Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
dos386 wrote: to me it's still unclear what it is supposed to do and whether it works in (Free-)DOS at all, considering the shots you posted ;- It is a LAN status monitor. It monitors the status of your LAN. ;-0 --

[Freedos-user] mTCP 2010-09-16

2010-09-16 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Hi, Just a quick note - I've posted a new version of mTCP at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP . The biggest change is a bug fix. Some packet drivers refuse to send packets less than 60 bytes in size while many older packet drivers don't care. Technically speaking, a packet less than 60 bytes in

Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2010-09-16

2010-09-17 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Mateusz Viste wrote: I believe you wanted to say frame instead of packet and 64 instead of 60? As far as I know, an IP packet can transport no payload, which gives a 20-bytes packet in result. :-P The limitation is about the minimum size of the frame, which (on ethernet) is of 64 bytes, to

[Freedos-user] mTCP 2010-10-20 Version posted

2010-10-21 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I just posted the latest and greatest code at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP . This version supports IP fragments, which might help with some of the stranger network and gateway setups out there. Another neat feature that I should have done a while ago is command line editing for FTP, including

Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP 2010-10-20 Version posted

2010-10-22 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Geraldo Netto wrote: Hi Michael/All, Would be possible to release it as gpl or any other oss license? (i guess someone already asked for it, but anyway...) Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Geraldo Geraldo, It is in the works. My employer has to review the code and bless it first to protect

[Freedos-user] mTCP 2010-11-27 Version

2010-11-27 Thread Michael B. Brutman
A new version of mTCP is available in the usual place: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP . If you are on an older clone machine and you have not been able to make the larger apps run correctly, then you want this version. The Watcom compiler runtime that I am using now was incorrectly flagging some

Re: [Freedos-user] Watcom and DOS Interrupts

2010-12-21 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 12/21/2010 8:54 AM, dos386 wrote: AFAIK the inline ASM is more painful in WATCOM than in Boreland C or CC386 compilers (I ever tested the latter one only). The are also pre-brewn int86() int386() and maybe more functions to fire the INT instruction but don't ask me how they exactly work.

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on an IBM PCjr?

2011-01-03 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Are there any FreeDOS users using a PCjr? I suspect that except for the weird memory hole that the video hardware creates and the use of NMI for keyboard handling, everything else should work pretty well. But I'd like to hear from somebody who knows. Regards, Mike

[Freedos-user] mTCP Updates (2011-01-02)

2011-01-03 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I have posted the latest and greatest code (again) at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP . This version has some minor bug fixes and a new FTP server application. Besides downloading it from the link above, for a limited time you can get it using FTP directly from the PCjr that I do my testing on.

Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows c:\ as c:/\. So f.i. creating new directories in filezilla doesn't work without manual correction. regards

Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]

2011-01-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman
this problem. Regards, Mike On 1/15/2011 4:33 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: Am 15.01.2011 18:10, schrieb Michael B. Brutman: On 1/15/2011 10:23 AM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: The new ftpsrv app from mTCP works, but at least on my system seems to have problems with showing correct DOS paths. For instance it shows

Re: [Freedos-user] Help: FreeDOS serial support

2011-03-12 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I had seen the original suggestion to use CTTY to redirect the console to a serial port but I had seen the original question on how to redirect DOS to use the serial port and I probably should have chipped in then, but now you know the limitations of CTTY. CTTY to a serial port only works

Re: [Freedos-user] How to enable networking in a FreeDOS client?

2011-03-13 Thread Michael B. Brutman
The mTCP DHCP client writes output to STDOUT and to the MTCPCFG file, which is pointed to by an environment variable. It's a simple matter of programming/scripting to convert the output from either one into something that looks like a static WATTCP configuration. I've tested my DHCP client

Re: [Freedos-user] redirecting mTCP dhcp

2011-03-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I'm not a Lynx user so forgive my ignorance .. but are you using the version supplied by Fred C. Macall? In the past he has been very good about supporting DosLynx for other people. The output from the mTCP DHCP client is probably not in a form directly usable by the WATTCP apps. You are

Re: [Freedos-user] ntool help

2011-03-19 Thread Michael B. Brutman
My advice ... Your problem reports are confusing. You say that something is not working, but it had been working before. If that is the case, what are you changing? If you can't remember what you changed then it is time to slow down and take some notes. The general method for getting a

[Freedos-user] New mTCP release (2011-04-06)

2011-04-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Things have been quiet on the list lately, so I feel compelled to generate some noise ... A new version of mTCP is available at http://www.brutman.com/mTCP . The notable changes are: - IRCjr now supports multiple sessions using virtual windows. - A high contrast screen mode for IRCjr; useful

Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/10/2011 5:20 AM, escape wrote: Vote with your wallet. I'm personally not buying any 4k drives nor for myself nor for companies I'm working for. When you need more than 2Tb of space you always can add another 2Tb drive instead of replacing old drive with bigger (3Tb) one. I think that is

Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/10/2011 12:08 PM, escape wrote: Please get it right. I'm not arguing against support of new technologies. But now it's often when manufacturers trying to disguise cost cutting and marketing rubbish as prominent new technology. Look at monitors as an example. Getting 16:10 aspect along

Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Jack, I love a good rant as much as anybody, but some context is needed. PCI was desperately needed by server class hardware. The ISA bus and the extensions to the ISA bus were failing for several reasons: - Inability to share interrupt lines - Three fragmented standards (ISA, VL, and EISA)

Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-10 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Jack, There are so many inaccuracies and distortions in the reply that you sent, I'm going to assume you are just irritated or in a bad mood. The world moves on ... it doesn't make sense to support existing standards forever. You can have eternal support, or affordable prices, but not both.

Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?

2011-04-11 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/10/2011 11:35 PM, Jack wrote: Also, I do not know you and you do not know me, so WHO ARE YOU to assume I am irritated or in a bad mood?!! Are you in fact a COMMUNIST?? I seem to recall THEY used to operate via trying to beat-DOWN opposition with such unqualified INSULTS as you have

[Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-05-20 Version

2011-05-20 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Come and get it! http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ In this version: - CTCP support in IRCjr (you can do /me now!) - DHCP client enhanced to do multiple retries and give better error messages - Fixed a parsing error in the FTP server - Telnet can now work with servers that do not accurately interpret

[Freedos-user] mTCP source code released

2011-05-27 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I released mTCP as open source today: http://code.google.com/p/mtcp/ Enjoy! Mike -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you

Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP source code released

2011-05-28 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 5/28/2011 3:57 AM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: hi Michael, congratulations on possibly having the first GPL3 DOS program ^^ I seem to recall you needing permission from your employer to do this so thanks go out to them as well. I think that honor was claimed already. I solved the permission

Re: [Freedos-user] Basic networking abilities

2011-06-01 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 6/1/2011 5:30 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: Actually this is not really news but just a wish from my side. The discussion what*s part of FreeDOS 1.1 takes place since some time at freedos-devel. I think the developers decide, while we users should publish our expectations and wishes. So I

Re: [Freedos-user] Licensing issues

2011-06-02 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 6/2/2011 1:42 AM, Willi Wasser wrote: Some developers may not be too happy about the license choice, especially those who would like to grab your code and try to make money from it by making it part of an unfree software. Let's be serious! Is there still a market for any kind of DOS out

Re: [Freedos-user] Thanks

2011-06-22 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 6/22/2011 9:15 AM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: Hi Mike, Thanks for mTCP! I experimented with it yesterday for the first time, and it took me just 15 minutes to get started, in spite of my near complete lack of internet experience (except of course web browsers and email

Re: [Freedos-user] Timezones

2011-06-23 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 6/22/2011 10:49 PM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: Hi Mike, I shouldn't even have called this thing a bug. It is, at most, an issue of semantics. Because the SNTC screen message used the word timezone, I thought it would write UTC+3. I'm probably right on that point (just

Re: [Freedos-user] Thanks

2011-06-23 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 6/22/2011 8:10 PM, Mike Eriksen wrote: If SNTP works anyway like in Linux/UNIX then the computer takes its hardware clock as UTC. If the hardware clock is offset to local time it will be misinterpreted. The poor computer doesn't have any conception of UTC by itself, it only knows its

[Freedos-user] HTGet rewrite for mTCP

2011-07-25 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I have an early version of HTGet ready that I would like to get some more testing on before it becomes part of mTCP. It is available here: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/htget.zip HTGet lets you download a file (or whatever content) from an HTTP server. Just put the URL on the command

Re: [Freedos-user] HTGet rewrite for mTCP

2011-07-25 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/25/2011 6:52 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Thanks for creating this. It means you're pretty close to a basic WGET, and also reminds me why I never liked HTGET: no support for FTP and REDIRECT/MOVED. URL parsing seems fine. Not sure if/how HTGET would respond to HTTPS:// Example URL

Re: [Freedos-user] HTGet rewrite for mTCP

2011-07-25 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/25/2011 7:46 PM, Mike Eriksen wrote: Maybe a stupid idea, but couldn't HTGet just call you FTP client in case of a FTP-URL and let that one handle the download and keep the rest inside HTGet? Mike There is no simple call ... the FTP client is a stand-alone program. In the event of a

Re: [Freedos-user] HTGet rewrite for mTCP

2011-07-26 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/26/2011 12:09 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: snip HTGET supporting common HTTP URL/URI syntax (http://server.domain.extension/path/file.ext) is good enough already. your -userpass seems to indicate no complete syntax is possible, and portnumbers either assumed 80 or not changeable.

[Freedos-user] mTCP 2011-07-29 (with HTGet)

2011-07-29 Thread Michael B. Brutman
The next mTCP is available, with HTGet now included: http://code.google.com/p/mtcp/ There are two versions of the pre-compiled binaries to choose from - standard and -upx. The -upx version binaries are compressed with a program called UPX that decompresses the programs at load time. You will

Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?

2011-08-28 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 8/25/2011 6:20 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM, escapeesc...@front.ru wrote: If you use dos alone and purely on your machine, but nevertheless have some *nix server access you can use rsync client for dos: http://www.2net.co.uk/rsync.html Good, GPL. Interesting,

Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?

2011-08-30 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 8/30/2011 1:46 AM, escape wrote: Great to hear, as mTCP becoming all-you-need-for-dos-networking solution. BTW what do you think about how hard it wiil be to implement DOS-based rsync server, even if feature-limited? I started looking at the rsync client - getting past the compiler and

Re: [Freedos-user] {Spam?} [OT] Problems in the ReactOS community...

2011-09-08 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Alerting us to the clashes in ReactOS serves to remind us of how good we have it here; the group is small and flare-ups are at a minimum. That being said, I don't think it is productive to keep making your case here; it is not a FreeDOS issue and it is not for us to judge who is right or

[Freedos-user] Heads up: DOS ain't dead forum is closing

2011-09-13 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Here is the link to the announcement: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=10488 To me this is a serious problem - losing a piece of the DOS community is bad. Losing the place where a lot of the programmers hang out is even worse. Mike

[Freedos-user] Usefulness of DOS (Was: Re: Heads up: DOS ain't dead forum is closing

2011-09-13 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 9/13/2011 7:10 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Look at it this way, it is extremely hard to support modern hardware in a DOS style environment because DOS allowed application programs to use hardware directly. Jim Hall has said himself that he has limited interest in the GUI end and most

Re: [Freedos-user] Heads up: DOS ain't dead forum is closing

2011-09-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 9/14/2011 6:14 AM, Zbigniew wrote: Most probably you can run on your multicore machine concurrent sessions of DOSBOX (or DOSEMU). modern hardware can emulate older hardware. Now you have a clean means of supporting modern hardware for people using old DOS applications. Want your multi

[Freedos-user] mTCP FTP server change

2011-09-21 Thread Michael B. Brutman
The current DOS path handling in the FTP server is kind of broken - it works for some clients, but not for others. Ironically, the smarter the FTP client the less likely it is to work. The problem has to do with exposing drive letters in the path. Filezilla in particular detects the drive

Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP FTP server change

2011-09-22 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 9/21/2011 9:48 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Why not imitate DJGPP instead? It's probably more familiar to people, e.g. /dev/c/ or /dev/d/ or whatever. Or use both (or not, whatever). ;-) I was given good advice to shorten it, so it might not be in the form of /drive_x/ but something more like just

Re: [Freedos-user] FTP Server testing needed

2011-09-29 Thread Michael B. Brutman
at 08:37 -0500, Michael B. Brutman wrote: I have made a large round of improvements to the FTP server in mTCP and I am looking for a little testing help with it. If you have a few spare moments over the next day or two just try to connect to it and browse the file structure. Using a few

Re: [Freedos-user] FTP Server testing needed

2011-10-01 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 10/1/2011 11:09 AM, Jim Hall wrote: I uploaded my file successfully, but wasn't able to complete my download: Jim, Please try it again - we have a common enemy, and it is my ISP. I've tested this with files as large as 170MB under DOS 5. I'm sure it will work if the connection stays up.

[Freedos-user] mTCP-2011-10-01 is available

2011-10-01 Thread Michael B. Brutman
You've probably seen enough chatter already, so I'll keep this brief. The FTP server testing is done, and I've released a new version of mTCP. Most of the changes were improvements to the FTP server. IRCjr now allows the user to edit their input before sending it, and the default transfer

[Freedos-user] Grr ... (Was: Re: mTCP-2011-10-01 is available

2011-10-04 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Sorry everybody .. the FTP Server was tragically broken under FreeDOS. I have coded a workaround for some bad drive detection code that I put in and uploaded a new release of mTCP. Thanks go to Ulrich, Eric and Ralf for reporting the problem and helping me debug it. (I don't fully

Re: [Freedos-user] Grr ... (Was: Re: mTCP-2011-10-01 is available

2011-10-05 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Excellent, and you are welcome! I am glad it is working this time around - I get embarrassed when I let broken code out. Some questions: For best performance the following should be set in the mTCP config file: MTU 1500 FTPSRV_FILEBUFFER_SIZE 16 FTPSRV_TCPBUFFER_SIZE 16

Re: [Freedos-user] Grr ... (Was: Re: mTCP-2011-10-01 is available

2011-10-05 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 10/5/2011 7:27 PM, Alain Mouette wrote: I had problems with networking in dos for a few users, a short time ago. After a lot of headache, I discovered that those were conections via ADSL that used PPPoE, which has a 28 bytes overhead. So now I use MTU=1472 and I had no more problems

Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: vmsmount, a driver for mounting VMware's shared folders in DOS

2011-10-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 10/13/2011 9:18 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 03:02 PM 10/13/2011, Eduardo Casino wrote: 2011/10/10 Ralf A. Quintfree...@gmx.net: At 01:38 PM 10/9/2011, Eduardo Casino wrote: Would you be so kind of testing it in one of your 286? It should fail with ERROR: Not running on top of VMWARE.

Re: [Freedos-user] Pat Villani on Wikipedia (was: Re: Another IT person passed away...)

2011-10-18 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 10/18/2011 4:50 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Well I finally did it. Took a few hours, and I really didn't know Pat well enough (online) to do him justice, but I sure tried very very hard. Well done. I've noticed that the FreeDOS page at Wikipedia has been updated quite a bit recently too - it was

Re: [Freedos-user] 4th-Grade English.

2011-10-21 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Jack, [1] Not everybody on the list is a native English speaker. [2] You need to calm down. The tone of many of your postings is borderline hostile. -Mike -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Security

2011-10-25 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 10/25/2011 4:25 PM, Koh Choon Lin wrote: Does that means FreeDOS would not be able to support multiplayer network DOS games like Doom, CC, etc.. which MSDOS is able to do so with ethernet? For most of your questions, FreeDOS is equivalent to PC DOS or MS DOS. So however you use those,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos4Kids (and Kids-at-heart)

2011-11-01 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Andrew, You should look for a product called Disk On Module. They are composed of FLASH chips and are designed to be direct replacements for IDE hard drives. Unlike a lot of CF cards that can be used with an CF to IDE adapter but might not support CHS addressing, DOMs are designed as IDE

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos4Kids (and Kids-at-heart)

2011-11-03 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Hi Eric, I don't have a lot of experience myself, but a lot of my fellow hackers who specialize in obsolete machines have reported problems with CF cards. While CF cards are supposed to emulate IDE devices, a lot of the newer ones do not support CHS addressing and do not work in older

Re: [Freedos-user] re-porting Frotz to DOS

2011-12-07 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Rugxulo, I could have looked up Z machine - was just pressed for time this morning. I try not to sound willfully ignorant. ;-0 (Which reminds me - I wanted to do a telnet server that used the Zork virtual machine as a proof of concept. Now I know where to go start when I find the time. Zork

Re: [Freedos-user] data type length problem

2011-12-12 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 12/11/2011 11:55 PM, David Griffith wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 09:36 PM 12/11/2011, Ralf A. Quint wrote: How can I get this code to do the Right Thing? Actually just realized that it's pretty easy, you just need to typecast properly all parts of the makeid macro:

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors

2012-01-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
The list membership is not that large. You can assume that people are busy or don't know the answer. As far as 4K blocks go, I wouldn't worry about it too much. 512 byte sectors will be supported either natively or by emulation in the drive itself for a long time to come - at least 5 to 10

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors

2012-01-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Hi Eric, I expect that in the next few years we'll see very large hard drives and they will continue to support 512 byte sector sizes - that is what the system manufacturers demand. The actual sector size of the drive might be 4KB but the drive will allow the host to choose a 512 byte or 4KB

Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors

2012-01-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Bertho, I spoke from the point of view of the device (the hard drive) - if the hardware that the device is attached to chooses not to expose all of the options that the device supports, there is little the device can do about that. In the case of your external storage somebody made a design

Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286

2012-02-12 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 2/12/2012 11:42 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I took a different approach I downloaded the latest iso, moved the Tandy harddrive to a pc, and installed Now I have the Tandy up on FreeDOS One itch to scratch is when I run dir I get Press any key to continue after every single line Next I

Re: [Freedos-user] howto on a 286

2012-02-13 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 2/13/2012 6:06 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I am connected!!! I used the Intel EtherExpress/16 packet driver from crynwr.com Now, how do I go about getting apps to use dns and is there such a thing as a host table Richard What are you using? If it is mTCP there is a nameserver

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-07 Thread Michael B. Brutman
For hard-core application programming where you need to use a few BIOS and DOS interrupts I like to use C and C++ (carefully). C gives you a tremendous amount of control and flexibility. My two favorite compilers are: Borland Turbo C++ 3.0 for DOS: I did most of my early mTCP work. It

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-08 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/3/2012 1:18 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install freedos to and from menu comes up. Another problem, install freezes at installing command.com. Uge! Are you installing on old hardware or in a virtual machine? Some of us

Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles

2012-04-08 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/8/2012 8:46 PM, Kenny Emond wrote: Hey, I was finnaly able to find a packet driver for my DOS computer (ethernet connection), but for some reason Arachne shows the main page, but when I try to go to a different page, it brings up a roadrunner search thing. I tried to edit the

Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne Troubles

2012-04-08 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/8/2012 10:00 PM, cordat...@aol.com wrote: FreeDOS User ... If WATTCP is working correctly you don't need the other lines in your config file beyond my_ip=dhcp as they are filled in if DHCP works. As has been discussed here before some versions of WATTCP support DHCP and some don't.

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/11/2012 5:21 AM, Alex wrote: This is exactly the sort of nightmarish scenario I was worrying about!! I was hoping that someone would point out how foolish my worries were, but now they appear to be not so foolish after all... As an end user, your fears are probably foolish. Emulation

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/11/2012 1:25 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: For hard-core application programming where you need to use a few BIOS and DOS interrupts I like to use C and C++ (carefully). C gives you a tremendous amount

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/11/2012 1:38 PM, John Wesley Cooper wrote: On 4/11/2012 6:14 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: As an end user, your fears are probably foolish. Emulation and virtualization work fine for anybody playing with DOS at the application level. Application-level? But doesn't DOS more or less

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/11/2012 2:34 PM, Alex wrote: Sorry but I still don't find the above comments very reassuring, with regard to the future usability of (Free)DOS on new hardware. The fact that we will be able to run DOS in emulators/virtual machines, because we can no longer boot it, is no reason at all for

[Freedos-user] Next mTCP release (2012) - wish lists and ideas?

2012-04-20 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I am looking for wish lists items, bug reports, and ideas for the next release of mTCP. The current version is about six months old now. I haven't had too many bug reports so there has not been a great need to update it. That is also the release that FreeDOS 1.1 chose to use, so it has seen

Re: [Freedos-user] Next mTCP release (2012) - wish lists and ideas?

2012-04-21 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Marcos, A network drive letter similar to the Microsoft LAN client would be great, but that is a major undertaking - far larger in effort than the FTP server, which was the last major addition. That is not coming any time soon - it might as well be a separate project for the amount of work

Re: [Freedos-user] Next mTCP release (2012) - wish lists and ideas?

2012-04-24 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/21/2012 5:44 AM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: snip Also, it would be nice if mTCP became FDAPM-aware. Regards *and* thanks, Marcos Marcos, I'm testing this now. With FDAPM set to APMDOS VirtualBox is idling. Before I made the change it was chewing up an entire CPU. I

Re: [Freedos-user] Next mTCP release (2012) - wish lists and ideas?

2012-04-27 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/26/2012 10:18 PM, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br wrote: My wishes: 1) Support for class 6 packet drivers 2) TCP/IP packet logging capability 3) A TSR version Best regards, JAS 1) mTCP does not support serial (class 6) directly. But DOSPPP can be used with mTCP and I have used one

Re: [Freedos-user] Setting up a shared printer

2012-05-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
If your network attached printer is listening on TCP/IP port 9100 (HP JetDirect protocol) and your DOS program can generate something the printer can understand, then do the following: - Print your printer output to a file - Send the file to the printer using this command: nc -target

Re: [Freedos-user] Setting up a shared printer

2012-05-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 5/6/2012 4:10 PM, nospam wrote: Very interesting. I suggest you make a FreeDOS Wiki page from this information. Georg It is just a trick that I found. I was waiting to do a more comprehensive writeup on network printing until after I write an LPR daemon. Netcat is one of the best kept

Re: [Freedos-user] Setting up a shared printer

2012-05-07 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 5/7/2012 6:32 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: Netcat is one of the best kept secrets in the world of networking. You can use it to send email, printer files, or any arbitrary data from one machine to another machine

[Freedos-user] mTCP 2012-05-30 is available

2012-05-31 Thread Michael B. Brutman
It has been a while and I've accumulated a lot of changes and fixes. Here is what you can look forward to: * Power awareness for virtual machines and laptops *IRCjr fixes to improve compatibility with more servers *Howto style documentation for setting up SLIP and PPP with mTCP *FTPSrv

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

2012-06-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Marcos, As far as networking is concerned, I abuse my older machines all of time. I don't think you have a networking problem; I think it is a hardware problem, or very bad device driver settings. General failure reading drive C is a bad sign. I would make a new backup of that server hard

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS, pythond, and icmp

2012-06-23 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 6/22/2012 2:01 PM, Bob Tanner wrote: Asking here as I cannot find any mailing list or new group for pythond. Looking for a reason why pythond under FreeDOS does not support the icmp protocol. PythonD 2.4.2r1 for DJGPP [GCC 3.3.2] on ms-dos5 import socket socket.getprotobyname(icmp)

Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate

2012-06-26 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I have been blissfully unaware of the packaging requirements for FreeDOS. I update mTCP a few times a year, and I know that is a lot of work to get right. Is there a FAQ or notes on how FreeDOS manages packages? If I can make the mTCP updates easier I will. Mike

Re: [Freedos-user] network printing

2012-06-28 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Hi David, There are versions of DOS supplied with machines that have a mode command that can redirect the printer port. It might even be a standard feature of the mode command. But it is strictly a port change - instead of using the BIOS to send characters to the printer it uses the BIOS to

[Freedos-user] Licensing and copyleft (Was: Re: FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I'm missing something here. The big restriction that a GPL license imposes is copyleft. If you use GPL code *AND* you distribute your work then you have to make your source code available too. You can profit from your work and the work of others but you can't hide your changes. In the case

Re: [Freedos-user] Licensing and copyleft (Was: Re: FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Overly pedantic. The thread title stopped matching the thread contents a few replies ago - it has not discussed FreeDOS compatibility in the recent replies. It has devolved into an open source licensing meta discussion. It is a meta discussion by most reasonable measures, and I changed the

Re: [Freedos-user] Licensing and copyleft (Was: Re: FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 7/6/2012 12:25 PM, C. Masloch wrote: I agree, I'm certainly overly pedantic and unreasonable and silly. And you're the one using the term intellectual property as if that was a coherent concept. =) I guess I don't understand that last message either. The purpose of all of these

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: Good discussion groups for ASM, C or C++

2012-07-30 Thread Michael B. Brutman
You sent your query to the freedos-user list. Are you subscribed to freedos-devel too? If not, then you should. Another great resource is the forums at BTTR software: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum.php And one more link - the programming area of the Vintage-computer forum:

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos in VirtualBox not a sure thing

2012-08-15 Thread Michael B. Brutman
John, Maybe you could help us by being very specific with what worked and what went wrong? The only thing I could gather from your message was that it was difficult to do, and it was slow. One thing that is essential for good performance is to ensure that your host machine is new enough to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos in VirtualBox not a sure thing

2012-08-17 Thread Michael B. Brutman
John, Just to make sure I understand ... You are running a batch file that is doing net use to setup printer shares, a file share, and loads nansi.sys. And the output to the screen during that time is around 8.5 chars per second? Just as a comparison, running the FreeDOS Beta of 1.1 under

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: FreeDOS network package manager

2012-10-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
I noted that FDNPKG is using WatTCP - I don't see that as a problem. While I prefer mTCP and I think it has many advantages (speed, size, bug fixes, etc.) WatTCP works well enough and people are comfortable with it. I also have a slight bias, so I am trying to be objective. ; - 0 The

Re: [Freedos-user] hard drive question?

2012-11-13 Thread Michael B. Brutman
We are far off topic now and I probably should not admit this but ... I've installed both DOS 3.3 and DOS 5 on the same machine lately. And yes, I had to use 32MB partitions. I wanted to be able to dual boot my machine (a PCjr, 1983) to both operating systems. DOS 3.3 uses an earlier

Re: [Freedos-user] hard drive question?

2012-11-14 Thread Michael B. Brutman
, but often not productive. That is not a typical use-case for DOS. Mike On 11/13/2012 9:50 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Nov 13, 2012 8:39 PM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com mailto:mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: I think that 8GB is more than enough for any DOS system I'm ever going

Re: [Freedos-user] What about scsi???

2012-12-17 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Does the SCSI card have an onboard BIOS? If so, it should provide BIOS level access to hard drives using INT 13h. You should not need device drivers to access that function. Windows wants device drivers for additional device support and performance. FreeDOS is just fine with BIOS level

Re: [Freedos-user] hunting a program?

2012-12-19 Thread Michael B. Brutman
mTCP sounds right. ; - 0 The latest versions are at Google Code: https://code.google.com/p/mtcp/ . It gets updated more frequently than FreeDOS does, hence the spamming the mailing list. The next version so far has mostly IRCjr fixes and improvements. I'm also looking into making it more

Re: [Freedos-user] Stack overflow

2012-12-20 Thread Michael B. Brutman
First, the good news - Watcom includes code at the start and end of each function to detect stack overflows. It is a lot easier to debug code when you know what the root cause of the problem is. If the stack overflow were to happen and remain silent, you could have all sorts of strange

Re: [Freedos-user] Stack overflow

2012-12-20 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 12/20/2012 2:41 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: asking programming errors on a mailing list that is focused on operating system development is considered BAD. I don't think we have enough developers (OS or application) or enough list traffic where we can afford to be picky ... Mike

Re: [Freedos-user] Stack overflow

2012-12-20 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 12/20/2012 3:11 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 12:58 PM 12/20/2012, Louis Santillan wrote: The Memory Model (Tiny vs. Small vs. Compact vs. Medium vs. Large, .COM vs. .EXE) of the compiler could be causing the issue. Some compilers used to default to Small. What compiler flags are you using?

Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Drivers needed for old DOS programs

2012-12-30 Thread Michael B. Brutman
The time to consider DOS compatibility is *before* you purchase the printer. If your printer can do some form of PCL then you are probably safe. A higher end HP laser printer should definitely understand PCL. Old Epson printer emulation and PostScript would be acceptable too - a Brother

Re: [Freedos-user] Log in at C prompt

2013-01-07 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 1/7/2013 5:34 AM, Russell Benson wrote: Hi I have loaded freedos and I get to Welcome To FreeDos Operating system C:\ What do I need to do to get into the system? That is probably the best/only laugh I have ever had on this mailing list ... It reminds me of the introduction to an old

Re: [Freedos-user] New standard FreeDOS text editor - what it should be (voting)?

2013-01-29 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Most people have a favorite editor already; you have an uphill battle if you think that one editor can replace the rest. Here are some comments on your feature list: - 8088 class machines should be supported. There is nothing in the 80286 or 80386 opcode set that should be required for a

Re: [Freedos-user] New standard FreeDOS text editor - what it should be (voting)?

2013-01-29 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 1/29/2013 11:09 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: - An editor should be small enough to run on a 128K machine. FreeDOS will not run on a 128K machine. Ok. Then make it 256. You get the idea. I haven't looked into the source code, but is FreeDOS really that much of a memory hog where it will not boot

Re: [Freedos-user] New standard FreeDOS text editor - what it should be (voting)?

2013-01-29 Thread Michael B. Brutman
Tom, Get up on the wrong side of the bed today? Why so defensive? PC/MS DOS 5.x and 6.x will run in 256K with usable memory to spare. PC/MS DOS 3.x will run in 128K with usable memory to spare. If FreeDOS is designed/optimized for a bigger footprint then that's fair, but there is nothing

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