Re: Database problems
John Keegan wrote: Does Powermail Salvage even work on Intel Macs? On Powermail 6 message databases? No, unfortunately, PowerMail Salvage does not work for PowerMail 6 databases. You can try to create a new PowerMail User Environment (from the file / database menu), quit PowerMail, then copy your old Message Database file to this new folder, in the hope that the corrupted file was one of the other ones (address database etc). If that does not work, I don't see anything else you can try. Note that if your POP settings are to leave messages on the server for at least a few days or weeks, you should be able to re-download messages received after your last backup. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - FoxTrot is a must have for me. It is simply awesome! Type a few words and it finds and shows you the location in the files. Wow! Got love it. Thank you thank you thank you! FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch -
Re: Database problems
I was getting the same problem with mine. I have a G4 Power PC that has an upgraded processor. I did this so i could run Leopard. When i got 6.0.6b1 in the mail i made a copy of the program i was getting the errors with and saved a copy of the data base. I then loaded the 6.0.6b1 and tried it on the original daa base and i did not get the errors again. seems what inspired me was that this upgrade was supposed to help with problems like this. just a thought Gerry I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 I have a similar issue as Don had, but worse. I woke up to find Powermail locked up. It would not quit and I needed to do a force quit. Upon trying to re-open, Powermail wants to rebuild sort indices and then when it is done it exits with the same error as above. None of the options in PowerMail First Aid help, including low level rebuild with the latest beta. I now have a corrupt message database that Powermail can not open. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have tried all the usual suspects, verified/repaired the disk itself, PowerMail First Aid by holding down command option on startup, etc, to no avail. I have a 4 day old backup, but would like to recover that mail... I have a copy of Powermail Salvage from a similar situation a couple years ago, but when I launch Powermail Salvage on my Intel Macbook or Mac Mini it just does the spinning beach ball... Does Powermail Salvage even work on Intel Macs? On Powermail 6 message databases? Any options for me to get my mail back? Thanks in advance for any help. -- The faster the computer The more impatient the user
Re: Database problems
I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 I have a similar issue as Don had, but worse. I woke up to find Powermail locked up. It would not quit and I needed to do a force quit. Upon trying to re-open, Powermail wants to rebuild sort indices and then when it is done it exits with the same error as above. None of the options in PowerMail First Aid help, including low level rebuild with the latest beta. I now have a corrupt message database that Powermail can not open. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have tried all the usual suspects, verified/repaired the disk itself, PowerMail First Aid by holding down command option on startup, etc, to no avail. I have a 4 day old backup, but would like to recover that mail... I have a copy of Powermail Salvage from a similar situation a couple years ago, but when I launch Powermail Salvage on my Intel Macbook or Mac Mini it just does the spinning beach ball... Does Powermail Salvage even work on Intel Macs? On Powermail 6 message databases? Any options for me to get my mail back? Thanks in advance for any help.
Re: Database problems
Don Zahniser wrote: Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Low-level rebuild is currently broken. However, its only purpose it to fix some cases where compact database could fail. If you can successfully compact, verify the consistency, rebuild sort and search indices, then your database is safe. If you have troubles exporting the entire mail database in PowerMail Exchange format, you can try exporting one or a few folders at a time using the selected mail folders option. You can also search for messages in a given date range, mail account etc, then select them in the search result window, and export the selected messages. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search is a fantastic application. I simply couldn't live without it. FoxTrot Professional Search user comment Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch -
Re(2): Database problems
Thanks Jérôme for telling us it's broken. It makes me feel better to know that it's NOT my data even though I suspected it was a Powermail problem. I suspect a large number of your users are power users where email is a very important part of their operation. Knowing that our very valuable email file is NOT corrupted is critical, and with all data in one file, even more important than with other systems. It's not that I suspect Powermail itself of corrupting data, but that I've been around computer systems for over 40 years and I know that bad stuff happens to data files even when everything appears to be OK. We tell our customers to backup frequently, and to verify database integrity on a regular basis. Customers that lose data are not happy customers. Now I think it's time for me to do a compact database... +---+ Bill Schjelderup, President b...@companioncorp.com COMPanion Corporation801-365-0555 voice 1831 Fort Union Blvd. 801-943-7752 fax Salt Lake City, Utah 84121-3041 www.companioncorp.com +---+ Nusquam est qui ubique est. - He who is everywhere is nowhere. This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are NOT the intended recipient, I'm sorry to bother you and will attempt to address my messages more carefully in the future. Don Zahniser wrote: Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Low-level rebuild is currently broken. However, its only purpose it to fix some cases where compact database could fail. If you can successfully compact, verify the consistency, rebuild sort and search indices, then your database is safe. If you have troubles exporting the entire mail database in PowerMail Exchange format, you can try exporting one or a few folders at a time using the selected mail folders option. You can also search for messages in a given date range, mail account etc, then select them in the search result window, and export the selected messages. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search is a fantastic application. I simply couldn't live without it. FoxTrot Professional Search user comment Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch -
Database problems
After my spinning beachball adventures trying to export my PowerMail database to PowerMail exchange format, I thought I would try to do some maintenance on the database. I restarted PowerMail and checked all of the items in the first category. Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Translation, please? Could this be related to my seeming inability to export to PowerMail Exchange format? Any further assistance would be welcome! - Don -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11; PowerMail 6.0.5
Re: Database problems
Since the last update I've not been able to do low level rebuilds. I'm on the latest hardware and systems. I do rebuilds on a regular basis, so I suspect since the problem occurred just after the update, that there is a problem with Powermail. I've not noticed any other bad side effect, other options work well. It seems to be that Powermail is on maintenance development from CTM, I keep looking at alternatives...but none do it for me. I expect with all the competition for email clients and Powermail not supporting HTML email very well it's market is limited to the group of us that need the unique features of the program. I can only hope it's economically rational for CTM to continue to invest resources into the product into the future. Much like my Quicken 2006, the ONLY PPC application I still use. I'm happy to pay for a new product...but none can do the fairly simple things I need. I would feel more confident if the low level rebuild worked +---+ Bill Schjelderup, President b...@companioncorp.com COMPanion Corporation801-365-0555 voice 1831 Fort Union Blvd. 801-943-7752 fax Salt Lake City, Utah 84121-3041 www.companioncorp.com +---+ Nusquam est qui ubique est. - He who is everywhere is nowhere. This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are NOT the intended recipient, I'm sorry to bother you and will attempt to address my messages more carefully in the future. After my spinning beachball adventures trying to export my PowerMail database to PowerMail exchange format, I thought I would try to do some maintenance on the database. I restarted PowerMail and checked all of the items in the first category. Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Translation, please? Could this be related to my seeming inability to export to PowerMail Exchange format? Any further assistance would be welcome! - Don -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11; PowerMail 6.0.5
Re: Database problems
Hello alls, I've the same problema: when I try rebuild low level, I got the fatal message: Class-DB what=100 err=130 I've the same felling as Bill: Powermail seems to be on maintenance development from CTM. It seems also to be a PERMANENT maintenance development... Sigh! Best regards. -- Raphaël Parejo Le/el/ Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:43:19 -0500 Don Zahniser (dzahni...@rochester.rr.com) m'a écrit / me escribió : After my spinning beachball adventures trying to export my PowerMail database to PowerMail exchange format, I thought I would try to do some maintenance on the database. I restarted PowerMail and checked all of the items in the first category. Everything seemed to work except the low-level rebuild. I got a series of errors, one for each database component that needed rebuilding. In each case, the error codes were the same: Class-DB what=100 err=130 Translation, please? Could this be related to my seeming inability to export to PowerMail Exchange format? Any further assistance would be welcome! - Don -- Don Zahniser Powerbook G3 (Pismo), 40GB HD (5200 RPM), 768 MB RAM, Mac OS 10.4.11; PowerMail 6.0.5
Re: Database problems
On 11/23/10, at 10:03 AM, Bill Schjelderup b...@companioncorp.com said: It seems to be that Powermail is on maintenance development from CTM, I keep looking at alternatives...but none do it for me. I expect with all the competition for email clients and Powermail not supporting HTML email very well it's market is limited to the group of us that need the unique features of the program. I can only hope it's economically rational for CTM to continue to invest resources into the product into the future. PM is my primary e-mail client because of its speed, search capabilities, etc., but when I need better HTML implementation, I crank up Mail. I assume you're right about PM just being in maintenance mode, but I hope for a bit more from the them. My guess is them is only Jean Michel, Jérôme Seydoux and Chantal. Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ...
Re: multiple installs one database
On 8-Jul-10, at 8:10 AM, MB wrote: I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this involves many users? To be accurate, it's currently two users and three computer locations... tho that could grow. IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to be so primitive, and lack control. Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith? -- John Snippe
Re: multiple installs one database
John Snippe j...@snippe.ca wrote (Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:07:46 -0400): IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to be so primitive, and lack control. Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith? I like Mailsmith, and if it had been free at the time when I was looking for a new email client, I admit I might have chosen Mailsmith instead of PowerMail. However, while PowerMail's IMAP support it quite basic, Mailsmith doesn't support IMAP at all. And, according to the author, it probably never will. And Mailsmith doesn't work with a single database but individual files (one file for each message) and I don't know what will happen if you just sync those files between various computers. Kind regards, Tobias Jung
Re: multiple installs one database
On 10-Jul-10, at 9:51 AM, Tobias Jung wrote: And Mailsmith doesn't work with a single database but individual files (one file for each message) and I don't know what will happen if you just sync those files between various computers. Actually, afaik the current iteration does indeed use a database rather than text-file system... it was apparently the first thing the developer changed in going from v2.2 to v2.2.5 once BareBones let it go. It's one of the things that somewhat disappointed me about this new version as I am kinda-sorta still old-school about liking text files ;-) It would actually not be a 'sync' issue per se, if I set up the user database in the Dropbox folder, and alias that folder to the various installs (I think...) That's something I am hoping to test, in any event. I feel so unfaithful having this discourse here... BTW: the sales department did get through to me this AM with a multi- license promo coupon... thanks, Chantal ;-) -- John Snippe
Re: multiple installs one database
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.07.10 14:07, schrieb John Snippe: On 8-Jul-10, at 8:10 AM, MB wrote: I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this involves many users? To be accurate, it's currently two users and three computer locations... tho that could grow. IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to be so primitive, and lack control. Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith? you maybe want to take a look on Thundrbird or Apple Mail. Both work well with several IMAP accounts. If you administer your server, you could install RoundCube instead of SquirrelMail. RoundCube needs additional a mySQL installed, but has a nice interface. cheers Matthias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMOIa7AAoJEA4R31O3DV24UzUH/iyGO5Du1JsVzTx8dKXFO4PQ J/hGU6ktKtudGbAT019ELhixPSLcI4kbZ7AcYL06IA5Ys/nBf7F6hF9ybGVCgDqS gR9saPYV04S1PJRP2DzQyuUx66dr5plR74sq5UZGkmCCeu7eIwX8EAnyNNlw/ZNj +GCNcm0VkW1YAPvt3UPnJ0btbdpDeP1Cya05OkNpl839toRL9HV4sbZgChnROAi/ jV52U1eVT460T0bmP8w2x1IUiR6wjdfIQi+carljufaTNgYd2rXkm1Mi5XlKZAvO WeReqz4SqjToT9wkPD6xi9n0OAziorg6y7xtCe31JdCaNF69nxl3Kfyn54Whejo= =b6aL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: multiple installs one database
On 10-Jul-10, at 10:57 AM, Tobias Jung wrote: No, it's the other way round: While the old version used a database (or maybe mbox files with a single file for each mail folder, can't remember at the moment) the current version indeed stores an individual file for each message. MyBad... you are absolutely right. I could use Coda to browse my email ;-) Do you know if there is a trick to getting Mailsmith to resolve aliases? I am attempting to store the 'user dababase' outside the default location, and the docs say this is possible, but so far no joy... -- John Snippe
Re: multiple installs one database
John Snippe j...@snippe.ca wrote (Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:16:29 -0400): Do you know if there is a trick to getting Mailsmith to resolve aliases? I am attempting to store the 'user dababase' outside the default location, and the docs say this is possible, but so far no joy... Sorry, I can't help you; I never tried something like this. Kind regards, Tobias Jung
Re: multiple installs one database
*John Snippe asked: So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder It's certainly possible but not likely to be practical unless you're on the same stable network subnet. , and/or is it possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, It's not possible nor would it be recommended to even attempt it. *Beatrix Willius said: IMAP was designed for this sort of problem. That could be said, however this is ruling out PowerMail as a client IMHO as the IMAP-support is very basic. But this does depend on the amount of traffic of course. I do check webmail accounts with more sporadic traffic via IMAP in PowerMail. Unfortunately leaving the messages on server and fetching via POP from multiple locations is inadvisable as PowerMail more often than other clients in my experience misses to fetch occasional messages and fetches a lot of duplicates as well, at least so on high volume accounts. And this with only one DB and one client in one location. It's a drag really. MB Technoids: PM 6.0.5 build 4621 sv | OS X 10.5.8 | PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 | 4GB / 1.5TB
Re: multiple installs one database
On 8-Jul-10, at 6:43 AM, MB wrote: That could be said, however this is ruling out PowerMail as a client IMHO as the IMAP-support is very basic. But this does depend on the amount of traffic of course. I do check webmail accounts with more sporadic traffic via IMAP in PowerMail Yes, that's an option I am looking at. We have Squirrel on the server... but it's REALLY not pwermail, is it?!? I wonder if environments will help with the corruption issue... it could limit database access to a 'one user - multiple points of access' situation, which would stop update collisions and that inherent risk of corruption. Yes/no? -- John Snippe
Re: multiple installs one database
John Snippe said: I wonder if environments will help with the corruption issue... it could limit database access to a 'one user - multiple points of access' situation, which would stop update collisions and that inherent risk of corruption. Yes/no? I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this involves many users? Why would many users even be sharing the same environment or even the same OS X account? There's benefit somewhere?
Re: multiple installs one database
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.07.10 14:02, schrieb John Snippe: On 8-Jul-10, at 6:43 AM, MB wrote: That could be said, however this is ruling out PowerMail as a client IMHO as the IMAP-support is very basic. But this does depend on the amount of traffic of course. I do check webmail accounts with more sporadic traffic via IMAP in PowerMail Yes, that's an option I am looking at. We have Squirrel on the server... but it's REALLY not pwermail, is it?!? Squirrel is like Roundcube a Webmail frontend for Cyrrus or Dovecot IMAP Server. This has nothing to do with Powermail. I wonder if environments will help with the corruption issue... it could limit database access to a 'one user - multiple points of access' situation, which would stop update collisions and that inherent risk of corruption. Yes/no? Environments are different databases in Powermail. That what you try to achieve is best done with IMAP. If you are having more than 1 mail-account, I'd look into different mailclients, like Apple Mail or Thunderbird for that. Powermail was imho not really designed as a IMAP frontend, but as a POP Mailclient. The clear GUI and the well designed search function of Powermail is uncompareable to other mail clients, but if you need to extensivly work with IMAP and/or PGP PM is not the best choice. cheers Matthias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMNdhKAAoJEA4R31O3DV249DwH/32bLOLWByV48T/TcnEmYOjK SmDU94ZufD5uhK/7uehhsAfUuyL65eLBdy2pF6F2X/oyEfjxqMu1amUDm0p8ejVd NotqrYJkJ+oIf2G/djEgpd3zbtPCZCgI8Zv6I5VA7mcqdoG5U/HeItDvGc+IGjAj S4W9ovY8rsuJeOHmjvjXgWHPjjov7t9k4SKlc59QAGIgt+L5Uk2vzKebBHZBokPZ RIHOx7VaXDHydVtCl4M4LCImw64hlImXyPZ5mKy6ILoday63s5znw50my1mPrOuz LM3611jrNndQnq5jRpZlFxgjZR/GTHxseqgTn6/3X1gQw/aob6tHpLB4xdT71nM= =shEZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
multiple installs one database
I am needing to be able to access email and other files from various locations, and have set up a Dropbox account to facilitate that (1: http://www.dropbox.com )... it maintains sync of files placed in it's folder between various locations using the same account via internet. Totally transparent and very nice. So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder, and/or is it possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, or more specifically, is the database capable of autosave from multiple locations at the same time without corrupting? I ask this 'corruption' question because I already know, and it has been documented, that there is an issue in this regard using Dropbox with Filemaker, and we've had to take measures to ensure safety in that regard. Also: is it possible to have separate databases on a single install for different email accounts? Does this even make sense to you? It does to me, but I fear my explanation may be somewhat lacking... -- John Snippe 1: if this interests you, please sign in via this link... we both benefit: https://www.dropbox.com/link/39.3o5y9pUrUR?lk=7d217b1b71462635
Re: multiple installs one database
One word: IMAP. What you are trying is to adapt a single user database as multiple user database. Most likely this will work for a time and then will give you a nice and subtle corruption. IMAP was designed for this sort of problem. Regards Trixi Willius Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:07:31 -0400 Von: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca An: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com Betreff: multiple installs one database I am needing to be able to access email and other files from various locations, and have set up a Dropbox account to facilitate that (1: http://www.dropbox.com )... it maintains sync of files placed in it's folder between various locations using the same account via internet. Totally transparent and very nice. So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder, and/or is it possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, or more specifically, is the database capable of autosave from multiple locations at the same time without corrupting? I ask this 'corruption' question because I already know, and it has been documented, that there is an issue in this regard using Dropbox with Filemaker, and we've had to take measures to ensure safety in that regard. Also: is it possible to have separate databases on a single install for different email accounts? Does this even make sense to you? It does to me, but I fear my explanation may be somewhat lacking... -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
Re: multiple installs one database
Sorry, I can't help you with your first question. But regarding the second one: John Snippe j...@snippe.ca wrote (Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:07:31 -0400): Also: is it possible to have separate databases on a single install for different email accounts? Yes, by creating a new User Environment (in PowerMail's File/Database submenu). Kind regards, Tobias Jung
Re: multiple installs one database
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.07.10 14:07, schrieb John Snippe: I am needing to be able to access email and other files from various locations, and have set up a Dropbox account to facilitate that (1: http://www.dropbox.com )... it maintains sync of files placed in it's folder between various locations using the same account via internet. Totally transparent and very nice. So my question is two-fold: it is possible to have 3 or more installs of Powermail be able to access a single database folder, and/or is it imho this is possible as long as the different clients don't access the database in the same time. possible for more than one user to access a database folder at a time, I don't think so. For that you would need a client-server database, imho the PM database was not designed for that purpose. Maybe Jérôme can clarify that. or more specifically, is the database capable of autosave from multiple locations at the same time without corrupting? I ask this 'corruption' question because I already know, and it has been documented, that there is an issue in this regard using Dropbox with Filemaker, and we've had to take measures to ensure safety in that regard. why don't you use IMAP and shared folders for that? Also: is it possible to have separate databases on a single install for different email accounts? this is possible. You can change the environment from the file menu. cheers Matthias Does this even make sense to you? It does to me, but I fear my explanation may be somewhat lacking... -- John Snippe 1: if this interests you, please sign in via this link... we both benefit: https://www.dropbox.com/link/39.3o5y9pUrUR?lk=7d217b1b71462635 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMNHH/AAoJEA4R31O3DV24tZUH/09pjoNpsVFCAH5bv8fJ7J5M 4C4ZBuQhgQtKX7u98hRnHHdOUZs1vLJjgEYb9tK3BH55lIGAK3SgDs0ixFGLujMT Ddyil6+WQbC11p2/RqPL0Kq9oqaqES5s8h1u5mPqsR4+bWuk0MKtfoaZQr/edOaI PKKznji7DDsk7AaFNr8jIdrZB0BQ9mX6RAcGGN94nF5YANNLyHA6IuvETNljFfqg LwIvJM3ePuSuMSHYMS6WUK6Ms0+XjNAy+MqqwZMu9J0rZg5uq3MA4ZhZa5HfVymf vOdJbEi1AQIGs0uzyVNWDKFbpr+/UKq4wqCPfpHvVA0mNSUxUHJ4o62l17zlycE= =n8sX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Database error - PowerMail will not open, need help
After starting up my computer I launched PowerMail and my computer froze. Now when I try to open PowerMail I get the message A database error occurred. Clicking on More info gets me: Class: DB; what=7; when=9 Then when I click OK PowerMail quits. I am running PowerMail 5.5.3 build 4480, Mac OS 10.4.11. I cannot remember any key combinations to get PowerMail to try to fix the database, cannot find anything online and can't consult PM's help. Is there a fix? Thanks. - Winston (working from web mail - ugh!)
Re: Database error - PowerMail will not open, need help
Hold command and option keys down upon launch. You should get a database utilities dialog. I select all the options other than those that mess with my preferences. Knowing databases, I do the full low level rebuild and all options on my data file at least once a month. It may sound paranoid considering I have lots of backup, but having my email database messed up is not something I want to experience again. +---+ Bill Schjelderup, President b...@companioncorp.com COMPanion Corporation801-365-0555 voice 1831 Fort Union Blvd. 801-943-7752 fax Salt Lake City, Utah 84121-3041 www.companioncorp.com +---+ Nusquam est qui ubique est. - He who is everywhere is nowhere. This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are NOT the intended recipient, I'm sorry to bother you and will attempt to address my messages more carefully in the future. After starting up my computer I launched PowerMail and my computer froze. Now when I try to open PowerMail I get the message A database error occurred. Clicking on More info gets me: Class: DB; what=7; when=9 Then when I click OK PowerMail quits. I am running PowerMail 5.5.3 build 4480, Mac OS 10.4.11. I cannot remember any key combinations to get PowerMail to try to fix the database, cannot find anything online and can't consult PM's help. Is there a fix? Thanks. - Winston (working from web mail - ugh!)
Re: Database error - PowerMail will not open-FIXED (for now)
OK, found the option-command key startup option. Compacting the database appears to have fixed it. Fingers crossed... Maybe this will finally get me to upgrade to v.6 Thanks. - Winston Winston Weinmann wrote: After starting up my computer I launched PowerMail and my computer froze. Now when I try to open PowerMail I get the message A database error occurred. Clicking on More info gets me: Class: DB; what=7; when=9 Then when I click OK PowerMail quits. I am running PowerMail 5.5.3 build 4480, Mac OS 10.4.11. I cannot remember any key combinations to get PowerMail to try to fix the database, cannot find anything online and can't consult PM's help. Is there a fix? Thanks. - Winston (working from web mail - ugh!)
PM6 corrupt database
Greetings-- This is not a disaster, as I have a backup from 3 weeks ago. However, it would be very nice if I could recover this file. The computer crashed just as I had received some mail, and it was strange, so I was not surprised that it corrupted the file. When I try to open the db, it says the file has not the expected format and offers me a chance to convert 5.5 files but of course this doesn't work. I see in past messages something about Salvage but this doesn't appear to be there anymore, so I'm assuming it doesn't work with PM6...? Any other ideas on getting into that file? Thanks very much. --Anna PM 6.0.2, OS10.4.11, PowerMac G4
Re: PM6 corrupt database
Anna Silliman wrote at 2:41 PM (-0500) on 6/22/09: I see in past messages something about Salvage but this doesn't appear to be there anymore, so I'm assuming it doesn't work with PM6...? Any other ideas on getting into that file? Thanks very much. I'm the maintainer of PMSalvage; I recently have been updating my web site, albeit in a patchwork fashion, so some pages have temporarily moved and the PMSalvage page got orphaned. It is here (for the moment): http://www.zygoat.ca/oldwebsiteparts/products/pmsalvage/ I meant to put in a re-direct for the time being, but I forgot. Will do that shortly. Anyway, as you will see, I haven't had the opportunity yet to complete an update for PM 6 compatibility. It requires more work than before (mainly due to having to account for PPC vs. x86 endian-ness issues in both my development environment as well as the PM 6 database format itself), so I haven't gotten it done yet. However it is still on my to- do pile and I will try to bring it closer to the top! -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca
Re: PM6 corrupt database
Recently, Ben Kennedy wrote: I'm the maintainer of PMSalvage; I recently have been updating my web site, albeit in a patchwork fashion, so some pages have temporarily moved and the PMSalvage page got orphaned. It is here (for the moment): http://www.zygoat.ca/oldwebsiteparts/products/pmsalvage/ I meant to put in a re-direct for the time being, but I forgot. Will do that shortly. Anyway, as you will see, I haven't had the opportunity yet to complete an update for PM 6 compatibility. It requires more work than before (mainly due to having to account for PPC vs. x86 endian-ness issues in both my development environment as well as the PM 6 database format itself), so I haven't gotten it done yet. However it is still on my to- do pile and I will try to bring it closer to the top! -ben -- Ben Kennedy (chief magician) zygoat creative technical services http://www.zygoat.ca Hi, Ben--Thanks very much for your response! I did take a look at it; it finds 0 messages in that db for now, of course, but it looks promising. I hope you will post a note here when the update is off your to-do pile! It looks like something worth having. Best wishes, Anna
Re: database problems
Unfortunately this didn't work. Is there anything else I can try? Ron - Original Message - From: PowerMail Engineering jer...@ctmdev.com Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:22 am Subject: Re: database problems To: PowerMail discussions powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com H Ronald Riggs wrote: My computer crashed and now it says Your database file has not the expected format and it asks if I want to convert it. But conversion fails. Any help would be very helpful. Thanks. First, make a backup of your PowerMail database folder. Then press the command and option keys while launching PowerMail, and try some of checkboxes of the first group. If that does not help, try to remove the Address Database file from your PowerMail folder (in case your message database file is safe but another database file is corrupted), and relaunch PowerMail. If you still can't start PowerMail, and an Address Database.old file is also present, remove it also. Then you can try the same thing for the Server-side Database or Setup Database. Then, if a Message Database.old file is present in the backup you just made, remove the Message Database and Message Database.old file from your current folder, and replace them with a copy of the Message Database.old file from the backup, and remove the .old extension. Jérôme - CTM Engineering
Re: database problems
H Ronald Riggs wrote: My computer crashed and now it says Your database file has not the expected format and it asks if I want to convert it. But conversion fails. Any help would be very helpful. Thanks. First, make a backup of your PowerMail database folder. Then press the command and option keys while launching PowerMail, and try some of checkboxes of the first group. If that does not help, try to remove the Address Database file from your PowerMail folder (in case your message database file is safe but another database file is corrupted), and relaunch PowerMail. If you still can't start PowerMail, and an Address Database.old file is also present, remove it also. Then you can try the same thing for the Server-side Database or Setup Database. Then, if a Message Database.old file is present in the backup you just made, remove the Message Database and Message Database.old file from your current folder, and replace them with a copy of the Message Database.old file from the backup, and remove the .old extension. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - FABULOUS PRODUCT ! Wonderful ! A real Spotlight Killer ! I'm now able to locate content in documents that I KNEW was there but Spotlight couldn't find. FoxTrot Personal Search is far more efficient and displays a preview of the file when you hiighlight it. Janie Angus, Nevada Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch -
database problems
My computer crashed and now it says Your database file has not the expected format and it asks if I want to convert it. But conversion fails. Any help would be very helpful. Thanks. Ron
Re: Can't compact database
Joe Hallett wrote: I am unable to run the archive and cleanup or compact database commands. The process appears to start normally, but after a short time it stops with the error message A database error occurred Class=DB ;what=100;when=9;err=158 If this error occurs during the export phase, a part of your database is probably corrupted. You can run archive and cleanup in multiple steps, to copy as much messages as possible to a new, clean database: - Select one folder (or a few folders), then search in the selected folders only for messages whose date received is older than 0 day. - then run archive and cleanup for all messages from the search result window, and import the archived message to a new PowerMail User Environment. Do not try to delete the archived messages or compact the corrupted database at this stage. - repeat these steps with a different set of folder until you are done, importing them to the same user environment. - if a specific folder can't be exported successfully, only export its oldest (or most recent) messages, by adjusting the date in the search dialog - instead of archiving folder by folder, you may prefere to search messages only by date, or by account etc… If some messages are archived multiple times, they will only be imported once to the archive. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - FoxTrot is enormously superior to Spotlight. (...) Much more efficient than Spotlight in narrowing down search results to highlight just the ones you want. (...) Absolutely first class product. FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch -
Can't compact database
I am unable to run the archive and cleanup or compact database commands. The process appears to start normally, but after a short time it stops with the error message A database error occurred Class=DB ;what=100;when=9;err=158 I'm running PM v6.0.2 build 4601. The message database is about 1.5GB I would like to troubleshoot this problem and archive old messages, creating a smaller and up to date database without losing my folder structure and filters. Is this posible? How? Thanks. Joe Hallett -- Joe Hallett - Independent Writer on Technologies and Applications
Re: How to retrieve messages from old Message Database?
Raphaël PAREJO wrote: I've saved in 2000 my messages (Powermail 3), but only the Message Database file... Can i retrieve these messages with only this unique Message Database file? Probably. - create a new folder in the Finder - put a copy of your PM3 message database file in this folder - switch user environment (menu file / database) and select this folder - After PowerMail 6 has converted it, you can export the messages to the PowerMail Exchange format, and import them to your current database If PM 6 has troubles to convert directly a message database from PM3, it may be necessary to open it with PM4 or PM5, which can be downloaded from: http://www.ctmdev.com/download/earlier_versions_archive.html. Jérôme - CTM Engineering - Foxtrot Professional Search has rapidly become an almost indispensable tool in day to day work... FoxTrot Professional Search user comment Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch -
How to retrieve messages from old Message Database?
Hello! I've saved in 2000 my messages (Powermail 3), but only the Message Database file... Can i retrieve these messages with only this unique Message Database file? Thank you for your help. Best regards. -- Raphaël Parejo
Re: Database issues
Derry Thompson sa såhär: All backed up clean. no file system errors? Are you 100% sure about this? What tools have you used to make sure the drive's file system actually is clean and can be trusted? Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: Database issues
Jeremy Hughes sa såhär: What version of PowerMail are you using? According to the ctmdev web site: Low-level rebuild was broken after the 5.6.2 porting to XCode 3.0 - this was apparently fixed in 5.6.3 or 5.6.4 (not sure which). That is actually in the headers of every message originating from a copy of PowerMail, as here in Derry's : X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.6.3 build 4504 English (intel) The low level rebuild was fixed in 5.6.3: from the message [ANN] PowerMail 5.6.3 universal released POWERMAIL 5.6.3 RELEASE NOTES - MARCH 2ND, 2008 Main changes + Low-level rebuild was broken after the 5.6.2 porting to XCode 3.0 - fixed -- Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: Database issues
Jeremy Hughes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Thu, 15 May 2008 14:07:11 +0100 What version of PowerMail are you using? According to the ctmdev web site: Low-level rebuild was broken after the 5.6.2 porting to XCode 3.0 - this was apparently fixed in 5.6.3 or 5.6.4 (not sure which). I'm using 5.6.4 Cheers -- Derry
Re: Database issues
CTM info sa såhär: Afterwards, the one file that you can safely delete is Message Database index and then try rebuilding this. Wait a minute. Didn't you say earlier in another conversation that deleting the Message Database index file and rebuilding a new one from scratch will not result in a complete search index? Please clarify, as I have had tremendous problems with my indexes for years after deleteing that file a couple of times. Lately, though rebuilding seems to have finally resulted in a usable index, but I'm not sure what I did and would like to know. As most likely many others would as well. Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: Database issues
Hi, Am/On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100 schrieb/wrote Derry Thompson: I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed. this has always worked for me in the worst case. I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails. this sounds like a disk issue. This hard drives was brand new in Jan 2008. No issues with the drive that I can see. Did you check your disk with disk utilities? Mayne :) Can you copy it on the terminal level - probably not, if the Finder won't do. No, doesn't copy any which way. I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight) and see if that works. this will probably also fail. For the worst case there is a special recovery utility for the PowerMail database: http://www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/ That doesn't work with the newer database format though. Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without any search capability. Any other ideas? got a backup? Yep :) Cheers -- Derry Thompson g l o d e r w o r k s | Design - Hosting - Programming http://www.gloderworks.com + 44 (0) 1562 631430 t + 44 (0) 7976 802487 m
Re: Database issues
Derry Thompson (14/5/08, 15:59) said: I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed. What version of PowerMail are you using? According to the ctmdev web site: Low-level rebuild was broken after the 5.6.2 porting to XCode 3.0 - this was apparently fixed in 5.6.3 or 5.6.4 (not sure which). Jeremy
Re(2): Database issues
You can also try to export parts of your database in Powermail format. For the part that cannot be exported, try Powermail Salvage. Before you restore your email, backup all your files and clean up your drive: file system and possibly hardware errors. Jan
Database issues
Hi, My MacBook locked up ealier today and had to force a restart. PowerMail said it needed to reindex the mail. It got nearly to the end then froze up. I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed. I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails. I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight) and see if that works. Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without any search capability. Any other ideas? Cheers -- Derry
Re: Database issues
Hello, Am/On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:59:43 +0100 schrieb/wrote Derry Thompson: I've tried a low-level rebuild, a database compact both of which failed. this has always worked for me in the worst case. I can't copy the mail database, it gets to 1.04 GB of 1.64GB and fails. this sounds like a disk issue. Did you check your disk with disk utilities? Can you copy it on the terminal level - probably not, if the Finder won't do. I'll try an export of the entire database later (I'll run it overnight) and see if that works. this will probably also fail. For the worst case there is a special recovery utility for the PowerMail database: http://www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/ Powermail seems to be working ok on the damaged database, albeit without any search capability. Any other ideas? got a backup? cheers, Matthias
Totally rebuild Message Database index
I ask again for ideas on how to make PowerMail rebuild the search index, i.e. the Message Database index, in such a fashion that the whole DB is and remains fully indexed. Obviously I tried compacting and updating it, also via the startup tools and this seems to not have helped. Searches do not bring up expected results. Do I really have to do a low level rebuild of the whole DB in this type of situation or alternatively export every little folder and start a new DB in order to attain this? Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6 build 4497 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.5 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB
Re: filesalvage powermail database
Data RescueII is King! Give it a try. http://www.prosofteng.com/ In the meantime Stop using that hard drive! You'll just make it less likely to recover your files. Hope this helps. Best, Dave Nathanson Mac Medix in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), DDV's message of 12:59 PM, 1/2/08 hello, does anybody have experience with recovering a powermail database from an emptied trash? i tried with filesalvage, but this only recognizes usual file types such as jpgs, word docs, etc. a powermail database doesn't have any extension (as far as i can tell), which makes it even more difficult to trace it. data rescue, any experience? thanks, ddv
filesalvage powermail database
hello, does anybody have experience with recovering a powermail database from an emptied trash? i tried with filesalvage, but this only recognizes usual file types such as jpgs, word docs, etc. a powermail database doesn't have any extension (as far as i can tell), which makes it even more difficult to trace it. data rescue, any experience? thanks, ddv
Export contact to a database
Guy, - All of my PM contacts are stored into groups. - I need to reimport contacts with their groups into a custom database (on a PC) Do you have a script to export group by group? Thank you Bertrand Soubeyrand --- SOUBEYRAND Consultant Tél. : 04 91 28 38 17 - Mobile : 06 0800 38 20 eMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Site web : http://www.soub.org/ --- - Conseil informatique - Création sur mesure de logiciels - Web, Mise en pages automatisée === ENVOYEZ DES CENTAINES DE SMS EN 2 CLICS SOURIS ! Contrôle SMS : solution d'envoi automatisé de SMS Site web : http://www.controle-sms.com
Re: Your database file has not the expected format
I am away for a few weeks, maybe more, and will not available by; email; telephonic instrumentation; text, electronic, telepathic or any other sort of messaging. I will reply to carrier-pigeon (or pelican for that matter) messages ONLY! If this is of the utmost importance, you will be able to seek out our telephone number and call us. Someone will be able to assist you, but it ain't gonna be me... I'm going fishin' regards... Steve I got this lovely message when starting PowerMail 5.5.3 this afternoon. After clicking OK, PowerMail starts up and the database opens, seemingly without problems. I've been using 5.5.3 since it came out; no recent disk errors or crashes. I can't compact the database; PowerMail gives the same error and wants to convert the database to PowerMail 5 format, but can't, of course, since it's already in PowerMail 5 format. It gets an unknown error; Class = Conv, what = 1, when = 0. I can rebuild, since the Your database file has not the expected format error comes up. Has anybody seen and fixed this error before? Brian
Re: Your database file has not the expected format
Subject: Re: Your database file has not the expected format From: Marlyse Comte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:05:56 -0500 I had the exact same error today after a computer crash. After the message it stated also that my Index file was corrupt and if I wanted to re-index, which I did. The crash cost me todays email but else all seems now fine, I did not come across any further errors as you describe. Did you try launching PM in maintenance mode? Anyways, before fiddling any further with the database, I'd make a backup copy of what you have currently... just in case. ---marlyse I made several backups right after the message appeared. ;) I was finally able to get recovery to come up; doing everything but a low level rebuild fixed the problem. Brian
Your database file has not the expected format
I got this lovely message when starting PowerMail 5.5.3 this afternoon. After clicking OK, PowerMail starts up and the database opens, seemingly without problems. I've been using 5.5.3 since it came out; no recent disk errors or crashes. I can't compact the database; PowerMail gives the same error and wants to convert the database to PowerMail 5 format, but can't, of course, since it's already in PowerMail 5 format. It gets an unknown error; Class = Conv, what = 1, when = 0. I can rebuild, since the Your database file has not the expected format error comes up. Has anybody seen and fixed this error before? Brian
Re: Your database file has not the expected format
I had the exact same error today after a computer crash. After the message it stated also that my Index file was corrupt and if I wanted to re-index, which I did. The crash cost me todays email but else all seems now fine, I did not come across any further errors as you describe. Did you try launching PM in maintenance mode? Anyways, before fiddling any further with the database, I'd make a backup copy of what you have currently... just in case. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I got this lovely message when starting PowerMail 5.5.3 this afternoon. After clicking OK, PowerMail starts up and the database opens, seemingly without problems. I've been using 5.5.3 since it came out; no recent disk errors or crashes. I can't compact the database; PowerMail gives the same error and wants to convert the database to PowerMail 5 format, but can't, of course, since it's already in PowerMail 5 format. It gets an unknown error; Class = Conv, what = 1, when = 0. I can rebuild, since the Your database file has not the expected format error comes up. Has anybody seen and fixed this error before? Brian
Database corrupt
using PM 5.2.2. on OSX4.8 PM Database size 5.4 GB Powermail crashed and then I had a kernel panic. After reboot PM announces a corrupted database. I restarted with modifier key to rebuild the database. PM begins the process but shortly PM crashes again and again. What else can I do to get back my database? Thanks for helpful hints
Re: Database corrupt
Urs Gruetzner sa såhär: Powermail crashed and then I had a kernel panic. After reboot PM announces a corrupted database. I restarted with modifier key to rebuild the database. PM begins the process but shortly PM crashes again and again. What else can I do to get back my database? Remove the addressbook and see if that helps. It may be corrupt and the mail DB not. There is also PowerMail Salvage as a last resort. No backups? Mikael Tech facts: PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD
Database
I'm getting a message when opening Powermail. Database is not the expected format Any ideas? Cheers -- Derry Thompson g l o d e r w o r k s | Design - Hosting - Programming http://www.gloderworks.com + 44 (0) 1562 631430 t + 44 (0) 7976 802487 m
PowerMail quitting unexpectedly, unable to create/open database
Jerome: Disk verified; no problem there. PM was working for a while then suddenly unexpectedly quit again; now cannot reopen. Following your advice, I have tried to remove message db, address db, setup and server-side db from PowerMail Files but I find I cannot do so. When moving to anothr folder, they simply copy. It is impossible to try to reopen PM to see which, if any, is corrupted. What can you suggest? I did manage to export some folders to the PM Exchnge format but PM quit before I could import them to a new database. I'llhold them until able. Judith Beiss OS X 4.3.6 PM 5.2.2, Power Mac G4
Re(2): Database Rebuild FAILED
This leads me to believe that perhaps the root of this could be a single bad email. I agree strongly with this assumption. The only time I've ever had a problem with PM was when I had 1 bad HTML message and I could no longer index and PM would constantly crash and I was not able to rebuild cleanly etc. To solve the problem I archived my PM database folder for folder until I had gotten rid of that specific message and ever since PM does again great. ---marlyse
Re: Database Rebuild FAILED
Amnon Yaish said: I told you I checked the fonts and found them sound. PowerMail uses the default system fonts for chinese, and I checked the same fonts are also used by other programs. This is no proof they are sound. How are you checking it? What do you know about font corruption? A more reasonable approach would be to replace the fonts from original media and see if the problems go away. PM 5.2.2 Swedish | OS X 10.3.9 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Re: Database Rebuild FAILED
On Jan 23, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Andy Fragen wrote: Agreed. But my experience differs. I've never had an unfixable db error with PM and I've been using it since v3 Andy, I also have had PM since v.3 and until Sunday had not encountered a problem that PM could not recover. An interesting side note, and one that really disturbs me, is that just prior to the PM failing to compress with DB errors my account on my OS X server mail server became corrupt and had to be recovered by doing a rebuild on the server. Since I use PM in pop mode for this account, the server only has messages on it for a very short period of time (the build up between checks and logins). This leads me to believe that perhaps the root of this could be a single bad email. As to PowerMail Salvage, I purchased it--given how long it took to run through just 1% of the DB, I didn't want to have run the tool twice since you have to quit to enter the purchase key, and then start the salvage all over again. PMS has been running on my system for over 24 hours, and so far it it reports that his recovered 219,798 messages in 825 folders. The progress bar shows about 10% left to go. Of course until I actually am able to finish the salvage and export the recovered emails, I won't be sure this has worked, but things are looking good. A suggestion to anyone in my shoes. Buy the license key for PMS before running the salvage all the way through once on a large DB. You will just have to start it from scratch again once you get the license key. Second, do the salvage on desktop system and not on a laptop. I have had to drive to and from work with the powerbook open on the passenger seat to keep the salvage running. I would guess that the beefier the machine, the better. Thanks for the feedback from everyone. Robert
Re: Database Rebuild FAILED
Mikael Byström wrote: What's your excuse for not having backed up your DB? And may I ask what's your excuse for being so agressive? I *did* backup my DB. I did not say PM was expensive. However it is a paying client in a world of many good free ones, so I think I'm entitled at least to reliability, not to say proper tech support. I used PM for years without problems and gladly paid upgrades among other reasons to support diversity on my platform of choice. It also used to be quite good software. However I think something has stopped evolving, and it has become unstable and unreliable. I can assure you I tried everything, including the options you suggested. My system is thoroughly checked and presents no problem. I also know precisely what - in my case at least - hangs PM : it cannot properly deal with certain chinese Unicode ranges, and the fallback mechanism for unfound characters seems badly implemented. I have definitely tested this, and also checked that other software (including browsers or mail clients like Thunderbird) do not react in the same manner. I'm also very dissatisfied with CTM's support in this case: At first they pretended that they could find nothing in the crash log I sent them, however when I pointed to the problem and insisted, they suddenly could see in it that it was related to some font problem, and quite easily suggested that I have some corrupt fonts. And when I took the time to explain and prove my point, they just disappeared from the radar screen - mute, nothing, not even the acknowledgment of having received the message, which could be automatic. The result: however much I tried, CTM has made me look into other mail clients, since the PM crashes definitely corrupt the DB making it totally unreliable, and therefore unusable. I certainly hope Robert Snyder has a backup and wish him good luck in his ordeal. Amnon. Mikael Byström wrote: At least you can try PowerMail Salvage and see if it finds your messages before you have to pay. If you think it's expensive, then you don't value your messages. What's your excuse for not having backed up your DB? PowerMail is not expensive, so you can't reasonably demand it should be included in the package we are paying for. Of course that would be nice, but I wouldn't expect it at the price level of PM. It's possible there are some problems with 10.4.x and PM 5.2.2, but I seriously doubt DB errors under Panther is a common experience. Have you also deleted the PowerMail pref files and the index? Have you verified your system regarding file system errors and permission settings? PM 5.2.2 Swedish | OS X 10.3.9 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Re: Database Rebuild FAILED
Amnon Yaish said: The situation described by Robert (and which I experimented all too often) should'nt ever happen, and if it happens, the tool to *try* and retrieve some of the messages in the corrupt database should be included in the package we are paying for, not paid (rather expensive) to a third party developer. Especially since the problem is evidently with PowerMail. At least you can try PowerMail Salvage and see if it finds your messages before you have to pay. If you think it's expensive, then you don't value your messages. What's your excuse for not having backed up your DB? PowerMail is not expensive, so you can't reasonably demand it should be included in the package we are paying for. Of course that would be nice, but I wouldn't expect it at the price level of PM. It's possible there are some problems with 10.4.x and PM 5.2.2, but I seriously doubt DB errors under Panther is a common experience. Have you also deleted the PowerMail pref files and the index? Have you verified your system regarding file system errors and permission settings? PM 5.2.2 Swedish | OS X 10.3.9 | Powerbook G4/400Mhz | 1GB RAM | 30GB HD
Re: Database Rebuild FAILED
Agreed. But my experience differs. I've never had an unfixable db error with PM and I've been using it since v3 -- Andy Fragen On Mon, Jan 23, 2006, Amnon Yaish said: The situation described by Robert (and which I experimented all too often) should'nt ever happen, and if it happens, the tool to *try* and retrieve some of the messages in the corrupt database should be included in the package we are paying for, not paid (rather expensive) to a third party developer. Especially since the problem is evidently with PowerMail. Amnon. Jean-Michel Therond wrote: Le 23 janv. 06 à 19:41, Robert Snyder a écrit : Hi, My database was nearing 2GB, so I tried to compress it, but that tailed with a database error. So I tried to perform a low level database rebuild, but that failed. HELP. This has all of my important data in it--licenses, serial numbers, job histories, etc. Is there any way to extract data from the database? How can I get PowerMail to launch again--it keeps failing with a database error when I try to launch it. As the low level rebuild doen't do the job, you may consider trying a third party software such as PowerMail Salvage. http://www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/ HTH, Jean-Michel
Re: Database Rebuild FAILED
Le 23 janv. 06 à 19:41, Robert Snyder a écrit : Hi, My database was nearing 2GB, so I tried to compress it, but that tailed with a database error. So I tried to perform a low level database rebuild, but that failed. HELP. This has all of my important data in it--licenses, serial numbers, job histories, etc. Is there any way to extract data from the database? How can I get PowerMail to launch again--it keeps failing with a database error when I try to launch it. As the low level rebuild doen't do the job, you may consider trying a third party software such as PowerMail Salvage. http://www.zygoat.ca/products/pmsalvage/ HTH, Jean-Michel
Database Rebuild FAILED
Hi, My database was nearing 2GB, so I tried to compress it, but that tailed with a database error. So I tried to perform a low level database rebuild, but that failed. HELP. This has all of my important data in it--licenses, serial numbers, job histories, etc. Is there any way to extract data from the database? How can I get PowerMail to launch again--it keeps failing with a database error when I try to launch it. Robert Snyder
Re: Large Database
Thanks everyone for all the good advice! After religiously backing up my entire mail folder, I compacted my mail database. The entire process took about 15 minutes, much less than I had feared, and trimmed the database size from 1.9 GB to 481 MB. Yay! This gives me more breathing room before I'm forced to export older messages to a separate db. -- marco -- It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation. They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
Re: Large Database
Watch for line breaks. Disclaimer: I don't deserve credit for this
script. Unfortunately I don't remember who does. :-(
Andy
applescript
property preMsg : You currently have: return
property postcC : Message folders
property postfC : Message Filters
property postclC : Text Clippings
property postsigC : Signatures
property postMsgs : Messages
property bttnList : {Thanks, Put on Clipboard}
property defBttn : Put on Clipboard
to concatenateData(cCnt, fCnt, clCnt, sigCnt, ctMsg)
return (preMsg ctMsg postMsgs return cCnt postcC return
fCnt postfC return clCnt postclC return sigCnt postsigC)
end concatenateData
to displayTotals(statsTxt)
set the dialogBttn to the button returned of (display dialog statsTxt
buttons bttnList default button 2)
if the dialogBttn is the defBttn then
set the clipboard to the statsTxt
beep
end if
end displayTotals
tell application PowerMail
set the containerCnt to count message container
repeat with i from 1 to containerCnt
set subContainerCnt to count message containers of message
container i
set containerCnt to containerCnt + subContainerCnt
end repeat
set the filterCnt to count filters
set the clipCnt to count text clippings
set the sigCnt to count text signatures
set ctMsg to 0
repeat with acontainer in every message container
set ctMsg to ctMsg + (my count_messages(acontainer))
end repeat
set the statsTxt to my concatenateData(containerCnt, filterCnt,
clipCnt, sigCnt, ctMsg)
my displayTotals(the statsTxt)
end tell
-- The above will count your PowerMail; message folders, filters, text
clippings
-- and the text signatures and display the information in a dialog.
-- The dialog will give you an option to put the entire results
-- onto the clipboard.
(* this recursive function receives a message container (folder). It first
calls itself for every sub-container of the input container, summing up
the number of messages stored in them, and last, adds the number of
messages in the input container itself.
*)
to count_messages(input_container)
tell application PowerMail
set c to 0
repeat with bcontainer in every message container in
input_container
set c to c + (my count_messages(bcontainer))
end repeat
set c to c + (number of messages in input_container)
return c
end tell
end count_messages
/applescript
--
Andy Fragen
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005, Sean McBride said:
Jim Pistrang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-12-26 16:44 said:
Just curious, what is the total number of emails in your database? I
Is there an easy way to tell? I have so many folders looking at each
and adding them would be a pain. :)
--
I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is
only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. - Gandhi
Re: Large Database
Jim Pistrang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-12-26 16:44 said: Just curious, what is the total number of emails in your database? I Is there an easy way to tell? I have so many folders looking at each and adding them would be a pain. :) -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. - Gandhi
Re: Large Database
Hi Marco, I've been using PowerMail for a more than two years now, and I've become totally addicted to the FoxTrot search feature. I use FoxTrot to instantly find interesting threads in a handful of technical mailing lists that I don't have the time to read day to day, but keep archived for later reference. One of this lists has accumulated in excess of 38,000 messages. Today, for the first time, it looks like I hit some hard limit, because the following dire warning popped up: Your database is near 2 GB Just curious, what is the total number of emails in your database? I have over 40,000 and my database is at 150mb. Unless you have a huge number of emails, there may be something else going on here. I recommend that you first make a copy of your database, then try to compact it. Jim -- Jim Pistrang JP Computer Resources Certified Member, Apple Consultants Network 413-256-4569 http://users.crocker.com/~pistrang
Large Database
I've been using PowerMail for a more than two years now, and I've become totally addicted to the FoxTrot search feature. I use FoxTrot to instantly find interesting threads in a handful of technical mailing lists that I don't have the time to read day to day, but keep archived for later reference. One of this lists has accumulated in excess of 38,000 messages. Today, for the first time, it looks like I hit some hard limit, because the following dire warning popped up: Your database is near 2 GB PowerMail can't handle a message database larger than 2 GB. You should compact your database, or export old messages and delete them from your database. So far I haven't really deleted any messages except spam, so I don't think compacting my database will help much except perhaps put off cleaning it out for a few more days. It sounds like the moment has come, but I really don't want to lose the ability to search old messages. What are my options? Can I export folders in a format that FoxTrot Personal Search can index? Are there any plans to support databases larger than 2 GB in a future version of PowerMail? With hard disks getting larger and cheaper by the day, two gigs look like a pretty small limit. -- marco -- It's not the data universe only, it's human conversation. They want to turn it into a one-way flow that they have entirely monetized. I look at the collective human mind as a kind of ecosystem. They want to clear cut it. They want to go into the rainforest of human thought and mow the thing down.
Archive Database?
I've asked this before, and haven't gotten a reply, so I'm trying again. The 5.2 release notes say: ? For users who have one or more inactive (archive) databases, open them with PowerMail 5.2 and reindex them; you will see that all of your current and archived mail can be searched in one go using Spotlight, whether or not the message is contained in your current mail database. What is an archive database? It it possible to use more than one database with PM at once? And how do I split my current database so that I can seperate my archived email? Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Searching in Replaced Database
time for maintenance: quit PM. launch PM with option-command keys down - reindex database. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - I had to erase my main drive due to problems unrelated to PowerMail. Re- installing PowerMail in the new setup I copied over the PM Database from a backup disk. Now, I cannot search this database. Any suggestions? Using 10.4.1 and PM 5.2. Thank you, Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- my life: http://www.marlyse.com my view: http://www.marlyse.com/myview my work: http://www.mStudios.com ---
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong. If the mail is older than a few month, all the attachments within PM display are grayed. ... I have not seen this. In fact, just for fun I went back a year and found my attachments to be selectable and in working order. It is possible that you both need to run some disk checks and/or permission utilities? I had a similar thing, but a long while ago. I wasn't switching my set-up around (e.g. transferring between multiple computers). I chalked it up to corrupt e-mails. Since then I've dropped using some addresses so I don't get as much spam. I haven't seen it recently. Chris --
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Bob, Yes, technically that accomplishes having the attachment somewhere else, but now you've got two copies of it. Not only is that inefficient in terms of storage, but if it's an editable document, you now have version control issues. Option-dragging does work, and it's great that the feature is there, but it's something to be used on occasion; I would not accept that as part of SOP daily workflow, which I *believe* is what Dr. Dave was talking about. And it still doesn't address the larger issue in this thread of PM losing connection with attachments even when they're not moved, and their being no way to repair or re-attach them when they loose that attachment. Respectfully, Steve On 5/4/05 at 10:38 PM, Bob Moody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: == Dr Dave, thank you for your message. = ***REPLYING TO YOUR MESSAGE QUOTED BELOW. REPLY IS ABOVE YOUR MESSAGE*** REPLY: Single click on the attachment icon at the bottom of PM window. Option drag this icon off the corner of the email message to the lower left hand corner of the desktop. Now you still have the attachment in the attachments folder, attached to the message.Plus you have a copy on the desktop to put anywhere. Wed, 4 May 2005 10:46:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Sure. If I rename an attachment, or move several attachments together into a folder; they lose connection from the email message that they come from. Pretty weak. I can't say for sure if my old emails (2004) lose their connections to the attached files by themselves or not, because I eventually group all the attachments together by year (at least) so as to keep the current attachments folder less cluttered easier to find recent attachments. Best, Dave Nathanson Mac Medix in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Steve Abrahamson's message of 9:44 AM, 5/4/05 On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong. I had to root through the Attachments folder manually to find the jpg I was looking for. This is not uncommon with older mail. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Steve Steve Abrahamson Ascending Technologies FileMaker 7 Certified Developer http://www.asctech.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
A-NO-NE Music wrote: Anyway, I have an idea. I move PM folder a lot. Between machines, carry with 2.5 drives, etc. This might be the source of problem. Since PM being a native Mac app, I'd think it is not using absolute path but rather using relative path, which should work, but it might not be when you duplicate the directory for backup purpose? Attachments received (or sent) with a version prior of PowerMail 5 are referred by a path relative to the attachment folder. So if they have been moved, or renamed, the connection is lost. Attachments received (or sent) with PowerMail 5.x are referred by an alias relative to the attachment folder. Aliases use both a file ID, and a path. If you move or rename the file, it is still found by ID. If you move your data to another machine, the ID is not preserved, but the file is still found by its path, if it has not been renamed. When you compact your database, or perform a verification of the consistency, attachment aliases are verified; if the path has changed but they are still found by ID, the path is update, and vice versa. So, it's a good thing to compact or verify your database from time to time, and especially before moving your database to another machine, to ensure that the attachment references are fully up to date. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - What amazes me is the content search, the foxtrot engine is amazing! I have about 100mb of emails and searches are instantaneous! Boh Heong Yap, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Tim Lapin / 2005/05/04 / 07:34 PM wrote: It is possible that you both need to run some disk checks and/or permission utilities? Not sure how it would help but I run these utils more than anyone else because of beta testings I do. Anyway, I have an idea. I move PM folder a lot. Between machines, carry with 2.5 drives, etc. This might be the source of problem. Since PM being a native Mac app, I'd think it is not using absolute path but rather using relative path, which should work, but it might not be when you duplicate the directory for backup purpose? -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: Steve Abrahamson / 2005/05/04 / 12:44 PM wrote: On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong. On a related note :-) If the mail is older than a few month, all the attachments within PM display are grayed. Nope, I didn't move them. I can find them in the attachment directory easily, but this can be time consuming if the file name is rather generic. I was kinda giving up on it, tho. -- - Hiro I have not seen this. In fact, just for fun I went back a year and found my attachments to be selectable and in working order. It is possible that you both need to run some disk checks and/or permission utilities? -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Dr Dave wrote:
because I eventually group all
the attachments together by year (at least) so as to keep the current
attachments folder less cluttered easier to find recent attachments.
I have created a simple AppleScript to create a folder for each email
that has attachments and move attachments there. This way, attachments
(at least have a higher chance) to keep the original file names and not
get inserted a number like in test.zip, test 1.zip etc. when during the
months, people send attachments with identical names.
I have this set to run as the first filter on *any* incoming message.
It sure can be optimized, but I'm no AppleScript scripter. I also copied
portions of the default Copy outgoing attachments script. Maybe it is
of use to someone:
--snip--
global theFolder
tell application PowerMail
set attachFolder to attachment folder
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
set msgStatus to status of msg
if (msgStatus is unread) or (msgStatus is confirmed) or
(msgStatus is
read) then
set attachList to attachments of msg
if (count items of attachList) 0 then
set theDate to time received of msg
set msgAttachFolder to
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder (year
of theDate)
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder -
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder (month
of theDate as number)
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder -
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder (day
of theDate as number)
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder
(((time of theDate) / 3600)
as integer)
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder -
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder
time of theDate) mod
3600) / 60) as integer)
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder
set senderAddress to sender of msg
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder (email
address of senderAddress)
set msgAttachFolder to msgAttachFolder
tell application Finder
if not (exists folder (attachFolder
msgAttachFolder as string)) then
set theFolder to (make new
folder at attachFolder with properties
{name:(msgAttachFolder as string)})
else
set theFolder to folder
(attachFolder msgAttachFolder as string)
end if
end tell
repeat with attachIdx from (count items of
attachList) to 1 by -1
set attachFile to file of (item
attachIdx of attachList)
tell application Finder
set newAttachFile to (move
attachFile to theFolder without
replacing) as alias
end tell
delete attachment attachIdx of msg
make new attachment at msg with
properties {file:(newAttachFile as
alias)}
end repeat
end if
end if
end repeat
end tell
--snip--
Regards, Christian.
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Sure. If I rename an attachment, or move several attachments together into a folder; they lose connection from the email message that they come from. Pretty weak. I can't say for sure if my old emails (2004) lose their connections to the attached files by themselves or not, because I eventually group all the attachments together by year (at least) so as to keep the current attachments folder less cluttered easier to find recent attachments. Best, Dave Nathanson Mac Medix in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Steve Abrahamson's message of 9:44 AM, 5/4/05 On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong. I had to root through the Attachments folder manually to find the jpg I was looking for. This is not uncommon with older mail. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Steve
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Steve Abrahamson / 2005/05/04 / 12:44 PM wrote: On a related not about file references, I've noticed over time that PM has lost file reference integrity. An example: I got pics from a ski trip from a friend; when I went back to find that picture, PM thought the enclosure was an html file - clearly wrong. I had to root through the Attachments folder manually to find the jpg I was looking for. This is not uncommon with older mail. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? On a related note :-) If the mail is older than a few month, all the attachments within PM display are grayed. Nope, I didn't move them. I can find them in the attachment directory easily, but this can be time consuming if the file name is rather generic. I was kinda giving up on it, tho. -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, A-NO-NE Music sent forth: I believe latest pub beta changed this behavior. Which version are you using? -- - Hiro From the header of Robert's message: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English BTW, I hope you are right about the fix. While I have never encountered this phenomenon, there is always a first time for everything. -- Tim Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Robert Snyder wrote: I have an odd situation where every time I rebuild my mail database, PowerMail opens four, network attached file systems. This will be fixed in 5.2. PowerMail will no longer try to mount networked/removable file systems when verifying attachment references. The attachments references are verified (and updated if needed), during a compact or a verification of the consistency of the database. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - PowerMail un excellent produit, très bien protégé et qui équipe ma boîte depuis deux ans... Tout le monde apprécie la qualité quasi sans failles de cette application professionnelle... PowerMail user comment on www.cuk.ch Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
Robert Snyder / 2005/05/04 / 08:29 AM wrote: I have an odd situation where every time I rebuild my mail database, PowerMail opens four, network attached file systems. While I have migrated my mail from various systems over the years, this situation is particularly odd since none of the file systems it opens could possibly have been systems I used my mail on. Typically, it happens during the verify consistency portion of the process. While it is usually just annoying, it becomes a real problem when I am trying to rebuild my database without a network connection. In that case, it keeps trying to open the file spaces and does not progress. How can I get this behavior to stop? It's not that. PM wants to see where the attachment you sent out. It tries to call up as many times as you had attachment on your network volumes. It does let you cancel out so it's not stuck. I believe latest pub beta changed this behavior. Which version are you using? -- - Hiro [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED] [PROTECTED]
Why does rebuilding database mount file systems?
I have an odd situation where every time I rebuild my mail database, PowerMail opens four, network attached file systems. While I have migrated my mail from various systems over the years, this situation is particularly odd since none of the file systems it opens could possibly have been systems I used my mail on. Typically, it happens during the verify consistency portion of the process. While it is usually just annoying, it becomes a real problem when I am trying to rebuild my database without a network connection. In that case, it keeps trying to open the file spaces and does not progress. How can I get this behavior to stop? Robert Robert Snyder, Director World Campus Data Management Services The Pennsylvania State University 105 Mitchell Building University Park PA 16802 Phone: 814-865-0912 Fax: 814-865-4406 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu
Re: PM 5 - database corrupted, no recovery? [u]
Stephen Grammont said: In the end it came down to an issue of stability. Mail has it, PM doesn't. I disagree with that blanket statement. I find PM very stable, but I had one irrecoverable situation when my old machine suddenly stopped (not froze, just physically stoppped), because of heat problems, while writing to the DB . I'm not sure how many DB apps could recover from that. I haven't heard that Mail is so stable as you suggest for keeping all data intact, but I suppose the one message one file concept helps a bit. What's really needed is a built in incremental backup feature. I tried to write a script, but found no way of moving between folders, so the only way would be to export only on basis of date. I do this by hand now. PM 5.1 | OS X 10.3.6 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD
Re: PM 5 - database corrupted, no recovery? [u]
Hi Stephen, In the end it came down to an issue of stability. Mail has it, PM doesn't. At least that is my experience, My experience is the opposite. If you use Apple Mail, be careful to archive your mail regularly to prevent your mailbox from growing too large. Otherwise you will lose mail randomly. I have 112,000 messages in my PowerMail database. I wouldn't trust Apple Mail with more than 50,000. Whatever email client you use, you should back up your mail regularly if it is important to you. Best wishes, Jeremy
Re(2): PM 5 - database corrupted, no recovery? [u]
Hi Steve, thanks for sharing your thoughts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:18:04 -0500 In the end it came down to an issue of stability. Mail has it, PM doesn't. did you verify? The various experiences in our company showed durign the past few years that many email clients begin to suffer from stability problems, at least once the amount of emails/data reaches a certain size. With Claris Emailer I hit the 1 GB barrier a few years ago (and actually switched to PowerMail, kind of overnight...). Microsoft products are a non-option to me (they are simply too flakey too often). Eudora was a nightmare on Mac last time I checked. Anyone tried Apple Mail long enought to accumulate hundreds of thousands of emails? And still see smooth behavior? And what about searching (a huge plus in PM)? At least that is my experience, although Jerome of CTM Dev certainly tried to help. By now I think if CTM could add maximum stability to PowerMail they'd have an email client that significantly differentiates itself from any other client. Olaf
PM 5 - database corrupted, no recovery? [u]
Hi folks I seem to be unable to recover from a database issue - no access anymore to my email database... Starting last Thursday I ran into database issues. After doing a 'compact database' (after PM 5.0 had warned me that I was coming close to the 2GB limit) the night before, when retrieving emails I got alerts saying: A database error occurred Class = 'DB '; what=100; when=9; err=158 Initially it showed up once, then twice then more and more (now seemingly indefinite number of times). I had to quit PM 5.0 (though it told some connection is still in progress? There wasn't any connection/process displayed) and upon starting it again PM 5.0 starting rebuilding the sort index, and after a few minutes showed the error message A database error occurred Class = 'DB '; what=100; when=100; err=493 OR (in retrospect I am not sure anymore) A database error occurred Class = 'DB '; what=100; when=9; err=158 Then I tried to do a low level database rebuild and got the error message: An error occurred while rebuilding the Message Database file. Clicking on More info I got: A database error occurred Class = 'DB '; what=100; when=100; err=493 As PM insists on doing a sort index build when launched - which fails with a database error - I am not in a position anymore to even access all my emails. I had done a backup of my PM 5 files right after compacting the message database, and made a copy of that and put that copy on my hard disk, then just started to retrieve all my messages again. Right away I got the Class = 'DB '; what=100; when=9; err=158 error again repeatedly. Next I made a copy of the PM 5 files folder, and trashed the Message Database and the Message Database Index (so I could keep all my set up but have no messages at all). Everything looked OK (except of course there weren't any messages), and then upon retrieving messages from my email account, right away I got the same Class = 'DB '; what=100; when=9; err=158 error again - which is weird... Next I made a fresh environment, and retrieved my emails - which now went OK. Problem is, I still neither have access to my emails from the last years nor can I use the setup (hundreds of folders and filters) anymore. Some info about my context: - Mac OS X 10.3.4, 1GB RAM, 5 GB free disk space, 12 PowerBoook, SpamSieve installed - database has probably some 250.000 messages and a size of 1.2 GB (after compacting from nearly 2GB last Wednesday night) - several hundred folders - a few hundred filters - on my most relevant POP account close to 4.000 messages are waiting to be retrieved (I leave them on the server for two weeks) - the database (I assume that's the server side database) is in a state where it says it needs to retrieve about 1.000 out of those 4.000 emails (as the other 3.000 had already been retrieved previously) BTW - I have also tried all of the above with most recent 5.1 version of PM as available today on the CMTdev website. Until today I had been using 5.0 though. Any advice more than appreciated - I am seriously stuck. Olaf Druemmer
ARRGGHH - more database issues
OK-- After finally getting a new drive for my PB G4 (the internal had gone bad SMART status failing), I am tryign to get PM up and running again. I have downloaded and installed 5.1 and registered it. Then I copied over my powermail files and launched, holding down optapple to get the PM first aid. I checked all the options, and it ran through everything fairly successfully until it was almost done with Checking COnsistency... at which point it hung for a while and then gave me: An error occurred while opening user's files Uncaught exception type any help much appreciated. M
Re: Help! Trouble with compacting database
This problem is fixed with release 5.1. The download I got from the PM 5.1 main download link (faster), namely, http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/ctm/pm5.dmg gives me a PowerMail _5.0.2_ folder and a PowerMail _5.0.2_ app inside. Labeled that way anyhow. Didn't run it to find out. Tried both last night on receiving the e-mail announcement and just now (12:15 pm at -5 GMT or so). Chris --
Re: Help! Trouble with compacting database
C.S. Mo wrote: I'm running PowerMail 5.1 under MacOSX 10.2.8, PowerMail recently crashed because my mail database reached 2048mb. I've tried compacting the database, but I just get a message that There is only 2048mb free, 2079mb required.. This problem is fixed with release 5.1. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I wouldn't trade my MAC for anything, neither would I trade PowerMail for anything. Steve Tarpin, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: powermail-discuss Digest Database Error
I can not use the program now because every time I start it, I get a message rebuilding indices... so I wait until just before it is finished I get Database error Your mail is probably safe. Try holding down the command and option keys the next time you start PM. This brings up the option dialog to rebuild various things. Check all of them, including the Low Level rebuild. If this does not correct the problem, write back. --Ira
DATABASE error
Hi -- I'm a registered user of PM 5.0.2, and have been very happy until recently... I can not use the program now because every time I start it, I get a message rebuilding indices... so I wait until just before it is finished I get Database error more details... provides the following Class = DB what = 5 when = 9 err=36 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please tell me I haven't lost all my emails! thanks in advance Mano
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Kjell Olausson said: They are. An application that crashes should not affect other applications. I have one recurring problem involving the Finder and problems with Network volumes. The Finder keeps spinning the beachball and kill commands in the dock or in the terminal, doesn't work. That's kind of amazing. This particular problem started in Jaguar (often) and now in Panther (less often). I also have changed 3 machines since so it's not RAM or hardware problem. It's a real OS X problem. PM 5.0.1 | OS X 10.3.5 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768 MB RAM | 30 GB HD
Re(3): First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Urs Gruetzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for this helpful hint, it resolved the problem! What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. They are. An application that crashes should not affect other applications. But you are talking about command keys and they can be picked up by any application that listens for such commands. -- Regards, Kjell Olausson http://www.kio.nu Alingsås, Sweden There's too much blood in my caffeine system.
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Emily Jackson wrote: Good idea would be to contact DT's author (James is pretty good at responding). He has addressed this problem on the DragThing message board (http:// www.dragthing.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=23). The workaround he suggests is to change DragThing's preferences (change Advanced-Update Application Icons to Never). He seems to think the problem is with PM's AppleScript handling. This problem is fixed in PowerMail 5.0.2 and 5.1b1. Best regards Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - I've recently switched from Entourage X and I want to say that PowerMail is really slick. Small, fast and versatile. Andy Fragen, PowerMail user Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
RE: Re(2): First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 15:26 Uhr Mirko Kranenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] That seems to be a very plausible explanation! Future releases of DragThing and/or PowerMail should handle the matter more gracefully, though. But: the support for PowerMail by Dragthing is in itself a very good thing, as way too many apps focus on Mail and Entourage only. Mirko On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:19:11 -0400, C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. I thought it was that the newer version of DragThing messages PowerMail to get a count of unread messages in the inbox to display in its docks, and that disrupts the First Aid recovery somehow. I don't think it interacts any other way. Yes that seems to explain the reason why. BTW DragThing - as excellent as it is - has another little drawback in combination with ReadIris 9.0, if someone uses this app too: when launching ReadIris from DT ReadIris does not display his working window, the application remains unusable. A normal launch from finder does not show this problem. Good idea would be to contact DT's author (James is pretty good at responding). Regards, Alex Newman
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
That seems to be a very plausible explanation! Future releases of DragThing and/or PowerMail should handle the matter more gracefully, though. But: the support for PowerMail by Dragthing is in itself a very good thing, as way too many apps focus on Mail and Entourage only. Mirko On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:19:11 -0400, C. A. Niemiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. I thought it was that the newer version of DragThing messages PowerMail to get a count of unread messages in the inbox to display in its docks, and that disrupts the First Aid recovery somehow. I don't think it interacts any other way. Chris --
Re: First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. I thought it was that the newer version of DragThing messages PowerMail to get a count of unread messages in the inbox to display in its docks, and that disrupts the First Aid recovery somehow. I don't think it interacts any other way. Chris --
Re(3): First Aid/Compact Database crashing...
Dienstag, 28. September 2004 18:56 Uhr Pat O'Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that on 28/9/04 at 5:22 pm Urs Gruetzner spake thus: It seems that several users have the same problem reported, but I newer saw any help posted here. Did I miss something during my absence last week? Urs Mine was resolved by switching off DragThing - if you have that installed try disabling it. Thanks for this helpful hint, it resolved the problem! What bothers me now: I always thought, that in OSX all the applications are working in their own areas of the RAM. That fact that the presence of one affects another app is somewhat irritating. Urs
