).
Same applies. The 'y' gets you where you want to be without using a lot
of processor cycles.
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of the note
stems on a note by note basis. I don't know if any programs
allow you to do this at present, but it will probably be required
in future.
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adjustments will always involve some human intervention.
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abc using V: started in
abc2midi and (at least in its basics) is now supported by most programs.
Irritating though it is for users, that seems to be the way that the
language progresses.
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language) let alone perl.
It's a simple fact of life that no Mac user is going to be able to
use abcm2ps until I, or Wil Macauley or somebody else who knows how
to do it compiles it for them and hands out the binary.
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commands. But it will
let you look at the pictures in the file (one at a time, and only in the
order in which they exist in the file), and it will let you convert them
to a more tractable graphics format, albeit at a fixed resolution.
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Bryan Creer wrote:
Phil Taylor wrote -
All extensions start out as program-specific.
Why? Why shouldn't they start out as proposals for discussion and feedback
from other developers and even users? That way the idea might be improved on
and clashes avoided and the resulting definition
:2] in the middle of a line. After all, that's what inline
fields are for. In this case, however, it makes no sense at all to change
voices in mid-line.
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. This would, of course, lead to a
lot of illegal V: lines in the abc that we see on a number of music
mailing lists.
I can see that we're going to end up having to write smart software
which can figure out the right answer from anything which looks like abc.
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meaning is obvious is an interesting
programming challenge. On the other hand, to allow too many variations
is to contribute to the deterioration of the language.
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to set their task aside to
think about or remember abstract symbols.
Hence, users achieve a significant productivity increase with the mouse in
spite of their subjective experience.
--
(Not wanting to start a GUI vs CLI war or anything - just thought you
might find it interesting.)
Phil
, but sometimes it just
gets concatenated with the data, and therefore corrupts it.
(Nice arrangements though, what I've listened to so far.)
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by Apple for that purpose.
It sounds as if your zipped midi files were in MacBinary format.
You should be able to turn that off in your zip program (if you
use Zipit, it puts the letters 'mb' in the right-hand column of
the contents table. Click on that to turn it off.)
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), but it certainly makes for
a different and interesting take on the music.
The reels (particularly the Irish reels) should go a bit faster,
and the title of the Morpeth Rant is mis-spelled.
I have only one question really. How on earth do you find the
time?
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with the U: field as a minimal extension to allow as many symbols
(globally) as necessary.
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John Walsh wrote:
Phil Taylor writes:
BarFly also supports macros, which are quite different in that they
allow the user to define anything that can be expressed in abc text.
It is not the case (as suggested in the draft standard) that U: is
used for staff notation and macros for playing
Henrik Norbeck writes:
| Phil Taylor wrote:
| [snip most of long quote from Apple]
| Hence, users achieve a significant productivity increase with the mouse in
| spite of their subjective experience.
|
| One advantage (over mouse commands) of a using more
| keyboard commands is that you have
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as a chord.
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JohnCarson:
But using syntax like _text really doesn't work
with either abc2ps or abcm2ps. So do you have other
way out?
I think jaabc2ps supports it.
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syntax, so ^text would write text
above the note, and _text would place it below.
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, although how the
author of the song could have known that is one of life's mysteries.
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. There are two
more verses, but nobody sings them any more because they're
anti-German rather than anti-Nazi, and we quite like the Germans
these days.
(Oh, no! It's the dreaded Copyright Topic again ...)
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everything to ANSI standard terminators? I know -
I'll have it use RS (Record Separator) characters, which is what the
standard says is the preferred terminator.
;-)
Technically, one abc tune = one record, so I suppose we should have
an RS at the end of each tune (but please don't:-)
Phil Taylor
is in the tune finder:
X:149
T:We're No Awa Tae Bide Awa
S:Catherine Smith, Dundee
Z:Nigel Gatherer
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
DE|F3 A GFED|F2 D2 D2 FA|d3 e dcBA|B4 A3 A|
d3 e d2 F2|G2 B2 A3 A|B2 A2 d2 F2|E4 D2|]
No idea about copyright, but I've always thought of it as trad.
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the
index would need an extra field to hold the information.)
Presumably this would not affect normal search robots at all, since they
won't index .abc files anyway?
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standard and a couple of people have implemented it. Since nobody
wants to change the way that their program works we have a deadlock.
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Anselm Lingnau wrote:
Phil Taylor wrote:
BarFly's macro processor does take lengths. You have to write
a separate macro for each length of note. The reason for this
is that an ornament which sounds right on a half note is often
wrong on an eighth.
I'm confused now. Suppose I had
of the pieces you have two lines in each voice.
This seems to me to be the worst possible compromise.
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it, but it's an easy way to extract
voices.
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is to make it a little more noisy.
Unless the enemy has a copy of the original picture/sound to compare,
there is no way he can prove that the intercepted message contains anything
unusual.
abc is simply too good at doing what it was designed for to be used for
anything else.
Phil Taylor
(Who has been
two staves when you want to print the staff notation is a very difficult task.
Steve Allen has a thoughtful discussion of this problem at:
http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/abcmusic/piano/piano.html
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.
What did you have in mind for the output of your library Taral?
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to this with respect to the V:
field. It proved to be very hard work. It is still incomplete,
and almost certainly contains errors, but you can read the results at:
http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/multivoice.txt
Corrections and additions are very welcome.
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in order to display the 900th tune. Remember that
the file may have been edited since the last operation without the
edits being saved, so it's not sufficient to just parse the whole
thing when it's opened.
As far as possible I prefer abc tunes to be self-contained.
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that it is not just drawing of the notes that is affected,
but playing them too.
Done!
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Gianni Cunich wrote:
I won't let your offensive emails drive me
away... Do you actually wish to ask Toby making this a censored list?
Not a bad idea actually. Why don't we take a vote on expelling Gianni
from the list?
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, but I don't think any of them will do the ottavo
mark.
(I also see I've stumbled on to the list at a time when there's much
discussion about moving on to a new standard. I wish you all the best of
luck with the process.)
Thanks!
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? Surely you just want to override the given tempo using a
setting local to your program?
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to be
played as a triplet, (3c/d/c/. There's a full description of the macro system
on the BarFly site: http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/bfextensions.html
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the header line by line and produce an error message when meeting
an illegal line. On the other hand, there is a clear demand for new
field types, and very few single letters left, so perhaps we should
consider it.
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for %% definitions.
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to the following note, leaving any later instance of the note
unchanged, and some programs may permit this as an option.)
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is what
is intended (e.g. in the Original Sacred Harp).
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John Chambers wrote:
Phil taylor writes:
| * It is very common to see repeats written as:
|
| abc |[1 abc :|[2 cba :|
|
| which is wrong (the last repeat should be written as || or |]), and is
| explicitly forbidden by the 1.6 standard. At the moment, because it's
| so common BarFly lets it go
from them).
I think most people who use abc2midi will be well aware of it.
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turtle doves
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||
w:Two tur-tle doves and
w:Three French* hens
w:Four ca-lling birds
%etc
[P:E] a2 b^g a4 || agfe d2 g2 | B2 d2 edcB A2 |
w:Five gold* rings, Four* calling birds, Three french hens, Two turtle doves
Plays fine in BarFly.
Now I've wasted all that time when I should have been shopping:-)
Phil Taylor
definitions is necessary because
the tune contains A and B notes, so the target string needs to be something
other than a single letter.
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to download the attachment whether
it's useful to them or not. Luis, the usual way of distributing binary
material like this is to put it on a website or ftp site and post the
url to the list.
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Guido Gonzato wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Phil Taylor wrote:
I would regard CC/ as an illegal construct since only makes sense
when both sides have the same length. Maybe this is the problem ?
I'm inclined to agree. It's not explicitly illegal in the abc standard,
but it's a bit ambiguous
does. It's not easy to fix, because if there is another F
in the second bar it should be natural:
CDE^F-|FEDC FEDC |
should play as:
CDE^F-|^FEDC =FEDC |
It needs some special-case code to handle it.
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Atte Andre Jensen wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Phil Taylor wrote:
I think you will find that several programs have this problem. BarFly
certainly does.
But how do *you* work with midifiles then?
I put in the necessary accidentals to make it play properly, even though
they are redundant
correctly, so I guess it should
work the other way round too). If you have been using the program's
more advanced features (redefinable symbols, macros, multivoice or
Gregorian notation) you will have some problems.
Mail me off list if you need any more help.
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last week) works properly. Versions 5.0 - 5.0.3 were bad, and I don't
know about 5.0.4 as I never saw it.
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remember where) as a translation for chalumeau,
which is also said to have been a forerunner of the clarinet
Yep The hornpipe (the instrument that is) was a single reed instrument,
blown by mouth, with a bell at the bottom made from cows horn - hence
the name
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(but how likely is that?)
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on having an
X: field at the beginning of a tune , all I have to do is to avoid what
I've done in this sentance, i.e. putting the characters X: at the start
of a line.
Not that that would kill the parser, of course, just display an error
message where the music should be.
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could probably cobble together something for a particular piece by
co-opting one of the unused pitches and re-tuning it, but there's no
general solution for that.
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-AbcTypedBy:Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
K:ADor
E2A2 ABcd | e2d2 c3A | B2G2 GFGA | B2AG E2D2 |\
E2A2 ABcd | e2d2 e2ag | e2d2 BedB | A4 A4 :|
|:\
a2e2 e2fg | abag e2fg | abaf g3e | dedB G4 | \
a2e2 e2fg | abag e2d2 | B2e2 d2B2 | A4 A4 :|
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will also run.
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the different programs a while back;
it's at:
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a field to
itself. Is it time perhaps to re-cycle the I: field, used long ago
to set tempo by playabc, but long superceded by the Q: field? Or should
a new lower-case field be considered?
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/ |c2 A | A3 \
[P:F]| b2 a | aba |\
[P:G] c'2b | bc'b |\
[P:H] e'2d' | e'd'd' |
[P:I]e b/e/ c'/e/ | d'e'c' |\
[P:J] b2a | agf |\
[P:K] a3 | agf |\
[P:L] a2 g | a3 ||
Probably not what you want to see in the staff notation, though.
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letters for the part names. If you do that
then BarFly plays it in the order specified.
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or another development
system to compile it as a free standing program within a drop shell.
You'd also need a lot of time, patience and technical knowledge.
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tunes with
chords? (Preferably with key and metre changes, frequent chord changes,
unusual chords etc. to give the code a roasting.)
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]|[C,8G,8C8E8G8c8] ||
%
[V:1] G2 (GF) ({F}(E)_D)(ED) | C8 |]
[V:2][^A,8F8^A8f8^a8f'8] |[C,8G,8C8E8G8c8] |]
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macros which define the meaning of a musical symbol
in a pitch-independant way, so that the macro does the right thing
whatever pitch of note the symbol is attached to.
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note preceded by the letter J. U:J = fermata won't work because
the program does not recognise fermata in quotes. You don't need the quotes
in a symbol definition, and you never write fermata in the music - you write
J (or whatever letter you have defined to represent it).
Phil Taylor
in this case).
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into the chords (or put them in a separate voice with
rests as Atte did in the first place). Actually, I think I like that
method best of all, even if it's not what happens in conventional notation.
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of
problems. One possibility would be to let you specify the font for
annotations. You could then use a font editor to create a special font
containing the symbols you want. Font editors are expensive though.
And of course tempi in words.
Coming soon to a screen near you.
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to smile without showing where the mistake is
on a separate record, as indicated in Bad tunes.
Send me the tune, Phil, and I'll take a look at it.
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.
In the mean time, turn offscreen drawing on - it's usually a good idea to
have this on unless you are running under very tight memory conditions.
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).
There are a lot of problems with usage of the V: field - it's not at all
standardised. I wrote a summary of the differences between programs which
you might find useful.
It's at http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/multivoice.txt
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1) Let's vote about what the opinion is with spam. Do you think it's a
good idea that only subscribers can post here.
Yes. Why would non-subscribers want to post (apart from spam) anyway?
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X:3
T:Rodney's Glory
C:Guitar arr by Phil Taylor
H:Named for the eponymous admiral, best known in the UK for
his success against the Spanish at the battle of Corunna, and
in the USA for his failure to stop the war of independance by
bombarding various places on the East coast. The Royal Navy
this, if
we add percussion to the list of clefs.
If you want percussion abc to be played as well as displayed, you will have
to bear in mind that there is a standard relationship between midi
instruments and
pitch.
Phil Taylor
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still needed to
align the voices correctly. You would probably have even more need for
this in a percussion score.
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/ or as F3 F adding up to 3.
Which is correct?
At the moment I advise users to avoid using broken rhythms between
unequal notes on the grounds that the result is unpredictable - if
in doubt write it out in full.
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can see that such hints could be
useful to a program which generated tablature from abc.
Having said that, it's clear that if he wanted to mark every note with
fret/string markings, he ought to be using tablature in the first place,
rather than abc.
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that they are currently working to
support Quicktime, so this should improve in future. Executor is
expensive, but the free demo version does everything but print.
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in which they are located.
If the answer is not, why abc2abc extracts it only for the last voice?
Post the tune and the result so we can see what's happening.
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to the tune I
want repeated.
When you play a tune in BarFly, the tune which plays is the one where the text
insertion point is located. If you move the insertion point yourself you
may find a different tune plays than the one whose music is on display. Is
that what's happening here?
Phil Taylor
not
part of the abc.
I'd like (g) to be automatic if at all possible, but it remains to be
seen if that can be done.
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in a regular pattern invoked by the
R: field.
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, but then you've lost all
compatibility with the existing standard and cluttered up the abc
by adding nine extra characters to invoke a single musical symbol.
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, though, so maybe it'd be suitable as a test tune for an
abc parser. ;-)
Ooh that's dirty! Ties across metre changes, across into and out of
broken rhythm pairs, broken rhythms used as part of triplets...
And it actually works as a piece of music too.
Might I suggest An Evil Grin as a title?
Phil
should download this as
there are a few more bugs fixed in the final release.
Users who have registered the previous version need take no special
action, as your registration will be good for all subsequent versions
until futher notice.
Get it from:
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Enjoy!
Phil
-order, BarFly seeks for the P:
fields in the specified order within each voice in turn, ignoring the
contents of the other voices. You could, in fact, make the parts play
in a different order within each voice (although I can't immediately
think of a reason why you might want to).
Phil Taylor
of the Goldberg Variations has the
two hands written in different metres.
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to read the dots, but it can serve as an easy introduction to the
concepts of musical notation.
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now talking about display rather than
playing.
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normally, and triple beams
when the keysig is Hp or HP. Single gracenotes still have single
tails though (not enough room in the screen display for multiple tails
on such tiny notes). I might add these when the music is enlarged for
printing though.
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have a nice
printed page of music, and when you run it through a copier, you find
that some of the edges fade out.
Good things to bring up when some salesman starts talking about the
high quality of their equipment.
Yeah:-)
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