Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread Craig Ringer
On 03/05/2012 09:35 PM, mehdi houshmand wrote: Because of the overwhelming popularity of this idea, I've created a link on the Wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/GoogleSummerOfCode2012) for the GSoC proposals. You note font library extraction as a possibility there. I'd like to note

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread Craig Ringer
On 03/05/2012 09:35 PM, mehdi houshmand wrote: Because of the overwhelming popularity of this idea, I've created a link on the Wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/GoogleSummerOfCode2012) for the GSoC proposals. Things that come to mind for me: - PDFBox backend (probably ideal for GSoC

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread Glenn Adams
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Chris Bowditch wrote: > On 05/03/2012 16:18, mehdi houshmand wrote: > >> I agree that there may be some good project ideas in the bug list, but I >> don't think the one Alex highlighted is a good one. Changing the layout >> algorithm is a major undertaking, probably

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Bowditch
On 05/03/2012 16:18, mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Alex/Glenn, Hi guys, I agree that there may be some good project ideas in the bug list, but I don't think the one Alex highlighted is a good one. Changing the layout algorithm is a major undertaking, probably several man years :) We need to fin

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread mehdi houshmand
Hi Alex/Glenn, Yeah that's a fair point, I think this may be a textbook case of Freudian projection, so my apologies if those weren't your intentions Glenn. The problem is, I don't have a great deal of experience in the Layout Engine and I really have no grounds to put a proposal together. I've p

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread Alexios Giotis
I don't think that Glenn's idea is that bad. FOP's open bugzilla issues are not only bugs, they also show what are the areas that FOP needs to be improved. If we start from the beginning, then | 1063|New|Nor|2001-03-21|fop does not handle large fo files is a real, very interesting issue and

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread mehdi houshmand
Haha, if only it were that simple... The projects have to be interesting and fulfilling and at least bordering on fun. They also have to be an opportunity to learn and encourage opensource development. There's little fun to be had fixing bugs hidden in the depths of FOPs fairly difficult to delve-i

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread Glenn Adams
I would suggest whittling down the fop bug list, starting from the beginning. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:35 AM, mehdi houshmand wrote: > Because of the overwhelming popularity of this idea, I've created a > link on the Wiki > (http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/GoogleSummerOfCode2012) for > th

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-05 Thread mehdi houshmand
Because of the overwhelming popularity of this idea, I've created a link on the Wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/GoogleSummerOfCode2012) for the GSoC proposals. On a serious note, this is literally work for free. Google pays the bills and I'm happy to mentor any applicants and do the a

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-01 Thread mehdi houshmand
Hi Glenn, The GSoC doesn't relate directly to the ASF or FOP directly, however, putting a few FOP projects as proposals would be a good way to get some new interest into the project. I think it would be good for us as we benefit from any work done, and it helps whomever does the work learn the var

Re: Google Summer of Code

2012-03-01 Thread Glenn Adams
could you provide a link to the "Google Summer of Code Project"? how does it relate to ASF and FOP activities? On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:50 AM, mehdi houshmand wrote: > Hi, > > We're thinking of submitting a proposal or two to the Google Summer of > Code project and wanted to get some input from

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-04-06 Thread Helder Magalhães
Hi everyone, >> Could anyone >> help understanding what is that exactly? I've crawled through the >> available JIRA projects and saw none related with XML Graphics (Batik, >> FOP, XML Graphics Commons)... (Also, if this is a lengthy process I'd >> hint towards maybe triggering the process now so

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-04-06 Thread Helder Magalhães
Hi everyone, >> If I understand correctly, you can register your proposed projects in >> JIRA, see the above web page. Oops, I missed that sentence; today, while revisiting this thread I noticed that, according to the timeline [1], the proposals will need to be postponed for next year. :-| The

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-04-06 Thread Simon Pepping
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:34:45PM +0100, Helder Magalhães wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Somehow related, in the guide to being a mentor, it's stated in the > procedure that one should "Add an issue to JIRA (if your project > doesn't use JIRA contact d...@community.apache.org)" [2]. Could anyone > hel

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-24 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Simon, Simon Pepping wrote: > Thanks to Adrian and Vincent who want to be mentor. We also need some > ideas for projects. > > 1. Our releases require too much work, which has resulted in no > release for much too long a time. How can the work related to a > release be minimized? Can we develop

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-22 Thread Simon Pepping
Thanks to Adrian and Vincent who want to be mentor. We also need some ideas for projects. 1. Our releases require too much work, which has resulted in no release for much too long a time. How can the work related to a release be minimized? Can we develop tools to automate much of the work? 2. Imp

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-16 Thread Simon Pepping
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:58:07AM +0100, Simon Pepping wrote: > > If I understand correctly, you can register your proposed projects in > JIRA, see the above web page. Then you must advertise your projects so > as to attract students; that part is not clear to me. > After some more reading of th

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-16 Thread Simon Pepping
We have two committers who are willing to be a mentor, and a few project ideas for Batik. The following is the complete message (which was only sent to the PMCs): --- Forwarded message --- It is time for your project to start preparing for GSoC if you have not already done so. T

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-16 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Simon Pepping wrote: > Ross Gardler of ASF announced that it is time for our projects to > start preparing for Google Summer of Code (GSoC). Do we have ideas for > GSoC projects? Are committers willing to be a mentor? If any student comes up with a good idea of project in the FOP area, I’d be happ

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-15 Thread Helder Magalhães
Hi everyone, > Do we have ideas for GSoC projects? Actually I have a couple ideas, in the scope of Batik: 1. Online SVG Rasterization Service Create an online service for SVG rasterization, as a valuable way to allow users to benefit from SVG while keeping up with the possibility of using raste

Re: Google Summer of Code: Bring out your projects

2010-03-12 Thread Adrian Cumiskey
Hi Simon, My involvement with FOP these days is a little minimal due to other commitments, but in principle I would be open to the idea of acting as a mentor to a GSoC student. Adrian. On 12 March 2010 12:07, Simon Pepping wrote: > Ross Gardler of ASF announced that it is time for our projects

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-30 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Simon, Simon Pepping a écrit : I have one small comment on your decomposition of the line breaking algorithm: * defining a somewhat arbitrary formula used to compute the demerit of each break, and which is to be minimized; I find the above second item in this list a bit misplaced. It

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-29 Thread Simon Pepping
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 10:19:27AM +0200, Vincent Hennebert wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Simon Pepping a écrit : > As far as I'm concerned, I'm planning to put my thoughts about the > project on a dedicated Wiki page. I think that just providing high-level > comments on them would already be of great he

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-29 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 28.05.2006 20:29:24 Simon Pepping wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 09:47:03PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > Congratulations to both of you! Both projects got a score of 10 which is > > the fourth highest score. The ASF got a total of 27 projects. There were > > other ASF members who voted f

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-29 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Simon, Simon Pepping a écrit : I have winters of code and summers of less code. That diminishes my ability to provide assistance. What kind of work and responsibilities would assistance include? What would be the time constraints, that is, how fast needs a review be done or a question be ans

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-28 Thread Simon Pepping
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 09:47:03PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Congratulations to both of you! Both projects got a score of 10 which is > the fourth highest score. The ASF got a total of 27 projects. There were > other ASF members who voted for the acceptance of the two FOP proposals. > That's

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-24 Thread Web Maestro Clay
That's great news for you both and for FOP! Congratulations... I'll be monitoring the list and if there's anything I can do, I'll do my best to be responsive. Clay On May 24, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Vincent Hennebert wrote: Same for me! We will perhaps have to clone Jeremias. I'm glad to at las

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-24 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Congratulations to both of you! Both projects got a score of 10 which is the fourth highest score. The ASF got a total of 27 projects. There were other ASF members who voted for the acceptance of the two FOP proposals. That's very satisfying and motivates me a lot. I know this will require quite a

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-24 Thread Christian Geisert
Vincent Hennebert schrieb: > Same for me! We will perhaps have to clone Jeremias. Wohoo! That's really great news (for both of you and for FOP) Christian

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-24 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Same for me! We will perhaps have to clone Jeremias. I'm glad to at last have the possibility to work full-time on Fop. I hope I will perform good work. Vincent Patrick Paul a écrit : Hello everyone, Great news for me today, I got accepted for the Google Summer of Code to work on the auto t

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-24 Thread Patrick Paul
Hello everyone, Great news for me today, I got accepted for the Google Summer of Code to work on the auto table layout. Thank you very much Jeremias for taking the time to apply as a mentor and rank our projects. Patrick Jeremias Maerki wrote: Got it and rated it. All green! :-) On 07.0

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-07 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Got it and rated it. All green! :-) On 07.05.2006 22:24:26 Vincent Hennebert wrote: > Ok, this should have worked this time. Don't know what happened. > > Vincent > > > Jeremias Maerki a écrit : > > Vincent, I'm afraid I don't see your application, either. You could > > simply try again or cont

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-07 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Ok, this should have worked this time. Don't know what happened. Vincent Jeremias Maerki a écrit : Vincent, I'm afraid I don't see your application, either. You could simply try again or contact the GSoC support. On 07.05.2006 19:12:26 Vincent Hennebert wrote: Hi Jeremias, Normally my appl

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-07 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Vincent, I'm afraid I don't see your application, either. You could simply try again or contact the GSoC support. On 07.05.2006 19:12:26 Vincent Hennebert wrote: > Hi Jeremias, > > Normally my application should have been sent. However I don't see it on > my home page so I wonder if it has to be

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-07 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Jeremias, Normally my application should have been sent. However I don't see it on my home page so I wonder if it has to be reviewed first or if the submit has failed. The way the webapp works isn't clear to me yet. Do you see my application? Vincent Jeremias Maerki a écrit : Hi Patrick,

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-05 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 05.05.2006 22:44:36 Patrick Paul wrote: > This is great news :-) > > I hope that our score(s) will stay high. Do you have your say in the > score that the projects get ? Yes, every registered mentor for the ASF can rate every ASF-related proposal. > Have a nice week-end, You, too. > Patri

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-05 Thread Patrick Paul
This is great news :-) I hope that our score(s) will stay high. Do you have your say in the score that the projects get ? Have a nice week-end, Patrick Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Patrick, green lights everywhere. I've already ranked it and applied for the mentor position. It turns out that

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-05 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hi Patrick, green lights everywhere. I've already ranked it and applied for the mentor position. It turns out that the Wiki in the ASF this time only was about collecting ideas for projects (unlike last year). The real project proposals are those on the Google site. At this moment, only 7 entries

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-05 Thread Patrick Paul
Hi Jeremias, Any news from GSoC ? Were you able to see my application and rank it ? How are things going within the ASF ? Patrick Jeremias Maerki wrote: It looks like you two need to sign up for the GSoC directly on the website and enter your application there based on the info on the ASF W

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-03 Thread Patrick Paul
Hi Jeremias, I have submitted an application. Indeed all this is unclear, I never realized mentors also had to signup. But I'm sure that with your reputation there won't be any problems ;-) In my application I mainly copied the content of the Wiki page. Should you have any comments or sugges

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-05-03 Thread Jeremias Maerki
It looks like you two need to sign up for the GSoC directly on the website and enter your application there based on the info on the ASF Wiki. This needs to be completed until May 8. After that the applications will be rated by the mentors. To me this was all a bit confusing despite the extensive F

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-28 Thread Patrick Paul
Same here, I've added an entry for auto table layout, right after Vincents. Patrick Vincent Hennebert wrote: Ok, I've added an entry for floats implementation. I'll be off-line from tomorrow until the 6th of may. Just hoping no particular problem will occur during my absence. Anyway, if I don

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-28 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Ok, I've added an entry for floats implementation. I'll be off-line from tomorrow until the 6th of may. Just hoping no particular problem will occur during my absence. Anyway, if I don't answer mails that's just normal. Vincent Jeremias Maerki a écrit : Yes, please add entries for the two p

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Yes, please add entries for the two projects. That Wiki page is the first station. I'm not sure, yet, who exactly will transfer the proposals to Google (can't remember from last year, either), but the first step is to identify the projects inside the ASF. I'll need to read through the whole mentori

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-27 Thread Patrick Paul
Jeremias, Do you think we should have our two projects posted on the Apache Wiki ? http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2006 Is it better to go through that page, or will our proposals be forwarded directly to you anyway ? Thanks, Patrick Jeremias Maerki wrote: I don't see why you

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-24 Thread Patrick Paul
Thank you Jeremias for your amendements. Patrick Jeremias Maerki wrote: Thanks, Vincent and Patrick, for writing down your proposals. Patrick's is pretty clear. I've only amended it a little. I hope it won't be a problem that the task cannot be well estimated, yet. Vincent, a comment on your

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-24 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 24.04.2006 20:49:54 Vincent Hennebert wrote: > Hi Jeremias, > > Thanks for your review! > > > Vincent, a comment on yours: For before-floats, you refer to best-fit > > and first-fit approaches. I'm not sure if it's really relevant here. If > > I'm not mistaken before-floats are pretty similar

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-24 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi Jeremias, Thanks for your review! Vincent, a comment on yours: For before-floats, you refer to best-fit and first-fit approaches. I'm not sure if it's really relevant here. If I'm not mistaken before-floats are pretty similar to footnotes which means you can probably take a lot from there. I

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-24 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Thanks, Vincent and Patrick, for writing down your proposals. Patrick's is pretty clear. I've only amended it a little. I hope it won't be a problem that the task cannot be well estimated, yet. Vincent, a comment on yours: For before-floats, you refer to best-fit and first-fit approaches. I'm not

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-23 Thread Patrick Paul
That's great thank you. I added my own page. It's only a start for now. I took some presentation ideas from you, I hope you don't mind too much. I won't mind if you do the same in the future. Cheers, Patrick Vincent Hennebert wrote: Hi, I'm thinking about setting up a page on the FOP-wik

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-23 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi, I'm thinking about setting up a page on the FOP-wiki where I would put up the goals for my proposal. That way I could give the link when submitting my application. Nice idea, indeed. I've taken the liberty of implementing it and created a new Wiki page for the SoC, linked from the Develop

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Before-floats are similar to footnotes, so yes, that part will be (a lot) simpler. I didn't do much thinking about side-float so it's difficicult for me to do an estimate. Anyway, your proposal sounds good. On 20.04.2006 00:30:52 Vincent Hennebert wrote: > Jeremias Maerki a écrit : > > I don't see

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 19.04.2006 22:57:13 Patrick Paul wrote: > Jeremias, > > I think this is most reasonable. In any case I whish to contribute as > mush as possible. > > I'm thinking about setting up a page on the FOP-wiki where I would put > up the goals for my proposal. That way I could give the link when >

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Jeremias Maerki a écrit : I don't see why you couldn't also apply for a slot. Having floats would be cool (but not simple). I'm not sure about your work on FOrayFont. I think the projects have to be tied to one of the organizations listed by Google. Only the client part in FOP would be part of th

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick Paul
Jeremias, I think this is most reasonable. In any case I whish to contribute as mush as possible. I'm thinking about setting up a page on the FOP-wiki where I would put up the goals for my proposal. That way I could give the link when submitting my application. Also, I will be in Europe in

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick Paul
I did make sure I am eligible for the Google SoC, and I will gladly give you all the details you want or need if you request them. As far as I know there are no restrictions to the number of slots a project can get, although this year it seams much more people are interested in the Google Summ

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I don't see why you couldn't also apply for a slot. Having floats would be cool (but not simple). I'm not sure about your work on FOrayFont. I think the projects have to be tied to one of the organizations listed by Google. Only the client part in FOP would be part of that. So floats would be the b

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Patrick, you were faster than me ;-) I would also be interesting in applying to the Summer of Code. It would at last give me the opportunity to work full-time on Fop. Is it conceivable that I also apply, along with Patrick? Although I'm a bit doubtful that my work on FOrayFont could be eligible

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jeremias Maerki
We can set it up so the basic auto table layout is the main goal and then we add some optional additional goals. That should help making sure we don't set the bar unrealistically high if we can't do a good estimate. I'm glad to hear you want to contribute beyond the SoC boundaries. It's good to ge

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick Paul
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Patrick, I have the suspicion that the auto table layout won't fill you up. With the new design, basic support for auto table layout shouldn't be a very big deal. There are some details, however, that could make this a much bigger fish: I did suspect it would not be e

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jess Holle
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Patrick, I have the suspicion that the auto table layout won't fill you up. With the new design, basic support for auto table layout shouldn't be a very big deal. That's good news, but I'd *really* like to have it :-) Unfortunately, I have no time to implement it myself.

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 19.04.2006 10:02:19 Chris Bowditch wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > Hi Jeremias, > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > yes, I've seen that something's going on in that corner. After my > > experience last year, I was a bit hesitant to take another stab, but > > since we've already worked together, I'

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Patrick, I have the suspicion that the auto table layout won't fill you up. With the new design, basic support for auto table layout shouldn't be a very big deal. There are some details, however, that could make this a much bigger fish: Determining ideal column widths based on the inline elment l

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-19 Thread Chris Bowditch
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Jeremias, Hi Patrick, yes, I've seen that something's going on in that corner. After my experience last year, I was a bit hesitant to take another stab, but since we've already worked together, I'd be fine mentoring a little project. There are a lot of things that cou

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-18 Thread Patrick Paul
Hi Jeremias, I am happy to know you have a good impression of me. I do have good Java skills, from personal experience as well as from 4 university courses that involved Java. Implementing the auto table layout sounds like the kind of contribution I would really enjoy bringing to the FOP pro

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-04-18 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hi Patrick, yes, I've seen that something's going on in that corner. After my experience last year, I was a bit hesitant to take another stab, but since we've already worked together, I'd be fine mentoring a little project. There are a lot of things that could be approached: http://wiki.apache.org