Re: [Zope3-dev] Getting 403 error from download.zope.org

2007-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Am Montag, den 23.04.2007, 12:07 +0530 schrieb Baiju M: Baiju M wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Am Sonntag, den 22.04.2007, 15:11 -0400 schrieb Benji York: David Pratt wrote: Any idea what is happening with the site? Getting distribution for zope.app.zptpage Error: Can't

Re: [Zope3-dev] 98111 strikes back

2007-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Am Montag, den 23.04.2007, 00:03 -0700 schrieb Leonardo Rochael: I've reopened 98111 because it doesn't deal with the situation where the collection is empty, i.e. when the user didn't select any of the options in the collection widgets. Can I check the newly attached patch to the bug into

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.4, eggs and windows

2007-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Am Montag, den 23.04.2007, 20:03 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Christian Theune wrote: The eggs are released now. Cool, thanks! I'll try this out. Note that I see -3.4.tar.gz released 11 april, as well as 3.4.0a1 tarballs released yesterday. What are those 3.4 release eggs doing

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4, eggs and windows

2007-04-22 Thread Christian Theune
Am Samstag, den 21.04.2007, 22:20 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Hi there, I have some questions about the Zope 3.4 release. My apologies if this information is already available somewhere else. I've just uploaded z3c.widget to download.zope.org/distribution, but ran into a new snag: it

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4, eggs and windows

2007-04-22 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I took Martin's script and adapted it for this release. I took the listing of download.zope.org and gathered the names of all eggs that were available as 3.4dev eggs and am currently creating 3.4.0a1 eggs for those. It might be that these are not all eggs that should be build. However,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4, eggs and windows

2007-04-22 Thread Christian Theune
, but I'll do that later today. Christian Am Sonntag, den 22.04.2007, 12:38 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: Hi, I took Martin's script and adapted it for this release. I took the listing of download.zope.org and gathered the names of all eggs that were available as 3.4dev eggs and am currently

Re: [Zope3-dev] Getting 403 error from download.zope.org

2007-04-22 Thread Christian Theune
Am Sonntag, den 22.04.2007, 15:11 -0400 schrieb Benji York: David Pratt wrote: Any idea what is happening with the site? Getting distribution for zope.app.zptpage Error: Can't download http://download.zope.org/distribution/zope.app.zptpage-3.4.0a1.tar.gz: 403 Forbidden That

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.4.0a1 released

2007-04-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Freitag, den 20.04.2007, 16:25 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Hey, Compatibility with Zope 2 -- We continue to work on the transition from Zope 2 to Zope 3 by making Zope 2 use more and more of the Zope 3 packages. But we're not there yet. **You

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.3 2.4 Linux remy

2007-04-21 Thread Christian Theune
That was a spurious ZEO error. Am Samstag, den 21.04.2007, 06:08 -0400 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.3 2.4 Linux remy. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 187 Blamelist:

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2007-04-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hmm. Up until now those failures where spurious on my machine. I'm somewhat happy those turned up. Jim mentioned to me those would be problems with exit handlers in the test runner, however one testrunner that was breaking on my machine didn't get fixed by switching to `os._exit()` :/ Am

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Bug 98024] Re: Add big files

2007-04-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, (moving it to zope3-dev for discussion) Am Samstag, den 21.04.2007, 13:50 + schrieb Jim Fulton: On Apr 21, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Christian Theune wrote: *sigh* This is a can of worms. It looks like email.FeedParser.FeedParser is probably what we want to use. Why? Ah. I

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: z3c.widget(.tiny) widget available to easy_install anywhere?

2007-04-21 Thread Christian Theune
Am Samstag, den 21.04.2007, 19:12 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Hey, Anyone, can I conclude that z3c.widget is not available anywhere? Who would like to upload a version? Can I help? Where shall we upload it? You should be able to make an sdist and scp it to

Shall I upload the release? Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2007-04-19 Thread Christian Theune
Am Donnerstag, den 19.04.2007, 05:59 -0400 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 124 Blamelist: ctheune,schwendinger,zagy :( I see those

[Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4.0a1 released

2007-04-19 Thread Christian Theune
contributed to this release: Jim Fulton, Dmitry Vasiliev, Martijn Faassen, Christian Theune, Wolfgang Schnerring, Fred Drake, Marius Gedminas, Baiju M, Brian Sutherland, Gary Poster signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil

Re: [Zope3-dev] Is Zope3.4 eggs going to be backwards compatible with Zope3.3 zpkg?

2007-04-18 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 18.04.2007, 17:31 +0300 schrieb Ignas Mikalajunas: Hi, I have accidentally tried upgrading from Zope3.3 branch checkout to Zop3.4 eggs, and it seems that at least: include package=zope.app / instead of throwing a deprecation warning (the way switching to Zope3.4

Spurious errors Was: [Zope3-dev] working towards 3.4 alpha release

2007-04-16 Thread Christian Theune
Ok, those two tests only break on my notebook, but not on a pretty similar second machine. I tried rebuilding with a clean Python (2.4.4) but it keeps breaking. Any hints or ideas? Christian Am Samstag, den 14.04.2007, 10:19 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: More test breakage: Running

[Zope3-dev] Missing twisted in release

2007-04-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I tried to make a (test) release today and fixed some broken zpkg things. I'm currently stalled at a point where I can create a release, but twisted seems missing. I don't have much zpkg-knowledge and I can't find out why it's missing. Can anybody jump in? Christian -- gocept gmbh co.

Re: [Zope3-dev] revisiting IResult (for in-Zope pipelining)

2007-04-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Montag, den 16.04.2007, 09:58 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Gary Poster wrote: The work that Jim Washington and David Pratt have started recently to make lxml an XHTML generator/ZPT replacement [#1]_ has really excited me. It would be *great* with

[Zope3-dev] working towards 3.4 alpha release

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'm working on the 3.4 alpha release today. When running _all_ tests, I found this unit test to fail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/Development/Zope-3.4a1 $ python test.py --all Running unit tests: Failure in test testStandalone (zope.component.tests.StandaloneTests) Traceback (most recent call

Re: [Zope3-dev] working towards 3.4 alpha release

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Theune
More test breakage: Running zope.app.workflow.testing.AppWorkflowLayer tests: Running in a subprocess. Set up zope.app.workflow.testing.AppWorkflowLayer in 1.290 seconds. Ran 5 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 0.720 seconds. Tear down zope.app.workflow.testing.AppWorkflowLayer in

Re: [Zope3-dev] working towards 3.4 alpha release

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Theune
in the branches seem unreliable. I propose to start make the clients do nightly builds. Also, do we have someone who is the official 'client nagging guy' to remind people when their buildbot clients die? Christian Am Samstag, den 14.04.2007, 10:19 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune: More test

Re: [Zope3-dev] working towards 3.4 alpha release

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Samstag, den 14.04.2007, 08:06 -0400 schrieb Benji York: Christian Theune wrote: I noticed that the buildbots have not run a successfull Zope 3 trunk build since March 25. :( The only builder that is configured to run the trunk and is currently on-line is zc-buildbot

[Zope3-dev] Cleaning up dependencies for Zope 3.4 eggs

2007-04-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, we're starting work on an application that we're going to use Zope 3.4 for and that I'd like to base on the eggs. That should give me the chance to clean up some of the egg dependencies. First thing that I found: ZODB 3.4 eggs just require ZODB3, but don't state a version. This should

Re: [Zope3-dev] The Zope3 Collector has been moved to launchpad.

2007-03-29 Thread Christian Theune
Am Donnerstag, den 29.03.2007, 11:12 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: New bugs can be filed at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+filebug Users can view their personal bugs at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~USER Using the menu on the left, they can pick between assigned, reported and

Re: [Zope3-dev] bit puzzled with directDelivery+smtpMailer

2007-03-29 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 29.03.2007, 21:37 +0300 schrieb Marius Gedminas: Hi, On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:31:12PM +0200, Adam Groszer wrote: I'm trying to catch somehow the exception that's coming when the SMTP server IP address is misconfigured or the SMTP server is not responding.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: IKeyReference for files

2007-03-28 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2007, 18:05 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Hey Christian, Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2007, 01:12 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: [snip] Quick shot on integrating the suggestion from Uwe: - Reserve an OID from the ZODB storage, maybe

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: IKeyReference for files

2007-03-27 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2007, 01:12 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Uwe Oestermeier wrote: Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreibt: Now I'm hoping I'm missing some kind of strategy and perhaps someone will have a luminous idea to make this work

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4 release

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 04:15 -0400 schrieb Fred Drake: On 3/23/07, Baiju M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need not to mimic the zpkg based release for 3.4, rather we should use zpkg for this release also. ... - our 3.4 alpha 1 release date is approaching, we follow

Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 14:00 +0530 schrieb Baiju M: Hi, (Please correct me, if I am wrong) All eggs of a particular release will be available from : http://download.zope.org/distribution/zope3/ . Here is some future locations: 3.4.0 - distribution/zope3/3.4.0 3.4.1 -

Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts for future releases of Zope 3

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 14:43 +0530 schrieb Baiju M: I think putting all eggs in one place for each release will be useful for those who make offline installation/deploy. So they can easily make use the 'download-cache' and 'install-from-cache' options of zc.buildout without any

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4 release

2007-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 08:41 -0400 schrieb Jim Fulton: Minor note: No one is talking about mimicking a zpkg release. The plan was to switch from using zpkg to eggs to create releases. Unfortunately, I don't think we have time to do this now, although I think we are getting

Re: [Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin

2007-03-22 Thread Christian Theune
Yikes. The failure I see wasn changed recently. Is it possible the buildbot farm just recovered and now detects errors that have slipped in? Christian Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2007, 23:40 -0400 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4

Re: [Zope3-dev] Buildout recipe for building Zope 3 application soley from egg ?

2007-03-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I haven't had time to look at your code yet. You might want to check svn in Zope3.buildout where we started working towards a Zope 3 release mechanism that builds purely from eggs. Also, the wiki has a proposal that mentions various issues. Christian Am Montag, den 19.03.2007, 14:41 +0530

Re: [Zope3-dev] Community opinion about workflow engine

2007-03-12 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, this definitely invites for some biased commenting. ;) Am Montag, den 12.03.2007, 16:48 +0100 schrieb Godefroid Chapelle: Hi all, We have the opportunity to bid for a project concerning the automation of administrative processes. The client currently has software in Python and

Re: [Zope3-dev] Community opinion about workflow engine

2007-03-12 Thread Christian Theune
Am Montag, den 12.03.2007, 12:16 -0400 schrieb Kapil Thangavelu: On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:48:24 -0400, Godefroid Chapelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have the opportunity to bid for a project concerning the automation of administrative processes. The client currently has

[Zope3-dev] Zope 3.4 release

2007-03-12 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, we (Jim, Nathan, Michael and me) did some planning on how we're going to release Zope 3.4 and the future Zope 3 releases that are based on eggs. I tried to catch up and did my writing here: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/DefiningZope34Release There is also a project in the repository in

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-08 Thread Christian Theune
, at 9:57 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi, [modified slightly from a similar proposal to zope3-dev to match Zope 2's publisher] I'm writing up a proposal for the ZODB to make even more efficient Blob handling possible. This includes not copying

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-08 Thread Christian Theune
Am Donnerstag, den 08.03.2007, 01:30 -0300 schrieb Sidnei da Silva: On 3/7/07, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose to create a small subclass to override the `make_file` method to use `NamedTemporaryFile` instead of `TemporaryFile` to allow the file being accessible from

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Montag, den 05.03.2007, 07:10 -0800 schrieb Martin Aspeli: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 5 Mar 2007, at 09:48 , Christian Theune wrote: I've added myself too. Thanks. I'd be interested in having some ZODB problem, although I'd like not to put the 'clean up

[Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'm writing up a proposal for the ZODB to make even more efficient Blob handling possible. This includes not copying the data from an uploaded file, but using a `link` operation when possible. However, the Zope 3 publisher currently uses the default implementation of the cgi module's

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 11:55 -0500 schrieb Stephan Richter: On Wednesday 07 March 2007 11:37, Christian Theune wrote: Does anybody feel like this would be a bad idea? As long as you do not monkey patch the existing code, this is totally fine. *k* No. I was talking about doing

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 08:03 -0800 schrieb Martin Aspeli: Christian Theune-2 wrote: It's on the ZODB trunk already for a while. The current trunk is going to be ZODB 3.8 and was already released as an alpha. And it will be the ZODB that ships with Zope 2.11

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 20:50 +0100 schrieb Dieter Maurer: Christian Theune wrote at 2007-3-7 17:37 +0100: I'm writing up a proposal for the ZODB to make even more efficient Blob handling possible. This includes not copying the data from an uploaded file, but using a `link` operation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 21:03 +0100 schrieb Bernd Dorn: On 07.03.2007, at 17:37, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'm writing up a proposal for the ZODB to make even more efficient Blob handling possible. This includes not copying the data from an uploaded file, but using

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 21:31 +0100 schrieb Uwe Oestermeier: Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreibt: Nope. It won't disappear if you link it again. And the link(src, dst) does move it to a 'save' location ;) Again I'm not convinced because you cannot be sure that no other process

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 21:37 +0100 schrieb Dieter Maurer: Christian Theune wrote at 2007-3-7 21:17 +0100: ... Nope. It won't disappear if you link it again. And the link(src, dst) does move it to a 'save' location ;) You do not tell us, which link you mean. Sorry. I mean

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 15:59 -0500 schrieb Benji York: Dieter Maurer wrote: Python's os.link creates a hard link which will only work if source and destination are on the same file system. ...and is also not available on Windows. Hrn. I tried to point you all to the upcoming

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 22:04 +0100 schrieb Uwe Oestermeier: Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreibt: Nope this is not the correct simulation. Who except your application knows about /tmp/asdf? You have to simulate deleting d.name and then you'll see that /tmp/asdf does not disappear

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
Am Donnerstag, den 08.03.2007, 00:32 +0100 schrieb Wichert Akkerman: Previously Christian Theune wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 21:31 +0100 schrieb Uwe Oestermeier: Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreibt: Nope. It won't disappear if you link it again. And the link(src, dst

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.3 branch: zope.app.interface.tests.test_interface.PersistentInterfaceTest failing

2007-03-07 Thread Christian Theune
I can't reproduce them on my 3.3 checkout either. Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2007, 08:54 -0800 schrieb Ross Patterson: Christian Zagrodnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hoi the Zope 3.3 branch tests fail here: Error in test test_persistentDeclarations

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I've added myself too. I'd be interested in having some ZODB problem, although I'd like not to put the 'clean up the interfaces' burden onto a student project that ought to be interesting. Christian Am Montag, den 05.03.2007, 08:13 -0500 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: Sidnei da Silva

[Zope3-dev] gocept looking for fulltime developer

2007-02-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, we're hiring. Just in case someone isn't reading the German lists or is interested to work in Germany, gocept is hiring. The German job description is here: https://members.zope.de/Members/ctheune/softwareentwickler-m-w/ (Note that the *ideal* candidate speaks German, but we might like you

Re: [Zope3-dev] Buildout default behaviour

2007-02-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, here's the pattern that we use: - create a directory 'profiles/' in your buildout - create a file 'profiles/base.cfg' that describes all parts and their default configurations - create a file 'profiles/dev.cfg' that has the development variation and uses '[buildout] extends=base.cfg' Then

Re: [Zope3-dev] Idea: Failure to lookup adapters

2007-01-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 16.01.2007, 20:28 +0100 schrieb Dieter Maurer: Sidnei da Silva wrote at 2007-1-15 17:25 -0200: ... The kind of info I'm looking for is something along the lines: 'We've tried to look up an adapter for (ISomething, ITheOther) but none was found' 'Found an adapter

[Zope3-dev] Some small thoughts about the term 'Zope 3 core' in the future

2007-01-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I was updating one of the proposals in this minutes and had a somewhat hard time to define a goal. I stumbled over the upcoming problem of defining the Zope 3 core and came up with this footnote for myself: Maybe this can be used as a spark to spur some discussion about the term 'Zope 3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Grok sprint 2 reports

2007-01-10 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 10.01.2007, 00:44 + schrieb Martin Aspeli: Code generation sucks. :) But: - ArchGenXML (hacky though it is) is great for business types because it takes UML (which business analysts understand and customers can be talked through) and produces content types

Re: [Zope3-dev] Builbot mail not working ?

2007-01-10 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, that one fails for me as well. I don't remember who checked this in, but I saw somebody talk about this change lately. Christian Am Mittwoch, den 10.01.2007, 10:31 +0530 schrieb Baiju M: Baiju M wrote: Hi, Can anyone verify that buildbot [1] send test failure error mails to list?

[Zope3-dev] zc.selenium test isolation

2007-01-10 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'd like to propose a change to zc.selenium to increase test isolation in the face of failing tests. We use demostorage elegantly by keeping a stack of wrapped storages that are pushed and popped automatically while the selenium tests run. However, when a test fails, selenium might skip a

[Zope3-dev] Zope 3.3.1

2007-01-10 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, after the initial Zope 3.3 release, we fixed quite a few bugs. I think it's time for a 3.3.1 release now, which would also help the upcoming Zope 2.10.2 release. If anybody has time to do the 3.3.1 release, that would be very welcome! Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 -

Re: [Zope3-dev] zc.selenium test isolation

2007-01-10 Thread Christian Theune
Am Mittwoch, den 10.01.2007, 11:04 -0500 schrieb Benji York: Christian Theune wrote: I propose to add an ultimate pop at the beginning of each test, to ensure consistency/isolation at those points. Where ultimate pop means to remove all stacked demostorages added by previous tests

Re: [Zope3-dev] I wonder whether we can add README file at subversion root directory to explain how differentiate zope 2 from Zope 3 project ?

2007-01-07 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, KLEIN Stéphane wrote: I wonder whether we can add README file at subversion root directory to explain how differentiate zope 2 from Zope 3 project ? I suggest this content : Frequently Asked Question : Q : What directory are Zope 2 and Zope 3 projects ? A : There aren't simple rules.

Re: [Zope3-dev] SOAP support?

2007-01-07 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Andreas Jung wrote: I am actually looking at options for bringing SOAP support into Zope 2. Is there some SOAP infrastructure available in Zope 3 (or some add-ons) and might be re-used in a reasonable way? I stumbled over a SOAP publisher yesterday, so I guess there is at least something

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC on wfmc issue 699, 700, 701

2007-01-02 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Adam Groszer wrote: Hello, In short: I would classify 699 and 700 as new features, 701 as bugfix. For more details read on. Issue 699 I hope if I change the event classes, by adding the interfaces existing code won't break. As stated by philikon this is not a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Launchpad - use it for more than just bug tracking?

2006-12-22 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey Christian, [using launchpad fo rmore than just bug tracking] I'm assuming silence from everybody is permission. :) Well, in that case I'll go ahead and clean up some of the project/product structures that exist in launchpad already (hopefully getting some

[Zope3-dev] Update on proposals for Zope 3.4 (was: [SpringCleaning07])

2006-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I've updated the spring cleaning proposal with the suggestions (and additional votes from people posting in this thread). Please have a look at: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SpringCleaning07 There still is an open sub-task, to check for packages that are in src/ but not distributed with a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Cleaning up the widget mess a little bit: bug or feature

2006-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Gary Poster wrote: On Dec 19, 2006, at 2:34 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi again, Gary Poster wrote: I don't have a very strong feeling about it, but lean towards bug fix. It didn't break any of our code (or at least any of our tests :-) ) so it seems safe from my perspective. I

Re: [Zope3-dev] IProcessStartingEvent

2006-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Garanin Michael wrote: Hello! I not found raise zope.app.appsetup.IProcessStartingEvent. Is it deprecated? A quick check on the trunk tells me that it is triggered. Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Z3d] 721/ 8 Comment Handling of empty prefixes in zope.formlib and zope.app.form

2006-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi Jacob, Jacob Holm wrote: I don't have time to check it in now, but I will do it in a few days unless i hear otherwise. I didn't see any change on this, if there is anything I can do to help or support your, I'd be happy to do so. No worries if you're just short on time (we're all on

Re: [Zope3-dev] Removing SSL/SSH-Keys from Skeleton

2006-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Michael Kerrin wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 21:32, Christian Theune wrote: Michael Kerrin wrote: Suppose I could merge some of the changes that from that branch to get rid of ssh_* and sftp code which should be independent of any twisted upgrade. Then a SSL cleanup is also

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Z3d] 721/ 8 Comment Handling of empty prefixes in zope.formlib and zope.app.form

2006-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jacob Holm wrote: I have now checked it in on the trunk, and backported to the 3.3 and 3.2 branches. Yay! You can tell me if there is anything else I need to do. From the perspective of the collector issue, this is all good. I'll close the issue. (Looks like you even were lucky and the

[Zope3-dev] Fixing ZServer bugs?

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I was able to reproduce http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/714 today. We have a patch from the reporter without and I don't see why the current tests fail to catch this behavior in the first place. Did we ever drop support for ZServer? The changelog reads 'replaced ZServer with

[Zope3-dev] Re: [DraftProposals]

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Neat! I saw those possibilities in the last days already and think it's a nice idea to manage them there. How did you make the existing specs appear there so quickly? Guess I'll play around a bit with the management of the series. One thing that we should consider: Do we want to handle Zope

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [DraftProposals] (edit)

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Pjotr Prins wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:11:21PM -0800, Christian Theune wrote: I don't think so. The Zope 3 wiki was built up as, and still is, a resource for the development *of* Zope 3. We shouldn't So according to you ZOPE3 is still an engineering project as the main Wiki

Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [SpringCleaning07]

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Roger Ineichen wrote: What does removal mean? We have two possible situations for a package that I'd like to consider during spring cleaning: 1. packages that are in the src/ tree but are not distributed with Zope releases The question is whether those packages are maintained and

[Zope3-dev] Launchpad - use it for more than just bug tracking?

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Me again, I've been playing around with the launchpad sandboxes and am pretty impressed by the features for managing specifications, doing release planning and getting all those things integrated. I'd like to propose that we think about using more of the launchpad infrastructure than just the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Usage of IAnnotations disrespects interface declaration

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Christian Theune wrote: Issue 735 (http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/735) describes a problem how IAnnotations are used within Zope. I agree that this should be changed. I'd like to get some discussion on the mailinglist on how to change this (I've added a short analysis

Re: [Zope3-dev] Cleaning up the widget mess a little bit: bug or feature

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Christian Theune wrote: I'd both apply r70331 and r71548 to 3.3 and 3.2 then. JFTR: I've backported the small restructuring and the bugfix in r71612 (3.2) and r71611 (3.3) Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope3-dev] Weird package in Zope 3 core: optionstorage

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi again, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I just stumbled over the package optionstorage. The checkin message when this was added reads: This is a generic solution for including editable and multi-lingual vocbulary-like information in any annotatable object. I'm not sure what that means

Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [SpringCleaning07]

2006-12-19 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Stephan, Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 2:53:33 PM, you wrote: zope.wfmc SR +1, but please make it very easily available. People do use this code in SR production; Zope Corp. and Adam Groszer come to mind. Yes, here :-) If it would be moved out of the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Core topic in Collector

2006-12-18 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Chris Withers wrote: I thought the idea of a seperate field was to make it a mandatory dropdown so that at least we know what version of Zope the reporter is using... We can know it without the drop down. Using the drop down would allow us to query for it or to restrict the entries to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Removing SSL/SSH-Keys from Skeleton

2006-12-18 Thread Christian Theune
Hey Michael, Michael Kerrin wrote: Suppose I could merge some of the changes that from that branch to get rid of ssh_* and sftp code which should be independent of any twisted upgrade. Then a SSL cleanup is also independent of an upgrade, come to think about it. Did you have any chance to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Cleaning up the widget mess a little bit: bug or feature

2006-12-18 Thread Christian Theune
Hi again, Gary Poster wrote: I don't have a very strong feeling about it, but lean towards bug fix. It didn't break any of our code (or at least any of our tests :-) ) so it seems safe from my perspective. I was trying to apply the patch to the 3.3 branch and noticed that the patch isn't

[Zope3-dev] Launchpad offer (Was: Core topic in Collector)

2006-12-17 Thread Christian Theune
Hi Steve, Steve Alexander wrote: I hereby offer the services of a member of the Launchpad team at Canonical to write Collector code if necessary in order to get an export of bugs from the Collector in a format that can be imported into Launchpad, to import said bugs into a demonstration

Re: [Zope3-dev] WFMC in core?

2006-12-17 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Adam Groszer wrote: Hello Christian, It seems that the activity has the attribute, but it's not declared in the interface. z.wfmc interface was/is quite out of sync with the implementation I think. I already fixed some, but looks like there are still some lurking. Any chance you want

Re: [Zope3-dev] Core topic in Collector

2006-12-15 Thread Christian Theune
Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: The Zope3 collector isn't actually *that* bad in this respect. IMO, it could do without the topic and version info fields. Topic I'd agree with, but I would have thought version info would be pretty useful? That's what I thought too. -- gocept

Re: [Zope3-dev] Core topic in Collector

2006-12-15 Thread Christian Theune
Jim Fulton wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: The Zope3 collector isn't actually *that* bad in this respect. IMO, it could do without the topic and version info fields. Topic I'd agree with, but I would have thought version info would be pretty useful? Sure, but it could go

Re: [Zope3-dev] Core topic in Collector

2006-12-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: ... Is it what needs to be fixed before a release? I think core is largely is a meaningless label in a system, the collector where we collect too much information already. Hmm. Would that mean we should provide better

Re: [Zope3-dev] Core topic in Collector

2006-12-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: There are much more interesting things to ask them for, like detailed instructions on how to reproduce a problem. Fullack. Right now we do that with a separate field. (In other collectors this also makes it easier to query/manage the bugs.) Certainly the field we

Re: [Zope3-dev] Core topic in Collector

2006-12-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: I'm sorry to bore you with that, but I didn't notice that we had a definite outcome of the last discussion. Of course not. That's what makes such discussions so tiresome. People have lots of ideas and complaints about easy solutions, like sticking with the current

Re: [Zope3-dev] WFMC in core?

2006-12-14 Thread Christian Theune
Jim Fulton wrote: On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Christian Theune wrote: That's definitely a good question. This might lead us to the discussion what Zope 3 is. Yes, which I don't particularly want to do now. :) Ack. I'm just interested in finding out priorities for bugs (for me

[Zope3-dev] Cleaning up the widget mess a little bit: bug or feature

2006-12-14 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Zagy and I stumbled over the widgets today, and I already had a workaround sitting on a widget that we wrote and wanted to remove this issue. The issue is that the method _getCurrentValue sometimes returns an 'input value' and sometimes 'a form value' (specifically: it returns a form value

[Zope3-dev] Regression of XMLRPC (or zope.app.testing.xmlrpc)

2006-12-13 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, either XMLRPC or the functional testing ServerProxy seems to have a slight regression. The zope.app.publisher.xmlrpc tests which use the functional testing ServerProxy don't fail. I've attached a doctest that demonstrates the failure on the trunk. (404 - Doesn't find the XMLRPC view.) The

Re: [Zope3-dev] Regression of XMLRPC (or zope.app.testing.xmlrpc)

2006-12-13 Thread Christian Theune
Yikes. Forget the attached version. I forgot to fix some errors in the test and didn't look deeply enough. *Sigh.* Btw: I remembered that it worked before 2006-12-10, trying to find a working revision now ... -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.recipe.zope3instance/branches/gocept-zconf-slug-dev/src/zc/recipe/zope3instance/__init__.py ignoring .svn in skeleton

2006-12-13 Thread Christian Theune
Benji York wrote: Christian Zagrodnick wrote: Log message for revision 71542: ignoring .svn in skeleton Might I suggest that any file with a leading dot be ignored. That would keep us from having to add exceptions for other revision control systems (at least CVS, bzr, and Mercurial

Re: [Zope3-dev] Regression of XMLRPC (or zope.app.testing.xmlrpc) [RESOLVED]

2006-12-13 Thread Christian Theune
Double yikes. I fell for a trap where multiple tests where failing in the same way and thought it was a core issue, but it were different issues each time, nothing to worry about Zope 3. I'm happy to see that Zope's test suites were correct. :) -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112

Re: [Zope3-dev] WFMC in core?

2006-12-13 Thread Christian Theune
Jim Fulton wrote: On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, what is our desire to keep WFMC workflow support in the core? What does core mean? That's definitely a good question. This might lead us to the discussion what Zope 3 is. Do we have/want a (sharp/blurry) border

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Z3d] 721/ 8 Comment Handling of empty prefixes in zope.formlib and zope.app.form

2006-12-12 Thread Christian Theune
Moving discussion from collector to list as discussions fit over here. We can link to the discussion and provide the result in the collector later. (For people joining the discussion, have a look at the collector entry to catch up if you like.) Collector: Zope 3 ... wrote: Issue #721 Update

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Z3d] 721/ 8 Comment Handling of empty prefixes in zope.formlib and zope.app.form

2006-12-12 Thread Christian Theune
Please ignore the last post, my mailer was too trigger happy. The real post will be there in a few minutes. Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Z3d] 721/ 8 Comment Handling of empty prefixes in zope.formlib and zope.app.form

2006-12-12 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Moving discussion from collector to list as discussions fit over here. We can link to the discussion and provide the result in the collector later, I'm not sure whether this needs so much more discussion though. (For people joining the discussion, have a look at the collector entry to catch

Re: [Zope3-dev] Java applets and zope3

2006-12-12 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Paul Carduner wrote: h3Fractals/h3 applet code=/Programs/Fractals/Attractor.class height=100 width=600/applet On the static site, this html loads the java applet perfectly. On the zope3 site however the browser recognizes the java applet, but it fails to load. Opening up the java

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