Re: [Vim-l] Tips relying on external sites

2008-06-03 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: > So. What must we do about external links ? Must we rule about > it and forbid them? I'm not very inclined to it. No! External links are fine. Your web site is one that I had in mind when I worded what it says on http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Create_a_new_tip "any lin

[Vim-l] New tips for May

2008-06-04 Thread John Beckett
Routine maintenance is important, so please help by adding a comment on what we should do with the proposed new tips at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:New_tips/200805 John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/l

Re: [Vim-l] Tips relying on external sites

2008-06-04 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: > Well, I wasn't much concerned about my site. Yesterday night, > I was in search of examples. A better one is Dr Chip's site. > It has been around for ages, which does not mean it will be > here forever. See Sven Guckes' example: he had a wonderful > site for vim users, but he

[Vim-l] Ads in articles

2008-06-07 Thread John Beckett
Last Friday, the wikia-l mailing list announced these changes: - Articles will have ads in the content area. - No ads on talk pages or user pages. - Logged-in users will see one 300x250px ad at the top right. - Where ad would disrupt a table, it will render as a banner. - Main page will change to a

Re: [Vim-l] Ads in articles

2008-06-08 Thread John Beckett
Martin Tournoij wrote: > Can't the Vim wiki be hosted at the Vim site (www.vim.org)? I don't understand how vim.org works, but it appears that www.vim.org is an alias for vhost.sourceforge.net, so only things that work on sourceforge as possible. I'm pretty sure that vim.org is not available bec

[Vim-l] Replacing short tips that rely on external links

2008-06-09 Thread John Beckett
Please help review what I've done at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_information This page contains links to tips that I think should be deleted (I haven't yet flagged those tips with {{delete}}). Underneath each link is a brief statement of the tip content (just a couple of external links). I ne

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2008-06-21 Thread John Beckett
Next Sunday (in one week) I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. I've done quite a bit of pruning so it's a long list, but I think you'll find that the proposed delet

[Vim-l] New sysop

2008-07-08 Thread John Beckett
We have had quite a bit of spam lately. Wikia have been extremely helpful and have provided a couple of tools and a guard dog (aka Uberfuzzy). Thanks Angela and Uberfuzzy! However, I think we should have more than one active sysop. I have asked Fritzophrenic if he would accept a nomination to bec

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2008-08-02 Thread John Beckett
Next Sunday (in one week) I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. The proposed deletions are fairly uncontroversial (mostly the info has been merged elsewhere). I'm pl

[Vim-l] Help links now show Vim 7.2 docs

2008-08-27 Thread John Beckett
Vim 7.2.006 documentation has been placed on vimdoc by Dan Sharp, and he has copied my current CGI help script from vimplugin to vimdoc, and I have edited Template:Help to use vimdoc rather than vimplugin. Dan told me that he hopes to keep the documentation reasonably up to date in the future. T

[Vim-l] Wiki software upgrade

2008-09-09 Thread John Beckett
Wikia are upgrading the software driving each wiki to MediaWiki 1.13.1. The main enhancement concerns moving a page (changing the title): Double redirects are automatically detected and fixed. For example, if "A" redirects to "B", then you move "B" to "C", the redirect on "A" will automatically

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2008-09-19 Thread John Beckett
Next Sunday (in one week) I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. Fritzophrenic has commented on my proposal to delete a redirect page (he's making the valid point tha

[Vim-l] Tip headings

2008-09-20 Thread John Beckett
I have tried an experiment by changing Template:TipImported and Template:TipNew (and a bit more -- see Recent changes) to reduce the size/prominence of the heading material that appears on tips (tip number/previous/next/author etc). For example, see the results at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/The_s

Re: [Vim-l] What are Tips?

2008-09-22 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: > At http://www.vim.org/tips/index.php there is a nice > description of what tips are and why we have a tip > collection, in the left column of the page. > > I think we need this same information on the wiki, but I > don't know a good place for it. > > I really think it s

[Vim-l] HTML character entities

2008-10-07 Thread John Beckett
Please bear in mind a new guideline when editing: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Special_text Summary: * Do not use < or > or & (for < > &). * Except: - use for - use for (and similar for , etc) I have used a bot to remove HTML character entities from all tips, exc

[Vim-l] Vim Tips Wiki - Remove author?

2009-02-21 Thread John Beckett
Each tip on the wiki has a header. We've pruned some of the information that was originally imported from vim.org, and now we're wondering whether to also remove the author field. The wiki way of dealing with authorship is to use "History", which records the edit summary, user name, and changes pe

Re: [Vim-l] smart parsing preprocessor #if for comment highlighting

2009-03-18 Thread John Beckett
David T. Kerns wrote: > I really like the way vim highlights the code > > #if 0 > this is colored as a comment > #else > this is not > #endif > > however, the converse is not true > > #if 1 > this has no special highlighting > #else > this also has no special highlighting > #endif I suspect "#if 0

[Vim-l] Auto welcome

2009-03-18 Thread John Beckett
Any thoughts on the new auto-welcome system Wikia has introduced? We can configure the text it uses, and we can disable it (I'm a bit suspicious of anything cutsey, and my inclination is to disable it, but maybe I'm too curmudgeonly). One minute after a new user (registered or just an IP address)

Re: [Vim-l] Auto welcome

2009-03-19 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: > Secondly, I like the idea in general. We pretty much do it > anyway, with our templated welcome text. Hmmm. I'll look at putting the text of {{subst:welc}} on the new auto welcome. We may as well run with it for a while, but it will cause trouble. I'm sure you've noticed a

Re: [Vim-l] Auto welcome

2009-03-23 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: > I agree, and yes, I noticed. I've tried to update the > auto-greeting with our existing welcome text and a note that > we'll probably be dropping a message soon with any concerns > or suggestions. That was a nice comment you added to the tip. Now we've got a case where a us

Re: [Vim-l] Auto welcome

2009-03-23 Thread John Beckett
Angela wrote: > The welcome tool has some new options which you can read about on > http://vim.wikia.com/index.php?oldid=22402 > > The colon in [[:$1]] is used so that when someone's edit is > to an image or category page, it will show a link to that > page instead of actually displaying the image

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2009-04-03 Thread John Beckett
Please consider the pages recommended for deletion: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion On Wednesday 8 April I intend deleting the following obsolete pages (I anticipate this won't be controversial): All 11 "Forum:xxx" pages, and all 2 "Talk:xxx" pages, as currently list

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2009-07-12 Thread John Beckett
Next weekend I intend deleting all the stuff at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of the above. Progress on the wiki is slow but steady. One positive sign is that it is now relatively easy to find reasonable tip

Re: [Vim-l] Rich text editor

2009-07-16 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: > "To disable the new editor for a single article you can use > the special word __NOWYSIWYG__ (Note: The new editor system > will still be loaded, but will be locked to 'source' mode.)" > > I imagine we could put this keyword in our TipNew, > TipImported, and TipProposed temp

[Vim-l] News: RTE, SEO, Syntax highlighting

2009-09-03 Thread John Beckett
Some Vim Tips wiki news and requests for opinions: RTE: Wikia introduced a "Rich Text Editor" for new users who want to type pure text with bold and italics. The RTE is very unhelpful when editing a Vim Tip and I want to ask Wikia to remove the editor. I need people to quickly say "*Remove "

Re: [Vim-l] Need good tab-page tips on Vim Tips wiki

2009-11-26 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: > Here are a couple of simple ideas. Some of these are probably > not worth a tip on their own, but perhaps may make a nice "quick tips" > list: > * Opening a diff window for a buffer that you are also > editing in another tab, without messing up window layout or > options set

Re: [Vim-l] Need good tab-page tips on Vim Tips wiki

2009-11-28 Thread John Beckett
Benjamin Fritz wrote: >> * Redirected Ex command output: I often want to use the >> output from an Ex command ... > > I thought we already had a tip on this, but I couldn't find > it. John, do you remember the tip? That's tip 95: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Capture_ex_command_output I have added a

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2010-03-02 Thread John Beckett
Please consider the pages recommended for deletion: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Next Tuesday I intend deleting the pages listed. There are a couple of particularly unhelpful old tips in the list, but I now have a new way of dealing with unwanted existing tips: I jus

Re: [Vim-l] auto complete help

2011-04-17 Thread John Beckett
Brett wrote: > Hi guys, I'm wondering how I can get VIM autocomplete to list > all the mysqli functions in PHP. > It has some but not all, for (e.g.) mysqli_connect_error is > there but mysqli_connect is not is there a way to fix this?? This mailing list is pretty dormant, and its purpose is to di

[Vim-l] Template:Help - New 'help' script

2007-07-02 Thread John Beckett
nd verified correct results. The wiki Template:Help should work unchanged. However, I will change it as follows: - Use 'sourceforge' instead of 'sf' in URL. - Use urlencode for tag. John #!/usr/bin/python ''' Handle CGI query to redirect client browser to wanted Vi

[Vim-l] Deleting junk (not tips)

2007-07-11 Thread John Beckett
If a sysop reads this, please visit the following and use your magic delete powers. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion It might be a bit messy to delete the junk tip because you would have to worry about its redirect page. However, the "Very interesting information" is ju

Re: [Vim-l] Deleting junk (not tips)

2007-07-11 Thread John Beckett
Angela wrote: > It actually is spam. Thanks for the deletion. I'm glad to know that my suspicions were justified, at least in this case. I have learnt to visit www.snopes.com when a friend sends an email with urgent medical advice. I see that I can also use Google to verify that a wiki/blog posti

Re: [Vim-l] Deleting junk (not tips)

2007-07-12 Thread John Beckett
Angela wrote: > I've deleted those 2 pages and the redirect. For posterity, here is what I have just done: - Created Template:Removed - Created Category:Removed - Recreated the deleted redirect page with contents: {{Removed|403|The tip was a request for assistance.}} This gives quite a nice r

[Vim-l] TipsNews for new mailing list discussion

2007-07-13 Thread John Beckett
Bram is trying to set up new mailing lists on Google groups. The success of this wiki is IMHO dependent upon getting the mailing lists working again, so I've been a bit cheeky and made a new template, then put it in Template:Tip and on the Main Page. The new template displays a brief but prominen

Re: [Vim-l] login policy

2007-07-17 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: > {{review}} is best on the main page. Yes! Please keep {{review}} on the main page. If we don't aim to fix the tips, let's abandon the wiki now. We're not going to do a newcomer a favour by making a tip look nice (by hiding {{review}}), if the tip is in fact 50% junk. MANY of th

Re: [Vim-l] login policy

2007-07-17 Thread John Beckett
> hermitte wrote: I was not referring to the TALK page, but to the EDIT page. Sorry - I missed your meaning. I was getting a bit excited because I think an earlier suggestion in the thread was to use the talk page. That's on my mind at the moment because the current {{review}} template does say t

[Vim-l] Template:Help fixed

2007-07-18 Thread John Beckett
I have finished some important changes to the Help template, and I have installed my new help script on the vimplugin Sourceforge server (thanks to Bastl making me a developer). We can now use {{help|topic}} for all help topics except those that contain problem characters: = < > [ ] | See the

[Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-07-21 Thread John Beckett
When the now-working Vim mailing lists have settled down afer running for another week or so, I plan to post some messages trying to get help from the community to work on the Vim Tips wiki. To prepare for this, I have been working on a set of guidelines for how to edit tips. I think this is impor

Re: [Vim-l] {{TipNews}} vs. MediaWiki:Sitenotice

2007-07-21 Thread John Beckett
Christian J. Robinson wrote: > I'm thinking the {{TipNews}} template should be abandoned in > favor of the MediaWiki:Sitenotice feature: > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice That sounds good (particularly the per-user dismiss). I invented TipNews to spread the word quickly. I realise

[Vim-l] More spam posted

2007-07-23 Thread John Beckett
It looks like we've had our second spam and some wikia mechanism (or more likely, an admin like Angela) has noticed it, and deleted the page (if interested, search Recent changes for 'Looking to buy'). The person posting the spam probably did a bit of testing - they made three junk tips which were

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-07-23 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > it's a bit dangerous to over formalize the contributions OK - I hope I haven't done that. While encouraging people to 'be bold' and so on, I think that some contributors might like a bit of guidance (which they can ignore). Do we (the regulars here) want to keep all the c

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-07-24 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > I like the texts ... Title_guidelines is long Thanks, and yes, Title_guidelines is a bit long. I'm not sure how to abbreviate it without leaving out something useful. > I wrote a page "Guidelines" as a starting point Yes, and I started planning to use that as the startin

Re: [Vim-l] performance problems?

2007-07-24 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Does anyone else experience major performance problems > with the wiki? It takes minutes before I see something. I have noticed slowness and occassional problems (possibly very slow connection, but I was too impatient to wait and closed the browser, then tried again). I wo

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-07-24 Thread John Beckett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There are times where the talk page is more > suited than any other media. Yes I agree. The question concerns how often the talk page is more suited than just adjusting the comments, in the case of most old tips. I looked through 'candidates for deletion' recently and s

Re: [Vim-l] bots

2007-07-24 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > You could escape special characters in the tips. > For example, replace [[ with [[ > and | (inside the Tip template) with {{|}}. Why don't we just abandon the {{{text}}} parameter of Template:Tip? Is there any point to having the body of the tip as a parameter? Having s

[Vim-l] Fix Category reference in Statistics

2007-07-25 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian - You let someone on vim_use know that PHP tips are at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:PHP I looked at that page to see what was there, and noticed a slight bug. You have recently made a bot which gathers statistics, for example: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Statistics/P

[Vim-l] Deleting tips - please set redirect page to {{Removed|id}}

2007-07-25 Thread John Beckett
When an imported tip is deleted, someone needs to fix the redirect page. The three tips for which I have done this are at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Removed The current tips for deletion are at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion Example: One of the to-be-deleted

Re: [Vim-l] bots

2007-07-26 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: >> BTW I think it's {{!}} for bar, not {{|}}. > > {{!}} does not seem to work either though (but the html escape code does). Thanks for the reminder. I got the "use {{!}} for bar" rule from the wiki documentation and tried it, and noticed the problem you mention, and forgot

[Vim-l] Category for redirect page of a deleted tip

2007-07-26 Thread John Beckett
I notice that the redirect page http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip447 for tip 447 (which has been deleted) contains: {{Removed|447}}[[Category:VimTipRedirects]] I think the category should be deleted from the above. The Removed template adds the page to the Removed category, and I don't see any r

[Vim-l] Candidates for deletion

2007-07-26 Thread John Beckett
Please see the discussion on some possibly to-be-deleted tips at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Candidates_for_deletion John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/vim-l

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-07-30 Thread John Beckett
> Why not just have one category named C? I'm cleaning up the categories, mainly by using CatInfo for standardisation, and to apply Bastl's nice statistics button. Then I came to the C category and I succumbed to temptation to see how the text would look if written "my way". Please have a look at

[Vim-l] Make 'Show preview' the default when editing

2007-07-30 Thread John Beckett
Angela kindly reworded the text that appears when an anonymous user edits a page, to encourage them to log on. That makes me wonder if it is possible to also change the fact that 'Save page' is the default button when editing. If I accidentally press Enter while the focus is not in the edit window

[Vim-l] Merging tips - new Template:Duplicate and docs

2007-07-30 Thread John Beckett
I have reworked the Vim Tip Guidelines at http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:General_guidelines Following suggestions from Ipkiss, there are sections on merging similar tips, and an overview of useful templates. The merging documentation covers the new Template:Duplicate which can be used to

[Vim-l] Categories slightly reworded

2007-07-30 Thread John Beckett
Please review http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Browse I've made category 'Administration of this site' the parent of Dodgy and Removed. I've used CatInfo in all the subcategories of VimTip, and done some rewording of the category descriptions. I've experimented with the wording of Category:C,

[Vim-l] Delete Category:Tip?

2007-07-30 Thread John Beckett
I've finished cleaning up categories (use CatInfo and make sure every category is under Category:Browse). That includes putting Category:TeX under Category:LanguageSpecific. There is one category which seems to be unused. It's possibly a left-over from Bastl's experiments while setting up the wiki

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-07-30 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > C, C++, C# Categories and titles > How should we deal with that? I don't understand the desire to specifically subcategorise everything. Why not just have one category named C? Later, when there is a demonstrable need to have subcategories of Category:C, we could worry ab

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-07-31 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > As Luc said, C tips will often be useful for C++, > but the reverse may not be true (example: > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Highlighting_of_method_names_in_the_definition) I didn't notice anyone address my big problem: By having C and C++ as separate categories, you forc

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-07-31 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > I've tried to tidy up things a bit... I like what you've done, although I couldn't resist tweaking the wording a little. > "Readers, Contributors, Editors". Is that ok? Yes - good stuff. I hope to tweak it slightly in due course, in line with my other message that we sho

Re: [Vim-l] close the forum?

2007-07-31 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Or even delete the forum to avoid any complications? OK but don't forget there is a reference to the forum at http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Discussion_guidelines http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Policy I (or anyone) might think about strengthening and e

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > We need more info on who uses what version. Just > because _we_ use the latest stuff, it doesnt mean, > that it is included in a stable debian server > that is running for some years ... I'm happy to leave this battle until later:) Let's work out if we've got a problem bef

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: >> The correct way to handle this is to have categories: >> VimTip >> LanguageSpecific >> Cfamily >> C >> C++ >> C# > > Does this solve the problem? > In which category would a tip for C/C++ be? I was about to explain how it does solve th

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > I was using the {{Deprecated|reason}} template > (resulting in the Deprecated category) for this. Our procedures are still settling down. Here's the latest... Template:Deprecated should be used only for obsolete tips (not merged tips). Use Template:Deprecated if you thi

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > OK, but if you don't trust categories, you will > anyway open all the C/C++ related tips. I'm thinking that the wiki will show one list of Category:C tips, that I'd have to look through. Then (later), I'd have to show the Category:C++ list, and look through that. I would

Re: [Vim-l] Category:VimL and/or Category:Scripting ?

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: > Want do you think about a Category:VimL > (child of LanguageSpecific) dedicated to how > to help us scripting in VimL? While an attractive idea, wouldn't we then have the issue we've been discussing on C and C++? That is, take a tip on Vim scripting: would you put it in Category

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > C++ tips do not necessarily apply to C as well OK. So let's agree on how this will look. At the bottom of any tip useful for C or C++ we would put: [[Category:C]] [[Category:C_plus_plus]] That's two lines (I suppose). Let's do it in the above order rather than decide f

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Can probably be done with DPL: > http://semeb.com/dpldemo/DPL:Manual Magnificent! I had a very quick play and got some perplexing results with different code - I'll try again later. However, DPL seems to generate a category union very well. Suggestion: Put a brief explan

Re: [Vim-l] New guidelines (policies) for editing tips

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Would a categorization by "state" be useful? > These things sound like states to me: > Review, Delete, Dodgy, Obsolete, Deprecated, 6.0, 7.0, Merged. Small world - I was thinking that recently while working on something. I decided not to pursue it because I thought it was

Re: [Vim-l] Broken redirect pages

2007-08-01 Thread John Beckett
Angela wrote: > Percent symbols can not be used in article titles. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28technical_restr ictions%29#Percent Sebastian: I just add colon and percent as "avoid" - I guess that's ok. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Title_guidelines no

Re: [Vim-l] Category:VimL and/or Category:Scripting ?

2007-08-02 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: >Am Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:22:39 +1000 schrieb John Beckett: >> hermitte wrote: >>> Want do you think about a Category:VimL (child of LanguageSpecific) >>> dedicated to how to help us scripting in VimL? >> >> While an attractive idea, w

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-08-02 Thread John Beckett
Please review the following new page which uses Seb's DPL http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/All_tips_for_C_family_programming and see the new wording on the category pages listed on the above. John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com http://lists.wikia.com

Re: [Vim-l] C, C++, C# Categories and titles

2007-08-02 Thread John Beckett
> Please review the following new page which uses Seb's DPL > > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/All_tips_for_C_family_programming > > and see the new wording on the category pages listed on the above. Hmmm. I wonder what category I should have put the above page in. John

[Vim-l] Use ... for code

2007-08-04 Thread John Beckett
I noticed that Hansfn has done a great job by combining a bunch of comments into one finished tip at: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Wrap_text_in_HTML/XML_tags_after_prompting_for_the _tag_name I thought I would fix an indent for an 'if'. Then I started to wonder if a long block of code, as in this ti

[Vim-l] New code guidelines (use ...)

2007-08-04 Thread John Beckett
Please review the following changes (I'm a bit nervous about the Golden Rules because of the fact that it is automatically displayed when a new tip is created). http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Golden_Rules http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki:Code_guidelines I did some quick tests on c

[Vim-l] Delete spam - sysop needed

2007-08-07 Thread John Beckett
First really blatant spam - please delete ASAP. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vitamin_b12_injection_for_weight_loss All the articles listed at the following could be deleted: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion However, these three articles are the only spam that should be del

[Vim-l] Delete more spam

2007-08-08 Thread John Beckett
I don't know what the following is, but it sure smells like ugly spam links. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Feilsky Google search for 'jiadev' (spam link site) suggests that a massive amount of spam effort has been used. Should we notify the wikia admins? How? John ___

Re: [Vim-l] coordinate our work?

2007-08-09 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > First categorize everything. A simple pessimistic calculation: > 5 tips per person per day = 20 tips per day (at 4 persons) > ~1300 / 20 = 65 days. It's calculations like this that have made me try prodding the vim_use mailing list: Subject: Mailing list problems need to

Re: [Vim-l] coordinate our work?

2007-08-09 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > I thought about structuring the workload a bit: > First categorize everything. Good idea. I see that you have put catlist1 and catlist2 under Todo. Nice! I looked there because I was going to suggest maybe putting a subpage with a quick plan. This list is probably adequate

[Vim-l] Categories

2007-08-09 Thread John Beckett
I need some help planning categories ... what about this tip: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip1369 Save file that had missing-trailing-end-of-line automatically without trailing-end-of-line Ben on the vim_use mailing list mentioned that he fixed this tip. What category should it be in?

Re: [Vim-l] Categories

2007-08-10 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > What do you mean by wrapping? Wrapping text at the right-margin. Stuff like 'wrap', 'textwidth', 'linebreak'. I mentioned it because it's vaguely related to the EOL issue of fileformat. In vim_use, Ben has made a good argument that Category:Fileformat might be too specifi

[Vim-l] Policy on new tips that are links

2007-08-11 Thread John Beckett
Please review this new tip: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Changing_all_HTML_tags_to_lowercase I'm sure this is helpful, but it raises some issues because it's essentially just a link to a personal web site. Any comments? John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@

Re: [Vim-l] Policy on new tips that are links

2007-08-11 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > I've noticed it. I would not rely on any non permanent blog. > Links to vim.org (scripts e.g.) are ok, but not to > untrustworthy sources. > > How could we get such things into the wiki? How about copying > and referencing to the blog to give some credit? It's a bit de

[Vim-l] Main page is definitely broken

2007-08-11 Thread John Beckett
Seb mentioned performance problems loading the main page a while ago. It seemed to get better, but lately it's been pretty bad again. I booted my computer, and went to the main page. Waiting, waiting... Opened new browser instance and went to recent changes page - opened quickly. The main page was

Re: [Vim-l] Policy on new tips that are links

2007-08-14 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: >> I'm sure this is helpful, but it raises some issues because >> it's essentially just a link to a personal web site. > > (I may be not the best person to have an opinion on this > issue as my only vimtip is nothing but a link to a bash > script I'm maintaining on my personal web

Re: [Vim-l] coordinate our work?

2007-08-14 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > I thought about howto involve more people from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > for categorization. (That's so easy, everyone can help). Good luck - no doubt you noticed me trying to get some interest there. Tough work! People are quite happy to put a bunch of effort into an answer t

Re: [Vim-l] coordinate our work?

2007-08-14 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: >> By all means allocate each of the Gang of Four to some different >> letters under catlist2 (is that a good procedure?). > > It is one. A "stochastic" one would be fine as well as we > need to move all non categorized tips to a category. Glad you're back Luc... I'm slowly wor

Re: [Vim-l] Policy on new tips that are links

2007-08-14 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > I wrote him a mail, and he posted it directly into the wiki. Great - thanks. Do you think it worthwhile to adjust our policy as I outlined earlier? If so, I'll do it if you like, but would it be worthwhile? The Golden Rules currently start: Please follow these guidelin

Re: [Vim-l] Meta tips

2007-08-15 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > I have written a page listing meta tips (how to use vim to > edit tips about vim): > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ipkiss/Using_vim_to_edit_tips Sensational! Thanks. GetOriginalIndent() is pretty magic... Have you seen Heptite's monobook.js info at: http://vim.wikia.

Re: [Vim-l] Meta tips

2007-08-16 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > Yes... but unfortunately there is a fair amount of tips where > the original indentation itself is quite bad :) I don't use Vim's code formatting much (well never, actually), so I'm totally ignorant of its capabilities. Can Vim format/indent Vim script? >> Have you seen

Re: [Vim-l] Meta tips

2007-08-17 Thread John Beckett
Olivier Teuliere wrote: > I prefer not having syntax highlighting in the code rather > than ugly HTML directly in the source of the page, making > it hard to update. Agree. Particularly while we are still just starting to get the tips fixed. > The code would then be converted on server side (cal

[Vim-l] Category sorting

2007-08-18 Thread John Beckett
I want to check my understanding of categories (the actual issue is trivial and is not the point of the following question). http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip241 Tip title = "Hide" Folding Markers The above tip has three categories: [[Category:Syntax|Hide Folding Markers]] [[Category:Folding|Hid

[Vim-l] Non-ascii characters

2007-08-18 Thread John Beckett
There is exactly one tip that uses non-ascii characters in the title. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip483 The tip title is (using ascii apostrophes): Using GREP for a 'list occurrences' and quickfix help command. Presumably everyone agrees that we may as well impose a "use ASCII text only" rule

Re: [Vim-l] Duplicates or not (gf(1075) and :find(1146))

2007-08-23 Thread John Beckett
hermitte wrote: > I'd like your opinion on two tips. > - Tip 1075: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip1075 > - Tip 1146: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Project_browsing_using_find. > I know there is another script... If it's a tip, perhaps: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/VimTip1432 > So. Merging? Not merging

Re: [Vim-l] Duplicates or not (gf(1075) and :find(1146))

2007-08-24 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Do we need the technical overhead? Wouldn't plain old > [[links]] suffice? > They are meant to relate things ... So one could write under heading > > ==references== > VimTipXYZ is related to this one, but focusses more on topic ABC Fine, but you would have to do a fair

Re: [Vim-l] Remap :q ?

2007-09-03 Thread John Beckett
Jeff Smith wrote: > What I'd like to know is whether there's a way to > remap :q to something harmless. You could put something like the following in your vimrc file: :nmap :q :echo "Press ZQ to quit!" Please note: 1. Particularly for a mailing list, please make sure you send plain text only.

[Vim-l] Request bot flag for JohnBot

2007-09-03 Thread John Beckett
Tom - please assign the bot flag to account JohnBot. See: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/User:JohnBot Let me know if you want any more details. My scripts are getting into quite good shape. I can download tips, and upload changes. First, I want to get the VimTip redirect pages into our standard form

[Vim-l] Sysop - please review Candidates for deletion

2007-09-03 Thread John Beckett
Nine pages are waiting for deletion: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion I just looked at each of them, and they seem very clear - delete now. If you do that, I will fix the VimTip redirect pages. John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vi

Re: [Vim-l] Request bot flag for JohnBot

2007-09-04 Thread John Beckett
Angela wrote: > Only staff can assign bot flags. I've just done this > for JohnBot. Thanks Angela - I'll try to use my new powers only for good... John ___ Vim-l mailing list Vim-l@wikia.com http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/vim-l

Re: [Vim-l] Sysop - please review Candidates for deletion

2007-09-04 Thread John Beckett
Sebastian Menge wrote: >> Nine pages are waiting for deletion: >> >> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion >> I just looked at each of them, and they seem very clear - > delete now. >> If you do that, I will fix the VimTip redirect pages. > > Done. Sebastian. Good - I've ju

[Vim-l] Should we import tip 169?

2007-09-05 Thread John Beckett
The following tips have illegal characters in their titles, so they were not imported. 156 169 190 260 289 342 360 429 438 469 506 524 529 556 592 597 604 722 752 756 770 890 930 994 1006 1079 1363 1391 I have copied the text of each tip from vim.org, and will manually create the tips on the wi

[Vim-l] How to report spam

2007-09-05 Thread John Beckett
I've just reported another spam. Here is the procedure. Open: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Spam_Blacklist Click box at top "Report a spammer here". In the Subject/headline box, enter a name for the spam. You might put the title or topic of the page. In my case, the page had spam links, so I en

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