On 17 Jul 2019 at 23:30, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> Biggest issue is that strongish Radio signals trigger the computer to think
> the horn button is pressed
That makes me wonder what else strong RF might cause the computer to do.
Blowing the horn is annoying but usually relatively
On 17 Jul 2019 at 17:44, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> All sorts of cars have been "cracked" via the car's wireless network to
> make it do all sorts of things.
I've read about that too. I hadn't really thought about it much until now,
but wouldn't that be yet another way for the "coal rollers" to
Fifty miles of range and the article hasn't a single word about range
anxiety or getting stranded. No smarmy pushing photos here! It barely even
mentions that the camper happens to be electric.
This is just the tale of a good time in a camper that happens to be an EV.
Wouldn't it be nice
On 21 Jul 2019 at 8:35, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Tesla also lowered the starting price of its mass-market Model 3 to $38,990
Uh ... so what happened to that $30k electric car we heard Musk talk about
for all those years? It seems to have tipped off the road into the same
ditch as the
On 21 Jul 2019 at 22:26, Robert Johnston via EV wrote:
> I can't find ANY reference to Elon Musk talking about a $30,000 car.
> He did promise a $35,000 car in his Q2 2013 earnings call... a
> car costing $35,000 in 2013 would cost $37,869.21 today
I can't find the $30k reference now either, so
On 6 Jul 2019 at 18:45, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Sitharaman said the increase in the duty on petrol and diesel announced
> in the budget was not meant to hurt the middle class, but address
> environmental concerns.
Good luck with that. Macron tried the same argument in France, and combined
Don't believe any of that stuff. The truth is that Bruce has a shiny new
Peabody Wayback Machine (tm) that not only goes forward into the past, it
goes backward into the future. It's powered by a 24MWh lithium battery and
a 12-phase induction drive. It has level 9 AC charging, and for 10
On 7 Nov 2019 at 11:17, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Side question: Why has it become fashionable to reduce the size of
> windows as much as possible (creating huge pillars and reducing
> visibility), and then painting an inch or more of the edges black?
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I
On 7 Nov 2019 at 15:33, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Oh no! Let's not give telemarketers yet another way to shove ads in our
> faces!
These days it appears that most production EVs are emulating Tesla and
slapping tablet-like touch screens in the middle of their instrument panels.
They're all
On 14 Nov 2019 at 5:50, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Those are all hybrids you would need to compare them to a hybrid
> motorcycle
No, they're not all hybrds. The Honda Civic VX (52mpg), Honda Civic CRX HF
(62mpg), and Chevrolet Sprint (53mpg) are all conventional ICEVs. The
Sprint even
On 12 Nov 2019 at 21:45, evtlfp20 via EV wrote:
> My scooter uses 40 amps at 72 volt s and 40 mph, so whats my watts
> per mile ?
I don't know, how many horsepower per mile does your gas car use? :-\
Obviously horsepower per mile is a nonsense unit, and so is watts per mile
(watts and
On 13 Nov 2019 at 6:06, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Harley-Davidson's fleet average fuel economy for 2018 was 44 mpg.
>
> What car gets 44 mpg?
2016 Toyota Prius, 54mpg city.
2015 Toyota Prius C (aka Yaris Hybrid), 53mpg city.
2000 Honda Insight, 61mpg highway.
1995 Honda Civic VX, 52mpg
On 16 Nov 2019 at 13:16, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> ItTMs not the automakers that are single-minded, itTMs the customers that
> are demanding these vehicles. Those are the ones that are selling.
The automakers deliberately manufactured that demand with advertising. They
did it because
I know they make more profit with vehicles like this, but I sure wish the
automakers weren't so single-minded about what they build. So many SUVs and
crossovers! I'm sure they're fine for some folks, but for me, ugh. Even as
EVs, they're just too clumsy and awkward, kind of like a gangling
On 16 Nov 2019 at 15:13, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> I think that this is an interesting theory.
It's hardly a theory; it's pretty common knowledge that the automakers
deliberately manufactured demand for SUVs through heavy and aggressive
advertising. There are many sources. A good one
On 11 Nov 2019 at 10:07, John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
> So, it sounds like I need to find a real DC-DC converter that can take 330vdc
> and make 13.8vdc.
Could you use (say) three 120v converters, each connected to part of the
battery, with their outputs in parallel through large diodes?
David
I'm hesitant to say anything in this thread because many years ago the EVDL
voted to downplay hydrogen, despite the fact that it's mentioned in our
original charter.
Also, a lot of what I say won't register for the True Believers. They'll
dismiss it out of hand. Nobody can shake their
On 8 Dec 2019 at 23:12, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> Your statement about Toyota not making money on the Mirai is pretty silly.
It wasn't the poster's statement, it was from an article he quoted. And I
don't understand why you would call it "silly."
>
> Who knows if they will make money
On 12 Dec 2019 at 19:45, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> https://dailycaller.com
Talk about a biased source! I wouldn't believe anything I read in that rag.
If it said the sky was blue and the grass was green, I'd go outside and
check.
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On 14 Dec 2019 at 16:24, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> electric milk floats
Absolutely! They've been used for milk delivery in the UK since around
1920, if I'm not mistaken. In recent decades they've gradually vanished,
replaced by faster (and louder) Diesel trucks in the push for productivity,
On 5 Dec 2019 at 1:43, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
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This is why you shouldn't send html-only email to the list. The listserver
HATES that, and it will make your message sit in the corner wearing a dunce
cap. :-\
Here's the message:
Another datapoint:
On 27 Oct 2019 at 20:58, Paul Wujek via EV wrote:
> Thorough take-down of that article printed in British newspapers last week:
That was pretty entertaining and detailed, but you don't need to sit through
27 minutes and 38 seconds of demonstrations of how al-air batteries work to
debunk this
On 16 Oct 2019 at 13:05, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Consider hybrid cars; they generally get better fuel economy.
I'm not an engineer, so I'm treading hazardous waters here, but I'm not so
sure I agree.
As for pseudo-hybrid vehicles (fuel only, not true plug hybrids), as I
understand it,
I need to clear out some EV parts and projects, preferably before winter
sets in.
I'll have a list of the parts for sale soon.
For now, I'm offering the EVs at what I think are low prices in hopes of
moving them out quickly, and finding them loving forever homes with EV
hobbyists. I
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On 17 Oct 2019 at 16:49, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Sending a picture to this list is hard if not impossible.
Nah, it's a piece of cake. Use one of these:
https://postimages.org/
http://www.uploadhouse.com/
Neither site even requires registration. It's easy, just point and click
with
On 16 Oct 2019 at 15:31, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Seems that Yahoo no longer wants us. Lawrence Rhodes
I don't entirely understand who "us" is. The EVDL has never been hosted by
Yahoo Groups.
At one time we had an unofficial archive there, but that pseudo-group
vanished several years
On 20 Nov 2019 at 3:39, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I did a little searching and the *current* average for a complete
> pack is about $200 per kWh.
For another data point, it's 8000 Euros (about US$8800) to buy the factory
52kWh battery for a 2020 Renault Zoe (AFAIK still Europe's
On 21 Nov 2019 at 8:09, Bill Dube via EV wrote:
> More to the point, lead-acid batteries are not recycled at "nearly 100%" as
> claimed. If you look at the numbers provided by the lead industry itself, at
> _least_ 30% of them escape the recycling stream
No worries. Ignoring corrections and
This report ignores the fact that EVs are mechanically much simpler than
ICEVs. A motor, controller, and single-speed transaxle should cost less
than an ICE, ECU, and automatic transaxle, once the development costs are
amortized.
Also, with battery leasing, it's also possible to shift the
On 24 Nov 2019 at 12:37, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> In a way, it might be a missed opportunity. The automaker pickups have
> also strayed away from the traditional "work truck" pickup, in favor of
> luxury 4-passenger car-like vehicles that happen to have a small bed in
> back. Most of them
Hi Forrest, and welcome to the EVDL! At 80mph, a wheel of 28.7" diameter
will be turning at about 940rpm, not 3000rpm. ((5280*12)/(28.7*3.14))*(8/6)
With a 3.27 differential ratio, your motor will be turning at 3070rpm. If
you think about typical tachometer readings in an ICEV, this is about
On 26 Nov 2019 at 13:33, Alan Brinkman via EV wrote:
> A 28.7" tall tire has a circumference of PI * 28.7 or 3.17*28.7
The value of Pi has changed? Yikes! Good thing I put
#define PI 3.14159
in stdio.h. :-)
"The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants.
Instead
On 24 Nov 2019 at 20:26, Paul Compton via EV wrote:
> Do US road rules not have requirements for pedestrian safety?
No, and given the current government's direction, I don't see any on the
horizon. I'm surprised they haven't yet dissolved NHTSA.
We need pedestrian safety regulations pretty
I'm looking forward to the day when there are enough EVs on the road that
their drivers could -- IF they were as infantile as the tantrum-throwing
ICEV drivers who deliberately "ICE" charging points -- "E" gas pumps.
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Obviously I don't know anything about Tesla's reasons for the odd appearance
and design of their pickup truck. However, despite the power tool
receptacle in the bed, I don't think it's really aimed at the American work-
truck buyer, or even the type who embrace the huge, burly, tall semi-luxury
On 24 Nov 2019 at 7:25, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
> Also, I suspect that the typical truck buyer probably
> won't want something that looks more like the traditional pickup, which as you
> say, hasn't really changed much in 70+ years.
s/won't/will/g
Sorry.
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On 9 Oct 2019 at 23:18, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> The Washington Post SAN FRANCISCO ... Tesla ... issued a
> preemptive advisory overnight ... telling owners to charge up to 100% ahead
> of the planned outages ... on- or offline ... oeSupercharger stations ...
> displayed on in-car maps ... (%
Am I missing something? Isn't this what main contactors are for?
Besides, I don't think its a new idea. This document
https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/proceedings/24/files/24ESV-000163.PDF
seems to date from a couple of years ago (I could be wrong about that,
however).
David Roden - Akron,
On 8 Oct 2019 at 17:22, Willie via EV wrote:
> SFChronicle attempts to force ad viewing. Screw 'em.
Strange, I saw no ads at all here. I did get a pop-over exhorting me to
subscribe to the paper after looking at the article, but at that point I was
done, so I just closed the browser window.
On 12 Oct 2019 at 13:16, evtlfp20 via EV wrote:
> I have an old white android phone with 4.20, and want to know if it
> will work with that phone ?
This page
http://www.electricvehiclewiki.com/wiki/leaf-spy-pro/
says that Leaf Spy works on a Motorola Droid with Android 2.2, so maybe it
will
On 10 Feb 2020 at 15:48, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Ultimately we may need legal clarification of what it means to own, or
> at least indefinitely own the right to use. Similar to the
> right-to-repair issues fomenting right now.
You'll see more of this in coming years. It's a growing trend
On 21 Jan 2020 at 17:40, Christopher Darilek via EV wrote:
> The amps are still there, they just don't come out as fast.
Amperes IS a measure of how fast the energy leaves the battery.
Or do you mean amp-HOURS? That's the unit you use to measure energy.
Lead batteries always have less
I'm still looking for a new home for a converted 1991 Ford Escort wagon. I
need it out of here in a couple of months. Hand me $200 cash and make it go
away. Save it from being donated to a nonprofit and probably scrapped!
1991 FORD ESCORT wagon, ADC 9" motor, Curtis 1231C controller, 128v,
On 23 Jan 2020 at 16:24, paul dove via EV wrote:
> I personally have issues with non-profits that have unknown funding sources.
I'm not an attorney, but my understanding of US law is that nonprofit
organizations are required to disclose only "unrelated business income" and
not their donors.
On 26 Jan 2020 at 2:32, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
> In fairness, I can see the logic behind these schemes.
Punitive EV road taxes are neither logical nor fair.
ICEV emissions cost the public -- both in taxes to pay for the environmental
damage, and in higher health insurance costs.
EVs
On 27 Jan 2020 at 5:10, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Neuron EV Vega
Vega. Now THERE'S a time-honored name for a car. :-)
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On 27 Jan 2020 at 12:47, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> The Chevy Vega might be more respected if GM had been at the
> crest of the small car wave during the 1974-ish gas "crisis", instead
> of gasping for air after it rolled over them carrying Toyota, Datsun
> and Honda to success.
I'm not so
Thanks for the article! It sounds like there's lots of interest in that
Rivian. It's not a vehicle I'm interested in, but I hope it goes well, for
them and for the buyers. Starting a brand-new EV-only company is a high bar
to clear.
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Good grief. What are they putting in the Detroit water supply these days?
GM's executives have lost their minds.
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On 3 Feb 2020 at 7:15, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Ford may have just launched an electric Mustang crossover but old-school
> muscle car fans have their own Mustang model to look forward to, and it may
> just be badged a Mach 1 [
>
On 24 Jan 2020 at 9:55, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> That makes PV/Heatpump systems 30 times more cost
> effective than in the early 2000's. PLUS, you get FULL retail credit for
> every photon that falls on your roof whether you use the hot water or not.
Maybe you do, but increasingly across
FYI, Bob is in the hospital, recovering from surgery for a "football size"
tumor.
More info when I get it.
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On 17 Feb 2020 at 12:51, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
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I presume that the manufacturer has thought about this and designed the
battery such that it can split in the middle and charge from a standard 50kW
DCFC that is used to charge 400V EVs,
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/16/german-court-tesla-
gigafactory-forest
German court orders Tesla to stop felling trees for Gigafactory
Ruling comes after state environmental office greenlit clearance of 92
hectares of forest
Reuters in Berlin
Sun 16 Feb 2020 12.47 EST
Last
On 18 Feb 2020 at 18:29, Willie via EV wrote:
> Should I propose a vote on the most idiotic EVDL post?
> Two responders treated you EXTREMELY gently.
This kind of response isn't in the collegial spirit we try for on the EVDL,
and it's not very helpful. Let's discuss EVs, not EVDL members,
They might as well sneak into his garage in the middle of the night and
steal parts from the car. The only difference between this and what GM did
to their EV-1 lessees is the scale of the confiscation. It's disgusting.
And y'all wonder why I'll never buy a Tesla. I admire the brilliant
On 9 Feb 2020 at 18:12, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Cable TV will shut you off in a heat beat if you arenTMt paying for the
> service too.
I assume you mean HEARTbeat. Cable TV isn't a car. It's not even an
antenna. You don't own it. It's strictly a service, to be granted or not
at the whim
Wow, lots of FUD in that article. Some of it is correct or nearly so; some
of it is half-right, and some of it is just plain rubbish. I'll leave it to
you to sort out what's reasonable and what's bogus.
Lithium batteries shouldn't stand fully charged when they're very hot. They
also
On 19 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone
> rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well.
Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one. Some people don't even have or
want mobile phones of any kind. So
I received a note from an EVDLer who's having some kind of problem posting.
We haven't figured out what it is yet, but I suspect that her email address
has changed in some way, so that she can receive (some) EVDL mail but can't
send any.
While I work on fixing the problem, here's what she
PS - I forgot to mention: if you're interested, please don't reply to the
message as it won't reach me. Get my private email address here:
http://evdl.org/help/#supt
Thanks.
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I don't know what it might mean for the future of EVs in Japan or the EU,
but Carlos Ghosn has slipped out of Japan despite being under heavily
guarded house arrest.
The story reads like something from a B-movie. It was supposedly planned by
his Lebanese wife. He hid in a musical
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/25/2020-set-to-be-year-of-
the-electric-car-say-industry-analysts
https://v.gd/vfyhSV
2020 set to be year of the electric car, say industry analysts
Mini, Vauxhall Corsa and Fiat 500 will join rapidly expanding European EV
market
Jasper Jolly
On 5 Jan 2020 at 5:10, Bob Bath via EV wrote:
> And this is from a CEO? Where do they find these ppl?!!
I'm speculating here, but perhaps Ghosn's promotion of EVs is another reason
they wanted to get rid of him.
However, I should point out that Hiroto Saikawa is the Nissan CEO. Espinoza
is
On 5 Jan 2020 at 16:10, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I can see the argument for plug-in hybrids for single car households.
So can I, but they have all the complexity and cost of ICEVs and then some.
And their relevance is falling fast as large batteries and rapid charging
become more common.
On 6 Jan 2020 at 17:57, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Could Eminent Domain be used to force change of ownership of a thing to put
> it to better use? NiMH batteries for instance.
Eminent Domain has been egregiously misused in the last few decades, having
been used to take private property
On 7 Jan 2020 at 8:40, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Eminent Domain cannot be used to enrich corporations. I t can only take
> private land for public use.
That's what ED was intended for, but it's been misued to transfer private
property to other private owners for decades now. That use of the
Here's an interesting thought experiment: I wonder how we'd feel about
Chargepoint or Tesla convincing City Hall to use eminent domain to condem
properties, so they could build several charging points in a city.
What would you think if the properties to be taken were in a slum, with some
of
On 10 Mar 2020 at 15:44, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
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No, this is a persistent fantasy, there are no *cable* conversion kits.
The dealer orders a new (2013-2015 style) battery but *with* the old style
control connector and with a special
10 .. 9 .. 8 .. 7 .. 6 .. 5 .. 4 .. 3 .. 2 .. 1 .. 0
Tantrum and lawsuit from the Association of Auto Manufacturers.
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>From what little I can find online, it appears to me that while the Clarity
FC version is/was lease-only, the PH and EV versions were offered for sale.
The PH seems to have sold in the $35k range. I can't find a price for the
EV version, though one source said it was actually higher than the
On 11 Mar 2020 at 11:41, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> Three cars on the same platform with power trains that match three different
> duty cycles.
A double or even triple powertrain strategy does make sense from that
perspective, or at least it probably did when the Clarity was introduced.
On 14 Apr 2020 at 19:35, paul dove via EV wrote:
> I have computers, phones, tools cars etc. none have ever blown up or
> caught on fire.
Market researchers have a saying: "The plural of anecdote is not data."
In other words, when estimating how likely an unfortunate incident is to
happen,
You can buy a cheap Chinese battery spot welder on Ebay for less than $100.
It's probably even less than that from Aliexpress, if you trust them. I saw
one being used a few years ago and it seemed OK. I have no idea about its
longevity or relative convenience.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/11/milk-floats-ride-to-the-rescue-
of-locked-down-british-households
Milk floats ride to the rescue of locked-down British households
The once ubiquitous electric float had seen its power wane. Then came the
pandemic
Nazia Parveen North of England
On 12 Apr 2020 at 20:30, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I saw nowhere in the article referencing using electric milk floats. Maybe
> it's like the use of Fridge. Generic for milk delivery vehicle.
EVs were used to deliver milk for decades. The milkmen made their rounds in
the early morning
Thanks for your hard work over these many long years, Bruce. I think we can
all understand why you need to spend a little more time on your own life and
health. We'll do OK with the abbreviated posts for as long as you need to
make them.
Best of luck with the house-hunting, and take good
On 3 Apr 2020 at 19:03, Jim Walls via EV wrote:
> My truck gets about 12 mpg, so 1,250 gallons or $1,062.50 total of
> which $832.50 is state tax.
That's a fair bit, but it seems to me that it might not be all that unfair
or unreasonable. Your big truck causes a lot more road wear and
On 3 Apr 2020 at 23:54, Jim Walls via EV wrote:
> Actually it's personal, not work.
That sounds like an expensive hobby. I'm guessing that the fuel tax is only
the beginning.
But then, EVs can be an expensive hobby too.
> I can well imagine the performance of a vehicle that can carry 1.4
On 4 Apr 2020 at 18:00, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> It would be so nice to have an EV minivan.
If you can compromise on the range, there's the Renault Kangoo ZE 33 - 33kWh
battery, with 160 miles of city driving range (and Renault is known for
being realistic about their EVs' ranges).
Or
On 25 Mar 2020 at 13:04, Willie via EV wrote:
> I want to mow, not fiddle.
I understand your wanting new, but the ER8-36 type dedicated GE riding
mowers from 40 years ago are simple and reliable, more reliable than the
more complex GE Elec-tracs. They were also sold under at least a couple of
GM, Ford, and Chrysler are going to build EVs. I guarantee it. You just
won't see many of them here. They have to build them, because while the US
government doesn't care, the rest of the world does.
China REALLY needs to clean up its air, and it looks as if EVs are going to
be a
On 3 Apr 2020 at 9:23, Jim Walls via EV wrote:
> I WISH I only paid $200 per year in gas tax! I pay that much in gas
> taxes every couple months.
Ohio gasoline tax is $.355 per gallon. If you drive 15000 mi/yr at 30mpg,
that's 500 gallons or $192.50 per year.
BUT EV drivers SHOULD pay
On 3 Apr 2020 at 16:29, paul dove via EV wrote:
> 6000 miles divided by 30 mpg is 200 gallons at 59 cents that's $116
How many people do you know who drive only 6000 miles per year?
> Gasoline tax is used to maintain roadways not clean the air.
That's beside the point. EVs benefit society.
On 28 Mar 2020 at 10:30, Willie via EV wrote:
> Several suggest special LFP chargers. That rather contradicts "drop in
> lead replacement".
I looked into these a few years ago. IIRC, none of them bore a brand name
that I recognized.
Some suggested using simple wall warts for charging, which
I can't see how public charging is different from fueling. Most ICEV
drivers don't have the option of filling up their ICEVs at home, but I know
one EV driver who charges almost exclusively at free public EVSEs.
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On 31 Mar 2020 at 14:27, Mark Laity-Snyder via EV wrote:
> Interesting that Tesla M3 did NOT make this list at $40k and the BMW I3 at
> $44450 did make the list. The M3 has a better range than the I3 and
> supercharging.
That seems to be an EU-oriented list, though it had the prices in
Styling of any object is a matter of personal taste, and I won't try to
claim mine is any more valid than anyone else's, but all I can say is ...
wow. That would definitely have to be an acquired taste. The place you'd
have to acquire it would be Hell.
I'm not surprised that Toyota had a
If Lincoln wants to continue selling cars in China, they'll need to develop
some kind of EV. AFAIK, they have little or no sales in Europe, and I doubt
that they care much about US EV sales. So it would probably make sense for
them to form a partnership with one of the Chinese automakers.
On 26 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Electric adoption will happen much quicker if the security of the oil supply
> changes or the price of oil skyrockets or people become aware of the harm and
> cost pumping, refining and burning fossil fuel poses.
Awareness of the harm
The Fenix name sounds vaguely familiar. Bruce may have posted something
about them in the past.
Their $99 per month charge for unlimited mileage compares favorably with
with what Renault's Zoe unlimited km battery leasing costs in France (124
Euro / $139 per month). OTOH, at 52 kWh, the
You probably already have it, but if not, does this help?
http://evdl.org/docs/azure_dmoc_445-645_manual.pdf
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As a non-engineer I don't have much to contribute to this discussion.
However, I might point out that from what I've read you're talking about
designing a BMS for EVhobbyists, not for production EVs. IMO, that calls
for a somewhat less stringent level of fault tolerance.
Safety is still
Tesla is facing another lawsuit over autopilot. Newsweek reports that a
Japanese family are suing Tesla for a accident 2 years ago in which a 44
year old pedestrian was struck and killed.
https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-lawsuit-model-x-autopilot-fatal-crash-japan-
yoshihiro-umeda-1501114
Supercaps and ultracaps have been "sexy" for decades now. People look at
their cycle life and fast charging ability and their first thoughts are
usually "Eureka! The perfect battery!"
A supercap's specific energy is typically around 6-10 wh/kg, with some
claiming up to around 40 wh/kg. A
I wonder if any GM exectives ever drive any of their EVs. Maybe they don't
drive any vehicles at all, but have chauffeurs. Remember Tom Corbin,
creator of the Sparrow, who rode around in a chauffeured ICE Bentley?
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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On 9 May 2020 at 18:42, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> I think the real problem is that our world leaders are incompetent
> sailors. They can't read the map of the future, don't understand the
> winds of change, and have no clear idea of where they are even heading.
None is particularly competent,
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/10/elon-musk-threatens-to-move-
tesla-hq-out-of-california-over-covid-19-restrictions
Elon Musk threatens to move Tesla HQ out of California over Covid-19
restrictions
Reuters
Published on Sat 9 May 2020 22.25 EDT
Tesla is suing local authorities in
On 12 May 2020 at 20:58, paul dove via EV wrote:
> I promise it's very accurate unless you do serious design changes.
> Tesla beats (Model S 350 Wh/m 5000lb car, Model 3 260Wh/m 4000Lb car)
> this but I don't know of any others.
2020 Renault Zoe 1502kg (3305lb)
213 wh/mi WLTP @
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