[Gimp-user] Preview in CMYK
I know there is a function in Gimp for a preview using the CMYK gamut with the out of gamut colors marked in a special color, often a light green. I have forgotten how to activate it. The manual didn't seem to cover it. Help appreciated. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp catered to the needs of the printing industry. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] opening CMYK psd
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:26:42 +0200 bobdobbs for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Hi all. I'm using gimp 2.6.10 on ubuntu 10.10. I have a layered psd that has been edited using a CMYK colour profile. I'd like to open it. When I try, gimp gives me the error: Error loading PSD file: Unsupported color mode: CMYK Googling around gets me some interesting solutions. One is to use imagemagicks 'convert' to create each layer as a png. When I tried this, I got a whole bunch of generically named layers. Most of the conversions had failed, resulting in transparent png's with no content. I found this thread, nearly three years old, on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958470 One of the solutions proposed in it is to use a seperation filter that that has been created as a plugin. I found the homepage for such a plugin. It had a warning that the plugin should not be used, with a broken link to a better one to use. I also found this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CMYK_support_in_The_GIMP#CMYK_color_and_The_GIMP This provides some information on the issue, and a link to a plugin package to help remedy. However, the plugin is about four years old. Is this a solved problem yet? Is it possible to open CMYK psd's in gimp? Thanks. Scribus will import PSD and export e.g. png or tiff in RGB model. However once you are in Scribus you may find that most of what you need to do can be done in CMYK in that program. My rule is: if headed toward web presentation work in RGB, if headed for print work in CMYK. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:38:20 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM, john Culleton wrote: About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp catered to the needs of the printing industry. GIMP only got PDF exporting in upcoming v2.8. This exporter uses Cairo. Cairo doesn't support CMYk and spot colors. Therefore requesting CMYK PDF exporting will start making sense only after Cairo gets support for CMYK and spot colors. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I am reminded of my old sergeant in Korea who told me: Young soldier, don't tell me why you can't do it---tell me how you did it. Scribus does CMYK. Scribus also uses Cairo. If Gimp ever hopes to compete on an even keel with PhotoShop or even Scribus it should offer CMYK output too. It is an absolute requirement for printed output. While we are on the topic of outputs, for years the PostScript output from Gimp has had default X and Y offset values of 5mm. The default should be zero of course. I used to go in and patch the source code for Gimp to zero out the offset defaults. Now I don't bother any more. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:31:13 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: As software GIMP isn't defined by its developers through competition against any other software. Hence GIMP dosn't aim to compete against anything else, it aims to suit the needs of professionals. Understood. Professionals in the world of the printed word need CMYK. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] fixing file browser
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:36:07 -0400 Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote: I am running GIMP 2.6...and noticed lately that the file type chooser type box is almost useless. When you click on the type a long thin box opens and you can't see the types. You can see what I mean here : http://imagebin.org/172855 Can anyone suggest what's wrong ? You could click on the edge and pull it out. I use Gimp 2.6.11 on Slackware Linux. What do you use exactly? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] please unsubscribe me
On Thursday, August 04, 2011 04:16:19 pm sandy rice wrote: thks Do it yourself here: https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 04:33:43 am Ofnuts wrote: On 07/30/2011 10:33 PM, John Culleton wrote: I have a different problem. I am processing a series of screen shots through Gimp to desaturate them (color pages cost more then B/W pages.) Each time I retrieve a screen shot from: /usr/local/active/scribusp and desaturate it I must chase down the entire file tree to save it again in /usr/local/active/scribusp. I think Gimp should remember the directory from which an image was loaded. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux. This is the way it works... Maybe Gimp gets shy because /usr and /usr/local aren't writable by non-root users? On my machine /usr/local/ is writable by my own user name. In fact my own user name owns /usr/local and all its subordinates. So rights are not the problem. I just have to go through more clicks than is reasonable just to get back to where I started. -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 03:22:55 pm saluk wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Maerz wrote: On this topic, I have a question. With this new Save and Export feature, will it be possible to save an .xcf and export the image all at once? As in I press save, and two files are generated (or overwritten). You will have to script it, at least for now :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org This workflow is troubling. I don't work with xcf, but with real image formats (png, jpg). The old way had its problems (always asking what settings to use for export), but this isn't any better. I now have no way to see if I have exported my image or not, because the change indicator is not updated when the image is exported. Also, if you are going to display a warning message when I try to save as jpg, you might as well handle the exporting there as before. Leave the new export workflow as is, but its restrictive to only use xcf as the native image type, when depending on what I'm working on I may want a different native type, while yet exporting to something else. Back to 2.6 for me :( I have a different problem. I am processing a series of screen shots through Gimp to desaturate them (color pages cost more then B/W pages.) Each time I retrieve a screen shot from: /usr/local/active/scribusp and desaturate it I must chase down the entire file tree to save it again in /usr/local/active/scribusp. I think Gimp should remember the directory from which an image was loaded. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
I downloaded two scm files and copied them to /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/ Now how do I get them to show up in the file-create-logo menu? -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
On Monday, July 25, 2011 03:55:35 pm John Culleton wrote: I downloaded two scm files and copied them to /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/ Now how do I get them to show up in the file-create- logo menu? One of them showed up on the xtns menu sequence, the other didn't. Anyhow on to the next problem. I downloaded gimpscripter.py and placed it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python When I run it stand alone it says it must be run from within Gimp. How do I access it from within Gimp 2.6.11? -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
On Monday, July 25, 2011 04:38:59 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: One of them showed up on the xtns menu sequence, the other didn't. Use Help Plug-In Browser for finding your scripts and plugins. http://docs.gimp.org/en/plug-in-plug-in-details.html I downloaded gimpscripter.py and placed it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python What did you do that for? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp- user Because I didn't know where I should put it. -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Make scm files show up.
On Monday, July 25, 2011 05:12:05 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:41 AM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: I downloaded gimpscripter.py and placed it in /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/python What did you do that for? Because I didn't know where I should put it. Ah, maybe you mean http://registry.gimp.org/node/25305? :) Well, that should go to /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/ if you absolutely want it installed for all users in the system. For reference on add-ons installation and management you can use http://libregraphicsworld.org/articles.php?article_id=30 Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp- user Like many installations, I am the only user of the computer. So I put it there. Now it appears at the foot of the filter menu. Progress! I create a canvas and click on gimpscripter. Should not a window appear? If not how do I terminate my gimpscripter session? -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Scheme to python-fu
I am interested in rewriting some of the logo scripts in Python. I feel that an investment in learning Python will be more productive than trying to learn Scheme. I have two questions: 1. Is there a stash somewhere of python scripts for Gimp? The few that come with the distro help one to interface to Gimp but are not apps themselves. Hopefully someone somewhare has tranlated some of the logo scripts to python. 2. Are there any advantages to using 2.7 instead of 2.6.11 with respect to python scripting? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Fonts
On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 09:21:49 am crutledge wrote: Is there any way to make gimp ignore the windows fonts and use only those in the gimp font folder? Use Linux? (Ducks and runs) :) -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] UFRaw default settings
On Friday, July 15, 2011 02:13:49 pm Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Mikael Ståldal wrote: Luckily Darktable exists now so one doesn't have to bother with UFRaw on Linux anymore. What advantages does Darktable offer over GIMP with UFRaw plugin? 32bit per color channel precision LAB as main processing color space Threaded processing, OpenCL support Non-destructive editing Nice color adjustment and artistic tools. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp- user I am a total novice with using RAW format. But no guts no glory. I had taken two shots in RAF (Fuji RAW) format of a color wheel. When I import them into Darktable they come up greenish. What do I do next? Do I need a special profile for the Fuji camera? -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Do you use a tablet with Gimp?
Do you use a tablet with Gimp? If so, which one? -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Short book review: GIMP 2.6 Cookbook
On Sunday, June 26, 2011 10:50:09 am Mikael Ståldal wrote: On 2011-06-26 15:11, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: 2nd edition of Beginning GIMP was published in 2008, while the book in question is from 2011. Discounts tend to grow as books grow older. Beginning GIMP was $49.99 originally GIMP 2.6 Cookbook was $40.49 originally. Fair enough, but considering the difference in page number I guess that printing it in color would have made it at most 10 percent more expensive. So I still think it was outright stupid to print it without color. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It all depends on whether the book was printed offset or digital. -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Default image dpi
When I import JPG images from my digital camera Gimp assumes that they are 72 x 72 DPI. Is there a way to set this defasult to be 600 x 600 without manually adjusting it each time using scale image? I use Gimp to print the images. Gimp 2.6.11 on Salix Linux. -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Rotation witout cropping.
When I open a rectangular photographic image (JPG) and rotate it 90 degrees, the canvas remains the same and the ends of the photo are cropped. I there a way to rotate the whole shebang so this cropping doesn't happen? Telling the canvas to resize to the picture doesn't seem to work for me. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotation witout cropping.
On Saturday, June 25, 2011 06:50:04 pm Daniel Hornung wrote: Hi John, do you rotate the layer or the image? Cheers, Daniel The image, using the tool on the left hand tool palette. How do I rotate both simultaneously? -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Producing Gel text.
The excellent book by Michael J Hammel The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects describes in detail the creation of gel text for book covers, web pages etc. I developed my own summary checklist following the guidance in his book. And it works in production. The bad news is his list has 37 steps. And his book was written in the days of Gimp 2.2, looking forward to 2.4. Today 2.6.11 is the stable version and 2.7.x is in use by many. So I ask the group to look over the 37 steps listed below and evaluate whether there are better approaches available in e.g., 2.6.11 that can shorten the list a bit. -- 1. Create canvas 420x100 at 300 dpi. 2. Select Foregorund Color and set to 0/15/222 3. Select text tool. Choose serif font set to e.g. 180 pixels. 4. Type text 5. Move text to center of canvas. 6. Choose Layer- Layer to Image size. 7. Choose Layer- Transparency - Alpha to Selection. 8. Choose Select - Shrink 2 pixels 9. Choose Select - Feather 2 Pixels 10. Select Foreground Color and set to 31/82/255 11. Select Layer- New layer. Name Bump Map. 12. Make Bump Map active layer. 13. Fill text with Foreground Layer color (drag drop). 14. Select - None. 15. Layer - Duplicate. Name layer Blur. 16 Make Blur layer active layer. 17. Filters- Blur-Gaussian Blur 10 Pixels. 18. Make Bump Layer active layer. 19. Filters - Map - Bump Map. Azimuth 105, Elevation 5.75, Depth 10, Map Type Linear, Compensate for Darkening. Apply. 20. Set Bump Map Layer mode to Addition. 21. Colors - Curve 22. Set Blur Layer invisible. 23. Bump Map Layer: Filters - Light and Dark - Lighting Effect 24. Options tab: Move blue dot. 25. Light Tab: Directional, Intensity 1.45, OK 26. Layer - Transform - Offset -2 -2. 27. Filters - Blur - Gaussian Blur - 5 28. Make Blur active visible. 29. Layer- Duplicate Layer. 30. Make Blur Duplicate Layer active. 31. Layer - Transform -Offset 2 2 32. Make Blur layer active 33. Layer - Trensform - Offset -2 -2 34. Set Blur layer mode to Addition 35. Set Blur copy layer mode to Screen 36. Make text layer active 37. Filter - Shadows - Drop Shadow Offset 2 pixels Blur 3 pixels. -- -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Collage scaling up
On Sunday, May 15, 2011 03:56:15 am Greg Chapman wrote: Hi Chris, On 15 May 11 01:01 Christoph Schwitter christophschwit...@bluewin.ch said: If there is a way to do this? Or another way to get the same result? Scaling down will always mean that, at some point, you will need to up-scale it with the consequent loss of detail. Stitching several parts together will lead to a slow final process, which may coke if you have insufficient RAM. Probably the only way to do it well is to ensure you have enough RAM installed, and that will mean an nnnooormous amount. The image size, that the GIMP works with is many times bigger than a JPEG file that you load. Check the status line on the GIMP. A typical 2.2Mb file from my 9Mpx camera expands to around 80Mb once uncompressed for editing within the GIMP. Greg Chapman If the OP is working in Linux then perhaps the swap space would take up the slack. Also, it may be possible to produce all the pieces of the collage in Gimp and then stitch them together in another program, such as Scribus or ImageMagick. ImageMagick has a Montage program that might be useful. Any program that lacks the memory overhead of Gimp could be used. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Death Wore Black Police procedural by retired police chief Bill Redding ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: scriipt-fu or python?
On Friday, May 13, 2011 05:13:47 pm Kevin Cozens wrote: John Culleton wrote: 1. Do python scripts go into the same folder as .scm scripts? If not, where? I find the .scm scripts in Script-Fu scripts you want to add to your installation of GIMP should be placed in ~/.gimp-2.6/scripts. For all other add-on plug-ins/scripts you need to put them in ~/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins and they should be marked as executable. Script-Fu scripts do not need to be marked as executable. NOTE: If you are using the development version of GIMP the directory is ~/.gimp-2.7 2. I don't know either language but have programmed in COBOL and Tcl/Tk with side excursions into Perl, C and so on. Given this background which will the easiest to master for my first plug-in? The task I have in mind is gel text as described in The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects on page 268ff. You can certainly use either language to save yourself a lot of manual steps. If you want other people to use the script then Script-Fu will give you the widest possible audience for it as Script-Fu scripts can be used with every GIMP install. If you are creating a script for your own use, you can use either language. If you are mainly used to writing programs in a procedural language you might want to use Script-Fu/Scheme. GIMP also comes with about 100 Script-Fu scripts that you can examine as you learn how to write your own Script-Fu script(s). If you go the Script-Fu route, I would also suggest you get a copy of the R5RS (or the two main parts of the R6RS) Scheme standard documents and you format the Scheme code like you would other programming languages. This means no putting all closing ) on one line. It makes it easier to see the syntax and structure of Scheme while you are learning. On the other hand, if you want to create a script to save you some work with a language that would be more generally useful for other things outside of GIMP, you would be better off with Python. It is mainly an object oriented programming language but you can still use it for procedural programming. Python scripts for GIMP may make some use of OOP features and there may not be as many scripts with GIMP for you to look at. You can always get help on the #gimp-user IRC channel or this mailing list whichever choice you make. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I have spent some hours analyzing the question further. We have plenty of examples of script-fu and plenty of tutorials for Python. We also have a whole fistful of plug-ins written in a compiler language. Is this C? In my case the program itself is purely linear, 37 steps taken in a certain order. To this we can add at the front end a step or steps of collecting information from the user, via a screen with labels and input fields. But the whole process is straight line with no conditionals or branches. In this situation object oriantation woud seem to be irrelevant. It is all a straight line of step one followed by step two. I have some early kindergarten level questions: 1. In the script-fu examples: functions or modules or whatever within Gimp itself are called by certain names and fed certain values. Do these identical names work in Python also? I see no centralized list of functions by name. 2. Does it really matter to Gimp in what language the script or plug-ins are written? For example could one write a plug-in using C or even Tcl-Tk so long as the right calls were made? Or must one use a special language- specific interface package? In short before I go further I need ot know more about the gimp--plugin or script interface. I get that the plug in muist be registered with gimp. But is that registration process also just another call to a module written in C? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Fwd: scriipt-fu or python?
Gimp 2.6.11 on Slackware Linux: 1. Do python scripts go into the same folder as .scm scripts? If not, where? I find the .scm scripts in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts 2. I don't know either language but have programmed in COBOL and Tcl/Tk with side excursions into Perl, C and so on. Given this background which will the easiest to master for my first plug-in? The task I have in mind is gel text as described in The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects on page 268ff. I did same for my current project but did not have much fun going through the 26 +/- steps over and over. -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Realistic police procedural by retired police chief Bill Redding ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changing a Text Layer
On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 02:18:25 pm Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Rhino wrote: What am I doing wrong? How do I access the layers that I created before the current layer? If you want to make changes to an existing text layer, in the layer dialog, make the layer containing the text you want to change the active layer, In the layer window when you click on a layer the whole layer bar gets a blue background and that is the active layer. To isolate that layer click the eye icon for each other layer. That makes the other layers invisible. If the eye icon is visible then that layer is visible and if it isn't then the layer is invisible. Just remember, the layer with the blue background is the active layer and the layer(s) with the eye icon are visible. That is obvious to experienced users but not necessarily obvious to those coming to Gimp from other software. -- John Culleton 2401 Haight Avenue Eldersburg MD 21784 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gel Text tutorial.
There are several of these on the net. Is there a favorite, one that works well on Gimp 2.6.11 with minimum fuss and feathers? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problem downsizing Tiff's
On Saturday 23 April 2011 07:53:49 Carusoswi wrote: So, I have used Gimp to downsize large architectural drawing images from Tiff's to jpgs. Well, I always thought I was downsizing them. In the past, the process always seemed to make the files more usable in the application where I need to use the architectural drawings without a significant loss in quality. This morning, I have had trouble following 'my process'. Typically, I will open a tiff in Gimp, save as jpg, export if prompted, then select quality of 40 or 50 percent, and the result is a usable file that is significantly smaller than the source tiff file. Today, the source tiff which is 900 mb in size is being converted to jpg which is 6 or 7 mb in size, totally unusable. Additionally, if I simply open the source in Gimp, save it to another directory from Gimp without making any changes, the file also grows to 6 or 7 mb. What am I doing wrong this morning that I have not been doing wrong for the last 6 months? I am stumped (and frustrated because I have work to do). Using version 2.6.11 in Ubuntu 10.10 if that matters. I have a version of 2.7 on my Windows XP OS, and it will lock up trying to open these drawings. It's curious, because, at 900 MB, I typically can use the drawings without even altering or downsizing them. Today, it's a problem. What I really cannot understand is why Gimp is causing unaltered files to grow in size when saving them. Is that normal? Advice will be most appreciated. Caruso Are the architectural drawings available in a vector format such as svg or pdf? These are normally much smaller for drawings etc. than their bitmapped equivalents. If not you might have better luck importing them as bitmaps into Inkscape and then converting them to svg or pdf using either trace mode or outline mode. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] My annual inquiry.
Just isntalled 2.6.11. I note that some people have installed 2.7.2. Is there a summary somewhere of the new features available with 2.7.2? -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem
On Thursday 14 October 2010 18:09:18 ChadBJX wrote: Chad, Can you print _anything_ from Gimp? If you can print a very tiny image, maybe it is a printer memory problem. Sorry, I can't help further. I don't have Vista and I am sitting here happily emailing from Ubuntu. ;-) I will have to get Vista soon (for certain software we will be required to use), but I will run that under Vmware on the Ubuntu (as I do with XP, W2K, Win95, and RedHat Linux, and Unixware!). Jay Hi Jay, Thanks for the idea. I was trying to print a fairly large graphic file size. Will try a small simple graphic and will also try saving as a .jpg instead of Gimp's default format and see if that works for me. I'll let you know but it may be a few days until I can get back to the forum to let you know. Thanks again. I love forums -- You usually get the best answers there. :) Chad I don't try to use the print capabilities of Gimp, of Inkscape, of Krita, of Scribus or whatever. It is easier to save a file (PDF anyone?) and print that file out using e.g., Acrobat Reader. And now a question. Why are you upgrading to the effectively abandoned product Vista? Would not Windows 7 make more sense? -- John Culleton, Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus $5.95 at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html Free eps format barcode: http://www.tux.org/~milgram/bookland/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I install it? Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with Gimp-help
On Sunday 08 August 2010 18:53:22 Owen wrote: On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:13:57 -0400 John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: As an occasional user of Gimp I don't have all the arcana of installation memorized. Where can I find gimp-help and where should I install it? Salackware Linux 13.0, Gimp 2.6.6. Hi John, Have a look at http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ and see if that helps Look for the bit that says GIMP help files are available at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/ Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It appears that the English version of the help file is corrupted. First I get ftp download errors (binary download) for lines that consist only of a carriage return. I did it twice and got the same message. Next when I try to bunzip2 the file I get bunzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. Input file = gimp-help-2.6.0-html-en.tar.bz2, output file = gimp- help-2.6.0-html-en.tar I can keep trying, but is this a known defect? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Removing white border.
This problem involves an illo to be used on a book cover in Scribus. Some time back I took a photo of a church with a white sky background (OK very light gray). I was able to select and delete the background so now I have the church plus a transparent background. I saved it as png. When i used it there was a very thin border of white pixels around the outline of the church and its steeples etc. A Photoshop guy said I could select the church, invert so that the background was selected, enlarge the background by a few pixels and delete it again to get rid of the white line. But right now the background is just a transparency. Currently the illo is in png form, though of course I can go back to the original jpg from the scanner. Using either product, the png or the original jpg, how do I eliminate both the sky and the white line? I want the background to be totally transparent. I have Gimp 2.6.6 on Slackware 13.0 Linux. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Monday 21 June 2010 14:11:58 Martin Nordholts wrote: On 06/21/2010 08:00 PM, John Culleton wrote: And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? We know we need CMYK sooner or later, but higher bit depths and non-destructiveness is much more important. So first good support for the latter, then we can begin looking into proper support for the former IMO. Maybe in a stable version 6-8 years from now with the current pace of development. / Martin Hey, I may not live that long :). Krita has had CMYK for years. But of course Krita lacks the full feature set of Gimp. Maybe some of that Krita code could be lifted for Gimp, just as InDesign lifted important features from TeX. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?
On Monday 21 June 2010 12:49:00 Martin Nordholts wrote: On 06/21/2010 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote: Is it still being worked on? If so, is there any word on availability? When it's ready is the best you can get :) There is more to say. Right now the top priority is to get GIMP 2.8 released. The current goal is late 2010. GIMP 2.8 does not have support for high bit depths. Once GIMP 2.8 is out, we will start phasing out the legacy 8-bit-per-channel code and replace it with GEGL. In other words, we will start for real to introduce support for high bit depths in GIMP. There is no schedule of this work, so a date cannot be given. It is reasonable though to expect this work to go on for say 2-4 years. Regards, Martin And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On Monday 21 June 2010 13:12:19 Branko Vukelic wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: SNIPPAGE I've cut your message since it's been said over and over (and over) again. Lots of people complaining. I've just two things to say to all of you who do: 1. Get real. 2. DTP with open-source software: It's been done. Successfully. Repeatedly. Period. Good luck. Yes I do DTP with TeX and Scribus. But my question is about CMYK on Gimp. When? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] RAW film formats.
While cruising through Krita I note that it will import several raw digital formats from several camera manufacturers. Will this be a Gimp feature in the future? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] RAW film formats.
On Friday 18 June 2010 13:32:34 John Mills wrote: Try the 'ufraw' plugin. See: [http://ufraw.sourceforge.net] Works here. - Mills On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, John Culleton wrote: While cruising through Krita I note that it will import several raw digital formats from several camera manufacturers. Will this be a Gimp feature in the future? Very good. The specific Krita filter that caught my eye was for Fuji RAF raw image. There were about a dozen others for various makes of cameras. Does the existing Gimp filter cover all these variants? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] font location.
I wanted to use the free Pricedown font in a Gimp process. First I put it in my home directory: /home/safe/.gimp-2.6/fonts/pricedow.ttf Gimp didn't find it. Then I put it in /usr/share/fonts/TTF/pricedow.ttf Gimp didn't find it. Then I put it in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/fonts/pricedow.ttf Gimp found it. Now we are a long way from 2.0. Why do I have to put a font in there to be found? And why doesn't the online Gimp manual say anything about font installation? Slackware 13 Linux, Gimp 2.6.6 -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.scribd.com/doc/24676863/ http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Multi-page TIFF
On Friday 21 August 2009 22:52:36 M. Bashir Al-Noimi wrote: Hi All, I want to know, How I can create multi-page TIFF file. P.S. I could open/modify multi-page TIFF file successfully. - Best Regards Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi My Blog: http://mbnoimi.net/ You might be able to create a multipage document using Scribus, then export it as tiff. But the purpose of such an exercise escapes me. Why not deal with pdf instead? That is more suited for printing. -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] freefonts sharefonts on MSWin
A bit of background: the last version of MSWin I used regularly was 3.1. I have only used Gimp under Linux. For the Linux user the incorporation of all the fonts contained in the freefonts and sharefonts packages are pretty well defined. Installation of a single font under MSWin is also well defined. But how does one install an entire collection like the two mentioned? I have WinXP on a spare partition to experiment with. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Chalk Logo doesn't work.
I am making a chart of all the different logos under the FileCreateLogos submenu. The Chalk Logo doesn't seem to work. First it calls for Cooper which is not on my system. Second, even when I substitute an available font (e.g., Cooper Heavy) all I get is a black image. The layers dialog just shows a background layer and a completely empty text layer. Should I just give up on Chalk? I have Gimp 2.6.6 on Slackware 12.2. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing issue
On Friday 24 July 2009 12:40:42 am Erik Lotspeich wrote: Hi, I have OpenSUSE 11.1 and Gimp 2.6.2. I am having a serious problem with printing that I cannot figure out. For background, I've used Gimp since 1997 and I'm no novice to Gimp, Linux, or Unix. That being said, I found the printing in Gimp 2.2 to be near perfect. It worked perfectly and had a feature to auto-fit the image to the correct paper size. Image rotation (landscape/portrait) was never an issue. I find the printing interface in Gimp 2.6.2 to be a complete failure in terms of both interface and functionality. Here are links to some screenshots: https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-print-fail.png https://joomla.lotspeich.org/~erik/gimp-image-properties.png I would like to know why the width and height do not correspond to any reasonable value. I set my paper size to 4x6 borderless on an HP OfficeJet 6110. Printing on this printer works perfectly in other programs; I'm using hplip and CUPS. Why is there no auto-resize like there is in Gimp 2.2? Why is the X and Y resolution pegged to 1133.948? Why won't it let me set this value? The preview does not correspond in any way to my paper size (see the huge border on the bottom!). I'm sorry to sound upset by this issue, but I'm completely shocked that a wonderful program like Gimp would have such a complete regression. I'm using the distro version of Gimp (OpenSUSE); I haven't tried to compile the latest version from source. I also tried Gimp for Windows on my wife's Windows Vista computer. Printing here is just as much of a failure. On Windows, it's actually worse since the page setup options that Gimp provides conflict with the printer driver's settings (e.g. paper size, rotation, etc.). I tried all permutations of portrait/landscape and could never find a way to print correctly. Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Erik ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user My history with Gimp is much more limited than yours. I have always used Gimp for creation/manipulation of images and some other program for printing out the results in a document. When I rarely need to print color work locally I throw a switch to redirect traffic to my Epson Stylus Color 880 and select that printer from the Cups popup. Someday I hope to get a color laser. But I will still use Gimp for image massaging and something else to print out the results. Perhaps I should test Gutenprint directly from Gimp just to be sure it works. My Epson 880 is ancient. Hence it is well understood by software. When it dies I may try to find another on EBay. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Print Quality Poorer than Word?
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 09:59:10 pm bumpkin wrote: The graphics guy sent me our logo as a .jpg so I created a new file with the appropriate dimensions in the lasest GIMP for windows. I imported and scaled down the logo to the appropriate size and placed it at the top, finished adding the text, combined the layers and exported as a .tiff for the printer. The logo and text resolution on the print out was terrible... I tried printing it in the original GIMP format and as jpeg... same quality. I then tried created the same add in Word 2007 and the image and text quality was excellent :( I am a linux user and was rather frustrated and confused when Word produced better print quality than GIMP. Any explanation or help greatly appreciated. Thanks -B As my father would say, there are horses for courses. Although Gimp has some nice type effects it is not really a typesetting engine. In a book or an ad small type is vector in nature. Gimp is basically bitmap in nature. I find that using a combination of tools works best. For example you could create your ad in Gimp except for the small type. Import that image into Scribus and set the type there overlaying the graphic art. You could use TeX also (particularly the Context variant) but that is a lot more trouble. For examples of Gimp/Scribus combination images please visit http://wexfordpress.net/illos.html. Look at the Loon Lake Legacy romantic novel example in particular. The main title type is from a Gimp logo with some layers supressed. The spine and the back cover type is set by Scribus. This particular book cover image is created at 72 DPI for web use. For a real book I would use 300 DPI. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to Combine Layers with Feathered or Softened Edges
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 01:58:33 pm James Cobban wrote: I am trying to combine images scanned from microfilm in the case where the lens on the microfilm scanner is too powerful to permit me to scan an entire page into a single image file. I believe that this application is similar to trying to create a landscape from multiple photographs. I scan the original into a PDF containing multiple images. I then open this PDF as layers. I have been able to rearrange the layers, raise and lower them, and merge them to create a single image file, but I have 2 problems: 1) Sometime the key spots within the layers which I need to line up prior to merging the layers are not right on the edge of either layer. To perform the alignment I need to make at least the outer portion of the upper layer partially transparent so I can properly align them. 2) Once I am finished the contrast between the two layers is generally such that the edge of the upper layer is clearly visible in the merged result. Once again if I could make the outer edge of the upper layer transparent on a gradient to fully transparent at the edge, I could make the edge invisible. I think of this operation as feathering the layer, but searching through the documentation and web guides I can only find feathering as applicable to images, not layers. The following is an example of the result I currently have: http://www.jamescobban.net/Ontario/images/B1912_33007.jpg Combined image from microfilm. This is described well in The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects, page 47. Basically it involves applying a gradient to a layer mask. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 04:59:45 pm Sven Neumann wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 21:09 -0400, John Culleton wrote: On Monday 20 July 2009 07:00:08 pm Jernej Simončič wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:47:53 -0400, John Culleton wrote: The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is what should be included IMO. Should GIMP then also include matching GTK+ and GLib? And other mandatory dependencies? The hangup for many users is gegl and babl, and not the other requirements. The distros are more likely to include them. perhaps it is because gegl and babl are relatively new libraries, while the others have been with us for quite a while. Users don't build software from source. If you are building software yourself, then you are a developer. And you shouldn't really have a problem to compile these libraries then. If you have questions, you are of course free to ask them and we will try to help. But please don't ask us to simplify the build process in such awkward ways. The source tree is not aimed at users. Users should use whatever their distro offers. Sven Understood. However I find Gimp 2.6 better than 2.4, which is what the latest stable version of my distro offers. So I will continue to be a user who compiles. I must admit, compiling is becoming more difficult. Scribus uses cmake. Inkscape uses Automake and requires that you install Boehm-GC and Boost. The day of untar, ./configure, make and make install is apparently passing. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Are There Gimp Beginner Level Tutorials?
On Sunday 19 July 2009 04:22:39 pm laurenp...@aol.com wrote: I'm a beginner and need to learn the basics. If there are tutorials where can I find them? LNF There are lots of tutorials floating around, but I find the old book _Grokking the Gimp_ or the newer book _The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects_ the tutorials I look at most often. No, they aren't cheap. The complete manual is also available both for purchase and for download but it is more of a reference book, going 850 pages or so. If you Google on Gimp Tutorial you will get many answers but some are pretty obsolete (like 2002). -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Monday 20 July 2009 03:41:14 pm Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/20/2009 09:35 PM, John Culleton wrote: On Sunday 19 July 2009 05:13:06 am you wrote: On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote: IMO these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that. Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage of GEGL by other projects much more complicated, and we don't want that. A library shared between many apps will have much more development and maintenance than a library only used by a single app, so we should encourage usage of these libraries by other projects. / Martin I look at it from the point of view of the user, who just wants to install the program and get it running on his/her machine. If you just want to install gimp and run it, use the package manager that comes with your distro. By nature, building software can be quite complicated and is not intended for normal users. Also, please keep the discussion on-list. / Martin For Slack users the packages are usually a year or more old so we get in the habit of compiling from a more current tarball. Also, many packages are not included in the distros. Open Cobol is a good example. Everybody compiles it. Currently I am at Gimp 2.6.6 and I had to go through the gegl and babl stuff again (new computer). I see no compelling reason not to include the libs in the tarball. -- Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com For books on self-publishing please consult: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Monday 20 July 2009 05:25:12 pm Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/20/2009 11:20 PM, John Culleton wrote: I see no compelling reason not to include the libs in the tarball. What is so problematic about fetching the libs from ftp.gimp.org? That is certainly an improvement over searching the web. But go to the top of this thread and see the turmoil one user went through trying to get Gimp going. If you suggest we should have the actual babl and GEGL code in the GIMP tarball, this is a bad idea. babl and GEGL are version controlled in different git repos, and it is not an option to version control them in the GIMP repo. They are separate, self-contained libraries. / Martin The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is what should be included IMO. Presumably that is the version that is on gimp.org now. If e.g. Slackware can prepackage Gimp with all the required libraries it seems to me that the Gimp folks could do the same. But I guess we will have to disagree on this. Regards, -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Monday 20 July 2009 07:00:08 pm Jernej Simončič wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:47:53 -0400, John Culleton wrote: The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is what should be included IMO. Should GIMP then also include matching GTK+ and GLib? And other mandatory dependencies? The hangup for many users is gegl and babl, and not the other requirements. The distros are more likely to include them. perhaps it is because gegl and babl are relatively new libraries, while the others have been with us for quite a while. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] babl
On Saturday 18 July 2009 08:54:14 pm Greg S. wrote: Hi, when I use ./configure the message says at the end that can't find babl checking for BABL... configure: error: Package requirements (babl = 0.1.0) were not met: No package 'babl' found Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. does anyone have any suggestions please. You have to download, compile (?) and install the latest versions of babl and gegl. It is a royal pain but once it is done you are set for several upgrades, until Gimp requires a newer version. IMO these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format.
On Sunday 21 June 2009 05:52:00 am Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 21:35 +0200, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:
Seems a perfect solution, be it that in my case (Suse 11.1),
the first make fails with
*** Making html for en ...
/usr/bin/xsltproc \
--nonet \
--xinclude \
--stringparam l10n.gentext.default.language en \
-o html/en/ \
stylesheets/plainhtml.xsl \
xml/en/gimp.xml
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/xhtml/chunk.
xsl warning: failed to load external entity
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/xhtml/chunk
.xsl compilation error: file stylesheets/plainhtml.xsl line 8
element import xsl:import : unable to load
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/xhtml/chunk.
xsl make[1]: *** [html/en/index.html] Fout 5
The URL is accessable in a browser, so that's not the problem.
Any idea what that might be?
Your installation of the Docbook tools is incomplete. The make
rules explicitly disable the use of non-local style-sheets
(that's what --nonet does), so you need to have a complete
Docbook/XML installation locally.
Sven
My run seems to blow up on LaTeX code that presumes MSWIn.
I use Slackware 12.2.
Here are some of the error messages:
no support found for ifxetex
no support found for fontspec
no support found for xltxtra
no support found for fontenc
no support found for inputenc
no support found for fancybox
built-in module makeidx registered
no support found for docbook
no support found for unicode
portions omitted
gimp_tmp.tex:6847: Undefined control sequence \windows.
gimp_tmp.tex:6847: leading text: \nolinkurl{C:\windows\fonts}
gimp_tmp.tex:6847: Undefined control sequence \fonts.
gimp_tmp.tex:6847: leading text: \nolinkurl{C:\windows\fonts}
gimp_tmp.tex:6848: Undefined control sequence \winnt.
gimp_tmp.tex:6848: leading text: \nolinkurl{C:\winnt\fonts}
gimp_tmp.tex:6848: Undefined control sequence \fonts.
gimp_tmp.tex:6848: leading text: \nolinkurl{C:\winnt\fonts}
gimp_tmp.tex:9385: Undefined control sequence \Documents.
gimp_tmp.tex:9385: leading
text: ...nd~Settings\[Username]\.gimp-2.6\menurc}
gimp_tmp.tex:9385: Undefined control sequence \...@nil.
gimp_tmp.tex:9385: leading
text: ...nd~Settings\[Username]\.gimp-2.6\menurc}
gimp_tmp.tex:9385: Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after
line 9385.
gimp_tmp.tex: Emergency stop.
Here is my compile script, taken from Sven's post:
git clone --depth=0 git://git.gnome.org/gimp-help-2
cd gimp-help-2
./autogen.sh
LINGUAS=en make
LINGUAS=en make pdf-local
pdfinfo pdf/en/gimp.pdf
-
I can't find on my system gimp_tmp.tex referred to in the error
messages. Hence I can't patch the TeX code myself.
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to do this using GIMP
On Saturday 04 July 2009 05:50:11 pm Jozef Legény wrote: On Saturday 04 July 2009 23:06:55 Ashutosh S. wrote: Ashutosh S. wrote: I am new to GIMP can anybody tell me how to this in GIMP check the pic at http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7ZYqYi4xigk/SkuOtxD_GVI/D-s/m 4JhUHCC_Bw/s 1600-h/left_nav_compare.png Looks like they did two screen shots, (print screen), focused in on the items, cut them and pasted them to a new picture. But how they produced the shadow that too in 3d box effect, actually I searched a lot on the net to check what this process can be called but no clue, can anybody suggest You could use the path tool to create the boxes' edges. Then convert that path to selection and apply a gradient to that selection (all of this on a separate layer), the gradient would be from black to transparent. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user The shadow with the gradient could be created on a layer as a rectangle, then shaped to the two images using rotation and the perspective tool. I would apply the gradient as the last step. This layer would need to be between the normal label layer and the exploded label layer. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Convert gradients to smooth shades.
My favorite printer specifies the above. I am not sure exactly what is meant. In any case how do I assure this in Gimp? I have preserved gradients in a PDF 1.3 file through the workflow of: export to PDF 1.4, view in Acrobat Reader, print to a PS file, and then run ps2pdf13 (part of the Ghostview suite) but I am hoping that Gimp has a more straightforward approach. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] A new broken glass approach
I saw a book cover where a photo of some people was overlaid with a semi translucent layer with radiating cracks from a central point, something like the starburst effect but removing parts of the semi translucent layer instead of coloring them. A bullet hole in a dirty glass window is the net effect. I can diddle with this idea myself of course, but if someone has already done it I would appreciate a reference. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format.
On Thursday 18 June 2009 06:09:09 pm Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:05 -0400, Jay Smith wrote: I know nothing of the workflow that results in the current HTML manual format. It would seem to me that producing one or more other formats should come out of that same workflow. Indeed. The manual is written in Docbook/XML and you can get a variety of output formats from that source. If you checkout the gimp-help-2 repository from git.gnome.org (I suggest to do a shallow clone due to the immense size of the project), then you will get the Docbook/XML sources, the images and a build system that spits out HTML and optionally PDF or ODF. Here's what I did to get a PDF version of the english user manual: git clone --depth=0 git://git.gnome.org/gimp-help-2 cd gimp-help-2 ./autogen.sh LINGUAS=en make LINGUAS=en make pdf-local And to check the result: pdfinfo pdf/en/gimp.pdf Title: GNU Image Manipulation Program Subject: Keywords: Author: Creator:DBLaTeX-0.2.10-1 Producer: pdfTeX-1.40.3 CreationDate: Thu Jun 18 23:57:05 2009 ModDate:Thu Jun 18 23:57:05 2009 Tagged: no Pages: 849 Encrypted: no Page size: 595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4) File size: 39395416 bytes Optimized: no PDF version:1.4 Sven This is just what I was looking for! Thanks. Am I correct in assuming that setting depth=0 delivers just the latest version? -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format.
On Thursday 18 June 2009 06:09:09 pm Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:05 -0400, Jay Smith wrote: I know nothing of the workflow that results in the current HTML manual format. It would seem to me that producing one or more other formats should come out of that same workflow. Indeed. The manual is written in Docbook/XML and you can get a variety of output formats from that source. If you checkout the gimp-help-2 repository from git.gnome.org (I suggest to do a shallow clone due to the immense size of the project), then you will get the Docbook/XML sources, the images and a build system that spits out HTML and optionally PDF or ODF. Here's what I did to get a PDF version of the english user manual: git clone --depth=0 git://git.gnome.org/gimp-help-2 cd gimp-help-2 ./autogen.sh LINGUAS=en make LINGUAS=en make pdf-local And to check the result: pdfinfo pdf/en/gimp.pdf Title: GNU Image Manipulation Program Subject: Keywords: Author: Creator:DBLaTeX-0.2.10-1 Producer: pdfTeX-1.40.3 CreationDate: Thu Jun 18 23:57:05 2009 ModDate:Thu Jun 18 23:57:05 2009 Tagged: no Pages: 849 Encrypted: no Page size: 595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4) File size: 39395416 bytes Optimized: no PDF version:1.4 Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Addendum: you need to download and install DBLaTeX first. And have TeX of course. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format.
Is the Gimp online manual also available in another format? Currently I am printing out the html pages a small batch at a time. That's a tedious process. A printed version or even a version in a single electronic file would save a lot of time. A printed and bound version would be handier to use than a ring binder of 8.5 x 11 pages. Once I printed out the 880 pages of the Kylander Manual but that dated back to version 1 or thereabouts. That was as I recall in a single file. Therefore I could print it out using poor man's duplexing, (even pages first, then reload the paper stack and print odds.) -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format.
On Thursday 18 June 2009 11:05:44 am Jay Smith wrote: -Original Message- From: gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu [mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of John Culleton Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2009 11:36 PM To: Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format. Is the Gimp online manual also available in another format? Currently I am printing out the html pages a small batch at a time. That's a tedious process. A printed version or even a version in a single electronic file would save a lot of time. A printed and bound version would be handier to use than a ring binder of 8.5 x 11 pages. Once I printed out the 880 pages of the Kylander Manual but that dated back to version 1 or thereabouts. That was as I recall in a single file. Therefore I could print it out using poor man's duplexing, (even pages first, then reload the paper stack and print odds.) On 06/18/2009 10:40 AM, Michaela Baulderstone wrote: I agree! A PDF version would be fantastic Anyone interested in the job? I know nothing of the workflow that results in the current HTML manual format. It would seem to me that producing one or more other formats should come out of that same workflow. I cannot imagine the labor would be justified to do a one-time-only current-state PDF version that would be almost instantly out of date. That probably means that the authoring workflow and environment needs to be considered. This type of documentation is one of the prime beneficiaries of single-source, multiple-output authoring tools. I have not kept up on the current state of those tools and I am especially not aware of their status and capabilities in the open-source arena. However, I do know that there are a variety of approaches, each with their strengths and weaknesses. Jay ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user All manuals are out of date. The fact that a manual is instantly updateable does not guarantee that all sections will be fully updated concurrently with the latest stable Gimp. There are only so many skilled hands to do it. In terms of paper books I work primarily from _Grokking the Gimp_ (2000) and the newer but sill obsolete _Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects_ (2007). The html manual is the most up to date best we have at the moment, and represents a huge work effort on the part of many people. But even within its present constraints the html manual can be improved by renaming the html files for the beginning section covered in numeric order. Some are named that way but most are not. One segment of Chapter 3, six segments of chapter 5 and two each for chapters 11 and 12 are so named. The rest have descriptive names. An index would also help. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] print 2 pages to PDF file
On Saturday 13 June 2009 05:52:10 am Carusoswi wrote: So, if I import a multi-page pdf, all pages are imported as separate layers? How does one turn them into separate pages? Caruso On 06/12/09 04:32, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 18:14 -0400, James wrote: I have a 2 page PDF that I read into The Gimp and modified. Now I want to print is back out to PDF. I can only seem to print page 1 even though I said to print all pages. You imported the PDF pages as layers into a single image. And now you are printing the image, so only the upper layer is visible on the printout. You need to turn your layers into individual images and print them separately. Or turn off visibility of the upper layer so that the other page becomes visible, then print again. Sven Is there a way to combine two pdf files into one file? If you save layers individually following Sven's advice, then they become separate files. But unless you are doing more than you state, I would bring up the base file in Acrobat Reader and then print each page to file with different names of course. This gives you x number of separate Postscript files. Conversion back to pdf's is easily done with the Ghostscript script ps2pdf. An hpefully the text etc. is preserved as text and not as bitmaps. There are horses for courses and tools for tasks. Gimp is not primarily a pdf or ps tool. That area hasn't changed in years AFAIK. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.X manual
On Saturday 02 May 2009 04:19:02 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote: * John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com [05-02-09 11:42]: There is an online version of the 2.6 manual in html form. Is there a way to download the whole shebang in one step or must I download the individual files one at a time? You might try wget, wget -r -l 2 -p http://site/1.html see the man page for more comprehensive parameters. note: works for linux, you didn't provide your operating system software Thanks. I use Slackware Linux 12.2. Gimp 2.6.6 compiles OK after downloading and installing Babl and Gegl. -- John Culleton Check out: http//wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http//wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] 2.6.X manual
There is an online version of the 2.6 manual in html form. Is there a way to download the whole shebang in one step or must I download the individual files one at a time? -- John Culleton Check out: http//wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http//wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] PCD format density?
Gimp doesn't use PCD format. So I have been trying to convert a PCD image to something Gimp will use, such as tiff or jpg, using the convert program from Imagemagick. I have tried various density settings. Is there a default density to a PCD image? If so, what is it? -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Soft proofing in 2.6.5
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 03:12:38 pm you wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 08:16 -0500, John Culleton wrote: At this point the preferences menu under the files menu shows only the Units dialog. Huh? The Preferences dialog is located in the Edit menu (as suggested by the GNOME HIG). Sven Just checked my copy of 2.6.5 and there are preferences entries on both menus. Perhaps one could be renamed. Tomorrow I will check out the correct one. Thanks, -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Scanning into GIMP
On Monday 23 February 2009 02:07:16 pm norman wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 11:31 -0600, Rodney Clay wrote: I am new to using GIMP. Can I import images into GIMP from a scanner. If so what do I need to do to set up to do this. I have looked in the online manual but did not find an answer to my question. Speaking from experience and running Ubuntu 8.10 and a compatible scanner, in Gimp File - Create - XSane - Device dialogue. Ubuntu has all the software you need already installed. Norman On Slackware you may need to add your user id to the group scanner. Here is the line from file /etc/groups referencing my user name safe: scanner:x:93:root,safe -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Gimp latest version
On Friday 16 January 2009 11:42:42 am phanisvara das wrote: On Friday 16 January 2009 21:52:41 Cristian Secară wrote: My comment was related to „the easiest way would be to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10” statement, given as a solution to be able to use a newer version of an application (no matter which). This is something I consider to be exaggerated. depends. it took me several hours to install GIMP 2.6.4 on openSUSE 11.0, because upto now the OS repositories offer GIMP 2.4 librariies only. had to install a bunch of dependencies, compile some of them, and change libraries that openSUSE was using by default. if the latest (stable) GIMP version is supported in a newer version of ubuntu, it seems to make more sense to spend the time upgrading to that OS version, since most likely that will be done sooner or later anyway, than fiddling around with dependencies in the older OS version... phani. I live in a Slackware world and not a Debian world. To use 2.6.x Gimp means installing gegl and to install gegl requires that one install babl. I have tried various editions of gegl, from 0,18 to 0.22 and svn. They give me the same error: In file included from gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c:26: gegl-tile-backend.h:39: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'Babl' gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c: In function 'gio_entry_read': gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c:76: error: 'GeglTileBackend' has no member named 'tile_size' gegl-tile-backend-tiledir.c: In function 'gio_entry_write': So now I assume the problem lies in babl. I will have to experiment with various versions of babl until I find one that works with gegl, and then find a version of gegl that works with Gimp 2.6.4. If the Gimp source distro contained a compatible version of gegl and babl then compiling from source would be a lot easier. Now my only other choice is to install Ubuntu or whatever on another partition and see if they have an updated binary Gimp available. That is a lot of work and a lot of time also. -- John Culleton Precision Typesetting Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] ftp address for 2.6.1 rpm
Attempts to download gimp 2.6.1 into Debian Lenny resulted in 2.4.7. I don´t know how to fake it out further. So I went back to Slackware, which takes a lot of fussing but usually can be worked out with successive downloads/compiles of all the library bits and pieces. I succeeded with downloading/making/installing latest babl and glib. but this gimp 2.6.1 effort halted when the make of gegl stalled with this error: -- In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdkspawn.h:26, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdk.h:52, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:31, from gegl.c:43: /usr/local/include/glib-2.0/glib/gspawn.h:22:2: error: #error Only glib.h can be included directly. make[2]: *** [gegl.o] Error 1 -- gspawn.h is of course in various include directories. So now I am down to my third option, download a rpm or other precompiled version of 2.6.1 and try to install that. When I ftp to ftp.gimp.org I find source files but not the precompiled versions. Obviously I am not looking in the right places. Can someone give me a pointer? John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ftp address for 2.6.1 rpm
On Saturday 18 October 2008 11:56:08 am Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 10:21 -0400, John Culleton wrote: So I went back to Slackware, which takes a lot of fussing but usually can be worked out with successive downloads/compiles of all the library bits and pieces. I succeeded with downloading/making/installing latest babl and glib. but this gimp 2.6.1 effort halted when the make of gegl stalled with this error: -- In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdkspawn.h:26, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdk.h:52, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:31, from gegl.c:43: /usr/local/include/glib-2.0/glib/gspawn.h:22:2: error: #error Only glib.h can be included directly. The gegl binary won't build with a brand-new GLib but an older copy of GTK+. This is fixed in SVN. But to get the tarball compiled you need to either downgrade glib or upgrade gtk+. Sven Thanks as always. Fixed in a Gimp svn or a gegl svn? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.6.0
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 02:56:41 pm Sven Neumann wrote: Finally we have done it and released version 2.6.0 of the GNU Image Manipulation Program. The changes from version 2.4 are best described in the release notes on http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html If you want to compile GIMP 2.6 yourself, you can grab the tarball from ftp.gimp.org or one of its mirrors: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.6/ Please note that there was a glitch in the 2.6.0 tarball on the FTP server that was corrected after a few hours. If in doubt, you can use the following information to check that you have the fixed tarball: filename: gimp-2.6.0.tar.bz2 size: 15897821 bytes MD5 sum: e5ac955fee8b376d431e4693027d7640 I note in the explanation that there is no mention of using CMYK color model, beyond what is already available in the preview feature. Is manipulation in the CMYK model in the works for some time in the future? Does the move to GEGL smooth the path to CMYK in some way? -- John Culleton Precision Typesetting Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] printing only blue
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:20:47 am Torsten Neuer wrote: Hello, Am Dienstag, 23. September 2008 10:36:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen: My printer has a stuck blue nozzle and I am trying to clean it. Of the blue, yellow, red, and black cartridges, I want to only print from the blue. I tried to configure a blue-255 colour and the rest 0, however the printed image still uses a bit from the red cartridge as the choice of colours differ from those in Gimp. What colour could I configure, that would translate to blue only from the printer? Printers are normally CMYK, not RGB. That is why ff will also utilize the other cartridges of the printer, not only cyan. You will therefore have to select 100% C from CMYK colourspace in order to only print from the C cartridge - which is a bit awkward in Gimp, since the program has no direct CMYK support. Nevertheless, you can do so with the colour selector (get to the printer colour selection mode for CMYK colours). The colour will be translated to RGB 00... HTH Torsten ImageMagick will convert from rgb to cmyk after saving the file from Gimp. If the above RGB 00 is used then it should convert to Cyan (not exactly blue.) -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Language switch for ./configure
I would guess that 95% of Gimp users are effectively monoglots. They only use Gimp with reference to a single language. That said, it would speed up configure and compile time if there was a switch that specified the language to be used at that site. The compile/install time and disk space needed for the many alternatives could be eliminated. Just my thought for today. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problem with installing 2.5.2
On Monday 18 August 2008 02:35:51 am you wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:53 -0400, John Culleton wrote: Is there a way to bypass this part of gegl? All I want is the parts that Gimp 2.5.2 needs. Documentation wouldn't seem to be critical. ./configure --help You will notice that there's a --disable-docs option. Have you tried to use that? Sven OK I did that and after updating a bunch of libraries Gimp 2.5.2 compiles and starts. But when I open the default document it shows up black. When from the Color menu I select invert the program crashes. I recognize that it is a development version. Still this is a bit discouraging. -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problem with installing 2.5.2
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 10:03:52 am Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 18 August 2008 02:35:51 am you wrote: Where does the you come from? You will notice that there's a --disable-docs option. Have you tried to use that? There have been segfaults when GEGL was used to process the demo images in the docs directory, and thus... OK I did that and after updating a bunch of libraries Gimp 2.5.2 compiles and starts. But when I open the default document it shows up black. ... it should IMO first be verified that GEGL does work at all, e.g. by running the gegl executable and checking what does happen then. HTH, Michael Well I have deinstalled 2.5.2 and gone back to 2.4.5. I hope the value added by the gegl package is worth the extra install effort and the greater risk for failure. What pressing need does it address? -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Problem with installing 2.5.2
2.5.2 requires gegl. so I downloaded the gegle source and did a ./configure and then a make. At the very end of the gegl make I got the folllowing bunch of errors: make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/local/gegl-0.0.18/docs/gallery' --[Updating sample compositions]-- ./OpenRaster-00.xml /bin/sh: line 1: 11149 Segmentation fault GEGL_DEBUG_TIME=yes GEGL_SWAP=RAM GEGL_PATH=../../operations ../../bin/gegl OpenRaster-00.xml -o `echo OpenRaster-00.png | sed s?./??` `echo OpenRaster-00.png | sed s?./?? | sed -e s/png/txt/` make[5]: *** [OpenRaster-00.png] Error 139 ./OpenRaster-01.xml /bin/sh: line 1: 11182 Segmentation fault GEGL_DEBUG_TIME=yes GEGL_SWAP=RAM GEGL_PATH=../../operations ../../bin/gegl OpenRaster-01.xml -o `echo OpenRaster-01.png | sed s?./??` `echo OpenRaster-01.png | sed s?./?? | sed -e s/png/txt/` make[5]: *** [OpenRaster-01.png] Error 139 ./OpenRaster-04.xml /bin/sh: line 1: 11210 Segmentation fault GEGL_DEBUG_TIME=yes GEGL_SWAP=RAM GEGL_PATH=../../operations ../../bin/gegl OpenRaster-04.xml -o `echo OpenRaster-04.png | sed s?./??` `echo OpenRaster-04.png | sed s?./?? | sed -e s/png/txt/` make[5]: *** [OpenRaster-04.png] Error 139 ./clones.xml /bin/sh: line 1: 11238 Segmentation fault GEGL_DEBUG_TIME=yes GEGL_SWAP=RAM GEGL_PATH=../../operations ../../bin/gegl clones.xml -o `echo clones.png | sed s?./??` `echo clones.png | sed s?./?? | sed -e s/png/txt/` make[5]: *** [clones.png] Error 139 make[4]: *** [images.stamp] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gegl-0.0.18/docs/gallery' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gegl-0.0.18/docs/gallery' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gegl-0.0.18/docs' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gegl-0.0.18' make: *** [all] Error 2 Is there a way to bypass this part of gegl? All I want is the parts that Gimp 2.5.2 needs. Documentation wouldn't seem to be critical. Slackware 12.1 -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Is CMYK off the table for Gimp?
A book by MIchael J. Hammel, _The Artist's Guide to Gimp Effects_, published in 2007, states that the next release of Gimp is scheduled to offer the CMYK color model. But that seems not to have occurred, alsthough there is a CMYK preview mode. Is CMYK color model off the agenda for Gimp? It has been under discussion for years.Other Open Source products, such as Krita and Scribus, will work in that model. but they lack the capabilities of Gimp. So is there any hope? -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Postscript output
On Monday 12 November 2007 01:52:38 pm norman wrote: When you create a postscript document it always defaults to offsets of 0.5 millimeters and measurements in metric. If I change these factors to zero offsets and inches then Gimp retains these for the session but each new session starts again with the original defaults. Once upon a time I patched some source code to fix the above defaults to something more sensible for my use but this is a bore to do for each successive version of Gimp. Is there a way to get Gimp to save these particular defaults from session to session? The metric vs. inch choice is of course a matter of nationality but the offsets simply have no purpose that I can see. Is there not a button which says print and save? Norman Yes but on the next run and the next document I must eliminate the offsets and change the default measure to inches, and the next session the same and on and on I want the PostScript offset setups to default to zero, or alternatively a way to store my prference for offsets, not just for the current document but for any document. The default offsets of 0.5 cm are hard coded in Gimp. As I said before I have tracked down the code and changed that program module in the past. But each new release I would have to do the same thing. And Gimp compiles are very lengthy. I just ask for someone to change the code in the repository one time. As for inches versus metric I can change that in the lower left hand corner of an image window and that setting continues for the session. But the PostScript output routine ignores that setting and always defaults to cm. -- John Culleton Resources for every author and publisher: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Postscript output
When you create a postscript document it always defaults to offsets of 0.5 millimeters and measurements in metric. If I change these factors to zero offsets and inches then Gimp retains these for the session but each new session starts again with the original defaults. Once upon a time I patched some source code to fix the above defaults to something more sensible for my use but this is a bore to do for each successive version of Gimp. Is there a way to get Gimp to save these particular defaults from session to session? The metric vs. inch choice is of course a matter of nationality but the offsets simply have no purpose that I can see. -- John Culleton Precision Typesetting Able Indexers and Typesetters http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] 2.4 rc3 and CMYK
Is there a good document such as a wiki article that describes the enhanced CMYK capabilities of Gimp 2.4? -- John Culleton Want to know what I really think? http://apps.wexfordpress.net/blog/ And my must-read (free) short list: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 rc3 and CMYK
On Tuesday 23 October 2007 12:13:56 pm Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 10:21 -0400, John Culleton wrote: Is there a good document such as a wiki article that describes the enhanced CMYK capabilities of Gimp 2.4? There are no enhanced CMYK capabilities in GIMP 2.4. Working in CMYK colorspace is still not supported. Understood. But isn't there a recent feature that allows one to preview in the restricted gamut of cmyk? I forget what it is called. -- John Culleton Want to know what I really think? http://apps.wexfordpress.net/blog/ And my must-read (free) short list: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:56:04 am Leon Brooks GIMP wrote: On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: I've been messing with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) and it installed RC3 from the start. It seems to have enough packages to keep Feisty happy, is even small enough to download over dialup in an afternoon. I'll dpkg this shortly. I might get pitched off-line shortly by SWMBO, but if not, I'll let you know how it went. Cheers; Leon Most Linux distros (Ubuntu is an exception) come with the necessary software tools to download a source tarball, configure, compile and install it. That is what I did. Slackware means you never have to wait for a deb or an rpm :). But users of most other distros can do the same if they are in a hurry for Gimp 2.4rc3. -- John Culleton Want to know what I really think? http://apps.wexfordpress.net/blog/ And my must-read (free) short list: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] 2.4 rc3
Just downloaded, compiled and installed 2.4 rc3. The user interface is much improved over the 2.3 series. Congratulations to those who built it. -- John Culleton Want to know what I really think? http://apps.wexfordpress.net/blog/ And my must-read (free) short list: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2.2 on Linux Slackware-Current.
Slackware is one of the oldest and most conservative Linux distros. Upgrading Gimp on Slackware has always been a frustrating proposition. The libraries keep changing for one thing. Happily Slackware-Current, which will be Slackware 10.1 when all the bugs are shaken out, has Gimp 2.2.2. Haven't checked on the Gimp help files yet. Previous Slacware releases always missed including them because they are treated as a separate entity in the world of Gimp. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp on Slackware 10/Slackware Current.
I tried compiling the most recent Gimp (2.2.2) from source but encountered too many mysterious problems. I updated glib and Gtk+ and pango and so on from the Slackware current distro but it still wouldn't fly. So next I tried to install Gimp 2.2.0 from Slackware current. This is not the latest, but more recent than what comes with Slack 10 (2.0.2). When I attempt to execute Gimp I get the error message: --- error while loading shared libraries: libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I cannot find a file like this in the package inventory for Slack current. So, any Gimp users out there that would like to give me a hint? I can always use Knoppix for my Gimp jobs but Slack is a lot faster :( -- John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Printed help.
The help manual for gimp is in html form which is unhandy for taking into the reading room :) Has anyone produced either a text or a pdf version of the entire help manual? I can do it with cut and paste or a conversion program but that is a lot of work because of the multiple files involved. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help now works.
I downloaded the precompiled version of Gimp 2.0.6 from the Slackware-current archives, downloaded the 2.0.6 help files, installed them and now Gimp has help files, including a limited amount of context-sensitive help. Hooray! The default help-browser is Mozilla, which is a royal pain. I frequently have multiple browser windows open at the same time. Mozilla has this huge roadblock where you have to fire up a different profile for each instance of the browser. So I will switch my default help browser to Konqueror which has no such impediment. I wrote to the Mozilla folks on this issue but they seem dazzled by the brilliance of their creation, and never mind what the users want or need. I also downloaded the 2.2 tarball but immediately found myself in the library chasing game. So I will hold off on that version until the Slackware folks offer a precompiled edition. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?
On Saturday 11 December 2004 19:32, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also cannot understand the reason behind not integrating the help files with Gimp. We did so in the past and it was a nightmare to maintain. Development on gimp-help works a lot better since it is decoupled from GIMP releases. For the end user who's using some sort of package management system or an installer, there's no difference anyway. The help files get installed with the GIMP packages. As it happens, Slackware and Knoppix (some versions) have Gimp but the help files are not included. Either the maintainers of these distros don't know about the separate help files or they can't figure out how to install them. (Neither can I.) I will inquire in the appropriate lists. Is there a Linux distro anywhere that preinstalls the help files with Gimp? -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?
On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:11, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have downloaded the latest help file. Befor I untar it, where is it supposed to go? Or more particularly, where is it supposed to be when I untar it? Just untar them and read the installation instructions in the file INSTALL. OK the instructions say run ./configure and ./configure fails because it can't find a file called gimp-2.0 pc. I searched my disks (several versions of Gimp laying around) and no such file exists. The ./configure run also says: couldn't find a Gimp-2.0 installation. There are about three laying around. So, back to my original question. Where should I try to untar the Gimp help tarball? I don't want to muck up a functioning Gimp installation by untarring them in the wrong location. Perhaps I am using the wrong tarball. When you go to the site and look for help files all you can find is a directory called test or testing which holds about 5 different versions of help files. I picked out the most recent one, 2.05 The best solution of course would be to have the help files integrated with the Gimp package itself. That is the way most packages work. Failing that, a help tarball in parallel to the current stable version and with explicit instructions on installation (i.e. where) would be most helpful. I suppose I will have to go to a Knoppix disk and figure out where the help files go from its internal structure. Oh well. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Where to put help?
I have downloaded the latest help file. Befor I untar it, where is it supposed to go? Or more particularly, where is it supposed to be when I untar it? It would be very nice if the help files were integrated with the Gimp distribution, and matched that distro feature for feature. While searching my disk I find that I have several Gimp versions, one of which is in /usr/local/usr/share. Obviously I untarred that puppy in the wrong location. Hence my question above. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Reducing pixels per inch
I have a large photograph that I cropped and then reduced in size. But when I do that the pixels per inch goes up. How do I reduce an image in size yet keep the pixels per inch at e.g., 90? I scanned at 50 PPI (the lowest Xsane will do.) But when I reduce it to roughly half size by resizing the image image-scale image the PPI shoots up to 164. If I reset the resolution to 90 then the dimensions go up. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Shrinking Photos.
On Wednesday 24 November 2004 12:05, John N. Alegre wrote: On Wednesday 24 November 2004 10:02, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: If you want to change the print size, you just have to change the DPI settings. On gimp 2.2 there is a new print size dialog that doesn't change the pixel data at all. Up to gimp 2.0, you have to Scale the Image, but be sure that the number of Pixels doesn't change. Let's see if I got this right. On the Scale Image dialog, I change the size but not the resolution, correct?? And how does one uncouple these two parameters? When I change one the other changes. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] CMYK and Postscript output.
I note that the newest version of Gimp will allow for vector layers in some way. This is a very positive step. But I haven't heard about CMYK color model lately. Since my major use is in preparing materials for print this would not be a step but a leap forward. Are there plans for anything new on the CMYK front? Ideally (for printers) Gimp would output a postscript or even a pdf file using vectors instead of bitmaps and with colors expressed in cmyk terms. Is such a capability on the drawing board yet? -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] install probs
On Friday 11 June 2004 11:11, squareyes wrote: Hi all, I had Gimp 2 up and running (from gimp-2.0.0-richard.1mdk.i586.rpm) on Mandrake 10, which was installed as an update from Man 9.1. Installed Gimp 2.0 with no probs, but have since had to reformat. Installed Mandrake 10 as a fresh install, now am having probs getting Gimp 2 to install from same rpm. Keep getting Installation failed, some files are missing: /mnt/cdrom/gimp-2.0.0-richard.1mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database Installed urpmi.setup to try and update, have no idea what I am doing, as it seems to want to update the 4 Mandrake install disks, which is not possible. Have tried copying rpm to hard drive and installing from there, same. Tried the rpm from Mandrake cooker site, and get this error message. Some package requested cannot be installed: gimp2_0-2.0.1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0) do you agree ? As I am unsatisfied most of the time I had to agree :-) What is a libgimpwidget?, which ones do I need?, where would I get them?, and if I can get them, what do I do with them? (without being rude :-) ) Sorry I am a rank beginner here. Any helpfull suggestions would be most gratefully accepted. Many thanks in advance, Take Care Winton Have you considered just uninstalling Gimp, downloading Gimp from the web site and installing it yourself? This means stepping out of the world of RPMs but that is not a fatal thing. You can unzip and untar the downloaded file with one command tar zxvf (name of file.) Then follow the instructions that come with. Frequently it is easier to sidestep a complex problem as opposed to debugging it in the entrails of the system. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] attaching ICC color profiles
On Thursday 20 May 2004 10:40 am, William Skaggs wrote: Following up on some discussion here a while back, I have set up a simple way to add an ICC profile to an image in Gimp if you have the .icc file. It uses the MetaData plug-in I put together a little while ago; see: http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4013 Continuing on the same theme: The new DTP program Scribus handles ICC profiles and will work in CMYK natively. There is a companion package LittleCMS that does much of the profile work. I wonder if there is potential for integrating LittleCMS in some way into Gimp? And which of the standard Gimp file formats have the potential for conversion to CMYK model? It seems that Tiff, Postscript and PDF file formats can be created or converted to CMYK (but not by Gimp yet.) What about PNM, PNG and JPG? Are they inherently RPG or can CMYK versions of the same file format be produced outside of Gimp? -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp and web site design.
I found the comments below from a friend of mine on another list provaocative. She is not a Gimp user. I wonder how many of her cautions are universal and how many just dependent on the program used to create the graphics? -quote begins--- I visit lots of authors' sites and see many that are gorgeous. The thing that always tips me off as to whether they're professionally done or not is the graphics. I cannot stand jagged edges around images, banners, etc. Even the most inexperienced designer can clean that up and do it properly at low resolution, so, I guess it's not so much that it's a sign of being an amateur - to me anyway - that it's a sign of not caringlack of pride in the work. Even if a person simply cannot create clean edges (one of the most common mistakes is using tansparent on a layer - transparent doesn't work..you need to use the background colour as the background colour on the image around any curved lines. Also that delete background rarely gives a clean lift - that all needs to be erased one pixel at a time.) they can go with text only, or visit one of the 1000s of sites that offer free web tools, or avoid curved edges (in most cases jaggies are only an issue around curved edges). Round buttons only look nice if they're done properly. Square (with no transparency and no background) and text buttons work just as well and will give a more polished look. I'm not a web designer by any means, so maybe those on the group who are can offer more insight into this. ---end quote BTW I have permission to quote the above from the author. -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Xsane again.
On Thursday 06 May 2004 06:51 am, Jean-Luc wrote: The latest version of xsane (0.93) has the gimp-2.0 support -- - jean-Luc I dwonloaded, unpacked, configured and ran make. Got this error message: /usr/lib/libgimp.so: undefined reference to `PLUG_IN_INFO' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [xsane] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/xsane-0.93/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Hints? (xsane 0.92 compiled OK) -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Xsane again.
I went to the Xsane site, attempted to apply the Gimp 2.x patch, and moved Xsane to a directory where Gimp 2.0 can find it. However Gimp still gives me a message that Xsane does not have Gimp support compiled in. Now if the rest of the world has had success with this patch I will try the cycle all over again. But my instinct is that I should wait until the Xsane guy gets around to applying the patch to the CVS files or whatever so I don't have to fool with it. Patches are not my best friend. So--- anyone having success with incorporating Xsane into Gimp 2.x as a plugin? Sven wrote one of the patches so he is probably a success story. Anyone else? -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Installing on FedoraCore 1
On Sunday 02 May 2004 06:45 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, There's no xsane-gimp package for gimp-2.0 yet and you don't need gimp-print-plugin for gimp-2.0. So the solution to your problem is to either keep gimp-1.2 installed and install gimp-2.0 in parallel or deinstall xsane-gimp and gimp-print-plugin. I tried the patch to Xsane published on the Xsane site but Gimp still says Xsane is is not Gimp-enabled. So I am scanning separately, which is a bore. (Keeping both versions of Gimp around and remembering their differing rules woould be an even bigger bore. ) -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Postscript grumps
On Monday 12 April 2004 12:50 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far, all you need seems to resolve if the plug-in can just remember the last values used. I will see for that. Meanwhile, feel free to check http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138583 and add your comments - it is were I am keeping track of the enhancements I plan to make for the postscript plug-in. Noted. I am even willing to hard code a different set of default values if that is available. None of your enhancement solve the real problem here which is that Postscript is the wrong file format. GIMP will never be able to handle Postscript files good enough that one would attempt to use GIMP to open and manipulate them. With your changes, GIMP will be able to create better Postscript files, but that still doesn't make Postscript the right format for storing scanned image data. Perhaps it would be better to remove that kludge of calling GS to be able to open Postscript files and make the postscript plug-in write-only. Way too many users are tricked into believing that GIMP would be able to manipulate Postscript files. Well, I use Gimp and its Postscript plug-in in the following manner: A. I scan a page of music with Xsane, saving the result as .ps. B. I bring the page into Gimp with my favorite valuesb (see earlier post.) C. I modify the image with Gimp doing things like: 1. Cut and paste. 2. Resize page. 3. Rotate the page a fraction of a degree to correct for misalignment. 4. Adjust curve to minimize gray areas caused by the book not lying flat on the scanner. D. I save the result with zero offset as an eps image. Now I could of course scan to an pnm or png image instead of Postscript. (I could still save as Postscript from Gimp.) Which would be preferable for input to Gimp, pnm or png? (In earlier Gimps I could of course scan directly from Xsane into Gimp but this option disappeared with Gimp 1.3/2.0 and an early reappearance seems unlikely. ) The resulting EPS file will eventually be combined with other files of a similar nature using TeX and PSUtils to set up a booklet. For years I have used plain TeX and the EPS format. If I change to pdftex then my format choices are (currently) pdf, png, and jpeg. My library of several hundred scanned pages would have to be converted to pdf. As a point of interest, some pages in my workflow are not scanned but are created by the mup music typesetting program. These are also in PostScript form. Since they are true typeset PostScript and not a bitmapped image they are about 10% as large as the comparable scanned image presented as a ps file. To summarize, I can scan to png or pnm instead of PostScript and import that into Gimp. But I need eps output for my present method. If I switch to pdftex then I could utilize png output. Are there advantages to using e.g., png throughout? -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Postscript grumps
On Saturday 10 April 2004 12:05 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, I strongly suggest you change your workflow. If you want to edit scanned images, then don't use Postscript. If you need to edit PS, then use a tool that handles Postscript. GIMP is the wrong tool here. I can of course import files from a scan as pnm or png, but i sitll need to save them as PostScript. My other software (plain TeX) needs that format. See my other posts on the subject. -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Re: Re: Monitor for Gimp
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 03:52 pm, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 31.03.2004 22:29, John Culleton a écrit : On Wednesday 31 March 2004 01:34 pm, GSR - FR wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-03-31 at 2011.13 +0200): [.. destructive compression ..] I am busy window shopping on Ebay etc. If the monitor has an adjustment for color temperature is that the equivalent of adjustable gamma? Or are they different parameters? No, it is an other thing. There are 4 important parameters: - white point and black point, both are adjusted with brightness and contrast settings - colour temperature: a tungstene light has a colour temperature of about 3200K, a flash lamp gives you a colour temperature of about 5500K, sunny daylight is about 6500K. With high colour temperatures, the colour cast is blueish, with low colout temperature, it is redish. Normal office work dispaly uses color temperature as high as 9300K. For photography, 6500K is better. - gamma : this is the non linear function transfer of the brightness given by the display as a function of the pixel value. So how do I determine which monitors, if any can have adjustable Gamma? BTW I specified 3.0 gamma in my XF86Config file but I can spot no difference in the test files. So my current Orion monitor (17) does not seem to adjust. -- - Jean-Luc -- John Culleton -- John Culleton Able Typesetters and Indexers http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
