, then they have influenced us in some way.
Peace be with you.David Miller.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:23
PM
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From:
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Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:23
PM
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Good question - it appears as though to some people
Taylor
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I'll accept Satan and the flesh David but - Augustine
and Calvin were not big in Australia when I was growing up.
Not in the
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Good question - it appears as though to some
people
I've been influenced by everything BUT the
Spirit of God.
I'd like to see the facts myself.
jt
On S
You.
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Taylor
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So Debbie do you believe ppl are led about
2005 7:19
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So Debbie do you believe ppl are led about by an
unconscious or subconscious mind or something like
that to whichAugustine, Calvin and the
enlightenment have heavy input? What proof do you have for thi
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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So Debbie do you believe ppl are led about by an
unconscious or subconscious mind or some
why would He
make that particular relatively tiny spot His dwelling place
DAVEH: Izzydo you believe the Lord dwells in you?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Blaine, Dont you think
that since God created the stars that we observe, He dwells outside of
that
realm? The Milky Way
Yes, but His throne doesnt. J iz
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why would He make that particular relatively tiny
spot His
JS also said there were men living on the Moon.
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Hey Iz, To my knowledge, Joseph Smith never said what color the sky
-- but
it is true. When DM speaks of "truism," in your case, how could
this not be true?
JD-Original
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:10:55 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:John
wrote: ... there is not a dual reality when it comes to
man.He is mind, body/soul, and spirit.
That is what he is. The three cannot be separated and survive.
jt: The above are only two JD - mind and spirit - and
this is
You offer 5 scriptures proving me wrong, no doubt. My problem is this: none of them say -- "you must be born again in order to be saved." Such implies that I must do something other than accept the gift already given!! "Acceptance" needs to be discussed, as well, but let's just deal with one
Yeah, I know it is.
Bill
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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:23 PM
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We had an enjoyable
family discussion around the dinner table tonight about
tumped you, huh? J
BT No. It was one
of those have-you-stopped-cheating-on-your-husband questions -- yes-or-no.
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And since it is the spiritual condition under
discussion, this would be "spiritually dead" right JD?
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:27:09 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That would be the word "dead" or the phrase " dead already"
--
kind of like your discussion with Bill at this point.
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RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
"from below" is the
alternative to "from above"--physical birth on earth. Your last sentence
hat if our doctrine were thiers of so many years ago, that we would talk or act like them on some level.
JD
-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:31:14 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
JD, I give you
:07
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Spiritual death
I asked for examples of those who heard these words of Christ and were sent
into all the world (the 12 apostles). They and the other
evangelists, never used these very words - you must be born again in
order
re because tht is the way itis.
JD
-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 02:57:51 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death
And since it is the spiritual condition under discu
Debbie wrote:
David, I appreciate the substance and tone of this post
you wrote to Judy (apart from whether or not I happen
to have the same opinion about spiritual inheritance).
Thank you for the kind words, Debbie, but now my curiosity is piqued. Do
you have a system of understanding
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:21:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since this "spiritual condition" you speak of includes the physical
body - the correct word would be "dead" or
"death.'
jt: Why not allow scripture to interpret scripture
JD? Death scripturally can be either the
John wrote:
... there is not a dual reality when it comes to man.
He is mind, body/soul, and spirit. That is what he is.
The three cannot be separated and survive.
Even if this were true, this does not mean that we cannot talk about what
each part contributes. When talking about the
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[TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Thamas had a conversation with
Christ. Prayer is something much different, sometimes
requiring the assistance of
constrain
all the rest so that I might have to recast them.
Debbie
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Debbie wrote:
David, I appreciate
Kevin wrote:
Nice THEORY Where are the facts?
You nor BT can prove this Theory anymore
than proving the Tooth Fairy!
I gave you some facts with Ezekiel 18 and Exodus 20:5. More facts are
available to those who have a heart that desires to learn.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
David Miller wrote:
Bill is not saying that you have read Augustine.
He is saying that you have been influenced by
Augustine and have adopted some of his viewpoints
without realizing it. How? Because you live in this world
and have grown up around ministers and school systems
that have
Judy wrote:
David sins follow family trees, the characteristics of
spirituality follow families.
This is true, but there are two types of sin sources that need to be
considered. There also are different mechanisms by which these are
transferred to future generations.
The flesh has a sin
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Thamas had a conversation with Christ. Prayer is something much different, sometimes requiring the assistance of the Spirit when our words are not sufficient. In fact, we are told to "pray without ceasing." If you thi
Facts to prove that JT was influenced by ...David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin wrote: Nice THEORY Where are the facts? You nor BT can prove this Theory anymore than proving the Tooth Fairy!I gave you some facts with Ezekiel 18 and Exodus 20:5. More facts are available to those who
Now that I would like to see - After all the
accusations I've still not seen any factual information
showing howwhat I am sayingis the same as
Augustine- in fact I found a whole list of
things that
are in conflict. He would have excommunicated me
with the Donatists and other hereticks for
Blaine wrote:
... pointing right into the center of the Milky
Way Galaxy. That seems a logical place for
God to live, but then that is IMHO.
Why not the center of the universe instead of the center of the galaxy? Why
not the center of our solar system (the sun)? Can you tell us a little
Kevin wrote:
Facts to prove that JT was influenced by
Why would any sane person not believe that JT has been influenced by
Augustine, Calvin, her flesh, Satan, etc.? Why make an argument out of a
truism?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace,
So David, now you and BT are in one accord so we may as
well discontinue
the dialogue. jt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:49:14 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kevin wrote: Facts to prove that JT was influenced by
Why would any sane person not believe that JT has been
: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
Death
So David, now you and BT are in one accord so we may
as well discontinue
the dialogue. jt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:49:14 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kevin wrote: Facts to prove that JT was influenced by
Why
Kevin Deegan wrote:
That seems a logical place for God to
live
So he lives next door to the god of the Jehovahs Witnesses?
God resides on the star Alcyone in the constellation
Pleiades. Reconciliation
page 14 Studies Vol. 3, pg. 327
Show me the FAXS
How is your perception a TRUISM?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin wrote: Facts to prove that JT was influenced by Why would any sane person not believe that JT has been influenced by Augustine, Calvin, her flesh, Satan, etc.? Why make an argument out of a
Good question - it appears as though to some people
I've been influenced by everything BUT the Spirit of
God.
I'd like to see the facts myself.
jt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Show me the FAXS
How is your perception a TRUISM?David
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So David, now you and BT are in one accord so we may as well discontinue
the dialogue. jt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:49:14 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin wrote: Facts to pro
Now I'm confused (even more than usual). What happened to Kolub? TerryKOLOB RECORDS
It is the Record Label of those Spiffy Clean veneer OSMONDS!
http://www.deuceofclubs.com/lps/kolob.htm
Well actually it is a really cool park
http://www.americansouthwest.net/utah/zion/kolob_canyons.html
OR it is
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:21:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since this "spiritual condition" you speak of includes the physical body - the correct word would be "dead" or "death.'
jt: Why not allow scripture to interpret scripture JD? Death scripturally can be either the absence of
true?
JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:23:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death
Good question - it appears as though to some people
I've been influenced by
30 Jul 2005 20:23:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death
Good question - it appears as though to some people
I've been influenced by everything BUT the Spirit of God.
I'd like to see the facts myself. jt
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.
: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death
John wrote:
... there is not a dual reality when it comes to man.
He is mind, body/soul, and spirit. That is what he is.
The three cannot be separated and survive.
Even if this were true, this does not mean that we cannot talk about what
each part contributes
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:03
PM
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death
BT:Izzy, maybe you can help me out
here
Were they referring to the first physical birth, JD? Or the second
one? iz
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Footnotes in the New
Iz: I'm
sure there's a lesson in there somewhere. :-) So are you agreeing with me
that our physical bodies really are dying,
Yes.
and
you are speaking only metaphorically about our bodies being risen with
Christ at the moment? Izzy
Well, if I
BT:Paul tells
us that Christ re-gatheredall things (Eph 1.10) and that in him all
things have their being or ontological There you go
using one of those nonbiblical words, Bill. I had said
something the other dayin reference to our ontological status in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Footnotes in the New King James and NASV show born "from above" to be a
viable translation and my Brown/Comfort Greek interlinear English translation
actually uses "born from above" rather than "born again."
JD
Here we have a perfect example of what modern day Jehudi's do to God's word. If it disagrees with their doctrine CHANGE the word. "A better translation would be 'ABOVE'" Once you change one word why not another and another. See how men help out God.
I wonder if Marcion got his start by modifying
Good Morning Izzy :)
I've been watching your interaction here with interest
along with the hope that you will suceed in communicationg where I have
failed but so far it does not look good.
bt writes: You'd better check your records, Izzy. This whole thing started
when I pointed out that
Thanks for this Kevin, it is really interesting and
proves the truth of there being"nothing new under the sun"
It's the same old battle isn't it? "Hath God
said?" "Hath God said?" And if folkdon't like what He said
there is
always some philosopher out there with some 50 million
dollar words
Izzy responds: So you really don'tobject, on the
grounds of being a nonbiblical term, if we use the term "spiritual death"
Bill?
I
think you are a bit confused, Izzy.It is not the term (since it
haslong ago been shown here that objection to a "nonbiblical term" is
inherently absurd) but
Izzy
responds: If you were born "from below" the first time, and "bornfrom
above" the second time, wasn't the second time born "again"?
Yes.However,"from above" adds specific content that is not
contained in "again", and it is that content which may be the focus of the
passage.
Debbie
Judy wrote:
Yes Bill you are the hypocrite on this
one and you need to repent.
I haven't been following the posts the last few days, but I read this one
this morning. Judy, please refrain from ad hominem arguments like this.
Such only reveals your frustration in being able to communicate and
Izzy, let's not be silly. You've got one body and
it's getting older.
Bill
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 3:00 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
Iz:
I'm sure there's
- Original Message -
From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 3:17 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
BT:Paul
tells us that Christ re-gatheredall things (Eph 1.10) and that in
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
Here we have a perfect example of what modern
day Jehudi's do to God's word. If it disagrees with their doctrine CHANGE the
word. "A better translation would be 'ABOVE'" Once you change one word why not
another and another. See ho
DAVEH: While that may apply to Izzy's husband's body, you must know
Izzy does not appear to be aging at all (If you don't believe me,
check out her picture on the members' photo pageshe looks the same
as she did 5 years ago!) :-)
Bill Taylor wrote:
Izzy, let's not be
@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
Izzy responds: So you really
don'tobject, on the grounds of being a nonbiblical term, if we use
the term spiritual death Bill?
I think you are a bit confused,
Izzy.It is not the term (since it haslong ago been shown here
No one has suggested that the Holy Spirit
came from anywhere else but above. izzy
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Linda:
My computer froze up when I tried to respond to the post you wrote indicating your confusion overthe issue of "spiritual death." The words, themselves, are not the issue. I attach concepts to words. It is the concept of "spiritual death" that is in question. "Trinty" is a non-biblical
: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
Izzy, let's not be silly. You've got one body and it's
getting older.
Bill
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29,
2005 3:00 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk
.
Bill
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From: ShieldsFamily
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2005 3:17 AM
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Spiritual death
BT:Paul
tells us that Christ re-gatheredall things (Eph 1.10) and that in him all
Just goes to show that Jesus inside
changes us on the outside. J (Plus I only post the good photos!)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
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Referring to "born again."-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:50:21 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Were they referring to the first physical birth, JD? Or the second one? iz
Fr
--
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
And while I am
metaphorically sitting with Christ in the heavenlies, my physical body is
notit is right here, going downhill, even as my spi
all along !! (John 3:21).
JD
-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:21:20 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Footnotes in the New King James and NASV show born "from above"
Thank you for admitting that. iz
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Referring to "born again."-Original
Messag
How's that?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
TaylorSent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:16 AMTo:
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death
Yeah, I suppose so -- AS LONG AS YOU REALIZE THAT
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A METAPHOR NOW!
Your
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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:09 AM
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death
My view is more
correctly this: spiritual death is simply the pre-quickened (ie:
born-again) spiritual state of any person. They are not yet awakened to
things of the Holy Spirit
that God has been our partner all
along !! (John 3:21).
JD
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29 Jul 2005 04:21:20 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Footnotes in
:-)
JD-Original Message-From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:37:57 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
DAVEH: While that may apply to Izzy's husband's body, you must know Izzy does not appear to be aging at all
Just when I think I've cornered you into acknowledging the obvious
you quit playing. Oh, well
iz
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TaylorSent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:22 AMTo:
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death
:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
How's that?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
TaylorSent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:16 AMTo: TruthTalk
Wereally have to drop this whole"nonbiblical term" red herring.
First step to becoming a Jehudi!Debbie Sawczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Izzy responds: So you really don'tobject, on the grounds of being a nonbiblical term, if we use the term "spiritual death" Bill?
I think you are a bit
it is that content which may be the focus of the passage
Why would anyone be persuaded by a uncertain sound?
KJV Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Debbie Sawczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Izzy responds: If you were born "from below" the first time, and "bornfrom above" the
at we are doing the truth BEFORE we come to the light and that this LIGHT reveals that all our works HAVE BEEN DONE in God.
JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:22:21 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiri
Nice THEORY
Where are the facts?
You nor BT can prove this Theory anymore than proving the Tooth Fairy!David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy wrote: Yes Bill you are the hypocrite on this one and you need to repent.I haven't been following the posts the last few days, but I read this one this
Good Morning David, you write:
Judy wrote:Yes Bill you are the hypocrite on thisone and you
need to repent.
DM: I haven't been following the posts the last few days, but I read this
one this morning. Judy, please refrain from ad hominem arguments like
this. Such only reveals your
od.
JD-Original
Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:22:21 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
"from below" is the alternative to "from above"--physical birth
on earth
intent.
bill
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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Here we have a perfect example of what modern day Jehudi's do to God's word. If it disagrees with their doctrine CHANGE the word
of a word to
more accurately reflect the original intent.
bill
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:45
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
uot;--physical birth on earth. Your last sentence is from outer space. iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:17 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
And where is this "born from b
, July 29, 2005 8:22 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
I am not interested in going down the same road again, so I will abstain from answering your question.
God's blessings,
Bill
By the way, I think I understand your position. Thank you for expressing
I guess Guy Fawkes did not like the KJV either.http://www.present-truth.org/KJV-HB/KJV-Bible.htm
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good Morning David, you write:
Judy wrote:Yes Bill you are the hypocrite on thisone and you need to repent.
DM: I haven't been following the posts the last few
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Thats always the line!
The watchtower did not change anywords either, they changed the translation,see the NWT!Bill Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No one has changed any words, Kevin. This is a false acc
DM writes:
My viewpoint tends to be one that recognizes spiritual inheritance only as
an authority issue, not as something passed on through the act of creating
progeny. Sin gives spirits in the air authority over us and over our
children.
Therefore, they have an effect upon future
g a
translation.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:04
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
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Thats always the line!
The watchtower did not change
Thanks Kevin!
Every day is a learning experience. I had no idea that
terrorism in the UK was just as rife in
that day - or that Guy Fawkes was a good RC. One
never knows what you will dig up, it's
exciting !!! jt
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2005 10:49:07 EDTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
In a message dated 7/26/2005 8:51:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do I miss the point? The body, soul
Blainer: What I hear you saying is that God created billions of
souls for the express purpose of sending them to hell because they did not get a
chance to hear the truth and accept Jesus Christ, confess him with their mouths,
then continue about their daily sinning, but with a renewed
In a message dated 7/28/2005 8:26:40 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Satan comes as an
angel of light deceiving with miracles also.
Blainerb: I keep hearing this--but other than some obscure biblical
passage suggesting it might be true, what other evidence is
n.
Debbie
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
Death
Judy wrote: Yes Bill you are the hypocrite on
this one and you need to repent. I haven't been
] writes:
Everytime you read your KJV, you are reading "changed" words, Kevin:
this because you are reading a translation.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritua
A Jesuit attempt on King James' life was discovered when 36 barrels of gunpowder were found in the cellar of Westminster palace where King James was to speak in a few hours. Guy Fawkes and 3 other Roman Soldiers of fortune had taken an oath to assassinate the King. Their pledge was sealed with a
ily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
death
Just when I think I've cornered you into acknowledging the
obvious you quit playing. Oh, well
iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE
14 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Youmay have something here -- I don't know .But thanks for your input.
Jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:49:07 EDTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
In a messa
God created billions of souls for the express purpose of sending them to hell
WRONG
Framing the discussion with your evil thoughts, does not make them God's thoughts:
2 PT 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing
some obscure biblical passage
See "Mormon Doctrine" it says under the heading - Angel of Light - "The Devil"
So why does your Intro in the DC identify Moroni as an "angel of Light" or as Bruce says THE DEVIL? No response from you guys on this one?
What do you mean OBSCURE? and maybe you should
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