Re: ThinkPad T41p suspend is fine from console, hangs from X
In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118157353605570w=1 I wrote # I have a problem with suspend-to-RAM on an IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T41p # running OpenBSD 4.1-stable. Basically, suspend-to-RAM works fine if # I'm not running X, but hangs the system if I'm running X. My basic # question is, has anyone gotten suspend-to-RAM to work while X is # running on a T41p, and if so, how did you do it? In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118158640324339w=1, Niall O'Higgins suggested Try switching to console before suspend. and in message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118159088829879w=1, Jussi Peltola offered a pointer to a program to do this automatically. That's a good idea! Alas, when I tried it, the results were the same as when I tried suspend from within X :( :( # == the moon-shaped status light starts blinking # and keeps on blinking, disk and fan stay running, # and the machine is hung (all keyboard input is ignored, # including 'Fn' and 'Fn-F4'; I have to power-cycle it # to regain control (which in turn requires fsck-ing all # mounted the file systems etc)) More generally, the *only* conditions under which suspend-to-RAM works is if X has *never* been run since the last reboot. Since X is so tied up in this, I should also note that I do *not* have an 'xorg.conf' -- the system is using some sort of internally-generated default X configuration, which works fine (which is why I never bothered to set up my own 'xorg.conf'. (My X resolution is 1400x1050, default depth 16 bits/pixel, other available depths 1, 4, 8, 15, 24, 32.) One of the things I haven't yet tried, but plan to try soon, is to set up an explicit 'xorg.conf' (eg there's a T41p configuration on the OpenBSD laptops page http://www.openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html which gives one), and see if this helps. ciao, -- -- Jonathan Thornburg -- remove -animal to reply [EMAIL PROTECTED] Max-Planck-Institut fuer Gravitationsphysik (Albert-Einstein-Institut) and School of Mathematics, U of Southampton, England Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. -- quote by Freire / poster by Oxfam
libexpat confusion
Hello, I am running -current and I'm a little confused about expat. It was removed from the ports tree, with message expat comes with OpenBSD as of release 4.2. Indeed I see it is in /usr/src/lib/libexpat. However it is not in /usr/src/lib/Makefile, so it isn't being built. My direct problem is building /usr/ports/devel/apr-util, which aparently looks for expat in $X11BASE (/usr/X11R6). Since I don't have X installed this fails. Furthermore, I don't want to install X and surely apr-util doesn't need to depend on it. Can someone enlighten me about where expat ought to be, so I can modify the Makefile for apr-util correctly ? TIA, Jaap Versteegh
Re: libexpat confusion
On 2007/06/12 12:33, Jaap Versteegh wrote: My direct problem is building /usr/ports/devel/apr-util, which aparently looks for expat in $X11BASE (/usr/X11R6). Since I don't have X installed this fails. you'll need to install xbase. the libraries from xbase are needed for quite a few things in ports. xbase comes with two setgid binaries, xlock and xterm, which you may conceivably want to chmod. you don't need xserv or machdep.allowaperture. Furthermore, I don't want to install X and surely apr-util doesn't need to depend on it. it does, because it uses expat, and that's where expat comes from in -current.
Spamd variation
Hi, From the man page it appears that spamd relies on static information about spam originators. Why not a more dynamic scheme ?. Why not run the content of the mail through a spam detector (like dspam), find the spam score and make decisions based on that. I know that spam detection is no where near perfect but it can be used for assigning a 'badness score' to a site(originator of email). So a site keeps getting this score and the average (per msg) exceeds a we black list the site for fixed duration. Similarly for white listing. 'Badness score' and also be assigned for other things, like trying to send to non-existant user (a typical spammer probe), absence of mx entry etc. A milter(sendmail/postfix) can be implemented for this. Thus decisions will be more dynamic and 'configuration free'. Does this sound reasonable ? regards Praveen ___ You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html
Re: Spamd variation
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:04:23 -0700 (PDT), Praveen wrote: Hi, From the man page it appears that spamd relies on static information about spam originators. Why not a more dynamic scheme ?. Why not run the content of the mail through a spam detector (like dspam), find the spam score and make decisions based on that. I know that spam detection is no where near perfect but it can be used for assigning a 'badness score' to a site(originator of email). So a site keeps getting this score and the average (per msg) exceeds a we black list the site for fixed duration. Similarly for white listing. 'Badness score' and also be assigned for other things, like trying to send to non-existant user (a typical spammer probe), absence of mx entry etc. A milter(sendmail/postfix) can be implemented for this. Thus decisions will be more dynamic and 'configuration free'. Does this sound reasonable ? No. That would make spamd into bloatware and much less efficient. People who want milters, content-inspection, RBL lookups and whatever can run them in conjunction with their MTA. spamd does all I want it to do with no measureable load on my system. I do NO content inspection and there have been only 3 spams total which got to any user in this domain since 1/1/7. Content inspection practitioners are always playing catchup and fiddling with ham/spam training for their toys and then along comes the next trick of the spammers = back to square one. Thanks to beck@ and company I don't have to play that silly game. R\/\/. In the beginning was The Word and The Word was Content-type: text/plain The Word of Rod.
Re: Spamd variation
Praveen wrote: From the man page it appears that spamd relies on static information about spam originators. greylisting is pretty dynamic. --- Lars Hansson
Re: Spamd variation
RW wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:04:23 -0700 (PDT), Praveen wrote: Hi, From the man page it appears that spamd relies on static information about spam originators. Why not a more dynamic scheme ?. Why not run the content of the mail through a spam detector (like dspam), find the spam score and make decisions based on that. I know that spam detection is no where near perfect but it can be used for assigning a 'badness score' to a site(originator of email). So a site keeps getting this score and the average (per msg) exceeds a we black list the site for fixed duration. Similarly for white listing. 'Badness score' and also be assigned for other things, like trying to send to non-existant user (a typical spammer probe), absence of mx entry etc. A milter(sendmail/postfix) can be implemented for this. Thus decisions will be more dynamic and 'configuration free'. Does this sound reasonable ? No. That would make spamd into bloatware and much less efficient. People who want milters, content-inspection, RBL lookups and whatever can run them in conjunction with their MTA. spamd does all I want it to do with no measureable load on my system. I do NO content inspection and there have been only 3 spams total which got to any user in this domain since 1/1/7. Content inspection practitioners are always playing catchup and fiddling with ham/spam training for their toys and then along comes the next trick of the spammers = back to square one. i second this. started working at my current job and there was a ton of spam coming through until i setup spamd. some spam outfits, e.g. OptInBig.com, took a bit of energy and analysis to block (thrown into blacklists) but now that it's done, we get very little spam. the amount of energy i have to expend on a regular basis to keep spamd working effectively is approximately 0. Thanks to beck@ and company I don't have to play that silly game. here here! carefully reading the RFCs can be a beautiful thing indeed. cheers, jake R\/\/. In the beginning was The Word and The Word was Content-type: text/plain The Word of Rod.
Re: libexpat confusion
Thank you for your reponse. Furthermore, I don't want to install X and surely apr-util doesn't need to depend on it. it does, because it uses expat, and that's where expat comes from in -current. That explains the need for the 'depend' from the point of view of the apr-util Makefile developer. From an overall or user perspective, the need for any package that uses the expat xml parser to depend on the xbase package, is still entirely unclear. For one: this dependency was never neccessary in the past. Shouldn't expat not just go into /usr/lib ? And you are right about the fact that other ports depend on X being present. Like databases/odbc == gtk+-1.2.10p6 uses X11, but /usr/X11R6 not found. A database connectivity driver that depends on a GUI toolkit.. sounds fishy to me. I hope OpenBSD doesn't slowly go GNU/Linux in the spaghetti sense. Jaap
multiple ldap servers with mod_auth_ldap
Hello, I'm using mod_auth_ldap-1.6.0p3 on OpenBSD 4.1 and I'd like to make it authenticate on 2 ldap servers in case one is down. I fought with the AuthLDAPURL directive but with no success. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Thierry.
Re: libexpat confusion
Jaap Versteegh wrote: For one: this dependency was never neccessary in the past. Because in the past there was an expat port. Shouldn't expat not just go into /usr/lib ? It's part of Xorg and therefore it belong in /usr/X11R6/lib/. And you are right about the fact that other ports depend on X being present. Like databases/odbc == gtk+-1.2.10p6 uses X11, but /usr/X11R6 not found. A database connectivity driver that depends on a GUI toolkit.. sounds fishy to me. Complain to the odbc people for depending on gtk. This has nothing to do with expat or OpenBSD. I hope OpenBSD doesn't slowly go GNU/Linux in the spaghetti sense. This is exactly what is avoided by not also having a standalone port of expat. --- Lars Hansson
Re: RAIDFrame root autoconfig fails in -current
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:10:34PM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Otto Moerbeek wrote: Please contact krw@, he has been searching testers for RAIDframe root autoconfig on [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's even a diff posted there, iirc. I'm your point-man there. A while back I wrote 3 pages of technical detritus on making it work in 3.9/4.0. ISOs w/ install.sh patches, too. So we're changing the software raid subsystems eh? ~BAS -Otto The disklabel is correct, and if I use a non-RAID boot drive, raid0a can I committed the diff to raidframe to 'fix' raidgetdisklabel() so it behaves/gets used like other drivers. It should be in snapshots after today. With this and the other disklabel changes going on, hammering at raidframe to uncover issues in odd cases (or normal cases for that matter) much appreciated. Ken
chroot'ed httpd howto
Hi, I'm currenly having troubles running MediaWiki on 4.1, but I assume it's due to my poor understanding of the chroot'ed httpd and running php. So is there somewhere an howto or a faq about troubleshooting problems in this field? The actual problem: once a user has logged into and switches to another page, the login state is lost. mfG -- stefan --
Re: upgrading RAIDFRAME systems
On 6/12/07, Josh Grosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 06:59:46PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: am I missing something, or did you neglect to help him with his question, which was about how to upgrade with RAIDframe in use? I had everything except building the kernel, and placing it on the one (or two) non-RAIDFrame controlled partitions for booting. Yep, I forgot that. :( I have several low end machines with dual SATA drives and have the full install under raidframe with the recommended a=/, b=swap, d=/usr, etc... Both drives have separate 4gb partitions which each have a full install serve as the boot partition. 1. Backup all data. 2. Disabe raidframe autoconfiguration. 3. Do a full install on the second drive's 4gb partition and boot on that. 4. Enable raidframe and make install a new kernel. 5. Boot the new version on the second drive. At this point if everything works you can newfs any of the pre-upgrade raid partitions and dump/restore from the new install on the second drive to the raid partitions. If you made separate data partitions that don't need upgraded you don't have to touch them. Don't forget to resync the first boot partition with the second and turn on autoconfiguration. Oh, remember to run installboot as part of resyncing (DOH!). If for some reason you're new install is faulty you can just resync the second boot partition with the first (installboot!), re-enable autoconfig, and a reboot gets you back to square one. -N
Re: multiple ldap servers with mod_auth_ldap
You can make a single service host address a highly available (active-standby, load-balancing) using a number of mechanisms (hardware, network devices, pf(4) w/ NAT) as opposed to trying to do it for every protocol in software. check out bob beck's talk(s) on pf(4) ~BAS On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Thierry Lacoste wrote: Hello, I'm using mod_auth_ldap-1.6.0p3 on OpenBSD 4.1 and I'd like to make it authenticate on 2 ldap servers in case one is down. I fought with the AuthLDAPURL directive but with no success. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Thierry. l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail? ~James Maynard Keenan
Re: multiple ldap servers with mod_auth_ldap
* Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 14:35]: Hello, I'm using mod_auth_ldap-1.6.0p3 on OpenBSD 4.1 and I'd like to make it authenticate on 2 ldap servers in case one is down. I fought with the AuthLDAPURL directive but with no success. AuthName something good AuthType Basic AuthLDAPURL ldap://a.ldap.bsws.de b.ldap.bsws.de/ou=..?uid?sub?objectclass=... AuthLDAPBindDN cn=http-auth,... AuthLDAPBindPassword ... AuthLDAPStartTLS off # broken... stupid OpenLDAP -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: chroot'ed httpd howto
stefan hoffmann wrote: Hi, I'm currenly having troubles running MediaWiki on 4.1, but I assume it's due to my poor understanding of the chroot'ed httpd and running php. So is there somewhere an howto or a faq about troubleshooting problems in this field? The actual problem: once a user has logged into and switches to another page, the login state is lost. search the misc@openbsd.org archives on MARC for this. troubleshooting is, in most cases, a matter of figuring out what you want to run, using ldd and copying dependencies inside the chroot. cheers, jake mfG -- stefan --
Re: multiple ldap servers with mod_auth_ldap
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:07, Henning Brauer wrote: * Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 14:35]: Hello, I'm using mod_auth_ldap-1.6.0p3 on OpenBSD 4.1 and I'd like to make it authenticate on 2 ldap servers in case one is down. I fought with the AuthLDAPURL directive but with no success. AuthName something good AuthType Basic AuthLDAPURL ldap://a.ldap.bsws.de b.ldap.bsws.de/ou=..?uid?sub?objectclass=... AuthLDAPBindDN cn=http-auth,... AuthLDAPBindPassword ... AuthLDAPStartTLS off # broken... stupid OpenLDAP Argh, is this because of AuthLDAPStartTLS that I couldn't make it work? I will try it just out of curiosity but I've just configured my OpenLDAP servers to reject non-TLS connexions. I don't like the idea of cleartext passwords on the wire ... Thierry.
Re: libexpat confusion
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 02:23:06PM +0200, Jaap Versteegh wrote:
Furthermore, I don't want to install X and surely apr-util doesn't need
to depend on it.
it does, because it uses expat, and that's where expat comes from in
-current.
That explains the need for the 'depend' from the point of view of the
apr-util Makefile developer.
From an overall or user perspective, the need for any package that uses the
expat xml parser to depend on the xbase package, is still entirely unclear.
For one: this dependency was never neccessary in the past. Shouldn't expat
not just go into /usr/lib ?
Well, OpenBSD's dual system for dealing with software ('base' and
'ports') could be criticized, but unless you want to do that, there is
no more sensible way to do this. The alternative would be to require
someone to install a port before installing X, which makes even less
sense.
Really, this is a non-problem. Just install the whole base system,
including at least xbase, and be done with it.
Joachim
--
TFMotD: atc (6) - air traffic controller game
Re: multiple ldap servers with mod_auth_ldap
* Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 15:27]: On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:07, Henning Brauer wrote: * Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 14:35]: Hello, I'm using mod_auth_ldap-1.6.0p3 on OpenBSD 4.1 and I'd like to make it authenticate on 2 ldap servers in case one is down. I fought with the AuthLDAPURL directive but with no success. AuthName something good AuthType Basic AuthLDAPURL ldap://a.ldap.bsws.de b.ldap.bsws.de/ou=..?uid?sub?objectclass=... AuthLDAPBindDN cn=http-auth,... AuthLDAPBindPassword ... AuthLDAPStartTLS off # broken... stupid OpenLDAP Argh, is this because of AuthLDAPStartTLS that I couldn't make it work? I will try it just out of curiosity but I've just configured my OpenLDAP servers to reject non-TLS connexions. I don't like the idea of cleartext passwords on the wire ... neither do I, nor do i fully remember what the problem was. maybe time to retry. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: chroot'ed httpd howto
stefan hoffmann schrieb: I'm currenly having troubles running MediaWiki on 4.1, but I assume it's due to my poor understanding of the chroot'ed httpd and running php. D'oh: I had not changed the rights for /var/www/tmp... Thanks to all. mfG -- stefan --
Re: libexpat confusion
Lars Hansson wrote: It's part of Xorg and therefore it belong in /usr/X11R6/lib/. Really ? I see it in extra's: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.2/src/extras/ I also see perl in there. So should perl go into /usr/X11R6/bin ? Jaap
Re: chroot'ed httpd howto
stefan hoffmann wrote: Hi, I'm currenly having troubles running MediaWiki on 4.1, but I assume it's due to my poor understanding of the chroot'ed httpd and running php. So is there somewhere an howto or a faq about troubleshooting problems in this field? The actual problem: once a user has logged into and switches to another page, the login state is lost. mfG -- stefan -- I moved a MediaWiki install 1.6 from an Ubuntu Server to OpenBSD 4.1-stable without any issues. Not really much help in your situation, but maybe there is something else other than it being in a chroot that is causing the issue? Chris -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: libexpat confusion
Joachim Schipper wrote:
Well, OpenBSD's dual system for dealing with software ('base' and
'ports') could be criticized, but unless you want to do that, there is
no more sensible way to do this. The alternative would be to require
someone to install a port before installing X, which makes even less
sense.
Indeed. It certainly makes sense to put it in the base system, I just don't
understand why it must be part of xbase rather than base when so many non X
programs use expat.
Really, this is a non-problem. Just install the whole base system,
including at least xbase, and be done with it.
OK ;)
Jaap
neo0: unknown int / ac97: codec id not read on Dell Latitude LS
Hi all,
I am running 4.1 on a Dell Latitude LS notebook. This machine uses the
Neomagic MagicMedia 256AV audio chip:
...
neo0 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 Neomagic MagicMedia 256AV rev 0x20
audio0 at neo0
...
Now, _sometimes_ the boot gets into an endless loop saying
neo0: unknown int
Looking at the source, I see that (sys/dev/pci/neo.c)
/* The interrupt handler */
int
neo_intr(void *p)
{
struct neo_softc *sc = (struct neo_softc *)p;
int status, x;
int rv = 0;
status = nm_rd(sc, NM_INT_REG, sc-irsz);
if (status sc-playint) {
status = ~sc-playint;
sc-pwmark += sc-pblksize;
sc-pwmark %= sc-pbufsize;
nm_wr(sc, NM_PBUFFER_WMARK, sc-pbuf + sc-pwmark, 4);
nm_ackint(sc, sc-playint);
if (sc-pintr)
(*sc-pintr)(sc-parg);
rv = 1;
}
if (status sc-recint) {
status = ~sc-recint;
sc-rwmark += sc-rblksize;
sc-rwmark %= sc-rbufsize;
nm_ackint(sc, sc-recint);
if (sc-rintr)
(*sc-rintr)(sc-rarg);
rv = 1;
}
if (status sc-misc1int) {
status = ~sc-misc1int;
nm_ackint(sc, sc-misc1int);
x = nm_rd(sc, 0x400, 1);
nm_wr(sc, 0x400, x | 2, 1);
printf(%s: misc int 1\n, sc-dev.dv_xname);
rv = 1;
}
if (status sc-misc2int) {
status = ~sc-misc2int;
nm_ackint(sc, sc-misc2int);
x = nm_rd(sc, 0x400, 1);
nm_wr(sc, 0x400, x ~2, 1);
printf(%s: misc int 2\n, sc-dev.dv_xname);
rv = 1;
}
if (status) {
status = ~sc-misc2int;
nm_ackint(sc, sc-misc2int);
printf(%s: unknown int\n, sc-dev.dv_xname);
rv = 1;
}
return (rv);
}
How does such such a thing ever happen? Who writes into the card's
NM_INT_REG register and how can an unknown value ever get there?
In other cases, the machine boots and everything works, except that
neo0 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 Neomagic MagicMedia 256AV rev 0x20
1:0:1 10c8:8005 pin B clink 0x01 irq 10 stage 0 WARNING: preserving irq 10
pci_intr_route_link: route PIRQ 0x01 - IRQ 10 preserved BIOS setting
: irq 10
ac97: codec id not read
audio0 at neo0
and I am unable to use any audio. The sound stuff doesn't even
appear in sysctl -a.
Does anybody have the same problem, or even a solution?
Thanks
Jan
Re: Spamd variation
* Praveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 05:14]: Hi, From the man page it appears that spamd relies on static information about spam originators. Why not a more dynamic scheme ?. No, it doesn't. please read the man page instead of trolling. Why not run the content of the mail through a spam detector (like dspam), find the spam score and make decisions based on that. I know that spam detection is no where near perfect but it can be used for assigning a 'badness score' to a site(originator of email). So a site keeps getting this score and the average (per msg) exceeds a we black list the site for fixed duration. Similarly for white listing. No. spamd does not do content filtering. 'Badness score' and also be assigned for other things, like trying to send to non-existant user (a typical spammer probe), absence of mx entry etc. A milter(sendmail/postfix) can be implemented for this. Thus decisions will be more dynamic and 'configuration free'. As it is, spamd in greylisting mode (the default) is very configuration free. but it sounds like you actually don't run it, and are just trolling. -Bob
Re: hoststated/spamd
I still don't see how hosts in spamd-white are not sent to spamd.
what if a host is in spamd-white, but not in spamd-exempt..
-Bob
* Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-11 17:21]:
On 2007/06/08 16:02, Bob Beck wrote:
rdr-anchor hoststated/smtp from spamd-white
rdr proto tcp from !spamd-exempt to $MX port smtp - 127.0.0.1 port
spamd
The fact that those two table names are different looks suspiciously
wrong to me.
It took you pointing this out for me to work out exactly how anchors
with wildcards and host restrictions work, but it does work for me;
rdr-anchor hoststated/smtp from spamd-white
- spamd-white is handled by hoststated rules in the anchor,
rdr proto tcp from !spamd-exempt to $MX port smtp - 127.0.0.1 port spamd
- normal hosts hit this reasonably normal spamd rdr,
rdr-anchor hoststated/*
- spamd-exempt, holding hosts exempted from greylisting, has fallen
through from the first two; this and non-smtp services are handled by
hoststated rules.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl
if ((not 0 not 1) != (! 0 ! 1)) {
print Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n;
}
Re: About BSD Certification
On 6/11/07, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/10/07, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's just as stupid as requiring people have a cert. Lots of people have certs because so many places toss your resume if you don't have MCSE or CCNA listed on it. Just because they have a cert doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. alot of anti-cert sentiment. borderline misinformation in some cases. I've interviewed folks with and without certs. I don't know why some people insist on arguing that book != cover[1] with regard to certs. silly. here's a couple points for consideration: You lightly touched on it, but there is a very crucial need for this certification that happily employed IT people can't begin to understand. There are many young unemployables who freely code dozens of languages, but work at gas stations because they have a blank resume. I know a very good kernel hacker in Flint, MI who does roofing. I met another C programmer at a small factory where we both made -less- than minimum wage. Some young people live in areas with very high unemployment rates. In these places, it is not so easy to gain even minimal experience under high competition. With a resume that contains no related work history or any education, a certification is a cheap way to prove a small amount of equivalent real-world experience to get a foot in the door. I support the BSD certification, and will be recommending it to all students who would like to find work in the field before they graduate (or if they can't afford to graduate). I think we should all be used to the idea that many college students also work full time. An equivalent linux certification, LPI, costs less than a single college course. I have been tracking BSDCG's progress in detail, including their psychometrics, and this may possibly become the best real-world experience equivalency IT certification yet, and set an example for others. They're not trying to make this certification any more than it is, no more than the equivalent of a few months experience. Lastly, though I think it's already been said, If you don't like or need the certification, don't take it. If you think it's equivalency is shit, then don't consider it when making hiring decisions. If neither of these apply, go shit in somebody else's bed. Don't ruin it for those who could really use it.
Re: libexpat confusion
We still haven't enabled expat in base/, because it's not audited enough yet... we `trust' it as an X11 library, but no-one has addressed the multiple security issues it may have. Yes, we do know expat is a problem... we finally removed it from ports/ because it makes no sense to build it once. If you don't trust X11, you can install just a few pieces. expat is mostly independant from the rest. There are a lot of conflicting opinions there. In the end, the sensible solution is to audit libexpat and enable the version in source. The only issue is that no-one has had time to do that correctly yet.
Re: libexpat confusion
On 6/12/07, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 02:23:06PM +0200, Jaap Versteegh wrote:
Furthermore, I don't want to install X and surely apr-util doesn't need
to depend on it.
it does, because it uses expat, and that's where expat comes from in
-current.
That explains the need for the 'depend' from the point of view of the
apr-util Makefile developer.
From an overall or user perspective, the need for any package that uses the
expat xml parser to depend on the xbase package, is still entirely unclear.
For one: this dependency was never neccessary in the past. Shouldn't expat
not just go into /usr/lib ?
Well, OpenBSD's dual system for dealing with software ('base' and
'ports') could be criticized, but unless you want to do that, there is
no more sensible way to do this. The alternative would be to require
someone to install a port before installing X, which makes even less
sense.
Really, this is a non-problem. Just install the whole base system,
including at least xbase, and be done with it.
I follow current by installing binary snapshots and pre-compiled packages.
fetchmail also depends on expat.
Because I don't want the complete xbase41.tgz I just extract the expat libs
and put them in a site41-hostname.tgz
#!/bin/sh
VERSION=41
HOST=diogenes
TARBALL=site${VERSION}-${HOST}.tgz
tar xvzpf xbase41.tgz -C /tmp \*expat\*
tar cvzf $TARBALL -C /tmp usr
tar tvzf $TARBALL
---
During the snapshot install this file gets selected automatically.
Snippet from the install:
Select sets by entering a set name, a file name pattern or 'all'. De-select
sets by prepending a '-' to the set name, file name pattern or 'all'. Selected
sets are labelled '[X]'.
[X] bsd
[X] bsd.rd
[ ] bsd.mp
[X] base41.tgz
[X] etc41.tgz
[X] misc41.tgz
[X] comp41.tgz
[X] man41.tgz
[ ] xbase41.tgz
[ ] xetc41.tgz
[ ] xshare41.tgz
[ ] xfont41.tgz
[ ] xserv41.tgz
[X] site41-diogenes.tgz
=Adriaan=
Re: About BSD Certification
On 6/12/07, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/11/07, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/10/07, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's just as stupid as requiring people have a cert. Lots of people have certs because so many places toss your resume if you don't have MCSE or CCNA listed on it. Just because they have a cert doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. alot of anti-cert sentiment. borderline misinformation in some cases. I've interviewed folks with and without certs. I don't know why some people insist on arguing that book != cover[1] with regard to certs. silly. here's a couple points for consideration: You lightly touched on it, but there is a very crucial need for this certification that happily employed IT people can't begin to understand. There are many young unemployables who freely code dozens of languages, but work at gas stations because they have a blank resume. I know a very good kernel hacker in Flint, MI who does roofing. I met another C programmer at a small factory where we both made -less- than minimum wage. Does the cert cover coding? In any case I completely ignore certs when hiring or finding contractors. I've found too many times that people can't answer simple questions about administration even when they're a CCNA or MCSE or the like. In the case of developers I'll take someone without experience if they bring their own code and can explain it to me in layman's terms, and if they can take some basic undocumented code of ours and document it. Greg -- http://ticketmastersucks.org/tracker.html Run over your friends in stolen Volkswagens And tell them I sent you, and tell them I sent ... YOU - Mclusky
openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
openbsd gurus, As my saga continues... I have a newly built server on which I am attempting to install openbsd 4.0. Problems occurred on install of sets, where comp set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: http://www.surfutopia.net/openbsd/ The logs are separated by the boot log, an install log not including the install of the sets, and two passes of the install of the sets, all dying in the comp set install. I have two drives in the server. I only installed on one (wd0). I have had the same types of errors when only installing on the second (wd1). So, it is most likely not a problem with the specific drive. However, the probability could exist. So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where the hardware problem could be? I have already ran the memory through the memtests. There is not a problem there. I am willing to try (almost) anything to play around with this. I would like to get the server up and running so I can move on to the next one. No time pressure, though. Thank you in advance for any pointers you can provide. Thanks! JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: multiple ldap servers with mod_auth_ldap
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:49, Henning Brauer wrote: * Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 15:27]: On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:07, Henning Brauer wrote: * Thierry Lacoste [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-12 14:35]: Hello, I'm using mod_auth_ldap-1.6.0p3 on OpenBSD 4.1 and I'd like to make it authenticate on 2 ldap servers in case one is down. I fought with the AuthLDAPURL directive but with no success. AuthName something good AuthType Basic AuthLDAPURL ldap://a.ldap.bsws.de b.ldap.bsws.de/ou=..?uid?sub?objectclass=... AuthLDAPBindDN cn=http-auth,... AuthLDAPBindPassword ... AuthLDAPStartTLS off # broken... stupid OpenLDAP Argh, is this because of AuthLDAPStartTLS that I couldn't make it work? I will try it just out of curiosity but I've just configured my OpenLDAP servers to reject non-TLS connexions. I don't like the idea of cleartext passwords on the wire ... neither do I, nor do i fully remember what the problem was. maybe time to retry. Well it actually seems to work perfectly with my two OpenLDAP servers and TLS. This is on OpenBSD 3.8 and I will try tomorrow with 4.1. AFAICS my problem was just a matter of using the correct syntax for AuthLDAPURL. Thank you very much. Thierry. PS: FWIW I don't use AuthLDAPBindDN nor AuthLDAPBindPassword.
Re: hoststated/spamd
On 2007/06/12 09:04, Bob Beck wrote:
I still don't see how hosts in spamd-white are not sent to spamd.
what if a host is in spamd-white, but not in spamd-exempt..
# pfctl -sn -vv|grep -E '(smtp|hoststated)'
@0 rdr-anchor hoststated/smtp from spamd-white:1440 to any
@1 rdr inet proto tcp from ! spamd-exempt:122 to XXX port = smtp - 127.0.0.1
port 8025
@2 rdr inet proto tcp from ! spamd-exempt:122 to YYY port = smtp - 127.0.0.1
port 8025
@3 rdr-anchor hoststated/* all
hosts in spamd-white are handled by the anchor at @0 (see below)
hosts in spamd-exempt fall through this, past @1/@2, and hit the anchor at @3
now I worked out how to display translation rules under anchors
(pfctl -sn -a '*' doesn't recurse through them), so here they are:
# pfctl -sn -vv -a hoststated/smtp|grep smtp
@0 rdr on vlan2204 inet proto tcp from any to XXX port = smtp - smtp port 25
round-robin
@1 rdr on vlan2244 inet proto tcp from any to XXX port = smtp - smtp port 25
round-robin
@2 rdr on vlan2204 inet proto tcp from any to YYY port = smtp - smtp port 25
round-robin
@3 rdr on vlan2244 inet proto tcp from any to YYY port = smtp - smtp port 25
round-robin
..smtp parts of hoststated.conf:
table smtp-lb {
real port smtp
check send expect 220*SMTP*
host XXX
host YYY
}
service smtp {
virtual host XXX port smtp interface vlan2244
virtual host XXX port smtp interface vlan2204
virtual host YYY port smtp interface vlan2244
virtual host YYY port smtp interface vlan2204
table smtp-lb
}
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Maxim, set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: In my case when I had the same problem it was the CD-rom reader that was bad. Replacing cdrom with DVD drive from my workstation helped. Could that explain the errors I am seeing? It appears the error is on the write, not the read, though I could be wrong. JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: need a machine for an itanium port
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Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
I've seen this before. On old HP gear. Is your HP? Only FreeBSD would run on the system. NetBSD/OpenBSD dead in the water. Some obscure bug when the I/O went up (Symbios SCSI). One of many reason why I want nothing to do with HP (H-PHUX) ever again. Anyway, how about underclocking your Duron some? Reset the BIOS timings and power levels to failsafe? The old K7+VIA Chipset boards were a rough crowd. ~BAS On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, John Mendenhall wrote: openbsd gurus, As my saga continues... I have a newly built server on which I am attempting to install openbsd 4.0. Problems occurred on install of sets, where comp set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: http://www.surfutopia.net/openbsd/ The logs are separated by the boot log, an install log not including the install of the sets, and two passes of the install of the sets, all dying in the comp set install. I have two drives in the server. I only installed on one (wd0). I have had the same types of errors when only installing on the second (wd1). So, it is most likely not a problem with the specific drive. However, the probability could exist. So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where the hardware problem could be? I have already ran the memory through the memtests. There is not a problem there. I am willing to try (almost) anything to play around with this. I would like to get the server up and running so I can move on to the next one. No time pressure, though. Thank you in advance for any pointers you can provide. Thanks! JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail? ~James Maynard Keenan
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
John Mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where the hardware problem could be? google turns up a few references on various BSD mailing list for the search string OpenBSD ffs_valloc: dup alloc. No clear cut solutions, but the popular suspicion runs in the direction of buggy (S)ATA controllers or, of course, possibly subtle, hard to trigger bugs in the operating system's controller support code. Swapping out motherboards could be unpleasant, but seeing that the error occurs at pretty much exactly the same spot on the CDs, have you tried swapping out the CD/DVD drive for a different unit? -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Sometime NAT, sometimes NOT?
pfctl -x loud tail -f /var/log/messages ~BAS On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Geraerts Andy wrote: We have an OpenBSD firewall running for a while now. Since a few days we encounter some sort of selective natting. I try to ping a host, I get reply, and 2 minutes later I try to ping the same host and I dont get replies. So despite the state being created in both instances, you see a packet egress your external interface with the source address of the internal host instead of the external interface of the NAT box? We indeed see the state being created. The packet egresses on the external interface without NAT. So the ip packet contains the source ip address of my laptop and therefor further on the path gets blocked because it isn't natted. A few seconds/minutes later I try again and everything works again. Is there a way to see why it isn't doing the NAT? (There are around 80 interfaces (vlan + carp) on the box.) Regards, Andy. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 10/06/2007 13:39 __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at : [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call +32-(0)11-240234. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by Sophos for the presence of computer viruses. __ l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail? ~Maynard James Keenan
dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
Hi,
I am trying to setup a DHCP server on a multi-homed firewall. One of the
interfaces is vr0 and should supply addresses 172.16.255.x/24. The other
is sk0 and should supply 200.232.140.x/24.
My /etc/dhcpd.interfaces looks like
sk0
vr0
My /etc/dhcpd.conf looks like
shared-network LOCAL-NET {
option domain-name-servers 200.232.140.1;
subnet 200.232.140.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 200.232.140.1;
range 200.232.140.20 200.232.140.200;
}
subnet 172.16.255.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 172.16.255.1;
range 172.16.255.20 172.16.255.200;
}
}
Now how can I tell the dhcp server to only allocate 172.16.255
addresses to vr0 and 200.232.140.0 to sk0?
Thank you very much.
Jeff
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Re: beck's greyscanner for spamd 4.1
It's good to see I'm not the only one;-) I checked the archives and I must have missed the memo. Here shows an updated version: http://www.ualberta.ca/~beck/greyscanner/ Ah, thanks. I've googled for greyscanner and found only beck@'s presentation... But now I see it.. thanks ;)
Re: dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
The following:
$ sudo tcpdump -i vr0 port bootpc || port bootps tcpdump -i sk0 port
bootpc || port bootps
$ sudo dhcpd -vf
$ sudo netstat -tan|egrep -i 67|68
~BAS
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Jeff Santos wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to setup a DHCP server on a multi-homed firewall. One of the
interfaces is vr0 and should supply addresses 172.16.255.x/24. The other
is sk0 and should supply 200.232.140.x/24.
My /etc/dhcpd.interfaces looks like
sk0
vr0
My /etc/dhcpd.conf looks like
shared-network LOCAL-NET {
option domain-name-servers 200.232.140.1;
subnet 200.232.140.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 200.232.140.1;
range 200.232.140.20 200.232.140.200;
}
subnet 172.16.255.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 172.16.255.1;
range 172.16.255.20 172.16.255.200;
}
}
Now how can I tell the dhcp server to only allocate 172.16.255
addresses to vr0 and 200.232.140.0 to sk0?
Thank you very much.
Jeff
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keyboard map configuration
I use ksh under OpenBSD/arm 4.1 and noticed that command line history feature (up-arrow) suddenly stopped working. Pressing up-arrow inserts control code, but command completion (tab-key) works fine. `kbd -l` doesn't list any map and attempt to do `kbd en` returns error. I was under impression that keyboard maps defined in kernel, so I am not sure how is it possible to 'lose' mapping. Any help troubleshooting this problem is appreciated. Alex
Re: ThinkPad T41p suspend is fine from console, hangs from X
On Jun 12, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118157353605570w=1 I wrote # I have a problem with suspend-to-RAM on an IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T41p # running OpenBSD 4.1-stable. Basically, suspend-to-RAM works fine if # I'm not running X, but hangs the system if I'm running X. My basic # question is, has anyone gotten suspend-to-RAM to work while X is # running on a T41p, and if so, how did you do it? I think I may have experienced the same problem as you on my ThinkPad R40 and ThinkPad X24. When you say your system hangs, does your screen go blank except for a blinking cursor in the top-left corner? I run into this all the time when the BIOS is set to put the computer to sleep when the lid is closed and I'm running X (or KDE or Gnome or whatever on X) My extensive searching the web leads me to believe it's a driver issue. I come to this conclusion because I have seen many, many reports of identical symptoms on various Linux boards where the solution has been to update nvidia or ati drivers and the problem disappears. Unfortunately, I am not a skilled enough coder, nor do I have the time, to learn the inner workings of X and OpenBSD display drivers to properly diagnose and solve the problem. :( My solution has been to disable the setting in the BIOS that puts the computer sleep when I close the lid. -- Freedom, truth, love, beauty. John Rodenbiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pkg_add on macppc stall at end of ftp
Hi, Not sure if this is a new problem, or specific to 4.1 on powerpc, or all architecture. But I setup a few times an old iMac for my sun that really wanted to try OpenBSD desktop setup and so far loved it! (; In the process of installing packages on it, I always have the same issue recurring at various places, but always constant however. I can do pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.1/packages/`machine -a`/enlightenment-0.16.7.2p2.tgz or many other packages, like the kdebase-3.5.6.tgz, etc. All goes well, but some dependency will stop and freeze the download when all is finish and the screen display 100%, or sometime 96% and nothing happen after that. looking at top, etc. I see that the process of download is really finish and the only ting I do is to kill the ftp process, nothing else and then the pkg_add process continue as normal and all is install properly, etc. This happen on many packages, sometime twice in the same process out or 50 for example. I never had to do this before and I haven't tested, or have problem on i386 or AMD64 yet. I am not saying there is issue on them, or that there isn't either. I haven't tested that yet as I install a much limited number of packages on my servers and never did I experience this problem yet. I don't know if that's following many changes to the pkg_add that was done for 4.1 and definitely continue heavy now from source-changes@, but I thought to pass that along and if you need more details, I could provide some. Didn't try current yet as the kid spend a lots of time ready the FAQ to get this going and I had to help out because of the issue on the powerpc install not creating the MSDOS partition properly for the i one. I have to follow step by step the process here: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ppcm=117871289207004w=2 Meaning trick the disklabel to get it going. Best, Daniel
Re: dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
#/etc/dhcpd.conf
option domain-name-servers 200.232.140.1;
subnet 200.232.140.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 200.232.140.1;
range 200.232.140.20 200.232.140.200;
}
subnet 172.16.255.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 172.16.255.1;
range 172.16.255.20 172.16.255.200;
}
Re: dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
Hi,
Thank you.
Although I did not understand your recommendation.
My problem is that for some reason, DHCP server is allocating IP
addresses from the subnet 200.232.140.0 for stations in the
172.16.255.0 segment. I would like to control which addresses
should be given to each segment.
Regards,
Jeff.
- Original Message -
From: Brian A. Seklecki
To: Jeff Santos
Subject: Re: dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:25:24 -0400 (EDT)
The following:
$ sudo tcpdump -i vr0 port bootpc || port bootps tcpdump -i
sk0 port bootpc || port bootps
$ sudo dhcpd -vf
$ sudo netstat -tan|egrep -i 67|68
~BAS
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Jeff Santos wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to setup a DHCP server on a multi-homed firewall. One of the
interfaces is vr0 and should supply addresses 172.16.255.x/24. The other
is sk0 and should supply 200.232.140.x/24.
My /etc/dhcpd.interfaces looks like
sk0
vr0
My /etc/dhcpd.conf looks like
shared-network LOCAL-NET {
option domain-name-servers 200.232.140.1;
subnet 200.232.140.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 200.232.140.1;
range 200.232.140.20 200.232.140.200;
}
subnet 172.16.255.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 172.16.255.1;
range 172.16.255.20 172.16.255.200;
}
}
Now how can I tell the dhcp server to only allocate 172.16.255
addresses to vr0 and 200.232.140.0 to sk0?
Thank you very much.
Jeff
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A question about OpenBSD
I am downloading OpenBSD 4.2, I know how to use everything in that but being young I am not too sure about the checksum format, md5 tends to rule the world these days. What is it called exactly? I'm stuck with a Windows box at the moment, otherwise some thought and pressing tab a couple of times would probably help me :p. I probably just need to RTFM and I can make sure these FTP transfers actually went down alright (I'm guessing they did but my router is a D-Link turd that crashes and reboots itself sometimes). If any files have failed ill just have to download them again. John. -- Faced with the fact that Intelligent Design doesn't meet the criteria for a scientific theory, leading proponent redefines what a scientific theory is. Result: Astrology now a scientific theory.
Re: dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
Jeff Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now how can I tell the dhcp server to only allocate 172.16.255 addresses to vr0 and 200.232.140.0 to sk0? The two ranges are not subnets of a larger net you control. Put them in separate 'shared-network' definitions and see if that doesn't get you what you want. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: dhcp server with 2 interfaces and 2 different subnets
On 2007/06/12 16:41, Jeff Santos wrote:
My problem is that for some reason, DHCP server is allocating IP
addresses from the subnet 200.232.140.0 for stations in the
172.16.255.0 segment. I would like to control which addresses
should be given to each segment.
Well, describing the problem is a good start and was missing from
your first message...
shared-network LOCAL-NET {
This is only needed in rare cases as described in dhcpd.conf(5),
try removing it and restarting dhcpd.
If this doesn't help, please send ifconfig -A (and if any bridges
are configured, also brconfig -A).
troubleshooting a core dump
I have a mail server that has been running fine for a couple years running 3.7 and has recently started crashing every couple days. I know that it's well beyond the support window, but if someone can help me out using gdb/ddb to figure out the problem I'd appreciate it. I've got the bsd.n[.core] files and have tinkered with them a little (just following what's in the crash(8) manpage). Specifically I'm having trouble with the Crash Location Determination section using ddb, which says: First, in ddb(4) find the function that caused the crash. It is either the function at the top of the traceback or the function under the call to panic() or uvm_fault(). How do I find the function that caused it? I'm sure it's probably a memory thing but I figure this would be a good chance to learn some deeper troubleshooting techniques. :-) --Bryan
Re: keyboard map configuration
On 6/12/07, Alex Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use ksh under OpenBSD/arm 4.1 and noticed that command line history feature (up-arrow) suddenly stopped working. Pressing up-arrow inserts control code, but command completion (tab-key) works fine. `kbd -l` doesn't list any map and attempt to do `kbd en` returns error. I was under impression that keyboard maps defined in kernel, so I am not sure how is it possible to 'lose' mapping. Any help troubleshooting this problem is appreciated. Have you rebooted? What does `wsconsctl keyboard.map` show? -Nick
Re: A question about OpenBSD
John Tate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am downloading OpenBSD 4.2, I know how to use everything in that but being young I am not too sure about the checksum format, md5 tends to rule the world these days. You're a bit early for 4.2, the closest you'll get is 4.1-current snapshots these days. In the same directory where you find the OpenBSD install files for your platform, you will also find two files called CKSUM and MD5, which contain checksums and MD5 sums, respectively for the files in the directory. You can use the md5 or cksum commands to generate sums and check that the results are the same on your local copy as the one listed in the files (paranoids can fetch checksum files and install files from different mirrors) I'm stuck with a Windows box at the moment, otherwise some thought and pressing tab a couple of times would probably help me :p. IIRC both md5 and chksum are available in Windows versions. I probably just need to RTFM and I can make sure these FTP transfers actually went down alright (I'm guessing they did but my router is a D-Link turd that crashes and reboots itself sometimes). If any files have failed ill just have to download them again. See if you can get hold of an ftp client which supports file resume. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: pkg_add on macppc stall at end of ftp
Maybe the FTP control connection is timing out before the data connection, the fetch(1)/ftp(1) cant gracefully send a disconnect command? Try HTTP instead? I think that you can set FETCH_COMMAND or FTP_COMMAND or FETCH_CMD ?= /usr/bin/ftp -V -m To enable debugging Use tcpdump(8) if things get back. ~BAS On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Hi, Not sure if this is a new problem, or specific to 4.1 on powerpc, or all architecture. But I setup a few times an old iMac for my sun that really wanted to try OpenBSD desktop setup and so far loved it! (; In the process of installing packages on it, I always have the same issue recurring at various places, but always constant however. I can do pkg_add ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.1/packages/`machine -a`/enlightenment-0.16.7.2p2.tgz or many other packages, like the kdebase-3.5.6.tgz, etc. All goes well, but some dependency will stop and freeze the download when all is finish and the screen display 100%, or sometime 96% and nothing happen after that. looking at top, etc. I see that the process of download is really finish and the only ting I do is to kill the ftp process, nothing else and then the pkg_add process continue as normal and all is install properly, etc. This happen on many packages, sometime twice in the same process out or 50 for example. I never had to do this before and I haven't tested, or have problem on i386 or AMD64 yet. I am not saying there is issue on them, or that there isn't either. I haven't tested that yet as I install a much limited number of packages on my servers and never did I experience this problem yet. I don't know if that's following many changes to the pkg_add that was done for 4.1 and definitely continue heavy now from source-changes@, but I thought to pass that along and if you need more details, I could provide some. Didn't try current yet as the kid spend a lots of time ready the FAQ to get this going and I had to help out because of the issue on the powerpc install not creating the MSDOS partition properly for the i one. I have to follow step by step the process here: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ppcm=117871289207004w=2 Meaning trick the disklabel to get it going. Best, Daniel l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail? ~Maynard James Keenan
Re: A question about OpenBSD
On 2007/06/13 07:48, John Tate wrote: I am downloading OpenBSD 4.2 4.2, that's impressive (-: I know how to use everything in that but being young I am not too sure about the checksum format, md5 tends to rule the world these days. What is it called exactly? You mean, in CKSUM? Cyclic redundancy check. See cksum(1).
Re: A question about OpenBSD
On 6/12/07, John Tate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am downloading OpenBSD 4.2, I know how to use everything in that but being young I am not too sure about the checksum format, md5 tends to rule the world these days. What is it called exactly? I'm confused, what exactly are you asking? If its how to check a checksum, then read md5(1), cksum(1), otherwise be more clear.
Re: A question about OpenBSD
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, John Tate wrote: I am downloading OpenBSD 4.2, I know how to use everything in that but being young I am not too sure about the checksum format, md5 tends to rule the world these days. OpenBSD 4.2? perhaps you meant 4.1? What is it called exactly? what is What called exactly? I'm stuck with a Windows box at the moment, otherwise some thought and pressing tab a couple of times would probably help me :p. man pages? I probably just need to RTFM and I can make sure these FTP transfers actually went down alright (I'm guessing they did but my router is a D-Link turd that crashes and reboots itself sometimes). If any files have failed ill just have to download them again. d/l cd41.iso, burn CD, boot from CD, install across network. I'm doing something similar as I type with a Plextor landisk thingy. By the way you didn't mention the platform. John. g.day PS FWIW the vagueness of your e-mail verges on trollness, but I decided to reply anyway.
Re: RAIDFrame root autoconfig fails in -current
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 08:36:03AM -0400, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: I committed the diff to raidframe to 'fix' raidgetdisklabel() so it behaves/gets used like other drivers. It should be in snapshots after today. Unfortunately, this patch to rf_openbsdkintf.c didn't solve whatever problem I'm having ... even with softraid0 removed from the config. With this and the other disklabel changes going on, hammering at raidframe to uncover issues in odd cases (or normal cases for that matter) much appreciated.
FAT32 mount problem
Hello folks, After mounting a fat32 partition, the directory listings show everything in uppercase, except when a filename contains a combination of uppercase and lowercase characters or the extension is not 3 characters long, then it shows the names correctly. The uppercases are very annoying. Does anyone know how to make this work correctly? Thanks, Mark
Re: keyboard map configuration
Nick Guenther kousue at gmail.com writes: Have you rebooted? Yes. What does `wsconsctl keyboard.map` show? reiter# wsconsctl keyboard.map keyboard.map= keycode 0 = Control_L keycode 2 = Tab Tab Caps_Lock Caps_Lock keycode 3 = Cmd_Screen1 f2 F2 keycode 4 = Cmd_Screen0 f1 F1 keycode 5 = Cmd_Screen2 f3 F3 keycode 6 = Cmd_Screen3 f4 F4 keycode 8 = 1 exclam keycode 9 = 2 quotedbl keycode 10 = q Q keycode 11 = w W asciicircum asciicircum keycode 12 = a A keycode 13 = z Z keycode 14 = Cmd Alt_L keycode 16 = Cmd_BrightnessDown 3 numbersign keycode 17 = Cmd_BrightnessUp 4 dollar keycode 18 = e E equal equal keycode 19 = s S keycode 20 = d D grave grave keycode 21 = x X keycode 24 = 5 percent keycode 25 = r R plus plus keycode 26 = t T bracketleft bracketleft keycode 27 = f F backslash backslash keycode 28 = c C keycode 29 = minus minus at at keycode 30 = Cmd_Debugger Escape keycode 32 = 6 ampersand keycode 33 = y Y bracketright bracketright keycode 34 = g G semicolon semicolon keycode 35 = v V keycode 36 = b B underscore underscore keycode 37 = space keycode 38 = KP_Enter keycode 40 = 7 apostrophe keycode 41 = 8 parenleft keycode 42 = u U braceleft braceleft keycode 43 = h H colon colon keycode 44 = n N keycode 45 = comma slash less less keycode 46 = Cmd_Screen4 f5 F5 keycode 48 = 9 parenright keycode 49 = i I braceright braceright keycode 50 = j J asterisk asterisk keycode 51 = m M keycode 52 = period question greater greater keycode 54 = KP_Left KP_Left Home Home keycode 56 = 0 asciitilde keycode 57 = o O keycode 58 = k K keycode 59 = l L bar bar keycode 61 = KP_Up KP_Up Prior Prior keycode 62 = KP_Down KP_Down Next Next keycode 64 = Delete BackSpace keycode 65 = p P keycode 68 = Return keycode 70 = KP_Right KP_Right End End keycode 80 = KP_Right keycode 81 = KP_Down keycode 83 = Shift_R keycode 84 = Shift_L keycode 88 = KP_Left keycode 89 = KP_Up keycode 93 = Mode_switch reiter# kbd -l reiter# kbd en kbd: unknown encoding en The hardware is Sharp Zaurus (SL-3200) and all key mappings worked fine until few days ago. It coinsided with a system crash. Prior to that I haven't rebooted it for quite some time and were building lots of packages from ports. So its also possible that installation of one of the ports got the mapping screed up, but how is beyond me. Just in case here's the list of packes that I built: abs-0.8p1 free spreadsheet with graphical user interface amap-5.2p1 next generation scanning tool apg-2.2.3p0 automated password generator atk-1.10.3p2accessibility toolkit used by gtk+ autoconf-2.13p0 automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms autoconf-2.59p1 automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms blackbox-0.70.1 small pretty window manager for 8 and more bits displays brs-4.00l1 bible reader bsd-airtools-0.2p2 wireless auditing suite bzip2-1.0.4 block-sorting file compressor, unencumbered cairo-1.2.6 vector graphics library cbb-0.73p1 checkbook balancing tool ccrypt-1.7p1encrypt and decrypt AES files and streams clex-3.13 commandline shell and file manager d1489-1.4 cp866koi8-r cp1251koi8-r decoders and font converter db-3.1.17p8 Berkeley DB package, revision 3 db-4.2.52p11Berkeley DB package, revision 4 deco-3.8.3p0Demos Commander, a free Norton Commander clone dillo-0.8.6p0 Fast and light gtk-based web browser dsniff-2.3p2sniffing tools for penetration testing elinks-0.11.2 full-featured text WWW browser expat-2.0.0 XML 1.0 parser written in C freetype-1.3.1p3free and portable TrueType font rendering engine fvwm2+fvicons-2.4.19p0 multiple virtual desktop window manager, with icons gacc-0.7.5 personal accounts manager gdbm-1.8.3p0GNU dbm gettext-0.14.6 GNU gettext ghostscript-fonts-8.11 35 standard PostScript fonts with Adobe name aliases glib-1.2.10p1 useful routines for C programming glib2-2.10.3p0 general-purpose utility library glitz-0.5.6 OpenGL image compositing library gmake-3.80p1GNU make gmp-4.2.1 library for arbitrary precision arithmetic gnuchess-5.07 Classic Gnu Chess gone-1.3.5 terminal locking utility gtk+-1.2.10p4 General Toolkit for X11 GUI gtk+2-2.8.20p3 multi-platform graphical toolkit help2man-1.29 GNU help2man hicolor-icon-theme-0.9 high-color icon theme shell for GNOME and KDE imlib-1.9.14p4 image manipulation library for X11 ion-20070203light, keyboard friendly window manager jasper-1.701.0p1reference implementation of JPEG-2000 jbigkit-1.6p1 lossless image compression library jpeg-6bp3 IJG's JPEG compression utilities konqueror-20060121p0 stand-alone Qt-based web browser lcms-1.15 color management library ledger-2.3 command line double-entry accounting ledger libdnet-1.10p2 portable low-level networking library libfakekey-0.1p0
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Things to try (in any order you please): 1. check IDE cables 2. check whether Master/Slave/CS settings are correct 3. In case Brian is right, you might want to put CD on the same cable as hd0, to slow-down IDE. 4. also check where you disks are connected - to IDE bus or to ATA-133 controller on the board. Sometimes it does make a difference. 5. my BIOS was updated to the latest one, as there was some bug about large hard disks not working correctly (your ones seem to be 120G, so it is unlikely BIOS is a problem here). 6. the last step would be to try another harddisk. Or (just got this idea) you could simply try ftp install. If CD-rom reader is bad, boot from CD but install from ftp - this would definitely rule out the 'bad cd-rom drive' hypothesis :) I just tried the ftp install. Same problem, same location. I have tried another hard disk, same approximate size. Same problem, same location. I am going to look for any bios updates online, if I can find any. I will also be checking the cables, master/slave/cs settings, and cd + hd0 on same cable. As for IDE bus or ATA-133 controller on board, the cables are connected to the std ide0 and ide1 connectors on the motherboard. When you say IDE bus, are you referring to another connector? JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: keyboard map configuration
This issue has been resolved. It turned out that I lost 'set -o emacs' somehow... I still don't understand why `kbd -l` doesn't list any maps, but can live with that :) Thanks to all who replied to my post on and off the list. Alex
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Peter, google turns up a few references on various BSD mailing list for the search string OpenBSD ffs_valloc: dup alloc. No clear cut solutions, but the popular suspicion runs in the direction of buggy (S)ATA controllers or, of course, possibly subtle, hard to trigger bugs in the operating system's controller support code. Swapping out motherboards could be unpleasant, but seeing that the error occurs at pretty much exactly the same spot on the CDs, have you tried swapping out the CD/DVD drive for a different unit? I tried loading the sets via ftp, same error, same location. JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: openbsd 3.9, openbsd 4.0 install errors, most likely hardware
Brian, I've seen this before. On old HP gear. Is your HP? Only FreeBSD would run on the system. NetBSD/OpenBSD dead in the water. Some obscure bug when the I/O went up (Symbios SCSI). One of many reason why I want nothing to do with HP (H-PHUX) ever again. Anyway, how about underclocking your Duron some? Reset the BIOS timings and power levels to failsafe? The old K7+VIA Chipset boards were a rough crowd. This is a custom white box server, all put together. It is not an HP. I will try to reset the bios timings and power levels. JohnM On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, John Mendenhall wrote: openbsd gurus, As my saga continues... I have a newly built server on which I am attempting to install openbsd 4.0. Problems occurred on install of sets, where comp set keeps throwing errors. Suggestion was made that it was probably a bad CD. Try a previous CD of an earlier version. I had 3.9 available. The logs of the attempts are posted at: http://www.surfutopia.net/openbsd/ The logs are separated by the boot log, an install log not including the install of the sets, and two passes of the install of the sets, all dying in the comp set install. I have two drives in the server. I only installed on one (wd0). I have had the same types of errors when only installing on the second (wd1). So, it is most likely not a problem with the specific drive. However, the probability could exist. So, based on these logs, from different openbsd cd versions, my hypothesis is there is some weird sort of hardware problem. My question is, what tools do you all use to determine where the hardware problem could be? I have already ran the memory through the memtests. There is not a problem there. I am willing to try (almost) anything to play around with this. I would like to get the server up and running so I can move on to the next one. No time pressure, though. Thank you in advance for any pointers you can provide. Thanks! JohnM -- john mendenhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf utopia internet services
Re: Spamd variation
From what I understand from the post, you are suggesting a scheme similar to what snort2pf is doing for snort and pf. In layman terms, when snort issues an alert, snort2pf informs pf about the attacker's IP, and pf takes an action. AFAIK, this is currently the only way to convert snort from an IDS into an IPS on OpenBSD (snort inline works only on Linux, if I'm not mistaken). Similarly, when SpamAssassin or DSPAM determine that an e-mail is spam, (again in layman terms) they inform spamd about the spammer IP and then-after that IP is handled by spamd. Please beware this scheme does not require any change to spamd functioning. And if implemented, it could save processing resources of the system, because the spammers which are not in any blacklist could be dynamically added to the spamd blacklists and could not reach content scanners like SpamAssassin and DSPAM, which are much more expensive in terms of processing resources. Probably a simple shell script could do the job, which would look at SpamAssassin logs to find out the spam score and IP address, and insert into spamd blacklists as necessary. The only caveat is that threshold spam score for blacklisting should be kept very high to prevent inserting false positives into spamd blacklist. In my experience spamd is very successful, but SpamAssassin catches some spam e-mails that spamd misses occasionally. (After all, OpenBSD maillists also use both, see http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html). Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the OP's point was missed in the other replies. I also would like to know what people at misc@ think about such a scheme. On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 03:04 -0700, Praveen wrote: Hi, From the man page it appears that spamd relies on static information about spam originators. Why not a more dynamic scheme ?. Why not run the content of the mail through a spam detector (like dspam), find the spam score and make decisions based on that. I know that spam detection is no where near perfect but it can be used for assigning a 'badness score' to a site(originator of email). So a site keeps getting this score and the average (per msg) exceeds a we black list the site for fixed duration. Similarly for white listing. 'Badness score' and also be assigned for other things, like trying to send to non-existant user (a typical spammer probe), absence of mx entry etc. A milter(sendmail/postfix) can be implemented for this. Thus decisions will be more dynamic and 'configuration free'. Does this sound reasonable ?
Re: Spamd variation
On 6/12/07, Soner Tari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably a simple shell script could do the job, which would look at SpamAssassin logs to find out the spam score and IP address, and insert into spamd blacklists as necessary. The only caveat is that threshold spam score for blacklisting should be kept very high to prevent inserting false positives into spamd blacklist. In my experience spamd is very successful, but SpamAssassin catches some spam e-mails that spamd misses occasionally. (After all, OpenBSD maillists also use both, see http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html). Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the OP's point was missed in the other replies. I also would like to know what people at misc@ think about such a scheme. I think you summed it up; no modifications to spamd are necessary, your post-spamd filters can modify blacklists directly with a little ingenuity and some script-fu. Remember, it's unix. Modular. Pieces. Simplicity. DS
Re: A question about OpenBSD
On 6/12/07, John Tate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am downloading OpenBSD 4.2, I know how to use everything in that but being young I am not too sure about the checksum format, md5 tends to rule the world these days. What is it called exactly? I'm stuck with a Windows box at the moment, otherwise some thought and pressing tab a couple of times would probably help me :p. I probably just need to RTFM and I can make sure these FTP transfers actually went down alright (I'm guessing they did but my router is a D-Link turd that crashes and reboots itself sometimes). If any files have failed ill just have to download them again. John, you might want to consider purchasing the official OpenBSD 4.1 CD set. In your case, it may save you a lot of time and trouble with your downloading problems. Plus, you'll get cool stickers and printed installation instructions. Last, but not least, you'll be supporting the project! http://openbsd.org/items.html -Todd
Load balancing with DSR
Hi, Anyone know of any load balancing software for OpenBSD that can do direct-server return? (our load balancers (openbsd boxes) are co-located and we pay for all data bandwidth). Something like BalanceNG (which unfortunately doesnt run on OpenBSD) woudl be ideal. It is generally for http layer requests but I don't think apache re-directs will suffice. Cheers, Linden.
Re: Load balancing with DSR
On 6/12/07, Linden Varley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is generally for http layer requests but I don't think apache re-directs will suffice. You may want to look at pound. A lot of people seem to like it. -- This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.
Re: Load balancing with DSR
Linden Varley wrote: Anyone know of any load balancing software for OpenBSD that can do direct-server return? (our load balancers (openbsd boxes) are co-located and we pay for all data bandwidth). hoststated? --- Lars Hansson
Re: OpenBSD router playing up
Hi Guys, Its been stable since I sent the msg, and I can't replicate at will :( I have setup SNMP and am monitoring with MRTG, so will keep an eye on that. If it happens again, will run a few of the suggested commands, but until then I sit and wait... Thanks again for your suggestions... Karl On 6/7/07, Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pfctl -x loud when the SHTF pfctl -s and netstat -s Net-SNMP + MRTG on your interfaces? Any errors on netstat -i ? ~BAS On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Open Phugu wrote: On 6/5/07, Karl Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have a strange issue. We are using a OpenBSD 3.9 box running on an AMD64 CPU. Its doing BGP with our upstream provider and has some basic pf rules. Occasionally, the network slows to a crawl. I setup some external monitoring, and while a few simple HTTP checks of boxes on our network normally take a second or 2 (from 2 separate locations outside our network), this just went up to over 100 seconds and was only resolved by restarting the box. I'm learning this stuff, so am super keen if a) this is normal behavior (I'm guessing not) and b) how can I work out what is causing the problems? I've checked messages, and there is nothing strange in there (just some ftp-proxy 'client reset connection' and 'server refused connection' messages) and daemon (a few BGP updates not many). On restart, I get a flood of BGP updates. Where should I be looking? Should I just restart bgpd next time or does this seem like something else?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Post your dmesg, the contents of /etc/pf.conf and your BGP configuration file. Doing so will not solve your issue but it will give other members of the list more information about your setup. l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail? ~James Maynard Keenan
Spamd tarpit question
Hi, I have checked the archives and searched online but not quite found what I'm about to ask, and yet can't believe I'm the first one to ask this question. I have several domains and look after equipment (including mail systems) for several clients. All have their own primary and backup mail systems - some Postfix, some Exchange, some Symantec Mail Security. All clients have two or three valid MX records. We see a lot of spam targeting high-pref MX records. Some domains have a highest-pref MX record for a host that doesn't exist, meaning some of this spam tries to connect to a host that doesn't exist, and wastes a little of their time. I'm wondering if a common spamd tarpit across all domains and clients - judicious use of -b and -4 and -s options should do the trick - sitting at this highest-pref MX might give me some information on email addresses that get targeted for spam, and tie up the spamming hosts for a period of time, and also (perhaps slightly) reduce spam that gets targeted at valid mail systems. It should also have the advantage of requiring no change - other than one DNS record - for each client. I have taken a vanilla 4.1-RELEASE i386 box, set sendmail_flags=NO and spamd_flags=-p 25 -b -4 -s 2, but I'm not seeing the behaviour I would expect (primarily the '-s' option I'm getting immediate reponse from spamd). Ideally I want a setup that does not accept mail for local delivery, requires no ongoing configuration changes, but just takes its time with connections and then returns a 45x try again later message. If this question has been asked before (or is documented elsewhere) please point me in that direction, and please feel free to suggest improvements (or flaws) with this idea, and why I might be seeing the immediate response rather than the one-character-every-three- seconds behaviour. Thanks, Kevin -- Bad web design can hurt your business! Click to hire a professional http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/CAaCXv1RYWfdyDg4DWC1FPzUZ9B5N7bk/
Re: Spamd tarpit question
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:19:21 +1200 Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007/06/13 15:36, Kevin Nelson wrote: We see a lot of spam targeting high-pref MX records. Did you notice -M? No (well yes, but mis-read low priority MX as low preference MX), good point, I'll take a look. Kevin -- Click to generate a targeted mailing list to grow your business http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/CAaCXv1S2s5hgBz4ncygj1ViHwvcGd4u/
Re: Load balancing with DSR
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:54:58 +0800 Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linden Varley wrote: Anyone know of any load balancing software for OpenBSD that can do direct-server return? (our load balancers (openbsd boxes) are co-located and we pay for all data bandwidth). hoststated? No, hoststated won't do DSR yet, neither will any load balancers on OpenBSD. DSR needs Layer 2 trickery that is not possible with OpenBSD. Maybe someday, it is on my todo-list if I find a clean way to do it.
Re: FAT32 mount problem
On 6/12/07, Mark Voortman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, After mounting a fat32 partition, the directory listings show everything in uppercase, except when a filename contains a combination of uppercase and lowercase characters or the extension is not 3 characters long, then it shows the names correctly. The uppercases are very annoying. Does anyone know how to make this work correctly? No. As far as I know, the OpenBSD FAT driver just does that. It's annoying, but the FAT driver doesn't get much love (which shouldn't be too surprising). So, to answer you question in the technical and typical way of this list: submit a patch. -Nick
