Re: [Felvtalk] Charles
Has he been checked for Mediastinal Lymphoma? On 8/13/2013 7:11 AM, Beth wrote: Actually if you do an abdominal tap of the fluid you can pretty much tell just by looking at it if it is FIP. It is a very distinct, stringy, yellow fluid. I'm not a vet, but the 1st time I saw it tapped off one of my cats I knew exactly what it was. But that is usually in the abdomen, not the chest, which is where the fluid seems to be in Charles. Fluid in the chest could be a heart condition, but that is usually not accompanied by swollen lymph nodes. Glad he is feeling a bit better hope the x-rays or ultrasound tell you what is going on. Beth -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://freeanimalrescuewebsites.org http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charles
http://www.fabcats.org/owners/cancer/lymphoma.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphoma_in_animals It is a very aggressive cancer but a very curable one, if it is this treatment would need to be started immediately. I know of many cats that have gone into remission, some for many years only to die years late of something else. It is generally a young cat cancer and like I said can be put into remission quickly but must be treated quickly. I am on a feline lymphoma list if you are interested in learning more, we actually have a vet on the list who is very helpful. You can join the list here is you would like to check into it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/ I will say a prayer for you Charles I hope it is something that is treatable. On 8/13/2013 7:11 AM, Beth wrote: Actually if you do an abdominal tap of the fluid you can pretty much tell just by looking at it if it is FIP. It is a very distinct, stringy, yellow fluid. I'm not a vet, but the 1st time I saw it tapped off one of my cats I knew exactly what it was. But that is usually in the abdomen, not the chest, which is where the fluid seems to be in Charles. Fluid in the chest could be a heart condition, but that is usually not accompanied by swollen lymph nodes. Glad he is feeling a bit better hope the x-rays or ultrasound tell you what is going on. Beth -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://freeanimalrescuewebsites.org http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charles
Here is our website where you can also get info: http://felinelymphoma.org/cms/ (one of these days I will get it completely finished :) ) On 8/13/2013 11:49 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote: Has he been checked for Mediastinal Lymphoma? On 8/13/2013 7:11 AM, Beth wrote: Actually if you do an abdominal tap of the fluid you can pretty much tell just by looking at it if it is FIP. It is a very distinct, stringy, yellow fluid. I'm not a vet, but the 1st time I saw it tapped off one of my cats I knew exactly what it was. But that is usually in the abdomen, not the chest, which is where the fluid seems to be in Charles. Fluid in the chest could be a heart condition, but that is usually not accompanied by swollen lymph nodes. Glad he is feeling a bit better hope the x-rays or ultrasound tell you what is going on. Beth -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://freeanimalrescuewebsites.org http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Just resubscribed
Hi All, Apparently I wasn't subscribed anymore and didn't realize it. I am subscribed again now. **NEWS** We now have a DOG, her name is Emma and we adopted her from a local rescue. She is a chihuahua mix. How has everyone been?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://freeanimalrescuewebsites.org http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch link
I don't know what the truth is here but I do know PETA is no friend to any animal, they KILL more animals that, shelters, hoarders or abusers put together. They are EVIL. Their agenda is to make animal companionship illegal ... period! http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ http://www.petakillsanimals.com/downloads/PetaKillsAnimals.pdf This has been known for a long time ... take the time to learn the truth. On 3/5/2012 7:29 AM, Heather wrote: I'm just posting this link in case anyone is interested in hearing the other side of the story--I am not trying to take either side but thought this may be of interest to some. � I can't say which side is right--my guess would be neither and that the truth lies somewhere in between, however, PETA is absolutely using this case to try to fight the Florida Animal Rescue Act and for me, their involvement really skews things.� Again though just posting since this case has been discussed here.� Thanks! http://caboodleranch.livejournal.com/43479.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch link
More Info on how great PETA is: http://www.consumerfreedom.com/?s=PETAsubmit=Search http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/first_let_kill_all_the_animals_DnyhE723tSo64mkmmM9SUN http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/24/documents-peta-kills-more-than-95-percent-of-pets-in-its-care/ **“PETA hasn’t slowed down its slaughterhouse operation,” said Rick Berman, CCF’s (Center For Consumer Freedom) executive director. “It appears PETA is more concerned with funding its media and advertising antics than finding suitable homes for these dogs and cats.”** **PETA said in an April 2011 interview with Newsweek that the ‘no-kill’ policy simply wasn’t possible. ‘We would rather offer these animals a painless death than have them tortured, starved, or sold for research,’ Daphna Nachminovitch told the magazine.** DISGUSTING -- OK, I'm done now! Thanks Heather for bring this to light. I don't know anything about Craig or his rescue but my gut, intuition tells me the Live Journal story below is closer to the truth. = On 3/5/2012 7:29 AM, Heather wrote: I'm just posting this link in case anyone is interested in hearing the other side of the story--I am not trying to take either side but thought this may be of interest to some. � I can't say which side is right--my guess would be neither and that the truth lies somewhere in between, however, PETA is absolutely using this case to try to fight the Florida Animal Rescue Act and for me, their involvement really skews things.� Again though just posting since this case has been discussed here.� Thanks! http://caboodleranch.livejournal.com/43479.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS
Hi Sherry, Please tell Marcia I am sorry for her loss, I have Brutus added to 2011's losses. On 1/2/2012 7:46 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: I didn't get the chance to send this earlier,but sweet Brutus crossed the Bridge last Friday Dec 23,he was lucky to of had a home with our wonderful volunteer Marcia who lost several of the Sids kids that she took home this past year. Many of us had multiple losses in 2011,lets hope for a healthier year for our precious fur kids. Many blessings to all of my friends and support here on the felv group.You are all a blessing to me too :) Sherry -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Urgent Positive Kitties need home or rescue, Mom and Baby
Hi All, I got this email today, please be sure and pass this on to everyone you know and make sure they contact Rebecca at the numbers listed if they can help! Please respond asap if you have anyone that could provide a young FELUK (FELV)positive Mom (6 mo.old) and a 12 week old baby a home or rescue...we will provide all shots up to date and spays. These cats are so sweet and gentle and we bathed them tonight and they were wonderful. They had been living outside and being fed by some caring people until they contacted us to rescue them. We have no facilities for Feluk (FELV)kitties and no place to isolate them. I am very upset at the possiblity that we may have to put them down because of this as they are so wonderful and trusting...the mom is a torbie and the baby a lilac tabby. *Please respond to wilowcreeksanctu...@roadrunner.com asap or call me at 859 236 7019 or 859 583 8273. I will have to have someone by Friday the 18th of November.PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOWTHANK YOU Rebecca* Willow Creek Sanctuary, Inc. where it is not just a life, it's a gift -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Hi Bonnie, I would take her to your place, feed her right away so she knows that is your intention. Also make sure she know your aunt's cat is there with you, she is and has been aware of that cat while she was at your aunts and it will give her some familiarity and may help keep her there. Don't be discouraged if at first she disappears for a few days, she will want to check out her new neighborhood. Just keep putting food out and in your mind picture her living there and welcome. Hopefully she will decided survival is more important than territory. On 8/11/2011 6:05 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Great idea! On 8/11/2011 6:19 AM, kathryn mundell wrote: Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Sorry to Ask so much, but...
This is the same type of crate I used on my cross country trip with the kitties in the semi, I bought 4 of these, 2, 36 and 2, 42 sizes, only difference is mine have 3 doors (one on the side too). They are very nice, easy to fold and set up, On 8/11/2011 9:18 AM, Natalie wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Folding-Crate-Cage-Kennel/dp/B004G4W2I4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1313079277sr=8-6 http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Folding-Crate-Cage-Kennel/dp/B004G4W2I4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1313079277sr=8-6 *look at this one for 41.99 Opens from top and has 2 doors, apparently.* -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(
Hi Sherry, I have added Zombo, so sorry, it's been a really rough week ... I feel like I've missed someone can you have a look when you're up to it and let me know, thanks. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - Please help Ivana
Hi Kelley, Such a sad story and yes I can relate, I am very over protective and I have had a cat get out, so it definitely can happen. Make sure that if he gets her back to get her microchipped, by law, at least in WA state any vet has to check for that when an owner brings in a new cat. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
Hi Esther, I'm sorry to hear about sweet little Xana, I have added her to the CLS. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Umberto Please add to the CLS :(
Aww Sherry, sound like a sweetie pie, when did he pass? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, no onion in them. On 5/8/2011 2:16 PM, Natalie wrote: Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some fiber? Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it). -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas, not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar of peas to a jar of meat. On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, no onion in them. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives
My Bailey lived with his housemates from the time he was 5 months old (tested positive then) until he passed of cancer at age 11 years, they slept, ate, groomed and on occasion had little spats, none of his vaccinated housemates ever became positive. I had them tested intermittently and they were always negative. I lost Bailey in 2006 and his remaining housemates are still negative. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives
Bailey was really very healthy until his last year, he started having teeth problems and we had to pull a lot of his teeth, then he was fine for about 6 months and then stopped eating and became very anemic and lethargic and had constant diarrhea. We did the bone marrow aspirate and they found pre cancer cells so we were pretty sure he was developing cancer somewhere but we couldn't find it. We did ultrasounds, bloodwork but nothing was conclusive. He had a feeding tube because he wouldn't eat anything and I could tell he was uncomfortable when he got fed, I asked my vet if he could possibly have pancreatitis but she said his bloodwork didn't bear that out. I wish I had done the pancreatitis test but I didn't and after he passed 6 months later we did a necropsy and he had pancreatic cancer. If I had done that test when I noticed his eating aversion I may have caught it before it turned into cancer ... He never got any special food or meds until he got sick, then I gave him things to try and boost his immune system, but Bailey didn't like getting meds so I did only the bare minimum because stress is the worst thing for positives and getting meds was stressful for him. With the feeding tube it was a lot easier and he got more stuff then. On 4/15/2011 1:30 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote: Belinda, What a relief to hear! I feel you are so lucky because I don't hear very many stories as yours. I have read that 85% of kitties that test positive on the IFA test, don't live past 3 1/2 yrs. I'm so glad that you were able to enjoy Bailey as long as you did! What meds did you have him on? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(
Hi All, I have added, Lola, Rosie and Muffy to the Candle Light Service, my condolences to all of you, their passing is so sad, but sweet little Lola really tore me up, I have a little one that looks just like her, she is small for her age and she is a joy I wouldn't want to not have in my life ... I can't imagine people being so self absorbed and cruel. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] MaryChristine
Thank you Gloria for letting us know, I had no idea she had any heart issues. Please let her, through her friend know I am praying for her to have a speedy and full recovery. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........Legal aid
yes I would be interested in WA state to make everything nice and legal, I have relatives who may not be happy with my decision ... if you know what I mean. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries
If hubby and I die before my furkids, my sister gets our house and insurance and will take our kitties, she has 6 of her own and I trust her with my life. She can sell the house or live in it and will have more than enough to take care of them for the rest of their lives. If we all die in a car accident, my vet will get everything and said she will take care of our furkids. Hopefully that covers them!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
My Vet spays and neuters when they are 4 lbs, so all of my guys were done about a month ago. 2 boys and a girl, all did fine. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescue work
Amen!! On 12/22/2010 2:37 PM, Natalie wrote: So did I! We really should know to whom we send our money. It is always best to donate to local small groups - they always operate on shoestring budgets and do more than any large group (in my humble estimation)! Natalie -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
That is on my checks too! happiness is being owned by cats ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky has large cell lymphoma
Stacy, I don't know if you already are on the feline lymphoma list but if you aren't i would suggest it, it is a wonderful list for support and treatment options. You can find it here if you are interested: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/ We also have a website with tons of info: http://felinelymphoma.org -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky has large cell lymphoma
This is not always the case I know of several FeLV+ kitties with cancer that did well, one lived for 4 years with treatment. You need a good vet and a lot of luck but you will never know unless you try. I wouldn't let a positive status alone dictate whether I tried treatment, whether its chemo or something else, every kitty is an individual and positive or not they are going to respond or not respond to treatment based on that. Stacy, I joined this group several months ago, and as sad as this is, all the FeLV+ with lymphoma die in a short period of time. My little Buddy Cat was just over a year old when he died 9/23/10. He was a stray we got when he was 6 weeks old 9/09 and was very sickly. He recouped real quick. At this time I knew nothing of FeLV or lymphoma. 12/09 he was neutered and did great. In June 2010 he had 2 large lymph nodes and was diagnosed with FeLV. July, August September, we did absolutely everything not even weighing out the financial cost. We truly loved this kitty and he was very special. We tried LCTI, interferon, homeopathic, lasix, rutin, vitamins and chemo. He had a will to live and didn't want to die. His chest filled up with fluid several times and I had him tapped. The last time I took him to be tapped the vet killed him, she manhandled him. The chemo, pred and LCTI did help, but even with chemo it only extends the life for a short time. Felv + with lymphoma is a double whammy. I think one without the other is treatable and they can live much longer. I am sorry to seems so cold about this, my heart is still very broken 2 1/2 months later. We would have spent/did anyhting to save our Buddy Cat. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky has large cell lymphoma
One thing you should know, large cell is very aggressive and needs to be treated as such, it spreads very quickly so treatment needs to be started pretty much immediately if you are going to treat. BUT it also responds to treatment fairly quickly if it is going to respond, so you will know fairly soon if treatment is going to work. Where is the cancer? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky has large cell lymphoma
And yes, some kitties get pretty sick in the beginning of treatment because the cancer isn't going to just lay down and die but once the cancer cells start dying off and they go into remission if the treatment works, you would never know they had ever been sick. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky Fluid in chest
Just an FYI, diuretics can be used with kidney problem kitties it is just a very delicate balancing act. I had to with Fred and another girl on the CRF list had to with her kitty for almost 2 years. Fred also started having seizures and we got to the point where there was nothing more I could do and the diuretics didn't help with his last attack, he passed from heart failure. Her kitty did much better but her kitty never had the seizure problem Fred developed. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Caesar Please add to the CLS :(
Hi Mike, Here is the Candle Light Service, we have had it for many years: http://bemikitties.com/cls there are many wonderful furkids remembered here. I also have this website with info and photos of some of our positives: http://felv.org -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
Mike, Michael is a well known member of the group and does take in and take care of feLV+ cats, he has even taken some group member cats, hopefully one of them will speak up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
Hi Mike, No offense taken, just wanted to let you know he was legitimate:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list
So sorry to hear about Chloe's passing, I have added her to the candle light service. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Someone Looking to adopt a positive
Hi All, This is a new post the the FeLV ads board, anyone who rescues, this is someone in Flushing Michigan looking to adopt another positive to keep their current positive company: http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=12544 Please be sure if you contact them with a possible adoptable to check them out carefully, I don't know anything about anyone that posts here. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda
You can always build an enclosure to let them have some outside time. After 3 of ours all indoor all of their lives pushed out a screen and got out, one Bailey kept wanting to go out, so after him driving us nuts for a month or so rolling in front of the door and trying to get out every chance he had we decided to build an enclosure. It is off out back door and we have a pet door in the kitchen window that they use. It is 21 feet by 22 feet in size and 8 feet high, our back door opens out to it and we and the kitties can spend time outside anytime they want, the top is covered with chicken wire to keep them in and the hawks out. They love it!!! Here are some pictures, this is before we added the pet door in the kitchen window and the steps leading up to it. http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc
Baileys anemia was non regenerative and epogen and prednisolone kick started his red cell production and he did fine for almost 6 months, he passed from undiagnosed pancreatic cancer but his HCT when he passed was still at 33%. He started the epo when his HCT was at 18%, it dropped to 15% (this is normal for it to drop for 2 to 3 weeks), then started going up, when it got to 40% we started dosing once a week instead of 3 times a week and he did fine for almost 6 months. You have to keep an eye on blood pressure as epogen can raise it. Most Drs. freak out when it continues to drop thinking they are having an antibody reaction, that is not the case, sometimes it takes 2 to 3 weeks to start working and sometimes the dose isn't high enough. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] URGENT: help needed re: info on transfusions/epogen, etc
PS. My vet did more than 5 transfusions on a positive and never had problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Restricting cat from stairs
What is the kitties potassium and blood pressure? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing methods, and forms of leukemia
Bailey has a bone marrow aspirate because we couldn't find any reason for his anemia, it showed the virus was active and was destroying his new blood as fast as it was being produced and there were precancerous cells there, we could never find were the suspected cancer was and after he passed and a necropsy was done it was pancreatic cancer. We put him on prednisolone, iron, and epogen and reversed his anemia. His HCT was at 20%, went down to 18% by the time I got the epogen, went to 15% the first tow weeks while on it and then started going up. It got up to 40% and we lowered the epogen dose from 3 times a week to once a week. When he passed his HCT was at 33%, normal and he had been on the epogen for about 5 months, without it he would have died months before. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Angel
Hi Jody, I'm so sorry to hear about Bo, I have added him to the Candle Light Service, he is whole and healthy now and still with you in a different but special way ... take care. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] more about Kia
Are you suer he doesn't mean cancer and not FeLV? This is when he told me her lymphocytes have dramatically increased just since the last workup a couple weeks ago. He is convinced she has circulating leukemia/lymphoma. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)
Almost all cats I know that do this are anemic. She should get her to the vet and have blood work done specifically looking for anemia and hemobartonella a virus positives are very prone to get, it comes from fleas and even if the test is negative I would start the cat on doxocycline and prednisolone. It is very, very, very hard to find the parasites on a slide, I know of cats that have been tested 5 or 6 times before they actually found the parasite, thankfully their vets put them on the doxy and pred or they may very well have died. Hemobartonella is fatal if not treated. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] new to the list and to FeLV (litter eating)
Yes that should be added along with iron, all of these can be found in Nutrived: http://www.calvetsupply.com/product/Nutrived_B_Complex_4oz/Veterinary_Nutritional_Supplements this is the best palce I have found to buy this. BUT if the anemia is because of hemobatonella this will not help, you need to have the cat on doxy or some other tetrocycline family antibiotic and prednisolone. Diane, eating litter is a classic sign of anemia. Here is the link to a Yahoo Anemia group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/ Anemia is common with FeLV+ kitties. Your client could try adding some Super B Complex, B12 and folic acid to the kitty's food. Sharyl -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] i was wrong. it wasn't the ifa test the vet ran.
Hi Laura, In many cases I would say this is true, because those animals are going to be the easiest to find homes for, and lets face it the ones that have health issues are going to cost the rescues lots of money to fix and many if not most people who adopt from rescues don't want to pay the ridiculously high adoption fee. Rescues come and pick the prettiest and the fanciest dogs and cats; for the most part, there's very little actual rescue going on there. That said, I work with many rescues and some of them actually go out of their way to find the ones they know are going to be euthanized to save, I am very proud of these groups, they spend a ton of money on getting these guy ready to be adoptable and it mostly comes out of their own pockets because right now donations are at an all time low. One of my rescues in particular has recently spent thousands and thousands on dogs that have had to have major surgeries and took a whole litter and mom who ended up coming from the shelter with parvo, they saved every last one of them and it cost them a fortune. They did get some donations but the majority of the money came from what they had saved up to use to rescue. It completely drained their funds but all of those animals are alive and will eventually find good homes. This rescue is in Maryland and they tirelessly work to pull those animals that will absolutely be euthanized. My Lhasa rescue pulls and takes many, many seniors and behavioral problem dogs, seniors who have devoted their lives loving their human only to be dumped when they become a problem because of health issues or the owners have decided they want to travel or just don't want to bother anymore with their devoted pet ... sickening. They also take many puppy mill dogs, many end up being forever fosters because it would be too traumatic to rehome them, they have a lot of issues, and then some do fine once they learn how to be a dog and are rehomed. They are a nationwide group and have more funds at their disposal but they too deplete their funds constantly because of declining donations. And yes every once in a while they take puppies or younger dogs because that does help bring funds in when they can easily adopt those into homes and get the adoption fee. But they still spend alot more than they get in as far as donations go. The head of this group lives in PA and is working with the state government to put the Amish Puppy Mills out of business and has really made a difference, many of them have closed and many more are closing. The Amish are horrible when it comes to their animals, just horrible. I just wanted to make a point for those rescues who really are in it to save the animals and are trying to educate the public to be responsible pet owners. And you are right about one thing for sure, it is people, the irresponsible owners who don't spay/neuter that are to blame for the death of so many healthy animals. Until we learn to value ALL life as worthy and more people understand that our pets have feelings and feel love for us and feel our love for them it will never change, people are selfish and many tell themselves animals don't have feelings and they are just an animal we will have this problem. We as a nation and world are in a sad state of affairs, I don't have many close, personal friends because honestly I don't like most people! *** Not anyone on my groups of course because we all think alike ... and know what life and living is all about. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] some comfort
Wow sounds like he is very talented and has a good connection with the spirit world. I'm glad he was able to give you some comfort and let you know that Bridget is OK and well. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brillo and Desmond Are Anemic
All kidney issue cats that become anemic are non regenerative and get epogen, it saves their lives. I know he isn't a kidney issues kitty but non regenerative is non regenerative!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brillo and Desmond Are Anemic
PS. Doxy tastes bad so you have to make sure they don't get a taste of it or they will be impossible to pill. It took me a while to get the hang of pilling my furkids, Fred was really bad and hard to pill, but one day I just stopped thought about how I have seen the vet do (always so easy without any problems), and pictured in my head how they hold the kitties head with the palm of their hand pretty much covering the kitties top of the head and eyes and with their thumb and forefinger one at each corner of the kitties mouth and with the other hand with the pill between the thumb and forefinger use the middle finger to flip the chin down, put the pill way back in the mouth and close the mouth and gently blow on their face, they will swallow. Of course all of this is done very quickly. Once I got that down in my head I have never had any problems pilling any cat, mine or anyone else's. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat
That's great news, she knew you needed someone ... and they needed you!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat
I actually believe there are those who have cultivated the ability we all had as children to communicate with everything on this earth, most of us have forgotten how or been told it isn't possible. I have a few such special people in my life and get great comfort when I am struggling with things like physical death. I hope to someday un-clutter my mind and reconnect with that part of myself. Anyone can do it, if you are interested in finding out more, there are several animals communication groups, I belong to 3 of them. One is a practice group the other 2 more social type groups. It is a fun and learning experience. I use to practiced a year or so ago but lifes craziness has made it impossible right now, I really need to make it a priority, just haven't. Maybe that will be my goal for this year!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brillo and Desmond Are Anemic
The hemobartonella test is very, very hard to get a positive result on, it has to be taken at the precise moment the bugs are acting up or it will give a negative result. I know more than one cat that was positive but tested negative 4 or 5 times before they finally caught it. Those cats that were put on doxy did well, those that weren't some died. I will always put a cat that is anemic for an unknown reason on doxy to be on the safe side, especially a positive cat ... just my opinion but to me it isn't worth taking the chance of losing my furkid to something that is treatable. How is haemobartonellosis diagnosed? Sometimes the organism can be seen inside cells on a blood smear. To find them, a small drop of blood is spread over a microscope slide, stained and examined under the microscope. The number of organisms in the bloodstream can fluctuate dramatically. *There can be many observed in one sample, and a sample taken two hours later may reveal none.* A polymerase chain reaction (PCR) blood test to detect this hemotropic mycoplasma is available. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2102aid=293 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Brillo and Desmond Are Anemic
Has both of them been put on prenisolone and doxocycline? When my Bailey was anemic he was put on epogen and his anemia resolved, his bone marrow aspirate showed the virus in his bone marrow but the epogen brought his HCT from a low of 15% to 40% in about 6 weeks. Most vets are scared to death to use it so don't be surprised if you get resistance ... I am almost afraid and tired of repeating my success with it because so many vets seem terrified of the idea of using it and I see cat after cat die because of it. But I promised Bailey I would, and in his honor I will continue to try to save every furkid I can with his story so I plug on if it doesn't work the results are the same, your furkid will die, if it does work ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Now I have to say that is odd, they should have called you when it happened, right away when it happened. When I lost my Buddie immediately after surgery. My vet called to tell me she came through surgery just fine but a few minutes later she called me back and told me she had arrested in recovery. They tried saving her but couldn't. With my sisters cat they called while she was on the table to let you us know what happened and kept her alive until we could get there and see exactly how bad it was. They kept her alive for a while to give my sister time to come to grips with what had happened and to make sure she wasn't going to pull out of it. She never showed any signs of improvement and that was when my sister decided to let her go. I never got to say goodbye. I handed her over and left her with strangers and left her to die without me. I don't know how long she'd been dead before the vet bothered calling - I left as soon as I got word it only takes 15 minutes to get there, and she was stone cold and stiff as a board. This will haunt me for the rest of my life. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
PS. I had the same guilt with Buddie, but she was so sick I knew there was a good chance she wouldn't pull through, I spent the night before telling her if she was ready to leave it was OK, it was her decision. I did ask her to let me know she was OK if she did leave ... and she did. Three days after she passed I got up to feed the cats for the last time before I went to bed, hubby was already sound asleep. Went in the kitchen, got the food bowls ready put them on the floor and headed back to bed. To my surprise the exercise room light was on, it was not on when I got up and went in the kitchen. This was Buddies favorite room, she wasn't very social with the other cats and spent a lot of time in there to be alone. I know she turned that light on to let me know she was OK ... I thanked her and went to bed with a smile on my face. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
I agree, talk to her, Bridget will answer you in the best way she can. My Mom and Dad come around on occasion, Dad with the smell of cigarette smoke, he loved his ciggies and Mom with the smell of fried chicken, she came everyday for a month before Bailey passed, I didn't put it together until after he passed, the smell immediately stopped, but for his last month I smelled it every single day and commented more than once that someone sure liked fried chicken. I was assuming it was coming from outside. It was Mom, she came to take Bailey home for me. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, but what exactly is she basing her information that FeLV+'s have such a bad experience with using epogen, because I have not heard of any studies that have been done on this to bear that out and if there is one I would like the reference so I can look into it and give it to my vet. Amy never be afraid to say anything on this list, all I am saying is that in my experience your vets information is incorrect about the use of epogen. Both from other people experiences that I know of that have FeLV+'s and from my vets experiences. And there isn't a lot of information out there because most vets won't even try it and I am not lying when I say most vets are terrified of epogen in general and have no idea how to use it because in vet school they are taught that 30% or better of cats using it will have an adverse reaction to it. That is old information and most vets who actually use it on a regular basis, mostly on CRF cats say that number is closer to 10% or less and only after 5 months or longer of use. And everyone here knows I have no love for Cornell, their information about FeLV had always been outdated and in my opinion inaccurate. And years ago when most vets knew little to nothing about FeLV, their outdated information caused many positive, healthy cats their lives since they were then the only veterinary site with the most info out there about FeLV+, no matter it was inaccurate. I see they have updated their info, still not perfect in my eyes but much better than it was years ago when people were freaking out about it: This statement however is contradictory: *Secondary viremia*, a later stage characterized by persistent infection of the bone marrow and other tissue. If FeLV infection progresses to this stage it has passed a point of no return: the overwhelming majority of cats with secondary viremia will be infected for the remainder of their lives. It says it is to the point of no return but *ONLY the majority of cats* will remain infected for the remainder of their lives, doesn't add up, if it is to the point of no return then *ALL of those cats* would be infected the remainder of their lives. Guess they got to cover their butts in case a cat does fight off secondary viremia. I have heard of one cat that did but have no proof so can't say it has or hasn't happened. *This is on their website:* There is no scientific evidence that alternative, immunomodulator, or antiviral medications have any positive benefits on the health or longevity of healthy infected cats. *Why is that?* In my opinion because they won't spend the money to do those tests, but if you talk with many people using one or another of these treatments most are having good results, so since there isn't scientific evidence because no studies have been done, well I personally will go with people with positives that have experience using these types of treatments, but if you tell anyone at Cornell that, I'm pretty sure they will poo poo it and tell you it is a waste of your time and money. *And this is my way of thinking and only my opinion.* If my furkid has something that IS going to kill them if I do nothing, *or if what I am trying isn't working*, but there is something I can try that may work ... I am going to try it. If the options are for sure death and possible life, I'm going for the possible life, the out come is going to be the same if it doesn't work, but if there is a 1% chance it may work, I'm going for that 1% chance. And thank god my vet knows me well enough to know that. Now if she strongly feels that what I want to do is going to hurt my furkid she will argue with me but if she can't convince me, she knows I will go somewhere else to find a vet that will work with me. If she can convince me then I won't do it. My vet isn't perfect and she has made mistakes and there have been times when I didn't go with my gut and to be honest one of those times was when I felt Bailey had pancreatitis because of how he was acting when I fed him. I asked my vet if it were possible and she said no she didn't think so because his gloucose and amylese didn't bear that out, well it doesn't always affect those values and in Baileys case my NOT insisting on a specific pancreatitis test probably cost him his life, because he died from pancreatic cancer, so he probably did have pancreatitis and left untreated it turned into cancer, and if that isn't the case that not treating it would have kept it from turning into cancer, if the cancer was already there at the very least doing the pancreatitis test would almost certainly have found the cancer and we could have treated it. So I am sorry if I am coming off so strongly but if I can save one life because of the mistakes I made with Bailey it is worth it to me. No vet is right 100% of the time and anyone who thinks they are is asking for trouble, my vet was wrong
Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
Here is some good info on anemia, it is from the CRF site but it explains some of the blood work results of an anemic cat and what they mean and anemia is anemia: http://www.felinecrf.org/anaemia.htm#reticulocytes -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Yes it does: But it was odd this morning when I dropped her off - he said You know, this can stress out a cat with leukemia bring on symptoms. I'm just letting you know so you don't blame me if something happens. Well, yeah, we all know you need to keep these cats away from stress. How many cats have I had spayed or neutered with FeLV they've been OK? Does this sound suspicious or what? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Overdosing with anesthesia could easily be considered an accident. I'm so sorry this happened, whatever the reason it certainly wasn't in any way your fault and being human we are raised to respect people in authority and wouldn't think a professional would purposely do harm to someone in their charge ... but it happens and as unsavory as it may be it is entirely possible this vet is a bad egg. Being in his position of power he probably isn't too worried anyone is going to come after him. I've read enough horror stories about vets who have taken an oath to do no harm to our pets being monsters, it is *rare* but it does happen. Just out of curiosity is there any way to find out how many other positives he has had in his care have passed if there are any? It may be entirely that her body just couldn't handle the procedure, the stress, anesthesia or some other part of it, but I would absolutely be suspicious knowing this vet thinks all FeLV+ cats should be euthanized and then saying what he said about things possibly going wrong and then my furkid just happens to die. Sorry, sounds fishy to me. There probably isn't anything that can be done except never take another positive cat to this vet and if it were me, I wouldn't ever take any cat to him for anything again. If something was done you can rest assured it wasn't your fault in any way and Bridget is safe and OK where she is and if this vet did do something wrong, he will pay whether here or beyond, he will answer for all the things he did that were wrong and/or evil. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot
Wow, I paid 65.00 for a 1ml vial, it was a 2000IU and Fred was getting 0.15 also, there was enough in the 1ml vial for 8 or 9 shots. What size is your vial, I also bought mine at Walgreens in Washington state. It was only $50.00 dollars for the same size and dosage at the Fred Meyer pharmacy. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Casper Epogen shot
PS. Why is he getting it daily the standard dosing is 0.15ml (more or less depending on weight), 3 times a week? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Well, if he did another positive and he came through OK, then I would say it probably was just something that she physically wasn't able to handle ... maybe there was an underlying heart issue or some other issue that was unknown. My sisters cat had something very similar happen, she was healthy as far as anyone knew but her cyst ruptured during surgery and she went into cardiac arrest and didn't get oxygen for too long, she was alive but her brain function was gone. It killed my sister to give the OK for them to let her go, it was her first furkid and she was only 6 years old going in for a pretty much routine surgery. It seems Bridget knew it was her time as was trying to let you know, but you are seeing it as guilt in not stopping something that was probably suppose to happen the way it did, she must have been done teaching and learning what she needed to here and was ready to go back to spirit. I know it doesn't sound like I believe in these things most of the time, I do but I still also fight fiercely for every second of life here which makes it very hard to come to terms with death being a continuation of life in our other form, quite a war waging in me sometimes. But please know, your premonition wasn't to make you feel like there was something you could do about what was probably meant to be, if she hadn't had the surgery and it was her time she would have passed a different way, sometimes there isn't anything we can do to stop life here from ending ... but it only ends in the physical for us left here which makes it seem so final when in reality we go on without limitations once we leave these physical bodies. Bridget doesn't want you to feel anything but the love she still has for you and to know she is fine and no longer limited by the restrictions our physical lives put on us. I hope she will visit you in a dream or some other way that will make it clear to you it is her and you can get comfort from that. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] need some feedback on testing....
If it is the difference between life and death, absolutely do the IFA test. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vaccination questions
I have asked my vet for a pass on vaccinations, my youngest is 8 yrs old and they have had enough vaccinations to be good for life. I also have several with health issues. She has OK'd it and so far no problems. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stanley and Muscular Atrophy
hi Diane, It would depend on what his potassium level is. When Fred had muscle wasting it was because of his low potassium, he was CRF and that is a known cause of low potassium. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stanley and Muscular Atrophy
What is his potassium level? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Los Angeles: Trying to save Tortie FELV+ kitten - SCARED ADORABLE
Looks like she has been taken in by a local rescue. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sweet dreams little brother
Jason, Sorry for your loss of little Mozart ... I have added him to the CLS, sleep soft Mozart. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Li Won has passed on
Hi Gloria, So sad, 23 what a nice long life she had, she is with her other momma now and so grateful for the care you gave her these last few years. I have added her to the CLS ... sleep soft little Li Won. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away
Hi Jim, I'm so sorry to hear about your Lyttle Guy, sounds like he had some of the same problems Fred had at the end. Once seizures start it really complicates things with heart problem kitties. He is with you always in your heart and lives on in your memories. He will let you know in his own special way that he is OK and close by. Take care of yourself. We have sure had our share of losses lately ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thurber Please add to the CLS :(
Sorry wrong group :( -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thurber Please add to the CLS :(
This one here looks pretty good and has lots of sisal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=350307659347 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed
Hi Michael, I would like to also put a widget up that I have you can see it here, it is a new program I had a programmer make for me, I figure a picture might help pull at the heart strings a bit, MC you can out this on your list too if you want. You can see it here: http://myfundit.com/index.html Yours is the first one on the page, I am assuming the secondchanceme...@yahoo.com is you Pay Pal email, it needs to link to your PP email so the money goes into your account. If your PP address is something else let me know so I can fix it. If you have a picture you'd like to use send it to me, I'm using one of mine so there is something there. Anyone with a website that would like to put it up can click the PLUS and copy and paste it. It updates in real time when someone makes a Pay pal donation to you. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed
OK, well it appears my real time isn't updating in real time but the money is going to Michael, would you verify that Michael. My programmer is looking at it to see what the problem is. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Pleural Effusion
hi Jim, Is he on any lasix or spirnolactone, he should be on one or both? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Pleural Effusion
Hi Jim, Fred's fluid build up was in his lungs I think pleural effusion is outside of the lungs. Fred's was congestive heart failure. He was on lasix alone at first and it didn't seem to be helping so I added the spirnolactone, that made all the difference almost immediately. Once I got him stable the spirnolactone was enough and I gave him fluids every 4 to 6 hours dividing his 150 total, spirnolactone is much easier on the kidneys. That worked for a while but then he started having the seizures and it was all down hill from there. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge list - SnuggleBunny and Calico
Hi Gloria, Sorry for all your losses, boy you've had it rough. I have added all your guys to the CLS. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Christian Please add to the CLS :(
Hi Sherry, Sorry to hear SID's has lost another baby, I have added Christian to the CLS. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] IMPORTANT - Anesthesia Recall - Ketemine
This is important there is a recall on Ketamine Hydrochloride Injection Anesthesia: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm195118.htm -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Eating litter is usually a sign of anemia, was he checked for that? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] WBC/RBC/platelet count decreasing
Well Fred started having seizures 3 hours after his vet visit, we're not sure what is causing those but he is on phenobarbitol and those so far are controlled. He is eating like a little piggy and drinking. It takes about 2 weeks for them to get used to the effects of the phenobarbitol so he is pretty much out of it most of the day. His legs aren't working right now even though he does try to get up and can walk a step or 2 before he loses his balance. The blood work results show that there is possibly cancer, if so I would guess a brain tumor but the vet said it also could be from a severe inner ear infection, which he does have an inner ear infection, he was on drops only so I asked for the pills too, asked a week ago when we diagnosed him but the vet I saw then said it wasn't that bad and he didn't need them, they were obviously wrong and it has probably gotten worse again. I'm going to tell my vet I want to keep him on the baytril for wahtever time he has left, this is the 5th time an infection has come back because the vet wouldn't listen to me. He had an infection years ago that he kept getting back because they wouldn't leave him on the antibiotics longer like I requested. Fred has a really bad time clearing infections and they really kick his butt so I have to be more forceful about that. I know someone who's cat was on baytril for 8 years and she did fine. Would appreciate prayers for Fred to get over this latest hurdle ... and yes I have told him if he is ready to go I am fine with that, he has my blessing, but he keeps hanging on, he is one tough cookie!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] WBC/RBC/platelet count decreasing
Hi Amy, Not sure if I told you that Bailey my + had non-rengerative anemia and epogen got his HCT up. He started at 3 shots a week that you would be able to do at home, Fred is currently getting this for his non-regenerative anemia and in 4 weeks has gone from HCT 16% to 26%, that's about the only thing that is going right at this time, everything else is going to h*ll in a hand basket!! Baliey HCT went from 15% to 40 percent on about 6 or so weeks and remained normal in the mid 30's until he passed from pancreatic cancer. He was on it over 5 months. He would have died in a few weeks had not started it, with those odds I didn't see any reason not to. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Cliff
Please do not give garlic or onions to kitties, it can cause Heinz body anemia and it is deadly: http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/ask-the-expert/ask-the-expert-pet-nutrition/how-bad-is-garlic-for-cats.html http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/humanfood.htm http://www.care2.com/greenliving/cats-garlic-and-onions.html# Some think a tiny amount of garlic is OK, but why take a chance, better safe than sorry as far as I am concerned. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] WBC/RBC/platelet count decreasing
Took Fred in today because he is getting weaker and weaker, his HCT is up to 27.5, so still going up, I think he has a massive infection somewhere, he does have an ear infection and is on ear drops for that but I think he has a urinary tract infection too. Will have the results tomorrow. If you do at some point decide to go with the epogen, remember it can take up to three weeks or longer to start the HCT going up so don't wait until it get too low. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] WBC/RBC/platelet count decreasing
Bailey was on epogen with his non regenerative anemia and it did bring his HCT back to normal, my Fred currently is on epogen, he is not positive but has non regenerative anemia because of CRF (chronic renal failure), his HCt is slowly coming back up. I prefer Nutrived to Pet Tinic because it has folic acid in it, vit b, iron and folic acid are needed to build new blood cells. As far as I know Pet Tinic doesn't have folic acid. Bailey was positive. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help
Gloria, didn't you have some luck with your kitties and vitamin c when they had upper respiratory's. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
It sounds like she has tummy acid, Fred has been doing this lately and he will not eat when he feels like this. He gets a 1/4 of a pepcid AC everyday for now, once his weight is up and his tummy feels better I will stop it if that every happens. Make sure it is pepcid AC and not extra strength. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Problems - Please Help
When my Frankie got an upper respiratory, he had it for a long time. How long has Nibbler been on the antibiotic? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Maggie's not acting normal, advice is appreciated
My Bailey didn't do well on the interferon either, he was lethargic and didn't eat well, he also was on the 7 on, 7 off, I finally stopped using it and he was fine for years until he passed from pancreatic cancer. Bailey was positive at 5 months of age when he found me, so pretty young too. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary, Yep, am on both CRF lists ... He's been getting fluids for about 3 1/2 years now, gets binders, potassium, heart meds and all kinds of other goodies. He has been doing fairly well until the last 4 or 5 months, he has lost all muscle mass in both back legs and is starting to really lose weight. He is 18 1/2 and sleeps a lot but I guess at that age he as earned it!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary, Fred's anemia is not FeLV related, he is negative, would the acemannan still be something to consider if the anemia is from insufficient renal function vs FeLV+ status? He is non regenerative anemia because of the renal insufficiency. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Thanks MC, I wrote to Hideyo and I think she wrote back will have to double check, I ended up getting the epogen because I needed to get Fred started on something right away and they could get that in 1 day. He gets his second shot tomorrow. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary, I tried the test with a used syringe and Fred's fur wasn't anywhere near that wet yesterday so I think I figured out what happened. When I tented and started giving him the shot, when he felt the epo going in he started to move and I pushed against him harder to keep him from pulling the syringe out so I think at that point the syringe may have gone in farther and out the other side ... but I think it was towards the end of the shot so didn't lose too much. I am going to give him a little extra tomorrow though, his HCT has been slowly dropping over 4 or 5 years, he was at 28% when we first diagnosed him hyper-t CRF 4 years ago and I know he was CRF a good year before that, someone had been peeing a lot for a while but I couldn't pin point who. over the last year his HCT was between 24% and 20% but since a month ago it went to 16%. My vet checked for bleeding there isn't any so it is because of his CRF. We will check him again in 2 weeks after starting the epo. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Hi James, Glad to hear LG is feeling better, I will pray he continues to improve and does well. Just curious they did check him for heart disease right? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry for your loss Sherry, I have added Mystique to the candle light service. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Hi James, It sounds like Mediastinal (thymic) large B cell lymphoma, it usually hits younger cats and is very aggressive. Here on our Feline Lymphoma website are some case studies on this type of lymphoma, it is one of those that usually responds well to chemo and has a good survival rate. But it is very aggressive and treatment needs to be started yesterday if that is what it turns out to be. Look at the case studies under Mediastinal Lymphoma [chest cavity], Zoe Belle didn't do as well as the others but most did pretty good and got years of remission. http://felinelymphoma.org/cases.html This is a very knowledgeable and supportive list, I am on it for years when my Buddie was diagnosed with liver cancer. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/ I'm really sorry to hear this devastating news about LG. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Sally, Did your cat specifically have mediastinal lymphoma, if so is this a new treatment, I have never heard of this treatment on the feline lymphoma list I am on??// -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary, I got the 1ml 2000 IU and Fred weighs 7lb 2oz. I am using a insulin syringe that is 1/2 cc and was told to give Fred .15 or on the 15 line on the syringe. Does that sound right to you, his HCT was 16% on Tuesday, he got his first shot today and his fur felt wet after, not much but a bit, I hope I didn't miss and he didn't really get it. I was afraid to do more but he is so weak if I did miss I am really afraid he won't make it to Sunday when I give him the next dose. Any suggestions. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
