Re: CS>DMSO Safety

[Lena Guyot]

Once upon a time, I would have taken this DMSO document seriously, but there 
has been so much experience (mine and others') proving otherwise, that I'm glad 
I dared to discover its real possibilities in spite of dire industrial 
warnings. Yes, it was scary to deliberately include it in my CS drops, but the 
CS drops alone hadn't been able to get into the vitreous where the uveitis was 
causing trouble and the addition of DMSO carried its benefits where they were 
needed.
 Just as there are all sorts of writings about the dangers of CS 'turning 
people blue', thus scaring and depriving people of an amazing healing tool, I'm 
glad I wasn't daunted by the dire warnings about DMSO. I literally have 'skin 
in the game' and have benefited from my daring.

I never recommend, but I do share my experience, always with caveat emptor, and 
I correspondingly profit by others' experiences, by my own choosing. That's how 
these groups have furthered very beneficial solutions to heretofore insoluble 
problems.

Be well,
Léna
On Jan 5, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:

> 
> Use CS in pure state.
> 
> Anything added is counterproductive.
> 
.
> 
> https://www.dmso.com/PDF/MSDS.pdf

Re: CS>DMSO Safety

[Aaron Gannon]

Phil, you seem to know a lot. Is sovereign silver like the brand pictures
here pure CS? If not Is it at least effective?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> Use CS in pure state.
>
> Anything added is counterproductive.
>
> https://www.dmso.com/PDF/MSDS.pdf
>

Re: CS>DMSO

[MaryAnn Helland]

That would be a *tack* store.  Or a feed store.  Or a farm store.  Bottles of 
DMSO will be on the shelves of any of these -- and it's unlikely that anyone 
will ask any questions about why you're buying it -- there's nothing illegal 
about buying it.

Incidentally -- frequently you'll find roll-on DMSO, and jars of DMSO gel right 
alongside the bottles of the liquid.  Both of these products are great for use 
on sore, arthritic joints.
MA



From: Tel Tofflemire 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Mon, November 5, 2012 4:41:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO




Look for a TAC Store,It is a store that handles feed grain and Horse 
supplies. 


Say your horse is coming up kinda lame,  if they ask you what you want it for.
That is all you need to say.

Tel Tofflemire



From: Harold 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: CS>DMSO


Anybody know of a Canadian supply source for DMSO?
TIA,

Harold

Re: CS>DMSO & Horses

[Tel Tofflemire]

Thanks Sandee, 

Just telling it like it is, Some of these Feed sellers think they are the DMSO 
police, I have bought it for years at a tac shop... Never got asked "what you 
using it for"?? 

but some do.  I will say that arthritis is slain by DMSO,,,keep reading, in the 
early stages, but after you have had it for 40 years it is sort of ...not good 
enough ! But may help and is worth a try.

Tel Tofflemire



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Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO & Horses
 
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Take good care
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Re: CS>DMSO & Horses

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Re: CS>DMSO

[Tel Tofflemire]

Look for a TAC Store,It is a store that handles feed grain and Horse 
supplies. 

Say your horse is coming up kinda lame,  if they ask you what you want it for.
That is all you need to say.

 
Tel Tofflemire



 From: Harold 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: CS>DMSO
 

Anybody know of a Canadian supply source for DMSO?
TIA,
 
Harold

Re: CS>DMSO Question ? Gout

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 10/11/2012 6:42:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

 
You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I  have 
done this for years.
Good luck.
PT


 

 From: Jane MacRoss  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57  AM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO  Question

By all means use the DMSO (I  seriously don't think there is much 
difference between the brands)  but  also try warm/hot water with fresh lemon 
juice 
in the morning - a litre  if possible & before food - and drink any cherry 
juice at all for the  gout. 
 
Jane

 
 
From: _Paul Steel_ (mailto:pste...@yahoo.com)  


I  have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Was  think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this  70% DMSO Gel
_http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html_ 
(http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html) 

Anyone  know if this would be as effected and safe to use  instead??

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Jane MacRoss]

But don't spend extra on health products as any cherry juice at all cures it 
.
  - Original Message - 
  From: PT Ferrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:10 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question


  You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I have 
done this for years.
  Good luck.
  PT




--
  From: Jane MacRoss 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question


  By all means use the DMSO (I seriously don't think there is much difference 
between the brands)  but also try warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the 
morning - a litre if possible & before food - and drink any cherry juice at all 
for the gout. 

  Jane


From: Paul Steel 


I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this 70% DMSO Gel
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??

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Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Paul,
I've used this brand. It's good, but pricey for chronic use. I get DMSO from my 
local Feed'n'Seed,(for about 1/4 price) then combine with aloe vera gel I get 
in a tube at our Natural Food Store.
Glycerine is supposed to be drying, too, but in the original Brooks mix, it was 
used to soften the skin and I never noticed it having a drying effect. I made 
large bottles of the mix and then decanted them to my small roll-ons. (nice to 
have them scattered about for whenever, wherever I need them)
Now, I'm using the 50/50 DMSO and Aloe gel, and that seems to work very well. 
More DMSO than that, and the less exposed, more tender skin, like the back of 
knee, seems to get itchy and irritated. But we're all different.

Be well,
Léna
  
On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Paul Steel wrote:

> Lena
> 
> Maybe i try this
> http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-aloe-plastic-4oz.html
> 
> Thanks for all the info:)
>  
> Paul Steel
> h 508.520.6905
> c 508.922.0519
> The harder you work the luckier you get!
>  
> 
> From: Lena Guyot 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question
> 
> Hi Paul, 
> The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 
> 50/50 with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
> There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. 
> Great for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
> Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to 
> find for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that 
> are pretty effective, too.
> If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
> smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:
> 
>> I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
>> 
>> Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
>> this 70% DMSO Gel
>> http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
>> 
>> Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
>> 
>> Thanks All
>>  
>> Paul Steel
>> h 508.520.6905
>> c 508.922.0519
>> The harder you work the luckier you get!
>>  
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Paul Steel]

Lena

Maybe i try this
http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-aloe-plastic-4oz.html

Thanks for all the info:)

 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 



 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question
 

Hi Paul, 
The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 
with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great 
for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find 
for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are 
pretty effective, too.
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

Be well,
Léna




On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
>
>Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
>this 70% DMSO Gel
>http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
>
>Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
>
>Thanks All
> 
>Paul Steel
>h 508.520.6905
>c 508.922.0519
>The harder you work the luckier you get!
>
> 

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Zoe W]

Brooks wrote recently that they are now  using aloe gel instead of the 
glycerine.
zoe



 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:55
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question
 

Hi Paul, 
The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 
with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great 
for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find 
for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are 
pretty effective, too.
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

Be well,
Léna




On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
>
>Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
>this 70% DMSO Gel
>http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
>
>Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
>
>Thanks All
> 
>Paul Steel
>h 508.520.6905
>c 508.922.0519
>The harder you work the luckier you get!
>
> 

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[jaxi]

http://royalfarmsinc.com/cherries.htm

This is my favorite.  I used to be able to buy it locally but now I just
order directly them.

Jaxi

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:10 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I have
> done this for years.
> Good luck.
> PT
>
> --
> *From:* Jane MacRoss 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>DMSO Question
>
> By all means use the DMSO (I seriously don't think there is much
> difference between the brands)  but also try warm/hot water with fresh
> lemon juice in the morning - a litre if possible & before food - and drink
> any cherry juice at all for the gout.
>
> Jane
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Steel 
>
> I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
>
> Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw
> this 70% DMSO Gel
> http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
>
> Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
>
>

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[PT Ferrance]

You can purchase cherry juice concentrate at a health food store.  I have done 
this for years.
Good luck.
PT





From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 7:58:57 AM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question

 
By all means use the DMSO (I seriously  don't think there is much difference 
between the brands)  but also try  warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the 
morning - a litre if possible  & before food - and drink any cherry juice at 
all 
for the gout. 

 
Jane
 
> 
>From: Paul Steel 
>
>
>Ihave some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
>
>Wasthink about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
>this70% DMSO Gel
>http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
>
>Anyoneknow if this would be as effected and safe to use  instead??
>

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Paul, 
The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 
with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier.
There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great 
for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay.
Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find 
for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are 
pretty effective, too.
If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, 
smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on.

Be well,
Léna



On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote:

> I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
> 
> Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
> this 70% DMSO Gel
> http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
> 
> Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??
> 
> Thanks All
>  
> Paul Steel
> h 508.520.6905
> c 508.922.0519
> The harder you work the luckier you get!
>  

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Paul Steel]

Thanks Jane

Will try this...Like right now :)


 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 



 From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO Question
 

 
By all means use the DMSO (I seriously 
don't think there is much difference between the brands)  but also try 
warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the morning - a litre if possible 
& before food - and drink any cherry juice at all for the gout. 
 
Jane
 
> 
>From: Paul Steel 
>
>
>I  have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.
>
>Was 
  think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw this 
  70% DMSO Gel
>http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html
>
>Anyone 
  know if this would be as effected and safe to use 
instead??
>

Re: CS>DMSO Question

[Jane MacRoss]

By all means use the DMSO (I seriously don't think there is much difference 
between the brands)  but also try warm/hot water with fresh lemon juice in the 
morning - a litre if possible & before food - and drink any cherry juice at all 
for the gout. 

Jane


  From: Paul Steel 


  I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well.

  Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw 
this 70% DMSO Gel
  http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html

  Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead??

Re: CS>DMSO - MSM

[Lena Guyot]

Glad. Hope it's helpful. L
On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Melly Bag wrote:

> Lena,
>  
> Thank you for posting Marc's reply to my question.  I am grateful for this 
> new information.
>  
> Take care.
>  
> Melly

Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Your welcome.  Thanks for making such a superior product.  :)  Lola

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> Tel Tofflemire
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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[Tel Tofflemire]

Your order is on the way Lola, Thanks a lot !
Tel Tofflemire
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[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Funny you should mention those little cards.  When you asked the
question as to what material my lens were made out of, I looked all
over for my cards before answering you.  I can still see them in my
mind's eye and could have sworn they were stuck back in my wallet
somewhere but I couldn't find them.  I don't know if I have stuck them
somewhere else or..  finally got rid of them.  I don't think I would
do that so... I have them tucked away somewhere, I guess.

I couldn't remember whether it mentioned what material the lens is
made out of or what and I tried to find out what material was in
common usage back 15 yrs ago and had no luck.  I will keep on looking.
 Maybe in my jewelry box??  Just don't know.  Life was so simple when
I first got married.  We had no junk back then..lol.. Amazing how much
'stuff' we accummulate over the years, right? Lola

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM, sol  wrote:
> I was given a little card for each eye that states that I have implanted
> lenses and also gives details of the size of lens, the mfr, and says what
> model they are, even the power of the lenses, and each one has a serial
> number. Maybe this is just something other eye surgeons don't bother with,
> but I assumed this kind of card has always been given to everyone who has
> ever undergone cataract surgeryI carry my cards in my purse with the
> card about my dental implant.
> sol
>
>
>
> phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:
>>
>> To be honest, I have no clue what substance my lens were made out of.
>> The surgeries were done in  1998/1999   so  whatever was prevalent
>> back then is what was used.  The surgeries were done at a top eye
>> surgical facility in Richmond, Va.  so they would have used the
>> material that was commonly available back then, I assume.  I couldn't
>> find a definitive answer.   Lola
>>
>>
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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[sol]

I was given a little card for each eye that states that I have implanted 
lenses and also gives details of the size of lens, the mfr, and says 
what model they are, even the power of the lenses, and each one has a 
serial number. Maybe this is just something other eye surgeons don't 
bother with, but I assumed this kind of card has always been given to 
everyone who has ever undergone cataract surgeryI carry my cards 
in my purse with the card about my dental implant.

sol


phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

To be honest, I have no clue what substance my lens were made out of.
The surgeries were done in  1998/1999   so  whatever was prevalent
back then is what was used.  The surgeries were done at a top eye
surgical facility in Richmond, Va.  so they would have used the
material that was commonly available back then, I assume.  I couldn't
find a definitive answer.   Lola

  



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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

To be honest, I have no clue what substance my lens were made out of.
The surgeries were done in  1998/1999   so  whatever was prevalent
back then is what was used.  The surgeries were done at a top eye
surgical facility in Richmond, Va.  so they would have used the
material that was commonly available back then, I assume.  I couldn't
find a definitive answer.   Lola

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:10 AM, sol  wrote:
> phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:
>>
>> I have been using DMSO for a few months now and.. I had cataract
>> surgery some 15 yrs ago.  I have used DMSO on my trunk, arms, legs,
>> etc (I have arthritis). And, I drink about a tsp or so per day.  I
>> haven't noticed any changes to my eyesight.  I also have an breast
>> implant and had the same concerns for that that you have for your lens
>> but so far, so good.   This is not to necessarily give a stamp of
>> approval to using DMSO but, if my experience is any encouragement, you
>> might feel better about using DMSO sparingly but maybe not around the
>> head or eyes.  Lola
>>
>>
>
> Lola,
>  Do you know what material your lens implants are made of? I think the two
> possible materials I have read about are silicone and acrylic.
> thanks,
>
> sol
>
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[sol]

phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:

I have been using DMSO for a few months now and.. I had cataract
surgery some 15 yrs ago.  I have used DMSO on my trunk, arms, legs,
etc (I have arthritis). And, I drink about a tsp or so per day.  I
haven't noticed any changes to my eyesight.  I also have an breast
implant and had the same concerns for that that you have for your lens
but so far, so good.   This is not to necessarily give a stamp of
approval to using DMSO but, if my experience is any encouragement, you
might feel better about using DMSO sparingly but maybe not around the
head or eyes.  Lola

  

Lola,
 Do you know what material your lens implants are made of? I think the 
two possible materials I have read about are silicone and acrylic.

thanks,
sol


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[phoenix23002 tds.net]

I have been using DMSO for a few months now and.. I had cataract
surgery some 15 yrs ago.  I have used DMSO on my trunk, arms, legs,
etc (I have arthritis). And, I drink about a tsp or so per day.  I
haven't noticed any changes to my eyesight.  I also have an breast
implant and had the same concerns for that that you have for your lens
but so far, so good.   This is not to necessarily give a stamp of
approval to using DMSO but, if my experience is any encouragement, you
might feel better about using DMSO sparingly but maybe not around the
head or eyes.  Lola

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:19 PM, sol  wrote:
> MaryAnn Helland wrote:
>>
>> Dan -- what is a "lense"?
>> MA
>
> MaryAnn,
>  Dan was referring to an earlier post of mine where I mentioned my concern
> about using DMSO because of my implanted replacement eye lenses (cataract
> surgery). DMSO dissolves acrylics and my implanted lenses are
> acrylic...and I've been unsuccessful in getting a definitive answer
> about whether DMSO can get through body tissues to the lenses in sufficient
> concentration to damage them. The risk may be vanishingly small, but any
> risk of having to have the cataract surgery re-done is a huge concern to me.
> I'm still not sure I did the right thing to have it in the first place. And
> had I realized or considered I would not be able to use DMSO following the
> surgery, I probably would have waited MUCH longer, much, much longer.
>
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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[MaryAnn Helland]

Oh -- OK -- thanks Sol.  
MA





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Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 12:19:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> Dan -- what is a "lense"?
> MA
MaryAnn,
Dan was referring to an earlier post of mine where I mentioned my concern about 
using DMSO because of my implanted replacement eye lenses (cataract surgery). 
DMSO dissolves acrylics and my implanted lenses are acrylic...and I've been 
unsuccessful in getting a definitive answer about whether DMSO can get through 
body tissues to the lenses in sufficient concentration to damage them. The risk 
may be vanishingly small, but any risk of having to have the cataract surgery 
re-done is a huge concern to me. I'm still not sure I did the right thing to 
have it in the first place. And had I realized or considered I would not be 
able 
to use DMSO following the surgery, I probably would have waited MUCH longer, 
much, much longer.
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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess/ Sol

[sol]

sol wrote:

Did try straight DMSO with no improvement.
Should add I only applied it oncefrankly afraid to keep on with 
it because of the risk, however slight, to the acrylic replacement 
lenses in my eyes.

sol


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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess/ Sol

[mgperrault]

Prospec MI paste will remineralize.  There are others too.  Not the 
"perfect" ingredients but it builds the tooth back enough to stop the 
sensitivity


On 2/14/2012 11:15 AM, sol wrote:

zzekel...@aol.com wrote:


Hi sol, I wonder if different kinds of soap work differently ??
Hmm, I have been using the same brand of soap for years, but I don't 
think it is the brand I actually started out with (which is no longer 
in memory).

Dan uses soap made from soap nuts.
Hmm, again. I've never used soap nuts, for tooth brushing or for 
anything else.
Just curious--- glad I'm not a cat-- "curiosity killed the cat.."   
Maybe I'd be the lucky cat.--"Satisfaction brought it back--"  
grin---I did read on the germkiller site that the "minizilla"which is 
used for many face / tooth  problems is made with two C batteries 
taped together... { the double A worked for me...}
I am keeping all the "zilla" info and may try one at some point, 
though I do not think there is infection involved with this tooth, 
there is just a very very thin space between the gum and the top of 
the cap, just about enough to get a fingernail into or the tip of a 
toothpick or dental tool (OUCH to all 3!).


Did try straight DMSO with no improvement.
I'm currently trying myrrh essential oil.(because I have 
it)..seems to help a little (tincture) may try it neat and see if 
that works better, but again, I don't think there is any infection, so 
why an antibiotic type essential oil would do anything is unclear.

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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[sol]

MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Dan -- what is a "lense"?
MA

MaryAnn,
 Dan was referring to an earlier post of mine where I mentioned my 
concern about using DMSO because of my implanted replacement eye lenses 
(cataract surgery). DMSO dissolves acrylics and my implanted lenses are 
acrylic...and I've been unsuccessful in getting a definitive answer 
about whether DMSO can get through body tissues to the lenses in 
sufficient concentration to damage them. The risk may be vanishingly 
small, but any risk of having to have the cataract surgery re-done is a 
huge concern to me. I'm still not sure I did the right thing to have it 
in the first place. And had I realized or considered I would not be able 
to use DMSO following the surgery, I probably would have waited MUCH 
longer, much, much longer.

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[sol]

zzekel...@aol.com wrote:


Hi sol, I wonder if different kinds of soap work differently ??
Hmm, I have been using the same brand of soap for years, but I don't 
think it is the brand I actually started out with (which is no longer in 
memory).

Dan uses soap made from soap nuts.
Hmm, again. I've never used soap nuts, for tooth brushing or for 
anything else.
Just curious--- glad I'm not a cat-- "curiosity killed the cat.."   
Maybe I'd be the lucky cat.--"Satisfaction brought it back--"  
grin---I did read on the germkiller site that the "minizilla"which is 
used for many face / tooth  problems is made with two C batteries 
taped together... { the double A worked for me...}
I am keeping all the "zilla" info and may try one at some point, though 
I do not think there is infection involved with this tooth, there is 
just a very very thin space between the gum and the top of the cap, just 
about enough to get a fingernail into or the tip of a toothpick or 
dental tool (OUCH to all 3!).


Did try straight DMSO with no improvement.
I'm currently trying myrrh essential oil.(because I have 
it)..seems to help a little (tincture) may try it neat and see if 
that works better, but again, I don't think there is any infection, so 
why an antibiotic type essential oil would do anything is unclear.

sol


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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[MaryAnn Helland]

Dan -- what is a "lense"?
MA





From: Dan Nave 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 13, 2012 9:35:39 PM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

Put some DMSO topically directly on this tooth where it is sensitive.
It is not going to be high enough concentration to affect your
lense...

Dan

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM, sol  wrote:
> zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  For sensitive teeth-- Brush with soap--- My son had terrible sensitive
>> teeth-{ cold & hot-}  I told him about the Brooks Bradley report I read on
>> the CS site & he tried it-- Brushed at night & in the morning---No more
>> sensitivity !!! He couldn't believe it..Been almost a year now.. Here is the
>> Brooks report. { He is a scientist researcher.} Save Your Teeth and Be Well!
>> Brooks B <http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm>
>>  Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm
>>
> Just my personal experience-I have been brushing my teeth with soap for
> umpteen years, and it has not helped with tooth sensitivity at all.
> CS rinsing post brushing helps, and helped tremendously years ago, but it
> doesn't help with this particular tooth. I will have my dentist check it
> again at my next appt.
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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess/ Sol

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 2/13/2012 10:35:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:

Just my  personal experience-I have been brushing my teeth with soap for
>  umpteen years, and it has not helped with tooth sensitivity at all.
> CS  rinsing post brushing helps, and helped tremendously years ago, but it
>  doesn't help with this particular tooth. I will have my dentist check  it
> again at my next appt.
>  sol
>



Hi sol, I wonder if different kinds of soap work differently ?? Dan uses  
soap made from soap nuts. Just curious--- glad I'm not a cat-- "curiosity 
killed  the cat.."   Maybe I'd be the lucky cat.--"Satisfaction brought it  
back--"  grin---I did read on the germkiller site that the "minizilla"which  is 
used for many face / tooth  problems is made with two C batteries taped  
together... { the double A worked for me...}

Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

 I have 99.9% DMSO is that the one to use?  Thanks in advance. dee


On 14 Feb 2012, at 03:35, Dan Nave wrote:

> Put some DMSO topically directly on this tooth where it is sensitive.
> It is not going to be high enough concentration to affect your
> lense...
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM, sol  wrote:
>> zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>  For sensitive teeth-- Brush with soap--- My son had terrible sensitive
>>> teeth-{ cold & hot-}  I told him about the Brooks Bradley report I read on
>>> the CS site & he tried it-- Brushed at night & in the morning---No more
>>> sensitivity !!! He couldn't believe it..Been almost a year now.. Here is the
>>> Brooks report. { He is a scientist researcher.} Save Your Teeth and Be Well!
>>> Brooks B 
>>>  Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm
>>> 
>> Just my personal experience-I have been brushing my teeth with soap for
>> umpteen years, and it has not helped with tooth sensitivity at all.
>> CS rinsing post brushing helps, and helped tremendously years ago, but it
>> doesn't help with this particular tooth. I will have my dentist check it
>> again at my next appt.
>> sol
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Re: CS>DMSO cure for sensitive teeth & Abscess

[Dan Nave]

Put some DMSO topically directly on this tooth where it is sensitive.
It is not going to be high enough concentration to affect your
lense...

Dan

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM, sol  wrote:
> zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  For sensitive teeth-- Brush with soap--- My son had terrible sensitive
>> teeth-{ cold & hot-}  I told him about the Brooks Bradley report I read on
>> the CS site & he tried it-- Brushed at night & in the morning---No more
>> sensitivity !!! He couldn't believe it..Been almost a year now.. Here is the
>> Brooks report. { He is a scientist researcher.} Save Your Teeth and Be Well!
>> Brooks B 
>>  Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm
>>
> Just my personal experience-I have been brushing my teeth with soap for
> umpteen years, and it has not helped with tooth sensitivity at all.
> CS rinsing post brushing helps, and helped tremendously years ago, but it
> doesn't help with this particular tooth. I will have my dentist check it
> again at my next appt.
> sol
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Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[jaxi]

It works.  I will second that recommendation.  I have several zillas around
the house.  A 6V lantern battery one (Godzilla) and a couple of smaller
ones using I think it was C batteries (Godrods I think he called them).
You can tape two C batteries together for a 3V minzilla.  I like the
minizilla for face stuff.  The 6V can cause eye flashes sometimes - which
while apparently not harmful are a bit disturbing.

Jaxi

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, sol  wrote:

> Thanks Bob,
>  I will look into it. Sounds promising.
> sol
>
>
> Bob Banever wrote:
>
>> Sol,
>>
>>   Make yourself or buy a Godzilla and treat your sensitive tooth and roots
>> with a small amount of DC electricity, no more than 6 volts but even half
>> that will work.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for
>> info...
>> you can buy all the parts for about $10.  It's simple and effective... the
>> electricity will kill any bacteria in or on the tooth or root and quickly
>> stop pain and sensitivity.  Works like nothing else I've saved myself
>> thousands in potential root canal therapy by using this device.  It stops
>> cavities in their tracks!  All you need are batteries (do NOT us 9 volt
>> batteries... its too much juice and potentially dangerous), two insulated
>> wires, sponges, elastic bands.  You can even use one flashlight battery
>> and
>> solder the wires to either end, using the other ends to apply to the
>> tooth.
>> Even this small amount of electricity works.  Make sure you get the
>> schematics or directions from the group.  Good luck.
>>
>>
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[sol]

zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
  For sensitive teeth-- Brush with soap--- My son had terrible 
sensitive teeth-{ cold & hot-}  I told him about the Brooks Bradley 
report I read on the CS site & he tried it-- Brushed at night & in the 
morning---No more sensitivity !!! He couldn't believe it..Been almost 
a year now.. Here is the Brooks report. { He is a scientist 
researcher.} Save Your Teeth and Be Well! Brooks B 

Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm


Just my personal experience-I have been brushing my teeth with soap 
for umpteen years, and it has not helped with tooth sensitivity at all.
CS rinsing post brushing helps, and helped tremendously years ago, but 
it doesn't help with this particular tooth. I will have my dentist check 
it again at my next appt.

sol


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[sol]

Thanks Bob,
 I will look into it. Sounds promising.
sol

Bob Banever wrote:

Sol,

   Make yourself or buy a Godzilla and treat your sensitive tooth and roots
with a small amount of DC electricity, no more than 6 volts but even half
that will work.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info...
you can buy all the parts for about $10.  It's simple and effective... the
electricity will kill any bacteria in or on the tooth or root and quickly
stop pain and sensitivity.  Works like nothing else I've saved myself
thousands in potential root canal therapy by using this device.  It stops
cavities in their tracks!  All you need are batteries (do NOT us 9 volt
batteries... its too much juice and potentially dangerous), two insulated
wires, sponges, elastic bands.  You can even use one flashlight battery and
solder the wires to either end, using the other ends to apply to the tooth.
Even this small amount of electricity works.  Make sure you get the
schematics or directions from the group.  Good luck.
  



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[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 2/12/2012 11:58:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
ewestf...@ardmore.net writes:

Well, if  you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
sensitive  teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper 
varities) will  help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed 
nerves.   (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other)   
AnitaW




Hi, Here is a bit on teeth --1. I had a real bad abscess --I  made a 
mini-godzilla { I sent the plans to the electric germ killer  site}  
{_germkiller  
sign in_ 
(http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&sec=group&slk=1)
   }  Used a  double A 
battery--Got  about 6  inches of wire { I used an old lamp cord & tore it in 
half 
}  cleaned  both ends { about 1/2 inch } --- soldered  one wire to the  
positive end of the battery & the other wire to the negative  end.  I put a 
small piece of cotton cloth around the other bare end of  each wire { used 
thread to tie it in place }  I soaked the cloth in  water & put one end in my 
mouth as close to the abscess  as I could get  it & the other wire on the 
outside of my mouth on the swelling. Held it for  5 mins & then reversed the 
wires-- { inside one -out & outside one in.}  & held for 5 mins.  I did this 3 
times & the abscess was gone &  hasn't returned
  For sensitive teeth-- Brush with soap--- My son had  terrible sensitive 
teeth-{ cold & hot-}  I told him about the Brooks  Bradley report I read on 
the CS site & he tried it-- Brushed at night &  in the morning---No more 
sensitivity !!! He couldn't believe it..Been almost a  year now.. Here is the 
Brooks report. { He is a scientist researcher.} _Save Your Teeth and Be  Well! 
Brooks B_ (http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm) 
Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm

RE: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Bob Banever]

Joyce,

 

   Thanks for the reply.  If I do have problems I will certainly try
stopping the powder.  

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: Joyce Miller [mailto:jmillerwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

 

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bob Banever 
wrote:
I've been using cinnamon flavored tooth powder from Eco Dent for many years
with no problems whatsoever.  Cinnamon is strongly anti-bacterial and a
beneficial spice for cancer as well.

Bob,

The topic of this thread is sensitive gums and then tea tree oil.

I think, as with so many things, that what works for one may not work for
all. I am glad you have had no problems with cinnamon. But I did research
this as well as listening to the woman who has cleaned my teeth for 24
years, and what I found confirmed a common issue with cinnamon and gums. I
too had been using it for some time to make my toothpaste: I stopped and
turned to ginger instead after I heard and verified what cinnamon can do to
gums -- also checked that ginger is safe with both the tech and my own
research. 

At least, knowing about this, if you should ever have painful gums, Bob, you
now know what to drop.

Joyce Miller

 



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RE: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Bob Banever]

Sol,

   Make yourself or buy a Godzilla and treat your sensitive tooth and roots
with a small amount of DC electricity, no more than 6 volts but even half
that will work.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info...
you can buy all the parts for about $10.  It's simple and effective... the
electricity will kill any bacteria in or on the tooth or root and quickly
stop pain and sensitivity.  Works like nothing else I've saved myself
thousands in potential root canal therapy by using this device.  It stops
cavities in their tracks!  All you need are batteries (do NOT us 9 volt
batteries... its too much juice and potentially dangerous), two insulated
wires, sponges, elastic bands.  You can even use one flashlight battery and
solder the wires to either end, using the other ends to apply to the tooth.
Even this small amount of electricity works.  Make sure you get the
schematics or directions from the group.  Good luck.

Bob

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From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

Dan Nave wrote:
> I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
> it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
> DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
> disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
> apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
> used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
> area of the gums and teeth roots.
>
> I would appreciate it if anyone with sensitive teeth roots would try
> this and report the results back.
>   
Hmmm, Since my cataract surgery (acrylic lens implants--DMSO dissolves 
some or all acrylics--I cannot find out what kind of acrylic my implants 
are made of) I have avoided using DMSO at even very low 
concentrationsbut this may be worth the risk. Mostly plain CS 
used as mouthwash after brushing keeps my exposed tooth roots from being 
too sensitive. However I have one spot that remains excruciating. Can 
barely even floss it. I've been thinking about having that tooth pulled 
to tell the truth.

I'd be extremely interested to know how long the desensitization from 
the single application lasts.
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[Joyce Miller]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bob Banever wrote:
I’ve been using cinnamon flavored tooth powder from Eco Dent for many years
with no problems whatsoever.  Cinnamon is strongly anti-bacterial and a
beneficial spice for cancer as well.

Bob,

The topic of this thread is sensitive gums and then tea tree oil.

I think, as with so many things, that what works for one may not work for
all. I am glad you have had no problems with cinnamon. But I did research
this as well as listening to the woman who has cleaned my teeth for 24
years, and what I found confirmed a common issue with cinnamon and gums. I
too had been using it for some time to make my toothpaste: I stopped and
turned to ginger instead after I heard and verified what cinnamon can do to
gums -- also checked that ginger is safe with both the tech and my own
research.

At least, knowing about this, if you should ever have painful gums, Bob,
you now know what to drop.

Joyce Miller




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RE: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Bob Banever]

I've been using cinnamon flavored tooth powder from Eco Dent for many years
with no problems whatsoever.  Cinnamon is strongly anti-bacterial and a
beneficial spice for cancer as well.

 

Bob

 

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From: Joyce Miller [mailto:jmillerwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

 

Sodium Laurel Sulphate should be avoided like the plague! 

There should also be warnings on the toothpastes that use cinnamon to flavor
the toothpaste (according to the woman who cleans my teeth). Ginger, she
said, is fine; cinnamon is not. I don't remember what she said it does to
the teeth, but she chastised one of the reps from a toothpaste company about
bringing them toothpaste with cinnamon, and he said well, that is what
people like. She went right back and told him that the company needs to not
use stuff that can harm the teeth.

In one article, the Journal of the American Dental Association says that
cinnamon can sensitize and irritate the mouth and is highly caustic when
applied directly to our gums. Cinnamon irritates mucus membranes and the
mouth is a mucous membrane. It can cause inflammation in the mouth even
while killing bacteria in the mouth.
http://jada.ada.org/content/126/9/1214.1.full.pdf




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Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[mgperrault]

other things that might increase penetration

niaouli oil

papain

clove

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of bacteria using various dyes in combination with low level lasers. The 
most frequently used dye has been toluidine blue (TBO) and some of the 
microorganisms studied are streptococcus mutans (20) and staphylococcus 
aureus (21). The bactericidal effect of TBO is enhanced by low level 
laser light and the clinical implications of this combination in 
cariology and periodontology are indeed promising. Low level laser has 
also been shown to enhance the release of fluoride from  lacquers (22) 
and  resin cements (23).


-

indocyanine green is what brings a quick end to the harmful invaders. Or 
more specifically, what happens to the dye when it's activated by a 
near-infrared laser.


The effect is similar to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute's cancer 
killing nanoparticle treatment. When a laser, in this case a 500mW 
gallium-aluminum-arsenide near-infrared laser projecting at 808nm 
wavelength, is shined at a photosensitizer, the indocyanine green, it 
creates free radicals known as reactive oxygen species. These free 
radicals destroy bacteria by disrupting numerous parts of their physiology.


max

On 2/12/2012 9:49 AM, sol wrote:

Dan Nave wrote:

I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
area of the gums and teeth roots.

I would appreciate it if anyone with sensitive teeth roots would try
this and report the results back.
Hmmm, Since my cataract surgery (acrylic lens implants--DMSO dissolves 
some or all acrylics--I cannot find out what kind of acrylic my 
implants are made of) I have avoided using DMSO at even very low 
concentrationsbut this may be worth the risk. Mostly plain CS 
used as mouthwash after brushing keeps my exposed tooth roots from 
being too sensitive. However I have one spot that remains 
excruciating. Can barely even floss it. I've been thinking about 
having that tooth pulled to tell the truth.


I'd be extremely interested to know how long the desensitization from 
the single application lasts.

sol


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Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Joyce Miller]

Sodium Laurel Sulphate should be avoided like the plague!

There should also be warnings on the toothpastes that use cinnamon to
flavor the toothpaste (according to the woman who cleans my teeth). Ginger,
she said, is fine; cinnamon is not. I don't remember what she said it does
to the teeth, but she chastised one of the reps from a toothpaste company
about bringing them toothpaste with cinnamon, and he said well, that is
what people like. She went right back and told him that the company needs
to not use stuff that can harm the teeth.

In one article, the Journal of the American Dental Association says that
cinnamon can sensitize and irritate the mouth and is highly caustic when
applied directly to our gums. Cinnamon irritates mucus membranes and the
mouth is a mucous membrane. It can cause inflammation in the mouth even
while killing bacteria in the mouth.
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Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[ew]

Also, be sure to rub whatever you are using on your gums as well. Inside and 
outside the teeth. 

AnitaW

You might try oregano oil. 
Pat


From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:23 PM
Subject: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

ew wrote:
> Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
> sensitive teeth...
and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper varities) will help take 
care of
current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed nerves.  (Using both the Tea Tree 
and the
Sensodyne), one then the other)
> 
>  
I can't use tea tree oil at all, is there another essential oil that can do the 
same thing? I
AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
sol


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Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Pat Lawrie]

You might try oregano oil. 
Pat
 


 From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:23 PM
Subject: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots
  
ew wrote:
> Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
> sensitive teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper 
> varities) will help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed 
> nerves.  (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other)
> 
>  
I can't use tea tree oil at all, is there another essential oil that can do the 
same thing? I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
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[PTFerrance]

I think so.  I also heard someone say recently that there is now a health
hazard warning on some toothpastes because of the sodium laurel sulfate that
is in them.
I stopped using toothpaste years ago.  Miracle II soap works just fine for
me.
PT

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Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

DH had excrutiatingly sensitive teeth. Dentist recommended this special 
toothpaste for sensitive teeth.  Using it gave him the same pain as 
sweet things.  Studied the contents list, looked up on line - sorbitol 
is used to keep the paste moist.  My mother used to tell me as a kid 
that "they" put sugar in toothpaste to rot people's teeth, and I didn't 
believe her. Sixty years later I wonder if this is what she meant.
R

On 13/02/2012 2:23 AM, sol wrote:
>  I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
> sol
>
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Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Pat Lawrie]

I became sensitive to Sensodyne that I had been using for about a year. Of 
course it started AFTER I just bought a 3-pak!!!
Pat
 


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots
  
DH had excrutiatingly sensitive teeth. Dentist recommended this special 
toothpaste for sensitive teeth.  Using it gave him the same pain as sweet 
things.  Studied the contents list, looked up on line - sorbitol is used to 
keep the paste moist.  My mother used to tell me as a kid that "they" put sugar 
in toothpaste to rot people's teeth, and I didn't believe her. Sixty years 
later I wonder if this is what she meant.
R

On 13/02/2012 2:23 AM, sol wrote:
>  I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
> sol
> 
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Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Tony Moody]

I just tell my tastebuds it is an experimental clam and garlic sauce 

OK,
Tony

On 12 Feb 2012 at 11:33, gaiac...@gmail.com wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth r

>   Well, it's like I tell people--It's MEDICINE, it's not suppose to taste
> good.  Lol  I was just wondering that if somehow it was right on the gums
> that it didn't get to the tastebuds much.  Guess I can't be that lucky.  
> 
> I'll give it a try and let you know.
> 
> Samala,
> Renee 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> 
> I just put some DMSO in the bottle cap and dipped my finger in and then
> rubbed it on the gun/tooth root area.  I did this several times.
> 



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[ew]

Iodine?  I know about the effect  of the Tea Tree and Sensadyne is from direct 
experience. It even took care of an impacted tooth.. swelling went down, and 
tooth was fine. Perhaps someone knows of another essential oil that could be 
substituted???  Clove oil?  

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/remedies-clove-oil-for-tooth-pain/ 
Maybe someone on this list can speak authoritatively on essential oils? (I 
haven't gotten beyond Tea Tree yet)

Anyway, I think maybe Colloidal Silver? mixed with DMSO? There is a CS list 
hosted at http://silverlist.org/  The silver will kill off infection.

AFter the surgeons cut my husband from ribs to navel, he came home with the 
incision starting to send red tendrils from the cut.  The doctors gave us a 
Silver ointment to use. Between it, Tea Tree and Vit E, the incision healed 
without a problem (didn't know about Iodine at the time)

AnitaW

sol wrote:
> 
> ew wrote:
> > Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
> > sensitive teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper 
> > varities) will help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed 
> > nerves.  (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other)
> >
> >
> I can't use tea tree oil at all, is there another essential oil that can
> do the same thing? I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for
> sensitivity.
> sol
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Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Rowena]

DH had excrutiatingly sensitive teeth. Dentist recommended this special 
toothpaste for sensitive teeth.  Using it gave him the same pain as 
sweet things.  Studied the contents list, looked up on line - sorbitol 
is used to keep the paste moist.  My mother used to tell me as a kid 
that "they" put sugar in toothpaste to rot people's teeth, and I didn't 
believe her. Sixty years later I wonder if this is what she meant.

R

On 13/02/2012 2:23 AM, sol wrote:

 I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for sensitivity.
sol


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[sol]

ew wrote:

Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
sensitive teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper 
varities) will help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed 
nerves.  (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other)

  
I can't use tea tree oil at all, is there another essential oil that can 
do the same thing? I AM using a tooth paste the dentist gave me for 
sensitivity.

sol


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Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[sol]

PTFerrance wrote:

Another alternative is to have it covered with a filling material that looks
like natural tooth.  This is what I did for some large areas.
PT
  
I agree. I have several teeth with that stuff as a covering. Haven't 
asked the dentist about that option yet though. Was hoping to avoid it, 
because I don't really know how well it would work on the side of a 
tooth in the gap at the gum line on a capped tooth and mainly I hate 
going to the dentist!

sol


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[PTFerrance]

Another alternative is to have it covered with a filling material that looks
like natural tooth.  This is what I did for some large areas.
PT

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 11:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

Dan Nave wrote:
> I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
> it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
> DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
> disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
> apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
> used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
> area of the gums and teeth roots.
>
> I would appreciate it if anyone with sensitive teeth roots would try
> this and report the results back.
>   
Hmmm, Since my cataract surgery (acrylic lens implants--DMSO dissolves 
some or all acrylics--I cannot find out what kind of acrylic my implants 
are made of) I have avoided using DMSO at even very low 
concentrationsbut this may be worth the risk. Mostly plain CS 
used as mouthwash after brushing keeps my exposed tooth roots from being 
too sensitive. However I have one spot that remains excruciating. Can 
barely even floss it. I've been thinking about having that tooth pulled 
to tell the truth.

I'd be extremely interested to know how long the desensitization from 
the single application lasts.
sol


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Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[gaiac...@gmail.com]

  Well, it's like I tell people--It's MEDICINE, it's not suppose to taste
good.  Lol  I was just wondering that if somehow it was right on the gums
that it didn't get to the tastebuds much.  Guess I can't be that lucky.  

I'll give it a try and let you know.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
I just put some DMSO in the bottle cap and dipped my finger in and then
rubbed it on the gun/tooth root area.  I did this several times.
 <>

Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[ew]

Well, if you dare use Tea Tree Oil on your teeth... it will desensitize 
sensitive teeth... and a Sensodyne type of tooth past (there are cheaper 
varities) will help take care of current pain. Even tooth aches and exposed 
nerves.  (Using both the Tea Tree and the Sensodyne), one then the other)

AnitaW

sol wrote:
> 
> Dan Nave wrote:
> > I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
> > it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
> > DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
> > disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
> > apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
> > used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
> > area of the gums and teeth roots.
> >
> > I would appreciate it if anyone with sensitive teeth roots would try
> > this and report the results back.
> >
> Hmmm, Since my cataract surgery (acrylic lens implants--DMSO dissolves
> some or all acrylics--I cannot find out what kind of acrylic my implants
> are made of) I have avoided using DMSO at even very low
> concentrationsbut this may be worth the risk. Mostly plain CS
> used as mouthwash after brushing keeps my exposed tooth roots from being
> too sensitive. However I have one spot that remains excruciating. Can
> barely even floss it. I've been thinking about having that tooth pulled
> to tell the truth.
> 
> I'd be extremely interested to know how long the desensitization from
> the single application lasts.
> sol
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[sol]

Dan Nave wrote:

I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
area of the gums and teeth roots.

I would appreciate it if anyone with sensitive teeth roots would try
this and report the results back.
  
Hmmm, Since my cataract surgery (acrylic lens implants--DMSO dissolves 
some or all acrylics--I cannot find out what kind of acrylic my implants 
are made of) I have avoided using DMSO at even very low 
concentrationsbut this may be worth the risk. Mostly plain CS 
used as mouthwash after brushing keeps my exposed tooth roots from being 
too sensitive. However I have one spot that remains excruciating. Can 
barely even floss it. I've been thinking about having that tooth pulled 
to tell the truth.


I'd be extremely interested to know how long the desensitization from 
the single application lasts.

sol


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Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[Dan Nave]

I just put some DMSO in the bottle cap and dipped my finger in and then
rubbed it on the gun/tooth root area.  I did this several times.

Yes, it tastes awful, but you also get used to it.  Let's see, 10 minutes
or less of bad taste vs. a lifetime of intermittent excrutiating pain...
H.  I guess I won't try it.

Dan

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:48 PM, gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:

> How did you apply the DMSO?  Didn't it taste awful?
>
> Samala,
> Renee
>
>
>
>
> *---Original Message---*
>
> I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
> it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
> DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
> disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
> apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
> used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
> area of the gums and teeth roots.
>
> I
>

Re: CS>DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

[gaiac...@gmail.com]

How did you apply the DMSO?  Didn't it taste awful?

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
area of the gums and teeth roots.
 
I

Re: CS>DMSO and EIS nebulizer recipe

[Scotty]

Hopefully, you don't smoke as the DMSO will transfer nicotine deeper into the 
lungs and into the bloodstream possibly causing an overdose of nicotine from 
what I've heard. I have used a 2% mixture of DMSO without it causing any 
noticeable side effects. I have great results whenever I nebulize CS. Hope this 
helps.


Scotty
Have a great day!

 


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From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: CS>DMSO and EIS nebulizer recipe
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 6, 2012, 1:13 PM


What is an acceptable ratio by volume of DMSO and EIS when used with nebulizer?

I nebulized the 50PPM EIS I made, and I got some mild feelings of herx
in my brain.  So again, I need to explore this route more also.
Orally, I did not notice any clear effect.

David


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Re: CS> DMSO-CS-Glycerin mix shows gray color ????

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 9/26/2011 11:59:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
aera...@gmail.com writes:

I asked  this before and did not see an answer. When I mix up colloidal 
silver with  DMSO and glycerine, there is a grey precipitation that shows 
up 
the next  day or so. Anyone know why? Or if it is OK to use the mix as is?  
Thanks.
Gayla 

Hi Gayla, I'm don't know why the  color would change...I mix the Brooks Mix 
 for several people. {75%  CS,--15% Glycerin & then add 10 % DMSO.} I have 
never had a color change.  Just the normal heat when the DMSO is added.  
There must be someone on  the list that can give a reason.. I'm curious now 
too..  Lois

Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[larry tankersley]

I once got a drop of 99.7% DMSO on the top of a plastic scale and it ate it, 
I'd say be careful what you use. The bottle the DMSO came in is HDPE #2

larry tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA



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[sol]

Ode Coyote wrote:



  It comes in a plastic bottle that doesn't fall apart after 5 years?

Ode

Heck, the brand DMSO I use, which is the stuff sold by Jeffers Equine, 
etc, plain white bottle with blue printing, I once kept a bottle for 16  
years with no deterioration to the bottle at all. That was when I was 
too scared to actually use the stuff, and when I did decide to try it, I 
did discard it and get new, but the bottle was perfectly intact, LOL.

sol


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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[Scotty]

I use 2% DMSO with my homemade CS. Have never had a problem doing so over the 
past 6 years. And, yes, my DMSO came in a plastic bottle also. Good point Ode! 
Scotty
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 3:08:38 AM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS



  It comes in a plastic bottle that doesn't fall apart after 5 years?

Ode


At 05:50 AM 2/1/2011 -0800, you wrote:
> I've been nervous about nebulizing DMSO, and not so much about peroxide.
> 
> My concern re DMSO is not knowing whether it will interact with the plastic 
>parts of the nebulizer and carry weird stuff into my bloodstream.  I don't 
>think 
>there is much risk of this with peroxide though.  Any thoughts out there?
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, David AuBuchon  wrote:
>> 
>> From: David AuBuchon 
>> Subject: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 11:48 PM
>> 
>> I am starting to give someone nebulized CS.  He has this nebulizer:
>><http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm>http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
>>m
>> 
>> He does about 2 cc's, which takes about 10 minutes to nebulize.  How much 
>> DMSO 
>>should I add to this much CS?  If the answer is in "percent", then percent by 
>>what (ie volume...mass...etc)?  Any safety concerns?  I'm just washing the 
>>nebulizer out with tap water between uses.
>> 
>> He's always coughed up mucus, which got a lot better after alt. treatment 
>> for 
>>the cancer he has, a little of which touched his lungs.  But he still has 
>>some 
>>mucus and coughing going on, and his voice has always been raspy.  I think he 
>>smoked ages ago.  He's done a lot of nebulized peroxide.  I don't know what 
>>concentration, but a doctor gave that to us in bottles.  I suppose you 
>>wouldn't 
>>want to do nebulized peroxide close to nebulized CS as a safety thing also.
>> 
>> ~David


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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[Ode Coyote]

  It comes in a plastic bottle that doesn't fall apart after 5 years?

Ode


At 05:50 AM 2/1/2011 -0800, you wrote:

I've been nervous about nebulizing DMSO, and not so much about peroxide.

My concern re DMSO is not knowing whether it will interact with the 
plastic parts of the nebulizer and carry weird stuff into my 
bloodstream.  I don't think there is much risk of this with peroxide 
though.  Any thoughts out there?




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From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 11:48 PM

I am starting to give someone nebulized CS.  He has this nebulizer:
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm

He does about 2 cc's, which takes about 10 minutes to nebulize.  How much 
DMSO should I add to this much CS?  If the answer is in "percent", then 
percent by what (ie volume...mass...etc)?  Any safety concerns?  I'm just 
washing the nebulizer out with tap water between uses.


He's always coughed up mucus, which got a lot better after alt. treatment 
for the cancer he has, a little of which touched his lungs.  But he still 
has some mucus and coughing going on, and his voice has always been 
raspy.  I think he smoked ages ago.  He's done a lot of nebulized 
peroxide.  I don't know what concentration, but a doctor gave that to us 
in bottles.  I suppose you wouldn't want to do nebulized peroxide close 
to nebulized CS as a safety thing also.


~David



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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[David AuBuchon]

Rats...this confuses me more.  Sounds like Brooks is implying that
people have done nebulized CS when peroxide is added to it?  Is that
compatible with the other additions of DMSO and MSM?

The peroxide my doc gave me I think was only 0.0375%.  Brooks implies
people nebulize with concentration even more than 2% added to CS?

Sounds like there is a long road to slowly work up through if you want
to take nebulizers to the max.  First CS, then adding peroxide, then
adding DMSO, then adding MSM, then taking cayenne, then using brooks'
fancy nebulizer.  It could take a long time to slowly increase through
all that, but I may have to for myself someday.  In addition to my
friend, I know my lungs are infected with something as part of my
chronic lyme.  I don't have any response to that very low percentage
peroxide or to 10ppm CS.

~David
http://scientificliving.net/


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:38 PM, David Snowdon  wrote:
> I'd be very cautious when nebulizing DMSO on a smoker. It could release a
> lot
> of the stored poisons coating the lungs from smoking. Below is a message
> from Brooks
> Bradley:
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:34:54 -0500
> From: BROOKS BRADLEY
> Subject: Re: CS>Caution using H2O2/CS Inhalation Therapy
>
> To all interested listmembers:
>
> I have followed the recxent postings relative to incorporating H202 into
> the pulmonary system protocol involving nebulization.  After inquiring
> from some of our staff involved in some of our evaluations several years
> ago ... I am informed that CAUTION is the watchword when dealing with
> unknown pathogenic parameters.
>
> I am informed that pronounced adverse reactions occurred in some of our
> animal evaluations.  The problem was determined to be based upon the
> nature/condition of the biological terrain of the lungs --- AT THE TIME
> OF INHALATION.  It seems that, although, the air sacs are superficially
> exposed to atmospheric 02 on every inhalation (excepting those
> compromised by anerobic pathogens insulated from this high O2 gas (air)
> ... there exists a circumstance presenting serious challenges to the
> UNREGULATED exposure to H202.
>
> The systemic challenge can manifest if sufficient volume of the H202
> mist comes into sudden...direct contact with ANY sizeable anerobic
> population  If there is a sizeable population of anerobes present
> ---WHICH PRESENT IMMEDIATE ACCESSIBLITY  to the incoming H202 mist ...
> the possibility exists that the foaming action could be great enough to
> generate SERIOUS consequences.
>
> This possibility rises by an order of magnitude if DMSO is involved in
> the protocol.  Our staff confirmed this through animal experiments.
> Adverse reactions were encountered in some cases involving H202
> concentrations as low as 2%.  The stabilizing protocol involved 100% 02
> at 1.25 atmospheres --- and was instituted at the FIRST signs of
> pulmonary distress.
>
> In my opinion, administering CS in combination with H202 --- into an
> unknown pathogenic environment involving the lungs --- could be VERY
> serious.  I am not attempting to be alarmist in this instance;  just
> pointing out what should be obvious to all deliberate/cautious
> researchers.  The odds against a serious adverse occurrence are,
> probably, higher than its likelihood ... but even long odds are not too
> desireable when the breathing system is involved.
>
> If one insists on experimenting with such a protocol, it would appear
> prudent to start at or below 0.5%  H202.  It would, also, be adviseable
> to mix a sample of the volunteer's sputum with a generous amount of your
> protocol solution and observe for reaction ... prior to inducing
> inhalation procedures.
>
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[David Snowdon]

I'd be very cautious when nebulizing DMSO on a smoker. It could release 
a lot
of the stored poisons coating the lungs from smoking. Below is a message 
from Brooks

Bradley:

Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:34:54 -0500
From: BROOKS BRADLEY
Subject: Re: CS>Caution using H2O2/CS Inhalation Therapy

To all interested listmembers:

I have followed the recxent postings relative to incorporating H202 into
the pulmonary system protocol involving nebulization.  After inquiring
from some of our staff involved in some of our evaluations several years
ago ... I am informed that CAUTION is the watchword when dealing with
unknown pathogenic parameters.

I am informed that pronounced adverse reactions occurred in some of our
animal evaluations.  The problem was determined to be based upon the
nature/condition of the biological terrain of the lungs --- AT THE TIME
OF INHALATION.  It seems that, although, the air sacs are superficially
exposed to atmospheric 02 on every inhalation (excepting those
compromised by anerobic pathogens insulated from this high O2 gas (air)
... there exists a circumstance presenting serious challenges to the
UNREGULATED exposure to H202.

The systemic challenge can manifest if sufficient volume of the H202
mist comes into sudden...direct contact with ANY sizeable anerobic
population  If there is a sizeable population of anerobes present
---WHICH PRESENT IMMEDIATE ACCESSIBLITY  to the incoming H202 mist ...
the possibility exists that the foaming action could be great enough to
generate SERIOUS consequences.

This possibility rises by an order of magnitude if DMSO is involved in
the protocol.  Our staff confirmed this through animal experiments.
Adverse reactions were encountered in some cases involving H202
concentrations as low as 2%.  The stabilizing protocol involved 100% 02
at 1.25 atmospheres --- and was instituted at the FIRST signs of
pulmonary distress.

In my opinion, administering CS in combination with H202 --- into an
unknown pathogenic environment involving the lungs --- could be VERY
serious.  I am not attempting to be alarmist in this instance;  just
pointing out what should be obvious to all deliberate/cautious
researchers.  The odds against a serious adverse occurrence are,
probably, higher than its likelihood ... but even long odds are not too
desireable when the breathing system is involved.

If one insists on experimenting with such a protocol, it would appear
prudent to start at or below 0.5%  H202.  It would, also, be adviseable
to mix a sample of the volunteer's sputum with a generous amount of your
protocol solution and observe for reaction ... prior to inducing
inhalation procedures.

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.


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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[David AuBuchon]

Thanks.  Any idea if this is safe on humans?  I'm going to try this on
myself before I give it to my friend.

Anyone know: the CS really does not react with the MSM at all?  How does MSM
potentiate the CS?

~David
http://scientificliving.net/

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:51 AM, sol  wrote:

> David, I use this mix: 1 oz CS - 1 tsp MSM powder- 12 drops DMSO
>  Years ago I figured out what percent of DMSo this is but I have long
> forgotten. I mix it in a glass dropper bottle and usually use 3 ml as a
> treatment. I used it in an omron elite for many years until it died (the
> switch died)---now am using it in the edge-1 shown on the page the link you
> gave connects to. I HATE the edge-1 as it is incredibly noisy. After some
> searching I found another omron elite at ebay and it is supposed to be here
> tomorrow.  I can hardly wait!
>  The CS in my mix is my homemade about 10 ppm, the MSM I use is Opti-MSM,
> and The DSMO is just plain old  "vet grade" DMSO as sold by Jeffers Equine,
> etc. (I  am nebulize my pet rabbit twice a day, and you can see a photo of
> him getting a treatment at the homepage of the SilverPets list:
> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
>
> A 3 ml treatment with the edge-1 takes approx 15 minutes.  If memory serves
> the Omron was a little faster.
> sol
>
>
> David AuBuchon wrote:
>
>> I am starting to give someone nebulized CS.  He has this nebulizer:
>> http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
>>
>
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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[sol]

David, I use this mix: 1 oz CS - 1 tsp MSM powder- 12 drops DMSO
  Years ago I figured out what percent of DMSo this is but I have long 
forgotten. I mix it in a glass dropper bottle and usually use 3 ml as a 
treatment. I used it in an omron elite for many years until it died (the 
switch died)---now am using it in the edge-1 shown on the page the link 
you gave connects to. I HATE the edge-1 as it is incredibly noisy. After 
some searching I found another omron elite at ebay and it is supposed to 
be here tomorrow.  I can hardly wait!
 The CS in my mix is my homemade about 10 ppm, the MSM I use is 
Opti-MSM, and The DSMO is just plain old  "vet grade" DMSO as sold by 
Jeffers Equine, etc. (I  am nebulize my pet rabbit twice a day, and you 
can see a photo of him getting a treatment at the homepage of the 
SilverPets list:

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/

A 3 ml treatment with the edge-1 takes approx 15 minutes.  If memory 
serves the Omron was a little faster.

sol
 


David AuBuchon wrote:

I am starting to give someone nebulized CS.  He has this nebulizer:
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm



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Re: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS

[Steve G]

I've been nervous about nebulizing DMSO, and not so much about peroxide.  

My concern re DMSO is not knowing whether it will interact with the plastic 
parts of the nebulizer and carry weird stuff into my bloodstream.  I don't 
think there is much risk of this with peroxide though.  Any thoughts out there?



--- On Mon, 1/31/11, David AuBuchon  wrote:

From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: CS>DMSO and nebulized CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 11:48 PM

I am starting to give someone nebulized CS.  He has this nebulizer:
http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm

He does about 2 cc's, which takes about 10 minutes to nebulize.  How much DMSO 
should I add to this much CS?  If the answer is in "percent", then percent by 
what (ie volume...mass...etc)?  Any safety concerns?  I'm just washing the 
nebulizer out with tap water between uses.  


He's always coughed up mucus, which got a lot better after alt. treatment for 
the cancer he has, a little of which touched his lungs.  But he still has some 
mucus and coughing going on, and his voice has always been raspy.  I think he 
smoked ages ago.  He's done a lot of nebulized peroxide.  I don't know what 
concentration, but a doctor gave that to us in bottles.  I suppose you wouldn't 
want to do nebulized peroxide close to nebulized CS as a safety thing also.


~David




  

Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Dan Nave]

Thanks for the info.

No, my relatives were mostly from Great Briton of one type or another
as far as I know.  Other side Norwegian.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:51 PM,   wrote:
> In a message dated 1/24/2011 11:07:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:
>
> You saw the UFO and the jet on RADAR
>
> No. I was a ground mechanic and my job was to get the Radar report and do
> any repairs required based on what the RO said. I saw the jet coming in with
> "smoked guns" which meant the guns were fired and climbed the ladder before
> the Air Police got there. The RO was a funny colored green and his hands
> were shaking so much he could not un buckle his seat belt. I un buckled it
> for him, so I got a real good look. The chasing of UFOs with our
> jets stopped that night.
> Maybe my GGGrandmother made her claypipe. Actually they were some of the
> plantation owner Cherokees that even owned slaves. The slaves went west with
> them from North Carolina. Mom said the slaves cried when the government set
> them free after the Civil war. Was you relative also a Cherokee?
> Brickey


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Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Tad Winiecki]

brick...@aol.com wrote:
I thought black salve would do nothing on a mole or skin tag if it 
wasn't a cancer? I put some on moles which itched but that was all.
 
I would concur, but I used Cinnamon essential oil, applying I forget 
maybe twice a day for a week, on some skin tags, which swell up, turn 
red, itch like crazy for a week, then fall off.  It worked on some moles 
and growths but not all, some seem to swell up but not die off, perhaps 
if I persisted they might have but I quit.  I had to use some soothing 
salve in between to kill the itching.


Black salve can eat a hole in normal skin, but reacts with a cancer 
turning it black and killing the cells.




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Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Brickeyk]

 
In a message dated 1/24/2011 11:07:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:

You saw  the UFO and the jet on RADAR


No. I was a ground mechanic and my job was to get the Radar report and do  
any repairs required based on what the RO said. I saw the jet coming in with 
 "smoked guns" which meant the guns were fired and climbed the ladder 
before the  Air Police got there. The RO was a funny colored green and his 
hands 
were  shaking so much he could not un buckle his seat belt. I un buckled it 
for him,  so I got a real good look. The chasing of UFOs with our jets 
stopped that  night.
Maybe my GGGrandmother made her claypipe. Actually they were some of the  
plantation owner Cherokees that even owned slaves. The slaves went west with  
them from North Carolina. Mom said the slaves cried when the government set 
them  free after the Civil war. Was you relative also a Cherokee? 
Brickey

Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Dan Nave]

You saw the UFO and the jet on RADAR?

I've got a picture of my great-great grandmother *smoking* a claypipe. ;-))

Dan

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:25 PM,   wrote:
> I thought black salve would do nothing on a mole or skin tag if it wasn't a
> cancer? I put some on moles which itched but that was all.
>
> I watched Ancient Aliens 1/8/11 and saw the F-94 jet fighter incident where
> he fired on a UFO over Washington DC back in the early 1950's. I was a Radar
> Tech that met the jet when he landed at McGuire AFB to get The Radar
> Observers (RO) report. I had the report in my hand and saw UFO entered. The
> RO jerked the report out of my hand and said this is secret. Both the pilot
> and RO were taking away and we never heard from them again. This is the
> first report I have seen on the incident. Over 2000 people in DC reported
> the incident.
>
> Also I finally learned my GGGrandmothers native Cherokee name was
> "Claypipe".
> Brickey


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Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Tel Tofflemire]

 You thought wrong, Black salve does take Moles , warts, and skintags off, but 
Skin Cancer, is what it has beeen used the most.
  By the way all Black salve is not the sam for sure, mine has 4 herbs in it 
besides Bloodroot. Just so now you know.
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: "brick...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 9:25:55 PM
Subject: Re: CS>  DMSO   VS   Black Salve

I thought black salve would do nothing on a mole or skin tag if it wasn't a  
cancer? I put some on moles which itched but that was all.
 
I watched Ancient Aliens 1/8/11 and saw the F-94 jet fighter incident  where he 
fired on a UFO over Washington DC back in the early 1950's. I was  a Radar Tech 
that met the jet when he landed at McGuire AFB to get The  Radar Observers 
(RO) report. I had the report in my hand and saw UFO  entered. The RO jerked 
the 
report out of my hand and said this is secret. Both  the pilot and RO were 
taking away and we never heard from them again. This is  the first report I 
have 
seen on the incident. Over 2000 people in DC reported  the incident.
 
Also I finally learned my GGGrandmothers native Cherokee name was  "Claypipe".
Brickey  


  

Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Brickeyk]

I thought black salve would do nothing on a mole or skin tag if it wasn't a 
 cancer? I put some on moles which itched but that was all.
 
I watched Ancient Aliens 1/8/11 and saw the F-94 jet fighter incident  
where he fired on a UFO over Washington DC back in the early 1950's. I was  a 
Radar Tech that met the jet when he landed at McGuire AFB to get The  Radar 
Observers (RO) report. I had the report in my hand and saw UFO  entered. The 
RO jerked the report out of my hand and said this is secret. Both  the pilot 
and RO were taking away and we never heard from them again. This is  the 
first report I have seen on the incident. Over 2000 people in DC reported  the 
incident.
 
Also I finally learned my GGGrandmothers native Cherokee name was  
"Claypipe".
Brickey 

Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Tel Tofflemire]

No, it is not down !
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Deborah Gerard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 11:15:46 AM
Subject: Re: CS>  DMSO   VS   Black Salve


Is the site down I have been trying to post for three days?





 From: Tel Tofflemire 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 12:47:26 PM
Subject: Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve




 Hi Leslie
RE: DMSO 99.9 % is as pure as it gets.   
P.S. If DMSO does not work on your tumor, try Black Salve, many on this list 
have used it with much success, and no pain.
Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com




Hi Dianne, 
I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top of it and it 
seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything that I could 
tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was hearing that 
it 
did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here in town, but I 
am 
not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what answers come forth. 


  

Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Deborah Gerard]

Is the site down I have been trying to post for three days?





From: Tel Tofflemire 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 12:47:26 PM
Subject: Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve




 Hi Leslie
RE: DMSO 99.9 % is as pure as it gets.   
P.S. If DMSO does not work on your tumor, try Black Salve, many on this list 
have used it with much success, and no pain.
Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com




Hi Dianne, 
I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top of it and it 
seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything that I could 
tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was hearing that 
it 
did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here in town, but I 
am 
not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what answers come forth. 


  

RE: CS>DMSO

[Dianne France]

Leslie,
What type of tumor is the spot you are doctoring?  Is it a fatty cyst or do you 
believe it might be cancer?  On a fatty cyst I mixed some DMSO with Lugols and 
put it on the cyst and they diminished in size.  I have some of Tel's black 
salve and would use it if I thought malignant.  I've misplaced my directions he 
sent me with the salve but don't think it takes much to draw it out of the body.
 
Good luck with what you are doing and hope you get well soon.  
 
Dianne
 


Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:42:57 -0800
From: leslie3...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO
To: silver-list@eskimo.com







Hi Dianne, 
I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top of it and it 
seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything that I could 
tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was hearing that 
it did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here in town, but 
I am not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what answers come 
forth. 



Leslie--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Dianne France  wrote:


From: Dianne France 
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO
To: "silver-list" 
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:33 AM




We bought some for injection purposes from our vet but paid a lot more for it 
from him.  Have not used it injected for us but have taken it orally.  Mostly 
we use the standard that Dee mentioned.

 
> Subject: Re: CS>DMSO
> From: d...@deetroy.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:53:50 +
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> I think the 99.9% is fine to use. This is the one I use and it is in a 
> plastic bottle. dee
> 
> On 15 Jan 2011, at 19:41, Lisa wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where you can purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
> > glass bottles)?
> > 
> > I’ve got the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and 
> > I understand it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the 
> > Northeast so would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern 
> > places would help with shipping costs.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Lisa
> 
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Re: CS>DMSO

[Leslie]

Lois, may I ask what you take DMSO internally for?  I have not participated in 
the group for a long time due to computer.  Still  barely going.  As I 
mentioned, I apply externally to a tumor on inside of arm and then pat on 
baking soda. Hope it works. It seems to have moved and shrunk slightly; very 
slow but still hoping.
Thanks,
Leslie
--- On Sun, 1/16/11, zzekel...@aol.com  wrote:

From: zzekel...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 2:30 PM



 
 



In a message dated 1/15/2011 2:42:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
blacksa...@comcast.net writes:

  
  Does anyone know where you can 
  purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in glass bottles)?I’ve got 
  the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and I 
understand 
  it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the Northeast so 
  would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern places would 
help 
  with shipping costs.Thanks.Lisa

Hi Lisa, I've bought mine at the local farm supply for years & it works 
great. Both internal & external..." If it's good enough for multi million 
dollar race horses" it sure is good enough for my family--friends--pets--& 
me...Lois


  

Re: CS>DMSO

[Tel Tofflemire]

Unless it is contaminated it doesn't seem to get much better than 99.9 % pure. 
 It is made from the inter part of trees left over from a sawmill cuttings and 
sawdust. They truck it into a to factory process it in to a solvent. The only 
contamination I can think of is if some cross contamination when processing, 
and 
that would carry whatever is mixed with it deep into tissue.  Thats what it 
does, goes deep into the tissue, used for many years as a muscle rub on Horses, 
and Livestock.  It is closely related to MSM  only one molecule apart.
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: "zzekel...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO

In a message dated 1/15/2011 2:42:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
blacksa...@comcast.net writes:
Does anyone know where you canpurchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
glass bottles)?I’ve gotthe industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local 
Agway store and I understandit really shouldn’t be used due to the 
impurities. I’m in the Northeast sowould love to hear from everyone, but 
certainly northeastern places would helpwith shipping costs.Thanks.Lisa
Hi Lisa, I've bought mine at the local farm supply for years & it works  great. 
Both internal & external..." If it's good enough for multi million  dollar race 
horses" it sure is good enough for my family--friends--pets--&  me...Lois


  

Re: CS> DMSO VS Black Salve

[Tel Tofflemire]

 Hi Leslie
RE: DMSO 99.9 % is as pure as it gets.   
P.S. If DMSO does not work on your tumor, try Black Salve, many on this list 
have used it with much success, and no pain.
Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com




Hi Dianne, 
I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top of it and it 
seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything that I could 
tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was hearing that 
it 
did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here in town, but I 
am 
not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what answers come forth. 


  

Re: CS>DMSO

[Deborah Gerard]

Leslie,
What does putting the soda ontop of it do?
thanks much,
Debbie





From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 10:42:57 PM
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO




Hi Dianne, 
I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top of it and it 
seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything that I could 
tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was hearing that 
it 
did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here in town, but I 
am 
not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what answers come forth. 


Leslie--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Dianne France  wrote:


>From: Dianne France 
>Subject: RE: CS>DMSO
>To: "silver-list" 
>Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:33 AM
>
>
>We bought some for injection purposes from our vet but paid a lot more for it 
>from him.  Have not used it injected for us but have taken it orally.  Mostly 
>we 
>use the standard that Dee mentioned.
>
> 
>> Subject: Re: CS>DMSO
>> From: d...@deetroy.org
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:53:50 +
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> 
>> I think the 99.9% is fine to use. This is the one I use and it is in a 
>> plastic 
>>bottle. dee
>> > > Lisa
>> 
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RE: CS>DMSO

[Leslie]

Hi Dianne, I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top 
of it and it seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything 
that I could tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was 
hearing that it did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here 
in town, but I am not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what 
answers come forth. 

Leslie--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Dianne France  wrote:

From: Dianne France 
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO
To: "silver-list" 
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:33 AM





 
We bought some for injection purposes from our vet but paid a lot more for it 
from him.  Have not used it injected for us but have taken it orally.  Mostly 
we use the standard that Dee mentioned.


 

> Subject: Re: CS>DMSO
> From: d...@deetroy.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:53:50 +
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> I think the 99.9% is fine to use. This is the one I use and it is in a 
> plastic bottle. dee
> 
> On 15 Jan 2011, at 19:41, Lisa wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where you can purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
> > glass bottles)?
> > 
> > I’ve got the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and 
> > I understand it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the 
> > Northeast so would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern 
> > places would help with shipping costs.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Lisa
> 
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Re: CS>DMSO

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 1/15/2011 2:42:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
blacksa...@comcast.net writes:

 
Does anyone know where you can  purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
glass bottles)?I’ve got  the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local 
Agway store and I understand  it really shouldn’t be used due to the 
impurities. I’m in the Northeast so  would love to hear from everyone, but 
certainly northeastern places would help  with shipping costs.Thanks.Lisa



Hi Lisa, I've bought mine at the local farm supply for years & it works  
great. Both internal & external..." If it's good enough for multi million  
dollar race horses" it sure is good enough for my family--friends--pets--&  
me...Lois

Re: CS>DMSO

[Ode Coyote]

  DMSO isn't in the pharmacopeia any more than  CS is or ever was
..no such thing as pharmaceutical grade DMSO  or CS.

99.9% is about as pure as ANYTHING gets and 100% pure isn't likely possible 
anywhere for any-thing.


99.9%, not bad for an "industrial solvent" being polluted upon application 
to a chemical soup body or dilution with 89% pure distilled water.


Ode

At 02:41 PM 1/15/2011 -0500, you wrote:

Does anyone know where you can purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
glass bottles)?




Ive got the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and 
I understand it really shouldnt be used due to the impurities. Im in the 
Northeast so would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern 
places would help with shipping costs.




Thanks.



Lisa



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RE: CS>DMSO

[Dianne France]

We bought some for injection purposes from our vet but paid a lot more for it 
from him.  Have not used it injected for us but have taken it orally.  Mostly 
we use the standard that Dee mentioned.

 
> Subject: Re: CS>DMSO
> From: d...@deetroy.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:53:50 +
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> I think the 99.9% is fine to use. This is the one I use and it is in a 
> plastic bottle. dee
> 
> On 15 Jan 2011, at 19:41, Lisa wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where you can purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
> > glass bottles)?
> > 
> > I’ve got the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and 
> > I understand it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the 
> > Northeast so would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern 
> > places would help with shipping costs.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Lisa
> 
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Re: CS>DMSO

[Catherine Creel]

Lisa wrote:


<>

** It sounds like what you have is pharmaceutical grade.  A
product is not referred to as "100%  pharmaceutical grade"; it's
either pharmaceutical grade or it's not.  If you are referring to the
designation of "99.9% pure".  This indicates it is pharmaceutical
grade.

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Re: CS>DMSO

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I think the 99.9% is fine to use.  This is the one I use and it is in a plastic 
bottle.  dee

On 15 Jan 2011, at 19:41, Lisa wrote:

> Does anyone know where you can purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
> glass bottles)?
>  
> I’ve got the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and I 
> understand it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the 
> Northeast so would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern 
> places would help with shipping costs.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Lisa


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Re: CS>DMSO killing nerves

[Dick Rochon]

Also, before prednisone DMSO was administered for serious head injuries to 
keep the brain from swelling in the skull. It worked and did not have the 
serious side effects of the steroids, but they are more profitable.


Dick
- Original Message - 
From: "Saralou" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: CS>DMSO killing nerves


 Given that DMSO is used as part of the solution for 
preservation/transport for organs to be transplanted, I'd be very 
surprised if nerve damage is an issue.  More likely (--read Stan Jacobs 
material!--he's a researcher!) pain relief has to do with changing the 
permeability of cell membrane.  When you also consider how often it's used 
on athletic injuries, I'd be surprised if nerve damage is a factor. Ask 
your doc if his info is published or verified anyplace--like sports meds 
or vet meds or with cystitis or with transplant technology.


Consider reading the articles at Jacob's site if you haven't read Morton's 
book.  Then you have a way to judge what DMSO naysayers come up with.





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On 10/9/2010 2:39 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
I told my foot DR that I was taking a sublingual B12 crushing it add DMSO 
then rubbing it on my hip. Four parameters on my last blood test all 
showed large blood cells. I also take folic acid daily. I took Prilosec 
for years that is noted for causing large blood cells. He said that a DR 
at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain relief was due to 
DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near you. I also 
use Brooks formula EIS/DMSO/Glycerine on my TKR surgery. 12 weeks post 
surgery and still have a scar.
I also use DMSO/EIS with my sinus wash and tooth brush. Any reports of 
nerve damage caused by using DMSO?

Brickey



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RE: CS>DMSO

[Lisa]

So are you saying that using oil of cloves rubbed on one's foot for plantar
fasciitis will help relieve the pain (with the possibility of a brief bout
of painful urination)? Anything else you used specifically for the PF? My
Mom is suffering from this and I feel helpless with the inability to help
her.

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: rans...@atmc.net [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO

 

>He said that a DR at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain
relief was due to DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near
you.<

 

Typical scare tactic crap from the white coated priests. I have been rubbing
DMSO on my right foot for weeks to both relieve pain and accelerate healing.
It was actually not very effective for my severe plantar fasciitis but the
pain sure came back after the DMSO wore off and truth be told it never did
too much to relieve this pain. If this were true then you would end up with
a numb spot. 

 

BTW, Oil of Cloves DID work, and I discovered it is much more potent at
going through the skin and subsequently through the body than DMSO. Only
problem is that the first urination after application was painful, burning
urethra, but that quickly subsided.

 

{snip}

RE: CS>DMSO

[ransley]

No, only that I smell like DMSO. It used to make me really reek but that
stopped after I got enough infection/fungi/parasites out of me.

  _  

From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of Renee
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO



Hey Bob.  I see you've been taking the DMSO orally again.  Is there any
problem with the smell factor now?  
 
Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Something else- try dissolving the B12 (and other B's) in a little DMSO,
then add that to grape juice, then take that on an empty stomach. Works MUCH
better than transdermal. Same works for Vitamin C too. I've done it by
mixing L-Ascorbic Acid with sodium bicarbonate to make sodium ascorbate and
mixing it with potassium bicarbonate to make potassium ascorbate, then
taking either of those with DMSO and grape juice. It all works. 

RE: CS>DMSO

[Renee]

Hey Bob.  I see you've been taking the DMSO orally again.  Is there any
problem with the smell factor now?  

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Something else- try dissolving the B12 (and other B's) in a little DMSO, then 
add that to grape juice, then take that on an empty stomach. Works MUCH better 
than transdermal. Same works for Vitamin C too. I've done it by mixing 
L-Ascorbic Acid with sodium bicarbonate to make sodium ascorbate and mixing it 
with potassium bicarbonate to make potassium ascorbate, then taking either of 
those with DMSO and grape juice. It all works. 

RE: CS>DMSO

[ransley]

>He said that a DR at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain
relief was due to DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near
you.<
 
Typical scare tactic crap from the white coated priests. I have been rubbing
DMSO on my right foot for weeks to both relieve pain and accelerate healing.
It was actually not very effective for my severe plantar fasciitis but the
pain sure came back after the DMSO wore off and truth be told it never did
too much to relieve this pain. If this were true then you would end up with
a numb spot. 
 
BTW, Oil of Cloves DID work, and I discovered it is much more potent at
going through the skin and subsequently through the body than DMSO. Only
problem is that the first urination after application was painful, burning
urethra, but that quickly subsided.
 
Something else- try dissolving the B12 (and other B's) in a little DMSO,
then add that to grape juice, then take that on an empty stomach. Works MUCH
better than transdermal. Same works for Vitamin C too. I've done it by
mixing L-Ascorbic Acid with sodium bicarbonate to make sodium ascorbate and
mixing it with potassium bicarbonate to make potassium ascorbate, then
taking either of those with DMSO and grape juice. It all works. 

  _  

From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of brick...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>DMSO


I told my foot DR that I was taking a sublingual B12 crushing it add DMSO
then rubbing it on my hip. Four parameters on my last blood test all showed
large blood cells. I also take folic acid daily. I took Prilosec for years
that is noted for causing large blood cells. He said that a DR at his school
researched DMSO and concluded that pain relief was due to DMSO killing
nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near you. I also use Brooks formula
EIS/DMSO/Glycerine on my TKR surgery. 12 weeks post surgery and still have a
scar.
 
I also use DMSO/EIS with my sinus wash and tooth brush. Any reports of nerve
damage caused by using DMSO?
Brickey
 
 

Re: CS>DMSO

[cking001]

Your podiatrist is misinformed.

Start here with the reviews http://tinyurl.com/3925ba9
Then get the book... http://tinyurl.com/3358chy

DMSO is used to transport organs for transplanting. Do you think they
would use something that destroyed nerves?

Chuck
Blessed are the censors, for they shall inhibit the Earth.
 


On 10/9/2010 2:39:08 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
> I told my foot DR that I was taking a sublingual B12 crushing it add DMSO
> then rubbing it on my hip. Four parameters on my last blood test all
> showed large blood cells. I also take folic acid daily. I took Prilosec for
> years that is noted for causing large blood cells. He said that a DR at
> his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain relief was due to DMSO
> killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near you. I also use Brooks 
> formula EIS/DMSO/Glycerine on my TKR surgery. 12 weeks post surgery and still 
> have a scar.
> 
> I also use DMSO/EIS with my sinus wash and tooth brush. Any reports of nerve 
> damage caused by using DMSO?
> Brickey


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Re: CS>DMSO killing nerves

[Saralou]

 Given that DMSO is used as part of the solution for 
preservation/transport for organs to be transplanted, I'd be very 
surprised if nerve damage is an issue.  More likely (--read Stan Jacobs 
material!--he's a researcher!) pain relief has to do with changing the 
permeability of cell membrane.  When you also consider how often it's 
used on athletic injuries, I'd be surprised if nerve damage is a factor. 
Ask your doc if his info is published or verified anyplace--like sports 
meds or vet meds or with cystitis or with transplant technology.


Consider reading the articles at Jacob's site if you haven't read 
Morton's book.  Then you have a way to judge what DMSO naysayers come up 
with.





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 Jacob was head of the organ *...*
 www.*dmso*.org/articles/information/muir.htm - Cached
 

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   /DMSO/ for /Pain Relief/ and Swelling? [102] | Supplements,
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 pulls and bruises and sports injuries. /DMSO/ MSM is
 methylsulfonylmethane.
 sportsmedinfo.net/.../48-otc.../102-*dmso*-for-*pain-relief*-and-swelling
 - Cached
 




On 10/9/2010 2:39 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
I told my foot DR that I was taking a sublingual B12 crushing it add 
DMSO then rubbing it on my hip. Four parameters on my last blood test 
all showed large blood cells. I also take folic acid daily. I took 
Prilosec for years that is noted for causing large blood cells. He 
said that a DR at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain 
relief was due to DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even 
come near you. I also use Brooks formula EIS/DMSO/Glycerine on my TKR 
surgery. 12 weeks post surgery and still have a scar.
I also use DMSO/EIS with my sinus wash and tooth brush. Any reports of 
nerve damage caused by using DMSO?

Brickey



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Re: CS>DMSO

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I agree sol, as I use it for shingles.  I just wanted to get other peoples 
'take' on it.  dee

On 9 Mar 2010, at 04:54, sol wrote:

> Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO.  Any 
>> comments anyone?  dee
>> 
>>  
> Dee,
> I have used DMSO for around 6 or 7 years now, and have never seen any adverse 
> effects from it.
> As to herpes, my husband has put in on cold sores (mixed with CS) and after a 
> few treatments, he hasn't had an outbreak in years. I have seen it stop a 
> cold sore on him in 3 days.
> Like CS, DMSO is a core item in my self-care medicine chest and I will not be 
> without it because it is such a valuable adjunct to CS.
> sol
> 
> 
> 


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RE: CS>DMSO

[Ode Coyote]

  Formaldehyde is used to preserve body parts in jars, but is also a 
natural metabolite of eating healthy foods.

Context counts.  About any ordinary thing can be jacked up into doomsday.

Ode


At 08:56 AM 3/8/2010 -0800, you wrote:
As to veterinary grade DMSO I hardly think horse owners would use an 
impure product on their million dollar race horses and I think I'm worth 
at least that much so have no fears using it.  :)


When one takes into consideration DMSO is used for preserving frozen human 
embryos and frozen transplant organs the boogeyman scare tactics about 
it's dangers to the human body fall somewhat flat. Dr. Stanley Jocobs who 
has done extensive research on DMSO and it's many benefits has found it 
does no damage to any human systems. He in fact takes DMSO as a 
preventative measure everyday and has done so for many years without any 
damage.


There is no doubt that before one uses DMSO they should research and find 
out the proper ways to use it and should use a reliable authority [Dr 
Stanley Jacobs] to gain their knowledge from. DMSO is to be respected but 
so should CS, Vitamins and certainly any chemical drugs and foods etc. one 
puts in or on one's body.


I personally pay very little attention to what the naysayers have to say 
about DMSO.


Sandy

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, Norton, Steve  wrote:


From: Norton, Steve 
Subject: RE: CS>DMSO
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:14 AM

Christopher Scipio's objections seem to fall into the following
arguments:

* Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for
use with humans
* Industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure is impure
and unsafe to use
* There are no studies showing DMSO is effective against herpes
* It is dangerous because the solvent properties of DMSO allows
contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the
bloodstream.
*On exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides.


Personally, I find nothing alarming in his arguments. Yes, you need to
take care when using DMSO to not contaminate the DMSO or the skin where
the DMSO is applied. Ok, so be careful. I found nothing online regarding
the "formation of very high and toxic level of peroxides". Actually, I
often combine DMSO with hydrogen peroxide so I guess that would not
bother me.

Seems alarmist to me but each to his own.

- Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>DMSO

Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio?  Just that I have just read a
damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and
wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another
Quackwatch crank?  dee

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Re: CS>DMSO

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Sorry - no can do Chuck - I like to get *all* information I can on a 
subject--negative as well as positive-- until I make up my own mind.  Otherwise 
I would never have started using CS!  dee

On 8 Mar 2010, at 21:39, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> Yes. stop reading...
> 
>   Chuck
> Lose weight - eat stuff you hate.
> 
> 


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[sol]

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO.  Any comments 
anyone?  dee

  

Dee,
I have used DMSO for around 6 or 7 years now, and have never seen any 
adverse effects from it.
As to herpes, my husband has put in on cold sores (mixed with CS) and 
after a few treatments, he hasn't had an outbreak in years. I have seen 
it stop a cold sore on him in 3 days.
Like CS, DMSO is a core item in my self-care medicine chest and I will 
not be without it because it is such a valuable adjunct to CS.

sol



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[cking001]

Yes. stop reading...

Chuck
Lose weight - eat stuff you hate.


On 3/8/2010 8:55:14 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO.  Any
> comments anyone?  dee
> 
> On 8 Mar 2010, at 13:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio?


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