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ing List To: everything-list Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 8:30 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List Nixon, still hooked into it like a opiate. The khmer joined in incursions as they were called back then, and joined in cross border attacks on US tr

Re: American Intelligence

hing-list Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 8:31 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List Sound good, I will go look for a brain, and you can begin your search for a heart, Mr. Tin man. Oh I have a heart, brainless one... it is you who are heartless and ar

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Chris, nobody in power shares my love for global war, as you put it, but I am very logical in noting the decline of American effectiveness, and prowess. The world is soon becoming, a No Country for Old Men sort of place, thats less free and more dangerous. A weakend US now invites attack, but t

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Re: RE: American Intelligence

Well if we're speaking to the money spent by Bush and Cheney. That has now vanished under tbe Obama quantitative easing, that earmarks his administration. BHO has racked up 12 trillion,on behalf of his Wallstreet friends in unsecured debt. That hopy changey guy made Bushies trillions look like

Re: RE: American Intelligence

Well if we're speaking to the money spent by Bush and Cheney. That has now vanished under tbe Obama quantitative easing, that earmarks his administration. BHO has racked up 12 trillion,on behalf of his Wallstreet friends in unsecured debt. That hopy changey guy made Bushies trillions look like

Re: American Intelligence

ect: Re: American Intelligence On 7/4/2014 8:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Well if we're speaking to the money spent by Bush and Cheney. That has now vanished under tbe Obama quantitative easing, It vanished into the sands of Iraq, in order to

Re: American Intelligence

at, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:38 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi terrorism as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/06/how-scared-of-terrorism-should "Taking these figures into account,

Re: American Intelligence

Because the nuances of national defense, according to everything you have stated and suggested, is that we would need to sustain a heavy domestic attack, before you'd send American boots marching. You see it as an unclean, dirty, rightwing, imperialist thing, or most likely, and inside job by t

Re: American Intelligence

: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 4:27 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 4 July 2014 23:12, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Reminds me of the Wizard giving the Tin Man a Diploma at the end of OZ. What they do have, my good fellow, is a Diploma!" I have a dipl

Re: American Intelligence

can't manage to become civilised even with that, then we don't really deserve to be called homo sapiens. -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 4:35 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 5 July 2014 04:36, spudboy100 via Everything Li

Re: American Intelligence

I dare to disagree with fearless leader and his party! The gulags were run by people with this kind of thinking. How dare I judge the leadership by what it yields, rather then adherence to ideology, or kowtow because the dude has African genetics? How dare I? Tee-hee-hee!! -Original Mes

Re: American Intelligence

o: everything-list Sent: Fri, Jul 4, 2014 9:05 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 7/4/2014 5:52 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > Chris, nobody in power shares my love for global war, as you put it, but I am very > logical in noting the decline of American effectiveness, and p

Re: American Intelligence

You cannot dance at two weddings as they in Texas. There are sometimes situations where things, I have to tell you, render themselves as Manichean, sorry to say. Sometimes, its they hand that we are dealt and are forced to play. Why have wars, if we don't have the tenacity and the bloodymindedn

Re: American Intelligence

effect in the result: more drugs, more violence, more terror, less security, less freedom. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 5:52 am Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 05 Jul 2014, at 00:38, spudboy100 via Everything List w

Re: American Intelligence

You do know the concept of asymmetrical warfare? I didn't say you have to agree with it, but please, acknowledge that historically its a strategy that has legs. So dismissing a few thousand fighters as a zero threat is insane. It would be insane if we ignore a re-purposed jihad against the US.

RE: American Intelligence

So you never would support the use of US military forces under any circumstances, is this correct? Secondly, theres nothing more fascist,then a cadre of billionaires controlling the dem party. These boys out Koch the Koch's and one would be hedge fund manager and Marxist billionaire, George Sor

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

In Robert Heinlein's vericose veined, juvenile novel, Starship Troopers, the right to vote was earned through service in an all volunteer military. I Never liked Heinlein's preachiness, and stridency, because, meh, if that was his mythical society of the 24th century, whats the real incentive,

Re: RE: American Intelligence

Everything you post is an attempt at derision, which is an attempt to fudge things, or as Alinsky opined, "freeze it, attack it." However this avoids answeing a question or two. Its not that tough a question. Under what circumstances would you chose to send US soldiers into war? -- You receiv

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at 9:37 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: What would trigger you to send troops? Not what you wouldn't do, but what conditions you would? No more evasion, please. When would yo go to war? I answered this. You do not return courtesy of in

Re: A world without elephants...

The guy Gelerntner, of Havard, I think, just proposed that African elephants be brought to the US, to preserve the species. These are dangerous suckers so I agree with some hesitation. A species I woulsn't allow in on wildlife reservations, would be the face eating chimpanzees. According to Fra

Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

equences...) Yeah, I was thinking that myself. Maybe its the God spot that makes us human? ;-) -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 7:39 pm Subject: Re: Age limit...a modest proposal On 7 July 2014 10:17, spudboy100 via Everything List wro

Re: American Intelligence

initely not have some prepackaged answer that I would parade on public web lists. That would be strategically insane. -Original Message- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 9:03 am Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence On Mon, Jul 7, 20

Re: American Intelligence

ge- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 7:41 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Plato, you cannot answer for Chris, sorry to say. Your presentation of the majority of Isl

Re: American Intelligence

erything List To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 8:52 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List What would trigger you to send troops? Not what you wouldn't do, but what conditions you would? No more evasion, please. When wo

Re: American Intelligence

uist To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 7:42 am Subject: Re: American Intelligence Why bother with expensive carpet bombing. Just nuke them. Unsigned On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: It sounds reasonable, however as the country tune says. "

Re: American Intelligence

" now? -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 8:52 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List What would trigger you to send troops? Not what y

Re: American Intelligence

Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 7:42 am Subject: Re: American Intelligence Why bother with expensive carpet bombing. Just nuke them. Unsigned On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: It sounds reasonable, however as the country tune says. "Ya gotta stand for

Re: American Intelligence

-Original Message- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 9:03 am Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Everything you post is an attempt at derision, Why? You post your prej

Re: American Intelligence

Herr general. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:01 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: American Intelligence

ma's IRS. They are your's, now, Mr. Trostsky and now you own them. ;-) -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:03 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy

Re: American Intelligence

in power. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:18 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List That statement reminds me of one of Hunter S. Thomson&

Re: American Intelligence

everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:28 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List I will never be your 'darlin' -- not even after hell freezes over... so don't get your hopes up piss ant. Well, maybe its simply that He who l

Re: American Intelligence

From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:30 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: American Intelli

Re: American Intelligence

thing-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 2:01 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:09 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: That statement reminds me of one of Hunter S. Thomson's attorney, from his epic "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas." Y

Re: American Intelligence

pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sure, as long as you view the lives of jihadists as sacrosanct, and Americans or others as disposable, the violence will continue because theres no incentive for them no to. Just

Re: American Intelligence

genocidal maniacs such as you are not in power. -Original Message-From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:18 pmSubject: Re: American Intellige

Re: American Intelligence

genocidal maniacs such as you are not in power. -Original Message-From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:18 pmSubject: Re: American Intellige

Re: American Intelligence

5:46 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: Re: American Intelligence You indicated you had a few disputes with Obama. His national se

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up inside your own brain. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 8:16 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday

Re: American Intelligence

From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 2:08 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List >>Sure, there is always human paranoia as component is any perceived threat. >>Yo

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

You may have written exhaustively on this before, but, one more time please. How do you build a theology based on mathematics. I don't see Pythagoras as being a source of happiness for most earthlings. Of yourself, I have no doubt! Also, maybe the God of the Bible all came from Lucid Dreaming.

Re: American Intelligence

pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List Americans don't say "cheers." Bwah hah hah hah! Now you do have the capability to exclude mail recipients if you are using Outlook.The "One quarter of the human race"

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Re: American Intelligence

increase their likelihood. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 7:32 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

Heres' a question. What would be bigger, genuine AI, or the discovery of another technological civilization in the galaxy??? -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 9:34 pm Subject: Re: What's the answer? What's the question? On 10 July 2014 13

Re: American Intelligence

pendantic because of changing circumstances anyway. Foraward march. -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 10:59 pm Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 10 July 2014 14:56, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrot

Re: RE: American Intelligence

You worldview is pretty much solid Left, and you conspiacy theories are consistent with what it preaches, in academia, and large elements of the news. I am not dismissing this worldview out of hand, but just stating openly, that this view is what holds power in the execitive branch. I don't se

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

: Re: What's the answer? What's the question? On 09 Jul 2014, at 21:52, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: You may have written exhaustively on this before, but, one more time please. No problem. I'm always happy if I can clarify. How do you build a theology based

Re: My hero(ine)

Funny you should mention this. Here is my hero, a many of the people! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCtaZibVa6w -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Fri, Jul 11, 2014 5:54 pm Subject: My hero(ine) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jckm3X5MXo -- You received

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

Technology confounds me for its so hard to seemingly determine which technology lays fallow for decades and then emerges, seemingly, out of no where. We're still working on fuel cells for everyone, a concept dating from 1839! Desalinization works commercially, or does it? Solar power and fusion

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Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

I don't see people rushing into uranium and thorium power, nor, do I see fusion coming along in two decades. For spaceflight, yes, for commercial power, we just don't seem to be lucky with the physics of the universe. Perhaps new discoveries about stellar formation might finally boost things al

Re: Atheist

You pretend that atheists have some dictatorial power. In the US, it seems to be getting this way. 40 or 50 years ago the reverse used to be true. In public schools, public meetings, there was an attempt to enforce Christianity as a state religion. Now, in the US, the reverse is true. In

Fwd: Atheist

On 7/12/2014 4:00 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Youpretend that atheists have some dictatorial power. In the US, it seems to be getting this way. 40 or 50 years ago the reverse used

Re: Atheist

Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 2:14 am Subject: Re: Fwd: Atheist On 7/13/2014 3:47 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Sure: "Do you believe in a theist god?" I'd like to. So w

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

Until the pay out machine stops. Things will shudder for the gated communities before then. My guess will be that the foreign policy stuff, that's not included in the environmentalist world view, or the community organizers, visions. History will come a-calling, like in 2001, simply because the

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

Even more to the point, Alberto, I just saw this headline. What does this speak to you? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/10965887/People-who-claim-to-worry-about-climate-change-use-more-electricity.html -Original Message- From: Alberto G. Corona To: everything-list S

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

We can improve efficiencies for all forms of solar production and wind and if we can fund it, OTEC. Also there is technology which looks like it can pump out 2 years of frozen methane on the sea floors. Moreover, wind, solar, and gas can be set in in under 36 months, where as you already po

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

, Jul 14, 2014 5:35 pm Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? On 7/14/2014 1:24 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > An all electric plane may never arrive, but through materials science, using materials like graphenes, like superconducting materials, that

Re: Atheist

Both the right and left? Naw! The Left respects useful tools practicing religion for the cause. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, are the most prominent and successful, for the 'cause.' The cause is ideological, a faith movement, sans, religion. as such. Is religion bloodthirsty? For sure. Worldwi

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

>> >> I´t´s not me, that is in world of some prominent ecologists. some of >> them collaborators of Obama. Let me check to find the references. >> >> 2014-07-14 23:34 GMT+02:00, meekerdb : >>> On 7/14/2014 1:24 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >&

Re: Selecting your future branch

What do you two say about this (year old) Science 2.0 article, in relation to the mathematical description of reality? The writer is or was a physicist at CERN. I have heard, Lord Rees, UK's astronomer royal, say the same thing. http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/physics_resurr

Re: Atheist

You cannot now claim, baring evidence, that we can change reality, even here on planet Earth, in a cogent way. It's like somebody falling off Mt. Evidence, in which we can have an opinion about our dilemma, but reversing gravity or dreaming up a parachute to use during our fall is not part of t

Re: Selecting your future branch

Whom do you anticipate performing the emulation? Comp is used as an abbreviation of computationalism, or CTM (computationalist theory of the mind). it is basically the assumption that the brain is computer emulable. That is detailed in the step 0 of the UD Argument. -Original Messag

Re: Selecting your future branch

mputation" are concept definable in arithmetic, or equivalent. It is amazing, without doubt, but part of standard computer science. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Fri, Jul 18, 2014 6:56 am Subject: Re: Selecting your future branch

Re: Selecting your future branch

a completely precise ay, making it possible to test the computationalist hypothesis. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Fri, Jul 18, 2014 12:24 pm Subject: Re: Selecting your future branch On 18 Jul 2014, at 16:54, spudboy100 via Everything List

Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?

27;t needed any yet. Brent -Original Message- From: meekerdb To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Jul 19, 2014 9:43 pm Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? On 7/15/2014 2:40 PM, spudboy100 via Everyt

Re: It Knows That It Knows

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ach"? Brent -Original Message- From: meekerdb To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 5:57 pm Subject: Re: It Knows That It Knows On 7/22/2014 2:45 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Ant colonies are not hooked together by neurons

Re: Atheist

Memes cannot survive without a human brain. We are their vehicle, but are the our effluent, or our children? -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 3:47 am Subject: Re: Atheist I agree to an extent, but this sort of argument tends to drift towards t

Re: One in the eye for Hoyle?

One physicist joked about observing the universe too much, because obseving might cause the cosmos to be destroyed. Shrodinger wave function collapse and all that. -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Jul 29, 2014 7:26 pm Subject: Re: One in the eye for Hoyle?

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

Are you a logical positivist, then? You must not like Nicolas Taleb's Black Swan argument either. Just like Og, below! I am Og. The idea that we can't know what we will see or do next came from that great thinker Og the caveman and he used induction not logic to develop it; he remembered th

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

I wonder what is testable? We cannot test for unicorns or dragons. But have we missed the boat somehow, by not using better equipment to test with. If you ever look at ghost hunters they seem to use small, hacked, smartphones, or not so smart phones (2G,3G), and listen afterwards for "voice", o

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

Is there a neurobiologist in the house?!! Seems, to be an estimation that most h. sapiens are what the philosophers call 'zombies.' On 8/5/2014 4:59 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Normally, up to 87% of what we take away from each other's utterances is carried by the "meta data" of body l

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

We are one person then. constantly at literal and figurative war with one another. This, at best, is a psychotic, individual. I reject it, unless someone comes up with better reasoning, Whatever Bruno came up with, it seems unrelated to this conclusion. Unless the Microsoft slogan refers to MWI

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

Whatever Alberto is, he is not a fascist. The billionaires run the show nowadays, in at least 3 governments, the US, China, and Russia. Money buys access to power and provides influence. Many of the billionaires are Sympatico, with your own view, from what I have read of your views, and are thu

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

More precisely. give us more and more power over people, rather then fund, sufficiently, remediative energy and anti-pollution technology, or engineering projects on coastlines round the world, because this is our religion/faith movement. To quote mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emmanuel, "Never let a

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

ou to be free. 2014-08-07 13:42 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List : Whatever Alberto is, he is not a fascist. The billionaires run the show nowadays, in at least 3 governments, the US, China, and Russia. Money buys access to power and provides influence. Many of the billionaires ar

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

When we look at geophysical forces, the action of biochemistry, over the long millions of years, humankind is puny. Nature, Biochemistry, Geo-activity, Evolution, are all neutral things, because it is the human senses, and thought, that gives value, or de-value, to all of these. I don't think p

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

This can't be correct. There are at least 2 trillion barrels worth of keragen, in the 4 corners are of Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and Colorado. There may be sane reasons for never using this resource, price/cost ratio, being the foremost, and also the costs of water and land remediation, added on

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

ug 8, 2014 7:42 pm Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers From: spudboy100 via Everything List To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ec

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

55 pm Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers On 8 August 2014 23:42, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: When we look at geophysical forces, the action of biochemistry, over the long millions of years, humankind is puny. Nature,

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

, Aug 10, 2014 2:05 am Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers On 10 August 2014 02:15, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: You don't need to alter your politics, simply be aware, that there appear to be rich people who seek a di

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

ny hands as connectivity required for the appropriate item. JM On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:05 AM, LizR wrote: On 10 August 2014 02:15, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: You don't need to alter your politics, simply be aware, that there appear to be rich people who seek

Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and alternative energy lovers

#x27;modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow. Thanks John M On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Let me know when it

Re: Electron spin and consciousness

It used to be Tegmark (of all people) and other physicists, years ago, who used to foam at the mouths when scientists outside physics would dare speculate that the human brain might do quantum computations. In fact, the hard asses may be correct, technically, in the sense that the brain is not

Re: Electron spin and consciousness

it doing science to the best of his ability. On 18 August 2014 07:42, spudboy100 via Everything List <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com";>mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com";>everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: It used to be Tegmark

Re: AI Dooms Us

The problem and delight of the Terminator, Skynet monster, originally a mix of US-Soviet AI's merging together (courtesy Harlan Ellison) is that they lads act on their own. My own fear is not mad program code, but the humans behind the coding. A reviving cold war 3, or 4, is far more concerning

Re: AI Dooms Us

We have to have a real success to get people emotionally geared to AI threat remediation. It's not SKYNET that threatens us, its ourselves. Plus, the ruling elites, who's politics are now Progressive, are not motivated to deal such a problem. We don't have international unrest protesting any tec

Re: AI Dooms Us

The entire universe as a sim? Could even an AI handle it? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes To: everything-list Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 05:16 AM Subject: Re: AI Dooms Us On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM, LizR

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

If plants and ant colonies (animals) are so darn smart, one of their best moves would be to cut a deal with the human species, something mutually, beneficial. I hold that great silence indicates that no, plants and ants ain't that conscious. Mitch -Original Message- From: Bruno M

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