Re: [Vo]: FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday September 15, 2006

[Christopher Arnold]

  Religious devotion to good or Evil?CAAkira Kawasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sept. 15, 2006 [Original Message]From: What's New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 9/15/2006 2:23:49 PMSubject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday September 15, 2006WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 15 Sep 06 Washington, DC1. PROLIFERATION: IAEA DISPUTES HOUSE COMMITTEE REPORT ON IRAN. Who would have thought that relations between the U.S. and theUN's International Atomic Energy Agency could get worse? TheIAEA complains that a House Intelligence Committee staff report,"contains erroneous, misleading and unsubstantiated information"about Iran's nuclear program. Sound familiar? A caption
 in theHouse report says Tehran is "enriching uranium to weapons grade,"but the facility shown only enriches to 3.6%, enough for powerproduction, but far from the level needed for weapons. Beforethe U.S. invaded Iraq, the IAEA had insisted, despite Americanobjections, that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, andlater showed that some White House claims were based on forgeddocuments. After the fall of the Saddam government, the U.Sblocked IAEA inspections of damage to Iraq's nuclear facilities. But in a stunning vindication of the IAEA, Mohammed ElBaradei,director general of IAEA, was awarded the 2005 Nobel Peace Prizehttp://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN05/wn100705.html . 2. SPACE: INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION UNFURLS NEW SOLAR PANELS. The world's most expensive scientific laboratory installedadditional solar panels yesterday, capable of producing 100kilowatts or so of additional power for experiments. The
 panelscost $372 million to build, and about three times that much tosend up to the ISS. Stand by for important new results. The onlyunique feature of a space environment is micro-gravity. One ofthe things you could study in micro-gravity is cavitation inspherical drops of water. A paper just published in Phys. Rev.Lett. reports important new insights from such studies exceptthe experiments weren't done in space. They were done on aEuropean Space Agency aircraft flying in parabolic arcs.3. THIRD GREAT AWAKENING: BUSH SEES REVIVAL OF RELIGIOUS DEVOTION.The President told a group of conservative journalists this weekthat the "confrontation between good and evil" in the strugglewith international terrorism has led to a revival of religiousdevotion. He believes it to be the Third Great Awaking. That maybe, we secular types could fail to notice a revival or two, butaccording to Wikipedia we've already had four Great
 Awakenings. Asurvey released yesterday by Baylor University, however, does findAmericans to be more active in religion than supposed. Baylor isa strict Baptist college in Waco, Texas. It was a frequent targetof the late 19th century journalist William Cowper Brann, whopublished The Iconoclast. Brann's style was much like that ofH.L. Mencken a generation later, and the Iconoclast had world-widecirculation. He printed frequent exposes of prominent Waco andBaylor citizens, and was shot to death on a Waco street.THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND.Opinions are the author's and not necessarily shared by theUniversity of Maryland, but they should be.---Archives of What's New can be found at http://www.bobpark.orgWhat's New is moving to a different listserver and oursubscription process has changed. To change your subscriptionstatus please visit this
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Re: [Vo]: California Sues Car Co.s

[Christopher Arnold]

I must say this is one of the most ridiculous law suits I ever heard of. Global Warming is directly influenced from the Global aerosol spraying program, which is designed to trap global heat at the expense of peoples health, whereby the medical community is reaping the greatest rewards due to vastly increased numbers of associated health issues.If anyone is that concerned about vehicle emissions, the answer will soon be for sale.Chris  New discovery "non detonation nanodiamond" lube reduces friction by 48%, increases fuel mileage by a "minimum" 10% in vehicles tested, and increases machine life as power draw is reduced.  http://members.aol.com/hypercom59Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060920/bs_nm/environment_autos_dc_13Calif. sues carmakers over global warming By Michael KahnWed Sep 20, 2:46 PM ETSAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California on Wednesday sued six of theworld's largest automakers, including General Motors Corp. (NYSE:GM -news) and Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.T), over global warming, chargingthat greenhouse gases from their vehicles have caused billions ofdollars in damages. 
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[Vo]: 9 Billion dollars in instant energy savings for California

[Christopher Arnold]

Has Enron ever given back the 9 Billion dollars to
California? The primary reason Arnold was swept into
office as I recall, the Governor at the time was ready
to prosecute Enron for that 9 Billion dollar theft -
has it been resolved.

Chris

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Re: [Vo]: 9 Billion dollars in instant energy savings for California

[Christopher Arnold]

Robbin,

The point is everyone here SHOULD care about getting
ripped off, but how many of you have actually
applauded Arnold for his HYDROGEN initiative or his
H2 Hummer after forgiving or ignoring such criminal
behavior?


CA

--- Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 In reply to  Christopher Arnold's message of Wed, 18
 Oct 2006
 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT):
 Hi,
 [snip]
 Has Enron ever given back the 9 Billion dollars to
 California? The primary reason Arnold was swept
 into
 office as I recall, the Governor at the time was
 ready
 to prosecute Enron for that 9 Billion dollar theft
 -
 has it been resolved.
 
 Chris
 
 Actually the Californian population were
 deliberately manipulated
 into electing him so that he could forgive the
 debt, which he
 promptly did as soon as he assumed office, if I
 remember
 correctly. Not for nothing did the powers that be
 want a
 republican in office. With this in mind, you might
 try doing an
 Internet search.
 
 Regards,
 
 Robin van Spaandonk
 
 http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
 
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Re: [Vo]: FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday October 27, 2006

[Christopher Arnold]

So Jones was deluded about Cold Fusion as well as 911
- but Cold Fusion is real, therefore his views on 911
must also be correct. Just look at the Pennsylvania
plane crash pictures of the gouged and burned ground
from impact - will notice tall green grass growing
where the plane was supposed to have impacted. Anyone
with half a brain cell knows that grass does not
spring up over two feet tall moments after it gets
crushed and burned by an airplane crash. But many
people still believe a plane crashed there, even
though there was no sign of an airplane.

Chris

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  WHAT'S NEW   Robert L. Park   Friday, 27 Oct 06  
 Washington, DC
 
  1. STEREOTYPE THREATS: DOES GENDER INFLUENCE MATH
 PERFORMANCE? 
  It does if women expect it to.  When Lawrence
 Summers speculated
  that innate ability might explain why there are
 fewer women in
  math and science, it cost him the presidency of
 Harvard.  A study
  reported in Science by researchers at the
 University of British
  Columbia found that women exposed to bogus
 scientific theories
  linking their gender to poor math skills performed
 more poorly on
  subsequent math tests.  Uncertainty over whether
 they could do it
  presumably affected how hard they tried. 
 Professors over 70 also
  have a notorious stereotype, but I can't remember
 what it is.  
 
  2. HARVARD: CURRICULUM COMMITTEE PROPOSES REASON
 AND FAITH. 
  The world is riven by religious war.  It always has
 been.  We
  live now in an age of science, but it is ancient,
 unfounded
  religious beliefs that are central to national
 disputes over the
  teaching of evolution, stem cell research,
 abortion, euthanasia
  and same-sex marriage.  A Harvard curriculum
 committee has
  therefore recommended that every Harvard student be
 required to
  take one course on the interplay between religion
 and science. 
  It must be framed in the context of social issues. 
 This seems
  certain to influence other universities. 
 Scientists had better
  start getting involved before the zealots take
 over.
 
  3. CONSPIRATORS: HAVE THEY INFILTRATED BRIGHAM
 YOUNG UNIVERSITY? 
  In June, we mentioned the World Trade Center
 conspiracy theory of
  physics professor Steven Jones at Brigham Young
 University
  http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN06/wn062306.html .
  He believes
  the Trade Center was rigged with explosives on
 9/11, with the
  connivance of the U.S. government.  BYU suspended
 Jones pending a
  review of his 9/11 theories, but Jones has now
 agree to retire.
  This isn't his first trip into delusion.  Seventeen
 years ago his
  delusion of geologic cold fusion got Pons and
 Fleischmann at the
  U. of Utah started on a cold fusion delusion of
 their own. 

  4. CELL PHONES ARE ATTACKING SPERM? SO BAN THE DAMN
 CELL PHONES. 
  If they're not attacking sperm, ban them anyway. 
 But there is
  not a chance that the reported low sperm counts
 among heavy cell
  phone users, reported at the American Society of
 Reproductive
  Medicine Conference in New Orleans on Sunday, had
 anything to do
  with cell phone radiation.  The wavelength is far
 too long to
  have any direct chemical effect and the microwave
 heating from a
  cell phone is easily handled by the body's
 temperature regulating
  mechanism.  It's too small to affect sperm, even if
 you put the
  phone in your underpants.  Ashok Agarwal of the
 Cleveland Clinic
  in Ohio, studied 364 men at a fertility clinic in
 Mumbai, India. 
  The real question is what they talk about for four
 hours a day. 
 
  5. INVISIBILITY: WHO KNOWS WHAT EVIL LURKS IN THE
 HEARTS OF MEN? 
  The Shadow knows.  Researchers were able to deflect
 microwaves
  around a copper cylinder, if you happen to see with
 microwaves.
 
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[Vo]: Dense Plasma Focus Fusion

[Christopher Arnold]

Does this sound familiar?  Chris ArnoldUpcoming speaker at COFE IIGeorge Miley, Professor of Nuclear and Electrical Engineering at the University of Illinois and Fusion Studies Lab Director (http://fsl.ne.uiuc.edu) from 1975 to the present, has also been a consultant for Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore, CA • Argonne National Laboratory, Fusion Power Division • Los Alamos National Laboratory • Dept. of Energy, Idaho Operations Office • and Clean Energy Technologies. Recently, George has been researching plasma focus fusion, a new and exciting form of hot fusion and presented the results at STAIF, the Space Technologies Applications Information Forum. Paul Koloc and Eric Lerner will also join a panel discussion with
 George on the expectations for this energy technology.  
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[Vo]: Dense Plasma Focus Fusion

[Christopher Arnold]

Does this sound familiar?   Chris ArnoldUpcoming speaker at COFE IIGeorge Miley, Professor of Nuclear and Electrical Engineering at the University of Illinois and Fusion Studies Lab Director (http://fsl.ne.uiuc.edu) from 1975 to the present, has also been a consultant for Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore, CA • Argonne National Laboratory, Fusion Power Division • Los Alamos National Laboratory • Dept. of Energy, Idaho Operations Office • and Clean Energy Technologies. Recently, George has been researching plasma focus fusion, a new and exciting form of hot fusion and presented the results at STAIF, the Space Technologies Applications Information Forum. Paul Koloc and Eric Lerner will also
 join a panel discussion with George on the expectations for this energy technology. 
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Re: [Vo]: H-Prize Looming?

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,I have posted many times in the past on how my Plasma device is the answer toefficient Hydrogen production, and my non-detonation nanodiamond is one very novel answer to efficient storage of hydrogen. ChrisJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A little incentive is nice...But trying to follow the progress (through the maze of Congress) of this potentially important legislation is not that easy. Now there appear to be four versions of the X-prize bill (HR 5143):http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:h.r.5143But one version has apparently gone to the Senate - and there are always hopes that it will be considered for vote soon - as Senators seem more supportive than other legislators. Maybe the genius - Bush -
 will veto it in the end - who knows how much stupidity is recirculating in the Beltway these days?The H-Prize is intended to attract the brightest minds to attack technological obstacles of moving to a hydrogen economy. This will surely jeopardize oil company profits - so who knows about getting incentives passed. We have seen a lot of 'hollow-talk' about hydrogen and energy-independence coming from this Administration : is all sound and fury... ?The H-prize was modeled after the successful $10-million Ansari X Prize awarded for entrepreneurial space flight. Of most interest to your-truly, and maybe a few others, is the four $1-million prizes to be awarded annually in hydrogen production. Will one be available in 2006?A fairly simple water pretreatment regime, combined with a small electrolysis unit - in every automobile could make the US (in theory) self-sufficient on petroleum (if you are an
 "optimistic-extrapolator," that is ;-)... That level of "independence" can never happen in actuality, due to the lethargy of the infrastructure- but any reduction in oil imports could be important, and allow us to "buy time" as they say.The creators of the Ansari X Prize announced that they too are forming a new Automotive X Prize to focus on the creation of new fuel-efficient vehicles that far exceed anything available on the market today.http://www.xprizefoundation.com/prizes/xprize_automotive.aspRules for the Automotive X Prize may be announced soon, but every time I check it seems they have been pushed back.Anyway, I am planning an official entry into either of these or both - based on improving the results which have been alluded to in recent postings here. Most of the ideas are derivative from what is known loosely as the Joe_Cell combined with the "hydrobooster" and input from Fred and other
 Vos. If anyone out there in Volandia is interested in contributing to a joint effort - let me know. Post directly to me please. All past and future input will be recognized in any final accounting, should miracles happen. There are many challenges and it would take a large RD organization to address them all adequately.Here is one instance - and it may be the last I post on this -IF- there is to be a substantial prize. After all, even alternative-energy-activists enjoy the spirit of competition. But this is indicative of the many problems which arise with anything new.Proto-fact#1 : pretreated water allows for a drastically enhanced production of hydrogen gas in electrolysis.That is major news in itself, but there is a glaring Catch-22. Compared to using regular water in electrolysis, one can get massively more combustible gas than with untreated water (using the most optimistic indicators, of
 course - but lacking firm data) but the Catch is this - after about 5% of the original supply of treated water has been depleted, the increase stops, and you have returned to essentially normal water.Not hopeless. A partial solution to this predicament is somewhat obvious - that being a much larger and ongoing pretreatment setup - with some kind of separation mechanism so that an active level of pretreated water is continuously fed to an electrolysis unit - and depleted water returned. Fortunately, there appears to be a density-gradient to work with.Even so: "easier said then done" - since when you do the numbers, you are going from half-liters and watts -- to 20 gallons and hundreds of watts; and finding a way to separate the active component is probably going to be a big issue.Still the bottom line situation is this: dime-to-dollars.You put a dime of electricity into a pretreatment regime and
 you return about $2-3 in the cost of gasoline (almost a gallon) based on extrapolating the apparent increase in mileage which has been seen (for a few minutes). At least that is the way the situation stands  but needless to say - dangling a million-dollar carrot out there will likely motivate potential sponsors to get involved... even if the results seem "impossible".OTOH maybe orgone is really in there - and it makes you crazy ... Given the Stem-cell legislation veto, there must be an orgone leak in the Rose Garden- or so it would seem. One wonders if there is any hope for the HR 5143 ($ m,m) incentive, given 

Re: [Vo]: Local Boy Claims Efficient Brown Gas Gen

[Christopher Arnold]

Amazing!! Someone using arc discharges to produce hydrogen from water. I do not know if Victor built a model of his, but I have several models (dating back to 1998) and I even sent a photo of one in action to Steve Krivit. Good luck to Victor, it is clear he knows that Plasma is a far far better thing - than electrolysis.Chris ArnoldTerry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  (I wonder if he built a model?)United States Patent Application 20060144693Kind Code A1Villalobos; Victor M. July 6, 2006Arc-hydrolysis fuel generator with energy recoveryAbstractAn arc-hydrolysis fuel generator and method of use thereof, thegenerator comprising a circuit for recovery of electrical energy froman arc. The generator further selectively comprises
 an electricalpotential loop, which recycles electrical energy and a grid placedaround an arc-hydrolysis unit, wherein the grid recovers electrostaticenergy generated by the electric arc discharge to supplement theenergy recoverable from the hydrogen and/or carbon monoxide/dioxidefuel generated from water and/or biomass by the arc-hydrolysis unit.The arc-hydrolysis fuel generator may further comprise a water vaporrecovery system, a steam generation system and/or a gas liquefyingsystem, utilizing fuel generated by the arc-hydrolysis fuel generatorduring use.Inventors: Villalobos; Victor M.; (Marietta, GA) 
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Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

[Christopher Arnold]

Terry,My comments on this are at http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0however I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no imagination, foul, nastypersonalitiesand they havesticky fingers as well.My Pulsed Plasma Drive worked so well for them - they decided to say they invented it! Running a motor with a Tesla Spark gap is something even Tesla did not do,and it is already covered by my work. So much for it not working.Chris Arnold"The invention also extends to apparatus in which an otherwise drivenplasma reactor operating in pulsed abnormal gas discharge mode in turnused to drive an inertially
 damped drag motor."Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  US 7,053,576"AbstractThis invention relates to apparatus for the conversion of massfreeenergy into electrical or kinetic energy, which uses in its preferredform a transmitter and a receiver both incorporating Tesla coils, thedistal ends of whose secondary windings are co-resonant and connectedto plates of a chamber, preferably evacuated or filled with water,such that energy radiated by the transmitter may be picked up by thereceiver, the receiver preferably further including a pulsed plasmareactor driven by the receiver coil and a split phase motor driven bythe reactor. Preferably the reactor operates in pulsed abnormal gasdischarge mode, and the motor is an inertially damped drag motor. The
 invention also extends to apparatus in which an otherwise driven plasma reactor operating in pulsed abnormal gas discharge mode in turn used to drive an inertially damped drag motor." 
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Re: [VO]:Re: Correa Patent Issued

[Christopher Arnold]

Richard,Tonight has been consistent, as someone just informed me that Stanford has hooked up with Chevron to study "their" new discovery of nanodiamond for broad scale industrial applications and something to do with Silicon Vally. The looming question is why I ever thought anyone at Stanford (or any other University that I contacted) would bother to fund my discovery of a never before known, Semiconductive Non DetonationNanodiamond powder?Quite the "common" thing to do.Chris  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris wrote..  My comments on this are at http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1993mode=threadorder=0thold=0however I will say here that the Correa's are common folk, with no imagination, foul, nastypersonalitiesand they havesticky fingers as well.My Pulsed Plasma Drive worked so well for them - they decided to say they invented it! Howdy Chris,Gosh Chris, 
 That's plum disgusting! My sweet ole grandma Blanche Louise Townley, to whom one never attributed a "cuss word" would have understood and appreciated the " common" remark. One must be veddy British to appreciate the depth of disgust the use of this word implies.  Richard __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [VO]:Re: Correa Patent Issued

[Christopher Arnold]

Richard,You might remember that I once sought investors in hydrogen, fusion and nanodiamond from the highly intelligent members of this forum - except nobody believed anything I said. Nanodiamond is a Trillion Dollar business that I will not be seeking investors for anymore - as I will attempt to finish what I started myself. My posting of Stanford/Chevron simply proves that "they" are not asresistant to changeas many of the self righteous members of this group would appear to be. Stanford/Chevron finally realized how tremendously valuable my discovery is, and invested - just not with the inventor and all that refused to assist me have lost a great opportunity.Please don't take that the wrong way, but it is as plain as the nose on your face and as simple as a fact can be.ChrisRC Macaulay wrote:  Chris wrote..  Tonight has been consistent, as someone just informed me that Stanford has hooked up with Chevron to study "their" new discovery of nanodiamond for broad scale industrial applications and something to do with Silicon Vally. The looming question is why I ever thought anyone at Stanford (or any other University that I
 contacted) would bother to fund my discovery of a never before known, Semiconductive Non DetonationNanodiamond powder?Quite the "common" thing to do.  Howdy Chris,  You read my post on patent themes. Didn't your grandmother ever tell you that people cheat at cards? Hollywood has made a fortunefostering the fable thatgood guys wear white hats. What is to keep bad guys from wearing white hats to fool the gullible?A border cantina ( University) is no place to look for a " friendly " game of cards. The crossed bandeleers and the knife in the boot is a sure sign you are in mixed company. Ah! Stanford .. where all the hopes and aspirations of the simple and pure in heart clash with "silicon valley and US DOE".If you want to make a fortune, move to New Mexico, raise long red peppers and sell
 the strings to the rich tourists. All the patents have expired.Richard   
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Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

[Christopher Arnold]

Mike,As you said, you did not study the Correa patent yet insisted in commenting anyway - which was completely your mistake. To begin with - they are without any doubt using the Alexeff "Plasma Discharge Tube." Look at this was - the wheel is invented and someone eventually uses that wheel on a cart. They are still USING the wheel which was not their discovery.Second, the Correa's are calling it an Orgone Motor, however Reich never used electricity to either create or use Orgone - therefore the Correa's are lying about it's connection to Reich.Others have clearly stated that the Correa's are extremely rude, arrogant and down right nasty people that care only about themselves - and I have provided a post from them that provesthis is true.Forget about their theft of my discoveries - they are lying about Orgone operating their device,
 because it is operated by electricity as clearly stated in the patent - NOT ORGONE.Lastly - I never said that these clowns did not duplicate Reich's discovery of heat rise within the orgone box, in fact I have also duplicated this and it proves Reich was onto something big, but the Correa's are just goofy. I told them I could rebuild the Orgone motor and they assumed that I was talking about my device - however these clowns are completelymistaken because what I proposed to them was not powered by electricity at all, but after their slanderous post calling ME a liar, I decided it was best to forget about further dealings with crazies like the Correa's.The application date ofthe Correa'snewpatent is AFTER I first called them to explain how my device works, and I guess they liked it enough to steal my Plasma Drive and couple it with their copy of the Alexeff Plasma Discharge Tube. 
   Mike - since you still think the Correa's PAGD motor of the past was OU, exactly how much did you invest in this Seminole, Earth saving technology?ChrisMike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  MC: I'm reluctant to get involved in this area again, but some things need persepctive. I have seen the text of, but not studied, the new Correa patent.-- - Original Message - From: Christopher ArnoldTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:45 AMSubject: Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent IssuedTerry,Igor Alexeff invented the Plasma Discharge Tube that the Correas Borrowed and say they discovered it. please see this for yourself
 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%%2FPTO%%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F4291255MC: I looked at the claims and description of the Alexeff device on the referenced link. There is no resemblance to the Correa PAGD, which is apparent if one studies the PAGD patentes, which I have done. Their thread of discovery as descrtibed to me by Paulo is utterly different from Alexeff.The Correas use of my Pulsed Plasma Drive to power their motor is the infringement.MC: The original PAGD patents and claims include driving a motor, which is also illustrated in a early video shown at a conference decades ago,The Pulsed Plasma Drive can never directly produce an abnormal glow discharge which is known of as a weak plasma, compared to the Dense Plasma Focus of my Pulsed Plasma Drive - which is an extremely powerful
 and energetic Plasma, capable of of D+D, D+T and even aneutronic fusion as I told Puthoff in 2000.MC: And Arnold is now making a clear distinction between his device and PAGD? The PAGD discharge releases much more energy than it takes to maintain the conditions for the effect to occur.If the Correa's PAGD Tube is so marvelous, why didn't it impress Eugene Mallove, considering Mallove flatly told me he did "not" believe my Spark Gap Drive (Pulsed Plasma Drive) would work at all. Jim from Sarasota attempted to get an interview with me published by Mallove, who still thought Dense Plasma Focus would never allow atomic Fusion - but it was all too much for Mallove to understand or believe.MC: Arnold is quite confused here. Mallove *was* impressed by PAGD, which as Arnold says is clearly different from his Dense Plasma Focus device.The Correa's new patent was applied after I first contacted them to explain
 how my device was different from the PADG tube, and did not even require containment or working gasses - which they did not believe. You can clearly see they believe me now.As for their work with Orgone boxes - please remember it is from the published works of Wilhelm Reich and the Correas only duplicated it, they did NOT discover anything new in that case, or in the case of my Plasma Drive. And yes - I believe that Reich's Orgone box works - but he had many other more obscure contraptions that worked just as well. Reich never mentioned using either AC or DC Electrical Pulses in his devices - and the Orgone device was not my machine, but a contraption that was based on Reich's Orgone theories (not electrical) - and quite strange looking when I first 

Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent Issued

[Christopher Arnold]

Mike,If you reread the original post where I "complimented" the Correa's and many others, you might notice it was I that was attacked by said Correa. BTW, I contacted over 4000 others not listed from all branches of the Government, NASA and Universities seeking some small assistance, to no avail because I had no credentials, etc and what I said just couldn't possibly be real - but it is.If others want to think I have a bad attitude for calling a Spade a Spade - so be it, but from here out I will work as I can without expecting anything but the SOSfrom others.Maybe some of the vorts should get off your duffs and invest in someone - and since Mike says the Correa's have an OU device - start with them.Best Regards,  ChrisMike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 - Original Message - From: Christopher ArnoldSubject: Re: [Vo]: Correa Patent IssuedChris, some corrections.Mike,As you said, you did not study the Correa patent yet insisted in commenting anyway - which was completely your mistake.MC: I said I did not study the new Correa patent. I did not comment on it. I did study the earlier Correa patents on the PAGD device very carefully, and wrote an article about it for IE.To begin with - they are without any doubt using the Alexeff "Plasma Discharge Tube." Look at this was - the wheel is invented and someone eventually uses that wheel on a cart. They are still USING the wheel which was not their discovery.MC: By this reasoning, any discharge device would do. What Paulo told me and is in their early patents is that the PAGD effect was
 discovered in the course of research on X-ray devices. The explored many electrode configurations -- Alexadra is a qualified technical glassblower. The Alexeff device in your link is not the same confirguration the Coorea used. My understanding is that the effect does not depend on electrode configurations but on the specific operating conditions and external circuitry. .Second, the Correa's are calling it an Orgone Motor, however Reich never used electricity to either create or use Orgone - therefore the Correa's are lying about it's connection to Reich.Others have clearly stated that the Correa's are extremely rude, arrogant and down right nasty people that care only about themselves - and I have provided a post from them that proves this is true.MC: I am aware of email correspondence from the Correas and an associate. I spent a weekend with them as their guest and saw different aspects of their life and
 personality.Forget about their theft of my discoveries - they are lying about Orgone operating their device, because it is operated by electricity as clearly stated in the patent - NOT ORGONE.Lastly - I never said that these clowns did not duplicate Reich's discovery of heat rise within the orgone box, in fact I have also duplicated this and it proves Reich was onto something big, but the Correa's are just goofy. I told them I could rebuild the Orgone motor and they assumed that I was talking about my device - however these clowns are completely mistaken because what I proposed to them was not powered by electricity at all, but after their slanderous post calling ME a liar, I decided it was best to forget about further dealings with crazies like the Correa's.The application date of the Correa's new patent is AFTER I first called them to explain how my device works, and I guess they liked it enough to steal my
 Plasma Drive and couple it with their copy of the Alexeff Plasma Discharge Tube.Mike - since you still think the Correa's PAGD motor of the past was OU, exactly how much did you invest in this Seminole, Earth saving technology?MC: I said that the early patents show the PAGD driving a motor. There was no evidence in the patents, or anything that I have seen, that the system was OU in driving a motor. There is evidence that the PAGD cell is strongly OU. An experiment using two PAGD cells and battery packs showed that the battery packs gained energy over time without connection to an external source of power. As for the reference to "Seminole", I don't know what you are talking about, nor have I made any investment in anything.MC: Chris, you are showing some of the attitudes and behavior of which you accuse the Correas. I have no interest in making any ajudications in this matter as I lack evidence. I present
 witness to what I have seen and done with respect tothe PAGD, not to the recent patent. Some of the phrasing suggests a recognition of problems in interfacing PAGD with the real world which I discussed with Paulo at one time. These may well have occurred independantly to the Correas and Harold Aspden.Mike CarrellChris 
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Re: [Vo]: OT: Stopping Terrorism

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Finally, something I agree with.ChrisHarry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easyway: stop participating in it.-- Noam Chomsky  
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Re: [Vo]: electrostatic cooling

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Tom,My Agema 750 Thermovision camera was used to prove to the patent office - that heat loss within the coil and all attached wireswas detected when the plasma drivewas fired. The device is not a free energy machine, but fusion was indicated using an Eberline PNC4 Neuron counter. SEM/EDS analysis showed transmutation elements are consistently generated from the Plasma reaction, and my Triton III tritium counter measures some form of radioactive gas which is detectable only after firing the Plasma. In my opinion, ghosts have nothing to do with these events.Chris thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Vortexians;Those of you who have been on this list for any length of time have
 heard the reports of cooling associated with F E machines. I am listening to Joshua P Warren, the author of How to Hunt Ghosts, being interviewed on C to C AM, http://www.lemurteam.com/ . What first got my attention was the subject of cooling associated with ghosts. This effect can be photographed with a thermo imaging camera, I've seen this phenomena. This was before our local CBS affiliate dropped Unexplained Mysteries, bummer.Mr. Warren went on to mention electrostatic potential meters, as a tool to detect ghostly phenomena. Then he mentioned ion wind, which is induced by these potentials. It would seem to me that if I were in this field, perhaps my body would get cold. However, would this phenomena manifest in open air, the way it did for the thermo imaging camera. Does anybody know anything about this?Just when I thought things couldn't get any weirder, he recounted a seance held in hanger 84 as
 Roswell. This exercise was conducted as a part of producing an episode of Discovery, which as I recall, is a program which airs on one of the alphabet channels. During the seance, a spirit snake showed up on several of the high definition video cameras they were using. Discovery has decided against airing the video, well there are somethings which conflict with the agenda of the Powers That Be, and that, IMHO, is one of them. Art Bell's question was where he could get a copy of that DVD. I'd like to see it too, but I'm not going to hold my breath. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- 
	
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Re: [Vo]: electrostatic cooling

[Christopher Arnold]

Anything paranormal is not in the best interests of those in control. Evidence of alien beings would cause thought, and that cannot be allowed. It is not as if evidence is lacking, however many simply feel more comfortable in believing that the human race is all that exists of intelligent life in the universe. Meanwhile, other intelligent life has learned to make as little contact as possible with the wonderful, peace loving people of Planet Earth.As for the cooling, I believe it is the dense plasma pulses tapping an inter dimensional energy (I believe it isZPE), with multiple side effects. It is not a simple electrostatic field, but highly charged dense plasma pulses.Christhomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Christopher Arnold wrote:
 Tom,  In my opinion, ghosts have nothing to do with these events.  ChrisI agree, the reason for the post was to raise the question of how the cold spots are formed. Do you have an opinion as to why the coil got cold? IMHO, something (an electostatic potential?) is interacting with the matter, resulting in the cooling. I suppose that the air in the vicinity of the ghostly manifestation gets cold. I'm wondering about possible connections between the two phenomena.I couldn't resist mentioning the snake entities. You will recall the missing NASA moon tapes, do you really think that they lost them? Joshua Warren mentioned harassment as a result of his research. Since snake entities, and The Powers that Be, fit right into my paradigm, I'm not surprised. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Discovery to run those videos on TV, it just doesn't fit with their
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[Vo]: During ASTM testing - our NEW Superlubricant reduced fricton by 48%

[Christopher Arnold]

Energy Efficiency is paramount to reducing our dependency on oil, nuclear and other energy sources. The use of this Super-lubricant will increase the life of friction surfaces and provide greater useful power over the life of the system, be it an electric motor, Liquid Fuel Engine or bearing surface. Industrial testing on high speed stamping equipment begins later this week.Added to a car engine, this product will increase the useful life of all bearing surfaces treated by the lubricant, increase compression and reduce wear that translates directly into higher gas mileage, and increased performance. Tougher than Teflon without toxic gasses. Confirmation literature has been provided by the US and Russian Governments on a chemically similar product, however analysis has revealed our product is at least20% stronger and far purer than the Russian Super-lubricant.   
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Re: [Vo]: electrostatic cooling

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Tom,I am not the only one that has tapped the field with Plasma - there was Chernetski from Russia, Dr. Paul Brown said he did it, there is Dr. Kiril Chukanov creating large Ball lightning. I am creating microburst Plasmoids however I have discovered several completely different methods to generate the Radiant energy effects and I have more to offer than past discoverers - such as my new discovery of a Superlubricant that reduced friction by 48% during ASTM testing. More information will be posted on this as new results are available. What does it mean - better gas mileage, longer engine life, reduced heat from friction andincreased EFFICIENCY in thousands of applications. In industrial applications, friction parts will last many times longer saving time, repair costs and use less energy over the life of the equipment.http://members.aol.com/hypercom59If you have cohered the ZPE, AFAIK, you are the only person who has done it. I'm wondering about the nature of the plasma pulses, I have no clue what you are talking about. Is the plasma organized? I'm thinking about a torroidial plasma vortex thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Christopher Arnold wrote: Anything paranormal is not in the best interests of those in control.Some paranormal events are in their interest, the type that they control Evidence of alien beings would cause thought, and that cannot be
 allowed.The ruling elite goes along with some paranormal, and some they surpress, having photographic evidence of snakes, it would seem conflicts with their agenda, this is, IMHO, personal. It is not as if evidence is lacking, however many simply feel more  comfortable in believing that the human race is all that exists of  intelligent life in the universe.That's the excuse that's some think tank came up with in the '50's Meanwhile, other intelligent life has learned to make as little  contact as possible with the wonderful, peace loving people of Planet  Earth.My explanation involves evil fallen angles and their human cohorts.  As for the cooling, I believe it is the dense plasma pulses tapping an  inter dimensional energy (I believe it is ZPE), with multiple side  effects.If you have cohered the ZPE, AFAIK, you are the only
 person who has done it. I'm wondering about the nature of the plasma pulses, I have no clue what you are talking about. Is the plasma organized? I'm thinking about a torroidial plasma vortex It is not a simple electrostatic field, but highly charged dense  plasma pulses.I wonder, are electrostatic potentials are related to plasma?--- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- 
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Re: [Vo]: Half baked idea

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Gents, I cannot takethis -any longer. Being a Jeweler who builds new technology particle accelerators and makes his own diamonds - I must correct the nonsense of clock groupself synchronization or CGSS. Most jewelers like all their clocks showing the same time, resetting them as often as needed, when they are not busy selling diamonds. Why - who will buy the clocksthat don't have the same time as the majority. This is the same thing as the majority rejecting ideas that do not conform with their own empirical wisdom, so those that chirp the same tune are accepted and clocks that all have the same time MUST be accurate and exactly correct all the time - which provides the appearance of CGSS.Chris ArnoldRobin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi,Someone recently mentioned the phenomenon of all the clocks in aclock shop self synchronizing. My guess would be that this is dueto the transmission of vibrations through the planks they sit on.Mind shift.Protons trapped in the van Allen belts will preces about theEarth's magnetic field lines. Perhaps they too tend to selfsynchronize with the magnetic fields lines as the synchronizationmedium.The magnetic field lines pass right through the planet, and arealso accessible where we live.Any free proton may also tend to preces about the Earth's fieldlines in synchrony with those in the belts, with energy beingtransferred by the field lines (yes I know, magnetic fields do nowork, but in this case they would just be transferring energy fromthose in orbit to those in the lab).During water electrolysis free protons abound, particularly in anacidic environment, and any local
 magnetic field would tend todisrupt the Earth's field - hence the emphasis on non-magnetichardware.Are the protons in a Joe cell being "juiced up" by energytransported to them from others trapped in the van Allen belts?And if so, how is this energy released in the engine?(Randomization of the magnetic axes in the engine might explain"magnetic" cooling of the engine).If anyone sees any potential value in this concept, can they putsome numbers to it?Regards,Robin van Spaandonkhttp://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/Competition provides the motivation,Cooperation provides the means. 
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Re: [Vo]: Half baked idea

[Christopher Arnold]

Robin, Harry, Clocks run by turning gears having force applied to the gear train, and if a gear starts skipping teeth from vibration, the clock will loose time or not operate as the only way to skip a tooth is if that tooth is missing. Vibration has nothing to do with the timekeeping ability of clocks or watches, unless it is from the vibration of the quartz timer, which is electronic and not effected by physical vibration.Timepiecescan beadjusted for temperature and pressure - which can effect the hairspring timing by changes in humidity. Also multiple positions can be adjusted for, butmost old clockson a wall were regulators, tripping the escapement with each repeating swing of the pendulum, and timing was controlled by raising or lowering the pendulum weight. I don't normally say things like this, but I find it highly unlikely that vibration was the factor (more likely
 impossible). If consistent vibration could lower or increase the speed of a clock, it would keep right on going requiring frequent resetting - whereby the pendulum would be adjusted until it kept acceptable time.I believe there were just as many jokesters in the 1600's as there ever where (including here) - and many times a good bridge has been sold for scrap.Best Regards(didn't mean to jump on you Robin)ChrisRobin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:15:49-0500:Hi,[snip]I think both are correct. I have no doubt that jewelers do try tokeep their clocks showing the same time. However I think that adegree of self-synchronization also occurs, for
 the reason statedin my previous email, particularly for clocks that have a heavymovement and consequent strong vibrations.Huygens (in the 1600's) noticed pendulum clocks mounted on the same wallwere synchronised. Do you think someone was pulling his leg when he enquiredabout?!HarryChristopher Arnold wrote:Gents, I cannot take this - any longer.  Being a Jeweler who builds new technology particle accelerators and makeshis own diamonds - I must correct the nonsense of clock group selfsynchronization or CGSS. Most jewelers like all their clocks showing thesame time, resetting them as often as needed, when they are not busy sellingdiamonds. Why - who will buy the clocks that don't have the same time as themajority. This is the same thing as the majority rejecting ideas that do notconform with their own
 empirical wisdom, so those that chirp the same tuneare accepted and clocks that all have the same time MUST be accurate andexactly correct all the time - which provides the appearance of CGSS.Regards,Robin van Spaandonkhttp://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/Competition provides the motivation,Cooperation provides the means. 
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Re: [Vo]: Half baked idea

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Harry,Very good link. What I was commenting on was "ALL the clocks in a clock shop self synchronizing" - which the link specifically referred to only two clocks on the same plank if the conditions were just right and the cases were not heavy, the pendulums would swing in opposite - which is vastly different than the quote. Specifics.In any case, quite interesting.ChrisSomeone recently mentioned the phenomenon of all the clocks in aclock shop self synchronizing. My guess would be that this is dueto the transmission of vibrations through the planks they sit on.Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Huygens (in the 1600's) noticed pendulum clocks mounted on the same wallwere
 synchronised. Do you think someone was pulling his leg when he enquired about?!HarryChristopher Arnold wrote:  Gents, I cannot take this - any longer. Being a Jeweler who builds new technology particle accelerators and makes his own diamonds - I must correct the nonsense of clock group self synchronization or CGSS. Most jewelers like all their clocks showing the same time, resetting them as often as needed, when they are not busy selling diamonds. Why - who will buy the clocks that don't have the same time as the majority. This is the same thing as the majority rejecting ideas that do not conform with their own empirical wisdom, so those that chirp the same tune are accepted and clocks that all have the same time MUST be accurate and exactly correct all the time - which provides the appearance of CGSS.Chris Arnold 
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Re: The Nick Cook Interview

[Christopher Arnold]

Tom,

Tapping the ZPF is just onethingmy device does (IMO)by creating high energy plasma events which trigger strange localized effects. BTW, It is the Plasma that is responsible for the anomalous effects in cold fusion, fusion and Ken Shoulders EVO transmutation events. I suspect Cook is also triggering plasma into action, and why not if it works? My work is very different from Ken as I use60 - 350 VDC to generate a very destructive plasma.

I have found commercial applications for my Plasma that avoid the Toxic Waste destruction, Hydrogen Production, Nuclear Remediation,Transmutation, Fusion and ZPE (etc.) attack syndrome, and usually limit mentioningthese areastoebay. Personally, I like the potential markets that Synthetic Diamonds represent, especially the new and unexpected forms that are produced with my equipment - likediamond semiconductors and magnetic carbon. We attempted to solve the sp2/sp3 ratio mystery by having NMR analysis performed on the nanophase diamond powder - except the Carbon spectrum could (and still cannot) be identified.

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Nick Cook, author of Hunt for the Zero Point was interviewed on C to C AM recently. He maintains that we are on the verge of cohering the ZPE. While I would love to see this work, I've yet to see any evidence of it. I'm wondering if anyone has read his book? He is in the process of setting up a website, and perhaps he will take questions. Until I see some experimental evidence for his claims, I will continue to regard both his first and the forthcoming second book as just more vaporware.
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Re: Syngas

[Christopher Arnold]

Sounds like another Plasma Reactor. Destroys wood products, toxic waste, garbage, agricultural waste, petroleum, etc. etc.Does anybody really believe that Plasma could possiblydo all that? 

Regards,
Chris ArnoldTerry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Makes methane from almost anything organic:http://pesn.com/2005/05/16/6900096_Syngas/"The prototype model has already been successfully tested using a number of inputs including low-grade coal, wood waste and other biomass, yielding superior results with lower costs and emissions than currently available technology. The SynGas technology produces electricity and/or pipeline quality synthetic gas, as a replacement for quickly depleting natural gas and oil, at low costs, with the additional benefit of zero airborne emissions."
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RE: Syngas

[Christopher Arnold]

Chris,

The mentioned system converts everything to syngas, not oils. Syngas is a Gas consisting of a combination of methane/hydrogen.Ifyou positively know it is not a plasma system, please share this information.

Chris"Zell, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why would plasma be necessary? This simply sounds like a natural gas version of the new thermal pyrolysis system. You heat up
a pile of waste in a chamber with catalysts - and hope that you can generate fuel at a reasonable price.

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Re: Syngas - Now I know it is a plasma system

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What an Amazing coincidence. Team member at Fairchild International Corp., Mr. Wilf Ouellette contacted me several years ago about my plasma system.My proposal was for Converting oil and organics into syngas. Wilf, under the guise of working as a consultant for an Oil Company was very interested in my technology.

I bet I can even identify each component function of this Canadian Syngas system without any help, because the whole system looks very familiar to me.It looks likemy proposed system, however only a look inside will tell for sure - butI ampositiveit is Plasma based.

I am notsurprisedWilf (a Canadian) believed me -the question is,when will my fellow Americans? 
WarmestRegards,
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Michael Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moin Vorts!When I looked at the lineup up of technologies that they were plugging on that website, and where it was located, I thought that maybe it was being run by that guy in Canada that was building those Brown Gas machines. So... I hit the Contact link, and BOY was I surprised! They couldn't be related could they?!Knuke
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Re: Syngas - Now I know it is a plasma system

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Michael,

Wilf is "claiming" to have designed (but not invented) this companies particular "Revolutionary" Plasma reactor - Santilli's is NOT revolutionary but it is effective. "Mr. Ouellette is not only the designer of but has in addition spearheaded the development of the Gas Generation System" What Wilf, no patent - or didn't you need one to turn a quick profit AH?

If this reactor was provided by Santilli, and Wilf is claiming to havedesigned it, I will bet $100 that Santilli already has (or will within 7 days) court papers in transit for the misrepresentation and omission of the Santilli name. I don't find it funny thatWilf had no ideahow my Plasma patent could possibly work,when I explained (to Wilf) in detail the operation of this New System in October of 2002, and provided the patent information. He was working with Aclade Energy in Alberta and GenOil at the time, right next to these phone numbers is his cell number.
And progress marches on in Canada while the USA sleeps peacefully, unaware of scientific developments that could improve life for our children.

Warmest Regards,
Chris Arnold
Michael Huffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moin Chris,I'm sure you have probably heard of Dr. Santilli. I haven't kept up with the latest, but the last I heard, he was doing pretty well. His website is:http://www.magnegas.com/KnukeAm Samstag, 21. Mai 2005 07:27 schrieb Christopher Arnold: What an Amazing coincidence. Team member at Fairchild International Corp., Mr. Wilf Ouellette contacted me several years ago about my plasma system. My proposal was for Converting oil and organics into syngas. Wilf, under the guise of working as a consultant for an Oil Company was very interested in my technology. I bet I can even identify each component function of this Canadian Syngas system without any help, because the whole system looks very familiar to me. It looks like my proposed system, however only a look inside will
 tell for sure - but I am positive it is Plasma based. I am not surprised Wilf (a Canadian) believed me - the question is, when will my fellow Americans? Warmest Regards, Chris Arnold http://members.aol.com/hypercom59 Michael Huffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Moin Vorts! When I looked at the lineup up of technologies that they were plugging on that website, and where it was located, I thought that maybe it was being run by that guy in Canada that was building those Brown Gas machines. So... I hit the Contact link, and BOY was I surprised! They couldn't be related could they?! Knuke - Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
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Tapping the ZPF, Gravity A wave or somthing unknown

[Christopher Arnold]

I posted some of this on ZPEnergy, JLN and the Hydrino list - however the posts have not yet posted.

One explanation of the following is the direct tapping of the Gravity A wave by ripping atoms apart, which would also account for the transmutations that appeared in analysis.


If I can get $30 Million like Dr. Mills, I will show that funding group proof that tremendous amounts of electrical energy "CAN" radiate from a hydrogen plasma, and I can do it NOW. If I can't prove it - they can keep their money. Even though this is a bold offer and a true scientific milestone, I won't hold my breath on a line forming for a demonstration after the escrow deposit.

HydrogenmayNOT be necessary to produce the effect as the effect was reproduced in AIR, therefore this MUST be a different effect than Dr. Mills is recording - because the Plasma system is unique and unlike the Mills apparatus.

Chris ArnoldNon-Detonation Synthesis - Nano Diamond Powder, another First.http://members.aol.com/hypercom59

I first told of this excess energy in a radio interview in 2004, I believe it was - coincidentally just before Dr. Mills published his claim in the same area. In any case, my high energy Plasma and Dr. Mills low energy Plasma are completely different in properties and production methods. Since hydrogen and vacuum are not requirements - it isuniquely differentthan Dr.Mills work at Black Light Power.

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Re: test

[Christopher Arnold]

Metal Hydrideswill beout (only my prediction) and nanophase diamond will win for safe hydrogen storage. My tabletop particle accelerator (23.5 feet shorter than Lazar's) produces high purity nano phase diamond that soaks up hydrogen like a sponge, just like the literature indicates that it should. http://prelas.nuclear.missouri.edu/Publications/Hydrogen%20Storage%20ANS%20Trans%202001.pdf

I can't blame Bob for tinkering, but he really should consider hydrogen embrittlement when it comes to running H2 through that high power Corvette engine.

Bob once mentioned he did not know of any earth element that the gravity Afield could be accessed from. I suggest if an element is ripped to shreds within a powerful enough Plasma such as mine - the gravity Afield is exposed and that may be what is radiating from the Plasma during thermal runaway and other specific conditions. Any comment Bob?

Regards,
Chris ArnoldRC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Perhaps the silence can be attributed to the Bob Lazer article contained in the Las Vegas news.. see link 
I chuckle at this guy.
GM has spent a small fortune researching metal hydrides for storing hydrogen gas safely for automotive use and Bob comes up with a home made 25 ft particle accelerator for hydride concentration. I love it.
Look at the video of the pipe coming out of the roof of his garage. He must drive em nuts with his ability to attract the press.
Does it work ??
Who knows him well enough to find out. If his work on hydrides represents a valid technology, whoopee doo for him !!

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Re: OT: Game NOT Over

[Christopher Arnold]

Captured little UFOs have little weapons - and the little ships, should have come from a base ship.Has anyone considered the weaponry available to the defense of the Base Ship? If the Aliens ever wanted to attack us weare totallydefenseless even with the most advanced duplications of Alien technology. Even a small UFO, such as Lazar revealed as thesport model isinfinitely superior to our most advanced military fighters.

Picture a fragile 30 foot ship with puny particle beam weapons attacking a fortified base ship 100 miles across - then ask what good our deployment of space based weapons would be against, what MUST be considered a far superior intelligence? And if that Base Ship could attack from Pluto or through time, joining forces would be futile. What would space based weapons be good for then? Use against Earthings of course.

Unite to fight a civilization so advancedthey can traverse the universe and orTIME at will. If they were going to have attacked the superbeings of planet Earth, they would have done so long before particle beam weapons were duplicated from their own Alien craft as shot down by thePeace lovingEarthings.

Of course, when we are forced to UNITE to defend ourselves against alien weapons - how will we defend ourselves and what will be required of US to be defended? Let me guess - One World Government, disarmament, subjection to military rule? All because the Aliens that our politicians told us never existed before, have now decided, after thousands of years of watching us - to attack the peace loving Earthlingswithout warning with weapons we cannot even fathom. 

So MacArthur thought we candefend against an interplanetary attack, by what - grabbing pea shooters and joining forces onthe battlefield? The only ones with a proven history of death, destruction and genocide are the Earthlings, which are being watched by an advanced civilization that is simply waiting for us to grown up and realize this.

Chris
Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It is MacArthur's that I find most interesting. "The nations of the world will have to unite, for the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets." Was he insane?BTW, UFO's are very much on topic for this list.
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Re: Syngas - For Terry Blanton

[Christopher Arnold]

Terry,

This may seem like a silly question, but don't you remember multiple posts on high efficiencyPlasma treatments and syngas/hydrogen production in my Plasma? Wilf Ouellette, nowwith Fairchild, have simply copied the US Patented plasma systemthat I presented toWilf in 2002. I even went out on the limb here and called the Plasma effects Free Energy in several posts, because of the anomolus radiations,uses and unique high efficiency plasma production method.

In a post fromThomas Malloyon Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:21:27he suggested I contact Dick Chaney and the Break Through Energy Physics Research Project, BEPR - but it seems like the only people that believed me live in Canada. Does anybody believe me now?

Regards,
Chris



Re: What is the flashpoint? From Butch


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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:35:36 

In a message dated 10/30/01 4:06:30 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Chris,
 I remember reading that 5000 degrees F. was the "cracking point" for water.
 Regards,
 Butch LaFonte 

Thank you Butch, 
I knew somebody here had the answer.  I did call the fire department and the 
chief mentioned the magnesium fire would cause repeated explosions as water 
was applied - however he suggested calling a physics lab for possible reasons 
for it. 

Since my device runs on plasma anyway - a jet of water injected directly into 
the 25,000 Plus degree Plasma would crack the water "for free" (at no 
additional cost) - providing a cheap source of hydrogen as "another" side 
effect of normal device operation. The electrodes are Tungsten and Platinum 
however my patent specifically calls for "electrical conductors from the 
group of high melting point .." Iridium, Rhenium, Tungsten, Platinum - 
take your pick. 
Plasma Transmutation is not only possible, it can be done by many different 
methods - and Jed, you were correct - right "here" in the USA. Now, what do 
you think the metal sphere is for?

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Chris

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Re: MAHG update hypothesis

[Christopher Arnold]

Correction, From Hals own lips on video - said he "did" witness Chernetski's Plasma Discharge device and was extremely excited by what he appeared to see it doing. He then invited Chernetski to Austin, however the death of Chernetski prevented his participation. Considering that Plasma is the life blood of the universe, anything is possible when usingPlasma correctly.

Regards,
Chris ArnoldJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jean  "Rather than invoking ZPE, Dirac or hydrinos, ISuspect that the explanation could be LENR. So Iwould suggest to simply try deuterium gas instead ofhydrogen."Since he is seeing OU-heat without D2 now, whatnuclear reaction do you see as supplying the excessheat now?Let me see if I can even suggest candidates:1) H + H -- D2) H + W -- ?3) Accelerated decay of an isotope of W4) Accelerated release of the stored enery of anuclear isomer of W Given the unlikihood of any of these, to my way ofthinking ZPE is the more likely source of the excessenergy here (if that concept is expanded to includeDirac) - but part of this premise goes to the largenumber of other experiments involving hydrogen. One of the most controversial is that of the lateRussian Chernitski (that !
 name is
 not spelled correctly) whose work Puthoff supposedly went to see in Moscow,but never got to. Anyone remember the correct detailsof this?Jones__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

[Christopher Arnold]

Mark,

Rather than wait for Hal to respond, Please watch the video of Hal talking about Professor Alexander Chernetski. Hal appears to actually show signs of excitement over his Personal Viewing of Chernetski's work. My work may be aparallelof Chernetski's Anomalous Energy discovery, produced by a different Plasma generation method.

http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rm
This information kindly provided by Bruce A. Perreault 
Warm Regards,
Chris Arnold

Mark Goldes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jones,If memory serves, Hal was unable to see a valid OU experiment. Perhaps due to his arrival in Moscow about the time of Chernitski's demise.I've copied this to Hal who would know for sure.MarkFrom: Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: MAHG update  hypothesisDate: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT)--- Jean  "Rather than invoking ZPE, Dirac or hydrinos, ISuspect that the explanation could be LENR. So Iwould suggest to simply try deuterium gas instead ofhydrogen."Since he is seeing OU-heat without D2 now, whatnuclear reaction do you see as supplying the excessheat now?Let me see if I can even suggest candidates:1) H + H --&!
 gt;
 D2) H + W -- ?3) Accelerated decay of an isotope of W4) Accelerated release of the stored enery of anuclear isomer of WGiven the unlikihood of any of these, to my way ofthinking ZPE is the more likely source of the excessenergy here (if that concept is expanded to includeDirac) - but part of this premise goes to the largenumber of other experiments involving hydrogen.One of the most controversial is that of the lateRussian Chernitski (that name is not spelled correctly) whose work Puthoff supposedly went to see in Moscow,but never got to. Anyone remember the correct detailsof this?Jones
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RE: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

[Christopher Arnold]

Actually, to hell with "someone" reported - what did you hear Hal Puthoff SAY???

Warmest Regards,
Chris Arnold"Zell, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Didn't somebody report that Hal was disappointed because he concluded that Chernetski's work failed to account for power
factor in his output?


From: Christopher Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:00 PMTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update  hypothesis) Chernetski


Mark,

Rather than wait for Hal to respond, Please watch the video of Hal talking about Professor Alexander Chernetski. Hal appears to actually show signs of excitement over his Personal Viewing of Chernetski's work. My work may be aparallelof Chernetski's Anomalous Energy discovery, produced by a different Plasma generation method.

http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rm
This information kindly provided by Bruce A. Perreault 
Warm Regards,
Chris Arnold

Mark Goldes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jones,If memory serves, Hal was unable to see a valid OU experiment. Perhaps due to his arrival in Moscow about the time of Chernitski's demise.I've copied this to Hal who would know for sure.MarkFrom: Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: MAHG update  hypothesisDate: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT)--- Jean  "Rather than invoking ZPE, Dirac or hydrinos, ISuspect that the explanation could be LENR. So Iwould suggest to simply try deuterium gas instead ofhydrogen."Since he is seeing OU-heat without D2 now, whatnuclear reaction do you see as supplying the excessheat now?Let me see if I can even suggest candidates:1) H + H --&!
 amp;! gt;
 D2) H + W -- ?3) Accelerated decay of an isotope of W4) Accelerated release of the stored enery of anuclear isomer of WGiven the unlikihood of any of these, to my way ofthinking ZPE is the more likely source of the excessenergy here (if that concept is expanded to includeDirac) - but part of this premise goes to the largenumber of other experiments involving hydrogen.One of the most controversial is that of the lateRussian Chernitski (that name is not spelled correctly) whose work Puthoff supposedly went to see in Moscow,but never got to. Anyone remember the correct detailsof this?Jones


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Re: Hutchinson Interview (the answer)

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Thomas,

The answer to future power is the plasma drive, and if everyone would re-watch the Chernetski video, everybody may get a better grasp at the importance of the professors work. Does this sound familiar - a small, compact power supply that taps the ZPF?A small power supply is exactly what is required for a small craft. http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rm

There are many valid reasons why Hutchinson and I are ignored by our governments and ISSO- butit is uselessto talk about any of them.
!
What IF, 
within this 11 inch sphere - 
ZPE could actually be tapped from the field. 
Could it then not easily be manipulated for propulsion and "other" uses? http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpulsedQ5fignition
Regards, Chris


thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a program at least strange by Thomas Malloy Standards, John Hutchinson http://www.hutchinsoneffect.com and the physicist David Sereda http://ufonasa.terra-ent.com/ were interviewed on C to C on Sundau morning.I had written a commentary on UFO's as part of the Lamenting Space thread which I don't believe was posted. Since I don't like eating crow, this was a good thing. Those of you who have followed the UFO literature will know that the objects in question perform maneuvers, which if a physical entity were aboard, the effects of inertia, would reduce him to jelly. That is unless inertia could be turned off.. of course. While Puthoff has written a paper speculating about how this feat might be accomplished, AFLIK, that's all it is, speculation. To listen to John and David, this as a demonstrable fact.Then there is !
 the
 propulsion matter. Puthoff has also speculated about this, but AFAIK, that's all it is. Again, John and David were talking about accomplishing just this, Something about a large input of energy, and then away you go. One can only wonder what sort of energy, and how much of it would be required to accomplish this.Given the "gravity" of their claims, I can see why the Pure Energy People were so interested in John's work.It would seem to me that the people who run the military establishment would be all over this, but according to David, John can't get any funding from the government. Then there is Joe Fermage who has all sorts of money to promote his New Age theology, and what well meaning entities the Space Brothers are, but doesn't have any to help fund John's research.I do have a paradigm which explains why this is so, but I don't want to go there.
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Re: Hutchinson Interview

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Richard,

All particles within the ships field envelope move in unison. A glass of water sitting on the floor would not loose a drop as the ship makes a 90 degree turn at 7000 MPH, as the glass and water are within the field. The pilot should notphysically notice a change in direction. I have witnessed these maneuvers and current physics does not apply.

As with Chernetski's plasma and Hutchinsons work - the publically known Rules do not apply either, because these devices are tapping into new areas of science that Governments would rather havePEOPLE ignore. Who then would die in defense of a commodity made almost useless, such as petroleum?

ChrisRC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Thomas Malloy wrote
Given the "gravity" of their claims, I can see why the Pure Energy People were so interested in John's work.
Indeed, Thomas! This question could be of " grave" concern for those inside a UFO. I have speculated on what would happen If during a radical change of course the pilot decided to " change course". Would the UFO go in both directions at once ?
This stangehappening is oftenexhibited in political " science" so why not in Physics ?
Richard
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G forceHarry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

[Christopher Arnold]

Is anyone here seriously interested in a Breakthrough Energy sourceand does anyone else here realize how important Chernetski's work was?


http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/chernetsky.htm

Video link... http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rm

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Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,

Wonderful,now please ask Hal to watch the video of himself disputing what he just told you and Mark. Maybe Hal forgot about his private viewing, maybe he was told to forget about it, or maybe he just wantsEVERYONE ELSEto forget about his video disclosure of such an Earth-shattering discovery. 

I for one am tired of Hal Puthoffs brand of scientific suppression, but if you want to believe what he said, while ignoring what he said - no wonder the USA is falling behind in scientific discoveries. 

Video link... http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rm

Chris

Gasification in Canada based on my proposal to Wilf Ouellette.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ccn/050516/21a58906579d6465ecba4d32a91a3c30.html?.v=2Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Christopher Arnold wrote: Is anyone here seriously interested in a Breakthrough Energy source and does anyone else here realize how important Chernetski's work was?We all realize how important it could have been IF itwere true. Mark and I recieved the follwoing note fromHal a couple of days ago, and I don't think he willmind me posting the relevant points regarding his workand investigation along these lines, as there doesappears to be alot of misconceptions floating about:"I did go to Moscow and got from him [Chernetskii] thecircuit diagrams and, in fact, a complete book he hadwritten on his effect, plus reports from others on hisdevice (though I did not see his device in operation -they were in the process of transferring his lab, if Irecall correctly). We got on very well, and he
 lookedto me like a son to carry on his work.""When I returned I used his information to reproducehis device, and it appeared to function spectacularlyas had been described to me, i.e., when a sparkdischarge was ignited in the circuit, the output lightbulbs burned more brightly while the current from thewall decreased dramatically. However, carefulinvestigation with expensive energy measuringinstrumentation showed that in fact there was not anoverunity factor at work."[This bears repeating - EarthTech did NOT find any OUwith the Cherntiskii device, even though it did appearpromising]"I explained the details to Chernetskii and he said heunderstood that under certain conditions one would getthis apparent but not real O/U operation, butnonetheless, under the right conditions O/U would takeplace. So I was in the process of arranging for himand his wife to come to the U.S. with his equipment for
 tests here when he died.""So the issue remain unresolved, though we didconsiderable experimentation with lour version of hissetup."Hal
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http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/2005/06/08/

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Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,

You sound paranoid talking about the Kings software and all that spy stuff, but we "are" talking about PuthoffwithCIA, NSA etc. etc. connections- maybe he works for the same king.

My business with Puthoff is not open to discussion, but what Hal has provided are two completely different public answers to one very specific question, and a very important question about the Chernetski device.

Question my motives for pointing out the bare facts all you like- but I am not here to deceive you, I never have been nor have I ever worked for the NSA, CIA or any other government agency.

The truthis very simple and beyond question once the video of Hal is compared to his new answer, which is nothing short of attempting revisionist history, regardless of how Chertnetski's device really operates.

Jones, you refuse to watch the video yet you accuse me of what amounts to slandering Dr. Puthoffs good name - yet he has in fact provided two different answers to one question on a topic that could change the balance of power on this Planet, and that is no small matter. Try that under oath and they call your actions Clintonesque.

Please provide the specificreference to Puthoffs quote on the inoperability of my patented Plasma Device. And I know one other Physicistthat knows Hal- and he can't keep a secret, but I can. Regardless of whatHal said about me - the point is whatHal actually said recently and many years ago on a paramount Energy discoveryprovide two completely different answers, and one of them is false.

Warmest Regards,
Chris

Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message - From: Christopher ArnoldWonderful, now please ask Hal to watch the video of himself disputing what he just told you and Mark. Maybe Hal forgot about his private viewing, maybe he was told to forget about it, or maybe he just wants EVERYONE ELSE to forget about his video disclosure of such an Earth-shattering discovery.I for one am tired of Hal Puthoffs brand of scientific suppression, but if you want to believe what he said, while ignoring what he said - no wonder the USA is falling behind in scientific discoveries.Video link... http://www.nuenergy.org/video/chernetski.rmWhoa...who is it that we are we falling behind? And is Hal now part of the mainstream, and is he now actively suppressing working inventions, Ha - what a laugh!Yes, I would like to view this file (!
 when was
 it made?), but it is a RealNetworks format, and I refuse to let anything that the acknowledeged kings of spyware= RealNetworks produce, to run on my computer... not that MS (the creator of WMP) is any saint in regard to privacy, but I have finally gotten that media program under control now, after removing about a hundred registry entries, and I am not going to go through the same thing with another marketing tool disguised as software.Does anyone know - Are there any .rm Codecs for WMP out there? I have been looking ever since I got this ridiculous message from Christopher Arnold, in order to see what he is talking about.Of all people who would shy away from any kind of "suppressioin"...what an unbelievable accussation ... I cannot see how anyone could place Puthoff in that category - as no one of his intelligence has been more personally suppressed and belittled by the mainstream than has Hal Puthoff.!
 And
 yes, I believe what he said in the recent message about his results is absolutely true - despite what may been said in an old interview while fully acknowldging that in "any interview," recent or old - it is possible to give the wrong impression to others with a show of enthusiasm - is that what you are talking about?Sure, Hal believes in strongly in the reality of ZPE, and in an eventual ability to tap into it - he is expected to be very enthusiastic about any invention that promises to harness ZPE - but NO he is not going to support the specific details of any technology that is over-blown - over-hyped or self-deceptive - as was apparently the case with the Chernitskii tube that Hal tried to replicate. The irony is - that tube may work, we will probably never know due to the untimely death.H.P. may believe, and probably does believe that it actually worked for Chernitskii on occasion but that does not!
  relieve
 any scientist from honestly reporting the fact that he was not able to reproduce it following the exact blueprints he got while in Moscow. THIS IS NOT SUPPRESSION. This is good science - you must report the good along with the bad, even if you firmly believe that ZPE is real.It is absurd to accuse Puthoff of any kind of dishonesty or suppression, and until I hear some apology from Arnold on that point, I will not discuss naything futher with him on the underlying technology - which could have very well been real - even if Hal was not able to replicate it.It would not be the first time by far that a replication fell short of its promise but ad hominem attacks are clearly not warranted in t

Re: Chernitski (was Re: MAHG update hypothesis) Chernetski

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,

I am not against you, but people would rather listen to Hal -thenthey should really take a close look at him, his background and "what" he has said Vs what he now says. If Hal hasunkind words about mydevice, why don't you ask him if it is from personal experience and get him to publicly admit it so he can be added to the "experimenting without a License" list. 

Hal and I had an agreement, and he failed to perform - and that is all you get. I often wonder what "agreement" he had with Chernetski and some day I will pop back there and take a look for myself usinga method, that Hal hath provided.

For several years I have been attempting to bring outthe safest possibleusesfor a NewPlasma system,and WHO listened? http://www.fairchildinternational.com/ For a dis-functional Plasma Technology, it looks like a very nice gasificationsystem has been incorporated around it and identical to what I proposed to the current director of Syngas several years ago. http://www.fairchildinternational.com/images/gasunitlarge.jpg

All I can say right now is Thank GodFairchild Internationalis an American Companyincorporated inNevada. Over $1 Million is stock sales over the last 3 months, that will come in handy.

Over20 years ago the NSA tapped allphone lines, so it is too late for paranoia. 

Chris
Plasma Is the life blood of the Universe.Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Christopher Arnold You sound paranoid talking about the Kings software and all that spy stuff, but we "are" talking about Puthoff with CIA, NSA etc. etc. connections - maybe he works for the same king.Jonesee, you *are* aware of HP's involvement with Grillflame, n'est-ce pas? Noone quits the Spanish Inquisition. (I refuse to mention project Clambake.) Jones, you refuse to watchChristos, Jonesee has not refused. His concerns re spyware are valid. The program is available via several FTP sites.Now, back into your corners, gentlemen.
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Re: Solar to Acquire D2Fusion Inc.

[Christopher Arnold]

Congratulations to Russ George and the Canadians backing breakthrough science.

Warmest Regards,
Chris Arnold

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I'm surprised this hasn't been posted on Vortex yet. This is a fairly significant development for cold fusion. Commercial capital is starting to flow into cold fusion in a meaningful way.
Solar Announces Intention to Acquire D2Fusion Inc.Thursday June 2, 9:00 am ET 

VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 2, 2005--Solar Energy Limited (OTCBB:SLRE.OB - News; "Solar") today announced its intention to acquire 100% of D2Fusion, Inc. ("D2Fusion"). Solar has advanced a cash deposit to D2Fusion in anticipation of the acquisition. D2Fusion is a research and development company staffed by scientists and engineers working toward the delivery of proprietary solid-state fusion aimed at entry level heat and energy applications for homes and industry. 
Solid-state fusion is a technology more widely recognized under the name "cold-fusion." Unlike the reactions in "cold-fusion" D2Fusion technology uses much simpler and more reliable solid state processes more akin to high temperature super-conductor physics to produce and control radiation-free fusion reactions. In this simplest form of fusion two hydrogen atoms which are contained and constrained under solid state conditions fuse to form a single helium atom. Each new helium atom created is accompanied, as Einstein's equation E=Mc2 predicted, by an enormous energy release. To put this into a more common perspective under ideal conditions 1 gram of hydrogen fuel holds the equivalent to billions of watts of energy. 
Russ George and Dr. Tom Passell (formerly of EPRI -- the Electric Power Research Institute), who head the Palo Alto based company, have been involved with solid state fusion research since 1989. George's successful experimental prototypes have been tested at Stanford Research Institute ("SRI") with EPRI's assistance for several years. The immediate intention of D2Fusion is to produce kilowatt scale thermal prototypes which will be further tested and refined by collaborating research groups in the Silicon Valley, Los Alamos, the US Navy, and Frascati, Italy. D2Fusion's ultimate goal is to produce heat and electricity at a fraction of today's cost, both achieved with no emissions. 
Solar is well aware of the controversy surrounding "cold fusion" technology. However, Solar believes that there is sufficient global evidence that the risk/reward ratio merits investment. As D2Fusion's prototype technology is scaled to commercial size it will help solve much of the world's energy, water, and pollution problems. 
The science and news surrounding solid-state fusion and D2Fusion can be viewed on the company's website at www.D2Fusion.com. 
Over the next few months, Solar will focus on fulfilling its obligations to purchase D2Fusion as well as concluding its agreement to acquire Planktos, Inc. 
Solar is a public company; its common shares trade on the OTCBB under the ticker symbol "SLRE". 
A number of statements contained in this press release may be considered to be forward-looking statements that are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, including timely development, and market acceptance of products and technologies, competitive market conditions, successful integration of acquisitions and the ability to secure additional sources of financing. The actual results Solar may achieve could differ materially from any forward-looking statements due to such risks and uncertainties. Solar encourages the public to read the information provided here in conjunction with its most recent filings on Form 10KSB and Form 10QSB. Solar's public filings may be viewed at www.sec.gov. 

Contact:  Solar Energy Limited
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Re: Chernitskii (Chernetski)

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,

Secrecy? I shared many details with Mr. Ouellette and look what happened - he is ONLY attempting to sellmy Plasma technologyfor $10 Million dollars in Canada. 

My testing was put off for 11 months and I never got the chance to personallyhavemy devices tested byHal as per our agreement. If Halfailedto properly duplicatemy devices, conditions required (or both) for neutron or energy release - anynegative opinions about my device must stem from unauthorized USE of my patent.Would the esteemed Dr. Puthoff please providepublic detail as towhat mypatented devicesdo not do to his satisfaction?

Jones, I think you are an exceptional person and it was not my intent to put you on the spot, howeverI also trusted Puthoff and all this hastaught me a most valuable lesson.

Trust no one.

ChrisJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris,No one is suggesting or hinting that your particular device doesn't "work." It obviously does something with plasma, but your continued secrecy is hard to justify, since you have a patent in hand.No company with the means to benefit will risk the consequences of IP theft under these circumstances - look what just happened last month with a far lesser-valued idea. Toshiba tried to steal it and now owes the small company near here called SanDisk a whopping $755 million and that is just the start. There is talk that SanDisk may end up owning Toshiba. Every major company in the world see this. And though there are some foolish CEOs out there - the chance of someone actually stealing you idea, or suppressing it, is miniscule. Even Enron wouldn't have gone that far and scum-bag companies like that are getting thi!
 nned-out
 fast.Plus, in the past you have indicated that your invention is NOT primarily for energy production but for waste management or diamond films etc - So the $64 question is - are you now claiming that it is robustly overunity in terms of Pin-Pout and can be used as an energy device?If it is OU, then why not publish data and enlighten us as to what is going on? You seem to want your share of acknowledgement that it is a great discovery, and perhaps it is, but most of the people who follow this forum have been down that road too many times to take someone's word for it... Plus... when the back-story degenerates to some kind of nebulous "conspiracy" then it begins to sound like Jack Carey or Dennis Lee, and I'm sure that you do not want to be identified with that type of self-promoter.Otherwise, if you want to intellectually contribute to the breadth and depth of the ZPE "information pool" which will help o!
 ther
 experimenters to eventually succeed, then that is certainly OK and welcome here too -but it does us all (all who are interested in the maturation of these technologies) a huge disservice to suggest that Puthoff is somehow a tool of the CIA, or whatever. What he did for them years ago involved "remote viewing" and that was in "another lifetime" almost. It is laughable to suggest he is a tool of this present administration, anyway.That kind of loose-cannon talk only serves to diminish your own credibility at a time when you should be thinking positive and putting the best face on your own work - which can be easily accomplished with some level of disclosure.You need real data in the public domain so that replicated experiments and independent verification can follow - just as Naudin/ Moller are doing - ad hominem attacks serve no useful purpose and are actually counter-productive in the
 long-run.Jones
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Re: Fw: Magnetic Power device

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Mark Goldes "speculates" about a magnetically powered unit he's "attempting" to develop. Mark speculates that the energy is coming from the ZPE. 

And Mark only needs a few more Angel Investors to really start making progress - but herefuses to mentionme telling him years ago that I ALREADY had a testable prototype that radiated energy from the plasma. He was so impressed he told me to never call him again - he must have thought I was crazy or something, but now he is saying He has discovered ZPE.

Mark has done OK for himself, after all he has collected about $7Million for the Room Temperature Superconductorswithout producing a marketable product and now he is speculating on a ZPE device that he needs even more money for. How about marketing the superconductors first? 

I also told Mark Goldes (years ago) that I believesuperconductive wire coupled with my Plasma Drivemight be a perfect match for producing evengreater ZPE effects from my Patented device. What he refused to believe, he nowdesires control of - this is why scientific progress is so damn slow.

Mark Goldeswouldmake a seamless fitinto the movie"Contact" as Dr. David Drumland, the man that kept sabotaging Jodi Fosters work and ends up taking credit forabsolutely every-ones scientific discoveries -but Iam notJodi Foster, I still say the radiating energy is what is now called ZPE and care needs to be taken not to over energizethe Plasma..

Mark, don't you remember me telling you about the ZPE and Fusion effectsbeingproduced by the device Now you have discovered ZPE and you only need a few more $Million. Whats next Mark, Dense Plasma Focus Fusion?

ChrisWhitney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Noel D. Whitney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:37 PMSubject: Re: Magnetic Power device REf Yrs on mark Goldes,  has anyone seen or conducted test on any of these pieces of Kit? Or are we in a Stan Meyer scenario again?  Rgds from Ireland.  Noel Whitney - Quantum leap Ltd - Original Message - From: "thomas malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:32 AM Subject: Magnetic Power device   In an interview given to PES, Mark Goldes speculates about a  magnetically powered unit he's attempting to develop. Mark speculates  that the energy is coming from the ZPE. My r!
 esponse
 is, we don't know  that.  http://pesn.com/2005/06/17/9600113_MagneticPowerInc_Pre-Production/  
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Re: Chris Arnold

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Mark,

I agree - unlike you and others, I built functional prototypesFIRST with my own money to provide proof of this revolutionary Plasma technology.I never said I only need another $3 Million to develop something I am "speculating" over. 

The problem with funding was twofold, first nobody believed I could possibly be telling the truth about any ofthe test results and once a few finally did believe me - they either wanted in cheap or demanded controlling interest of this most versatile and valuable discovery. The game is not over yet Goldes, I have only been searching for an honest investor for seven years nowand I know theremust be one somewhere.

Look closely at Wilf Ouellette of Syngas Energyin Canada at http://fairchildinternational.com.Wilf "was" going to invest until he had all the information he required - and now he is attempting to sell my cloned Plasma Reactor to Fairchild International. Wouldn't it have been wonderful "IF" my Plasma Gasification system could have gotten started right here in the USA for $1 Million - instead of in Canada where Wilf is trying to sell it for $10 Million? Fairchild International is valued at $30 Million and their sole focus is based on my Plasma Gasification proposal, as twice presented to the DOE.

Mark, you finally believe ZPE is possible and now you only need funding to explore it - wonderful,now back to my valid point which. Where are the superconductors that investors have already paid you to develop, or are you nowtoo busy studying a "Revolutionary" ZPE idea to bother finishing the last project?

Chris Arnold

Mark Goldes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world energy crisis is so urgent we welcome any system that can make a contribution.Our small firm has chosen to concentrate on ambient temperature Ultraconductors and specific solid-state and rotary devices.His post illustrates precisely why Chris is still looking for financing.MarkFrom: Christopher Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Fw: Magnetic Power deviceDate: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:34:28 -0700 (PDT)Mark Goldes "speculates" about a magnetically powered unit he's "attempting" to develop. Mark speculates that the energy is coming from the ZPE.And Mark only needs a few more Angel Investors to really start making progress - but he refuses to mention me telling him years ago that I
 ALREADY had a testable prototype that radiated energy from the plasma. He was so impressed he told me to never call him again - he must have thought I was crazy or something, but now he is saying He has discovered ZPE.Mark has done OK for himself, after all he has collected about $7Million for the Room Temperature Superconductors without producing a marketable product and now he is speculating on a ZPE device that he needs even more money for. How about marketing the superconductors first?I also told Mark Goldes (years ago) that I believe superconductive wire coupled with my Plasma Drive might be a perfect match for producing even greater ZPE effects from my Patented device. What he refused to believe, he now desires control of - this is why scientific progress is so damn slow.Mark Goldes would make a seamless fit into the movie "Contact" as Dr. David
 Drumland, the man that kept sabotaging Jodi Fosters work and ends up taking credit for absolutely every-ones scientific discoveries - but I am not Jodi Foster, I still say the radiating energy is what is now called ZPE and care needs to be taken not to over energize the Plasma..Mark, don't you remember me telling you about the ZPE and Fusion effects being produced by the device Now you have discovered ZPE and you only need a few more $Million. Whats next Mark, Dense Plasma Focus Fusion?ChrisWhitney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:- Original Message -From: "Noel D. Whitney"To:Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:37 PMSubject: Re: Magnetic Power device  REf Yrs on mark Goldes,   has anyone seen or conducted test on any of these pieces of Kit?  Or are !
 we in a
 Stan Meyer scenario again?   Rgds from Ireland.   Noel Whitney - Quantum leap Ltd  - Original Message - From: "thomas malloy"  To:  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:32 AM  Subject: Magnetic Power deviceIn an interview given to PES, Mark Goldes speculates about a  magnetically powered unit he's attempting to develop. Mark speculates  that the energy is coming from the ZPE. My response is, we don't know  that.  http://pesn.com/2005/06/17/9600113_MagneticPowerInc_Pre-Production/-Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign
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Re: Fw: Magnetic Power device

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Mark,

I agree - unlike you and others, I built functional prototypesFIRST with my own money to provide proof of this revolutionary Plasma technology.I never said I only need another $3 Million to develop something I am "speculating" over. 

The problem with funding was twofold, first nobody believed I could possibly be telling the truth about any ofthe test results and once a few finally did believe me - they either wanted in cheap or demanded controlling interest of this most versatile and valuable discovery. The game is not over yet Goldes, I have only been searching for an honest investor for seven years nowand I know theremust be one somewhere.

Look closely at Wilf Ouellette of Syngas Energyin Canada at http://fairchildinternational.com.Wilf "was" going to invest until he had all the information he required - and now he is attempting to sell my cloned Plasma Reactor to Fairchild International. Wouldn't it have been wonderful "IF" my Plasma Gasification system could have gotten started right here in the USA for $1 Million - instead of in Canada where Wilf is trying to sell it for $10 Million? Fairchild International is valued at $30 Million and their sole focus is based on my Plasma Gasification proposal, as twice presented to the DOE.

Mark, you finally believe ZPE is possible and now you only need funding to explore it - wonderful,now back to my valid point which. Where are the superconductors that investors have already paid you to develop, or are you nowtoo busy studying a "Revolutionary" ZPE idea to bother finishing the last project?

Chris Arnold

Mark Goldes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world energy crisis is so urgent we welcome any system that can make a contribution.Our small firm has chosen to concentrate on ambient temperature Ultraconductors and specific solid-state and rotary devices.His post illustrates precisely why Chris is still looking for financing.MarkFrom: Christopher Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Fw: Magnetic Power deviceDate: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:34:28 -0700 (PDT)Mark Goldes "speculates" about a magnetically powered unit he's "attempting" to develop. Mark speculates that the energy is coming from the ZPE.And Mark only needs a few more Angel Investors to really start making progress - but he refuses to mention me telling him years ago that I
 ALREADY had a testable prototype that radiated energy from the plasma. He was so impressed he told me to never call him again - he must have thought I was crazy or something, but now he is saying He has discovered ZPE.Mark has done OK for himself, after all he has collected about $7Million for the Room Temperature Superconductors without producing a marketable product and now he is speculating on a ZPE device that he needs even more money for. How about marketing the superconductors first?I also told Mark Goldes (years ago) that I believe superconductive wire coupled with my Plasma Drive might be a perfect match for producing even greater ZPE effects from my Patented device. What he refused to believe, he now desires control of - this is why scientific progress is so damn slow.Mark Goldes would make a seamless fit into the movie "Contact" as Dr. David
 Drumland, the man that kept sabotaging Jodi Fosters work and ends up taking credit for absolutely every-ones scientific discoveries - but I am not Jodi Foster, I still say the radiating energy is what is now called ZPE and care needs to be taken not to over energize the Plasma..Mark, don't you remember me telling you about the ZPE and Fusion effects being produced by the device Now you have discovered ZPE and you only need a few more $Million. Whats next Mark, Dense Plasma Focus Fusion?ChrisWhitney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:- Original Message -From: "Noel D. Whitney"To:Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:37 PMSubject: Re: Magnetic Power device  REf Yrs on mark Goldes,   has anyone seen or conducted test on any of these pieces of Kit?  Or are !
 we in a
 Stan Meyer scenario again?   Rgds from Ireland.   Noel Whitney - Quantum leap Ltd  - Original Message - From: "thomas malloy"  To:  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:32 AM  Subject: Magnetic Power deviceIn an interview given to PES, Mark Goldes speculates about a  magnetically powered unit he's attempting to develop. Mark speculates  that the energy is coming from the ZPE. My response is, we don't know  that.  http://pesn.com/2005/06/17/9600113_MagneticPowerInc_Pre-Production/Christopher Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:








Mark Goldes "speculates" about a magnetically powered unit he's "attempting" to develop. Mark speculates that the energy is coming from the ZPE. 

And Mark only needs a few more Angel Investors to really start making progress - but herefuses to mentionme telling him years ago that I ALREADY had a testable 

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Re: proposed fusion reactor

[Christopher Arnold]

Tokamak has proven itself to be a winner, because for some reason it always gets funding.thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I was surfing and came across this link. These people are building a new Tokamak. Well, hope springs eternal.http://www.iter.org/index.htm
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Re: proposed fusion reactor

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones, you sound upset with me for some reason.


My apologies to Richard HULL formisspelling his last name - I am getting old.

So, if you still think Hal did not see the Chernetski device - it must meanyou never did look at the Hal Puthoff video where he said he did. Now I understand. Hal can't remember what he once saw and said - and I spelled Hulls name wrong which makes anything "I" say suspect. Well - OK.

Farnsworths Fusor never produced Fusion, now that's news to me as well. Wait - it was not kept secret but Hull posted "another" account of it in 2004 - but the event happened in 1960's and Fisher was told to keep quiet about it? Notkept secret?

Of course you are correct, it was not kept secret because the account was finally revealed AFTER FOURTY YEARS. And after keeping the whole thing quiet for 40 years - a couple guys with No Names andmemory issues now say Farnsworth lied about the numbers 40 years ago but they couldn't talk about then.SO who can be believed, the guys that kept it quiet for 40 years, or a dead inventor that designed the system and was tossed out when things got interesting?

Jones - why don't you take the time to reread Hull's article about the event, the brilliant light, the neutron count and the "No Need" to report such a meaningless event. It's all there for anyone to read, whatever the real truth is after all these years - the Tokamak is the onlyfusion devicegetting funding. Hull said there was more to that story - but it looks like he is not going to talk about it any time soon - but maybe in another 40 years

ChrisJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Richard Hall knows what happened at ITT and he also said he knows about an "event" that occurred with the fusor that had to be kept secret."Like the Puthoff/Chernitskii false information, this is another very confused and inaccurate conclusion. There was no cover-up, no conspiracy and no fusion. Why does this "disinformation" keep appearing on vortex? It just serves to fuel the skeptics when the truth comes out. Please, at least take the time to look up facts before posting this kind of crap.Richard **Hull** not Richard Hall, does know about the so-called "runaway event" at ITT - but it was not kept secret, instead ... well, read for yourself:http://fusor.net/board/view.php?bn=fusor_historynewskey=1102708965__Do !
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Re: Cluster Impact Fusion (CIF)

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Frank,

From the sound of this, the molecule temperature is raised to 2.42 Million degrees F before being slammed into the steel, except I suspect this is a plasma reaction much like hot and cold fusion.Isn't it a strange coincidence how Tom Clator is making tritium with a 2000 volt plamsa, which reading about it makes this sound like "normal" cold fusion. If it is going to happen,it is going to happen inPlasma.

ChrisGrimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following up on Richard's reference, viz. =Another link on Kowalski http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/=I came across this rather interesting pieceon Cluster Impact Fusion (CIF).===Cluster Impact Fusion (CIF) "was studied at Brookhaven National Laboratory (8). Intrigued by the CF controversy, Friedlander and his co-workers accelerated microscopic droplets of heavy water (containing about 1300 D2O molecules each) to a modest kinetic energy, about 220 eV per molecule, and observed what happens when droplets collide with a solid target. The idea was to test whether or not fusion occurs in a suddenly compressed droplet. The name of the phenomenon, cluster impact fusion !
 (CIF) was
 given to the process after hot-fusion-like events were identified on the basis of protons and tritons with appropriate energies. Neutrons were also most likely present but the experiment was not set up to detect them. The only unusual thing about the CIF was the number of fusion events. There were 10^10 times more such events than one would expect by using the accepted hot fusion theory. The temperature that a tiny droplet could possibly reach, after being stopped at the target, was certainly below 10^5.This number is 10,000 times smaller than the 10^9 K needed inside a hot fusion reactor setup. In other words, CIF fusion rates are also much too high to be consistent with the existing theory of nuclear fusion." ===Now assuming the experimental work is sound, a factor of 10 billion should not be sneezed at. Also, the factthat the temperature!
  was ten
 thousand times smaller than that needed inside a hot fusion reactor putsthe phenomena firmly in the Cold Fusion [relatively 8-) ]category. This is a truly wonderful piece of experimental evidence. All it lacks is an explanation of what'sgoing on.I feel confident that the explanation lies in the fact that smacking water droplets up against a steel plate not only involves compression strain(obviously) but also tensile strain at right anglesto the firing line.It it this tensile strain, the high speed tearingapart of the water, which gives rise to high pF valueswhich are responsible for the astronomical increasein the number of fusion events over what "one would expect by using the accepted hot fusion theory."One is tempted to cannibalize James Carvilles 1992campaign slogan and say, "it's not the compression,it's the tension, stupid." ;-)It would be interesting to know the result!
  of
 firingeven colder deuteriated water - in the form of the high density ices say - against a steel plate.Another technique worth investigating would be to subject drops of water to extremely high compression,allow them to equilibriate and then suddenly release thepressure.Cheers, Frank GrimerAfter I wrote the above I thought, how on earth can I get people to see that there are always two ways toskin a cat. Perhaps the easiest way is the simplest, i.e. there aretwo ways of increasing a vulgar fraction, increase the numerator or reduce the denominator. Citizens (or subjects in my case) try to increase the denominatorby hard work. Unfortunately they are always swimmingagainst the current of government who constantly increase the denominator by inflation.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the b!
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Re: proposed fusion reactor

[Christopher Arnold]

Duplication of my US Patent that you asked for is right here http://biz.yahoo.com/ccn/050516/21a58906579d6465ecba4d32a91a3c30.html?.v=2

Just because people would rather first ridicule the idea and then steal it does not make me paranoid Jones - but it has made me more critical of the so called professionalswhich I no longer have "Blind" faith in, unlike you. I feel that even if you did watch the Puthoff video, you will never apologize for your inappropriate actions toward me. Youare too lazy togo to your local library and use the public Internet connection to view the video, yet you continue to call me a paranoid conspiracy nut. That's OK, its not your fault - it is just the way people behave these days, hypnotized into not seeking the truth - and ignoring it when they find it.

ChrisJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Christopher Arnold wrote: you sound upset with me for some reason.Chris,This is not personal - this is about a prevalentattitude which unfortunatley exists throughout thisgeneral field of inquiry, LENR - which field hasenough problems of credibility without adding anotherissue which goes deeper than it should: paranoia. Iwas only speaking to that broade "conspiracy issue" inthe post before, and to what is known as "inventor'sdisease." I tried not to personalize this by notincluding your name then.There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyoneexpressing dissatisfaction with the problem of notgetting the funding which you need to continue withyour work - but it serves no good purpose tocontinually post disinformation and insinuation to theeffect that there is some hidden "conspiracy" outthere
 to suppress or steal whatever it is which youhave invented. Quite the contrary - show just one replicatedexperiment, just one, where OU is clearly seen and thefunders will "beat a path" to your door. You will notneed an eBay auction - they will be lining up at yourdoor with checkbook in hand. This is already happeningwith Naudin/Moller and guess what - they will get hugefunding with a seventy year-old idea, which may noteven be patentable. But they are interested in a GOAL,which is not personal enrichment but really goes allthe way to "saving the world" from theself-destruction of over-use of fossil fuels. Andthere is nothing wrong with a pesonal-enrichmentagenda either, so long as that is not the ONLY goal.That is the baseline fact - plain and simple - andlet's not quibble: you may have invented something ofsignificant value - say for converting waste tohydrogen or whatever- but you have not sh!
 own
 anyevidence whatever that you have created a breakevenenergy device - and if you have the results in hand -your failure to show real experimental confirmation isextraordinarily hurtful to your own efforts to marketthe device.That nebulous "conspiracy" which you keep insinuatingis "out there" with Hal or Richard Hull, or the oilcompanies, CIA, the Canadians, or whomever, to somehow suppress or steal your work makes no sense toanyone - and must therefore be a product of you ownimagination and paranoia. That is not the way theworld works. We have a court system that punishescompanies for theft - even $50 billion companies likeEnron cannot buy protection. It might take a while,but that is the way the system works. And this"paranoia" is unfortunately proven to be an integralpart of what Bill Beaty has described as "inventorsdisease". Please read the essay:http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/rules1.html!
 If
 you indeed do have a proven and patented energyinvention, then it is absurd to think it will bestolen because you have posted the results - this infact reeks of the Joe Newman attitude - which is this:when you can't prove that your device works asclaimed, then just insinuate some massive mysteriousconspiracy and throw in a few letters like CIA or GMor GE or even Minnekota. Nobody with any sensenowadays even takes a second look at Newman, becauseof this silly attitude of paranoia and distrust- andsadly the same thing could happen to you if youcontinue to follow his lead on this. The difference isthat you probably have something (actually even Newmanmight have) - but paranoia keeps it from getting outinto public view.  So, if you still think Hal did not see theChernetski deviceHal stated clearly that he saw it, AND tried toreplicated it, AND he found the measurement error andreported that !
 to the
 inventor. End of story, sinceChernitskii passed away and was never able to provethat it worked with better measurement. What good doesit do anyone- to now claim that Hal was not tellingthe truth, that Hal has some hidden agenda or whatever- when there is no way to prove or disprove that thedevice ever worked - other than to build one whichdoes work. Hal went to that expense of trying to proveit worked and found measurement error. There is NOconspiracy here. Farnsworth's Fusor never produced Fusion, now that's news 

Re: proposed fusion reactor - a Conspiracy Vote

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,

You accuse me of detracting and bringing scientific disrespect to the topic of ZPE and LENR.

I missed what you said on 6/25/02 "Hal stated clearly that he saw it" which is exactly opposite of the paraphrased "Hal told me he missed meeting Chernetski but got the papers." as he told both you and Jed.
Of#1 and #2, which is the cover story and which is the truth, or are you really telling me both answers are the truth.

1: "Hal stated clearly that he saw it" (Recent)

2: "Hal told me he missed meeting Chernetski but got the papers." (Original)

Nowhere did I seeyour apology to me? 

ALSO, you mixed the "he saw it" with the original post"he didn't see it" and replications by Puthoff saying there must have been measurement errors making it sound like Hal saw it but there were measurement errors - which is how the CIA works anyway. By tossing all the information into the same pot and blending it to suit the intent of the day and calling me nuts for thinking differently. The above may be a complete misunderstanding - but I only pointed out the two opposite statements by Hal and with those clearly in mind - there can be only confusion on the Chernetski issue.

Hal is a famous scientist, I was also impressed by him and I attempted to use his evaluation of "my" personally constructed devices (that he never witnessed) to gain scientific acceptance. I was consistently put off from going to Austin for 11 months after I closed my business to he the great Puthoff review the devices - however it looks like he thought I was to unimportant to waste his valuable time by keeping to his promise of testing. Sometimes a new device runs so very differently that replication can be extremely difficult without the inventor. 

What is the point, Hal provides two completely opposite answers as the TRUTH and I am the bad guy for pointing out the meaning. Very Scientific, and forget about the radioactive gas and transmutations being produced from my Plasma device - I cannot possibly be believed because I am a troublemaker, conspiracy nut and have the mistaken belief that some Canadian company has replicated my device that Puthoff had some negative things to say about me.

If you are correct Jones - my ideas and method of reasoning do not belong here, or maybe you were just starstruck by the opportunity of chatting with Hal. Scientifically though, you owe me an apology and give Hal my regards when you talk again - but the Chernetski issue is extremely important and"Chernetski'swork", not Hals word - is the issue.

Chris
Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Christopher Arnold wrote: you sound upset with me for some reason.Chris,This is not personal - this is about a prevalentattitude which unfortunatley exists throughout thisgeneral field of inquiry, LENR - which field hasenough problems of credibility without adding anotherissue which goes deeper than it should: paranoia. Iwas only speaking to that broade "conspiracy issue" inthe post before, and to what is known as "inventor'sdisease." I tried not to personalize this by notincluding your name then.There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyoneexpressing dissatisfaction with the problem of notgetting the funding which you need to continue withyour work - but it serves no good purpose tocontinually post disinformation and insinuation to theeffect that there is some hidden "conspiracy" outthere
 to suppress or steal whatever it is which youhave invented. Quite the contrary - show just one replicatedexperiment, just one, where OU is clearly seen and thefunders will "beat a path" to your door. You will notneed an eBay auction - they will be lining up at yourdoor with checkbook in hand. This is already happeningwith Naudin/Moller and guess what - they will get hugefunding with a seventy year-old idea, which may noteven be patentable. But they are interested in a GOAL,which is not personal enrichment but really goes allthe way to "saving the world" from theself-destruction of over-use of fossil fuels. Andthere is nothing wrong with a pesonal-enrichmentagenda either, so long as that is not the ONLY goal.That is the baseline fact - plain and simple - andlet's not quibble: you may have invented something ofsignificant value - say for converting waste tohydrogen or whatever- but you have not sh!
 own
 anyevidence whatever that you have created a breakevenenergy device - and if you have the results in hand -your failure to show real experimental confirmation isextraordinarily hurtful to your own efforts to marketthe device.That nebulous "conspiracy" which you keep insinuatingis "out there" with Hal or Richard Hull, or the oilcompanies, CIA, the Canadians, or whomever, to somehow suppress or steal your work makes no sense toanyone - and must therefore be a product of you ownimagination and paranoia. That is not the way thewo

Re: MAHG Info

[Christopher Arnold]

Maybe now is the time for long overdue Scientific advancement.

I would like to make a confession. 

When I first proposed my ideas, it seemed like absolutely everyone thought I was off my rocker - I realized that being polite and considerate were out of the question if I were to succeed. I was obnoxious, persistent, brutally argumentative, extremely forceful in my commentsand I took the attacks for the better good of everyone concerned - because I Knewwhat my devices could do.

Even the late Eugene Mallove thought I was bonkers for mysilly idea of effortlessly Cracking water with a +13,000 degree plasma and my statements on atomic hydrogenadding tothe reaction were not welcomed either. Early on I thought, maybe - if the plasma is hot enough,I could even make diamond - andI did. I tried to get funding for gassification of MSW, Toxic waste and water treatment - for the benefit of all concerned, yet how could I possibly be telling the truth?

Seeing that beautiful MAHG device on the link below has brought back old memories, and hopefor the future. Being the outcast has not stopped the flow of ideas or my resolve to succeed - because I understandexactly howimportant my work is anditsvalue to our survival as a species. If nobody ever invests, I will keep going on my own until the end - because I believe in myself and the information that was entrusted to me.I expect to succeed, and at very least - those that did not believe in me will enjoy the promised scientific advances  environmental benefits.

What would a device be worth right now, if it could "ONLY" - under EPA standards ofZero Emissions, effortlessly crack the hydrogen from renewable products such as used vegetable oils, alcohols, wateror our 400 year supply of coal? http://www.fairchildinternational.com/ knows, and the plasma drive at the core of this Gassification system is real too, and that Plasma Drive has a US patent that will be protected as best as my new patentattorney can. 

Do wehave another 70 years to discover,Pulsed Plasmareally worked after all?

After seven years though, I am getting tired of repeating myself and by now, I hope you understand that my device not only works, but has industrial value in today's markets and canprovide future markets by making new materials.

Jones, apology accepted on the Putoff / Chernetski issue that Puthoff caused by providing two completely different answers on. How were you to know hewould do such a thing?

Chris Arnold
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Re: MAHG vs BLP reaction

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The energy release from within my plasma chamber was at atmospheric pressure, then instantly jumped to 20 PSI. Electrical energy radiated "pulse"and was captured to drive a load.
Does energy radiating from a plasma sound familiar, or maybe Chernetski will ring a bell?

Chris
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From: "Ron Wormus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: MAHG vs BLP reaction Mike, Does Mills have any runs done at 0.1 atm (~80Torr)? As I understand them, Mills experiments are all run at substantially lower pressures. RonMost of the BLP gas phase experiments have been done in the vicinity of 1Torr. I think the issue is a balance between the basic need for the reactionto take place between isolated H and catalyst atoms, and competing processesthat de-ionize catalysts and recombine H's. There have been some instanceswhere higher pressures were used for specific tests.The pressure involved has to do with the competing rates of reactions, notwhether the reactions will occur. There is a vast parameter space to beexplored. Mills has said almost nothing about the extent of suchexploratio!
 ns,
 publishing only selected findings. To my knowledge Mills workhas been with flowing systems whose properties are defined and stable sothey can be studied. A closed system such as the MAHG is far more complex inall the things that can be going on inside, so conclusions based on pressuredifferences alone are very risky.My point in the MAHG discussion is that elements known to produce BLPreactions are present, so before ZPE is accalimed, tests should be made todetect the BLP reactions whose signatures are well defined by Mills. IFthose signatures are looked for adequately and not found, then we may haveanother energy phenomenon to understand, which would be fine.Mike Carrell
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Atomic Hydrogen from Pulsed Plasma

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There are three basic differences between the Langmuir torch and my Pulsed Plasma device - howevertheyare similar in many ways.

1: my plasma is hotter
2: my plasma is produced unlike any current technologies
3: my plasma generation cost is a fraction of current plasmas

I don't have 70 years to get these points across, and neither do you or your children.

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Re: Nicholas Moller on Langmuir

[Christopher Arnold]

Ed, thatwasa refreshing post.

ChrisEdmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to suggest that all plasma experiments, including Naudin's obtain their extra energy from cold fusion. In this case, the tungsten cathode is the nuclear active environment into which p+ and d+ are driven by the high voltages used. The unstable nature of the plasma, either by natural processes or by applying pulsed DC, causes a hydrogen flux into and out of the W lattice, which drives a fusion and transmutation process.In any case, it makes no sense for the extra energy to be made by the ionization process involving hydrogen. If this were the source, every electrolytic cell would be OU, which is not the case.EdTerry Blanton wrote:From: "Jones Beene"  Yes. The sequential process of dissociation/recombination in a plasma or gas is not OU. Too bad that erro!
 r keeps
 getting repeated.   You realize, of course, that this is the entire basis for Naudin's M(oller)AHG experiments.  I am continuing to look into this. Unfortunately, I am a government consultant and our fiscal year just began. Amazing how we can go from no activity to everything is due in "two weeks".  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Nicholas Moller on Langmuir

[Christopher Arnold]

Ed,

Perhaps the vanishing coulomb barrier would explain why gas I produce in my reactorsregisters as radioactive in my tritium monitor, and why SEM w/EDS spectrum is so strange as to suggest transmutations and why Nuclear Magnetic Resonance spectrum produced from my materials comes back as unidentifiable. 

Perhaps certain types of Plasma actually CAN bend the currently understood rules.

Chris

Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jones Beene wrote: Ed,  I would like to suggest that all plasma experiments, including  Naudin's obtain their extra energy from cold fusion.   Then what would be the reaction? H+H --D + e ?Perhaps, but I suggest the more likely reaction is p + d = He3. This possibility can be tested by adding a little D2O to the cell. Going from the normal 6000 ppm to 1% should make a big difference in heat generation.  A transmutation reaction with the W would need to overcome far higher  Coulomb repulsion forces, no?Yes, but once the nuclear active conditions have been created, the Coulomb barrier appears to disappear for all reactions. Other factors appear to determine which reactions occur. At least that is what nature is trying to tell us based o!
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Re: Nicholas Moller on Langmuir

[Christopher Arnold]

Ed, 

I believe I do have fusion reaction products. In 2001 (or so) I had the good fortune to talk with TomClator about fusion from my device. His later experiments and literature also revealTritium production from a different type of Plasma. As I recall it was about 2000 volts but I do not remember the current, however his literature on Tritium production is available on the Internet.

If you watch the video at http://hometown.aol.com/hypercom59/dlc.mpg- there is plenty of heat radiating throughout the chamber in the last two seconds of the video.

Best Regards,
Chris
Well Chris, looks like you already have some evidence for nuclear reaction products. Your set up is identical to the plasma cells using water, in as far as interaction at the W surface is concerned. You split H2 into H+ at the W surface, while a plasma using H2O also forms H+ at the W surface. In each case the H+ is caused to impact the W surface with a significant amount of energy. Quite a bit of study of H2O and D2O plasmas by several laboratories show formation of transmutation products. Also, Claytor produced tritium using this method. You should be seeing the same effect. Add a little D2 to the H2 and you should see a big increase in heat generation.EdChristopher Arnold wrote: Ed,  Perhaps the vanishing coulomb barrier would explain why gas I produce in  my r!
 eactors
 registers as radioactive in my tritium monitor, and why SEM  w/EDS spectrum is so strange as to suggest transmutations and why  Nuclear Magnetic Resonance spectrum produced from my materials comes  back as unidentifiable.  Perhaps certain types of Plasma actually CAN bend the currently  understood rules.  Chris   Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Jones Beene wrote:   Ed,   I would like to suggest that all plasma experiments, including  Naudin's obtain their extra energy from cold fusion.Then what would be the reaction? H+H --D + e ?  Perhaps, but I suggest the more likely reaction is p + d = He3. This possibility can be tested by adding a little D2O to the cell. Going from the normal 6000 ppm to 1% should !
 make a
 big difference in heat generation.   A transmutation reaction with the W would need to overcome far higher  Coulomb repulsion forces, no?  Yes, but once the nuclear active conditions have been created, the Coulomb barrier appears to disappear for all reactions. Other factors appear to determine which reactions occur. At least that is what nature is trying to tell us based o! n many such observations.  Ed   Jones   __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Hydrogen ICE Hybrids

[Christopher Arnold]

YES, there is someone powering Large ICE's with Hydrogen.

http://www.unitednuclear.com/h2.htm
Chris
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We are studying a small rail system for inner Atlanta called the Beltline Project. The type of vehicle is wide open and we are presently looking at Innorail recently implemented in Bordeaux, Fr. Here's a coworker's paper on it if interested:trb.org/publications/circulars/ec058/15_02_Swanson.pdfWell, as so often happens, I opened my big mouth and asked why we don't do something sustainable and altruistic for the vehicles like a hydrogen ICE hybrid. Everyone liked the fact that it would make world news and thought they could get funding from new sources for such.Has anyone heard of any large ICEs being fueled by hydrogen?__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [OT] Transit Alert

[Christopher Arnold]

The scenario is that of a contract job.Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
We have just been told to shut down all our contracts and send the contractors home. I understand this is for all mass-transit systems in the US.Has anyone heard that they suspect contractors planted bombs in London???
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USA Government has Secured 35,068 patents

[Christopher Arnold]

A search of issued patents reveals the assignment of 35,068 wonderful patents to the "United States." Engines, anthrax, HIV prevention and Radar absorber are just a few of the wonderful things you will never see at Walmart. Your tax dollar is hard at work - hiding all the good stuff.

Included is an atomic hydrogen motor 3,670,494 that operates like the MAHG but sounds more like the original Gray motor which, if my understanding is correct -used expanding Plasma to drive the pistons. If this is true - Gray may have actuallybased his motor on this patent. In any case- as far as I am concerned, Gray was still a genius.

Follow the complete link are see for yourself 

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=0f=Sl=50TERM1=United+StatesFIELD1=ASNMco1=ANDTERM2=FIELD2=d=ptxt

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Re: the Razor's dull edge

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones, 

That was a mosteloquent presentation andI found myself in complete agreement. Your math in other posts is far beyond mylimited mathematicalunderstanding, but yourprecise analysis of this situationimpressed me deeply. 

Any inventor claiming to have broken established laws of science should be prepared to accept the beating of his life first, and later - present the proof one layer at a time. There are too many slick talkingcon-artists, all seeking the fast buck by way of interfering with the affairsof the most ordinary people. But OU by nuclear reaction, offends not the majority of hard working people that have no idea what it all means,it offendsthe most educated minds.

If a device is claimed to be unique and/or a New Technology, maybe that deviceshould be able to produce materials that, when scientifically analyzed - will prove themselves to be heretofore unknown. What then? The most important aspect of any new technology is not the immediate use of that technology, but the possibility of future scientific discovery and its beneficial effect on the population. The answers will come from hard scientific analysisfrom people like you Jones - and hopefully, the answers will benefit mankind and not be sequestered away as with many other disruptive technologies. I may be wrong, but the ability of a Plasma to release energy no longerseems to be a hotissue -howeverthe root causemay bedebatable for years to come.

Oneconsideration as to Ockham's Razor in the case of Plasma, is thatall things are not equal, or self evident. The surface temperature can be hundreds ofthousands of degrees cooler than the core (MIT), and the temperature 1inch away from the surface can be thousands of degrees cooler than that surface. Unexpected events seem to occur within the many different fields of Plasma research from Ken Shoulders transmutationsand the manyreports on LENR's by other methods.

Even though I haveat times(maybe more often than not) been intolerable,my goal was to contribute a small kernel of new truth that otherscouldcomment on, and I appreciate being allowed to participate in a small way. 

Best Regards,
Chris ArnoldJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In looking at any new device claiming overunity, almost every observer who is willing to consider the possibility that mainstream physics is wrong on the larger issue (negentropy) - nevertheless still comes to the table with certain preconceived notions - often rather strongly held theories, based upon their own niche and level of understanding.The MAHG is a case-in-point. If there is a true anomaly here, then we have to ask what is the "ultimate" source of excess energy: LENR, ZPE, the hydrino (redundant ground state hydrogen), or a Langmuir atomic-hydrogen asymmetry?Because of something further - a kind of nebulous allegiance to the logic-maxim of "economy" - better known as Occkam's razor, there is a decided-tendency NOT to see how all of these factors can be strongly interrelated.Perhaps they are all inte!
 rrelated,
 and quite substantially so, such that LENR cannot occur without ZPE first supplying the necessary energy to force H or D into a redundant ground state.Funny. Even in the broader heresy labeled as "pathological science" - the above statement, which adds to the confusion by confounding William of Occkam on top of everyone else in mainstream physics, is probably considered to be the most untenable kind of heresy ... even by the practitioners of less-pathological-science. Kind of reminds me of that famous "whiter than thou" SNL skit... the one with Garrett Morris and Julian Bond.Good I find some degree of contrarian satisfaction and reverse snobbery in being labeled as not just in the lower caste, but among the untouchables of physics... not the lowest-of-the-low, mind-you (Dante's rock-bottom is becoming densely populated with the free-energy scam artists, former Enron execs, war-for-oil neo-cons, and
 ambulance-chasing trial lawyers, etc.).All the while realizing that "what goes around, comes around" and among the first group to "come back around" into the new and improved mainstream of tomorrow's emancipated world of science, will be the a few of the ones who have gone the farthest afield of the present-day luddites (without loosing touch, so-to-speak).JonesYes ... it is not out of the question (or even difficult) to become so far-detached from reality that one looses that all-important firm grip on the merry-go-round of enlightenment. After all, most of what science tells us, is correct. In fact, the hard part is in appreciating how far, and in what directions, that one can depart from the mainstream without loosing that firm grasp.
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Re: Chris Arnold (on Fairchild for the record)

[Christopher Arnold]

Originally Fairchild International stated they had a Revolutionary Gasification technology that mirrored revolutionary points withinmy proposal to Wilf Ouellette, therefore I reasoned that my technologywas being usedby them. I now withdraw my objections due to several reasons, one being over an hour conversation with lead interests in Fairchild International which convinced me that my technology could not possibly be behind their process and the other, their new diluted SEC disclosure form 8-K, which now calls the technology "modern gasification," precluding the possibility that it is actually revolutionary. Here is their disclosure "Syngas is a company incorporated in British Columbia, Canada and its primary asset is an integrated gasification production system that uses modern gasification technologies to produce synthetic gas, hydrogen or electricity (the Gasification Technology)."

Revolutionary or "modern" - I am convinced that I hold several proofs that, at this time - there is no use of my patent in Canada by Fairchild and my concern was not Canadian use but USA use anyway. At this time, I consider the matter closed.

Warm Regards,
Chris ArnoldChristopher Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Mark,

I agree - unlike you and others, I built functional prototypesFIRST with my own money to provide proof of this revolutionary Plasma technology.I never said I only need another $3 Million to develop something I am "speculating" over. 

The problem with funding was twofold, first nobody believed I could possibly be telling the truth about any ofthe test results and once a few finally did believe me - they either wanted in cheap or demanded controlling interest of this most versatile and valuable discovery. The game is not over yet Goldes, I have only been searching for an honest investor for seven years nowand I know theremust be one somewhere.

Look closely at Wilf Ouellette of Syngas Energyin Canada at http://fairchildinternational.com.Wilf "was" going to invest until he had all the information he required - and now he is attempting to sell my cloned Plasma Reactor to Fairchild International. Wouldn't it have been wonderful "IF" my Plasma Gasification system could have gotten started right here in the USA for $1 Million - instead of in Canada where Wilf is trying to sell it for $10 Million? Fairchild International is valued at $30 Million and their sole focus is based on my Plasma Gasification proposal, as twice presented to the DOE.

Mark, you finally believe ZPE is possible and now you only need funding to explore it - wonderful,now back to my valid point which. Where are the superconductors that investors have already paid you to develop, or are you nowtoo busy studying a "Revolutionary" ZPE idea to bother finishing the last project?

Chris Arnold

Mark Goldes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world energy crisis is so urgent we welcome any system that can make a contribution.Our small firm has chosen to concentrate on ambient temperature Ultraconductors and specific solid-state and rotary devices.His post illustrates precisely why Chris is still looking for financing.MarkFrom: Christopher Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.comTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Fw: Magnetic Power deviceDate: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:34:28 -0700 (PDT)Mark Goldes "speculates" about a magnetically powered unit he's "attempting" to develop. Mark speculates that the energy is coming from the ZPE.And Mark only needs a few more Angel Investors to really start making progress - but he refuses to mention me telling him years ago that I
 ALREADY had a testable prototype that radiated energy from the plasma. He was so impressed he told me to never call him again - he must have thought I was crazy or something, but now he is saying He has discovered ZPE.Mark has done OK for himself, after all he has collected about $7Million for the Room Temperature Superconductors without producing a marketable product and now he is speculating on a ZPE device that he needs even more money for. How about marketing the superconductors first?I also told Mark Goldes (years ago) that I believe superconductive wire coupled with my Plasma Drive might be a perfect match for producing even greater ZPE effects from my Patented device. What he refused to believe, he now desires control of - this is why scientific progress is so damn slow.Mark Goldes would make a seamless fit into the movie "Contact" as Dr. David
 Drumland, the man that kept sabotaging Jodi Fosters work and ends up taking credit for absolutely every-ones scientific discoveries - but I am not Jodi Foster, I still say the radiating energy is what is now called ZPE and care needs to be taken not to over energize the Plasma..Mark, don't you remember me telling you about the ZPE and Fusion effects being produced by the device Now you have discovered ZPE and you only n

Re: Fusion is easy

[Christopher Arnold]

Jones,

It does look like a salad bowl. Farnsworth only used a small bell jar, so this guymust havetaste but did he clean out all the blue cheese first? Actually it looks pretty cool, however the larger the vacuum chamber, the harder it is to trigger fusion and the plasmadoes not look very bright. I am not criticizing, just observing - besides, I can only read English (most of the time).

ChrisJones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How long will it be before the $20 billion ITER produces as many fusion neutrons as this way-cool Fusor built by El Dr. Frank?Look at the dome, halfway down -yup, you guessed it this is a glass salad bowl inverted in a machined out mag. tire rim. with lots of second hand parts in the PShttp://www.cientificosaficionados.com/TBO/fusor/fusor.htmI am still ROTFL __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Suspect In Norwich Killing Has Probable Cause Hearing Today

[Christopher Arnold]

No conspiracy, OK - only the story now has "major  important" changes? What else are we not being told, or are we not to ask questions anymore?

Chris
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FYI,http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=2582C7CF-6F58-468E-B7BD-D662698BAB9Dhttp://tinyurl.com/b7cm8Regards,Steven Vincent Johnsonwww.OrionWorks.com__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Suspect In Norwich Killing Has Probable Cause Hearing Today

[Christopher Arnold]

Am I mistaken? The original story had Eugene being shot to death by one man, now they say he was beaten to death and possibly by two people. Will the story change again and how is what I am leading up to?

Chris
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Re: Synthetics drive diamond revolution

[Christopher Arnold]

Jed,

Maybe you know someone interested in investing in my work, semi-conductive - synthetic nano diamond powder. I see the greatest value in high current diodes and diamond transistors, with gemmarkets left to Apollo or De Beers.

Chris 
http://members.aol.com/hypercom59Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Years ago I knew someone who is trying to develop palladium on diamond cold fusion cathodes because he thought the biggest problem with cold fusion was that the heat destroys the substrate. He thought that only a diamond could conduct the heat away from the Palladium quickly enough. I do not know what happened to that project but I think he had a good point. Obviously mass production of this would call for synthetic diamonds.The real value of synthetic diamonds will be the technology they give rise to, such as semiconductors and the excavation machinery I described in chapter 6 of the book. But I think they will also serve as jewelry to everyone's satisfaction except the people at DeBeers. I find this statement amusing:"'[Synthetic diamonds] are chemically, physically and optically identical to mined diamonds,' said Robe!
 rt
 Linares. '(But) we would prefer the fiancee to know she's got an Apollo diamond.'De Beers says synthetic production poses little threat to its market for traditional mined gems, quoting research showing that 94 percent of women want real -- not synthetic -- diamonds."That is ridiculous. 99% of women in the future will not give a fig where the diamond comes from. When the Japanese biologist K. Mikimoto developed cultured pearls grown in oysters on farms in the late 19th century, jewelry experts said that discriminating customers would never buy them. Discriminating customers eventually learned that cultured pearls are larger and of better quality than naturally occurring ones. As far as I know all pearl jewelry today is cultured. The price of pearls has plummeted. In 1917, Pierre Cartier traded a long pearl necklace worth $2 million for a Manhattan mansion . Today I believe a large necklace of that quality would cost
 ~$50,000. There was one sold in 1993 for a record $2.3 million -- just a little more than the 1917 price.Of course, some people -- especially rich people -- will lose interest in diamonds when diamonds become as cheap as dirt. But millions more will buy diamonds, and the overall value of diamond jewelry will probably increase. The total market value of computers is much higher today than it was in 1979 when I purchased my first "personal" computer: a $30,000 Data General Nova minicomputer.Someday I hope that we will develop "replicator"; that is, equipment that can make perfect copies of paintings, sculpture and other works of art. (And of course, pearls, semiconductors and steak dinners.) I mean exact copies down to the level of the molecule and the atom. Any person anywhere will be free to decorate his house with a painting by Modigliani or Rembrandt that is physically indistinguishable from the original at the
 museum. When this becomes possible, people will finally appreciate art for art's sake and not as "collectibles" or incredibly expensive objects.The only problem with this will be that living artists will lose their market. This has already happened to young classical musicians. Today's recording techniques are so good that most customers are satisfied with recordings of Beethoven or Mozart made 30 years ago, so there is no market for new recordings, and a diminished market for live concerts.A replicator would really reduce the crowds at major museums such as the Louvre, but I do not think it would abolish museums. Many of them -- especially the smaller ones -- will still have value because they put paintings in context. The Phillips Gallery in Washington DC is a prime example. The house itself is a work of art, and it was designed the same time the paintings in it were being made. Anyone truly interested in El !
 Greco
 must visit the museum of his works in Toledo, Spain. Indeed, the whole city of Toledo and the view of the city across the river has been preserved much as he painted it, thanks to his influence.- Jed
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Re: New article by Haiko Lietz

[Christopher Arnold]

Jed,

Yes - itis wonderful pioneering work that Putterman patented, with patent number 5,659,173 but it looks like the patent is still in force and will be for some time. Not to cause any arguments - but he did call for sonic Fusion using D+T as "fuels" wherebyPurdue'saddition of acetone is purely inconsequential. Exactly what is wrong with Putterman's objections to unauthorized use of his work and patent even if theory turns out to be completely in error but the principle works as patented?It is my understanding thatcan't patent a theory anyway, that is what copyright is for.

Chris
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Re: Wired article on Jahn

[Christopher Arnold]

There are people that actually refuse to believe that Remote Viewing is real too, despite all the evidence. Actually this article is based on the work of much older studies. Also, Hal Puthoff experimented on this topic with Ingo Swann in the early days of RV in attempts to manipulate machines from a distance.

ChrisJed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some issues and reactions similar to those of cold fusion:http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68216,00.htmlI cannot judge, but some of this research seems impressive. It is statistical in nature and it has not been replicated elsewhere. That puts it in the same category as the top quark.- Jed
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Re: Remote viewing and coral fertilization

[Christopher Arnold]

Remote viewing is real, it does work and I am living proof. I can only comment on what I have personally done, and if you don't believe it worked - look at my patent.

New technologies do not grow on trees and they seldom get invented by following the old established literature - besides, I have had experts in electrical engineering and particle physics tell me that this device's ability tooperation impossible - only to choke in despair when given a private demo. 

So far - all investors have relied on the advice of Scientists and Electrical Engineers, and they all know the device is not supposed to operate, which kills investment. The one thing I cannot find with remote viewing, and I have tried - is an investor. But with the latest prototype I have made nanophase diamond powder, it has been authenticated, it is a very new product and Bucky Diamonds are like Bucky balls - it takes time to gain acceptance.
Chris Arnold[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few additional thoughts regarding the debate over RV: Jed sez: If remote viewing actually exists, it must have a naturalistic explanation. I suppose it must be a subtle form of communication, or coordinated thinking similar to the coral coordination. A person in one part of the  world sees an object -- or remembers seeing it -- and somehow that visual memory reaches another person elsewhere. Perhaps it transmits through a chain of people. Machines positioned outside the skull can already sense the electromagnetic radiation from the brain, and make sense of it, so it  not unthinkable that humans and other animals have a similar capability. But it seems extremely unlikely to me that a person could sense this radiation from the other s!
 ide
 of the earth!Extremely unlikely indeed, if we arbitrarily focus our hypothesis on the premise that RV is caused by "electromagnetic radiation" emanating from the brain. This popular line of thought is precisely the reason why, IMHO, this phenomenon remains largely categorized as a pseudo science by many traditionalists. Most I believe would assume it's ridiculous to hypothesize that my brain waves are capable of traveling through space for hundreds and thousands of miles, like a radio transmitter, and then still be capable of influencing a receptive brain on the opposite side of the world. I think they are right to conclude it's an absurd concept.But that doesn't necessarily mean that their conclusions are the correct one, meaning, it is therefore impossible for RV, telepathy, and other "psychic" phenomenon to exist. They may be looking for the wrong mechanism to explain the experience.Personally, I think there is a far more simple explanatio!
 n for the
 phenomenon. However, I suspect a scientist looking for objective proof using traditional tools like charts and statistical measurements will have a difficult time finding the tell-tale signatures. As such, RV and other psychic phenomenon may for some time yet remain relegated to the outer fringes of science (pseudo science) precisely become these kinds of experiences don't conform easily to traditional testing methodologies based on objective observation.Hopefully, trying to bring this personal manifesto to a reasonably short conclusion, might I suggest that the problem may lie more in our current perceptions of what makes up the core of our INDIVIDUALITY - our sense of SELF. First of all, I would wager that the awareness of our SELF can hardly be considered an objective experience capable of being measured easily in objective terms. And second of all, it may also turn out to be one of the biggest illusions of all - to assume that our current perceptions of our SELF!
  are
 really separate from everyone else's perception of their SELF. I realize that many who read this suggestion might find it highly alarming (to think they are not really who they think they are!), and in our current state of evolution, that may precisely be why there might exist filters in place that help us maintain the illusion of our separateness  individuality from each other. Never the less, I suspect the illusion we defend so passionately occasionally sl!ops over into the so-called collective realms, but we do our best to ignore those little accidents.Ah yes, ACC's "Childhood's End" may yet be our ultimate destiny!No child wants to grow up!Regards,Steven Vincent Johnsonwww.OrionWorks.com
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Re: Remote viewing and coral fertilization

[Christopher Arnold]

Jed, 

Before I started RV, I had several very vivid astral projections and if I may suggest a possibility. The body is an instrument housing a multi-layered entity not of this dimension but connected to the body - call it the soul or pure mind. Throughout "all" recorded history,shamenhave been able to project a layer or part of that soul/mind through time and space to discover new things. 

Proofcan bein retrieved technology that teaches something New and never thought possible. 

ChrisJed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Extremely unlikely indeed, if we arbitrarily focus our hypothesis on the premise that RV is caused by  "electromagnetic radiation" emanating from the brain.As far as I know, nothing else emanates from the brain. What else could there be, neutrinos? Entangled particles? If and when they find something else, it may be a candidate.I suppose a hypothesis might be: remote viewing works; it cannot be electromagnetic; so it must be something new and undiscovered. That seems weak to me. This popular line of thought is precisely the reason why, IMHO, this phenomenon remains largely categorized as  a pseudo science by many traditionalists.I think reproducibility and the s/n ratio are bigger problems. People like me, who are also traditionalists, know that countless aspects of biology cann!
 ot be
 explained. That does not bother us. Personally, I think there is a far more simple explanation for the phenomenon. However, I suspect a scientist looking for objective proof using traditional tools like charts and statistical measurements will have a difficult time finding the tell-tale signatures.What is your simple explanation? It is unclear from this message. It has to be some sort of physical signal. Any physical event can be detected with some kind of instrument. So what kind of detector should we use? If you cannot answer that, then your explanation is not "simple." It is not even an explanation yet.I am sure that if remote viewing is real, there has to be a way to detect the signal with some sort of instrument, because the human brain is an instrument. I do not believe in supernatural powers or events that can only happen in vivo. (Except, as I said before, true love, or the ability to devise tax laws.) On the other han!
 d, the
 brain is many orders of magnitude more complex than any instrument devised so far, so it may not be possible for us, at this stage, to make a detector. But I am sure it is possible in principle. Hopefully, trying to bring this personal manifesto to a reasonably short conclusion, might I suggest that the problem may lie more in our current perceptions of what makes up the core of our INDIVIDUALITY - our sense of SELF. First of all, I would wager that the awareness of our SELF can hardly be considered an objective experience capable of being measured easily in objective terms. . . .That is a subjective or poetic description, not an explanation. That does not give us clue what the physical basis of this phonomenon might be. SELF may be impossible to measure (like true love), but if remote viewing exists, it has to be measurable and it has to have a physical cause, just as surely as you can measure any other bodily function. "Vita!
 lism" --
 the notion that biology is somehow separate from chemistry and physics -- bit the dust in 1828 when Wohler synthesized urea. That was one of the great liberating moments in history, along with Darwin's discovery of evolution. It finally freed mankind from his special and separate place in the universe -- a prison! That notion was one of the most pernicious and destructive mistakes we ever made, along with racism and Roman Numerals. It held us back for centuries.- Jed
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Re: Wired article on Jahn

[Christopher Arnold]

So you agree that RV is real and some are better at it than others?

ChrisTerry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Christopher Arnold Also, Hal Puthoff experimented on this topic with Ingo Swann in the early days of RV in attempts to manipulate machines from a distance.Actually, Pat Price put effeminate Swann to shame. You should do a little research on Price, his performance, and his fate. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Wired article on Jahn

[Christopher Arnold]

Jed,

Respectfully, some people need funding to hire HELP, otherwise they use a pencil and paper. It is not the fault of the discoverer that he ONLY discovered the breakthrough that a hard working professional data cruncher would never have bothered attempting, much less even think of. And how dare two chemists even consider an experiment in Fusion, that is totally unprofessional. Withproper changesto the educational system (some being rammed through now) - the next two smart asses will get shot for the offense and save the real $cientists a load of grief and Excuses for how the information leaked out.

What if - Pons and Fleischmans had $30 Million to set up a lab, computers and data collectors instead of them having the ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC establishment destroy them for daring to break new ground without their approval? $cience does not work that way. Science in America tosses Billions into garbage fusion while it cuts a $20Million RV project that proved itself of real value and spends $350 Million to discover cheap H2 production, exactly what I offered the DOEfor a $100K $200K grant- bothdenied.

My device produces far hotter and more energeticplasma than the PF underwater arc discharge, the tritium monitor shows that a radioactive gas is being detected and many New materials have been produced from reacting with the plasma. I have several scientific reports on these materials but I don't even write down what happens anymore, and I need an investor - now does that make me more unprofessional than PF? 

This is just the way life is, but toinsinuate thatthe fathers of discovery ignorant for not doing everything according to scientific protocol, when the $cientific attackers like MIT falsified the reports as Dr. Mallove attested to, is a little unscientific - isn't it?

Does anyone hear know how to read Carbon NMR spectra, because so far - nobody can tell what the plasma hath produced?

ChrisJed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:If it only occurs once then it isn't scientific -- yet. You have to reproduce it. If you cannot reproduce it, then eventually you must conclude that you did not see it.Nonsense. If you cannot reproduce it you must conclude that it is very hard to reproduce. There's no need to conclude that you did not see it at all (unless, of course, you weren't quite sure you saw it to start with).My statement was sloppy. I did not mean that literally. Mizuno did not conclude that events never occurred. He concluded they were caused by random electronic noise rather than actual neutrons, so they had no deep significance. He turned out to be wrong, but most of the time, most researchers who reach that conclusion are right.When a phenomenon is elusive, with a low s!
 /n ratio,
 and when it may well be electronic noise, a researcher has to draw the line eventually and stop trying to figure out what causes it. That is unfortunate, but life is short and we cannot exhaustively follow up on every single anomaly.There have been a few instances in which irreproducible but high-sigma CF events occurred. The best examples are the 1985 explosion in Fleischmann and Pon's lab, and Mizuno's 1991 massive heat after death event. Even though these could not be reproduced, because of technical difficulties and safety concerns, the researchers themselves never had the slightest doubt the events were real, and anomalous. I have no doubt either, because they fit into the pattern of CF effects that *can* be reproduced.It was most unfortunate that the 1985 and 1991 events were not recorded properly with good instruments, and the physical evidence from them was not preserved. FP and Mizuno were inexcusably
 unprofessional in these instances! Other researchers, such as Patterson, were far worse, because they apparently caused dozens of even hundreds of high-sigma reproducible events, but on all those occasions they used substandard, unreliable instruments and manual data collection (pencil and paper) instead of recording the data in a detailed, coherent, machine readable format. What an idiotic, tragic waste!- Jed
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Re: You have to make a professional presentation

[Christopher Arnold]

Jed,

I agree with you, I must be a sloppy nincompoop. Before I started RV and inventing, I had a jewelry store that just grossed $250K - and I destroyed my income by discovering a new technology and then patenting it myself and used the rest of my life savings building the prototypes and paying for testing that nobody would believe. Actually I feel more like a jackass, but nincompoop works too.

A professional proposal, you mean likemy 79 pagePrivate Placement Memorandum, or did you mean the Power Point presentation. The problem with both of those is that every $cientist that reviewed the patent for prospective investors said for starters the patent was"Impossible" and therefore all the supporting data, such as from Charles Evans, the City University of Hong Kong, Raman spectra from Renishaw and Kaiser must all be fabricated. 

Jed, you are a very intelligent man.On the other hand -you are still notableto advise me how to convince profe$$ional $cientists that already know thatnew PlasmaTechnologies are never discoveredby a Professional Jeweler. 

Warm Regards,
Chris
Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christopher Arnold griped when I said FP and Mizuno should have preserved the data better:Respectfully, some people need funding to hire HELP, otherwise they use a pencil and paper. It is not the fault of the discoverer that he ONLY discovered the breakthrough that a hard working professional data cruncher would never have bothered attempting, much less even think of.You do not need a professional data cruncher anymore. The interface boards from HP (or whatever they call it now) and these other companies all come with marvelous, sophisticated data collection software. Too sophisticated. Even I can't figure out what half these features do, and I used to make data collection gadgets like that back when Z-80 assembly language dinosaurs roamed the earth, making the boulders tremble.In my opinion, any
 researcher who is capable of building innovating new devices and performing valid experiments should also be capable of using modern computers and data collection. Apple computers in particular. Mizuno could certainly have done it. He rebuilds and maintains SEM and other equipment from the 1960s -- stuff with 8" floppy disks, for heaven sake. (Not just him; most professors at the underfunded Japanese National Universities use 30 and 40-year-old equipment.)If you need HELP, you must begin by making a professional presentation of your work. You must show your research in the best light, in a well-written presentation with properly labeled graphs, with error bars. If you can't do that I doubt you are capable of doing a real experiment. If you are too lazy to do that, you do not deserve funding.On very rare occasions I have seen amateur presentations with hand-drawn graphs and spelling mistakes, yet which described exc!
 ellent
 research. Dennis Cravens used to put out work like that. The versions of his papers uploaded at LENR-CANR.org have been extensively cleaned up, with his permission, by me. (Who else?) Researchers from Russia and Japan often have difficulty with English, which is not their fault, so I give them a hand too. If we did not make these papers look presentable, very few people would bother to download them. I know that because I have left a few in their original state. People will not take the time to wade through badly written papers, and you can't blame them for that. I have waded through hundreds, and it is no picnic.What if - Pons and Fleischmans had $30 Million to set up a lab, computers and data collectors instead of them having the ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC establishment destroy them for daring to break new ground without their approval?Actually, they were given $30 million, by Toyota. They were mak!
 ing good
 progress, too. It is a shame their supporter at Toyota died before they succeeded.My device produces far hotter and more energetic plasma than the PF underwater arc discharge, the tritium monitor shows that a radioactive gas is being detected and many New materials have been produced from reacting with the plasma. . . .Great. Do you have any idea how many other people make similar claims? Take a number, join the crowd. Back of the line, please.I have heard from dozens of people who say they have Astounding New Breakthrough Machines. I have read hundreds of papers from these people. Most of them are suffering from a terminal case of Inventor's Disease. If I were to win the $170 million lottery, I would hand out millions to researchers who have done good work and deserve funding, but to be brutally frank, I would not give people like you one thin dime of funding. Not until you stop
 bitching about how the world treats you, and learn to present your information in a full, formal, academically correct way that will impress professional scientists. If you have a valid idea, and you can make a technically convincing presentation of it, and you are willing to make cut the kind of d

Re: Grimer's makes unreasonable demands of Mizuno

[Christopher Arnold]

Jed, from this post it sounds like Mizuno and I are in the same boat. I video taped an experiment where the Plasma/Hydrogen reaction Blew apart the chamber which "almost" took my head off. The same reaction occurs as seen on the video at my website each and every time I operate the device. Since I am not a professor like Mizuno, I have no credibility and been technically run out of town on the proverbial rail, even thoughmy reportsmirrormany other researchers.

Rather than continue to insist my results are reproducible, which must be impossible because nobody else can offer that - I am working on something much more solid, and when finished you may all decide for yourselves if what I havedone is really true.

You are correct Jed - it takes a lot of guts to do the work however the work must be done, and who is responsibleto pay for it -the worker of course.

BTW,it isnot whiningto say that professional scientists ignore unauthorized science - asJed saidit does happenwithinhis post below.

Regards,
ChrisJed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mizuno has plenty of guts, and he was pulling glass shards out of his neck now long ago, but it would have been insane to continue working with closed steel cells after Andrew Riley's death.Mizuno should have repeated the experiment andtaken it to completion with a full video record.He and I agree.It's not as though the experiment wasirreproducible, is it?Yes, highly irreproducible. Also, extremely dangerous and expensive. I doubt he would have seen similar results with bulk Pd even if he had repeated it dozens of times. He goes on to admit thatwith a further 20 specimens he got 15% "clearcases of excess heat." I'm sure an Edison wouldhave been delighted with such a high incidenceof reproducibility. Mizuno's failure to finishwhat he started m!
 ay not
 amount to desertion inthe face of the enemy but it certainly raisesquestions about dilettantism.This is unreasonable. It took him 5 or 10 *years* to do those additional experiments. The materials and instruments cost him personally, out of pocket, over $100,000. Needless to say, practically no journal will publish these results, and he is persona non grata at the university. If he did not have tenure they would have ridden him out on a rail. He has not been promoted by or offered any assistance since 1989. He and the other researchers have suffered endless harassment, ridicule and abuse from the public, the press, and the university. He is a middle class professor with a full time teaching load. He is obligated to do regular electrochemistry research as well, and help grad students. How much more sacrifice do you demand of him? What more could he do? Should he be living in a refrigerator box on the street, !
 having
 spent every his last yen on these experiments? No matter what happens, he will never see a single yen in royalties. All intellectual property goes to the Japanese government.More to the point, where will you find other people willing to do what he has done? If you insist that scientists must live like monks, and suffer outrageous abuse just because they want to do their jobs, no one will be willing to do research.He is, of course, still working on other, more promising and safer techniques. I do not think you have the right to demand that he sacrifice the rest of his life savings, and continue to do an experiment that blew another man's head off. Also, I do not see you or other members of Peanut Gallery anteing up for 100 grams of Pd, a quadrupole mass spec, or any of the other colorful toys one must have to do this research.- Jed!
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Re: Article on energy in National Geographic

[Christopher Arnold]

Ed,

Some people love to distort the true intent of a post by quoting out of context or nitpicking to cause an argument. Both tact's are counterproductive but to be expected in any endeavor designed to increase our understanding of Fusion science or even general science, as some are against progress while most are indifferent to ideas beyond their grasp.

Real progress in fusion will begin when the lead scientists admit that magnetic confinementis anexcessive waste of power - and get rid of it. That will force them to look at Farnsworth type fusion at the expense of the Tokamak cash cow, and reason will give way to common sense and Tokamak will continue to be touted as the "correct" fusion method. 

Bottom line - we must succeedin spite ofthe current fusion experts, people like Pons, Fleischmann, Mizuno, Dr. Storms, Richard Hull, Jed Rothwell and the rest of "US" - or fusion for power will continue to be out of reach.

ChrisEdmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think people in the CF field know and appreciate that two separate issues are important to the field. The first addresses whether the CF effect is real or not, and the second addresses whether commercially useful energy can be produced. It is clear that the effect is real, but it is not yet clear whether useful energy can be made. A few watts in a laboratory does not count when addressing the second issue, which is the thrust of the NG article. Most laboratory devices can not be scaled up in their present form. Until the effect can be produced near the kilowatt level on demand, the phenomenon can not be considered useful. Of course, this fact does not justify rejection of the claims as is common these days. I might add that the same criteria should be applied to hot fusion. In this case, the method is not useful unless excess !
 power is
 in above megawatts because the size of the device is so large.EdMitchell Swartz wrote: At 06:34 PM 7/23/2005, Ed Storms wrote:  Actually, the article was good and the statement about cold fusion was  accurate. Cold fusion is not yet a source of energy of any value.  Cold fusion is, however, a demonstrated phenomenon, which might have a  value in the future, a possibility the article leaves open. Ed   Flip flop. Actually, Ed Storms previously wrote just the opposite:  Proof: "The National Geographic in the August issue has a good article on the  energy problem. They even mention cold fusion - "A few scientists have  claimed that cold fusion, which promises energy from a simple jar  instead of a high-tech crucible, might work. The verdict so far: No such  luck." The article goes on to point !
 out the
 most serious problems with  hot fusion. Not bad, we are now at the "verdict so far" stage. However,  something better work soon because the situation is getting serious. Ed" [Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:28:12 -0700 , Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]  First, the statement, "A few scientists have claimed that cold fusion,  which promises energy from a simple jar instead of a high-tech crucible,  might work. The verdict so far: No such luck." is simply not accurate. As one example, we have made cold fusion phusor  systems capable of producing excess energy of hundreds of thousands of  joules per day. Lower power systems demonstrated  http://world.std.com/~mica/jeticcf10demo.html Other positive reports  at: http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html So in summary, the verdict is: CF works. The conclusion: The article  was not accurate do the degree that Ed Stor!
 ms quoted
 it correctly.  Second, the statement, "... we are now at the "verdict so far" stage.  However, something better work soon because the situation is getting  serious." is also inaccurate. Cold fusion works, and has for many years. Thus, Ed appears to herald  that some, at the inaccurately named and censored LENR site, are apparently less aware of the success of others in the field. [Perhaps that uncertainty, lack of knowledge, is a reflection of their  censorship (about which Gene Mallove complained before his murder).] So the verdict stage is over. CF works and MANY are working to develop  and integrate it. Serious work indeed.  Dr. Mitchell Swartz  ==  Update of Cold Fusion Times http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html also http://world.std.com/~mica/cftrev12-2.html!
  

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Re: United States Patent Class 420/900 HYDROGEN STORAGE

[Christopher Arnold]

http://prelas.nuclear.missouri.edu/Publications/HydrogenStorageinDiamond.pdf

ChrisFrederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



A lot of interesting hydrogen-related patent abstracts:

http://www.patentstorm.us/class/420/900-HYDROGEN_STORAGE.html
420 Alloys or metallic compositions 
900 HYDROGEN STORAGE 

6740450 Hydrogen-absorbing alloy for battery, method for producing the same, and... 
"An alkaline storage battery which is excellent in charge and discharge cycle life characteristics and high-rate discharge characteristics is provided by constructing it using an electrode made of an MmNi type hydrogen-absorbing alloy powders having modified surface. The alkaline storage battery..."
High Pressure Hydrogen Gas Compressors:
http://www.hydropac.com/HTML/hydrogen-compressor.html
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Re: Not what they seem

[Christopher Arnold]

Richard, 

Only because you mentioned it - have you considered that our sun could be the inside of a Black hole residingin a parallel universe? Just a thought.

ChrisRC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Terry, 

Yes , things are not what they seem. This statement extends to most science. 
Way back when I was in school we were taught crude oil came from dinasaurs and decayed vegetable matter and this was in the early 1940's.

I have been posting a few " ringers" . One is that the sun may be a transceiver. Receiving energy in a form we do not understand. This energy could be manifested in an event similar to an arc welder electrode touching a steel surface. The sun could be a giant pece of ferrite metal (iron) with solar flares indicating an imbalance of received energy.

Throwing another " ringer" out.

Saturn the planet with rings. Impossible ! there can be no rings around a planet like Saturn without voiding basic.scientific principle. UNLESS.. we consider there is a useful purpose for the rings. Ah ha ! The rings may be a manifestation of a gyroscope used to keep our local solar system in sinc.
OR.. a more far out thought. The rings may represent a type of " hard drive". SETI works tirelessly seeking signals from space. They may be looking at the task backward. The information they seek may be " stored " on the " discs".. the rings of Saturn.

At some point in the search for CF and new forms of energy we must begin thinking creation is NO ACCIDENT of evolution hit and miss science.
. There is a use and purpose for everything. The fact that rings appear around Saturncould mean there is a purpose for them. 

Theory of a beginning , a big bang etc.may be leadingus astray like the dinasaurs with crude oil.. Creation may not be creation as we attempt to " typecast" it.
It may be " eternal" with no beginning and no end, only never ending phases. This concept is impossible to grasp because we have " time " burned into our thinking. We may be interpreting the bible creation account incorrectly. It may be the event means the earth, andNOT the entire solar system was created in the six time periods which are assumed to cover some 12-15 billion years in our time measurement system. Interjecting bible scripture into science discussion is necessary because it is an important written record of the past. If we could get past the " religion" part and concentrate on the science part we can study the deep insight of what what was recorded . For example, the book of Job is an absolute masterpiece of physics principles that have weathered the years unchallenged. 

Richard


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Re: The Secret of Sonoluminescense: Groping the Elephant

[Christopher Arnold]

Steven,

Show some respect for your elders, at least the ones that deserve it.

Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: "Mike Carrell"... The non-collapse of the hydrogen electron orbit is a puzzle in conventional QM. Puthoff's postulation of an energy exchange with the "ZPE" is just that, a postulate, without any detailed mechanism visible [unless there is something in the paper]. Mills' orbitsphere model of the electron is far more sophisticated and detailed in its exposition, as can be found on the BLP website. Mills' model follows from Maxwell's equations applying the Haus condition of non-radiation, and it integrates with a theory of audacious scope and depth.  I've spent hours in the presence of both Dr. Hal Puthoff and Dr. Randell Mills, but that doesn't prove anything in particular. IMO trying to force ZPE, Casmir, BLP and LENR into the same box by saying any of these is!
 t;
 "really" another is quite futile in the present state of our knowledge. All that can reasonably be said is that physics is in a crisis similar to that in the late 1800's when the accepted paradigms were showing their limitations and new phenomena and candidates were emerging. While the Casmir effect is well accepted as manifested in a particular family of experiments, its "explanation" is somewhat mundane. The BLP and LENR effects shake the foundations of current physics and will require a long process of fitting the pieces of what is well known into a new picture. This could take decades.  Mike Carrell Hi Mike,You present a reasonably satisfying summary in regards to an issue that seems to be causing a considerable ruckus in the chicken coup these days. I would imagine that one of the most difficult aspects pertaining to the on-going theoretical crises is that those who !
 tow the
 party line are probably the least willing to entertain the notion that there might actually be something fundamentally wrong with the current paradigms. It would seem to many observers (particularly within this group) that their job has degenerated, more or less, to the task of killing the fox before he can get any more of their prized chickens. I suspect there are too many foxes, however, and the racket is probably attracting more of the predators, particularly graduate students. The final outcome is inevitable.To state that you've spent hours in the presence of both Put-H-off (Is that better, Terry?) and Mills but also acknowledge that it didn't really resolve most of your questions is indeed revealing of the complexity of the issues involved and the lengthy task at hand.Regards,Steven Vincent Johnsonwww.OrionWorks.com
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Re: Pleasant dreams from the International Association of Nanotechnology

[Christopher Arnold]

It would most probably not require a critical mass as with fission, that leaves fusion.

ChrisJed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:A nano tech nuclear bomb? As I understand it, a critical mass is required to make the bomb explode.Good point. Does anyone have an explanation of how something like this would work?Maybe you don't wanna know.Perhaps there is something on the Association's web site:http://www.ianano.org/The conference announcement goes on to say:"To discuss about the state-of-the-art technological development in Nanotechnology and its impacts to the society at large, you are invited to participate in theInternational Congress of Nanotechnology 2005October 31 to November 4, 2005, San Francisco, USAhttp://nanotechcongress.com [This link seems to be dead]Let your opinion be heard at the Congress!As of July 15, we are pleased to have more than 125 spea!
 kers from
 35 countries. . . ."I wish CF conferences were as popular.- Jed
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Re: Defusing the hot fusion critics.

[Christopher Arnold]

Wesley,

I posted about just this topic on ZPEnergy.com recently and it was about Dr. Diaz at JPL. Now I know Jed and others are going say I am whining over this, however if it was Jed getting ripped off, he would not be taking this so lightly. Another clue that my device is being used will be when they claim a breakthrough has been made of a shield for radiation, as I proposed to NASA several years ago. The "good news" is thatgreed and haste have worked topreventthe technology from being hidden by the US Government, and surprisingly nobody wants to invest in me and profit from my work - sour grapes I suppose,more likelyjust too unbelievable to believe - at this time. Below is the repost from ZPEnergy

Now, before anyone jumps on me - I was told over a year ago that Diaz was using my device, and from the sound of it - theymust havewitnessed it, so possibly they work at JPL too. In any case - it mirrors my proposal to Mark Millis, but the contents areconfidential.

BTW Wesley, Dave Adair (as I recall) already invented the fusion rocket when he was a young boy - so what was it you were referring to that they are "close" to with a Plasma rocket?

Regards,
Chris





Re: Propellantless Propulsion G-Engine via Zero g-force WARP Drive - The Math (Score: 1)by pulsed_ignition on Thursday, July 28, 2005 @ 19:25:11 PDT(User Info | Send a Message) http://members.aol.com/hypercom59 

Gosh Jack, I wonder if the Warp Drive you speak of is anything like what I proposed to Mark Millis at NASA? Hello Mark! Someone high up at JPL (a Dr.) is supposed to be using the PLASMA that my device produces for propulsion - and I was told it was the #2 project at JPL. As I was told - "Dr. X is not using the mechanical energy that your device produces, he is using the plasma for propulsion." Imagine that? Maybe they were just trying to drive me over the edge in telling me this, but no such luck. If our Government would rather steal it than pay for it - this is nothing new. Thank GOD Clinton is not in charge anymore, or he would just give it to the Chinese.ZPE is real and Pulsed Plasma can tap it - which is covered in my US patent.ChrisWesley Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One way to defuse the hot fusion critics is to point out how close they are to having a workable plasma rocket. Their skills in plasma engineering could be so usefully if they stopped banging their head against the wall of stable fusion breakeven and simply uses cold fusion powered plasma propulsion systems. With a cold fusion powered plasma rocket we could get a payload to Mars in under three months at any time of the year. Ask them if their saying that their to dumb to do plasma drives or plasma sails. Are they saying that the only game their any good at is toroidal fusion power; a systems that's been struggling along for 60 years without a watt of usable power? Can they only work for Department of energy grants? Are they not good enough for NASA?
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Successful Solid Synthetic Diamond made - Finally.

[Christopher Arnold]

On Saturday 7/23/05 I was "finally" successful (after over a year of trying) to convert my synthetic diamond powder into a solid pellet that would prove the phase shift from powder to solid diamond would occur at pressures far less than required for sintering diamond powders into polycrystalline diamond or single crystals.

The only problem is upon phase shift into a solid diamond, the material bonded to the inside wall of the custom High Pressure High Temperature (HTHP) chamber and I now needed to hire an EDM shop to cut out and return a one-piece cylinder containing the diamond and pressure pistons inside - so investor meetings could finally be held to finally show the proof that waited within the chamber. The pressure pistons would not budge a micronwith over 2 Million PSI applied to them to push them thru - proving something solid and immovable was within.

A local EDM shop was referred by an EDM manufacturer and very specific and detailed instructions were given for cutting around the diamond. Under no circumstances was the diamond or pressure pistons to be touched by the plasma, as I would cut it out of its enclosure myself. The first thing he did was cut out the diamond and stole it, now the local police are involved and the FBI has been contacted. Without that immovable pellet – over six years of seeking funding is over, and I cannot afford to buy anotherHTHP chamber or wait the 3 months for it to arrive. On top of that someone else has my prototype diamond, made from my unique diamond powder and I can’t begin to start the patent on it until I “see” it and test it. I refinanced my house four months ago because nobody in the industry wouldbelieveme except Novatech Diamond, and they only wanted a minimum of $5000 to press my m!
 aterial
 into wafers or $2 Million for a diamond press - so I did it myself with my own money – and now some asshole has shattered almost 7 years worth of progress and personal investments in a single criminal act.

This is my final post, I will “not” be taking any questions, and since the irrefutable proof I needed to guarantee investors has now vanished, I have nothing left to show or say other than good luck talking about, making the world a better place for “nothing but” people that do nothing useful, as they lie or steal from, or f--- over the few honest people that invest everything in their own unique ideas and hard work. 

Chris Arnold
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The Casmir Effect and ZPE

[Christopher Arnold]

Has anyone considered the possibility that the Casmir Effect is NOT measuring ZPE itself - butthe apparatus arereacting to some other force or effect?

ChrisR C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry,(Using this email because the uni. server is down for some reason).The Casmir Effect works with glass plates. If you read the paper:"Comment on Zero-point Fluctuations and The Cosmological Constant", MichelF.C., Astrophysical Journal, 466:660-667, 1996The approach Casmir used is described as a neat calculational trick not to be taken literally. Schocastic Electrodynamics is described as the poor man's Fourier Transform for dealing with *vacuum polarisation* (not the same). Elsewhere it says that zp of the lattice exists but not for a continuum. I will revise it and may be drop off a few of the important points here.I don't know what BEC is. I remember Puthoff back in 2001 in Brighton describing an American invention which was meant to 'detune' the the zp by creating a beat frequency between two slightly different sized!
  spheres
 which could then just be rectified. He was candid and said it didn't work. This seemed to be a very direct test of the zp *hypothesis*.Not knocking the ideas of the vacuum seeming to having some physical even mechanical property, the following paper is undeniable:Graham and Lahoz, "Observation of static electromagnetic angular momentum in vacuo", Nature Vol. 285, 154 (1980).Quoting them:"It is remarkable that no know 'particle' can be identified as the agent of the observed electromagnetic angular momentum in the exchange with the mechanical detector. However, this does not imply that a new entity has to be introduced, because the concept of energy-momentum carried by macroscopic quasi-static (italics mine) electromagnetic field is already contained in Maxwell's equations. According to these, and as directly implied by our experimental result, permanent magnets and electrets can be used to build a flywheel of electromagnetic energy steadily flowing i!
 n circles
 in the vacuum gap of a capacitor as if Maxwell's medium were endowed with a property corresponding to super-fluidity. The certainly new insight is that the quasi-static Maxwell's field is not merely an unobservable medium of interaction between matter and matter: it has in fact the mechanical properties postulated by Maxwell, in contradistinction to any 'action at a distance' theory."ZP is not the way to explain this. Stick to real experiments and not hyper-extrapolated theory.Regards,Remi.
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Re: Cold Electricity

[Christopher Arnold]

Easy - just ask Lindemann to produce one.

CJ Arnoldthomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Pat Bailey, PhD electrical engineering, of the INE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says that he knows of an investor who is interested in cold electricity.

Pat sent me a .doc file with more information on the subject. If any of you want to read it, let me know.

I have previously expressed my skepticism with Peter Linderman's book on the subject. However, I will happily recant everything if someone produces a working cold electricity machine.
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