Not to belabor a point Edgar, but wood gathering for 1.7 billion does incur
forest chopping. Yes it is renewable, but if one is focus not only on flora,
but fauna, giving this 1.7 billion a good substitute seems to be the way to go.
My own personal favorite is wind, sun, and molten salt, but
1. Germany, when they shut down their nukes in 2011, restarted the old coal
burners using US coal, and dirtied their skies.
2. The German government has just began firing up their uranium burners.
3. 25% renewables sound like a great start, but this focuses attention on the
remaining 75%
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
Climate models predict that there should be plenty of statistical
fluctuation on the level of individual decades,
Well now, it would be pretty difficult for that prediction to be proven
wrong. It reminds me of the famous
On 25 March 2014 06:28, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
Climate models predict that there should be plenty of statistical
fluctuation on the level of individual decades,
Well now, it would be pretty difficult
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On
On 22 March 2014 22:07, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Germany is scaling down its nuclear energy production and plans to shut
down all of it's nucler power plants in the next two decades. This is due
to political pressure from the green party amongst others. Meanwhile, it is
On 22 Mar 2014, at 10:07, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-03-21
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:16 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 March 2014 22:07, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Germany is scaling down its nuclear energy production and plans to shut
down all of it's nucler power plants in the next two decades. This is due
to political
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux
Richard,
Yes, I noted that in the article. Another explanation I've read for the
current (geologically during the past million or so years) fairly regular
cycle of ice ages is that it is due to the current distribution of
continents, in particular the closing of the Isthmus of Panama which cut
Edgar,
What mechanism do they propose for such an abrupt transition
from extreme warming to cooling?
I would suggest a stoppage of the Gulf stream as a possibility
based on plate movement.
But I favor the change in albedo due to an unstable jet stream
known to result from arctic warming.
Richard,
Since ice ages have been fairly regular since they began, the theory is
that the current arrangement of continents sets up a condition in which
Milankovich cycles produce regular ice ages. The Milankovich cycles are
certainly regular of course which seems to be something that is
Edgar,
I gather you have not looked at the link I provided which compares
isolation due to the Milankovitch cycles to the Vostok data as well as
comparable data over a longer time.
http://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/milankovitch-cycles-chart-3.jpg
Please do so and tell me if you think
Veering for a moment back to public policy, this is an example on why I prefer
tech solutions as opposed to public policy, which is really control. This
scientist aim to reduce stunting via plant breeding.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/03/make-plants-more-nutritious-to-prevent.html
Richard,
Here is a much better graph showing the correlation. Edgar
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:34:08 AM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
Edgar,
I gather you have not looked at the link I provided which compares
isolation due to the Milankovitch cycles to the Vostok data as well as
comparable
Spud,
Better evidence is that the little ice age was caused by solar variations
esp the Maunder minimum. It lasted too long to be attributed to volcanos I
would think. However volcanos and smaller asteroid impacts do certainly
cause temporary temperature dips lasting for periods of a few years
Edgar,
It is hardly a 1:1 correlation. However, if those cycles worked for the
last 1/2 million years, they should be expected to still be working now and
we can expect global cooling to occur again.
Richard
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Spud,
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50
Another reason to favor something robust as a true answer, (technology) rather
then orders from above. If we need an example of the biggest human-created
disaster in history, it would be Mao's Great Leap Forward (1958-62) where Mao
ordered the peasants to chase birds around and make sure that
Agreed, Edgar. I remember the Mount Pinatubo eruption in the Philippines, that
destroyed a US air force base (Subic Bay?) and provided the continental US
with, a year without a summer. There were a couple of large meteor strikes in
the 3rd and 5th century, the later in northern Italy, the
Richard,
The correlation is actually pretty solid, though the discrepancies may
indicate some other factors at play also.
And what makes you think another ice age isn't coming? it's more or less
time for the next one.
Or perhaps global warming is what will either stop it or make it less
On 3/22/2014 8:08 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:45:56 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 22 Mar 2014, at 10:07, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allc...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comjavascript:
:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:59 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/22/2014 8:08 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux
Spud,
If only dead wood is cut for firewood and cooking you are just recycling a
sustainable resource. Unlike coal and oil, firewood quickly and sustainably
regenerates. And basically burning dead wood is just speeding up the
natural process of the decay of dead trees.
So burning dead wood
Spud,
But reducing human overpopulation IS the main problem facing the planet,
the ecosystem, and the human species itself.
Assuming that increasing technology will somehow solve the problem is, I
fear, naive. It is precisely the use of more and more powerful technology
that has resulted in
You are picking up the inconsistencies given off by the Greens (red greens) and
the ruling class that funds them.
If we are doomed as even he NASA funded report assures us, then what's the use?
If the calamity is not upon us, then we have time to rationally develop and
install the clean and
I fear the control they want only exist in your mind... You should
consult... seriously.
You live in a delusional paranoia.
2014-03-21 12:20 GMT+01:00 spudboy...@aol.com:
You are picking up the inconsistencies given off by the Greens (red
greens) and the ruling class that funds them.
If we
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:16 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Tackling thing technically will save lots or preaching, in emails, and
public speaking. For example, if you cook all your food by wood-gathering,
you are more likely to disrupt the forests by your gatherings. If you have
access to
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Spud,
But reducing human overpopulation IS the main problem facing the planet,
the ecosystem, and the human species itself.
Assuming that increasing technology will somehow solve the problem is, I
fear, naive. It is
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
The thing I most want to know about RCP4.5 is what RCP stands for,
Google seems to think it's Rich Client Platform but that doesn't sound
quite right. It must be pretty obscure, Wikipedia has never heard of RCP
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
The thing I most want to know about RCP4.5 is what RCP stands for,
Google seems to think it's Rich Client Platform but that doesn't sound
quite right.
Well, as far as the impact of the extremely wealthy, on our politics, I would
simply point to this Obama-friendly blog, which has been spun off from the
Washington Post, also Obama friendly.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/barach-obama-tech-ceos-nsa-104881.html?hp=l1
- a few other
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
The thing I most want to know about RCP4.5 is what RCP stands for,
Google seems to think it's Rich Client Platform but that doesn't sound
2014-03-21 17:52 GMT+01:00 Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
The thing I most want to know about RCP4.5 is what RCP stands for,
Google
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
The thing I most want to know about RCP4.5 is what RCP stands for,
2014-03-21 17:59 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
The
Jesse,
Sure, I'm well aware of these predictions, but my point is that many
necessary global resources are being rapidly depleted by just the current
human population, so even that is not sustainable.
In general the standard demographic predictions don't pay much attention to
the dwindling
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Quentin Anciaux
On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
mailto:allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-03-21 17:19 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:50 AM,
From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating
On 3/21/2014 9:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:24
I agree with JM on this, because it appears that the higher the quality of
life, the tendency is for selecting reduced family sizes. But turning away from
technology and somehow using it sustainably, would, I believe wind up with a
redistribution of wealth, just using the tech we have now, and
I understand where you're coming from, Telmo, and yes, the most recent study
from a NASA sponsored climate analysis does indicate that we are doomed (their
wording not mine) and I disagree of course. Reducing energy consumption can get
us through the short term, but the intermediate term, and
Yes, or neomarxist, neostalinst, die-offs. Billionaire, elites, pols, greens,
Marxists, sort of a toxic stew. Obama, the UN, the EU. Good problems to attack,
but merely using them as an excuse for control and exploitation. No technical
responses, only, more totalitarianism.
Paint and troll
Please remember, solar, to remediate, must replace all nat gas, all coal, all
uranium, all petro that all cities and cars. There are wonderful looking
projects that have been proposed for 50 years, that for technical reasons,
cannot achieve much, other than getting cheers from admirers in the
2014-03-20 14:34 GMT+01:00 spudboy...@aol.com:
Please remember, solar, to remediate, must replace all nat gas, all
coal, all uranium, all petro that all cities and cars.
No it doesn't have to... it's not because it can't currently replace
everything that it can't replace part of it... and it
Good point, but this is what things are veering towards, or we are already
there! Plutocracy, rule by the rich, who influence purchased politicians, who
know how to successfully bribe people who want food stamps (in the US), who
need free cell phones, who need free health services (no matter
Very well, go ahead and power it all down. Shut off the cars, kill the lights,
take a bike. Are you suggesting that we continue to burn filthy coal, or
horrible uranium, while we try to goose up solar and wind to replace it?!! Why
that will take decades and the catastrophe is already upon us.
2014-03-20 14:55 GMT+01:00 spudboy...@aol.com:
Very well, go ahead and power it all down. Shut off the cars, kill the
lights, take a bike.
What sort of crazy are you ? Why are you adding things not written ? Can
you just count in binary ? Everything is always an all or nothing in your
mind ?
I am pragmatic enough to see that if government worked best on tackling a
problem, I would endorse it. There does seem to be a rule of elites, a ruling
class, in effect, worldwide, that consists of billionaires, their politicians,
and academics, media, union leaders, and their choices in
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:55 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Very well, go ahead and power it all down. Shut off the cars, kill the
lights, take a bike. Are you suggesting that we continue to burn filthy
coal, or horrible uranium, while we try to goose up solar and wind to
replace it?!! Why
Quentin, simply make your choice. Are you trusting of this mix of politicians
and billionaires doing what is smart on energy and the environment, or are you
suspicious of these guys because they appear to be doing poor job on either?
Inconsistencies in behavior regarding public policy, a lack
Tackling thing technically will save lots or preaching, in emails, and public
speaking. For example, if you cook all your food by wood-gathering, you are
more likely to disrupt the forests by your gatherings. If you have access to
cheap solar, wind, and maybe natural gas lines, then the urge
Spud,
Using firewood properly done does NOT disrupt the forest. I've used
firewood for heating most of my life including currently. I use only dead
trees from my own property (16 acres), not taking any with nesting holes.
Only very rarely do I cut a live tree when it's clearly on its last legs
On 21 March 2014 02:34, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Please remember, solar, to remediate, must replace all nat gas, all coal,
all uranium, all petro that all cities and cars.
What do you mean by this? Why couldn't solar replace SOME of the above?
I'm sorry but you haven't really answered my
On 21 March 2014 06:24, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Spud,
Using firewood properly done does NOT disrupt the forest. I've used
firewood for heating most of my life including currently. I use only dead
trees from my own property (16 acres), not taking any with nesting holes.
Only
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:55 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Very well, go ahead and power it all down. Shut off the cars, kill the
lights, take a bike. Are you suggesting that we continue to burn filthy
coal, or horrible uranium, while we try to goose up solar and wind to
replace it?!! Why
You have a point, Edgar, and you yourself do not have a bad effect on the
environment. However, a billion and one half fellow firewood gatherers, might
have a more profound impact, and they may do a bit more than chopping then you
do. Following Maslow's hierarchy of needs, when peoples
Spud,
The best, likely the only, way to protect the environment is to drastically
reduce human overpopulation. Down to pre-industrial levels would be a good
target ~half to 1 billion...
Anyway if we don't do it ourselves the environment will do it for us...
Edgar
On Thursday, March 20,
Oh we can. However the environmentalists and their funders indicate that its
all over, and kiss it all goodbye I profoundly disagree and guess that there's
plenty of time before the shit hits the fan. Panic is the tool or those wishing
to benefit from political rush to judgment. I submit that
I am very ok with a transition, I believe we have the time. But I maintain that
we won't get there with controlling people, but we can with innovations in
technology. What I oppose is using AGW as an excuse to rule the serfs. Here's
a break down from The Guardian, which you may guess is not
Edgar, understood. But this shouldn't be the top of our priority, unless we are
spreading homo sapiens to various parts of the solar system where humanity, and
biomes, can be sustained for a very long time. Getting away from science
fiction, there are things we can do until this golden
Spudboy100,
I'm not sure where you're coming from. You seem to agree that there is a
looming environmental / resources problem, and that we should use
technology to make a transition to more renewable energy sources and so on.
And you agree that we should ideally reduce the population long term
Sorry that should read equal opportunitie*d* - serves me right for
throwing in a neologism.
On 21 March 2014 14:23, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Spudboy100,
I'm not sure where you're coming from. You seem to agree that there is a
looming environmental / resources problem, and that we
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think I am incorrect in saying that your list does NOT look
like the general policy recommendations that most of those who see an
urgent need to curb global warming could agree on?
Yes.
And what is this
2014-03-19 15:44 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think I am incorrect in saying that your list does NOT look
like the general policy recommendations that most of those who see an
urgent need to curb
2014-03-19 15:48 GMT+01:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
2014-03-19 15:44 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think I am incorrect in saying that your list does NOT look
like the general
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
I have offered quite a few prescriptions - none of which you will
approve of, because they entail the adoption of a new ethic of material
frugality, of having a light footprint, and of adopting sustainable
John,
If human overpopulation is not drastically reduced humanely it will
inevitably be drastically reduced INhumanely...
There are a number of ways to reduce human overpopulation humanely. Mainly
by offering sufficient financial incentives to women of child bearing age
to undergo voluntary
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On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Chris
I heartily agree, but I was focusing on technological remediation for AGW, for
energy, etc. I am against the management of people by government edict. Yes,
computer and electronics engineers are abetting a fascist system worldwide, but
I am hoping that physicists, mechanical and chemical
Here's an article that informs me, if nobody else, how complicated the climate
thing is.
http://phys.org/news/2014-03-goldilocks-principle-hypothesis-earth-habitability.html
Beyond that I agree with John on his estimate of cutting the standard of living
down, to fit the ideal environmental
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:10 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Here's an article that informs me, if nobody else, how complicated the
climate thing is.
http://phys.org/news/2014-03-goldilocks-principle-hypothesis-earth-habitability.html
Beyond that I agree with John on his estimate of cutting
To both you and John: If I wanted a subscription to Wall Street journal, USA
Today, Fox etc. I'd buy them
If I wanted lectures from the Green Party, the International Socialist
Movement. or any Marxist cult, I'd have joined them and would be agreeing with
you. I want technical solutions
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:34 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
To both you and John: If I wanted a subscription to Wall Street journal,
USA Today, Fox etc. I'd buy them
If I wanted lectures from the Green Party, the International Socialist
Movement. or any Marxist cult, I'd have joined them and
On 20 March 2014 07:10, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Here's an article that informs me, if nobody else, how complicated the
climate thing is.
http://phys.org/news/2014-03-goldilocks-principle-hypothesis-earth-habitability.html
Beyond that I agree with John on his estimate of cutting the
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I heartily agree, but I was focusing on technological remediation for AGW,
for energy, etc. I am against the management of people by government edict.
Yes, computer and
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:36:25 AM UTC+11, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
At some point, Pierz, one has to use one's senses.
Quite so, but you were making a completely invalid leap of reasoning from
your sense data - something along the lines of I see birds singing in the
trees, so mass
Breaking your ideas down, I do still hold that the figure cited as 10,000 is
imprecise. It seems as a selling point. But with a focus on accurate measures,
and I say that whats been presented is not accurate. However, it could even be
worse than 10,000. As I have tried to get environmentalists
On 19 March 2014 08:46, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Breaking your ideas down, I do still hold that the figure cited as 10,000
is imprecise. It seems as a selling point. But with a focus on accurate
measures, and I say that whats been presented is not accurate. However, it
could even be worse
On 3/18/2014 4:12 PM, LizR wrote:
On 19 March 2014 08:46, spudboy...@aol.com mailto:spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Breaking your ideas down, I do still hold that the figure cited as 10,000 is
imprecise. It seems as a selling point. But with a focus on accurate
measures, and I
say that
On 19 March 2014 13:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
The market means you can have as much freedom as you can pay for.
Nicely put. I may put that in my collection of quotes.
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At some point, Pierz, one has to use one's senses. This is part or the
scientific endeavor as well. Observe, record, and measure, hopefully in common
units, milibars, meters, kilograms, parsecs. But one must observe and try to
make sense of things. Just as the oil companies say no, no, no, we
On the subject of environmentalists wanting to save the planet even at the
expense of the human race, it's heartening to see the latest missive from
Greenpeace, which starts...
Nobody wants tigers to go extinct, but consider this; *without healthy
forests our own survival may also be under
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:55:41 AM UTC+11, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
I think that if extinction rates was 10k, you would already see silent
spring round the globe.
WHA?? You think that? Based on what analysis? I imagine that you, like
me, live in a metropolis where in the course of a
Richard,
Yes, it's fun to watch everyone who was dumping on Edgar now dumping on
each other even more viciously!
So maybe it wasn't Edgar after all, but those who were doing the dumping?
:-)
Edgar
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:23:28 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
The situation at everything
Umm... no. It was you. Great big smiley face.
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:15:24 PM UTC+11, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Richard,
Yes, it's fun to watch everyone who was dumping on Edgar now dumping on
each other even more viciously!
So maybe it wasn't Edgar after all, but those who were doing
Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com on Sat, Mar 15, 2014 wrote:
I think debate is like a sport where it's OK to be aggressive within some
very circumscribed bounds, do you see it differently?
No I agree. And I don't mind if you call me an asshole but don't call me a
creationist, that's going
Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com on Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:44 AM
Are you trying to imply that species are not dying off at alarming rate?
I hate to see any species go extinct (except for the Smallpox virus) but
there are other things that alarm me more.
I don't think so but even if
On 16 March 2014 15:23, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
The situation at everything list seems to be deteriorating.
Teehee. Time to send in the clean-up squad...?
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All,
In terms of the Permian and Cretaceous extinctions the theory I find most
compelling in both cases is asteroid strikes whose resulting strike
energies were also focused at the antipodes. The energy of the Cretaceous
strike off the Yucatan was focused in India where it ruptured the crust
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Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:57 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating
All,
In terms of the Permian
On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:35:19 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jesse Mazer laser...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
So, like a creationist
You need a new insult, you've used that one before.
It's not an insult
Of course not, I'm sure that being
On 16 March 2014 12:19, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
sweet jesus...why do you bother yourself johnny boy, with such
slobbering drivel when your hearts not in it. Get an evil little mini-me
sidekick...
Looks like someone has discovered a new insult! Whatever happened to
netiquette?
I found that
The situation at everything list seems to be deteriorating.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 March 2014 12:19, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
sweet jesus...why do you bother yourself johnny boy, with such
slobbering drivel when your hearts not in it. Get an
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:08:13 AM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 16 March 2014 12:19, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
sweet jesus...why do you bother yourself johnny boy, with such
slobbering drivel when your hearts not in it. Get an evil little mini-me
sidekick...
Looks like someone has
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