[PEDA] Something different: placing components from file -SMD verification

a different library (one that has the same rotations/polarities as the SMD machine is setup for) -find any problems, fix them, then generate the final PIK files Does anyone know of away to do this? maybe a better way or have written a server that could be easily modified? Thanks, Darryl Harrison [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] URGENT!!!

Perhaps the polygons have been turned off, this has caught me out when I have not had enough coffee. Tools/ Preferences/ Show/Hide -polygons 'hidden' Cheers, Darryl Harrison -Original Message- From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:28 AM

[PEDA] synchronizer question

automatically skeptical when I see broad subjective claims like powerful synchronizer. Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Blazie, a division of Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl #3 Stuart, FL 34997 (561) 223 6443 x2015 tel (561) 223 6413 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com

[PEDA] Altium - Install it, Run it, Crash it!

I don't know whether this is good or bad or no effect. I see the list price on Protel is now up to $7995!! Also I guess the stock is doing well in the Aussie Exchange, so they have lots of cash to fund even MORE acquisitions and add MORE bloated hi-brow management layers. (Gosh doesn't that

[PEDA] interactive routing questions

Hello listers, A couple of questions: 1) How do you Drag a group of selected track segments while rubberbanding to the non-selected segments? 2) The Push object mode moves the pushed track segment endpoints off the routing grid, can this be corrected? TIA! Darryl Newberry Hardware

[PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

for the problem? Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Blazie, a division of Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl #3 Stuart, FL 34997 (561) 223 6443 x2015 tel (561) 223 6413 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

If I may pose the question another way: Has anybody on the list _actually_used_ the Protel SI package to evaluate waveforms? What was your experience, was it useful in isolating problems? Did you have any issues with configuration or operation? Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Blazie

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

-in/on that integrates with either Protel or Specctra--one that actually works? 2) Since I have to keep on using Protel, should I get a dual CPU workstation? What specs for W2K? Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

, 2001 5:08 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up. works? 2) Since I have to keep on using Protel, should I get a dual CPU workstation? What specs for W2K? Darryl, Get two computers. One to do Sim and routing and one for layout. I started with a dual CPU

[PEDA] Protel Specctra interface Haiku

I add teardrop arcs I export into Specctra Arcs now rectangles Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http://www.freedomscientific.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

Be wary of the AMP connectors, last I checked they were going obso. I could be wrong or out of date. I have two Amp CF connectors (788643 788667), a Hirosa (MI20-40-PD-SF, I think), and a Sametc (CFT) smt connectors for CompactFlash. Let me know if you want 'em. Jeff Stout * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint

I have a JST # ICM-MA50H-SS52-1151 Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 http://www.freedomscientific.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

Download it from http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/CELOGO/ce_logo.html sarcastically Anybody ever heard of this newfangled thing called an internet search engine? www.google.com Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ? Darryl, I have found Copernic (www.copernic.com) most useful for general searches. It has a free basic version. I believe Partminer (www.partminer.com) and its associated Free Trade Zone are pretty good too. I use http

Re: [PEDA] Camtastic or Protel?

Pardon my ignorance...What's a mousebite? A cute name for a break-apart slot? I'm thinking it might be good to add the support bars and mousebites in Protel, then panelize in Camtastic and just connect the board together... Darryl Newberry Hardware Engineer Freedom Scientific, Inc 2850 SE

Re: [PEDA] Creating/implementing IC socket PCB decals

Perhaps this is over simplistic, but... As long as the socket and component PCB footprints match, you can put the appropriate socket part number in a schematic symbol Part Field and include the field on the BOM report. You will also have to add a note on the BOM (or have an in-house convention)

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

will be punished by a free market. Unless of course you have 92% market share and the DOJ/FTC in your pocket like some *really* big software companies. Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 tel (561) 223-6413 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com All

Re: [PEDA] Using 3D and a 3D bug...

Fred, The Protel 3D stuff is useless as tits on a boar. For visualizing the PCB assembly, I use and recommend View3D from http://www.qualecad.com. It's about $500. The rendering is a little slow but it works well enough. It associates VRML models with your PCB footprints. There are basic

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

was not at all impressed with the Protel AR. Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 tel (561) 223-6413 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com All information contained or disclosed herein is proprietary and confidential to Freedom Scientific. Opinions expressed

Re: [PEDA] dual-sided connector footprint ??

What does didn't want to cooperate mean? That you couldn't flip it? You should be able to have any mix of top, bottom, and multi pads on any given footprint. Seems pretty simple--just modify the pad properties in the pcb library editor. -Original Message- From: Robison Michael R CNIN

Re: [PEDA] Using Client Spreadsheets to update schematics

More on the subject of export to Client Spreadsheet/Excel for tabular edit/update. Hopefully this will clarify for all. 1. Open the schematic (top level sheet if hierarchical). 2. Export to spreadsheet--this runs the client spreadsheet creation wizard. 3. Choose All Off, Part, OK, then check

[PEDA] Synchronizer Mystery

suggestions on how to correct this? Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 tel (561) 223-6413 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com All information contained or disclosed herein is proprietary and confidential to Freedom Scientific. Opinions expressed

Re: [PEDA] Synchronizer Mystery

but the pin names (same as pin numbers) were not. Would be nice to have a pin number cross-check when creating the part. Thanks to all who replied so quickly. This list is truly value added! Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 tel (561) 223-6413 fax

Re: [PEDA] Good Dual head video card combination for Protel.

are there to take advantage of two dissimilar displays with P99SE? Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 2850 SE Market Pl Stuart FL 34997 (561) 223-6443 tel (561) 223-6413 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com All information contained or disclosed herein is proprietary and confidential to Freedom Scientific

Re: [PEDA] Good Dual head video card combination for Protel.

. From: Darryl Newberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I just bought and installed an ATI Xpert 128 (16MB) for USD $50. I'm now running dual monitors under Win2K on a Dell Optiplex GX110 (733 MHz P2) with integrated video (Intel 82810E chipset), P99SE, 256MB RDRAM

Re: [PEDA] multi sheet problems

like once a day, the schematic and the PCB get wildly out of sync, and the resynchronize reports all sorts of things it can't match. I close all files and restart Protel, and then the netlist and all synchronize functions work fine. Yeah I know what you mean. I'm cruising down the road at

Re: [PEDA] Countersunk holes

Edi, A countersunk hole is simply a normal right cylindrical through-hole with an additional right conical section removed for accepting a flat head screw. The cone angle is typically 82 or 100 degrees. The diameter of the smaller end of the conical section is the same size as the hole and the

Re: [PEDA] BOM question

Has anybody here ever integrated Parts Vendors (http://www.trilogydesign.com) with Protel 99SE? Advice? Comments? Recommendations? -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 14:13 To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Multiple database users

Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 20:31 To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multiple database users Darryl Sounds like you are attempting to have 2 different people do 2 different things to the same file at the same time (under the new

Re: [PEDA] Multiple database users

, even for connectors. You could easily get into serious confusion though...but hey, it didn't prevent you from doing so! :-) Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 11800 31st Court N St Petersburg FL 33716 (727) 803-8000 tel (727) 803-8001 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com

Re: [PEDA] Solder Mask Removal

Masks are negative layers. Copy the polygon to the desired mask layer. Presto, a void is created in shape of the polygon. -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 16:02 To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] Solder Mask

[PEDA] Protel on XP [was: Win2000]

We have been using Protel 99SE SP6 on a Dell Dimension 1.7G, XP Pro, with no performance or stability problems for about 2 weeks now. Solid! We are also sharing the DDB from the Dell, no problems except the remote Win2000 station has to open the DDB first. Don't know if this is OS related.

Re: [PEDA] terminology: ratsnest

The common rat (e.g. Rattus norvegicus) builds its nest out of any handy material such as twigs, grass, or leaves. The result has a chaotic, jumbled appearance. It is just another quirky Anglicism to say that something looks like a rat's nest. This all started back when printed circuits were

[PEDA] early days of PCB design

I found a fascinating rant on the early use of Bishop Graphics, Chartpack/Letraset pre-cut tracks/pads, red vs. blue tape, US Mil Standard 275-D, etc. at http://www.cia.com.au/rcsradio/rcscadph.txt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL

[PEDA] PCB history

A much better and more complete site on the history of the printed circuit. http://www.pcfab.com/history.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html

Re: [PEDA] Accel vs. protel

I heartily concur with Mr Watnoski regarding PCAD superior ease of use and niceness and sensibility. And no, I am not a newbie, I was a longtime PCAD user (going back to MD 4.x, that's 1988 kids) and then PADS/DOS for a couple of years, then more recently ACCEL/Tango v13 for about 3 years, now

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE and Phoenix [was Performance difference be tween 2 of the same machines]

, changing PCB packages with 4 engineers at the same time would seriously impact productivity and therefore schedules. And as everybody knows, schedule is king! Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 11800 31st Court N St Petersburg FL 33716 (727) 803-8000 tel (727) 803-8001 fax http

Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . .

-Rahman Lomax [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 14 posts Afshin Salehi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 1 post Anthony Whitesell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]1 post Brad Velander [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]1 post [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 post Darryl Newberry

[PEDA] IPC-D-356 problem

or the board house system is strictly compliant on this point. I don't have a copy of IPC-D-356, so can anybody confirm? Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 11800 31st Court N St Petersburg FL 33716 (727) 803-8000 tel (727) 803-8001 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com

Re: [PEDA] IPC-D-356 problem

have a IPC-D-356 for dummies word document that I can forward to you if you like, maybe that will help. - Original Message - From: Darryl Newberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [PEDA] IPC-D-356 problem

Re: [PEDA] DVI specification [was Digital flat panel connector]

You can download the DVI 1.0 spec at ddwg.org. It's free, all you have to do is fill out a form. http://www.ddwg.org/downloads.html -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 19:29 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re:

[PEDA] Using Client Spreadsheets to update schematics

More on the subject of export to Client Spreadsheet/Excel for tabular edit/update. Hopefully this will clarify for all. 1. Open the schematic (top level sheet if hierarchical). 2. Export to spreadsheet--this runs the client spreadsheet creation wizard. 3. Choose All Off, Part, OK, then check

Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . . the response . . .

Perhaps. 1 out of 8? I'd say that is wider participation than I had thought. Given that I can afford to make a point to be here I couldn't resisttaking the ratio of all messages (6896) versus those submitted by Abdul (551), puts his contribution at 8.3% since I subscribed in May 2001.

Re: [PEDA] Using Client Spreadsheets to update schematics

I think it will work if you cut and paste the CSV file, then do text to columns, which lets you format the fields on the way in. -dn -Original Message- From: Bryn Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 07:43 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] What does printed circuit board mean to you?

Perhaps it's mere academic foolishness to state that, at high speeds, the wiring *itself* is a component. I guess what I really want to say is what's the point. I would hope that everybody who needs to know understands the difference. Certainly all the list participants. Another pointless

Re: [PEDA] autosave saves unchanged files - bug?

Yes, this is exactly the point I was making about having to turn it off while DDB sharing. I have also found that sharing actually changes the OS file permissions on folders. Very nasty. But not surprising. -Original Message- From: Dwight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [PEDA] Tie compoents(Ex: RF footprints)

Jeez, you guys do things the hard way, I just use a zero-ohm resistor, it's a standard part available from multiple sources in any size from 0201 up to 2512. This works especially well for maintaining multiple grounds with a single point tie. -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman

Re: [PEDA] Tie Components

Gerhard, P.E. E-M Designs, Inc. www.GerhardEng.com -Original Message- From: Darryl Newberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:23 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Tie compoents(Ex: RF footprints) Jeez, you guys do things the hard way, I

Re: [PEDA] PCB view from bottom of board??

mud-map LOL! But is this term IPC approved like PWA and PWB? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: *

Re: [PEDA] Protel and Windows XP

Do we assume XP Professional, or is anybody here running under XP Home? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 15:52 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel and Windows XP works fine for me.. -

Re: [PEDA] IPC 356 netlist

Those who would use Protel's IPC-D-356 netlist: BEWARE! Protel leaves the net name blank for uncommitted pads. Some systems will mis-interpret this and create a net which interconnects them all. The solution is to either manually edit the netlist after generation, or coordinate closely with your

Re: [PEDA] Pasting simulation graph into Word

It's cheaper than that and easier too: 1. make the window the top one 2. ctrl-alt-shift-Printscreen 3. paste into Word -Original Message- From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 15:59 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pasting simulation

Re: [PEDA] Severe library sharing problem

H. Compaq strikes again? -Original Message- From: Wayne Bickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 14:19 To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Severe library sharing problem I am at a place where we have a handful of engineers all using one

Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour Free speech shrink wrap

[OT link re: phoenix] http://www.stiltman.com/phoenix.htm -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 06:13 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour Free speech shrink wrap Ahhh yes, Phoenix... Does

Re: [PEDA] computer pauses

Set Polygon pour to Never. Then don't forget to repour them manually. -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 13:32 To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] computer pauses I know this has been discussed before, but I just

Re: [PEDA] PCI Schematic Symbol

Mr. Ellis was asking for a PCI connector schematic symbol, not the PCB footprint. It only takes a few minutes to create a simple rectangular symbol with consecutive pin numbers. You can get the pinout at http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_Pinouts1.html#PINOUTS_037. -Original Message-

Re: [PEDA] Parts and Vendors

Recommended for managing prototype and light mfg runs. Very easy and intuitive to use, can be shared amongst a few engineers, buyers, production, etc. I have been using it just for board BOMs but it appears to do the whole nine yards including ECOs, etc. I have heard that it doesn't handle

[PEDA] shared database issue

When sharing a DBB between multiple users, if you rename a file on one machine and then try to move or copy it on another machine, you get a immediate exit right after the typical inscrutable error dialog generated by the Access database engine. Upon restarting Protel and reloading the

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

I have to backpedal on the CTE differences, I jumped on it because the pure CTEs are that much different, all other things being equal. I have no idea what Ni-Au alloy CTE is vs Cu. I think Mr. Selfridge enumerates the more likely culprits. I have experienced some of those, albeit on MUCH larger

[PEDA] how to expend DIGEST mode

this to a single flat email containing all the postings for the day? Does anybody know of a way to handle (flatten) the attachment hierarchy in Outlook? Regards Darryl Newberry * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit

Re: [PEDA] Splitting a design to two PCBs

result in refdes and net name conflicts. Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 11800 31st Court N St Petersburg FL 33716 (727) 803-8000 tel (727) 803-8001 fax http://www.freedomscientific.com -Original Message- From: Michael Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 07

Re: [PEDA] Splitting a design to two PCBs

Mike, In my previous response I misunderstood your question. I had it the other way around, going two boards into one. Oops, sorry. Like the others posters are saying, keep the one schematic, add connectors to existing nets, and route the traces right across the cuts. I think you can ignore

Re: [PEDA] Importing .dfx files into Protel

You typed 'DFX'. Is this a typo? Is the file really in Design eXchange Format? Can you read it with a text viewer? It should look something like this at the top: 0 SECTION 2 HEADER 9 ... Darryl Newberry Freedom Scientific 11800 31st Court N St Petersburg FL 33716 (727) 803-8000 tel (727

Re: [PEDA] BOMs

Parts Vendors http://www.trilogydesign.com -Original Message- From: Don Mayfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 23:25 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] BOMs Hi All, I know BOM handling software has been talked about over time but I wonder if

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

, 2002 16:42 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!! Darryl Newberry wrote: Ah, but does Cadence offer semi-functional, non-extensible, and pathetically slw 3D viewing? Or automated online submission of your precious