Re: [slim] Android Controller App
For some reason, it wasn't downloading in the browser, so I just emailed it to myself, and that worked. It fixes the rotation thing -- it orients itself depending on how I'm holding it, like I'd expect -- so looks good that way. One bug I did notice, though, is that on the Now Playing screen, if you tap the album/track/artist information up at the top, the resulting dialog box is hidden behind other UI elements so can't be interacted with. Not sure if that's a regression or if that's a totally unrelated bug. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Sorry, but I'm not able to do that. When I click on the attachment link (either directly in your message, or by going to the bug and getting to the download link that way), the browser visibly loads something, but then nothing apparently happens. Either I'm a moron and it's just downloading it to some obvious spot where I don't know to look, or it's not able to handle the content somehow. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;670434 Wrote: Ugh... what device are you using? Can you give me the details from Settings/Advanced/About? I'm particularly interested in the screen resolution reported, the screensize and Android version. Evo 3D. 4.3 inch QHD resolution is what it says; that's 960x540 in regular pixels. Android 2.3.3, Sense 3.0. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;670555 Wrote: Thanks. I see a pattern there... other devices I've heard having this issue where in the 4.x inch class too. Do you get the split view mode with navigation on the left, Now Playing panel on the right? Nope, it looks normal, just locked-down to sideways. Although I'm glad to hear that there's a fancy tablet UI, since I plan on getting a Transformer Prime when it comes out... -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;670558 Wrote: Ok, there's hope :-). I do have a build with a (hopefully) smarter way to determine the device characteristics. And it would have an option to disable the landscape mode too. Would you be willing able to test this if I provided an .apk file to download? I could just delete it and re-download from the Market after testing to get back on the automatic upgrade train, right? If so, sure. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;656167 Wrote: We're about to release 1.1.2 to fix the issues HTC users have seen. Please see the following posting for details: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656166#post656166 Just saw it hit the market today -- fixes the scroll issues for me, thanks! One weird thing is that it seems to lock the screen to landscape orientation no matter how I hold it. Not sure if that's intentional or a bug, but either way, it's better than the scroll artifacting. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG for Squeezebox Announced
fuzzyT;668492 Wrote: Still gathering details. Blog post here: I tried it out last night. I've had Rhapsody for some years, so that's the comparison I have. Main differences: 1. The sound quality is supposed to be better, at 320kbps vs. 192kbps, right? I think it was, but it was subtle enough that I couldn't swear that I'd pass a blind test. Slight win MOG. 2. The MOG Squeezebox UI is painfully bad compared to Rhapsody's. There's no way to do arbitrary browsing through genres (Rhapsody's genre browsing along with its key artists, top tracks, etc., make music discovery really great). Adding stuff to your favorites is only possible on an album (never a track) level, and not even consistently then. 2a. Your favorites/library behaves really weirdly: If you add an entire album to it, when you go in to view individual tracks, you don't see the songs from that album at all. But on the other hand, if you add an individual track from an album and go into the album view, you see its album but clicking on it gives you ALL the songs from that album. There's no way to see all the songs that you've chosen, and just the songs that you've chosen. 3. If you don't need mobile (phone) access, MOG is $5/month versus Rhapsody's $10/month. If you do want that, they're the same price at $10/month. (Rhapsody doesn't have a no-mobile plan.) Upshot for me is that I'm cheap enough to probably go with MOG over Rhapsody for half the price, but if you want to use the mobile capabilities, Rhapsody is much better from a Squeezebox perspective, so I'd recommend that. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG for Squeezebox Announced
regalma, for search, the key is to get an Android (or presumably iOS) device with the app on it. Being able to search via actual keyboard is a huge, huge win. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG for Squeezebox Announced
RGibran;669095 Wrote: Long press on a now playing track brings up the 'more' window with options to add TRACK to favorites or playlist. Thanks! That's good to know, and I hadn't thought to try it on the now playing list. (I did try it on the track listing, but it only brought up a menu with None as an option there.) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Logitech Squeezebox Controller broken!!!
mherger;668168 Wrote: The reason we haven't released this build yet is because it breaks tablet mode (split view). I should be receiving an Android tablet today, which should help to get this fixed... Thanks, I appreciate the update. I'll wait for the official release then, since I know otherwise, I'll end up missing out on future updates by accident. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90081 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Logitech Squeezebox Controller broken!!!
If I manually install the pre-release version, will I still get updates to later release versions via the Android Market, or will I have to pay attention and manually install things thereafter? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90081 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Logitech Squeezebox Controller broken!!!
Yes, but like a lot of people, I don't install pre-release software, and have been waiting for the little update notice in the Android Market. Is there a release schedule for the fix? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90081 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's ALAC now open source!
paul.raulerson;666038 Wrote: ALAC support not only puts a product into the largest and (potentially) most profitable environment around, it also forces Apple to improve seriously on the specs. No it doesn't. Apple doesn't have to change a thing, and there's little reason to suspect they will. ALAC has always been the oh yeah, technically this works too stepchild of Apple's supported codecs, and it's not likely they're going to do anything to seriously change it -- particularly if that change would make some ALAC files not operate on the existing devices out there, because who wants to explain THAT nightmare? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91185 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
So, from the sound of crickets, I guess that this is a dead app, eh? It's a pity, because it seems really nice, apart from the bugs. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
martinh;627805 Wrote: Sounds great if there's a chance of a fix. On my Desire S I have the same issue that Pakman00 reported. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=627087postcount=212 Original menu items remain stuck on screen while new ones are scrolled. Seems to be present in any scrollable screen (Music Folder, Playlist, Settings etc.) Same exact behavior on my Evo 3D. Scrolling any list results in the original items remaining there. It makes the app unusable, despite everything else being pretty solid. I'd hoped to come here and see that this was a known issue that was to be fixed soon, but instead it looks like this app is basically dead? Are there any plans to update this app in the future? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11N Wireless Support
garym;533654 Wrote: This is incorrect. Google for lots of discussion/ explicit tests of this. I think you are thinking about an older problem related to mixing b/g (NOT mixing g/n) No, g/n 'has issues' (http://smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30224/100/). It's not a simplistic drops down to g situation, but it is a 50-80% speed penalty, according to their measurements. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox v3 support
Almost all of what the SB1/2/3 do is done through software; there's really not much to the hardware (hence the Slim in Slim Devices). So follow the Squeezebox Server threads, and you'll see what there is to see. Basically, they're not really doing anything that's specific to the old units -- you're not going to get a new visualizer from Logitech, I don't think -- but the new capabilities they introduce work on all forms of Squeezeboxen whenever possible with hardware. And of course you could get a Controller for your SB3 if you want fancy handheld GUI. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Improved Squeezebox config availible for Harmony users.
Pikeharmony;464622 Wrote: Great point and yes I ran it to the same issue. And yes that has been fixed. Nifty. Any idea why it's not showing up for some of us? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67769 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Improved Squeezebox config availible for Harmony users.
corbey;463234 Wrote: My Harmony software didn't find the upgrade, even though I followed the instructions and clicked the Troubleshoot button. Any suggestions? I also didn't see it for my Logitech Squeezebox 2 device, and I haven't hooked my remote up in months. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67769 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Improved Squeezebox config availible for Harmony users.
Will this let you upgrade the firmware by holding down the Brightness soft-key on the Harmony One? I've had to keep the old remote around just for the case of firmware upgrades hitherto... -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67769 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wied Squeezebox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53785 Question: Wired only Squeezebox is a good product? - Yes - No Define good. I doubt it makes any sense for Slim Devices to make it, but two of my three Squeezeboxes are hooked up via Ethernet, so it'd be nice for me personally to have the option. (In fact, the SB1 actually is wired-only, so.) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Where did Recent Searches go?
I would swear up and down that just yesterday my Squeezebox Controller had an entry for Recent Searches that showed searches I'd done on Rhapsody (which is handy, because searching with the scroll wheel is slow), but when I look at it today, I don't see that menu item anywhere. Am I just not seeing it in a non-obvious location? Does it only come out in certain combinations of circumstances? Or am I crazy and it never existed in the first place? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50552 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where did Recent Searches go?
Hmm. That doesn't appear to be how it was working, because I made several searches and the menu didn't appear. A bug, I suppose, then. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50552 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
MrSinatra;290167 Wrote: but all in all, i don't think thats such a big deal. i think the SBC is amazing and i expect these issues to become less and less prevalent. i guess i don't understand why don't the people with problems use updates and factory resets to get to the newest revision? if worse comes to worse, use the SD card option... i think when u hit r2182 you'll find you love it. For people like you, who want to track nightlies and be engaged in the dev process, the Duet is great. For people like me, who expected it to be buggy on day one, but are confident that eventually it'll get polished, it's slightly maddening (because it's so close to being great, yet so fatally flawed right now). But for people who bought it expecting it to work as smoothly as an iPod... yeah, not so much. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Contoller Button Lights Off
dr95;287237 Wrote: Is there a setting to turn the button lights on or off? I know I did not see or change any button settings. The button backlight does not turn on when the screen does. Any suggestions? Thanks Try rebooting the controller (hold down home to turn it off, then back on). The same thing happened to me, and that fixed it. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45769 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SNR on the Controller - what are people seeing?
I mentioned in another thread that the Controller SNR for me gets up around 50 if I'm close to the access point, dwindling linearly down to 20 as I get 50 ft. and a few rooms away. JimC suggested that this was low, and I want to tweak stuff around, but need to know what I'm aiming for. What kinds of numbers are other people seeing? (Go into Settings-Advanced-Wireless Network-[your network] to see it on the Controller.) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46089 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SNR on the Controller - what are people seeing?
JimC;289697 Wrote: Actually, I misunderstood your post to mean signal strength, which is not SNR. My mistake. Oh, I did mean SNR, but also the signal strength on the Receiver whiffles around from 20-30% in the same place where the Controller has an SNR of 25-ish. So you think the SNR is normal, but the signal strength is bad? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46089 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with a Duet
JimC;288870 Wrote: EDIT: Saw your second post just now, and 50 seems low unless you have a lot of interference. I'd suggest a call to Technical Support is in order. Well, the 50 SNR was on the Controller (I believe the SNR rating on the Controller applies to the Controller itself, right?), and the 10% signal strength was on the Receiver; it seems unlikely that they're both broken. I'm planning on experimenting a bit more with router placement (it's sort of buried under the desk right now, right by a bunch of power cords, which has never mattered in the past, but seems non-ideal) and configuration, but I'd appreciate some guidance: 1. What SNR on the Controller should I expect to see when close-up? 2. What SNR on the Controller is the minimum usable level? 3. What signal strength on the receiver is the minimum feasible level for streaming FLAC with no risk of breakup (on a G-only network)? Meanwhile, I was able to play with the Controller with the SB2 in the living room, and it's pretty nifty. It's got some rough edges yet, but I pretty much expected that, and I'm very confident that you guys will give it the spit and polish that I've come to expect from SD/L. (And as a totally tangential note, the Logitech acquisition, whatever else it may or may not do, has definitely been a good thing for Squeezebox packaging. That iPod-like fancy box is a far cry from the utilitarian cardboard of the SB1...) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46001 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need help with a Duet
Just got it today, and am having two problems: 1. The descriptions say that the Controller buttons should be backlit. They're not. I don't see an option to turn on backlighting anywhere. Am I a moron, or do I have a defective Controller? 2. The wireless connectivity is ABYSMAL. I have it sitting in my bedroom, about 50ft away from the wireless router. Connectivity in that room is perfectly fine on my laptop (I used one of those client-side broadband speed tests, and it came out as 6Mbps, which is Internet-connection limited, so a lower bound), so it's not a general wireless problem, but the Squeezecenter web page shows wireless signal strength as 16%. I can't play FLACs at all, as they drop out every few seconds, and even Rhapsody (128kbps CBR Rhapsody!) broke up so much as to be unlistenable. What's going on here? How can I fix it? As it stands, the Duet is completely useless to me, because it can't play music, and that sucks. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46001 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with a Duet
Well, the backlighting was fixed by rebooting the Controller, so I'm neither a moron nor have a defective controller, I guess. As for the wireless networking, what sort of SNR numbers should I see on the Controller? If I'm within five feet of the Wifi router, it's around 50; it decreases pretty linearly down to ~20 as I go 50 ft away. Normal? Awful? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46001 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] When will Duets be more generally available?
So I preordered one from Amazon a while ago (due to them offering a discount and me having a bunch of gift certificates), and they still don't show an estimated shipping date. I realize this isn't wholly in Slogitech's control, but any idea when hardware will make its way through the channel to retailers like Amazon? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
Rupert Dacat;277634 Wrote: Is there any consideration that weighs against getting the duet on e-bay ($390, including shipping)? That Amazon was recently selling pre-orders for less, and probably will sell it for less in the future? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeCenter 7: Wow!
So I just installed SC7, and I have to say, I'm extremely impressed. Great graphic design, much improved usability, more responsive and modern AJAXy feel, much better SqueezeNetwork integration, and just generally a lot more professional and usable looking. This is one of the biggest improvements I've seen in SlimServer. A big pat on the back to everyone involved. Now I'm really eager for a) the Duet to ship (preordered at Amazon), and b) Yahoo to transfer our Yahoo Unlimited account over to Rhapsody, so I can try the Rhapsody integration out. (And also, how amazing is it that the Squeezebox 1 that I bought four years ago gets this kind of major improvement for free? That's really sort of otherworldly support.) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44206 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it safe to buy the newly released Duet ?
AlexV;273247 Wrote: Maybe it's just me... But I always feel kinda nervous buying a brand new product. My experience with Slim Devices releases (going back to the SB1, and some of the relatively disastrous SlimServer releases) is that when it first comes out, it'll be really great, but will have a surprisingly large number of minor bugs. But they'll get fixed, and your Squeezebox will get better and better over time. Of course, it's also possible that the Logitech acquisition has given Slim some additional QA resources, and that the Duet will be more polished and complete than some other releases, so we'll see, I guess. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43912 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet ETA?
mvalera;273184 Wrote: Actually we still hope to begin shipping pre-orders this week. If we can't we'll post it here. What is the bottleneck, incidentally? You said not hardware and not software, so... SqueezeNetwork not ready? Boxes not folded up? Manuals misprinted? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43658 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How Long Before The Duet is On Sale?
As a by-the-by, Amazon's got it at 5% off with free shipping now, so maybe not a bad place to preorder from. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How Long Before The Duet is On Sale?
Amazon carries it, though with no release date: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Squeezebox-Network-Music-System/dp/B0013IWYHU -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody + Squeezebox = Endless Frustration
Chop;260822 Wrote: I'm dying to know if people have the same problems with the Sonos, Roku and others? Right now the Roku is 149.99, is tightly integrated with iTunes (based on its native support of ALAC and AAC), and works with all Play For Sure formats. Granted, I can't read RSS feeds on it and it won't support FLAC or OGG. But given that 90 percent of people manage their music with iTunes these days - if it actually works, it's probably a much better alternative than the quirky box we've been using for years. The Squeezebox is a model of polished maturity compared to the rough, slow, and awkward Roku. I bought a Roku M500 a while back, and it was vastly inferior to even the SB1. The SB2 trounces it thoroughly, in every respect. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42501 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet videos
jonbauer;259985 Wrote: Since I couldn't find a video that showed a walkthrough of the Duet, I made my own at Macworld today. Will be posted here momentarily: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonbauer/2201055378/ Great video. I watched the Engadget and CNET reviews, and they're superficial as heck, not telling me anything I couldn't tell from pictures and articles, but that actually SHOWS stuff. Also, that controller looks pretty slick. I've long said that the Squeezebox's UI is head and shoulders above that of other comparable devices, and it's nice to see that their UI skills translate into a richer environment. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41894 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
mvalera;259436 Wrote: We had never tried that, but I just did. It worked! Oh, excellent. Well, I may have to Rhapsody it up, then... -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
mvalera;258931 Wrote: No, because your local files have DRM. But as I said you have access to your entire personal collection, just like on your computer, via SqueezeNetwork (which you can now access via SqueezeCenter 7 too). There is no reason to use your local files, they are the same quality. I'm very confused now. By personal collection do you mean CDs ripped to one's hard drive (or DRM-free MP3s bought from Amazon or whatever), not downloaded from Rhapsody, or something else? Because what I'd want to do is listen to my own personal music and also Rhapsody music without switching back and forth between servers in an awkward fashion, and it doesn't sound like that's possible right now. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
mvalera;258998 Wrote: With SqueezeCenter 7 you don't have to switch between servers. It's all available from SqueezeCenter's web interface or with the Squeezebox Controller. Ah! That's the thing I was missing. So can you put a playlist with a mix of your Rhapsody music and your local-stored music? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
mvalera;258223 Wrote: For rhapsody you don't play them locally, you actually play them over the internet via SqueezeNetwork. Right, but CAN you listen to locally-downloaded Rhapsody stuff? I mean, let's say that I have twenty albums I really like downloaded from Rhapsody, as well as fifty albums of ripped music I own, on my hard drive. Can I hit shuffle and play that? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7
andyg;257373 Wrote: Hmm, well since Rhapsody Direct support has been in SC7 for many months now, maybe you should give it a try? The page shows 6.5.4 as the latest version still -- when is SC7 going to be released? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26874 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7
andyg;257384 Wrote: It doesn't matter, use a nightly build. It matters to me, because I have strict policies against gunking up my machine with betas and nightly builds, even if I'm assured they're high-quality. No Ubuntist, I. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26874 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mkozlows;254645 Wrote: Maybe if I decide to build a good bedside headphone system it'd be useful, but otherwise it's actually less useful than an SB2/3. Incidentally, I've been obsessed with this idea since I posted that, and now I'm almost certain to buy a Duet for the bedroom. Paired with a Headroom Micro Stack, it'll be perfect for those purposes. I'd tried created a bedside system once before with my SB1-G, but didn't like having to aim the remote at the nightstand and twist my head awkwardly to see the screen, plus I didn't get a wireless one back then, so I had a Wifi bridge with a buzzy little fan in it and a mess of cables. The Duet seems like it solves all those problems. But the SB2 stays in the living room, by gum, and in the living room I insist on a screen and a universal remote, by gum. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
m1abrams;254979 Wrote: Also why is this announcement getting so much flak? I think it is a great deal, much cheaper than the competitors and I bet will offer more configurations. For those that think $300 for a remote is high then this is not the device for you, for many people into AV gear $300 for a remote is not bad, particularly a network capable remote. So much more you can do with a network capable remote. I think the fundamental thing is that the Duet is designed to compete with the Sonos, but most of us who are here already considered the Sonos and rejected it. I didn't (and don't) want a fancy one-use remote (semi-relatedly, the Harmony One that Logitech announced today looks highly excellent); I do want a device with a screen and visual feedback. Sonos customers -- or potential customers -- will probably look at the Duet and find it interesting, but people who've compared the SB3 to the Sonos and ended up with an SB3 are unlikely to change their preferences quickly. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
mortslim;255008 Wrote: I also assume that your own computer can control the new receiver so you really don't need any remote (neither the new one nor the old one). Logitech people have said that you need the Controller for setup, and a Receiver by itself is not a functioning configuration. (I think; correct me if I'm wrong.) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mrfantasy;255019 Wrote: Probably worth pointing out that by simplifying the hardware design on the Receiver, and I'm sure some less expensive manufacturing (which I'm not implying means lower quality, just being able to leverage Logitech's economies of scale), they've been able to cut the price in half over the SB3. That's good. Sean has always said that the VFD was the most expensive part of the SB2/SB3, so it's not particularly surprising that they were able to reduce the price by taking that out. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
radish;255127 Wrote: I disagree here too, it's the potential (and how the potential has actually been realised historically) that keeps me buying SD products. Obviously the thing has to do what you want from day 1, but if you know there's a pretty good chance it will be doing even more soon - why isn't that a good thing? Well, but if something doesn't meet your needs today, I'd have a hard time recommending it because it might meet your needs in a year; I mean, you can always buy it then, when it actually does what you want, you know? That said, it's worth emphasizing to people who are new to Slim Devices that their track record in terms of realizing potential and fixing bugs and adding new capabilities is truly phenomenal. Yeah, their initial releases of new capability are unpolished and rough, but they WILL keep iterating and get it right, and then make it better than they ever promised initially. I have no intention of buying the Duet, but while that's largely because it doesn't match up well with my usage model (sit close enough to the AV center to read the display now, use a universal remote to control all devices), it's also very much because my SB2 is so much better now than it was when I first bought it. Even my original SB1 is way better than it was at first, due to free upgrades (Slimserver enhancements) and paid ones (adding the G screen when that became available). -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB4: The 'Duet' is here
So, it's just like my SB2, except that I can't look at the screen to see what's playing and can't use the regular universal remote with it? I dunno. Maybe if I decide to build a good bedside headphone system it'd be useful, but otherwise it's actually less useful than an SB2/3. I wonder if Logitech is going to keep the current model around? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
mvalera;254731 Wrote: The Squeezebox Controller at $299.99 is a great value. It's a mini linux computer with an ARM processor, built in WiFi, a Wolfson DAC (same as the receiver), an IR emitter, a headphone jack, and a SD slot. That's interesting enough, but from my perspective it's a remote control that can only control a single device. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The 'Duet' is here
seanadams;254736 Wrote: So ... if ALL you want is a remote control that only control a single device, then just keep the free one that came with your SB3! Duet does much, much, more, but if the added capabilities are of no value to YOU, why complain that it's available to everyone else? Hey, I'm not. I'm just saying that declaring it to be a great value based on the materials used in its construction is looking at it from the wrong perspective. I don't care if it runs Linux, if it uses an ARM processor, if it has 3GB of RAM -- I care what I can do with it. And what I can do with it is control a Squeezebox. If someone says Wow, $300 is steep for a remote, telling them how many MIPS it has isn't going to change their mind. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41805 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
demijar;183890 Wrote: This is very worrying. I have a logitech 880 the new software has just screwed up my config. I cannot even revert back because it's all on line. I was going to buy a Transporter to add to my 2 SB3's but this has convinced me to go elsewhere for a good DAC. This is why I have a Squeezebox, but bought a MX-500 instead of a Harmony: I am WILDLY suspicious of devices that depend on companies' continued future competence, goodwill, and existence for future operation. If Slim dies or goes evil, SlimServer is still open source, so last-good versions will still be available and future development will probably still happen. But when Harmony goes evil, you're scrod. (Of course, I just bought a Tivo Series 3, which goes against this premise, but better possible future evil than the sure and certain evil of a Motorola DVR, there...) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a better way to play flac files than Softsqueeze?
Kyle;183319 Wrote: My files are already all flac. I'm looking for a player compatible with that. If you enjoy tweaking and fiddling, use Foobar. If you don't, I don't think there's a good option on Windows. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33025 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a better way to play flac files than Softsqueeze?
Kyle;183005 Wrote: Is there a recommendation in there? If you enjoy tweaking and fiddling, use Foobar. If you don't, use WMA Lossless or Apple Lossless (depending on whether you use an iPod/OS X or not). -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33025 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a better way to play flac files than Softsqueeze?
Kyle;182768 Wrote: I've been using Softsqueeze and Slimserver to play my flac files in the office, but it seems like a pretty memory-intensive way to go for my laptop. Would I be better off with a simple player, like Media Monkey? Any other suggestions for a player that can handle flac? Windows Media Player can do it, but (in my experience, a few months ago), it'll be unreliable and terrible with metadata. Foobar can do it, and extremely well, but you'll spend a LOT of time just trying to beat it into being a halfway workable player. You need to -- and I'm not kidding -- download extensions that completely replace the UI, and THEN start tweaking the configuration like mad. The results are solid, but the process of getting there is hell. (There must be a large market for a sensible default install of Foobar; someone get on that!) WinAmp can do it, but does it look like 1995? No, it does not. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33025 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Audible difference? Transporter versus SB
nicoff;162861 Wrote: I am transferring the digital data from the SB to a digital preamp (Lexicon MC-1) which does the digital/analog conversion. My first impression is that I sort of prefer the sound of my standalone CD player (by a tiny margin)than when using the SB. (BTW, my CD player is a Sonic Frontier CD-1, a tube player (yes, vacuum tube) that only has analog outputs; no digital). So no D/A conversion is needed by the Lexicon digital preamp when using the CD player. You're wrong about that last sentence. The Lexicon will convert the analog output to digital, do its processing, then convert back to analog. So your CD-1 is going D/A (in the CD-1)-A/D (in the Lexicon)-D/A (in the Lexicon). The Squeezebox's digital signal is going through the same Lexicon D/A as the CD-1, but skipping the first two steps -- so it's pretty much guaranteed that the SB is more neutral and accurate. If you prefer the sound of the CD-1, odds are that you like the euphonious distortions introduced by the tubes. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Windows Vista and Slim Devices
autopilot;148770 Wrote: Yes, but the Roku is basically just a hardware frontend for Windows Media Player No, it's a UPNP client that hooks up with Windows Media Connect (which is not the same thing as Windows Media Player at all). That said, one of the things i would like to come out of the Logitech deal is support for this kind DRM though. Sort of bad timing that way, considering what the whole Zune thing does to PlaysForSure. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
docbee;148415 Wrote: What backs my claim (at least for me) is that I am still using a slimp3 and I often thought of replacing it by one of the better looking, new models (I have a sb3 in another room). Each time I think of really replacing the slimp3 I come to the conclusion, that the slimp3 does the same as a new sb3 for me. Of course, in a very real sense, the Slimp3 that you have today is nothing like the one you bought. Download the ancient version of SlimServer, without all the massive improvements that have been made since you bought the Slimp3, and then see how insignificant you think the changes are. That sort of long-term support -- enhancing an antique product no longer manufactured and barely even used, knowing that it might cost them sales from people who'd've otherwise upgraded -- is the kind of thing that I hope Slim Devices can keep doing, but fear they can't. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Dan Sully;147909 Wrote: FLAC support is here to stay. SqueezeNetwork is here to stay. Linux/Unix support is here to stay. I believe that you mean this. But -- and I don't mean this to be harsh -- the whole problem with a buyout like this is that you're no longer in a position to make these decisions. If Logitech corporate decides that SqueezeNetwork is too expensive to maintain, or that providing support for Linux and FLAC isn't worth it, it doesn't matter how much you want to keep them around. And yeah, I know Logitech won't do that right now, and maybe they never will. But man, you can only watch so many good products die after being bought out before a pattern starts to become apparent. Anyway, though, that's where the open source thing comes in. One of the key motivators for me to purchase the Squeezeboxes is that the software is open source, so if Slim went under or got bought for pieces, my devices would still work (and could even be enhanced, if there was a big enough community or I was willing to wrangle enough Perl). So there's always that as a backstop, which prevents the worst case from being too terrible. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
seanadams;147461 Wrote: However, Logitech's brand is of enormous value to us I can see that for the Squeezebox, but not at all for the Transporter. Big mass-market companies sold at Best Buy in colorful boxes have zero high-end audiophile cred. Maybe use the Logitech name for the Squeezebox (which'll probably have to be significantly de-awesomed sound-quality-wise to hit a more consumer-friendly $199 price point), and Slim Devices for the Transporter? Also: Will you continue to sell directly from your Web site? Because it doesn't seem like Logitech has the kind of distribution outlets that'd be able to sell a $2000 music streamer... -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - Native support for WMA Lossless?
Josh Coalson;142954 Wrote: --- luga00 luga00.2f5g0n1159958401 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Windows Media Player does support FLAC through DirectShow filters. Do a search on Google. here's how: http://www.losslessaudioblog.com/?p=40 It doesn't work very well, though. There were weird inconsistencies with the metadata, and random bugginess. I tried it out, and decided it was worth the incredible pain to get Foobar working properly instead. I don't think anything outside a windows PC supports wma lossless natively. Windows Mobile devices also support WMA Lossless natively. This means not only telephones (which is fairly useless, because a 1GB miniSD card isn't exactly the ideal place for lossless), but also Portable Media Center devices (far more useful, especially with a 60GB Toshiba player). Nothing running non-Microsoft operating systems supports WMA Lossless, though. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28267 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - Native support for WMA Lossless?
Josh Coalson;143003 Wrote: you know, once you went with WMAL you pretty much tethered yourself to microsoft. all microsoft has to say is 'no' to slimdevices or price the license too high, or ... and that's it. For very light values of tether, considering that it's a lossless format and there are freely downloadable SDKs and API documentation. WMA Lossless definitely isn't as open as FLAC, but it's no Apple Lossless, either. Anyway, open source arguments notwithstanding, the current situation kinda sucks for lossless people. There's no lossless format that will natively work on the best software (Windows Media Player 11, which only supports WMA Lossless), the best portable device (the iPod, which only supports Apple Lossless), and the best networked device (the Squeezebox, which only supports FLAC). Which is why I'm converting my WMA Lossless library into a FLAC library (for use with the Squeezebox) plus an MP3 cache (for use with everything else). I figure that portable devices and PCs are compromised enough that MP3 should be good enough -- and if I really care about sound quality over usability on the PC at some point, I can just use Foobar to directly play the FLAC library. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28267 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - Native support for WMA Lossless?
Josh Coalson;143065 Wrote: yeah, I see what you're saying, but as far as I know the libraries are binary-only and only work on windows, they're not going to help anyone except those already tethered to microsoft. maybe you mean it at least allows you to transcode on a windows machine? It lets you, at the very least, have a very good expectation that you can switch to something else at any time. If WMA Lossless works best for you now (because you love WMP11, have an Xbox 360 and XP MCE, and a Gigabeat S, for instance), you can put your music into WMA Lossless without worrying that you're getting permanently locked into a roach motel... or tethered to Microsoft. all that said, the basic problem is choosing closed, proprietary codecs designed to lock you in, then asking for support for them from the competitors of the codecs' creators. But Slim Devices isn't a competitor of Microsoft. They are -- or could be -- a partner, like Roku or D-Link or the other people making PlaysForSure devices. (And none of those can play WMA Lossless, either; but partners making feature request of Microsoft aren't the same as competitors doing so.) Obviously, Slim hasn't historically been particularly interested in being a part of the full-on Microsoft ecosystem -- and based on how badly the PlaysForSure partners have gotten fucked over with Zune, that's probably a good decision -- but they're still not a competitor in the way that Apple is. I think your solution of using FLAC + MP3 is the most reasonable right now. Me too... for me. But if I didn't have a Squeezebox, or lacked the technical inclination to make Foobar become a reasonable program, it'd be hard to argue with WMA Lossless. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28267 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: FairPlay News - a way forward?
Jez;143068 Wrote: I saw this and obviously was interested. But on reading deeper, what Jon is offering is the ability to ADD Fairplay DRM (or a clone of it) to content to enable it to play on Apple systems. I'm not sure exactly who this helps, but I'm probably being dim. Anyone who wants to sell music that will play on an iPod -- think Rhapsody, Napster, Yahoo, or anyone else who licensed DRM from Microsoft. They'd LOVE to have their stores work with iPods. Of course, this isn't really that, because if Apple didn't license it, Apple can (and based on historical precedent, will) break it whenever it feels like it. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28303 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Plays for Sure/Janus/WMP10/Subscription Music
sheridan;142335 Wrote: So, has anyone found out how to stream music from Napster to my Squeezebox via Slimserver? No. And there's little point in Slim working on PlaysForSure functionality now that Microsoft has retreated back into an iTunes-style walled garden with Zune. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless users
WSLam;140735 Wrote: Thank you Slim Devices! They have fixed the end of the track chopped off bug: Out of curiosity, is there any particular trigger for it? Because, I swear, it really doesn't occur for me. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless users
mkozlows;139746 Wrote: I know what production quality open source projects look like, and those aren't it. Although I'm willing to try. I followed the instructions here: http://losslessaudio.blogspot.com/2005/12/media-center-edition-2005-with-flac.html And FLAC stuff appears where I'd expect, has read-write metadata, and appears to play back properly in WMP 11. Promising so far; I need to think out some other details before I go any further, though. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless users
radish;139844 Wrote: So you're complaining that they've fixed bugs? No. I'm complaining that the bugs they're fixing are critical ones, and therefore (if they've done any sensible triage at all), the non-critical bugs are still there. It's the same way that if you're looking for a web browser, you look for one where the recently fixed bugs are things like block elements with alpha transparency clip display of absolutely positioned bidirectional text, not invalid HTML causes browser to crash. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless users
WSLam;139048 Wrote: =( Ok, so I am not the only one out there...will hang in here and wait for a solution. Are you using the latest version of SlimServer? I used to have that same problem, but it definitely doesn't happen now. I stream WMA Lossless transcoded as FLAC to an SB2, and it works perfectly. I seem to recall that there was an explicit fix for this at some point, either in 6.3 or 6.5. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless users
WSLam;139063 Wrote: It is not easy to detect. I cannot imagine how anyone could detect it unless they have more some odd classical recordings that breakup a piece into multiple tracks. I listen almost exclusively to classical music, and it flowed from track to track without missing a single note when listening to John Adams' Nixon in China. It would have sounded weird had anything been missing, so I'm fairly certain it's not happening here. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless users
WSLam;139262 Wrote: hmmm then you must have a 'cure' that no one is aware of. The SS team is working on this bug as documented here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2985 U sure your files are WMAL not just WMA? What WMA Encoder did you use? Thanks. They're definitely WMA Lossless, ripped with WMP 10. I'm not sure why it would be happening for you and not me. I am running WMP 11 Beta on an MCE 2005 box, though I'm not sure that'd make a difference. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Upgrade Ready Today ?
ModelCitizen;137491 Wrote: Who knows. After the 6.3.* debacle Install 5.1.x, and then let's talk about debacles. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looks like Apple are joining the party
)p(;135732 Wrote: Can you elaborate a bit what you feel the pain is as I am thinking on going the tv route. Here's a way to get the TV/no-TV experience yourself: If you've got a cable service that has digital music channels, compare using those to using the Internet radio stations on the Squeezebox. You'll find that it takes longer to get started with the cable music, because 1) you need to turn more stuff on and wait for the TV to warm up, and 2) the cable box (like the 360 or the iTV) is a multi-purpose device, so you have to navigate through a bit of stuff to get to the music. You'll also probably find that it feels weird to just leave the TV sitting there lighting up the room while you put background music on (unless you're the sort of person who puts background TV on for the noise, I suppose); and that it's basically impossible to just relax at night by lying down on the couch and listening to some music, what with the TV fluorescing at you. And while the TV-based UI in theory could be more usable than the Squeezebox's, you'll again find that's not really the case. The SB is more optimized for music listening than Media Center, your cable box, or Front Row. It's not that any of those are bad UIs (except probably the cable box), it's just that they're general purpose UIs competing with a specialized device. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Official 6.5.0 Beta 3 - Please Test!
Is UPNP supposed to work? I ask because it doesn't work for me, but I'm not sure if it's intended as a fully-baked feature yet, or if there are known limitations that would make non-functioning a non-bug. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27374 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looks like Apple are joining the party
rhyzome;135634 Wrote: Muhahahahaha. I knew ditching the Squeezeboxes and going the Mac way was a good idea. Waiting in anticipation for the iTV, exactly what I wanted. A silent Front Row front end. All of you guys yammering about displays - got no remotes on your flat screen tellys? Wait until you actually try it to start talking about how great it is. The Xbox 360 plus XP Media Center gives (and has given for a year now) basically the same experience that Front Row plus the iTV will give, and I find it to be substantially less usable than the Squeezebox for simple music listening. For photo viewing on an HDTV, the 360/MCE combination is excellent; for HD movie trailers, it works wonderfully (and I hope that HD-DVD's managed copy functionality gets a solid implementation once things are more shaken out, so I can watch all my movies streamed off a server); but for music, having to use a TV is just a pain. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
I doubt it. The only devices that support WMA Lossless right now are those that run a Microsoft operating system (Windows Mobile phones and PDAs, Portable Media Centers, and of course PCs). That said, it hardly matters. I have a WMA Lossless library, and the server transcode to FLAC is seamless. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? The Transporter per 6moons.com??
rhyzome Wrote: I think the SB's plus point was its low price and audioserver bang for the buck given the features. If you start making it an audiophile component from the get go though, the glaring problems with navigation, etc start becoming exposed. I strongly disagree. I've used Windows Media Center (which is not bad at all), but the Squeezebox UI is much, much better. It's faster, it's less awkward, and it doesn't require a TV. I don't get people who think the Squeezebox has a bad UI. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Does the Transporter have a headphone output?
sbjaerum Wrote: Benchmark DAC-1 sounds pretty decent with Sennheiser HD650. I am not alone in thinking that. Anyway, budget is not limitless. If it's primarily headphone listening you care about, though, you should be putting more money in the headphone portion of things and fewer in the DAC. SB3 analog out - Micro Amp - HD650 sounds much better than SB3 digital out - DAC-1 - HD650, I can say from experience. Cheaper, too. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25814 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Does the Transporter have a headphone output?
sbjaerum Wrote: No headphone out means it can't replace my Benchmark... Buy a headphone amp. HeadRoom's Micro Amp is $300, and enormously better than the headphone out on the DAC-1. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25814 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's next from Slim? Speculate here.
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: I'm thinking the folks at Slim have been a little too quiet lately. Either they're bogged down filling orders, out blowing their recently-acquired fortunes, or working up some new stuff in the lab. Prepping for the Pandora SqueezeNetwork stuff, most likely... -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku M500 + slimserver + flac/320CBR mp3 = breakups?
Mike New Wrote: That said, the SlimServer UI is really bad. I buy SBs in spite of it. Just try changing the order of a song at the bottom of a long playlist sometime and you'll get the picture. Heck, just try to browse through a long playlist before the screen auto-refreshes you back to the top. How do I build playlists? I use iTunes, which allows me to quickly preview a tune, easily listen to segues from one song to another, and simply drag things around until I like it. THEN I go to SlimServer and rebuild the entire list from scratch so I can listen to FLAC files. It's just too painful to build and edit the original list using SlimServer. Well, don't do that. SlimServer is clearly not a playlist management tool. Build your playlists in your media management app, and then play them in SlimServer. But this is what I mean when I say that mileage varies. I never, ever use playlists. What I love about SlimServer is that -- nearly unique among media players -- it lets you do a three-tier browse. Genre, artist, album; this is so fundamental and necessary that it continually amazes me that essentially no other player does this. But apparently other people don't care, and they listen to playlists instead of albums, and it turns out that maybe different programs are good for different styles of usage. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21322 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku M500 + slimserver + flac/320CBR mp3 = breakups?
goofygrin Wrote: It's the server web software. It's painful. It feels like it was written in 2003 or something. The meta refreshes drive me nuts in IE with the clicking. Boy, mileage really does vary. I love SlimServer's UI, and think that not only is it a great Web app, but that it's also the best media player I've used. (As for the IE clicking, the solution to that is to use Firefox for SlimServer.) -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21322 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku M500 + slimserver + flac/320CBR mp3 = breakups?
Frankly, if you think that slimserver's web ui is a great ui, then you need to get out a little Thanks for the gratuitous insult. Really classes up the conversation. - font sizes are locked down and are very small. Not all of us have 20/15 vision :) Font sizes are only locked down if you use IE. In Firefox, you can adjust them easily. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21322 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How would Slim do DRM?
Over in the Pandora thread, one of the Slim Devicers says: andyg Wrote: It's a SqueezeNetwork-only feature because the interface to Pandora is proprietary. SN allows us to write closed-source plugins that can take advantage of things that wouldn't be possible in the open source server. Which gets me wondering: If the Squeezebox ever does get the ability to support DRM, how would it happen? It can't be through SqueezeNetwork, obviously, because the DRMed stuff isn't there; and just as obviously, it can't be through the open source part of SlimServer. So would Slim put out closed-source plugins for the DRM-streaming part of SlimServer? Put out an entirely closed-source version of Squeezebox just for DRM purposes (I assume Slim owns all the copyrights on SlimServer, so can release non-open-source versions if they ever feel like it)? Enable the Squeezebox to operate with non-SlimServer servers like WMC? -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20941 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NaxosRadio
I'd never seen that before, and it looks interesting, but: 64Kbps as near CD quality? Um, no. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20583 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Xbox 360
agentsmith Wrote: Hope I am not causing a stir here. Just wondering how the new XBox 360 compares with the Slim offering. I have an Sb2 and am wondering if I should get an XBOX too. The 360 has several big advantages over the Squeezebox: 1. It can use WMC (on a regular XP box) or Media Center (on an MCE box) functionality, so doesn't require installation of third-party software like SlimServer. This is nice if you have a Media Center, but not important with XP, since WMC is about as resource-hungry as SlimServer (no surprise; it's doing basically the same task). 2. It's PlaysForSure compliant, so works great with the subscription music services (Yahoo, Rhapsody, Napster) and non-iTunes online music stores. This is a huge, phenomenal benefit if you have a subscription service or lots of purchased DRMed tracks, and a total non-issue otherwise. 3. It can do HD photo slideshows. This is very nice, at least with the Media Center UI (I haven't tried it with the 360 Dashboard UI). If you have an HDTV, lots of digital pictures, and people who want to see them, this is a big deal. Not competitive with the Squeezebox, but it puts the Roku HD-1000 right out of business, as far as I'm concerned. 4. With Media Center, It can stream HD (and non-HD) video. This is wonderful if you get HD over-the-air and have a system that can handle it; or if you get NTSC via any source; or if you really, really love to watch the three minute snippets of Imax movies available from Microsoft's WMV-HD Content Showcase. Otherwise, it's a bit of a novelty until Vista comes out with CableCard support. 5. The available games are much, much better. SlimTris doesn't even begin to compete with Hexic, never mind Kameo. But the SB has some big advantages of its own: 1. The UI is better, even compared to the Media Center UI on the 360. The 360 limits you -- like a lot of devices -- to a two-tier browse. Genre, then Album; or Artist, then Album; but never Genre, Artist, and then Album. The larger your music collection, the more this matters. 2. It has real audio output hardware. The 360 resamples everything to 48KHz (like the Roku M1001) and in general isn't aiming for hi-fi street cred. Considering it sells for $400 and has the gaming capabilities it has, no surprise. 3. It's quiet. The 360 is loud, about like a standard desktop computer in media mode (and more like a SFF computer at 100% CPU utilization -- which, really, is what it is -- when playing games). If you're using it for party music, or to watch Armageddon, no biggie. But for listening to relatively quiet music? Unacceptable. 4. It doesn't need the TV. I wasn't sure if this would be a big deal, but it is. Having to have the TV on to listen to music bothers me. My recommendation: If you don't have a Squeezebox, and play your music on your stereo with those round disc things (CDs, I believe they used to call them), you absolutely need to get SOMETHING that'll get you into the modern era. Both the 360 and the SB are excellent devices, but the SB is a device built for one purpose -- and an excellent single-purpose device will nearly always beat an excellent multi-purpose device when performing its intended function. If you don't care about gaming, don't use your MCE PC as a DVR, and don't have a lot of PFS DRMed music, skip the 360 and just get a Squeezebox. It's significantly better for pure music. But if the non-music capabilities of the 360 appeal to you, absolutely buy one. Its music capabilities are better than any non-Squeezebox device (the 360 is much, much better than a Roku SoundBridge, for instance), and given the video, photo, and gaming capabilities, it's a steal for $399. If you do buy a 360, though, seriously consider getting a Squeezebox, too. If you can afford it, and care about music in a significant way (if you have a receiver that costs over $1000 -- or separates of any kind -- you probably can and do), it's worth it. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20092 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Native AAC Support
samlw Wrote: While a fully lossless format (ALAC) that is natively supported by both iTunes and Squeezebox would be ideal, I would be happy with high bit-rate AAC if it were natively supported in firmware. The Roku SoundBridge does this, so it is clearly possible. The SoundBridge doesn't support Apple Lossless -- nobody does, because it's part and parcel of Apple's hyper-proprietary world. And while the SoundBridge does support AAC, what's the benefit of AAC for you? If high-bitrate lossy is acceptable, just use MP3 and get universal compatibility. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19155 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Enhancement requests for Classical or complex music collections
ceejay Wrote: 6: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2701 - Need ability to browse multiple tags in flexible order (Multi-Level Browse) Of these, the last one is the most important - the others either lay necessary foundations or are interim measures. Okay, see, and this is why I'm so irritated at the weakening of Browse Music Folders in recent versions -- with the old Browse Music Folders, you could do arbitrary multi-level browse just by arranging your files properly, and that's a very useful thing to do. (As it stands, you can still do it, but you have to accept an ugly UI, which I won't.) A well-supported arbitrary tag multi-level browse feature would be even nicer, though, due to the extra flexibility. I'd expect it'd be substantially harder to implement than just de-sucking the Browse Music Folders, though -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18946 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Napster to go
Over on AVSForum, Sean posted that native WMA support is the first step toward eventually supporting certain music services. I've got my fingers crossed. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14116 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: UK Computer Shopper round up of Wireless Media Players - Squeezebox 2/5
CardinalFang Wrote: It's still not what the consumer expects for a mass market consumer electronics product. Ever have to wait for bug fixes for your TV? Or for the rest of your HiFi? Don't get me wrong, I love my SB, but it's a far cry from the out-of-the box experience I had with my iPod. Compared to other electronic devices I have (few of which are particularly esoteric): Linksys wireless router: The router was WAY WAY harder to get setup. Orders of magnitude. Yet, tons of people have this thing, if all the linksys networks I see around are any key. Motorola cablebox DVR: Easy to set up (the cable company does it), but hard to use and incredibly -- incredibly! -- buggy. It frequently turns the TV off when we're watching it, for instance. Dell DJ MP3 player: Much harder to set up (mostly because it didn't come with the modern MTP/PFS firmware installed by default), and harder to get working reliably with DRMed music. Roku M500 with UPNP/WMC: Harder to setup, much harder to use, and less reliable (it crashed several times, and would refuse to play songs on the first try several other times). Digital Rebel: Harder to use properly (though the photography skill set is a different one from the computer skill set), but definitely more reliable in operation. iPod: Okay, I'm just bitter here, but I never could get the damn thing to connect to my computer. It just wouldn't do it. Insane. (I know I'm an exception on this one.) At any rate, I don't think the SB2 is way out of the norm for modern tech-gear, in terms of ease-of-use. I wouldn't give one to my mom, but anyone who can set up a wireless network in the first place can definitely get an SB2 working no problem. -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Expected behaviour of Browse Music Folder in 6.2
NeilH Wrote: I can't help thinking this is a Me too. It's frustrating to have my non-ugly browsing limited to a few select metadata tags, rather than the carefully laid out folder structure I have. -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Expected behaviour of Browse Music Folder in 6.2
dwc Wrote: I understand your frustration, but I disagree with your suggestion to change the implementation. If you select browse by folder, then you expect the server to present the directories and files according to the file and folder names. It does not follow that you would expect the server to jump into the files at the last stage and present according to metadata tags. That is what the other browsing methods are for. I don't think so. Browse By Folder is, to me, a method exactly peer to Browse By Artist, Browse By Genre, or any of the other Browse By X things you can do. Nobody would expect Browse By Artist to get you a different display on the file level than Browse By Genre, so why should Browse By Folder be the one single exception to this otherwise consistent interface? (Yes, I know: Performance. But if performance wasn't a concern, I don't think anyone would prefer the current interface over the old one.) You have two solutions. Correct your file names, or correct your metadata tags. Both are thoroughly correct already. But no amount of correct metadata will let me browse by first choosing whether I'm looking at my music or my wife's music. (Incorrect metadata would -- I could hack up the genre tag or something -- but that's ugly.) A folder browse allows me to use any arbitrary organization method; no folder browse forces me to use some combination of genre/artist/album. -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Dan Sully Wrote: * David A. Chappel shaped the electrons to say... Does this mean I can stream WMA from my Linux server? Yes - provided it is lossy WMA, and not lossless WMA. Is WMA Lossless still transcoded on the server? And if so, how does SlimServer know whether it's lossless or lossy? -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Universal (All-for-one) remote controls?
The MX-500 is, as others here have said, an excellent remote. The hard buttons are laid out and labelled appropriately for everything from a cable box with PVR capability to a DVD player to a TV to a Squeezebox; and the controls that don't naturally map to a hard-labelled button can go nicely in the custom button area on top. Plus, macros, which are great at allowing me to easily switch sources in my otherwise unwieldly setup (which might normally require three devices to change inputs). Plus, it's easy to set up, being sensibly pre-programmed for a variety of devices and with fairly intuitive menus (and an excellent manual) for doing learning, label editing, and macros. Plus, it's got a nice backlight. Plus, it's an attractive unit with good feel (the unit itself has the same powder-black finish as the black Squeezebox; the buttons are a glossy hard finish that depress satisfyingly). It's really an excellent remote, and it seems to be intermittently possible to find it for under $100, which is a steal. -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Q on 6.1.1
Old Guy Wrote: 3. Title display now shows file name with .flac extention. Rephrase - From display via remote, choose Browse Music Folder and browse, then it seems that it is just showing what are in the folders including file names and file extention. This was not like that before, I remember. This is intentional. They made Browse Music Folder really hideous in order to make it really fast. It is faster, but since it's also unusable to me now, I've had a net performance decrease, since I have to go through other browsing methods, which are slower than Browse Music Folder used to be. -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Stuttering with SB2
The problem I'm having is that music starts to plays just fine on the SB2, but some number of minutes into a track -- 2, 3, 8, sometimes never -- it'll just stop playing and do this little stutter thing where I hear micro-bursts of sound. One time, it came back and resumed playing after a few minutes; normally, I have to turn off the SB2 and turn it back on to get it playing music again. I'm surprised to see this happening, because when I had an SB1 in that same spot (with an 802.11g wireless bridge) streaming WAV, it'd cut out only very rarely, and would come back far more quickly; so streaming FLAC seems like it should totally obviate that sort of problem. Any ideas? I'd changed the scrolling to be 0.05 scroll rate with 3 scroll pixels, which I'm going to change back now, but is it at all likely that this is really causing the problem? Is there a way I can tell whether this is a network issue or some problem on the server? (Setup info: Latest release version of SlimServer on Windows XP streaming WMA Lossless as FLAC to an SB2 on an 802.11g network with WEP.) -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: First impressions
Already posted: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=555364 -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: First impressions
Dave D Wrote: Often a great product shows up with a substandard UI and it's a real shame (I am not necessarily referring to Roku here.) I am! That thing is horrid, horrid, horrid. The PlaysForSure capability was a very good thing (and I really do believe that this stuff is going to be critical before too long, so I hope that the Slim Devices people are working hard on it behind the scenes), but the UI was painfully unusable. (A longer rant/review is posted here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=553516 .) -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
