Re: Flash, FreeBSD and Opera

2003-11-05 Thread Jud

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:08:39 -0500, "William O'Higgins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:19:07PM -0800, lists wrote:
> 
> >I just got Flash working on FreeBSD 4.8 RELEASE, so I hope this helps 
> >you with 5.1.
> >
> >First off, I'm running linux-opera from the ports. Here is the output 
> >from pkg_info | grep opera: linux-opera-7.11.20030515_2.
> >
> >Second, I installed the port for Flash, the output from pkg_inf | grep 
> >flash is: linux-flashplugin-6.0r79 The official Macromedia Flash Player 
> >for Linux Mozilla and
> >
> >I downloaded the flash port here: 
> >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux-flash&stype=all&release=4.9-STABLE%2Fi386
> >
> >Once the Flash player is installed, I went to my Opera plugins directory 
> >located at: /usr/X11R6/share/opera/plugins
> >
> >I then ran the following commands:
> >
> >ln -s /usr/local/lib/linux-flashplugin6/flashplayer.xpt
> >ln -s /usr/local/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so
> >
> >Then I started opera and all was happy.
> >
> I just did this, but I am unable to register the plugin in Opera.  I am
> using FreeBSD 4.8 and Opera 7.21.
> 
> I am not sure if this is a problem, but this is the output of pkg_info |
> grep opera:
> 
> linux-opera-6.12.20030305 A blazingly fast, full-featured,
> standards-compliant browse
> opera-6.12.20030305 A blazingly fast, full-featured, standards-compliant
> browse
> opera-7.21.20031013 A blazingly fast, full-featured, standards-compliant
> browse
> 
> I have set the synlinks in the plugins directory, and since that didn't
> work I also added /usr/local/lib/linux-flashplugin6/ to the plugin path,
> to no avail.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Native and Linux Opera behave differently with respect to plugins IME. 
That is, the former doesn't work with them, the latter does.  pkg_delete
your various Opera versions, then install linux-opera from ports.

Jud
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Re: DVD

2003-11-09 Thread Jud
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 01:05:20 -0800, William Dean DeVries  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Maybe some program is starting a sound daemon, like esd or  
something.  If you started gnome or kde or possible anything else this  
may be the case.  You should maybe use run 'ps aux' and see what is  
running when the sound doesn't work. If you have a sound daemon running  
it should be possible to make mplayer use it.
   You could try 'shutdown now'(it will quit all you programs) which  
will drop your system into single user mode after you mplayer's sound  
quits and then type 'exit'.  I never reboot unless I have to.  If the  
works after-wards its probably something using the sound device.  You  
really should't be using root for anything but maintenance(ie watching  
movie should probably be done as a user).

--James

Here is the output from dmesg on my DVD
acd0: DVD-ROM  at ata1-master PIO4
Using FreeBSD 4.8
When I play a DVD with mplayer (usually with these options)
mplayer -brightness 9 -autosync 30 -dvd 1 /dev/dvd
I can play the DVD without ANY problems what so ever. The problem is
this. Say I just booted into FreeBSD, did a startx, loged into root and
ran mplayer with those options. It will play fine and no sound problem.
After a couple hours or so (using those same commands usually) I can
still play the DVD but no sound. If I reboot *AFTER* the sound problem
then I get the sound back. There are no other applications running at
the same time to block the audio so I don't know what it could be. Other
than this small problem, DVD is working pretty good so far for me under
FreeBSD.
You may get better performance from your DVD player if you include the  
following line in /boot/loader.conf:

hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"

Try it and see.  If it causes a problem you can edit it out.

Jud
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Re: Windows XP

2003-11-12 Thread Jud
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:44:50 -0600, Henrik Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

On Tuesday 11 November 2003 15:34,
"Eric Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent a missive stating:
Hello.  I would like to learn to use FreeBSD.  I would also like to have
the ability to choose between either Win XP Pro and FreeBSD upon  
starting
up my system.  I do have 2 40GB hard drives, plus Partition Magic if I
need.  My plan at the moment is to simply have Win XP Pro on one hdd,  
and
FBSD on the other.

Ok what I would like to know is this:  should I install FreeBSD first?   
Or
Win XP first?  I am thinking I better not install FreeBSD first because  
I
doubt that WinXP's setup would recognize FreeBSD as a 2nd. O.S. on my
system when installing (thereby not providing the ability to choose an  
O.S.
on startup).

Any suggestions?  My hardware should all be compatible to use FreeBSD.
Yeah, install XP first and then stick BSD on there. The boot manager  
from BSD,
although not very elegant, will let you choose XP or BSD on startup. You  
can
setup XP's to boot another OS as well, but it's more difficult.

One OS per drive should work fine as well. Have fun.
One OS per drive is fine.  You can boot both OSs with FreeBSD's boot  
loader (if you do this, install the FreeBSD bootloader on *both* drives);  
you can boot both with XP's boot loader (it's one of the FAQs at FreeBSD's  
web site, though admittedly the language is not entirely clear to me  
regarding how to use XP's bootloader where FBSD and XP are on different  
drives); you can use Grub from the FreeBSD ports collection, a bit more  
involved but provides good learning experience about bootloaders; or you  
can go the easy, automagic route with the free GAG bootloader http://gag.sourceforge.net/>.

Jud
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Re: FreeBSD Essay.

2003-11-12 Thread Jud

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:40 +0100, "Alex de Kruijff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:01:36PM +, Lewis Thompson wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > 
> > I'm a first year CS student at Manchester and I've been given the task
> > of writing a 1,000 word essay on something computer-related.  It can be
> > pretty much anything I want (I think).  I've decided FreeBSD is
> > interesting, the OS I advocate and that I shall write about this.
> > 
> >   I am planning to write a brief history of the four BSDs, going way
> > back in time (probably a few words on Ritchie, etc.) but then
> > concentrate on FreeBSD.
> 
> My advise would be to pick one subject and stick with that. Don't go
> into the history in general if you for something detailed about FreeBSD
> and if you go for the hirstory don't write about something detailed.
> You'll proberbly find that you have lots to write about.
> 
> I have two subjects you may like:
> 1. The history starting from 1978 until now. Perhaps something about the
> feutere of BSD (dead), BSDi (could be dead), FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD.
> 2. FreeBSD 5 (History of FreeBSD 5, feutes, compersent betwain 4 and 5
> and 5 and linux. If you have space over one detailed subject.)
> 
> The history in it self should be larg enove and intersating on its own.
> You could start with the outcomming of Unix and go on to the univeristy
> of Berkley. Then go to the outcomming of FreeBSD, NetBSD and BSDi.
> Followed by the lawsute betain Unix and BSDi & BSD. Then OpenBSD came
> out in 1995. Recently Apple followed with Darwin (based on NetBSD and
> FreeBSD). As altenative there are two CD versions (NetBox and FreeBIE)
> and a small version (PicoBSD) wich are based on FreeBSD. Ending with a
> compersent betwain all versions.
> 
> >   I'm really asking if anybody can suggest any particularly interesting
> > topics that I can go away and research and then include in my essay.  I
> > guess since it's only a short essay I can't have /too/ much detail and I
> > didn't particularly want to try and explain something /very/ complicated
> > (although please suggest just the same ;).
> 
> Another subject would be the outcomming of FreeBSD 5. If you go this way
> skip the general history!! Only go for the relevent history for this
> version. Then coninue on the new and cool feutures of FreeBSD 5. Maybe
> talk about one or two in more detail. And a compersent betwain FreeBSD 4
> and 5.

For something sufficiently technical as well as a bit controversial, what
about comparing/contrasting the two roads from version 4 of FreeBSD -
version 5 vs. DragonflyBSD?

Jud
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Re: Dual Booting FreeBSD

2003-11-15 Thread Jud
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:46:27 -0500 (EST), Michael L. Squires  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

40 gigs.  Would it be easier to install FreeBSD on the unformatted  
partition
or the new hard drive for the purpose of dual booting with xp?  Also,  
does
anyone know how to set up a dual boot system or know of a good guide to  
doing
so?
I have one system which uses XOSL with separate disks (SCSI) for FreeBSD
5.1-CURRENT and XP, and another using the standard FBSD boot manager
where the primary disk is all XP and FreeBSD uses the first partition
of the secondary drive.
Both work fine.
Actually, your FreeBSD install can use both the new drive and the free  
space on the original drive, but if you'd rather have 40GB to use on  
something else, that's fine.

If you install FreeBSD (or at least the root partition) on the new drive  
and you use FreeBSD's bootloader, be sure to install the bootloader on  
*both* drives.

There are instructions regarding how to dual boot using the Windows  
bootloader in the FAQ at the FreeBSD web site.  I have always found the  
instructions for doing this with both OSs on one drive easier to  
understand than the instructions for two drives, but your experience may  
be different.

Other available free bootloaders include the abovementioned XOSL, Grub  
from the FreeBSD ports system, and the one I'm using now (after having  
tried all the above except XOSL), GAG, which is very easy and automagic.

Jud
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Re: New parts for new PC (need help - little knowledge of hardware)

2003-11-17 Thread Jud
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:01:08 -0600, Bryan Cassidy  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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I suck when it comes to hardware. I know so little about hardware. My
dad said he is gonna get me about $400.00 worth of computer parts for
Christmas/Birthday sence they are so close so I can start building a new
custom PC. I have already picked out the case I want. I found a Antec
PlusView1000AMG chassis I like for $80.00 on e-bay so that is the first
thing I have chosen to get. Next is to choose a mother board. I am
wanting a ASUS just because I hear alot of people talking about it on
the forums, irc etc and think I would be happy with it. One of the
things I am confused about it the onboard sound. I don't want onboard
sound. Or do I? I am using a Sound Blaster Live!/PCI card now and I
think I want to stick with a PCI sound card. If the motherboard from
asus has onboard sound can I use a PCI sound card? Is it best to use a
PCI sound card or onboard? I get confused when it comes with PCI sound
cards and onboard sound. What is really over all best when it comes to
performance and features that is supported in FreeBSD? So, I have a
Chassis picked out and *just* a brand name motherboard I want to buy.
Any sertain models you people would recommend on a Asus motherboard?
Remember, I know pretty much nothing about hardware, I have $400 to
spend, if the amount of the chassis ($80.00) plus the price of the
motherboard yall *may* recommend doesn't equal up to $400 could you give
some more recommendations on parts? Maybe video cards, power supply and
cooling? I was thinking about buying the TrueBlue 480 Watt PSU
480 Watt ATX12V Illuminated from antec. Good idea? Recommend something
else that I can get the same things from this power supply in another
one but cheaper? Sorry about the crazy questions but I know nothing
about hardware and I would like to get some *real* opinions on hardware
on FreeBSD. This system will most deffinately have FreeBSD installed. I
think I will always use FreeBSD as long as I own a computer. I'm pretty
sure I can get a case that's $80.00, a mother board around $100 or so, a
power supply, *maybe* a video card and a hard drive for around $400.
What else can you tell me to help out? I appreciate any responses I get.
He wants me to hurry up and tell him what I want so he can go on and
order it for me.
You can probably give yourself a bit of a crash course by looking at http://www.anandtech.com> and http://www.tomshardware.com>, then  
take a look through http://www.newegg.com> to see what you can get  
for your money.  Don't forget memory, for which you may want to look at  
http://www.crucial.com> as well as NewEgg.  PC Power and Cooling has  
high quality stuff, but they may be a bit over your budget.

Regarding motherboards and CPUs, AMDs are cheaper than Pentiums for  
equivalent performance, but AMDs run hotter, meaning the CPU fan must move  
more air, meaning more noise.

Though not the absolute best on price, in terms of quality service and  
excellent advice on putting together a system you could do a lot worse  
than talking to Todd at Envision Computer Solutions (http://www.envisioncs.net>).

Jud
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Re: Opera2

2003-11-18 Thread Jud
On 18 Nov 2003 12:59:39 -0500, Lowell Gilbert  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Valerian Galeru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

i have downloaded another version of opera and tried to install it with  
pkg_add File_name and got a error like this: couldnt find +Content.  
and other folders...??
It isn't a package, so pkg_add(1) doesn't know what to do with it.

Try an updated version of the port.
Pardon me for asking, but was your computer connected to the Internet when  
you tried to "make install" using the port?

Jud
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Re: Opera2

2003-11-18 Thread Jud
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:19:02 -0500, Jud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 18 Nov 2003 12:59:39 -0500, Lowell Gilbert  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Valerian Galeru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

i have downloaded another version of opera and tried to install it  
with pkg_add File_name and got a error like this: couldnt find  
+Content. and other folders...??
It isn't a package, so pkg_add(1) doesn't know what to do with it.

Try an updated version of the port.
Pardon me for asking, but was your computer connected to the Internet  
when you tried to "make install" using the port?
Sorry, never mind - my fault for not reading carefully.

Jud
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Re: New parts for new PC (need help - little knowledge of hardware)

2003-11-18 Thread Jud
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:58:23 -0800 (PST), Dan Strick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snip]
My video card choice was a compromise.  I wanted something new enough to
have hardware support for recent DirectX features, old enough to be well
supported by XFree86 and cheap enough to be justifiable.  The Radeon
9500/9700 families of cards are the newest for which XFree86 claims
substantial support and yet are long out of production and the ATi web
site even categorizes the 9500 as "discontinued".  The 9000/9500/9700
seem to have been replaced with the 9200/9600/9800.  The need for  
reliable
XFree86 support trumped other considerations because I spend virtually  
all
of my time running XFree86 on FreeBSD and very little time running
feature hungry whizbang graphics applications.
AFAIK XFree86 doesn't have 3D hardware acceleration support for the ATI
Radeon 9K cards.  I have a 9500 (modded to 9700 specs with Riva Tuner)
myself and don't miss the 3D support, but that's because I play games only
occasionally and use Windows for them.
Jud
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Re: New parts for new PC (need help - little knowledge of hardware)

2003-11-19 Thread Jud
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:58:05 -0600, Bryan Cassidy  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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I've put some parts together. This is what I've come up with. Please
tell me any recommendations on changes or anything with this system. It
will run on FreeBSD. Any comments what so ever is appreciated. Please
try to explain in detail when you go to tell me about changing something
or whatever so I can understand it and then I can learn it and remember.
[snip]

Most of this stuff is out of my league price-wise so I can't answer  
whether it'll work with FreeBSD or not, nor whether the motherboard  
supports non-ECC memory (it certainly ought to, but you need better  
information than a gut feeling on my part).  I'll just respond about the  
two areas where I feel semi-competent.

System Memory:
2 Crucial PC2100 512MB
Good solid choice.  There's faster stuff available, but I don't know what  
your mobo supports nor what the price/performance tradeoff is on faster  
memory.

[snip]
Power Supply
- From PC Power and Cooling (pcpowercooling.com)
Turbo-Cool 510 ATX
I notice the Deluxe model is on sale for $9 more than the "standard"  
510ATX (this is like calling a Porsche "standard").  If you haven't  
already, you may want to find out what the difference is and see if you  
want to pay the additional 9 bucks for it.  (An easy way to find out is to  
call them.)

You didn't mention cooling.  If the Antec doesn't have a couple of case  
fans (intake low in front, exhaust high in back), get a couple of the  
Silencer fans from PC Power and Cooling for that purpose.  Try the CPU  
cooling that comes with the AMDs.  If that isn't satisfactory, you may  
want to have a look at the low noise stuff from "Dr. Thermal" (yeah I  
know, not the best name), whose CPU heatsinks and fans have provided me by  
far the quietest, most reliable operation for good cooling levels.  See  
http://www.thermal-integration.com/> for information.  Also  
important is the fact that their stuff is very easily installed.  There  
are few feelings so sickening as jamming a screwdriver into a motherboard  
while trying to lock down a heat sink (I've done it), and too many heat  
sinks are set up specifically for this sort of locking.

Jud

Jud
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Re: FreeBSD beside WinXP

2003-11-20 Thread Jud
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:59:29 +0800, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I read somewhere before that there were partition or boot problems after  
installing 5.1 beside winXP. Has anyone been able to do this  
successfully? Is there something not obvious that I need to set/tweak  
while during sysinstall? This partition has seen several versions of  
Mandrake and Redhat (Fedora is a flap, btw, IMO), and they all do it  
automatically as if assuming that users DO install their OS beside some  
Windows. But I have grown tired of the linux fad/hype and just wanna try  
my favorite server OS on it to see how it does too on the desktop. But  
at the same time, I need my XP very much.

My 40G hardisk is currently partitioned like this..:  512MB Windows swap  
| 512MB Linux/Unix swap | 20G NTFS | 10G FAT32 | Rest = Linux/Unix

Thanks in advance =)

chael
Everything should work just fine.  Read the FAQ at the FreeBSD web site re  
dual booting with Win as well as extensive prior discussions in this list  
with detailed advice.  (You can search for the latter at http://freebsd.rambler.ru/>.)

Jud
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Re: FreeBSD beside WinXP

2003-11-20 Thread Jud
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:49:49 +0800, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks for all the replies. And yes, that's what my FAT32 is for... sort  
of
a mediator for the different OSes which also contains important files  
but no
directories for working applications.

Ok, let me get this in short. You basically recommend me to follow this
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER  
?
Or look at GAG (free graphical bootloader, automagic), Grub (in ports,  
very configurable, requires reading the documentation closely but will  
teach you a lot about bootloaders), use FreeBSD's own bootloader (not  
fancy, but it works), or one of the other solutions mentioned in the  
extensive mailing list discussions I mentioned you might want to  
search/read.  :)

Jud
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Re: booting freebsd and openbsd

2003-11-23 Thread Jud
On 23 Nov 2003 17:59:46 -0500, Lowell Gilbert  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Paulo Roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot
freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but
does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I have to set any extra
parameter?
Funny, I didn't think that should be a problem.
What partition type is OpenBSD creating?
Another possibility: If you have FreeBSD and OpenBSD on separate disks,  
the FreeBSD bootloader must be installed on both drives.

Jud
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Re: Modem

2003-11-23 Thread Jud
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:01:19 -0500, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

fbsd_user wrote:

Read the FBSD handbook.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.ht
Also, you might want to try kppp from the KDE project. It's a graphical
front end to Kernal PPP (pppd), and I find that it's much easier to use
than the CLI when I need to connect in a hurry on my laptop.
I think it's probably a good idea to get user ppp (FreeBSD Handbook)
working before switching to kppp though. That way you'll be able to
debug easier.
The best tutorial I've seen on this remains http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/14/FreeBSD_Basics.html>.  3 years  
ago as a newbie it was far easier for me to understand than the Handbook.   
One thing has changed in those 3 years: The user wanting to access the Net  
must be a member of the 'dialer' group.

HTH,

Jud

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Re: Boot manager clarification

2003-11-23 Thread Jud
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:49:21 -0800, Craig Caughlin  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi folks,
I have 2 hard disks, each on their own channel. I have XOSL installed as  
my
boot manager, in Drive 1, Partition 1. I have Windows 2000-Pro on Drive  
1,
Partition 2. I want to install FreeBSD 5.0 on Drive 2, but use XOSL to  
load
it.

Should I install FreeBSD using the "Standard" MBR option, or should I use
the "BootMgr" option? I *think* I would want to use the standard,  
because it
seems like the BootMgr option would install in the MBR of Disk 1 and NOT
Disk 2, thereby goofing up XOSL (which is what I'm trying to avoid!).
You think correctly.  :)

Jud
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Re: Modem

2003-11-23 Thread Jud
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:30:05 -0800, Allan Bowhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

On  0, Jud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:The best tutorial I've seen on this remains 
:http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/14/FreeBSD_Basics.html>.  3  
years
:ago as a newbie it was far easier for me to understand than the  
Handbook.
:One thing has changed in those 3 years: The user wanting to access the  
Net
:must be a member of the 'dialer' group.

Actually, the group is "network"
The article does note that membership in the 'network' group is  
necessary.  But membership in the 'dialer' group is *also* necessary (at  
least in 5.x - I assume from your message that it may not be necessary in  
4.x), and it wasn't AFAIK at the time the article was published.  (Or  
maybe that was because I was using 4.x at the time?  Oh well, maybe  
someone can enlighten me here)

IMHO, the best resource for user ppp is still the manpage. Probably
one of the best-written manpages there are.
I had a rough time with the man page myself.  The tutorial, instead of  
providing what may be an overwhelming number of possible options to a  
newbie, describes a very simple step-by-step procedure.

Jud

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Re: [FAQ pointer] Re: changing information in BootMgr

2003-12-05 Thread Jud
On 05 Dec 2003 17:56:31 -0500, Lowell Gilbert  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"charles pelletier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

How do you change the labelling info in the BootMgr so that the other
OS is no longer listed as "??"?
This is a FAQ.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#CHANGING-BOOTPROMPT
Free bootloaders with configurable boot menus include Grub in ports  
(/usr/ports/sysutils/grub), XOSL (which I haven't tried), and GAG, which  
was easy (automatic, actually) to set up to boot 5 OSs from a RAID0 array  
plus a 3rd hard drive.

Jud
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Re: i am a new comer totally.

2003-12-19 Thread Jud
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:59:30 +, é åæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

   dear freebsd experts:

   i am a new comer totally.

   i have duron 800 computer with 256m sdram, cdrom ,fdd 1.44, usb 1.1
   cdrom read and write, agp vga 600x800,
   8g   seagate medalist 8420 ide hard drive already 3g for dos fat32bit
   and 5g for free bsd which is my young brother taught me.
   also i have p3-733 cpu  with the same configuration as above.

   i have 4.8,4.9 also 5.1 bsd cdrom version.

   my question is

   -1- which version is the best for new comer ?
I think 4.9 would suit you well at this point.

   -2-someone would like to teach me one step by one step ?

   -3-how many documents or handbook should i or must i read ?
The Handbook is online and is an excellent step-by-step guide:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html>

After you have read the portions that are relevant to what you want to do,  
you may wish to ask specific questions on this list.

Good luck!  I hope you enjoy FreeBSD.

Jud
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Re: Help (Hdd Partitioning)

2003-12-22 Thread Jud

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:21:38 +, "SB"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> 
> Steve B.
> 
> 
> --
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "SB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 10:45 pm
> >Subject: Help
> >
> >
> >| Hi there,
> >| I'm trying to get onto
> >FreeBSD. I'm
> >| currently using Win98SE. I have a 300mhz Pentium II with
> >160mb ram and a
> >| 6.5gb hdd. I'd like to split up some of it for FreeBSD.
> >I've never
> >| partitioned an hdd before. I'm so lost and confused. I
> >don't know where
> >| to start. How do I go about partitioning my hdd please?

> Xpression wrote:
> 
> >So, what exactly do you want to do ??? Install a fresh copy
> >of FreeBSD or both OS ???

> I'd like to have FreeBSD and windows, as a safety-net, while I learn and 
> experiment with FreeBSD.
> 
>  From reading different opinions, it seems that it's a lot less hassle 
> to get a ready-boxed FreeBSD.

That's fine, you can run both OSs on one hard drive whether you burn your
own FreeBSD CDs or pay someone else for them.

Regarding partitioning, you may want to read the online documentation for
BootItNG at .  It's shareware, free
30-day trial, and about half the price of Partition Magic if you decide
to keep it.  It's easy enough to use and has good enough documentation
(better in both respects IMO than Partition Magic, probably the market
leader) that it is very unlikely you will screw up your Win installation.
 There is always that chance, however, so back up your valuable data.

Try to do some more general reading on partitioning (as applied to
multiple OSs) and on the installation of FreeBSD (the online Handbook at
the FreeBSD web site is an excellent resource for the latter) to get an
idea of what you are doing before attempting this.  In fact it is a good
idea to print out the section of the Handbook regarding installation
beforehand so you have it with you for reference.

Jud
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Re: Dual-boot does not work with GRUB

2003-12-22 Thread Jud
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:58:16 -0600, Tillman Hodgson  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 01:52:46AM +0100, Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
I've got the following error:

Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5
Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
Does GRUB have some problems with FreeBSD partition ?
I recently ran into the same problem - I found the solution in an
archived posting to the bug-grub@ mailing list (from Sergey Matveychuk
on Sep 25 2003, if you're interested).
Try this:

 rootnoverify (hd0,1)
 chainloader +1
Is your root partition UFS2?  GRUB does not understand UFS2 yet as far as  
I know, so you may need to chainload as in the above example.

Jud
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Re: Dual-boot does not work with GRUB

2003-12-24 Thread Jud
On 23 Dec 2003 20:24:34 +0100, Jaroslaw Nozderko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Jud, Tillman, Bill,

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:58:16 -0600, Tillman Hodgson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 01:52:46AM +0100, Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
>> I've got the following error:
>>
>> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5
>> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
>>
>> Does GRUB have some problems with FreeBSD partition ?
>
> I recently ran into the same problem - I found the solution in an
> archived posting to the bug-grub@ mailing list (from Sergey Matveychuk
> on Sep 25 2003, if you're interested).
>
> Try this:
>
>  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
>  chainloader +1
Is your root partition UFS2?  GRUB does not understand UFS2 yet as far  
as
I know, so you may need to chainload as in the above example.

Jud
Yes, it's UFS2, so probably that was a reason.
rootnoverify (hd0,1) fails:
Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format

Fortunately,

rootnoverify (hd0,2)
chainloader +1
finally works ! Slices are:

swap 1 GBad0s3b
/home1   1 GBad0s3d
/   28 GBad0s3a
Why 2, not 1 ? I'm a little bit confused.
Because (hd0,1) is only an example.  For your setup on ad0s3, (hd0,2) is  
correct (I think, or should it be (hd0,3)?).

Jud
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Re: Dual Boot WinXP + FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Jud
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:14:24 -0300, Julio Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Hello everyone
This is my first post here and I wanted to say that I looked for this  
info everywhere but didnÂt find thatÂs why IÂm making this simple  
question. IÂm right now using Win XP but till yesterday I used to run a  
dual boot system (RedHat 9/XP) but I decided to send RH to Hell and  
replace it to FreeBSD but when the instalation begun, I realized it  
couldnÂt read mu NTFS drives so I thought the instalation wouldnÂt work,  
then I ask you guys:

1. Can I have another dual boot on my machine with XP (NTFS) and FreeBSD?
2. Where can I read more about the process of instalation to keep my XP  
partition alive?

Thank You

 Julio Cesar
  MCP ID #3092980
  PGP KEY ID 0x7086BA80
  (81) 9139-0024
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Everywhere, apparently, other than the Frequently Asked Questions link on  
the home page of the FreeBSD web site.  :)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER>

You will also find many good answers to your question that have appeared  
in this mailing list if you search at http://freebsd.rambler.ru/>.

Jud
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Re: Dynamic DNS Updates

2003-12-27 Thread Jud
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 02:02:53 +0100 (CET), Cordula's Web  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you decide to use a provider like dyndns.org, you
can use the ipcheck port (http://ipcheck.sf.net) to
keep your IP address and hostname in sync.
Or use ddclient: /usr/ports/dns/ddclient
Works perfectly for me (with dyndns.org).
That makes two votes on both counts (ddclient and www.dyndns.org).

Jud

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Re: something wrong with"shutdown"

2004-01-01 Thread Jud
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:51:49 -0500, Dany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

On Friday,  2 January 2004 at  4:25:49 +0800, dc wrote:

 Versino 4.9whenever i use the command "shutdown"or "halt"to
shutdown the power,system display"type anykey to reboot"so computer
reboot~
Instead of typing a key on the keyboard when you see that message, if you  
wish to shut down, power off via the power button.  If you want to power  
off without having to use the power button, do as Dany suggests below and  
use 'shutdown -p now.'

Regarding rebooting into Windows rather than FreeBSD, please do as Greg  
asks and provide more information.

Jud

and i have to boot windows(i installed FREEBSD and
WINDOWS2000).
Why?


  Someone told me to configue the kernel.Add "device acpica"to
the kernel and make it ~I did so,nothing changed,porblem is still
there.HELP~!
It's almost impossible to guess what your problem is.  Obviously
shutdown works.  Did you install the boot selector?  Please:
1.  Shut down the machine (with shutdown, not halt).
2.  When you see "Press any key to reboot", turn the power off.
3.  Turn the power on.
4.  Describe *exactly* what happens.

to turn the power off automatically, you should use :  shutdown -p now
instead of the -h which gives you this message.

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Re: GEOM warning in dmesg

2011-04-06 Thread Jud
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:36:06 -0400, Michael J. Kearney  
 wrote:


I really don't think i have much control over what other people think  
lol .cn


Jamie Paul Griffin  wrote:


On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:24:29PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:

On Wednesday 06 Apr 2011 17:58:21 Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:

> i'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense at all. could you explain a
> solution more clearly please?

There's no problem. Maybe MS-DOS or Windows 95 would have problems with  
such a

layout, but modern operating systems don't.


i am sure you're right but i simply didn't understand what he was trying  
to say and i really only wanted to understand what the warnings meant.


Which is exactly what he's trying to avoid (you understanding what he's  
saying).  He's spamming you for some reason, with vague-sounding stuff  
interspersed with country abbreviations like jp (Japan), cn (Canada) - in  
other words, nonsense.


Back on topic, you can and should ignore the warnings.  They won't cause  
any problems, which certainly can't be said about you fiddling with your  
partitions.


Jud

--
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." -  
Douglas Adams

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No sound from S/PDIF Output of ESI Juli@ (Envy24HT) card?

2011-12-27 Thread Jud
I can't seem to get volume from the S/PDIF (digital coaxial) output of
my ESI Juli@ sound card.  Running a recent version of 8.2-STABLE.

Here's what appears to me to be the relevant part of dmesg (full dmesg
appended below):

pcm0:  port 0xec00-0xec1f,0xe880-0xe8ff irq
16 at device 0.0 on pci8
pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
pcm0: [ITHREAD]
pcm0: system configuration
  SubVendorID: 0x3031, SubDeviceID: 0x4553
  XIN2 Clock Source: 24.576MHz(96kHz*256)
  MPU-401 UART(s) #: 1
  ADC #: 1
  DAC #: 1
  Multi-track converter type: I2S(with volume, 192KHz support, 24bit
  resolution, ID#0x0)
  S/PDIF(IN/OUT): 1/1 ID# 0x00
  GPIO(mask/dir/state): 0x7fff9f/0x7fff9f/0x8016

/boot/loader.conf contains 

snd_envy24ht_load="YES"

The light on my digital-to-audio converter that is fed by the Juli@
coaxial connection is on, indicating it is receiving a signal.  The same
is true in Win 7 and Ubuntu 11.10, where I do get sound.  Mixer shows
vol, pcm and line all set to 100:100.

cat /dev/sndstat shows

FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64)
Installed devices:
pcm0:  (play/rec) default
pcm1:  (rec)

Would someone be kind enough to help me determine what I'm not doing
correctly or doing wrong?

Thanks,

Jud



$ dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Wed Nov 30 11:58:00 EST 2011
j...@jud.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950  @ 3.07GHz (4945.11-MHz
K8-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x106a5  Family = 6  Model = 1a 
  Stepping = 5
  
Features=0xbfebfbff
  
Features2=0x98e3bd
  AMD Features=0x28100800
  AMD Features2=0x1
  TSC: P-state invariant
real memory  = 12884901888 (12288 MB)
avail memory = 12353847296 (11781 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <092011 APIC1949>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID:  4
 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID:  5
 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: <092011 XSDT1949> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, bff0 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
cpu1:  on acpi0
cpu2:  on acpi0
cpu3:  on acpi0
cpu4:  on acpi0
cpu5:  on acpi0
cpu6:  on acpi0
cpu7:  on acpi0
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
atapci0:  port
0xac00-0xac07,0xa880-0xa883,0xa800-0xa807,0xa480-0xa483,0xa400-0xa40f
mem 0xf7eff800-0xf7ef irq 28 at device 0.0 on pci1
atapci0: [ITHREAD]
atapci0: AHCI v1.20 controller with 8 6Gbps ports, PM not supported
ata2:  on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3:  on atapci0
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ata4:  on atapci0
ata4: [ITHREAD]
ata5:  on atapci0
ata5: [ITHREAD]
ata6:  on atapci0
ata6: [ITHREAD]
ata7:  on atapci0
ata7: [ITHREAD]
ata8:  on atapci0
ata8: [ITHREAD]
ata9:  on atapci0
ata9: [ITHREAD]
pcib2:  at device 2.0 on pci0
pci2:  on pcib2
pci2:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib3:  at device 3.0 on pci0
pci3:  on pcib3
vgapci0:  port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem
0xf800-0xf9ff,0xd800-0xdfff,0xd400-0xd7ff irq 24
at device 0.0 on pci3
nvidia0:  on vgapci0
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
nvidia0: [ITHREAD]
pci3:  at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pcib4:  at device 7.0 on pci0
pci4:  on pcib4
pci0:  at device 20.0 (no driver
attached)
pci0:  at device 20.1 (no driver
attached)
pci0:  at device 20.2 (no driver
attached)
pci0:  at device 20.3 (no driver
attached)
em0:  port 0x9c00-0x9c1f mem
0xf7de-0xf7df,0xf7ddf000-0xf7dd irq 22 at device 25.0 on
pci0
em0: Using an MSI interrupt
em0: [FILTER]
em0: Ethernet address: 20:cf:30:54:35:d0
uhci0:  port 0x9480-0x949f
irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus0:  on uhci0
uhci1:  port 0x9800-0x981f
irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus1:  on uhci1
uhci2:  port 0x9880-0x989f
irq 19 at device 26.2 on pci0
uhci2: [ITHREAD]
uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus2:  on uhci2
ehci0:  mem
0xf7dde000-0xf7dde3ff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usbus3: EHCI version 1.0
usbus3:  on ehci0
pci0:  at device 27.0 (no driver attached)
pcib5:  irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci7:  on pcib5
pcib6:  irq 19 at device 2

Re: booting off 6.0 cdrom for Install

2005-12-30 Thread Jud
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:20:15 -0600, "Daniel Goldberg"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> I have created a "FreeBSD_Install" cdrom from the
> 6.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso download.
> When I boot from the cd I reach a 6-option Boot menu but do not get to
> the Install menu described in 2.3.1 of the Handbook.
>  
> Note: If I do try to boot, the boot process itself seems to fail with a
> "Cannot dump: no dump device defined" following a "Fatal trap 12 page
> fault while in kernel mode"- in case that illustrates anything, and
> that's boot attempts with or without APCI.

A dump device is a place to put information about problems so that you
can debug them.  It's not what's preventing you from getting to the
Install menu.  The kernel panic - "Fatal trap 12 page fault while in
kernel mode" - is what's doing that.  Re kernel panic, see generally
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_panic>.  I don't have the
technical proficiency to help you further re the panic - hopefully
someone else on the list might be able to do that.  I'll try to suggest
some possible workarounds, though:

1) See if the most recent -STABLE snapshot (obtained via FTP, probably
the same place you downloaded the 6.0-RELEASE iso from) likes your
laptop better than the release iso.

2) Check system hardware, particularly memory, for trouble.
 
> So the basic question is:
> Is the install process supposed to be as simple as: 
> A create a primary FAT32 partition
> B boot your machine from the FreeBSD_Install (DISK 1) cd 
> C follow the prompts through the install process 

Simpler than that, actually.  The availability of disk space that can be
made a primary partition is necessary, but FAT32 isn't.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.  Hope you get there.

Jud
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Re: Promise SATAII150 TX2plus ok for 6.0?

2006-02-04 Thread Jud

Nikolas Britton wrote:

On 2/1/06, Ville Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi,

being quite fed up with the crappy Sil3512 SATA-controller on my
mainboard (write_dma timeouts, and just when I thought 6.0-release fixed
it, "setfeatures set transfer mode semaphore timeout"-messages is
filling my screens), I'm looking after good replacements. Browsing the
web and the mailing list archives, Promise cards have been praised. I
could get my hands on a SATAII150 TX2plus, anyone having good/bad
experiences with such a card?




After I patched my FreeBSD 5.4 server with the ata-mkIII patches my
FastTrak TX2300 worked fine. Those patches are in FreeBSD 6 now. I'm
not sure if the RAID rebuild stuff is working yet in FreeBSD 6, I have
not updated that system yet, but you can always rebuild the array from
the BIOS.

The Bad:
This card does not play nice with other RAID controllers, esp. cards
from other companies. This card would hang my server at POST if I had
my HighPoint SATA-II RAID 5 card installed. Dealing with Promise's
tech support dude was bad, very bad. On the other hand when I spoke
with one of HighPoint's tech's (5pm on a Friday) he was both friendly
and competent, about 5 minutes in we had the problem with the Promise
card solved.
  
I've experienced the "setfeatures..." problem with the TX2300, with 2 
different FreeBSD versions: latest -CURRENT (after installing an updated 
kernel, when beginning installworld, "setfeatures..." messages repeat 
until a hard reboot), and an up-to-date -CURRENT userland with kernel 
from December 8th 2005.  (That setup worked until I got a system hang 
trying to run glxgears with an ATI R300 card.  Afterward, when bootup 
got to the point of fs checking, "setfeatures..." ad infinitum again.)  
So far, -CURRENT userland and kernel from December 8th are working OK, 
but I haven't done anything to unduly stress the system.


Jud
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Promise TX2200/2300 SATA RAID Controllers - New Driver/BIOS Problem

2006-03-07 Thread Jud
At the beginning of February, Promise released a new BIOS (version
2.5.0.3115) for the TX2300 and a new Windows driver (version 2.06.0.311)
for the TX2200/2300.  After installing the new BIOS and driver on my
TX2300, neither the BSDINSTALLER iso from early December nor a -CURRENT
installation iso from the end of January recognize my RAID-0 array; the
two drives are seen as ad4 and ad6 rather than ar0.  Prior to installing
the new BIOS and driver, the BSDINSTALLER iso did recognize the array as
ar0.

I'm attempting a reinstall because of an unfortunate concatenation of
two hardware problems.  I tried to run glxgears on my Radeon 9500
(R300), which caused the system to freeze.  After a hardware reset, I
ran into the kern/91408 bug.

I've backed up my Win system and plan to see tonight whether atacontrol
can create ar0 for me.  If not, then for the time being I will likely
reflash the BIOS and change the Win driver back to the older versions.

Jud
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RE: Ports upgrade policy

2006-03-14 Thread Jud
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:35:46 -0600, "Mike Loiterman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Erik Trulsson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> >>> Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
> >>> ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
> >>> updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
> >>> better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE? 
[snip]
> > Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.
> 
> Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

Considerations I can think of -

(1) Advantage of using -HEAD (-CURRENT): Updates to ports may include
security fixes.

(2) Disadvantage of using -HEAD (-CURRENT): It is possible, though
perhaps not likely, that an updated port would require something your
-RELEASE base system lacked.

Jud
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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!

2006-03-20 Thread Jud

Gayn Winters wrote:
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Benjamin Sher

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:21 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!


Dear friends:

I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the 
FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but 
after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect 
installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and 
rebooted, I got 
into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for 
Windows, one of 
FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I 
went into 
my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. 
That only 
caused my system to boot into Windows XP.


I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It 
said clearly 
that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I 
did not see 
any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while 
installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to 
guarantee that 
all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, 
I will see 
Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to 
select either 
FreeBSD or Windows?


I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually 
seeing FreeBSD 
for the first time.


Thank you so much in advance.

Benjamin


Always more than one way to skin a cat.  :-)

A rather easy way to do what you want without having to touch your 
Windows installation is to use the free GAG bootloader - http://gag.sourceforge.net/>.  The installation instructions seem pretty 
self-explanatory to me, but if you have any questions, feel free to 
ask.  It's what I've used for years to boot triple or quadruple OS 
systems, and I've never had a problem.


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Re: Using boot manager with FreeBSD and Windows

2006-03-21 Thread Jud

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:45:41 -0500, "Benjamin Sher"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Dear friends:
> 
> [Dell 8200]
> 
> First, my thanks to everyone who was kind enough to respond to my
> problem booting up to FreeBSD 6.
> 
> I did a complete, fresh install from the CD and made sure to also
> configure the FreeBSD boot manager for MBR. Everything should be working
> but I still can't boot up.
> 
> So, I downloaded and installed OSL2000 (latest version: Nov, 2005). It
> is supposed to boot up as many as 100 OS's. It lists all bootable media,
> including Windows and FreeBSD. Windows boots up perfectly but when I
> click on FreeBSD and try to boot it, I get a simple two word error
> message: "Read error".
> 
> I would appreciate your explanation and help. Is this a fatal error? How
> do I solve this problem?
> 
> Thank you so much.

Use the Dell or (preferably) the hard drive manufacturer's utility to
see if there are any problems with the hard drive on which you've
installed FreeBSD.

If the hard drive is OK, then re-configure FreeBSD with just a 'normal'
MBR (i.e., do *not* choose the FreeBSD boot manager - OSL2000 is now
doing that job - or to leave the MBR as is, since it's currently in an
unbootable state).  Now OSL2000 (or GAG, which will do the same job for
free rather than having to spend $25 at the end of the OSL2000 trial
period) should be able to boot FreeBSD.

Jud
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Re: Using boot manager with FreeBSD and Windows

2006-03-21 Thread Jud
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:41:15 +, "Danny Butroyd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Benjamin Sher wrote:
> > Dear Jud and friends:
> >
> > OK, I finally figured out how to make OSL2000 work. In scanning all
> > bootable partitions, it lists FreeBSD as two partitions: the 512 MB
> > /boot partition (name unknown) and the FreeBSD 37 GB partition. It
> > will not boot FreeBSD from the FreeBSD partition but, after changing
> > the mode to swap, it booted at last directly into FreeBSD with the
> > command "startx". I first saw during bootup that it said that I named
> > "localhost" (for Mindspring) incorrectly. At any way, I was pretty
> > disheartened when I finally arrived in FreeBSD. What I saw were two
> > rectangular screens (with green edges): the one on the left said:
> > "login", the one on the right said: "xterm". Plus a tiny clock in the
> > upper corner. I feel completely lost. Where is KDE? What command
> > should I use to get into KDE or to access the Internet?

Ah, OK - what we had here was a failure to communicate.  ;)  FreeBSD has
already booted at the point where you can enter commands.  What you are
asking about is how, after boot, to start the graphical user
interface/desktop/KDE.  The startx command is the correct one to use,
but as Danny notes below, while some Linux distros automagically create
the needed files for you, in FreeBSD you have to manually create the
file that the startx command works on.  What you apparently have done in
the absence of creating your own .xinitrc file is start the bare-bones
twm window manager rather than KDE.  At least you know that the X server
works.  :)

You create .xinitrc by starting a command line editor.  In FreeBSD the
'easy editor,' ee, comes with the base system.  Assuming you're in your
home directory (/usr/home/ben or something similar, perhaps?), as root
or the superuser you would enter 'ee .xinitrc' (no quotes) on the
command line; once in ee, you'd type in the 'exec startkde' text just as
Danny shows below; then save and exit.  (If you have a different command
line editor installed or are comfortable with vi, which also comes with
the base system, you can create the .xinitrc file with that.)

> You probably need to edit/create the .xinitrc file in your home
> directory.  I dont use kde but a quick search on google reveals that
> this may work in your case:-
> 
> exec startkde
> 
> Google is definately your friend for this kind of setup question :)

After creating the .xinitrc file, what does startx (as a normal user)
do?

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How to Cure Disk/Controller (RAID) Problem?

2004-06-21 Thread Jud
I have an ASUS A7V333 motherboard with a Promise 20276 onboard chip
controlling two IBM 120GXP 40GB hard drives in RAID-0 (striped)
configuration.

This configuration has operated flawlessly for years.  However, in the
past two weeks, twice when rebooting after the preliminary stages of a
DragonFlyBSD installation (disklabel -B -r -w ar0s3 auto), my RAID array
has come up broken.  Rather than a two-disk array, it shows in the
Promise FastTrack BIOS as two striped "arrays" consisting of one 40-gig
drive each.  After putting the array back together using the BIOS
(deleting the two single-disk arrays and re-creating the two-disk
RAID-0), the first two slices/partitions in the array (Win2K and a
static pagefile) look normal, but the third gives nonsensical status
information in both Windows and *BSD, e.g., a size of 1600+ GB.  Neither
Win nor *BSD will format this slice/partition.

IBM's Drive Fitness Test (DFT) shows both disks operating normally. 
When I tried to use DFT to write zeroes to both disks preparatory to
reinstalling from backup images, DFT responded that this utility was
only available with IBM drives.  (??)  (This is an older version of DFT.
 I have downloaded the most recent version, but haven't had time to try
it yet.)

I'd very much appreciate advice/recommendations regarding where the
problem might be and how to cure it.

Jud

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Re: Boot0 configuration question...

2004-06-25 Thread Jud

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:06:44 -0700, "Henrik W Lund"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Greetings, list!
> 
> I have a question regarding my boot0 setup. First, let me lay out my 
> harddrive topology:
> 
> Onboard Serial ATA RAID controller --> 1 HDD, 120 GB all in one slice. 
> FreeBSD resides on this.
> Onboard Secondary IDE controller --> 1 HDD, 20 GB all in one slice. Home 
> of WinXP.
> 
> On the 120 GB disk, I have installed the boot0 bootmanager. It provides 
> the following output on startup:
> 
> F1 FreeBSD
> F5 Drive 1
> 
> Now, the thing is, regardless of whether I press F1 or F5, it always 
> ends up booting the FreeBSD drive (the one on the Serial ATA 
> controller). What can I do to make it boot from the other one? Can I at 
> all? The alternatives are entering the BIOS and manually changing the 
> disks' boot priorities - which is kinda awkward - or installing a 
> different bootmanager. Both alternatives are not tempting, both because 
> I like simplicity, and because I don't know what complications (if any) 
> my running FreeBSD/amd64 might introduce into the installation of 
> another bootmanager.

The FreeBSD bootloader should be installed on *both* hard drives.  This
will boot WinXP, but will show it in the boot menu as "???"  If you
prefer a boot manager that allows you to easily enter the names of the
OSs you are booting, you might try GAG (http://gag.sourceforge.net/>).

Jud
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Re: Problems with UDMA harddisks

2004-07-02 Thread Jud

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:28:12 +0200 (CEST), "Peter Ulrich Kruppa"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi!
> 
> I hope somebody on this list has another good idea, I haven't 
> thought of yet:
> 
> I have a machine that came with two Excel Stor 40 GB ("Ganymede") 
> UDMA/100 harddisks.
> To install FreeBSD 4.10 I had to disable UDMA in the BIOS, 
> otherwise they wouldn't have booted (some complaint about ata0).
> Of course I wish to get UDMA working, since this is said to 
> improve perfomance significantly. 
> I checked if the UDMA cable is plugged into the correct places 
> for mainboard, master and slave - this is o.k. .
> 
> Are there any other things (bios settings, kernel modules, magic 
> chants,...) I could try?

I've been using DragonFly so I am not absolutely certain 4.10 still uses
/boot/loader.conf, but if it does, then inserting the following line in
that file may help:

hw.ata.ata_dma="1"

Jud
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One-Way Cable Modem and Firewall/Router?

2004-07-15 Thread Jud
After years of dialup-only service, I have moved to a new location and
gotten broadband access.  Only 'one-way' broadband access is available,
through an SB3100 Motorola/General Instrument cable modem that
communicates upstream via dialup, downstream via cable.

I was thinking I ought to set up a hardware firewall, and am considering
the Netgear WGT624 router (Atheros chipset) for this purpose.  I would
only be hooking up a single desktop computer, and wouldn't be needing
wireless connection just yet (though the router's capability in this
regard will be nice for future home networking).

Does anyone know of any problems (or tips) specifically concerning use
of a router/firewall with a one-way cable modem?

Jud
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Re: problem while installing FreeBSD

2004-07-18 Thread Jud
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:56:24 -0400 (EDT), Jerry McAllister  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've used Acronis Partition Expert on a ntfs(w2k3) partition and it
worked just fine.
Is that a new one on the market?  I haven't seen that one before.
Partition Magic has been the only one readily available off the
shelf in this area.  Others have to be mail-ordered.  It handled
NTFS fine for me, though that was for Win2k.  If it is NTFS and
it is from the boot floppies, I don't see why being win2k3 would
matter, but I avoid Microsloth stuff as much as possible so don't
know any of the details there.
I tried Acronis a year or two ago, and it seemed to work OK, but it  
trashed my setup when I uninstalled it.  Could well have been user error,  
but it's the only one of a number of such products (P. Magic, Acronis, and  
my favorite, BootItNG) with which I've ever had such a problem.

Jud
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

2004-07-26 Thread Jud

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT), "DK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD v4.10
> 
> I would like to install a basic FAST Windows 2000 like Window Manager
> that "ONLY" has:
> - Basic FAST GUI
> - MS Notepad like Editor
> - MS Windows Explorer like File Manager
> 
> I am setting this up as a test web server with Apache etc...
> 
> I want very BASIC Windows like GUI with a GUI Text Editor(NOT VI, more
> like Notepad) to edit
> configuration files etc AND a Windows Explorer like File Manager to move
> files easily around &
> from the CD(ie. NOT command line stuff!)
> 
> -
> My System:
> Pentium 200Mhz
> 128MB SDRAM
> 16MB PCI Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT
> 10 GIG HD
> -
> 
> I have Windows 2000 installed on the Primary Boot partition & that runs
> VERY fast
> (compared to FreeBSD + KDE or GNOME)
> 
> 
> Any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated :))

What you want is attainable, but not in the form you're asking for. 
Linux distros aimed at the former Win user like Mandrake, RedHat/Fedora,
etc., have obscured what was once a clear divide between the Win
(all-in-one) and *nix (an application for each task) way of doing
things.  Packages that include window managers, file managers and
editors are pretty well restricted to the two big "desktop
environments," GNOME and KDE.  However, there is a different and fairly
easy way to attack the problem, using individual pieces that together
will do what you want.

The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.  It
includes a window manager and a file manager, is fairly easy to use, and
is much lighter on resources than GNOME or KDE.  That leaves editors. 
Preferences among editors can be the stuff of flamewars, but I'll don my
asbestos suit and say that nedit seems to me to be fairly lightweight
and easy to use.

If you want to assemble your "package" from 3 pieces rather than 2, then
some choices you might consider are:

Window Managers -

- Blackbox/Fluxbox/Openbox: Blackbox and variants, minimalist but
adequate, lightning-fast and easy enough to use if you can right-click.

- Icewm: A bit less minimalistic than the -boxes, still fast.  I found
configuring icewm to my liking a bit more difficult than it was with the
-boxes.

File Managers -

- Rox-filer: Nice, fairly intuitive, simple lightweight GUI file
manager.

Re: editors, I've already mentioned nedit.

Also - I know you didn't ask, but if you want to use a browser, Opera is
small, fast and works very nicely.

I'm sure others will have various suggestions in all these categories.

Jud
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Re: Whats the fastest Windows 2000 like Window Manager ??

2004-07-26 Thread Jud

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:28:16 +0200, "Mark Weinem"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Jud wrote:
> 
> > The "leanest" desktop environment for Linux/Unix/FreeBSD is XFCE4.
> 
> I don't think so; look here:
> 
>   http://www.xwinman.org/otherdesktops.html

Oops, right you are.  My fault for thinking of a bunch of qualifiers
(nice-looking, functional, easily available in ports, that I am familiar
with) and failing to include any of these qualifiers in what I wrote.

Thanks for bringing up the xwinman site in this thread - it's a nice
resource that I used extensively as a newbie.

Jud
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Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2004-12-25 Thread Jud
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy
"here is what CSS can do" mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the
commit mentioned above - it's at
http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all
the images load - this is on a slow link - and be aware that it doesn't
work properly in IE for reasons that DES mentioned elsewhere).
Hey, that's rather cute (in Linux-Opera).  Looking forward to further  
developments.

Re fonts, the Bitstream Vera set is very nice.  It's available as a port -  
suppose there's no pressing reason to include it in the base (it's  
reasonably small)?

Jud
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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Jud
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:58:03 -0800, Jay O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times

You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations,  
not
upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself
installing ports you don't want.

Thanks, I wasn't sure about that.  I saw an example that used -N
and followed it.  I'm not clear on what -N really does, but for
now I just won't use it!
While the manual (man) pages aren't always crystal clear, the one for  
portupgrade is actually pretty good at explaining what all those letter  
options are for.  Just type at the prompt:

$ man portupgrade
You'll have a much better idea of what the options do and which ones you  
want to use for a given situation.

Jud
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Re: Dual boot WinXP and FreeBSD 5.3

2004-12-27 Thread Jud
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:44:28 -0700, Tom Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello list.  I wish to put FreeBSD 5.3 on a new hard drive and have it
dual boot with the existing Windows XP system (separate HD).  Can I just
simply go through the FreeBSD install and have it install the FreeBSD
boot manager/loader on the XP drive?  I can't risk doing any damage to
the XP system as it has a thermal analyzer program on it that won't run
on FreeBSD (otherwise I would have no use for XP at all).  I would like
to know if there are any "gotchas" or anything that could be a problem.
I would really like to hear comments from anyone who has set up such a
system.
You can use the FreeBSD bootloader to boot both OSs (I believe you must  
install it on both drives).  Another nice (and easy) free  
bootloader/manager that I use to boot Win2K, FreeBSD, DragonFly and the  
occasional Linux is GAG - http://gag.sourceforge.net/>.

This thermal analyzer program has no counterpart/substitute in FreeBSD?
Jud
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Re: Dual boot WinXP and FreeBSD 5.3

2004-12-28 Thread Jud
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:12:33 -0700, Tom Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And here is the link:
http://www.crtech.com/sinda.html
I don't see anything in ports.  Googling turned up some FEA stuff with  
what appeared to be fairly nice CAD backends that work on Linux and  
(occasionally) Unix, a couple with (at least advertised) heat and fluid  
transfer analysis capabilities, but (1) getting these to run on FreeBSD  
might involve custom work, and (2) FEA with heat/fluid transfer analysis  
and CAD backend still doesn't necessarily exactly equal what you need.

Jud
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Re: FBSD boot loader?

2005-01-13 Thread Jud
On 13 Jan 2005 09:02:42 -, John Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot
PC system using the FBSD boot loader?
I presume there is, but I couldn't find it in the handbook. Maybe I
missed it.
Somewhere between 1997 and 1999 this stopped being a problem for FreeBSD,  
which will boot from anywhere the BIOS allows it to.  See http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-4.html>.

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Re: dovecot is broken in ports

2005-03-15 Thread Jud
Madhusudan Singh wrote:
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:08, Jim Trigg wrote:
On Mon, March 14, 2005 11:43 pm, Madhusudan Singh said:
Hi
Just want to report that dovecot seems to be broken :
===>   Returning to build of dovecot-0.99.14
===>   dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: sasl2.2 - found
===>   dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found
===>   dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
[snip]

install: /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap/imap: No
such
file or directory
*** Error code 71
It looks to me like the problem must be in the ldap integration; I just
upgraded my copy last night with no problems, and do use sasl but not
ldap.
Jim

Thanks for your response.
However, any attempt to clean it, remove gnutls (pkg_delete) and install it
again fails with :
===>  dovecot-0.99.14 Currently incompatible with security/gnutls.
I do not have gnutls installed now (just removed it). Why should I get this
message (even after make clean and make distclean) ?
# make config
will allow you to redo your config choices and select SSL rather than 
GNUTLS, support for which is broken in Dovecot itself ATM, thus in the 
port also.

Jud
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Re: how to set up a dual boot system

2005-02-13 Thread Jud
Marty Landman wrote:
At 06:08 PM 2/13/2005, Roland Smith wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 05:40:13PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
> I have a box with 3 ide's
>
> primary master - 4 gb, win 98 currently installed @ 150 mb in size
>
> primary slave - 4 gb, empty
>
> secondary slave - 6 gb, empty


You can install FreeBSD on any harddisk. If you want dual-boot, you'll
need to install a boot manager.

Ok, I understand how to do that much but wasn't sure it could work that 
way.

Usually it's best to install Windows first, because it will overwrite
the master boot record anyway.

Cool, I guessed right (eventually).
If you want to install FreeBSD on the first drive, you have to make room
for it.

Need some enlightenment here.
He's just saying you need to make room if you already have another OS 
where you want to install FreeBSD.  In your case, do you have a 150MB 
partition on your first disk with Win98 installed there, or is the full 
4GB disk devoted to Win98, of which 150MB are currently used?  Sounds 
like the latter, in which case you might want to shrink the Win 
partition, though FreeBSD and all the apps you might want can almost 
certainly live quite happily in 10GB.  I haven't used parted.  I have 
used BootItNG, which has a free 30-day trial, and which I find to be 
exceptionally easy to use and well documented.  Despite the name, it 
does resize and move Win partitions as well as function as a bootloader. 
 I have used it predominantly for the former, and to make compressed 
images of my Win installation for backups.  I prefer GAG for the 
bootloader function.  It's free, and, like BootItNG, is very easy to use.

I think the standard for Windows is to take the entire disk

The entire partition afaik. Therefore right now in fbsd terms I have
ads0 - 4 gb
ads1 - 4 gb
ads2 - 6 gb
Actually, you have ad0 4GB, ad1 4GB and ad2 6GB.  "ad" is an IDE drive 
in FreeBSD.  "s" is "slice," close to synonymous with a Win "partition." 
 If my assumption is correct that the entire first drive is devoted to 
Windows, then both ad0 (the drive) and ad0s1 (first and only slice on 
the first drive) are around 4GB.

and to go right into the fbsd install would have to give all of ads0 to 
windows, which I don't want to do.

Now, I could reformat the first ide with windows' fdisk... say I did 
this and created two partitions of .5 & 3.5 gb respectively. They'd be 
windows partitions so that wouldn't necessarily work, or would it? Doing 
this I'd have to reinstall windows after.

In that case, would fbsd see
ads0 - .5 gb
ads1 - 3.5 gb
ads2 - 4 gb
ads3 - 6 gb
It would see ad0s1 (the first slice on drive ad0) as .5GB, ad0s2 as 
3.5GB, ad1 as 4GB and ad2 as 6GB.  If you do shrink your Win 
installation, you might give it around 1GB, just in order to be quite 
sure that you wouldn't have to play around with resizing partitions more 
than once, but it's your call.

Jud
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Re: Opera7 won't install from ports collection

2004-01-06 Thread Jud

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:37:58 -0800 (PST), "Dino Vliet"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> How to get cvsup to get past my proxy-server?
> 
> 
> --- Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --On Tuesday, January 06, 2004 07:40:31 -0800 Dino
> > Vliet 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I want to install Opera onto my freebsd version
> > 4.9
> > > system and in the /usr/ports/www/opera direcory I
> > > issue a "make install clean"
> > >
> > > I get the following error (see below).
> > > Becausse i think my port is looking for
> > > opera-7.20-20030919 while the ftp servers are
> > offering
> > > opera-7.23-20031119 or something like that.
> > > What can I do about it?
> > >
> > > 1) get the old source (but from where)
> > > 2) use the new one and rename it to 20030919..but
> > I
> > > think that will go wrong
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with this because I can't
> > browse
> > > the net!!
> > update your ports collection using CVSup.
> > 
> > LER
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===>
> > > **
> > > ===> NOTE: The native version of Opera can not be
> > > ===> installed at the same time as linux-opera. If
> > you
> > > ===> already have www/linux-opera installed, we
> > > ===> recommend you press Ctrl-C now and deinstall
> > it.
> > > ===>
> > > **
> > >>>
> > >
> > opera-7.20-20030919.1-static-qt.i386.freebsd.tar.bz2
> > > doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
> > >>> Attempting to fetch from
> > >
> >
> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/7.20-Beta-12/intel-freebsd/.
> > >>> Attempting to fetch from
> > >
> > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
> > >>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
> > >>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try
> > > again.
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >
> > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/opera.

If you can't ftp or cvsup with the proxy server, I'd suggest using
another PC to download an updated ports collection, then the files for
Opera and dependencies (these aren't terribly large, so it won't take
very long even on a slow connection) and burning these to a CD.  You can
then use these to update your system that is behind the proxy server and
build Opera.

Jud
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Re: Opera7 won't install from ports collection

2004-01-06 Thread Jud
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:42:25 -0800 (PST), Dino Vliet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

But I installed freebsd through the http proxy server
and that went fine.
I can install all other packages just fine because
I've set the http_proxy environment variable to our
proxy server and everything works fine. Only the cvsup
won't work.
I'm now installing mozilla-firebird:-(

--- Jud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:37:58 -0800 (PST), "Dino
Vliet"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> How to get cvsup to get past my proxy-server?
>
>
> --- Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --On Tuesday, January 06, 2004 07:40:31 -0800
Dino
> > Vliet
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I want to install Opera onto my freebsd
version
> > 4.9
> > > system and in the /usr/ports/www/opera
direcory I
> > > issue a "make install clean"
> > >
> > > I get the following error (see below).
> > > Becausse i think my port is looking for
> > > opera-7.20-20030919 while the ftp servers are
> > offering
> > > opera-7.23-20031119 or something like that.
> > > What can I do about it?
> > >
> > > 1) get the old source (but from where)
> > > 2) use the new one and rename it to
20030919..but
> > I
> > > think that will go wrong
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with this because I can't
> > browse
> > > the net!!
> > update your ports collection using CVSup.
> >
> > LER
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===>
> > >
**
> > > ===> NOTE: The native version of Opera can not
be
> > > ===> installed at the same time as
linux-opera. If
> > you
> > > ===> already have www/linux-opera installed,
we
> > > ===> recommend you press Ctrl-C now and
deinstall
> > it.
> > > ===>
> > >
**
> > >>>
> > >
> >
opera-7.20-20030919.1-static-qt.i386.freebsd.tar.bz2
> > > doesn't seem to exist in
/usr/ports/distfiles/.
> > >>> Attempting to fetch from
> > >
> >
>
http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/7.20-Beta-12/intel-freebsd/.
> > >>> Attempting to fetch from
> > >
> >
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
> > >>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve
this
> > >>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and
try
> > > again.
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >
> > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/opera.
If you can't ftp or cvsup with the proxy server, I'd
suggest using
another PC to download an updated ports collection,
then the files for
Opera and dependencies (these aren't terribly large,
so it won't take
very long even on a slow connection) and burning
these to a CD.  You can
then use these to update your system that is behind
the proxy server and
build Opera.
If you do want to update ports at some point and have FTP access you can  
download the full ports tarball from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports-stable/ports.tar.gz>.

Jud
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Re: choice of boot manager

2004-01-14 Thread Jud
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:09:04 +, Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

not know.  Any information about positive or negative experiences with  
any
of these programs in a multiple operating system configuration would be
appreciated.
This isn't on your list, but I tried using the romantically named "gag"  
graphical bootloader

http://gag.sourceforge.net/

after a few probs with an OpenBSD/W98 installation, and found it  
extremely good. It's what I use for customers' dual boot machines now  
because it's quick to install, easy to configure, reliable and pretty.
GAG is more automagic than the others you've named, and I think it is a  
good choice.  Ranish shouldn't be used unless you know a *lot* about  
partitioning.  Otherwise it's darned easy to mess things up.  GRUB is  
worthwhile - a good learning experience precisely because it is not  
automagic.  FreeBSD's BootEasy and the NT bootloader both work, though you  
have to learn how to configure the NT loader, and BootEasy is bare-bones.

I currently use GAG with no problems at all to boot -STABLE, -CURRENT,  
Slackware Linux, Windows 2000 and Windows 98 on a system with a RAID-0  
array and a third hard drive.  It finds all the OSs itself; all you have  
to do is assign a number to each.  (To boot Linux, you must install Lilo  
or Grub to the kernel partition.)  Hit a number on the keyboard when GAG's  
screen comes up, and the corresponding OS boots.  Easy as that.

Jud
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Re: macromedia plugin question

2004-01-26 Thread Jud
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:22:38 -0800, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 03:19:34PM -0500, Guillaume Paquet wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
>
>Just wondering...  Is anybody working on a reverse-engineered
>(100% clean) version of all this macromedia stuff?  ...
www/linuxpluginwrapper works with linux flash 6 and acrobat reader 5.

	I'm thinking of ports that work with native BSD suites.
Does linuxpluginwrapper work with FBSD 5.x?

Jud
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Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP

2004-01-31 Thread Jud
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:09:49 -0600, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 08:48, Mark Phillips wrote:


[... snip ...]
Hi Greg,

I've just rebooted back into SUSE from FreeBSD. I use Grub to boot them
both, and Win2k (for how often it gets used, I might as well dump it  
;-))

I can safely say even with UFS2 on 5.2, I can boot with
There is no issue booting kernels on a UFS2 with GRUB. The issue is that
GRUB needs to be installed somewhere. There is more to GRUB than the 512
bytes on the MBR. It needs to read config files off of a filesystem.
Where are your config files? are they on a UFS2 filesystem? Or are they
on your ext2 file systems?
If you have have managed to get a GRUB to read it's config files off of
UFS2, let me know, and I will research that area. AFAIK, grub can not
read it's config files off of UFS2 filesystem.
BootIt, which I used for a long time, works quite nicely and  
automagically; so does GAG, and GAG is

- not Windows-dependent, for those who care about such things

- free as in beer *and* speech, for those who care about such things  :)

It also works great - I'm running 5 OSs (including -CURRENT on UFS2) on a  
3-drive system (2 in RAID-0, one standalone), and GAG has never had the  
slightest trouble.

http://gag.sourceforge.net/>

Enjoy.

Jud
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Re: Problem booting WinXP from second drive

2004-02-02 Thread Jud
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:36:27 -0800, Relayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have a machine with FreeBSD 4.2 running on one drive.  I wanted to try  
dual booting and mucking about with wine, so I decided to install WinXP  
as well.  To avoid messing up my primary drive, I thought I would be  
able to accomplish the process in the following way:

1.  disconnect primary drive
2.  connect second drive (so it looks like the only one in the PC) and  
install WinXP on it
3.  verify that WinXP boots off this drive
4.  install FreeBSD boot loader on this drive
5.  verify that WinXP boots using FreeBSD boot loader

All works as expected to this point.

Then I hook up the primary drive again and reboot.  I see the following  
at boot time:

F1: FreeBSD
F2: FreeBSD
F5: Drive 1
I hit F5.  Then I see

F1: DOS
F5: Drive 0
When I hit F1, I expect WinXP to boot.  But nothing happens.  The  
machine just sits there.  I have scanned a lot of material in the  
Handbook and on google today and yesterday, but I cannot figure out what  
I did wrong.  Does anybody have any ideas that don't involve using grub  
or gag or something else?
The sleight-of-hand with the drives is unnecessary.  :)  Let Windows stay  
on the first drive where it wants to be.  FreeBSD is happy on the second  
drive.  The FreeBSD boot loader must be installed on *both* drives.

The loader will call your XP drive "???" if it's formatted using NTFS.  It  
will boot XP just fine, it's just that there are several OSs that have  
filesystems resembling NTFS (e.g., OS/2 and QNX), and the FreeBSD  
bootloader doesn't have the extra space used by fancier bootloaders to  
store multiple user-selectable names.

Jud
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Re: Re[2]: Problems with GRUB

2004-02-09 Thread Jud

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:43:06 +0200, "Robert Golovniov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On Monday, February 9, 2004, 4:15:35 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> 
> LG> Not installing from the ports system, for one thing...
> 
> That  was  the  first  thing  I tried to do, Lowell. :-) Did not work,
> although I dont remember what were the error messages.

Hello, Robert.  Try this:

http://freebsd.rambler.ru/srch?words=grub+ufs2>

HTH,

Jud
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Re: What OS should I use?

2004-02-09 Thread Jud

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:47:50 +0100, "Peter Schuller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[snip]
> > I also think there may be another issue I haven't diagnosed yet. I tried a
> > version of KNOPPIX WFTL edition from a book (Moving to Linux) but it
> > wouldn't load on my machine. It asked me to insert another disk but I
> > didn't have one (I got the book from the library). It did load on friends
> > PC so the disk was good though it ran to slow from the CD ROM to know if
> > I'd want Linux. I do know that that the regular KNOPPIX comes with two
> 
> Knoppix is no indication on the speed of Linux - and the same goes for
> any 
> other livecd system. Performance is greatly hampered by the slow seeking
> and 
> reading of the CD. Especially given the (by today's standards) low amount
> of 
> RAM we are talking about.

KNOPPIX and other operating systems in livecd form use your RAM as
something like a hard drive.  Little RAM = low capacity hard drive, maybe
too low for KNOPPIX to load everything it needed to run on your machine.

Jud
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Re: FDISK Can Not Find FreeBSD Drive

2004-02-09 Thread Jud
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 14:55:41 +, Peter Risdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

[snip]
No, Windows can't understand the filesystem there so it treats the drive  
as though there were no filesystem on it. It's not anything FreeBSD is  
doing. It's a lack of support in Windows for common filesystems.

and how would I go about FDISKing the drive in the future should I  
desire.
Don't. FreeBSD does not need you to run an equivalent of FDISK. As  
mentioned above, there is something called fdisk in FreeBSD and you'd  
should avoid it until you understand the issues better.
FreeBSD, OTOH, can see your WinME disk.  When you've learned what FreeBSD  
calls your disks, try the following as root or superuser, assuming you  
have an empty directory called /mnt:

# mount_msdosfs [name of WinME location, perhaps /dev/ad0s1] /mnt

# ls /mnt

When you're done:

# umount /mnt

For more info, as root, superuser, or regular user:

$ man mount

FreeBSD can not only read your WinME disk, it can write to it, so be  
careful not to make unintentional changes.

Jud
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Re: CPU heat monitor

2004-02-11 Thread Jud
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:48:55 -0600, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm looking for a small applet that monitors the CPU heat. I did a fast  
search
of the ports and really didn't find much based on descriptions - Is there
something like that that will run under X?
xmbmon

Jud
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Re: CVSup question, which tag for 4.9-RELEASE?

2004-02-12 Thread Jud

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:57:59 -0500, "Bob Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I am running a few boxes(n) on 4.9-RELEASE and am wondering about
> updating the ports and source. Using CVSup, should I tag src with
> RELENG_4, or RELENG_4_9? And what if any are the differences, that
> are not already noted in the handbook? Up to this point, I have not
> updated the system since install
> 
> I think I have a rather good grasp of the topic, but there is a little
> confusion on my part. I am thinking if I read correctly, using RELENG_4
> will update to the latest in the 4.x branch and I'll be at 4.9-Current,
> no? 

No.  No such thing as "4.9-CURRENT."  RELENG_4 will update to 4-STABLE,
which means it includes whatever updates have been made to -STABLE since
the 4.9-RELEASE snapshot (4.x-RELEASE being a snapshot of 4-STABLE).

> And RELENG_4_9 will be only updates to the 4.9 branch?

4.9 isn't a branch itself, it's a snapshot of the -STABLE branch. 
RELENG_4_9 contains only critical updates from the 4.9-RELEASE snapshot,
primarily if not exclusively security updates.

Jud
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Re: Cvsup

2004-02-12 Thread Jud

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:08:30 -0600, "Joe Stuart"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I'm running freebsd 4.8 and trying to use cvsup to update my ports tree.
> My supfile contains.
> 
> *default tag=RELENG_4_8
> *default host=cvsup9.freebsd.org
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
> 
> ports-all
> 
> But when I run it it deleted about %90 of my ports.  
> Any help is appreciated.

Read your ports-supfile where it tells you that this is what will happen
if you use the wrong "tag=" entry (it's the section that starts with
"WARNING!..." so you'll be sure not to miss it;), and tells you the
*only* correct tag to use.

Jud
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Re: Andy Magana

2004-02-13 Thread Jud

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 04:12:10 -0800 (PST), "Andreas Magana"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I have recently installed BSD. My card is a Visiontek Xtasy Radeon 128MB
> AGP card. Can you reply with some recommendations because it is installed
> but I don't sse anything for my cardl.

I assume that the "it" that "is installed" is XFree86?  If so, choose the
generic Radeon driver when configuring XFree86.

You don't say which version of FreeBSD you have installed.  The 5.x
kernel config includes "device agp," but I am not sure if 4.x does.  If
"device agp" isn't already in your kernel config you may want to
recompile it with that device added (or kldload it as a module - I
imagine that's possible, though I haven't done it myself).

Jud
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Re: I need help getting a desktop working.

2003-09-13 Thread Jud
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:31:19 -0400, Bob Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:49:51PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Freebsd,

   I have installed freebsd 4.4 (the ones that came with the manual.) I
Which manual is that? There's a paper version of the handbook, but that
doesn't come with a CD. I know that "FreeBSD Unleashed" comes with a
copy of 4.4, but that is not "the manual".
got it all installed correctly but when i log in freebsd it leaves me
at a dos like screen with a $. I want to know how to get a desktop
working (the quickest way.) Thank you for your time.
If you haven't installed X-windows, install it. If you don't know how
to install it, su to root (type "su" at the $ prompt, and enter the root
password), and type "/stand/sysinstall". Follow the instructions. By
default, X-windows is installed with the twm window manager. At the "$"
prompt, type "startx".  That's the quickest route to a working desktop.
- though with twm, that'll be a *barely* working desktop.  :)  You may 
want to install a window manager that's a bit more intuitive - Windowmaker 
might be a good one to start off with.  A good tutorial on installing a 
window manager can be found here: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/21/FreeBSD_Basics.html>

Jud
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Re: yet another newbie ppp/modem question

2003-09-13 Thread Jud
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:14:45 -0400, fbsd_user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

If your modem is external, maybe you have com1 & com2 disabled in
the PC bio's.  If PCI modem them and you are not using com1,2 ports
then you should disable there bio's so modem can use them.  One
other thing FBSD does not work with winmodems, those cheap modems
manufactured just for MS/Windows market.  You can use 'TIP' console
command to talk directly to modem.  If PCI modem check
/var/run/dmesg.log to see if FBSD found your modem.
Post more info on what you have done to debug, describe your modem
type.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: yet another newbie ppp/modem question
I'm having some trouble getting my modem up and running on
FreeBSD 4.8. A search through the mailing list archives shows
that many of the problems I've been wrestling with seem to have
cropped up before, yet I  haven't been able to follow any of the
discussion to a workable answer.
My modem is sitting on cuaa2 and I needed to re-compile my kernel
to recognize that port. I did this and everything went fine,
although I am getting the dreaded "sio5: configured irq 2 not in
bitmap of probed irqs 0" error which I haven't found a solution
for in any documentation or discussion.
[snip]

Have a look at this tutorial: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/14/FreeBSD_Basics.html>  Since the 
article was written, an additional requirement has been added in order to 
connect to the Internet using dialup: the dialup user must be added to the 
"dialer" group.

Jud
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Re: trouble with kernel

2003-09-15 Thread Jud
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:27:28 -0500, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf && ee GENERIC
now just add the device like so
device  pcm
then Esc and save
then cd /usr/src/ && make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
after its done building:
make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
now shutdown -r now

Hope this helps
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: trouble with kernel
if i am trying to add my sound card device, and add the line device pcm
into
kernel do i have to recompile it to make it work and if so how do i
recompile?
Rather than editing GENERIC, you may want to copy GENERIC and rename the 
copy (KERN[DATE] or KERNEL[DATE] are possibilities; I'm sure you can think 
of more), then edit, build and install the renamed version.  Though 
problems are very unlikely to occur just from adding "device pcm," if at 
some point in the future an edited kernel doesn't build or install 
correctly, you then have the unchanged GENERIC to fall back on.

Jud
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Re: Installing FreeBSD 5.1 - Boot manager doesnt install itself

2003-09-15 Thread Jud
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:40:19 -0700, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have two disks on my machine - the first has WinNT while the second 
had linux. I used Lilo
to select which OS I wanted to boot.

Replacing linux, I installed FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE on the second disk. In 
spite of selecting
the Boot manager for installation, it still doesn't seem to install 
itself. I still see the Lilo menu at
boot time.

When selecting the boot manager option during installation, I am asked 
on which disk the
operation should be performed on, and it selects ad1 (the second disk) 
by default. Using ad1
as the default suggested choice results in no boot manager prompt after 
install completes. If I
select ad0 instead, I get an error message saying "only one fat allowed 
as a child of whole".

Whats the problem here? Thanks in advance

Yatin
If you want to use FreeBSD's boot loader, install it on both disks.

Jud
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Re: Partitioning advice (/usr and /home)

2003-09-15 Thread Jud
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:27:37 +0200, "Michael Vondung"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I'm trying to figure out a decent partitioning layout for a workstation.
> The
> system has an ~80GB disk. After /, /var, /tmp and swap, I have 70GB left.
> I'm wondering how to split these between /usr and /home. Ironically, it
> is
> more space than I seem to need. The box has only one user (me), I do not
> have a fast enough connection to download large amounts audio or video
> files. I plan to run the KDE3 desktop environment with most of its
> applications (this is still well under 1.5GB), assorted other software,
> Wine, two or three Windows apps if they'll run.
> 
> I'm torn between various options here, and would appreciate your input:
> 
> 35GB for each, /usr and /home
> 25GB for /home and 45GB for /home
> 70GB for both together (no /home partition)
> 
> Or something completely different? I'd like this to be "spacey" enough so
> that I won't run out of room at some point in the future, but 35GB for
> /usr
> seems unrealistically much (there won't be mail on this system, it's fed
> by
> an IMAP server on a different machine). Then again, 35GB for /home seems
> just as unrealistically much.
> 
> Backup matters aside, is there a significant advantage of having a
> separate
> /home partition at all? If not, just skipping /home and using 70GB for
> /usr
> (including /usr/home) might be the most practical and flexible approach?

No significant advantage to a separate partition that I know of.  The
primary disadvantage of too much partitioning, running out of room,
doesn't seem to apply here either.  Looks like it's just whatever you
prefer.

Jud
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Re: Rebuilding the Kernel

2003-09-16 Thread Jud
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:19:20 -0500, Charles Howse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> So I can get it right in my head (now there's a challenge).
 The correct
> steps for building a custom kernel is:
>
>   1) update sources
>   2) rm -rf /usr/obj/*
>   3) make buildworld
>   4) edit kernel config file
>   5) make buildkernel
>   6) make installkernel
>   7) reboot
>   8) make installworld
>   9) mergemaster
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Mark.
I believe that's mostly it, but there are smaller steps that may be
important inbetween, like doing `chflags' on /usr/obj/*
before removing
the files - all this is in the manual, though.  The steps outlined
above are in the handbook - in that order.  Take another look at the
handbook and if you still have problem reply with specific issues.
Here's a real good article.
http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=21
# cd /usr/obj

# chflags -R noschg *

# rm -rf *

One other step between removing the old /usr/obj and making buildworld:

# mergemaster -p

Jud
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Re: SCO Group

2003-09-21 Thread Jud
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:24:04 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

On Saturday, 20 September 2003 at 17:16:59 -0400, Timothy Luoma wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:07:53 -0700, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:15:01AM -0400, Ryck wrote:
[snip]
Does Free BSD have anything to worry about regarding SCO Group and 
would
Free BSD users be harmless from SCO Group's litigation threats?
Not likely.  See the mailing list archives for further discussion.
I tried to find some information and had no luck.  I was also looking 
for
any conversation as to whether this situation with SCO was related at 
all
to the problems BSD had with... was it AT&T?  some years back.
The short answer: SCO's predecessors sued the BSDs for much the same
issue over ten years ago.  The matter was settled out of court.  If
you believe this view, then the BSDs have nothing more to fear.
On the other hand, the way SCO is handling the current issue suggests
that they have lost their minds.  They have presented no proof for
their claims
While generally agreeing with the view that SCO appear to "have lost their 
minds," as a lawyer in the U.S. I did want to note that it's not customary 
to present proof at this stage of a lawsuit.

(well, they produced some BSD code purported to be in
Linux, and claimed that it was System V code; see
http://www.lemis.com/grog/SCO/code-comparison.html#BPF for more
details).  As a result, there's no reason to believe that they
wouldn't make similar claims about the BSDs.  After all, the code in
that example *is* in FreeBSD.
I agree with your general point that SCO hasn't given us any reason to 
suppose they'd treat the BSDs - or more specifically, BSD users - 
differently than in the case of Linux.  However, if you don't work for a 
fairly large company and don't have untold personal wealth, there seems 
little reason to suppose SCO would waste time pursuing you or your 
employer.

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Re: PPP modem init string

2003-09-25 Thread Jud
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:16:57 -0700, Daniel Rudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
I think that the mail archive search engine is broken.  No matter what I
try for a search query, it never finds anything.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=mailing.freebsd.questions>

Choosing the option to search only in the -questions list cuts down on 
irrelevant hits.

Jud

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Re: Ports woes.

2003-09-26 Thread Jud
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:32:43 -0700, "Kent Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On Thursday 25 September 2003 04:12 pm, K Anderson wrote:
> > Kent Stewart wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 September 2003 08:45 pm, cuddlesomebunny wrote:
> > >>Could anybody explain to me what is up with ports?
> > >>
> > >>I am using FreeBSD 5.x-p2 and I am using ports and am having one
> > >> hell of a time installing things.
> > >>
> > >>Here's what is happeng.
> > >>
> > >>I go to install ports and if it needs to get a dependency it goes
> > >> and fetches it and becomes the usual compile process. Except that
> > >> the dependency might already be installed with the exact version
> > >> required and so most of the time the ports error out telling me I
> > >> need to make deinstall on some dependency then make reinstall on
> > >> it.
[snip]
> > >>I tried using the portupgrade stuffs but that just seems to make
> > >>things worse overall.
> > >>
> > >>Anybody got any hints as to why it seems ports is having these
> > >> sorts of problems?
> > >
> > > I don't have any idea what you problem is; however, there is an
> > > ongoing discussion on -current with people having port problems.
> > > What I remember is that the freeze has them locked and they can't
> > > patch the ports to build and install on -current until the port
> > > freeze is over. You might be caught by this problem or something
> > > entirely different.

I'm obviously getting into this very late, but I'll hazard a couple of
suggestions.  Apologies if they've already been discussed/discarded.

1. If you haven't already, run portsdb -uU and pkgdb -F.

2. If it isn't among the "portupgrade stuff" you've already tried, the
-fRN options in combination may work.

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Re: can FreeBSD run dos

2003-09-27 Thread Jud
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:51:50 -0500, fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am new to different OS's .
Can this Os run Wordperfect 5.1 for dos???
It might be possible with Wine, but you would need a FAT partition, so 
that would definitely be the long way round - you might as well install 
Win9x in the FAT partition and run WordPerfect on DOS directly.  FreeBSD 
has several good free word processing programs of its own that you may 
want to look at - see http://www.freebsd.org/ports/editors.html>.

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Re: can FreeBSD run dos

2003-09-28 Thread Jud
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:40:45 +0200, christian serb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 09:51:50AM -0500, fred wrote:
> I am new to different OS's .
> Can this Os run Wordperfect 5.1 for dos???
You can use vmware2 (version 3 works only for FreeBSD 5.x) to run a
vertual machine. This way you could run your old programs.

i've coincidentally found that:

Xdos is available at 1. sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/Incoming (will 
probably be moved to
/pub/Linux/ALPHA/dosemu )

source:
http://groups.google.de/groups?q=xdos&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-
8&newwindow=1&selm=2ji219%24qkv%40klaava.Helsinki.FI&rnum=1
I believe xdos/dosemu requires an actual DOS partition on the machine 
(someone please let me know if that's incorrect).  So again, the point 
would be, if you are going to install DOS, why not just run WordPerfect 
from it?

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Re: can FreeBSD run dos - whoops

2003-09-28 Thread Jud
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:44:31 -0400, Jud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:40:45 +0200, christian serb 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 09:51:50AM -0500, fred wrote:
> I am new to different OS's .
> Can this Os run Wordperfect 5.1 for dos???
You can use vmware2 (version 3 works only for FreeBSD 5.x) to run a
vertual machine. This way you could run your old programs.

i've coincidentally found that:

Xdos is available at 1. sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/Incoming (will 
probably be moved to
/pub/Linux/ALPHA/dosemu )

source:
http://groups.google.de/groups?q=xdos&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-
8&newwindow=1&selm=2ji219%24qkv%40klaava.Helsinki.FI&rnum=1
I believe xdos/dosemu requires an actual DOS partition on the machine 
(someone please let me know if that's incorrect).  So again, the point 
would be, if you are going to install DOS, why not just run WordPerfect 
 from it?
[Sound of palm contacting forehead, remind self once again to be more 
careful in future.]

Sorry, xdos/dosemu uses DOS installed to a disk image that lives in a 
directory, by default /usr/local/lib/dosemu.

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Re: Opera 7.20b7 for FreeBSD problems

2003-09-29 Thread Jud
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:01:58 +, David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Yes, they have a FreeBSD native binary :-) Unfortunately,
it doesn't work for me. It fails like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/opera $ ./opera
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libawt.so" not found
But locate shows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/opera $ locate libawt.so
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so
/usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so
Huh??

(I tried the Linux binary as well. It failed the same way.)
Have a look at http://list.droso.net/15/23392>

You might avoid the problem altogether by installing the latest from ports 
(updated a little over an hour ago).

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Re: vmware in 4.9?

2003-10-02 Thread Jud
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:34:36 +0200, "Alex de Kruijff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:11:43PM -0400, Timothy Luoma wrote:
> > 
> > Is it possible to run vmware in FBSD 4.9?  When I tried vmware3 it said it 
> > was broken for  
> vmware3 is only for 5.x
> vmware2 works for 4.x

VMWare doesn't make keys for version 2 any longer AFAIK.  That's what
stopped me when I wanted to install it on 4.x a year or so ago.

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Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-02 Thread Jud
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:43:39 -0600 (MDT), SoloCDM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snip]
Is it possible to go from one distribution version to another (4.x to
5.x) without entirely removing the old version?  Do the upgrades with
the ports allow this possibility?
A new install is usually considered to involve fewer problems than
upgrading across major versions.  Others will be able to give you more
detail than I can about what's involved in such an upgrade.  Upgrading
within or across minor versions (make world and recompile kernel) is
something I and many others do as a matter of routine every week or two
(some folks have it automated).
Can packages and their dependencies be removed through a package that
does the uninstalling?
There are several ways you can do this.  There's pkg_delete for packages,
'make deinstall clean' for ports, and for deleting an older version of a
port to replace it with a newer one, there's the intelligent and lovely
'portupgrade.'  (The upgrade can be for one port, that port plus all
dependencies, or even all your installed ports, just by setting various
single-letter portupgrade options that are clearly spelled out in the man
page.)
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Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-02 Thread Jud
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT), SoloCDM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

[snip]
What CPU (i386, i486, i586, ...) are the packages compiled and geared
towards?
You can easily set this to your own CPU type in /etc/make.conf for all the  
ports you build.  "Packages" in FreeBSD are precompiled binaries, and I  
wouldn't know the answer for those.

Jud

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Re: BSD Question

2003-10-04 Thread Jud
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 04:27:29 -0500, David Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

I'm a Unix newbie who just installed BSD 5.1.  I made it through the  
installation without too much of a hassel and I went ahead and added  
XFree86 in the installation, along with the BSD Boot Manager since I'm  
dual booting with Windows.  I have a 40 gig HD for Windows then I have 2  
separate 120 gig HD raided in 0 config for BSD.  The boot manager is  
installed with the rest of BSD on the raid but when it loads and I go to  
pick, both options boot to BSD.  F1 is labeled FreeBSD and F5 is labeled  
Drive 1, which I was under the illusion should be windows but it turns  
out its not.
[snip]

The FBSD bootloader should be installed on both BIOS drives, IOW on both  
the RAID and the Windows disk.

Jud
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Re: Another question - Boot Menu

2003-10-06 Thread Jud
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:48:16 -0400, Timothy Luoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:24:07 -0700 (PDT), Ronnie Clark  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How does one edit the menu options when using the
FreeBSD boot menu to dual boot with Windows? Currently
mine says:
F1: ???
F2: FreeBSD
I searched the archives, but did not find my answer.
I believe that is just what it says when it runs into a NTFS partition.

I'm running http://gag.sourceforge.net/ on my system and found it quite  
easy to use and also easy to switch which is the default, etc.
Points for searching the archives, but in this case it's an FAQ.  :)  The  
bootloader will work even though it just shows question marks.  "???" is  
what it says when it runs into a filesystem that might be NTFS, or it  
might be OS/2's HPFS filesystem, or even QNX - they all share a filesystem  
ID number of 7.  Other bootloaders such as the NT/XP bootloader, Grub,  
GAG, etc., are multi-part: one piece lives in the boot sector (which is  
quite small) and does the booting, and another, larger bit allows you to  
configure cool stuff like graphics, labels, etc.  FreeBSD's bootloader  
just has the small bit that does the booting.  If you want something other  
than question marks, you can hack the bootloader source (I've never tried  
and don't know what's involved) or use one of the other available  
bootloaders, several of which have been mentioned in this thread.  The  
NT/XP loader you already have; GAG is easy and (because it works with  
RAID) is the one I use ATM; Grub is very configurable and its  
documentation is useful to learn about bootloaders and the way they work.

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Re: Canon printer, USB, setup? HOW?

2003-10-08 Thread Jud
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:27:39 +0300, Alex Zivenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Hi people.
I am no a newbie but I had to setup parallel port connecting printers. 
Now I need to setup USB printer, Canon s200 model.
How?
mab y links.
-
The device will be ulptx rather than lptx.  Cups and apsfilter from the 
ports both worked with my Canon i950 USB printer; apsfilter seemed to do a 
bit better with web pages.

The fact that I know very little about Unix/FreeBSD is good 
news/not-so-bad news.  Good: if I can do it, it can't be difficult.  
Not-so-bad: if you get stuck, someone else will have to help.

Jud
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Re: Hello!

2003-10-09 Thread Jud
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:40:27 EDT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
Sorry, I can't tell you a solution for your video card problem - you might 
try the text mode configuration and see if one of the generic or generic 
ATI cards matches closely enough.

Also, I have a sound
blaster 16 PCI card(PNP), and even 5.0 FreeBSD still reports it as 
UNKNOWN DEVICE..
Add "device pcm" (no quotes) to your kernel, recompile, and reboot.

Jud
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Re: 'lo again - downloading 5.0 i-386

2003-10-09 Thread Jud
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:48:09 +0100, wfblabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

hello all at FreeBSD,

 i'm currently downloading
release 5.0, disc1.iso (i-386)
despite what i was told about
it not having javascript compatiblity
as i'm not that bothered about javascript (and i don't know for sure
that it doesn't support it).
That's Java, which is entirely different than javascript.  You can install 
Java as a port in 5.x, but not as a package.  In FreeBSD 4.x, you can 
install Java from either a port or a package.  If you don't know the 
difference between ports and packages, don't worry about it.

 Anyway, i hope i can get it to work.
I chose the i-386 dist because i thought
that's the one i need but i'm not entirely
sure... what does i-386 mmean
exactly??
i386 means PC CPU architecture, as distinct from PowerPC (Mac), Sparc 
(Sun), Alpha (DEC), or others.  (IOW, Intel x86 or compatible, such as AMD 
or Cyrix.)

It's recommended for various good reasons that folks new to the OS start 
with 4.x rather than 5.x.

There is excellent documentation available at the FreeBSD web site 
(particularly the online Handbook) and elsewhere, which is very helpful to 
read prior to installation.

Jud
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Re: Anyone running /usr/ports/dns/ez-ipupdate?

2003-10-11 Thread Jud
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:33:39 -0500, Charles Howse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> There's practically no documentation for this port.
> Where can I find the complete documentation?
> I've read every file it installs, and Googled for over an hour, no
joy.
>
http://ez-ipupdate.com/userdoc.php
Been there.  You must not have clicked any of the links in the table.
None of them resolve.  HTTP 404 Not Found.
I've used and liked ddclient, which is also in ports.  While the 
documentation isn't the most thorough I've ever seen, it at least lets you 
get an idea how to do the proper configuration for your setup.

Jud
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Re: Quick upgrading question

2003-10-13 Thread Jud
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:47:29 -0500, Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

In the last episode (Oct 13), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hi there + happy turkey day,
Thanksgiving is in November :)
Not in Canada.  I remember wondering years back why Western Canadians 
waited until late November to start the ski season, before I found out 
"Thanksgiving" comes in October north of the border.  :)

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Re: question about cvsup

2003-10-14 Thread Jud
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:19:25 -0800, "Jon Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> If I install applications from the ports tree and make all the
> configuration changes then upgrade my system using cvsup, will that
> break all the installed applications? Like say one of my apps has been
> updated for a security hole, will it break it?

It won't break any of your applications.  It won't upgrade your
applications, either.  To upgrade an application after you have updated
its source with cvsup, portupgrade is excellent.  I'd recommend
installing it, reading the man page, and using it to upgrade your
applications.

Jud
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Re: Openoffice 1.1 + native java

2003-10-16 Thread Jud
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:59:52 +, "Matthew Faircliff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hello,
> 
> Can anyone tell me if openoffice 1.1 (openoffice-devel) works with the
> native java (diablo-jdk13)? 
> 
> Matthew Faircliff

I don't know the answer, but would also appreciate one - perhaps slightly
more generalized, as I have been trying mightily to get Martin Blapp's
OO-RC5 package for -CURRENT to recognize my install of JDK 1.4.1
(patchlevel 4) from ports, without success.

Jud
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Re: Openoffice 1.1 + native java

2003-10-17 Thread Jud
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:01:11 +0200, "dick hoogendijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:23:44 +
> Matthew Faircliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I never thought I would see the day, but now I can open Excel and Word
> > docs in FreeBSD no problem! And its fast!
> > 
> > I'm trashing my Windows partition tonight! Viva BSD!
> 
> Why didn't you just get the FreeBSD precompiled packages for OO-1.1 ??

I did (though I'm not Matthew, so I'm not answering for him), but I can't
get OpenOffice to "see" my native JDK 1.4.1 installed (from the port) on
-CURRENT.  I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has this
arrangement working.   Since I am on a 28.8K dialup connection, it would
take a long time to install the port, while I already have the package
(though it took all night to download).

Jud
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Re: Openoffice 1.1 + native java

2003-10-17 Thread Jud
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:55:41 -0400, "Jesse Guardiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> dick hoogendijk wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:23:44 +
> > Matthew Faircliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> I never thought I would see the day, but now I can open Excel and Word
> >> docs in FreeBSD no problem! And its fast!
> >> 
> >> I'm trashing my Windows partition tonight! Viva BSD!
> > 
> > Why didn't you just get the FreeBSD precompiled packages for OO-1.1 ??
> 
> ?? Where/How would I get that?
> 
> I'd love to get 1.1 installed on my FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE machine, but
> I don't want to cvsup my ports tree because then I wouldn't be able to
> install packages. I'd have to build everything from source.
> 
> Maybe I just don't understand how to use the ports tree 100% yet...

If you cvsup the ports tree, you can choose to install from either ports
or packages.

Ports are just a very easy automated/scripted way to compile an
application from source on your machine, rather than use a package that
has been pre-compiled.

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Re: Openoffice 1.1 + native java

2003-10-17 Thread Jud
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:37:55 -0400, "Jesse Guardiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Jud wrote:
[snip]
> > If you cvsup the ports tree, you can choose to install from either ports
> > or packages.
> 
> 
> Do you run a cvsuped ports tree? I used to run one last year, and I could
> never install from a package because the ports tree was in a constant
> state
> of flux.

I'm probably just being thick, but I'm not sure what cvsup-ing the ports
has to do with availability/installability of packages.  What have you
read in the Handbook or elsewhere that gives you the impression one would
interfere with the other?

> What does your cvsup config file look like?

It's just the ports-supfile copied from /usr/share/examples/cvsup.

> How often do you run it?

About once every week or two.

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Re: Openoffice 1.1 + native java

2003-10-17 Thread Jud
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:35:07 -0400, Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Jud wrote:
[snip]
I'm probably just being thick, but I'm not sure what cvsup-ing the ports
has to do with availability/installability of packages.  What have you
read in the Handbook or elsewhere that gives you the impression one 
would
interfere with the other?
Maybe we're both being thick. :) I install my packages via portupgrade 
-NP,
which tends to rely on the port system, AFAIK.
Err, no, you are installing *ports* with *port*upgrade.  Packages - which 
can be installed with sysinstall, pkg_add, and likely other ways I'm not 
familiar with - are *applications compiled elsewhere* that you simply are 
installing into the appropriate places in FreeBSD's directory system.  
Ports - what you use when you run portupgrade or cd into 
/usr/ports/$SOMEPORT and type "make install clean" - are a 
scripted/automated system for downloading *source code*, then compiling it 
(normally with gcc) *on your computer* before it is installed.  So using 
cvsup to update the port "skeleton" - the instructions for downloading the 
source code and compiling the port for Application Foo on your computer - 
has nothing to do with fetching the package for Application Foo that has 
already been compiled somewhere else.

What do you use? /stand/sysinstall?
That will install packages or the ports *system*, which you can then 
update with cvsup, and use by running portupgrade or cd'ing to a port's 
directory and typing "make install clean."

What does your cvsup config file look like?
It's just the ports-supfile copied from /usr/share/examples/cvsup.

How often do you run it?
About once every week or two.
I used to run mine every night via cron, and I could never get a package
installed because one never existed on ftp.freebsd.org. I'm under the
impression that packages are only built/provided for release versions of
FreeBSD.
Updating ports tells your system to look for updated source code (*not* 
packages) somewhere on the Net - not necessarily ftp.freebsd.org - and/or 
gives your system new instructions for building the application once the 
source code has been downloaded.  It has nothing to do with any 
precompiled applications that may be available at ftp.freebsd.org or 
elsewhere (such as the location for the pre-compiled OpenOffice binary).

Let's use an actual example, the one that started this discussion, 
OpenOffice.  It can be installed as a pre-compiled package by typing

# pkg_add http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/stable/openoffice-1.1RC4.tgz

assuming you're running FreeBSD 4.x (you could also download the package 
to $SOMEDIR, then pkg_add $SOMEDIR/openoffice-1.1RC4.tgz), or you can

# cd /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel

# make install clean

or

# portupgrade -N /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel

and watch as the source downloads and your computer compiles and installs 
it.  (And watch, and watch  Downloading and compiling OpenOffice takes 
a looong time, which is why many people will prefer the quicker 
installation afforded by the 77MB precompiled package.)

HTH,

Jud
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Re: Upgrade to 4.8 RELEASE

2003-10-18 Thread Jud
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:04:39 -0400, Robert H. Perry 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I'm making plans to upgrade from 4.7 RELEASE to 4.8 RELEASE.  My 
previous attempt was a binary upgrade from 4.5 to 4.7 which did not go 
very well.  I eventually purchased the 4.7 CD.  The FreeBSD Handbook 
stresses  backing up the system and implies that /dump/ is a better 
backup program.  Chapter 12.9.8.1 of  the handbook recommends having a 
copy of the boot and fixit floppies available and making sure they have 
all your devices, otherwise you'll need to prepare two bootable custom 
floppies  that contain /fdisk, disklabel, newfs, mount, /and your backup 
program.   It goes on to say that these programs must be statically 
linked.  I understand hard and soft links but I'm not familiar with 
static links.  The handbook also provides a script for creatinng a 
bootable floppy.

Can someone help me understand static link?  Secondly, can I assume that 
the script must be reviewed for likely modifications?  I'm just learning 
shell programming and if significant modifications are necessary, I may 
end up purchasing a CD for 4.8.

Any suggestions relative to the upgrade process is also appreciated.
Unless there is a specific reason not to do so, cvsup and make world would 
seem to be an easier and altogether better way to go for an upgrade from 
one minor version number to the next.  Many users do this quite routinely 
(e.g., I do it once every week or two).  See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html#CUTTING-EDGE-SYNOPSIS>.  
While this section of the Handbook talks about the "cutting edge" 
development branches, -CURRENT and -STABLE, the same process can be used 
to upgrade to a -RELEASE.

Jud
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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Jud

On 20 Oct 2003 13:25:49 -0400, "Mailing Lists Catcher"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> There is no port for 5.x that I can find so updating your ports tree
> wont do much good.
> 
> You can try downloading the package for 4-stable or wait for it to
> appear for 5.x.  I am not certain what would happen if you downloaded
> the package for 4-stable and tried pgk_adddo this at your own risk.
> 
> Jason Cribbins
> 
> On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:27, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
> >  I have 5.1 Realease and i want install mozilla-firebird, but in these realease 
> > don exist, what can ido?
> > i found the package  for the 4.8-Stable and can  not install it due to 
> > dependencies whit gettext xfree_libraries . Waht should i do? How can i update 
> > my ports collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT CVSUP
> > Thanks

[Sigh] Don't believe everything you read.  The ports are the same for 4.x
and 5.x.

Do you have the ports collection (the /usr/ports directory and contents)
in your version of 5.1-RELEASE?  If so, you can cd to
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird and type 'make install clean' (no
quotes).  That should get you version 0.6, I believe.

Why are you unable to cvsup?  If it is because you don't have the cvsup
application installed, see if you can download and install the package
for it (I'd recommend choosing the cvsup-without-gui package; you can
also install cvsup using the port, but that takes a very long time
downloading, compiling and installing Modula-3).  Once you have cvsup
installed, you can use it to install/update the ports collection.  If you
cannot use cvsup for some other reason, you might try FTP-ing the latest
ports collection.  (Since I am behind a firewall without FTP access ATM,
can someone tell us whether there is an FTP-able ports collection with
version 0.7 of Mozilla-Firebird?)

Jud
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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS (long)

2003-10-20 Thread Jud
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:45:48 -0400, Osmany Guirola Cruz 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


-Original Message-
From:   Jud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 10/20/2003 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Osmany Guirola Cruz
Cc: freebsd-questions
Subject:Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

you might try FTP-ing the latest
ports collection.

Ok People i download the latest port.tar.gz
it includes the mozilla-firebird if i install it what could happen whit 
my system it needs xfree greater than i have installed
?what should i do? upgrade the entite syste?
OK, very good - you now have a very recent set of ports "skeletons" (the 
instructions to download the source for, compile, and install on your 
system any of over 9000 applications).

As you see, these ports have 'dependencies' (other ports they need), and 
upgrading a port sometimes means upgrading one or more dependencies.  
FreeBSD has an excellent application for managing port upgrades that will 
help you.  It is called (not surprisingly) 'portupgrade.'  Find it in the 
ports system (usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade) and install it.

Now, regarding your question whether you should upgrade your whole system: 
It is a good idea to keep your system up-to-date with your ports.  
However, the usual way to do this is with cvsup.  :(  (You should read 
about CTM, as Kris mentioned, in the Handbook online at the FreeBSD web 
site to determine whether you might be able to update using that method.)  
Therefore, you probably want to try installing the latest Mozilla-Firebird 
without updating your entire system.  To do this, after you have installed 
portupgrade and either rebooted or typed "rehash," type

# portupgrade -RN mozilla-firebird

If you get an error saying a dependency is already installed, you can try

# portupgrade -fRN mozilla-firebird

I have an alternative to suggest that may be quicker and easier, because 
building the latest mozilla-firebird from the port is a very long 
process.  Did you install Linux emulation when you installed FreeBSD?  If 
yes, then type

# portupgrade linux_base

If not, type

# portupgrade -RN linux_base

or

# portupgrade -RN linux_base-8

(As before, if you see an error that a dependency is already installed, 
try adding the -f option to portupgrade.)  Add the following line to your 
/etc/rc.conf file if it is not already there:

linux_enable="YES"

Then download the Mozilla-Firebird Linux binary from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firebird/releases/0.7/MozillaFirebird-0.7-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz>.  
Install the Linux binary, reboot, and you should have a working version of 
the latest Mozilla-Firebird on your system in much less time than if you 
compiled it from a port.

Jud

P.S.  Osmany, please type your replies at the bottom rather than the top 
of the messages to which you are replying, and try to make some kind of 
visual separation between the original message and your reply.  It makes 
everything much easier to read.
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Re: Noob FreeBSD 5.1 install question

2003-10-20 Thread Jud
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:22:07 -0400 (EDT), <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,
I am new to this list and new to freeBSD.  I run a Mandrake 9.1 server 
and
wish to convert to FreeBSD.  Here are 2 questions that I have.

A) I have reinstall freeBSD many times over and over.  I work with W2k
machine at work and do a Unattended install when I don't want to select
the same options over and over again on multiple machines.  Is there a 
way
I can create a install Config file to select all my options for me?  Is
there a way I can take a snapshot of the way the OS is currently
configured and make a Install Config File?  Maybe something that will 
auto
set my TimeZone, Partition / Slice sizes, just to get the Base OS
installed without any ports (except for maybe Lynx Text Web Browser)

B) after installing Various ports on the system, do I have to do a Make
Clean after each install or can I run Make Clean after installing all of
my required Ports?
Just as FYI I am running FreeBSD 5.1, I have downloaded and Burned the 2
ISO's (Full Install and Repair / Fix It) I run the install from the cd,
then I choose to NOT install the ports, download the 19.x meg file from
FreeBSD.org/ports and un Tar it into the /usr folder.
Thanks for any help you can provide.

John
A) Have a look at dump and restore.

B) Type 'make install clean' or use portupgrade.

Jud
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Re: Upgrade to 4.8 RELEASE

2003-10-23 Thread Jud

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:21:13 -0400, "Jesse Guardiani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Jud wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:04:39 -0400, Robert H. Perry
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Unless there is a specific reason not to do so, cvsup and make world would
> > seem to be an easier and altogether better way to go for an upgrade from
> > one minor version number to the next.  Many users do this quite routinely
> > (e.g., I do it once every week or two).  See  > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html#CUTTING-EDGE-SYNOPSIS>.
> > While this section of the Handbook talks about the "cutting edge"
> > development branches, -CURRENT and -STABLE, the same process can be used
> > to upgrade to a -RELEASE.
> 
> Do you find it impossible to install binary packages after such an
> update?
> Do you have to use ports after such an update?
> 
> I could never get packages to install properly after cvsuping my source.
> I'm wondering if this is somehow by design, or if I did something
> wrong... ?

Last question first: IIRC, you were a bit confused regarding ports vs.
packages, so the reason for failure of packages (or perhaps it was
ports?) to install properly may be as simple as typing commands meant for
ports when you really wanted to install a package, or vice versa. 
Installing a package is as easy as typing 'pkg_add' followed by a URL, or
a directory location if you've downloaded the package first.  Installing
a port is also quite easy - just cd to the port's directory and type
'make install clean.'

If you cvsup the -CURRENT or 5.x base system sources and make world, then
packages expecting a 4.x base system won't install properly.  However
(again, IIRC), Mr. Perry was contemplating an update from 4.7 to 4.8, so
packages built for 4.x should install fine.

Jud
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Re: ATA Raid cards

2003-10-23 Thread Jud

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:42:25 +0200, "Mathieu Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm in a need of such a card, but I can't find out which cards are only
> doing raid under windows with specific drivers, and which cards are doing
> real hard raid.

Depends what you want to do with it.  My experience is with my own
desktop machines for RAID-0 or RAID-1, and for those the Promise cards
(or equivalent onboard chips in my case) have never given me a problem
beyond having to wait a few days for a bit of tweaking in -CURRENT once
in a great while.  These particular Promise chips don't do "real hard
raid" AFAIK, but thanks to Soeren Schmidt they work fine in FreeBSD.

Jud
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RE: Dynamic Disks & FreeBSD

2003-10-23 Thread Jud

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:35:20 +0300, "Ivailo Tanusheff"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[snip]
> But still you can revert dynamic disk to basic from Disk administration
> utility in Windows 2000/XP.

You will want to take an image of the drive(s) or otherwise backup
desired apps and data beforehand.  In Win2K, reversion from dynamic to
basic disks is a data-destructive process.  Has that changed in XP?

Jud
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Re: RAID 0 After the install?

2003-10-28 Thread Jud
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:57:35 -0900, Joe Pokupec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Hey All,

I'd like to use RAID 0 one ATA in my FreeBSD box (it's 4.7 right now, 
but I
plan to upgrade to 5.1 this week). I have some basic questions, if 
they've
been answered already, maybe someone could point me to a link:

- If I use a hardware ATA RAID card, are there certain system settings
required for FreeBSD to recognize this, or is the RAID format done at a
platform-independent level (BIOS or other boot utilities)?
FreeBSD has always automagically recognized my RAID0 array (Promise 
onboard 20265 and 20276).  If you set up the RAID array before installing 
5.1 you should be fine.  There are also FreeBSD HD management utilities 
that can be used to create and manage RAID arrays (e.g., atacontrol), but 
I haven't used them.

- If one of the 2 hard drives fail, the data will still be visible and
accessible on the remaining drive correct? How easy is it to replace the
failed drive? Will the data from the good drive automatically copy over 
to
the newly replaced drive or are there a lot of shenanigans involved?
You are describing RAID1, not RAID0.  Some reading about RAID before you 
do this is recommended, I think.  :)

Jud
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Re: Clarification on CVS Tags

2003-10-28 Thread Jud

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:00:32 -0800, "Jason Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Thanks Matthew for your explanation. You answered a lot of my questions.
> Makes sense now really.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, why would someone want to use:
> 
> RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE?
> 
> Is there some type of benefit?
> One would think that the best option for production servers is:
> 
> RELENG_4_8
> 
> THanks for your insight.

Releases are thoroughly tested through multiple release candidate stages,
but bugs occasionally slip through even there.  The security/bugfix
branch is not as widely tested, but is reliable to the extent that a few
isolated fixes shouldn't break anything and can undergo fairly thorough
testing by relatively fewer people.

There are those who will trust the thorough testing theory more than the
few-isolated-fixes theory.  Also, particular production servers may not
be running the piece of the base system in which a security hole is
found, e.g., sendmail.  Both are legitimate reasons to stick with the
release rather than the security branch.

Jud
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Re: Problems with 'make world' stuff

2003-10-28 Thread Jud
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:09:24 -0800, Jason Williams 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Once I had my sources updated, I did the following:

I booted into single mode:

cd /usr/src
make buildworld
cd /usr/src
make buildkernel
make installkernel
I rebooted to test the kernel and that is where I ran into trouble. I 
did not type make installworld as suggested in the handbook. It said to 
test the kernel first.

I was told I did not have to run mergemaster since this was a brand new 
install of 4.8. Is that incorrect?

I appreciate your help.
If the new kernel boots, that's fine.  Just continue on with the rest of 
the Handbook procedure.  After you have installed the new world, run 
mergemaster, and rebooted, then you can test your userland (apps/utilities 
like top and ps).

Stick with the Handbook procedure.  Customized build procedures *usually* 
work (otherwise people wouldn't use them), but the folks who build FreeBSD 
try to ensure that the steps outlined in the Handbook will pretty much 
*always* work.

BTW, there's a prescribed step I don't see above.  Before buildworld, you 
should update any config files necessary for buildworld by running 
mergemaster -p (mergemaster with the "pre-buildworld" option).  See 
Section 21.4.3 of the Handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html>.

Jud
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Re: Two questions: WLAN and FBSD Bootloader

2003-10-28 Thread Jud
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:47:39 +, Andrew Humphries 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
2. My second problem, which isn't really a great problem (more of a
vanity thing really), is with the FreeBSD boot loader. On boot the
loader looks like this:
F1   ???
F2   FreeBSD
Default: F2

Now thats all fine and dandy, except the other OS on my hard drive is
Windows XP Professional. How do I alter the boot loader to reflect F1 as
being WinXP? I've read the man-page for boot0cfg and it doesn't appear
to offer what I need, moreover I see no point in fiddling with the
existing configuration of the slices. As I said, its mainly vanity.
I hope that someone will be able to answer my questions, many thanks in
advance,
See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#CHANGING-BOOTPROMPT>.  
If you would like to have WinXP named in the boot menu, you have several 
alternatives.  Section 9.10 of the same FAQ tells you how to use XP's 
bootloader to boot both XP and FreeBSD.  Or you can install Grub from the 
FreeBSD ports (Grub is very nice - read the online documentation 
*thoroughly* beforehand).  Or for something more automagic, try GAG.

Jud
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