Chris Mohler wrote:
1 - The majority of GIMP users do not find the acronym GIMP offensive.
I actually have no problems with the name GIMP, nor do I care if the
authors choose to change the name, just as long as it doesn't happen often.
2 - US citizens do not have a world-wide right to make all
Manish Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote (in reply to Alan Horkan):
So Alan, before you make anymore posts relating to this topic again, you
need to make a non-trivial contribution to GIMP yourself to justify all
the time you are wasting here.
Yosh has decided that Alans posts to this list will
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:23:14AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote:
Manish Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote (in reply to Alan Horkan):
So Alan, before you make anymore posts relating to this topic again, you
need to make a non-trivial contribution to GIMP yourself to justify all
the time you are
Brendan wrote:
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:05, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 06:54 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:05, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 06:54 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the
On Friday 29 September 2006 15:10, Geoffrey wrote:
I've also not heard anyone use the term gimp in the way you indicate in
a very long time. And I don't believe that's because people are more
politically correct these days. I think it's a term that just isn't
used in this way any longer.
Brendan wrote:
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:05, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 06:54 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 10:02:17PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Alan Horkan wrote:
BTW, there seems to be something broken with Marc's messages.
From: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although they are sent to the list...
Cc:
Owen Berry wrote:
On 9/30/06, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lameness: disability of walking due to crippling of the legs or feet
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Agimp
This is the commonly understood meaning of the word for most English
speakers and it is considered derogatory,
On Sunday 01 October 2006 05:15, Christoph Sturm wrote:
On 10/1/06, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
please also explain the reason that you target GIMP and not some of the
other perhaps better funded names of products that are as or more
offensive than this one here?
can you give an
Alan Horkan wrote:
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Geoffrey wrote:
Not really a product per se, but I'd say you nailed it.
Personally, I would never be caught dead in a Hooters. Your example
leads me to believe you'd equate the quality of GIMP users with the
quality of Hooter's clientele. Maybe that
Raphaël Quinet wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:00:25 -0500, Eric P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I think the name should change not because I find GIMP
derogatory but because I think a name that somewhat
identified (even vaguely) what sphere the software is used it would be a
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:39:46AM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
As I said before offering to accept patches which made it possible to
rebrand the gimp in a clean maintainable way without the need to fork
could bring this dicussion to screeching halt until someone shows some
code. Isn't that
On 10/1/06, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
please also explain the reason that you target GIMP and not some of the
other perhaps better funded names of products that are as or more
offensive than this one here?
can you give an example of such a product?
regards
chris
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Chris Mohler wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:36:37 -0500
From: Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
[...]
I do not believe that GIMP should be renamed. Anyone who takes
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Marc Lehmann wrote:
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:39:46AM +0100, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Is there?
Yes.
I didn't see any evidence for that yet.
You have not disproved it exists, you just choose not to see it.
It is not surprising non-native English
Alan Horkan wrote:
BTW, there seems to be something broken with Marc's messages.
From: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although they are sent to the list...
Cc: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
...they don't seem to appear there.
Maybe someone could clear
Manish Singh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:38:02PM -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
can you proove your claim?
Sigh. Try googling is gimp a derogatory term. If you read the
sources at the first 10 hits and you still don't understand, then try
the next 15000.
If I search for the string is
Steve Bibayoff wrote:
Hello,
On 9/29/06, Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
[...]If you can point out a single commercial product that
has mass use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
Yahoo
I'll withdraw my critique and be gone.
:-)
How about the Macon
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Roland Hordos wrote:
If you can point out a single commercial product that has
mass use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
I'll withdraw my critique and be gone.
Hooters the restaurant.
--
Until later, Geoffrey
Those who would give up
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Carol Spears wrote:
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:28:44 -0700
From: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED],
GIMPUser Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:39
Eric P wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Roland Hordos wrote:
If you can point out a single commercial product that has mass
use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
I'll withdraw my critique and be gone.
Hooters the restaurant.
Not really a product
On 9/30/06, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lameness: disability of walking due to crippling of the legs or feet
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Agimp
This is the commonly understood meaning of the word for most English
speakers and it is considered derogatory, like calling someone
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Geoffrey wrote:
Not really a product per se, but I'd say you nailed it.
Personally, I would never be caught dead in a Hooters. Your example
leads me to believe you'd equate the quality of GIMP users with the
quality of Hooter's clientele. Maybe that wasn't your
] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:39:46AM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
As I said before offering to accept patches which made it possible to
rebrand the gimp in a clean maintainable way without the need to fork
could bring this dicussion to screeching halt
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, yves wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:38:23 -0700
From: yves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Alan Horkan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
Can somebody explain what is 'wrong' with that name?
Yves
lameness: disability of walking due
Actually to me giving the name GIMP to the first free software end user
application foremost strengthens people's prejudges that open source software
is unprofessional and mostly targeted at immature adolescents. Come on, it's
not even clever, it's like naming an end user app something like
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Alan Horkan wrote:
This is the commonly understood meaning of the word for most English
speakers and it is considered derogatory, like calling someone a cripple.
While the term gimp may be disparagingly used when referring to a
PERSON, that does not make the word itself
On Friday 29 September 2006 20:33, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Roland Hordos wrote:
If you can point out a single commercial product that has
mass use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
I'll withdraw my critique and be gone.
Spam.
Both sorts.
Coke, which means
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Sven Neumann wrote:
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:32:04 +0200
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
Hi
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, [ISO-8859-1] Raphaël Quinet wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:00:25 -0500, Eric P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Personally, I think the name should change not because I find GIMP
derogatory but because I think a name that somewhat identified (even
vaguely) what sphere the
On 9/30/06, Saul Goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Alan Horkan wrote:
This is the commonly understood meaning of the word for most English
speakers and it is considered derogatory, like calling someone a cripple.
While the term gimp may be disparagingly used when referring
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 06:54:48AM -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the name. If someone who can champion this
task reads this,
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Marc Lehmann wrote:
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:07:13 +0200
From: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 05:06:44PM +0100
Hi,
Whileall
othercredible opensource projects are gaining ground in a professional IT
setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the instant derogatory impact of
the name. If someone who can champion this task reads this, please humble
yourself for the sake of this amazing software that
Hi list,
in addition, can we change the default colors to read african-american
and caucasian?
thanks
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On Friday 29 September 2006 09:38, Jakub Steiner wrote:
Hi list,
in addition, can we change the default colors to read african-american
and caucasian?
thanks
No because not all B---k people are American. and not all
Africans are B---k. To suggest either would be entirely too
chauvinistic.
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Roland Hordos wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
From: Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
Hi,
While all other credible opensource
Roland Hordos wrote:
Hi,
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the name. If someone who can champion
this task reads this, please humble yourself for the sake of
: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Roland Hordos wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
From: Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject
On Friday 29 September 2006 13:48, Roland Hordos wrote:
Hi Alan,
Thanks for an intelligent and articulate response. I suspected the
disconnect with reality, bringing me to post to the users list first
instead of the developers'. Being a software developer and contributor
to other open
Hi,
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 06:54 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the name.
First of all, it's called GIMP, not the GIMP.
Then, can
Alan Horkan wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Roland Hordos wrote:
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
From: Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
Hi,
While all other credible
John R. Culleton wrote:
Bottom line, I thought the name Gimp a bit lame when I first
heard it but now it falls trippingly from my tongue.
When I hear it in the context of software, I think of GIMP, not the
'word' gimp.
--
Until later, Geoffrey
Those who would give up essential Liberty,
Cc: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
Hi,
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 06:54 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because
* Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-29-06 15:12]:
Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in
a professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back in the
English speaking world because of the instant derogatory impact of
the name. Gimp is a term in
Selon Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the name. If someone who can champion this
task reads this, please humble
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 12:38 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
can you proove your claim?
Sigh. Try googling is gimp a derogatory term. If you read the
sources at the first 10 hits and you still don't understand, then try
the next 15000.
Hi Roland,
what Sven possibly meant here was for you to
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:38:02PM -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
can you proove your claim?
Sigh. Try googling is gimp a derogatory term. If you read the
sources at the first 10 hits and you still don't understand, then try
the next 15000.
That is not proof.
Search for just plain gimp on
Jakub Steiner wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 12:38 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
what Sven possibly meant here was for you to prove that the name GIMP is
a reason why the product isn't used in a professional IT setting,
whatever that is. I have been using GIMP professionally for over 5 years
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the name. If someone who can champion this
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimpI personally don't care either way.Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600"Roland Hordos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a professional IT setting, the
Hi,
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 12:38 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back in the English
speaking world because of the instant derogatory impact of the name.
Gimp is a term in common
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:00:25 -0500, Eric P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I think the name should change not because I find GIMP derogatory
but because I think a name that somewhat
identified (even vaguely) what sphere the software is used it would be a
boon.
Inkscape is an excellent
Neumann; gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 12:38 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
can you proove your claim?
Sigh. Try googling is gimp a derogatory term. If you read the
sources at the first 10 hits and you still
Owen wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a
professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the
instant derogatory impact of the name. If someone who can
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:38:02PM -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
can you proove your claim?
Sigh. Try googling is gimp a derogatory term. If you read the
sources at the first 10 hits and you still don't understand, then try
the next
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:32:46PM -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
Unreal. Okay, here in Canada the google search I indicated brings up
the following in order of top ranking:
1) The first is this link where someone with Cerebral Palsy is
discussing the term Gimp and other derogatory terms
Hello,
On 9/29/06, Roland Hordos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
[...]If you can point out a single commercial product that
has mass use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
Yahoo
I'll withdraw my critique and be gone.
:-)
Steve
FYI today i was sitting here at a semi new job (been here for a month) at a major skate shoe company, and i needed to edit an image.
my options were...
A) use microsoft paint
B) put in a software license request and wait 2 weeks
i chose option C
C) install gimp
from this perspective, the name
Saturday 30 September 2006 01:35, Raphaël Quinet rašė:
If you find a name that meets all these criteria and would probably be
immediately adopted by a marketing team if GIMP were a commercial
product, then keep in mind that you would still have 90% chance to
have the name rejected because
Roland Hordos wrote:
If you can point out a single commercial product that has
mass use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
I'll withdraw my critique and be gone.
Spam.
Both sorts.
HTH,
Michael
--
GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC:
On Friday 29 September 2006 11:38, Roland Hordos wrote:
Sven, coincidentally while I began to read your response I
received a call from an engineering user here wanting to edit a
scanned document with Paint or Photoshop. I can't justify the
cost of photoshop for 100 desktops and paint is
Owen wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
I suspect it might just be an issue local to a country, like durex is a
condom in the UK, sticky tape here
Thanks for clarifying that. I've always wondered why I can't get those suckers
off!
___
I recall a team we played against in HS - they named the school First
Assembly of God School. You can imagine the amount of harassment
they got that first year over *that* acronym on the side of the bus.
The name became First Assembly of Christ School the next year...
I do not believe that GIMP
If you can't beat 'em, join 'emHere in the USA there is a term for photographers looking at their LCD after a photo. It is known as CHIMPING -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimping
All of us GIMPers should work on changing the term from CHIMPing to GIMPing - this will solve both problems. GIMPing
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