Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

> > fmiser wrote: > > > > Just high RPM isn't enough, so running the engine against the > > governor in a low gear isn't effective. It is the heat caused > > by max power and high RPM that clears junk out. > Gerry wrote: > > Well, guess I'll have to wait until a trip to Georgia or beyond > since

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

yeah, If ya think FlahDuh is flat, head west from Winnipeg! tyee165 via Mercedes December 30, 2017 at 5:22 PM The closest good hill is probably 75 miles from home. I have done the hard run uphill and the temp gauge sure does climb _

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel = higher EGT, but within the limit.   My old Bosch guy said every Diesel should have an EGT gauge.  I looked into the price and having to get a nub welded on the down pipe 40 yrs ago and the finances voted agains

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

> On December 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > SIL has a Grady White offshore boat that probably weighs that much or more. > Gerry There ya go. An offshore sportfisher is as good as a parachute. Set the cruise for 80mph, turn on the A/C and watch the temperature gauge.

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

> In Florida there's no such thing as a big hill, so you hitch up a 2,000lb > boat trailer and do a few 0-70 runs. > Mitch. > ___ That's an idea. SIL has a Grady White offshore boat that probably weighs that much or more. Gerry --- This email has been check

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

No cooking oil. A tank of B80 to B100 will clean out the fuel system for sure. It will probably help with the carbon in the cyl. A steady diet of B20 is nice if you can find a source. I ran some cars on B100 when I had some available. No problems if you have compatible fuel lines. archer7

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Max Dillon wrote: > Gerry, > Time for a Liqui-Moly diesel purge treatment? G: I'll try that. I've also heard that a tank, or partial tank, of refined cooking oil will clean out diesel engines? > A good start would be getting the injectors tested, and if they are good then > rebuild the delive

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Gettin the 240D up to 90 should do it, even on a flat road! ;) What does that translate to on a 300D 123? 110? 120? just kidding. I think redline is 82 mph. It has been a joke since a state snooper gave #1 son a ticket for going 86m MPH downhill in his 66 200D, with his mom in the passenge

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

There's more. That was just making a list off the top of my head of the most likely candidates.I'd do the first two to four, then consider if any others are worthwhile or just put up with it. archer75--- via Mercedes December 30, 2017 at 2:54 PM Thanks. I'll

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:26:38 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > archer75--- wrote: > > > My '83 300D (same drivetrain as yours), which also doesn't get > > driven much, does the same thing. It sort of "hammers" and > > shakes the engine at idle in any kind of weather. > > > I vaguely recall

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Thanks. I'll check those possibilities and put in a new shock absorber. Gerry ~ Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Transmission mount? > Engine mount shock absorber(s)? > Glow plugs? > Air leaks? > Uneven compression? > Uneven v

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

= higher EGT, but within the limit. My old Bosch guy said every Diesel should have an EGT gauge. I looked into the price and having to get a nub welded on the down pipe 40 yrs ago and the finances voted against the EGT gauge. fmiser via Mercedes December 30,

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

In Florida there's no such thing as a big hill, so you hitch up a 2,000lb boat trailer and do a few 0-70 runs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

> archer75--- wrote: > My '83 300D (same drivetrain as yours), which also doesn't get > driven much, does the same thing. It sort of "hammers" and > shakes the engine at idle in any kind of weather. > I vaguely recall that carbon buildup isq supposed to be the > cause and the cure is to lug the

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Transmission mount? Engine mount shock absorber(s)? Glow plugs? Air leaks? Uneven compression? Uneven valve adjustment? Unbalanced injector nozzles? IP problem? I put a new engine shock on the 81 240D (it only has one) and that smoothed out the idle A BUNCH! archer75--- via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel > G Mann via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > December 29, 2017 at 10:18 PM > > > *Early on diesel wisdom given to me was to always warm up the engine > before > putting it under work load... * And still Valid Advice today!  A

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Gerry, Time for a Liqui-Moly diesel purge treatment? A good start would be getting the injectors tested, and if they are good then rebuild the delivery valves with fresh copper seals. Inspect the delivery valves, they do wear at the seat where the plunger seals. If that seat looks rough, you

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

My '83 300D (same drivetrain as yours), which also doesn't get driven much, does the same thing. It sort of "hammers" and shakes the engine at idle in any kind of weather. There are new engine mounts. Been meaning to ask the group about that but always forgot to do so. I vaguely recall that carb

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

> Curley wrote: > The OM621/61x starters are basically tractor > or truck starters. Very durable. And the danger in long cranking is heat. If the situation is sub-freezing cold-start, heat is not much of an issue. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 20:18:26 -0800 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > *Early on diesel wisdom given to me was to always warm up the engine > before putting it under work load... * That's what the owner's manuals for our big trucks say, particularly cautioning letting the oil warm up so the turbo(s) is

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

G Mann via Mercedes December 29, 2017 at 10:18 PM *Early on diesel wisdom given to me was to always warm up the engine before putting it under work load... * And still Valid Advice today! Along with always allowing a turbo engine at least 5 min idle cooldown

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Thought: Uber cold engine, plus cold fuel, combine to slow down the combustion flame path, so the fuel air charge which is ignited via compression heat ignition, burns more slowly and less completely as it drives the piston down. Some of the fuel / air charge remains in the cylinder throughout the

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Different start problem scenario: I started my 82 SD (617 turbo) this a.m. for its annual trip to NC vehicle inspection station Temps were low teens overnight and probably mid 20s when I started it. Battery minder (usually on) was disconnected before start attempt. Engine had not run in week

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

OOPs! Missed a zero. That is supposed to be 1000 to 1500 RPM. Half pedal or full pedal won't make much difference. On the pumps with a side plate, with the plate off, you can see the governor slams the rack to full fuel when you start to crank it. First time I did that I about lost a finge

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

I have some copies of the original dealer technical bulletins from MBNA. The 1979 statement about cold starting has a lot of tidbids in it. But there is a hand written note that says "Engines with ignition key controlled preflow system (twlloe indicator lamp), keep foot off accelerator during crank

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Under normal starting, floor it until the engine starts, then try to hold 100 to 1500 RPM until the engine is stable to idle. In a long cranking session, stay off the fuel until there are signs of life, then crack it as you suggest. Yes, in my 1962 190Dc manual it said you may crank it up to

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Gerry, the owner's manual specifies for cold start to hold the accelerator pedal to the floor and keep it there until after you release the key and the engine speed begins to increase, and then let up slowly so the engine doesn't die. Remember the governor in the fuel pump will limit the fuel s

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Yes I have had bad fuel problems,at the,start of winter. I use,Diesel Treat. My diesel-300CD is under cover for now. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 29, 2017 8:41 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > I've apparently had some summer fuel foisted on me. I've been using a new > place that

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Your block heater doesn't seem to work. If it did the car would start easily. Start by making sure the cable isn't munched. Just follow it to where it plugs in, damage will be obvious. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wr

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

I've apparently had some summer fuel foisted on me. I've been using a new place that only recently started carrying diesel. We picked up my car yesterday after getting a new front wheel bearing and it couldn't get out of it's own way. That was at about 0F, it started okay but had zero power. For

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

I used to do the 3 glows then crank the heck out of till it starts Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:25:59 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Back in mi 61x days you cranked it until it either started or t

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:25:59 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Back in mi 61x days you cranked it until it either started or the > battery died. If you stopped you would not have a 2nd go at it. But wasn't that after extended glowing? Craig _

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Back in mi 61x days you cranked it until it either started or the battery died. If you stopped you would not have a 2nd go at it. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2017, at 6:10 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >> Tis the season for difficult starting, so I

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Tis the season for difficult starting, so I put this together yesterday: > http://www.jaimekop.com/2017/12/cold-starting-your-mercedes-diesel-facts-and-fiction/ > Enjoy, > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ Very good! I

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Excellent!Great work! Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes December 29, 2017 at 4:55 PM Tis the season for difficult starting, so I put this together yesterday: http://www.jaimekop.com/2017/12/cold-starting-your-mercedes-diesel-facts-and-fiction/ Enjoy, Jaime ___

[MBZ] Cold starting you diesel

Tis the season for difficult starting, so I put this together yesterday: http://www.jaimekop.com/2017/12/cold-starting-your-mercedes-diesel-facts-and-fiction/ Enjoy, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search lis

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

it helps. That is part one of a two stage glow. The second is to glow until the light goes off...or a bit longer, but before the relay times out. Mitch Haley via Mercedes December 29, 2017 at 12:36 PM I wonder what a single long glow would do. Turn it to 'on', w

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

BTDT. That was literally and figuratively a non-starter. On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 13:36:01 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I wonder what a single long glow would do. > > Turn it to 'on', wait until the relay clunks off

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 13:36:01 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > I wonder what a single long glow would do. > Turn it to 'on', wait until the relay clunks off, then turn it to > start. Of course, it helps if you can hear the relay... You can watch the interior light ... Craig _

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

I wonder what a single long glow would do. Turn it to 'on', wait until the relay clunks off, then turn it to start. Of course, it helps if you can hear the relay... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

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Kurley wouldn't last a day here. 20 above, but it's damp cold that only those who live inside the beltway can deal with. Seriously - I did attempt a triple glow start this morning, sans the block heater. Voila - started much more easily than yesterday with a preheated engine. My Achilles Heel w

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

I never had to do more than a double glow, and it is only needed below 10 below. (Assuming the engine, battery and GP systems are in good condition) I doubt it is that cold in Andrewland! ADCHUST DER FALFES! (Deutz Engine Instructor) REPLACE THE FUSE (Herr Doktor Booth) Kaleb C. Stripli

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes December 28, 2017 at 9:05 PM Thanks - good questions. Primer as the updated black cap. GOOD If fuse were bad it would not start Period. Same with the gp relay - would turn but wouldn't fire. WRONG Might need a valve adjustment I

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Me neither Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes I never had to do the triple glow,with my OM 602. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Dec 28, 2017 10:25 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >

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Yes I never had to do the triple glow,with my OM 602. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 28, 2017 10:25 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s how I have always done it years back in the 61x cars. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 28, 2017, at 9:11 PM,

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That’s how I have always done it years back in the 61x cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Triple glow is,the Curt technique. Do the glow 3 times before trying to > start. Has worked,great for me. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI >

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Ok we are waiting. Northern cold forces us to deal creatively with winter diesels. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 28, 2017 10:12 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > OMG sheer genius. I will report back tomorrow come what may. > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <

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OMG sheer genius. I will report back tomorrow come what may. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Triple glow is,the Curt technique. Do the glow 3 times before trying to > start. Has worked,great for me. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Triple glow is,the Curt technique. Do the glow 3 times before trying to start. Has worked,great for me. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 28, 2017 10:05 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks - good questions. > > Primer as the updated black cap. > > If f

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Thanks - good questions. Primer as the updated black cap. If fuse were bad it would not start Period. Same with the gp relay - would turn but wouldn't fire. Might need a valve adjustment I do a lot of stop and go driving. Maybe this has hastened the valve clearance tightening? Battery is st

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

> On December 28, 2017 at 5:39 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Low probability might be an air leak in the fuel system that allows air in so > the injection pump looses it's prime. ;-) Does the primer pump have a white plastic cap that screws down to lock or a black cylindrical c

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Well, if he still has a Die Easy battery, we know the battery is weak. Dimitri via Mercedes December 28, 2017 at 7:07 PM The plugs are wired in parallel so if one fails the others will work but starting will get more difficult. When was the last time your valves

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Try afterglow. It was enabled in the later 603/6 engines. cut the violet wire in the small cable to the glow relay. That will enable the afterglow. On the push pull glow, I always disconnected the cable form the IP and put in a separate shutoff. That way on really cold days you could manua

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The plugs are wired in parallel so if one fails the others will work but starting will get more difficult. When was the last time your valves were adjusted? What is the condition of your battery and charging system? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Merced

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

I never had any trouble down to 0 to -10. BUT I was always careful to get winter fuel. One time a truck stop foisted summer fuel on me without notice. That caused problems because it was way cold. Once I got enough kerosene mixed with it all was well, but since I had filled, I had to put in

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Low probability might be an air leak in the fuel system that allows air in so the injection pump looses it's prime. ;-) I'd start with the preglow system as already discussed, keep this idea in mind if that route doesn't solve the issue. Valves adjusted recently? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Andrew sez: >Question: Does this sound like a glow >plug issue?‎ GP or relay. I just changed out a relay in my son's 123. ‎ Have you set the valves? Proper valve clearance is essential to cold weather starting.  >Do the plugs wear out or simply fail?‎ Yes. Short out on carbon, or open from age

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

> Andrew wrote: > On my W123 300TD, I am having a hard time getting it started > when the temperature dips below 20 F despite the car being > plugged into the block heater. It takes 2 minutes of multiple > glows and attempts before I can get it fired up. Once I get it > started the engine runs as

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

ia, Ohio 95 E300D 85 300CD 82 300D 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 2002 BMW 525i -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs? On my W123 300TD, I

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Yes, it will make it harder to start the car if one plug is bad. IIRC, the engine will run rough for a bit until that cylinder gets warm enough to fire. If yours is running smoothly from moment it finally starts, then I don't think it's a single (or two) glow plug issue. Either a bad plug relay or

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at up fully as needed! Regards, Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 95 E300D 85 300CD 82 300D 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 2002 BMW 525i -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

My 79 240D would start at 4F with no heater using the triple glow. I had M1 in the engine and always used anti-gel from December-March. Dwight Giles Wickford R! Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My 78 240D s

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

My 78 240D started easily until it got cold even if plugged in. Then it refused even w/new GPs.  Ended up having low compression but it gave me the "opportunity" to completely rebuild the engine.  I still think about that rebuild with pride.  Gave me 30,000miles + of trouble free driving H

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I had 1 bad plug in a 240d and it would not start at all Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > My question was whether one bad GP would make it harder to start the car > than with 5 good ones. Two bad ones? But your point is taken - I w

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

Quite possible too! I've had several bad GP relays. If the GPs test good, and you HAVE replaced the fuse, (and the new fuse does not blow the first time you try to glow) and it is still no start, then it is likely the relay is bad. Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

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My question was whether one bad GP would make it harder to start the car than with 5 good ones. Two bad ones? But your point is taken - I will test them all once it gets a little warmer. On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > As I recall you

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lf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: [MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs? On my W123 300TD, I am having a hard time getting it started when the temperature dips below 20 F despite the car

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As I recall you posted that you may have bad GPs several weeks ago. Id you did then, you certainly do now. Test them and find out. it is not hard. Pull the pug at the GP realy and check ohms to ground in all 5 pins with inserts. I'd bet you have at least 2 with infinite resistance.. Wear

[MBZ] Cold starting issue - glow plugs?

On my W123 300TD, I am having a hard time getting it started when the temperature dips below 20 F despite the car being plugged into the block heater. It takes 2 minutes of multiple glows and attempts before I can get it fired up. Once I get it started the engine runs as if it were preheated. Que

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:26:22 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I found Dave's list and stuck it on OneDrive: > > https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aq8Oa078p_LjgQGp_8GpYAO2cH39 Yup, that's the one I remembered. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel Balogna. I drive this car EVERY day. The simplest explanation is usually the answer. Gonna test my Diehard. What does NAPA sell? On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:54

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I found Dave's list and stuck it on OneDrive: https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aq8Oa078p_LjgQGp_8GpYAO2cH39 On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > I recall having Dave Meiman's list of alternators, but I can't find it. > > Perhaps someone can post his URL. > > > Craig > > -- OK Do

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:01:53 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Bosch, same body as the original. looks and fits the same on the > outside. > > > Kyle Arola via Mercedes > > January 11, 2017 at 8:38 AM > > Wow, 55 to 80 is a big jump! I imagine I will be mak

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

Shouldn't have to go under although the turbo might be kind of in the way, not a problem on a 240D... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel Thanks

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l chewed at > the connector into the block heater. A new cable was cheap and easy to > replace. > -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: [MB

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

cedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel Car started right up yesterday afternoon with temperature at 36 deg. Battery is fine, glow plugs are fine.  Only problem is an inoperative block heater.  Thanks t

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Glad you got it working cause you ain't getting Bella back! NO way NO how! Kyle On Jan 11, 2017 10:51 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Car started right up yesterday afternoon with temperature at 36 deg. > Battery is fine, glow plugs are fine. Only problem

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Car started right up yesterday afternoon with temperature at 36 deg. Battery is fine, glow plugs are fine. Only problem is an inoperative block heater. Thanks to all for the good advice. On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Bosch, same b

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Bosch, same body as the original. looks and fits the same on the outside. Kyle Arola via Mercedes January 11, 2017 at 8:38 AM Wow, 55 to 80 is a big jump! I imagine I will be making that jump in a bit as well Is this a MB alternator, or an aftermarket brand? K

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>> >> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew >> Strasfogel >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel >>Balogna. I drive this car EVERY day. >> >

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charged up. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel Balogna. I drive this car EVERY day. The simplest explanation is usually the answer. Gon

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should be fully charged before testing ... Fortunately, changing an alternator in a W123 is MUCH easier than in an '89 Chevy G20 van. Craig From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM Subject: Re

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From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel > > Balogna.  I drive this car EVERY day. > > The simplest explanation is usuall

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-Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel Balogna.  I drive this car EVERY day. The simplest explanation is usually the answer.  Gonna test my Di

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Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel On ours you can hear the gentle hiss when they're working. If it's quiet outside. Otherwise, ammeter/wattmeter. Kill-A-Watt is highly recommended, and fairly

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mobile >> club has. We weren't sure it was working so I put the Kill-A-Watt on it, >> sure enough it was drawing 800 watts. That machine is terrible to start in >> the cold, the block heater is pretty much required. >> -Curt >> >> From: Jim Cathey via Merced

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nt: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel On ours you can hear the gentle hiss when they're working. If it's quiet outside. Otherwise, ammeter/wattmeter. Kill-A-Watt is highly recommended, and fairly cheap. Dozens of uses! -- Jim __

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rd for the block heater and see if its broken. I had that happen on my '83 240D. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel I broke down and got a jump-start t

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gt; From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Jim Cathey > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:51 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel > > > > > I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke > > > On ours you can hear t

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: Jim Cathey via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel > > I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke On ours you can hear the gentle hiss when they're working.  If it

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> > I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke On ours you can hear the gentle hiss when they're working. If it's quiet outside. Otherwise, ammeter/wattmeter. Kill-A-Watt is highly recommended, and fairly cheap. Dozens of uses! -- Jim ___ http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

There was a picture in there of a MB cold start manual for your dizzel. Looks like it got stripped but the msg came through. Weird. On 1/9/17 10:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.oki

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Kyle is my designated Buyer from now until forever. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > hahaha! > > Kyle LOVES his POS and would not sell it back! My POS just needed a couple > of little things and it is now filled with the awesome! > > Kyle

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

hahaha! Kyle LOVES his POS and would not sell it back! My POS just needed a couple of little things and it is now filled with the awesome! Kyle On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > At 18F, it is not likely to be gelled fuel. It should st

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

At 18F, it is not likely to be gelled fuel. It should start. Test the GPs/relay. You shoulda sold Kyle that POS and kept the other POS! I'll give ya $500 if you deliver... 18 is not even cold for these cars. If it has good compression and good fuel/delivery and a good battery, you can pro

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

If it doesn't fire something else is wrong. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel Normal. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will also

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. I put a quart of Diesel Supplement (enough to > treat 100 gallons) into the tank, drove it for a couple days and filled > with good winter fuel. > -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Mond

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

>> >> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel >> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 2:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel >> >> I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke &

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

Strasfogel Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke Had to plug it in to start Sat. night (18 deg.) but then it would not start Sunday although plugged in for 30 mins.  Left it plugged in overnight and

Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel

I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke Had to plug it in to start Sat. night (18 deg.) but then it would not start Sunday although plugged in for 30 mins. Left it plugged in overnight and this AM no luck - wouldn't fire. It's either gelled fuel or a block heater gone south (no pun inten

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