Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... Organizationally it wouldmight even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpointas to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend thisteaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity froman element organization; could be created by simply removingcomplainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility ofwidely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your dome badge?
[FairfieldLife] Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The sleep paralysis is an interesting explanation. I do recall, though, (30 years ago), that she heard them on the stairs first and then they came into the room, described their big black eyes, and small form. Glad I didn't wake up. She didn't talk about it afterwards, and being such a traumatic experience for her, it wouldn't have been very considerate for me to ask her about it. We were not UFO buffs at all. Weird stuff, and like you say, maddeningly, never definitive. Interestingly, most people who report abduction experiences aren't UFO buffs. They don't really need to be though, the experience has followed popular culture closely. It seems the imagery in films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind has become well and truly universal. There were no alien abduction reports before Hollywood got busy with the subject. Even the first such tale, the case of Betty and Barney Hill, seemed suspiciously like an episode of sci-fi TV show The Outer Limits that was broadcast a few weeks before. Couple these reference points with the human imagination and it's a potent formula. In the old days of goblins and elves they used different imagery in sleep paralysis (if that's what it was) incidents. The mind is a strange place. I just wish I'd had experiences like this, but it didn't matter how many haunted houses I slept in or cold hillsides I camped on I never saw anything unusual! Some of the famous abduction stories are so far out they defy any categorisation, that so many are only revealed under hypnosis makes them more easily dismissed, but even in the most well known and inexplicable ones that have been studied and written about, I'm firmly in the camp of aliens being the least likely explanation. But I keep my eye on it all as I like watching how the story has evolved and find the abduction researchers really interesting. The internet has ruined it because there are so many sites of such low quality and transparently nonsensical conspiracy rubbish it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Most would say it's all chaff but the evolving beliefs tell us a lot about current social fears about nuclear war and genetic engineering and distrust of government. Interesting to see it bubble up in the guise of terrifying humanoids that invade our homes at night. And then there's how the classic UFO stories get tweaked to fit the new narrative, the type of stories that get reported and the type of aliens involved have changed so much in my lifetime that the Earth must by the busiest place in the universe with hundreds of incoming craft from different worlds/dimensions every hour. We sure are popular! Interesting stuff, there's probably a folklore PHD or two in there somewhere
[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay. On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign up for people queueing to see Interstellar: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
[FairfieldLife] Hey, Galileo Was Right!
| | | | | | | | | | | Hey, Galileo Was Right!One of the funny things about being a human is that our intuition can steer us wrong, even on things that should be pretty obvious, things we see literally every da... | | | | View on www.slate.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/11/15/proving_galileo_brian_cox_gets_the_drop_on_physics.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really bad ethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems is well known for things not being right around money, sex and power. “Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culture which has allowed, coerced, and condoned some really poor and even appalling ethical standards in a group of people. That would be my observation. It is said that change comes from within. There evidently is a lot of movement going on right now in the new TM Movement. I can see a hope for a better TM movement in process, like in changing or even getting rid of this ethos as an administrative policy tool. -Buck in the Dome FW: A Cultural Survey.. Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Dear friends, ..on a committee, the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee for the Mental Health Alliance here in Fairfield I am working with a sub group of that committee, the Cultural Committee, on one particular area right now. Which is to understand the meaning of phrases that have become a part of our local culture here. There are phrases which mean many things to many here. Some of these meanings may have lead to an erosion in mental health. I have written this group as a smattering of a cross-culture living here to get your understanding of the phrase, Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Thank you, # # The 1980 Pledge. Things in TM did seem to change from about then to become some lot about some theocratic sense of fealty and a lot less as to merit and performance. Is noteworthy that the Saha Nav hymn was extracted up to become a normative organizational code of conduct in an oath then (1980). C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. Quote from Upanishads, which was used in Vedic Atom Pledge (1980) Let us be together, Let us eat together, Let us be vital together, Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life, Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Culture: Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Such that within the culture of TM the TM negativity policy like with the TM Saha Nav Hymn for instance, if someone commits a larceny within an element of the organization then by the teachings it would be entertaining negativity to administratively examine that action in another person or within such element of an organization by others. Or let us say hypothetically that someone commits some abusive harassment within an organizational element using some position of power over someone it would be committing a negativity to raise or consider that situation for the negativity that it should engage. Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be solved by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. Never do we entertain negativity and never do we denounce anyone. Hamstrung? Proly was often best to not say anything living within the culture. Dare anyone call a spade a spade in TM? -Buck # # “..speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally. Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important as daily practice of meditation.” So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Ha ha ha ha! Good point Turq!
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From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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... Organizationally it wouldmight even be communally better from a spiritual
energetic standpointas to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to
extend thisteaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity
froman element organization; could be created by simply removingcomplainant who
got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility ofwidely
entertaining such negativity altogether in the group.
Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your
dome badge?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
My daughter raved about the books and the original movie, so I watched the
first film - loved it. Then I read the books and was glad I did, all three are
well worth reading and of course better than the films, tho the movies are true
to the spirit of the books.
The scene in the first film of Peta throwing Katness the bread is handled
differently in the books, or rather the scene is not clear in the film - it is
the pivotal scene in the books and really defines the future relationship
between the two characters. But over all a great series - the extras on the DVD
are pretty interesting, especially the interviews with Donald Southerland (and
the fact that most of the first movie was filmed in North Carolina)
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star
in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between
our perceptions and reality points out.
Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all
time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing
film of the year for the second year in a row.
Here's another hint: It's not a he.
http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which
surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it
than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but
it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie.
JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets.
Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the
society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
Nolan defends sound in Interstellar
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at
how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay.
On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign up for
people queueing to see Interstellar:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star
in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between
our perceptions and reality points out.
Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all
time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing
film of the year for the second year in a row.
Here's another hint: It's not a he.
http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which
surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it
than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but
it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie.
JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets.
Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the
society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
That danged internet has ruined so many things for you, it seems. At least skimming what you've written below, which sounds like your usual stuff. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The sleep paralysis is an interesting explanation. I do recall, though, (30 years ago), that she heard them on the stairs first and then they came into the room, described their big black eyes, and small form. Glad I didn't wake up. She didn't talk about it afterwards, and being such a traumatic experience for her, it wouldn't have been very considerate for me to ask her about it. We were not UFO buffs at all. Weird stuff, and like you say, maddeningly, never definitive. Interestingly, most people who report abduction experiences aren't UFO buffs. They don't really need to be though, the experience has followed popular culture closely. It seems the imagery in films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind has become well and truly universal. There were no alien abduction reports before Hollywood got busy with the subject. Even the first such tale, the case of Betty and Barney Hill, seemed suspiciously like an episode of sci-fi TV show The Outer Limits that was broadcast a few weeks before. Couple these reference points with the human imagination and it's a potent formula. In the old days of goblins and elves they used different imagery in sleep paralysis (if that's what it was) incidents. The mind is a strange place. I just wish I'd had experiences like this, but it didn't matter how many haunted houses I slept in or cold hillsides I camped on I never saw anything unusual! Some of the famous abduction stories are so far out they defy any categorisation, that so many are only revealed under hypnosis makes them more easily dismissed, but even in the most well known and inexplicable ones that have been studied and written about, I'm firmly in the camp of aliens being the least likely explanation. But I keep my eye on it all as I like watching how the story has evolved and find the abduction researchers really interesting. The internet has ruined it because there are so many sites of such low quality and transparently nonsensical conspiracy rubbish it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Most would say it's all chaff but the evolving beliefs tell us a lot about current social fears about nuclear war and genetic engineering and distrust of government. Interesting to see it bubble up in the guise of terrifying humanoids that invade our homes at night. And then there's how the classic UFO stories get tweaked to fit the new narrative, the type of stories that get reported and the type of aliens involved have changed so much in my lifetime that the Earth must by the busiest place in the universe with hundreds of incoming craft from different worlds/dimensions every hour. We sure are popular! Interesting stuff, there's probably a folklore PHD or two in there somewhere
[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
I enjoyed the first one. The second one deteriorated terribly, IMO. Don't intend to see the third. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My daughter raved about the books and the original movie, so I watched the first film - loved it. Then I read the books and was glad I did, all three are well worth reading and of course better than the films, tho the movies are true to the spirit of the books. The scene in the first film of Peta throwing Katness the bread is handled differently in the books, or rather the scene is not clear in the film - it is the pivotal scene in the books and really defines the future relationship between the two characters. But over all a great series - the extras on the DVD are pretty interesting, especially the interviews with Donald Southerland (and the fact that most of the first movie was filmed in North Carolina) That bread throwing scene was enigmatic at first but as they repeated it in the movie you saw how it meant different things to them. Surprisingly enjoyable all told, which is always nice when it happens. Nothing like low expectations being confounded! I tape a lot of stuff off the TV and can generally tell if it's going to be worth the effort within minutes. I shall check out the sequel, maybe it's on TV this weekend... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
He's entitled to his opinion, but he's completely and totally wrong.
It would be one thing to render dialogue that isn't critical to being able to
understand the plot unintelligible...but to do that with dialogue that is
supposedly explaining How The Fuck His Supposed 'True Science' Works? That's
simply mistreating and abusing the audience, for no other reason than because
he can.
I think he's caught David Lynch Disease, and is trying to be obscure just to be
obscure, in an attempt to get good reviews from critics who...uh...give good
reviews to shit they don't understand, mistaking lack of coherence for
profundity.
I still thought the movie was interesting, but to be honest his brother
Jonathon's writing and production for his TV show Person Of Interest are much
better than Christopher's in this movie. Compared to the consistently good
quality of POI, this movie comes across as an exercise in amateurish
ego-posturing and Not Giving A Shit About The Audience. I would willingly watch
any episode of POI again, but would not willingly watch either Interstellar
or his previous film Inception again. Why *reward* someone for intentionally
making a movie difficult to follow or understand?
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
Nolan defends sound in Interstellar
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| Nolan defends sound in InterstellarDirector Christopher Nolan defends the
sound in his film Interstellar, after viewers complained they couldn't hear
sections of dialogue. |
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| View on www.bbc.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at
how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay.
On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign up for
people queueing to see Interstellar:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star
in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between
our perceptions and reality points out.
Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all
time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing
film of the year for the second year in a row.
Here's another hint: It's not a he.
http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which
surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it
than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but
it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie.
JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets.
Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the
society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
I have to agree with all you have said, and in my neganaut vibe I couldn't
help but draw the comparison to the TM Movement's mind set to explain their
excesses, .ies and bullshit the same way Oh, uhh yew jist don't unnerstand -
ain't nuthin' wrong with this, all this is good fer yew!
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
He's entitled to his opinion, but he's completely and totally wrong.
It would be one thing to render dialogue that isn't critical to being able to
understand the plot unintelligible...but to do that with dialogue that is
supposedly explaining How The Fuck His Supposed 'True Science' Works? That's
simply mistreating and abusing the audience, for no other reason than because
he can.
I think he's caught David Lynch Disease, and is trying to be obscure just to be
obscure, in an attempt to get good reviews from critics who...uh...give good
reviews to shit they don't understand, mistaking lack of coherence for
profundity.
I still thought the movie was interesting, but to be honest his brother
Jonathon's writing and production for his TV show Person Of Interest are much
better than Christopher's in this movie. Compared to the consistently good
quality of POI, this movie comes across as an exercise in amateurish
ego-posturing and Not Giving A Shit About The Audience. I would willingly watch
any episode of POI again, but would not willingly watch either Interstellar
or his previous film Inception again. Why *reward* someone for intentionally
making a movie difficult to follow or understand?
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
Nolan defends sound in Interstellar
| |
| | | | | | | |
| Nolan defends sound in InterstellarDirector Christopher Nolan defends the
sound in his film Interstellar, after viewers complained they couldn't hear
sections of dialogue. |
| |
| View on www.bbc.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at
how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay.
On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign up for
people queueing to see Interstellar:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star
in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between
our perceptions and reality points out.
Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all
time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing
film of the year for the second year in a row.
Here's another hint: It's not a he.
http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which
surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it
than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but
it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie.
JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets.
Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the
society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Buck, Your contrived persona is obscuring your POV. I have some sympathy for your concerns with a movement that you have invested so much in and rightfully believe your have a right to direct its course. I see your good intentions, and think I even get some, but not all, of the faux personality you are projecting and a more real one underneath. (Although you have blurred the lines too much for me to be sure about any of that.) But you are coming up against what is for me an intractable problem with Maharishi's premises. In his system: there is only one king and that was him and now he is dead. Although he gave lip service to Guru Dev, he was not constrained by any of that tradition and did whatever he wanted to with his movement. He was fully empowered to make it what it became. The leaders in the movement do not have that freedom. They cannot amend any of the long standing policies of their leader who in the end was not the nicest guy. He was a power broker, a user of people he believed were lower in consciousness than himself, and he had a vocal contempt for the principles of democracy. You are living a contradiction that is poetically expressed in your two personas here. Your natural instinct as an adult is to determine your future with your own values. But you are involved in a dysfunctional group who does not respect your adulthood. People who hate what critics of the movement write here frame it in terms of negativity. But speaking for myself, I write from the perspective of hope. I was once trapped as you are by a system of thought that limited my personal growth as a self determined adult. Freeing myself from that system began the most exciting journey of self discovery of my life. It is MY life. Most of the time I just say, if you dig TM and the movement, good for you, you found something you value. But you are a conflicted soul Buck. And you are trying to change a system that prides itself in not deviating on iota from the MASTER'S wishes, even after death. When I was in TM I embraced it all and I changed my mind to fit Maharishi's mindset. But you are much older than I was and I can't imagine that this is really possible for you. You have become spiritually eclectic far beyond what is permissible in TM as you found out with the badge issues. You are your own man in a group who will never respect you for that. Is there anything more odious than unsolicited advice? Well we both have a bit of history here of offering it to each other anyway so I guess that ship sailed. So here it goes: I think you have grown out of TM and its limited mindset. Good luck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really bad ethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems is well known for things not being right around money, sex and power. “Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culture which has allowed, coerced, and condoned some really poor and even appalling ethical standards in a group of people. That would be my observation. It is said that change comes from within. There evidently is a lot of movement going on right now in the new TM Movement. I can see a hope for a better TM movement in process, like in changing or even getting rid of this ethos as an administrative policy tool. -Buck in the Dome FW: A Cultural Survey.. Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Dear friends, ..on a committee, the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee for the Mental Health Alliance here in Fairfield I am working with a sub group of that committee, the Cultural Committee, on one particular area right now. Which is to understand the meaning of phrases that have become a part of our local culture here. There are phrases which mean many things to many here. Some of these meanings may have lead to an erosion in mental health. I have written this group as a smattering of a cross-culture living here to get your understanding of the phrase, Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Thank you, # # The 1980 Pledge. Things in TM did seem to change from about then to become some lot about some theocratic sense of fealty and a lot less as to merit and performance. Is noteworthy that the Saha Nav hymn was extracted up to become a normative organizational code of conduct in an oath then (1980). C: The context is his teachers who were
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
If Brit tv is anything like American where they edit the movie to allow much
more advertising in, they wind up cutting a lot out - well worth the effort to
get or rent the DVD and check out the extras, well worth it.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
My daughter raved about the books and the original movie, so I watched the
first film - loved it. Then I read the books and was glad I did, all three are
well worth reading and of course better than the films, tho the movies are true
to the spirit of the books.
The scene in the first film of Peta throwing Katness the bread is handled
differently in the books, or rather the scene is not clear in the film - it is
the pivotal scene in the books and really defines the future relationship
between the two characters. But over all a great series - the extras on the DVD
are pretty interesting, especially the interviews with Donald Southerland (and
the fact that most of the first movie was filmed in North Carolina)
That bread throwing scene was enigmatic at first but as they repeated it in the
movie you saw how it meant different things to them. Surprisingly enjoyable all
told, which is always nice when it happens. Nothing like low expectations being
confounded! I tape a lot of stuff off the TV and can generally tell if it's
going to be worth the effort within minutes.
I shall check out the sequel, maybe it's on TV this weekend...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star
in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between
our perceptions and reality points out.
Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all
time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing
film of the year for the second year in a row.
Here's another hint: It's not a he.
http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which
surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it
than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but
it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie.
JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets.
Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the
society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : This could be a complete shambles - or it could be fantastic. Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll is a planned fantasy-horror film by Marilyn Manson that has been in development since 2004! Directed by Marilyn Manson it stars Marilyn as Lewis Carroll, English model Lily Cole as Alice, Evan Rachel Wood as Alice's alter ego and British actress Tilda Swinton as Lewis Carroll's dream wife (the real Lewis Carroll never married). The trailer is adult and avant-garde. I hope Marilyn gets to finish it. Prepare yourself . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=5 I think I would give this a wide pass. I can tell it's going to be a loser and I didn't even look at the trailer. Chalk it up to intuition.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The sleep paralysis is an interesting explanation. I do recall, though, (30 years ago), that she heard them on the stairs first and then they came into the room, described their big black eyes, and small form. Glad I didn't wake up. She didn't talk about it afterwards, and being such a traumatic experience for her, it wouldn't have been very considerate for me to ask her about it. We were not UFO buffs at all. Weird stuff, and like you say, maddeningly, never definitive. On 11/17/2014 3:42 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Interestingly, most people who report abduction experiences aren't UFO buffs. It has already been established that perception is reality - we have several eyewitness accounts to paranormal events which have been found to be REAL experiences, yet unexplained. For example, there is the case of /Fred Lenz/, who was observed to be a flying object up in the sky by hundreds of observers on numerous occasions, as reported on FFL recently. In one case, Lenz flew from the desert floor up to the side of a nearby mountain and waved at the people down below. So far, these experiences have NOT been discredited by you or anyone else on this forum. The only report that has been scientifically discredited is the notion that Fred Lenz was in fact an alien from another planet or solar system and was the /Last Incarnation of Lord Vishnu, /as claimed by Barry./ An unidentified flying object, or UFO, in its most general definition, is any apparent anomaly in the sky that is not identifiable as a known object or phenomenon. /http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_flying_object They don't really need to be though, the experience has followed popular culture closely. It seems the imagery in films like /Close Encounters of the Third Kind / hasbecome well and truly universal. There were no alien abduction reports before Hollywood got busy with the subject. Even the first such tale, the case of Betty and Barney Hill, seemed suspiciously like an episode of sci-fi TV show /The Outer Limits /that was broadcast a few weeks before. Couple these reference points with the human imagination and it's a potent formula. In the old days of goblins and elves they used different imagery in sleep paralysis (if that's what it was) incidents. The mind is a strange place. I just wish I'd had experiences like this, but it didn't matter how many haunted houses I slept in or cold hillsides I camped on I never saw anything unusual! Some of the famous abduction stories are so far out they defy any categorisation, that so many are only revealed under hypnosis makes them more easily dismissed, but even in the most well known and inexplicable ones that have been studied and written about, I'm firmly in the camp of aliens being the least likely explanation. But I keep my eye on it all as I like watching how the story has evolved and find the abduction researchers really interesting. The internet has ruined it because there are so many sites of such low quality and transparently nonsensical conspiracy rubbish it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Most would say it's all chaff but the evolving beliefs tell us a lot about current social fears about nuclear war and genetic engineering and distrust of government. Interesting to see it bubble up in the guise of terrifying humanoids that invade our homes at night. And then there's how the classic UFO stories get tweaked to fit the new narrative, the type of stories that get reported and the type of aliens involved have changed so much in my lifetime that the Earth must by the busiest place in the universe with hundreds of incoming craft from different worlds/dimensions every hour. We sure are popular! Interesting stuff, there's probably a folklore PHD or two in there somewhere
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
*From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *... Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be created by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. * On 11/17/2014 2:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your dome badge?/* /Just for the record, the only informants on FFL that have been kicked out of the dome by the TMO are Rick, Michael, and Barry - for going over and blabbing to other Saints, Yogis and Fakirs and revealing the TM mantras outside the TM teaching environment./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. /* */ /* */Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. /* */ /* */Here's another hint: It's not a he. /* */ /* */http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj/* /* */On 11/17/2014 3:51 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film. /The movie does sort of lose it's impact when it is viewed on a 14 inch laptop computer screen. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
On 11/17/2014 4:10 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay./* /My suggestion is to see these films on the big screen at a theater that has the Dolby HD Surround Sound - viewing movies like this on a computer laptop doesn't do justice to the photography or the soundtrack. Do they still have movie theaters over in Leiden? Go figure./ *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. /* */ /* */Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. /* */ /* */Here's another hint: It's not a he. /* */ /* */http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj/* I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If Brit tv is anything like American where they edit the movie to allow much more advertising in, they wind up cutting a lot out - well worth the effort to get or rent the DVD and check out the extras, well worth it. It's a fair point. On Film 4 they usually tell you in the description in the EPG when a movie has been edited for violence or sex but I hope they don't do it to get them down to a particular length. Other channels aren't so helpful and it annoys me when I see that something has been cut out of something I saw at the cinema. Especially if it's trivial. I always write and complain to crap TV companies when they screw something up. I had a long argument with a PR guy at Channel 4 where they show The Simpsons every night and they were cutting the violence out of Itchy and Scratchy! Talk about missing the ironic point! But they stopped doing it so I considered it another victory. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My daughter raved about the books and the original movie, so I watched the first film - loved it. Then I read the books and was glad I did, all three are well worth reading and of course better than the films, tho the movies are true to the spirit of the books. The scene in the first film of Peta throwing Katness the bread is handled differently in the books, or rather the scene is not clear in the film - it is the pivotal scene in the books and really defines the future relationship between the two characters. But over all a great series - the extras on the DVD are pretty interesting, especially the interviews with Donald Southerland (and the fact that most of the first movie was filmed in North Carolina) That bread throwing scene was enigmatic at first but as they repeated it in the movie you saw how it meant different things to them. Surprisingly enjoyable all told, which is always nice when it happens. Nothing like low expectations being confounded! I tape a lot of stuff off the TV and can generally tell if it's going to be worth the effort within minutes. I shall check out the sequel, maybe it's on TV this weekend... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? [1 Attachment]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay./* /* */On 11/17/2014 4:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign up for people queueing to see Interstellar: Seriously, I don't think the sound will be a big issue on your laptop computer. /Nolan has now responded to the criticism by saying the sound was exactly how he wanted it after six month’s work, and at certain points he wanted to use dialogue 'as a sound effect'. This involved making it quieter than other noises “to emphasize how loud the surrounding noise is./ *In space, no one can hear you speak* http://tinyurl.com/k8srquf View image on Twitter *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. /* */ /* */Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. /* */ /* */Here's another hint: It's not a he. /* */ /* */http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj/* I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
On 11/17/2014 6:34 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Ha ha ha ha! Good point Turq! /Yes, it was a good point, but TurqB forgot to include the fact you got kicked out by the TMO, not for being a negative complainer, but because you failed to do your job on the food service staff setting out the tables.// So, in fact you are the only informant that we know of that actually got kicked out of the dome and their pod and told to pack bags and get on a bus back home to SC./ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 3:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *... Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be created by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. * */Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your dome badge?/*
[FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation. We’re told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for about a half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a devotee of the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily meditation that he has it built into his shooting schedules. Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at commercial shoot http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at comme... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. View on www.nydailynews.com http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
Bravo for addiction.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry
Seinfeld
Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra.
A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when
Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation. We’re
told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for about a
half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a devotee of
the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily meditation that
he has it built into his shooting schedules.Seinfeld caught taking meditation
break at commercial shoot
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? [1 Attachment]
Richard, I'm guessing that one of the meta messages of the movie is that we
feel disconnected when we can't hear others and they can't hear us. But I think
the basis of all that is not being able to hear and connect with our own inner
emotions, sensations and thoughts. I think I'm getting better at that via
staying with the breath, especially during upsets.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie
star in the world? [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised
at how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay.
On 11/17/2014 4:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign
up for people queueing to see Interstellar:
Seriously, I don't think the sound will be a big issue on your laptop computer.
Nolan has now responded to the criticism by saying the sound was exactly how
he wanted it after six month’s work, and at certain points he wanted to use
dialogue 'as a sound effect'. This involved making it quieter than other noises
“to emphasize how loud the surrounding noise is.
In space, no one can hear you speak
http://tinyurl.com/k8srquf
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star
in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference
between our perceptions and reality points out.
Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of
all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the
highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row.
Here's another hint: It's not a he.
http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj
I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which
surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too
it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it
but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie.
JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets.
Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how
the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Beautiful, Fleetwood. About a month ago I started thinking about what I call sustainable spirituality. What's wonderful is that I don't have to do anything to sustain it (-: From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good Persistence - One's identity associates with what lasts the longest. When pure awareness, not awareness of anything, but awareness of the source of everything, a current of deep silence, accompanies everything, while the 'everything' continuously changes, the identity shifts, after awhile, to that persistent pure awareness. We are no longer what we previously thought lasted the longest; job, family, thoughts, beliefs, or even physical life. We identify with pure awareness. We are pure awareness. This greatly eliminates the question of what is. It simply is. Pure awareness is the persistent reality. This being the case, there is no longer such a strong identification of what is mine, such an edifice built of 'me'. If there is not much me, how can there, then, be a strong not me? The idea, even the sense, of subjective vs. objective, no longer makes complete sense. However, even on the basis of all of this silence, my personality continues along, trying not to get me into too much trouble, though ever serving my Infinite curiosity. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Jim, when you say objectively, can you elaborate on that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : ...a major infraction of the Barry Doctrine - LOL - yes, he is quite the cranky old fundamentalist, isn't he? Glad you enjoy reading my experiences, Steve, and yes, they are mine...subjectively, and objectively. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Again, what am I missing? A large part of Barry's content here, is reminding, (okay, usually yelling at) people, that their subjective experiences don't mean anything. They are just their own, subjective experiences. And most people accept that. Or at least the part that they are their own subjective experiences. So, when Jim reports his experiences, I think they're pretty cool. But they are his experiences. So, according to Barry, we should be fawning over them? That would be a major infraction of the Barry Doctrine Barry, we are following the game plan. It's all good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Game, set, and match again, Curtis. Mr. Angry Little Enlightened Man has a history of doing stuff like this. Remember not long ago when he claimed that he wasn't stalking me on the Internet and then tried to prove it by finding a photo of me that he could only have found by stalking me on the Internet and posted it? What an ass clown. The only thing one needs to remember about Jim Flanegin to put him into perspective is that after all this time claiming to be enlightened (how long has be been doing it now...ten years?), he cannot produce *even a single person* who believes his claims. Not one. That's pretty pathetic, if only on the level of complete lack of charisma. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good Did you just call a stranger on the internet a poopy pants? That is adorable. Who's my angry little man? You are, goochi goochi goo. Where's that smile. Come on, where is that smile Mr. Frowny Pants. There it is! I see it now. Smile for the bad, bad man whose words make you feel this way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : What a bunch of BS, Curtis. I have seen you be a sneaky, underhanded, back-stabbing little shit on here, much more than once, which you then seek to bury, rationalize, and justify, under a ton of words. You are not evil, Curtis, waaay too petty to be evil - just a mean-spirited, and unsuccessful, jerk. This word-flood isn't working, no matter how much rational Curtis, has convinced asshole Curtis, that it is. So, save this favorite story for your gullible friends - The rest of us see right through you. Have a nice day. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : WGM4U: Curtis-wiki is useful, but not the final word. C: I only went there for the quote, I already knew what the phrase meant and used to own the gag statue. WGM4U: Hear, see and speak noevil is just a catch-all phrase meaning stay on the positive side oflife, IMHO. If you entertain evil,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe
cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning.
Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Hi Curtis, still fumbling here and what I'm sensing is that, in terms of knowledge, my interpretation of what Maharishi meant is something more than what I'll call everyday knowledge. In fact, I've often wondered if by knowledge, Maharishi didn't mean Truth. But maybe I've now descended into splitting hairs (-: From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Share, I think you make a great case for taking care of yourself (diet and exercise), getting enough rest, and if you feel tired in the afternoon, take a nap. I am on board with all of that. We are both welcome to our own interpretations of what part meditation plays in that. If it is something you value and enjoy it is none of my business. It was Maharishi's claim that I disagree with. I don't see any connection with what you said below with knowledge being different in different states of C. I suspect even at your most unsettled and unrested, if I asked you about something you know about, you would just answer me just as you do when you are feeling better. That is because your knowledge isn't different in different states of consciousness. That our variable feelings are different in different states would make a better case than about our knowledge being different. All we can say is that we feel better or worse at different times, and our body's state seems to affect this. The variable of how much consciousness I am experiencing at any one time seems like a very small variable among more important factors. How much I care about something is the biggest predictor of how rich my knowledge is and given something I care about, I will fight through any fatigue factor to do it as much justice as I can to a subject I care about. Again, we are just talking here. It is a great way to sort out thoughts isn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis and Steve, I'm also just thinking out loud, sort of fumbling around with all this. Because KISIC and KIDIDSOC always resonated with me as being true. They felt right. But it's also fun to try and reason them out as well. But as I said, I'm just fumbling around, exploring, also sort of playing with words and our accepted meaning of them. As I've said before, I don't really think in terms of higher and lower states of consciousness. I think of more developed brain states, meaning, more of the brain functioning in a very healthy way. Which I think would automatically be of benefit to the world. I'm assuming that if most of a person's brain was functioning in a very healthy way, then that is how they would behave. It seems like a reasonable assumption to me. More fumbling, but here's an example from my life and I'm not claiming any higher SOC. But I do know that when I'm rested, when my physiology is settled, I feel more in harmony with the people around me. And I treat them more positively. That's a major value for me, and I think for them too. OTOH, if I'm upset or distracted, I can't even be with them as completely, so my knowledge of them at that moment, is incomplete and therefore not as valuable for either of us in terms of living a rich human life. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Share, I agree that there is some conflating here of mental abilities and knowledge. C: You mean by Maharishi in his examples, right? He started the comparison which you are labeling conflation. S: I think it is the typical apple/orange thing. The way the concept was presented by Maharishi was the obvious difference between waking, sleeping, and dreaming states of consciousness which we note in every day experience. C: That was another example he used. The clear and foggy, tired not tired example was also his. Of course saying that these are different mental states doesn't really make any practical case for how it might apply to our daily life which is why he needed to extend the example. Saying that our knowledge is different in deep sleep is a bit of a stretch because it is a state of zero consciousness. So it isn't that the knowledge is different as much as the knower is gone. In dreams we also have a very altered sense of self so there really isn't a parallel there either. It isn't that our knowledge, which is by his definition experience and understanding.The understanding part is missing because the experience is not organized as it is in waking state. So saying that these are different style experience does nothing to establish the principle he is attempting to establish, that knowledge
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Steve, you remind me of something I've been hearing for years: that airplanes are OFF COURSE 80% of the time. Nonetheless most of them manage to make it to their destination. And I agree, it's a fun ride overall.IMHO, winter has arrived way too early! From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I guess it's like shooting the rapids, only maybe that implies too much thinking. But you aim for the v, and then let the current do the rest, with maybe some slight adjustments along the way. Okay, maybe some larger adjustments on occasion. But, overall it is a fun ride. And it is nice that you were able to have a silent, but positive influence on your friend. I think that's the way it works too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Hi Steve, I think being on auto pilot about all this is a great way to be. And sometimes it's fun to actually think about some of Maharishi's concepts that I simply have taken for granted for so long. Another experience I've been having recently fascinates me because it seems to be self contradictory: I'm both more spontaneous but less expressive. I think I'm doing emotional processing more on the inside, so that when I speak, my speech is more lively, more full of life force. But I'm not really expressing emotions. Does that make sense? It's a very different experience for me, feels very good. A friend said that after she had dinner with me, she felt that all the anger towards her SO was gone! That also made me feel really good. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Hi Share, I think I have probably lost my interest in unpacking KISIC and its corollary too much. I am willing to accept the premise of the seven states of consciousness. And as such, I will allow that from fourth thru seventh states, there are differences. I would say the reason I am willing to do so, is that I have observed my experience change over the past 40 years as I have embarked on a spiritual path. Now, the funny thing, is that I don't pay much, if any attention to any experiences I might have. But neither do I deny them, or do I feel a need to berate others for describing their experiences. Nay, I find them inspiring, just as I enjoyed hearing the experiences you related the last couple days. I also have derived inspiration from the Vedic/Hindu texts to which I have had exposure, although I have not really looked at anything in decades. As I understand it, the Buddhist texts, or Buddhist philosophy describe similar states So, in a sense I have been on auto pilot. To bottom line it, I believe that, as humans, the experience of realizing that the world around us, is just our self, is the ultimate reality. And so this this covers both KISIC and KIDIDSOC. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis and Steve, I'm also just thinking out loud, sort of fumbling around with all this. Because KISIC and KIDIDSOC always resonated with me as being true. They felt right. But it's also fun to try and reason them out as well. But as I said, I'm just fumbling around, exploring, also sort of playing with words and our accepted meaning of them. As I've said before, I don't really think in terms of higher and lower states of consciousness. I think of more developed brain states, meaning, more of the brain functioning in a very healthy way. Which I think would automatically be of benefit to the world. I'm assuming that if most of a person's brain was functioning in a very healthy way, then that is how they would behave. It seems like a reasonable assumption to me. More fumbling, but here's an example from my life and I'm not claiming any higher SOC. But I do know that when I'm rested, when my physiology is settled, I feel more in harmony with the people around me. And I treat them more positively. That's a major value for me, and I think for them too. OTOH, if I'm upset or distracted, I can't even be with them as completely, so my knowledge of them at that moment, is incomplete and therefore not as valuable for either of us in terms of living a rich human life. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Share, I agree that there is some conflating here of mental abilities and knowledge. C: You mean by Maharishi in his examples, right? He started the comparison which you are labeling conflation. S: I think it is
[FairfieldLife] Most Absurd TM rumor
I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
[FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
[FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Curtis, I understand your desire to somehow get in touch with the more real personality underneath Buck's faux personality, but I honestly don't think there is one any more. I mean, we're talking about someone who is still so guru-whipped at his age that the only way he can bring himself to question the TMO is to hide behind a faux Stephen Colbert-like fictional persona, albeit one without any of Colbert's intelligence or comic timing. If he can't be honest enough to be Doug Hamilton and express what Doug Hamilton thinks, I have to write him off as not worth the effort. Because *nothing* about Buck interests me in the least. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 3:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good Buck, Your contrived persona is obscuring your POV. I have some sympathy for your concerns with a movement that you have invested so much in and rightfully believe your have a right to direct its course. I see your good intentions, and think I even get some, but not all, of the faux personality you are projecting and a more real one underneath. (Although you have blurred the lines too much for me to be sure about any of that.) But you are coming up against what is for me an intractable problem with Maharishi's premises. In his system: there is only one king and that was him and now he is dead. Although he gave lip service to Guru Dev, he was not constrained by any of that tradition and did whatever he wanted to with his movement. He was fully empowered to make it what it became. The leaders in the movement do not have that freedom. They cannot amend any of the long standing policies of their leader who in the end was not the nicest guy. He was a power broker, a user of people he believed were lower in consciousness than himself, and he had a vocal contempt for the principles of democracy. You are living a contradiction that is poetically expressed in your two personas here. Your natural instinct as an adult is to determine your future with your own values. But you are involved in a dysfunctional group who does not respect your adulthood. People who hate what critics of the movement write here frame it in terms of negativity. But speaking for myself, I write from the perspective of hope. I was once trapped as you are by a system of thought that limited my personal growth as a self determined adult. Freeing myself from that system began the most exciting journey of self discovery of my life. It is MY life. Most of the time I just say, if you dig TM and the movement, good for you, you found something you value. But you are a conflicted soul Buck. And you are trying to change a system that prides itself in not deviating on iota from the MASTER'S wishes, even after death. When I was in TM I embraced it all and I changed my mind to fit Maharishi's mindset. But you are much older than I was and I can't imagine that this is really possible for you. You have become spiritually eclectic far beyond what is permissible in TM as you found out with the badge issues. You are your own man in a group who will never respect you for that. Is there anything more odious than unsolicited advice? Well we both have a bit of history here of offering it to each other anyway so I guess that ship sailed. So here it goes: I think you have grown out of TM and its limited mindset. Good luck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really badethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems iswell known for things not being right around money, sex and power.“Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culturewhich has allowed, coerced, and condoned some really poor and evenappalling ethical standards in a group of people. That would be myobservation. It is said that change comes from within. Thereevidently is a lot of movement going on right now in the new TMMovement. I can see a hope for a better TM movement in process, like in changing or even getting rid of this ethos as an administrative policy tool.-Buck in the Dome FW: A Cultural Survey.. Never entertainnegativity. Would you be so kind as to give us yourunderstanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how yourunderstanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to asksomeone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, thatwould be great. Dear friends, ..on acommittee, the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee for theMental Health Alliance here in Fairfield I am working with a subgroup of that committee, the Cultural Committee, on one particulararea right now. Which is to understand the meaning of phrases thathave become
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be created by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. On 11/17/2014 2:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your dome badge? Just for the record, the only informants on FFL that have been kicked out of the dome by the TMO are Rick, Michael, and Barry - for going over and blabbing to other Saints, Yogis and Fakirs and revealing the TM mantras outside the TM teaching environment. I was kicked out for listening to a guy called Robin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Heard stories of the Maharishi miracles of being in two places at once, telling the driver to do high speeds and ignore red lights to get to the airport, taking back by magic a crystal necklace from what's-her-name when she refused to return it to him, and heard of MMY touching a guy's brain-tumor head and saying let them do anything but don't let them cut -- which then healed.
[FairfieldLife] Tom Campbell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/17/2014
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : This could be a complete shambles - or it could be fantastic. Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll is a planned fantasy-horror film by Marilyn Manson that has been in development since 2004! Directed by Marilyn Manson it stars Marilyn as Lewis Carroll, English model Lily Cole as Alice, Evan Rachel Wood as Alice's alter ego and British actress Tilda Swinton as Lewis Carroll's dream wife (the real Lewis Carroll never married). The trailer is adult and avant-garde. I hope Marilyn gets to finish it. Prepare yourself . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=5 I think I would give this a wide pass. I can tell it's going to be a loser and I didn't even look at the trailer. Chalk it up to intuition. So, I just watched about half of that and I have a few observations and a few questions. I found myself getting angry watching this. Then I had to ask myself why was I getting angry? And I realized a couple of things. Although this thing is truly horrific and some of the images could stay ingrained your mind for quite some time I have to say, what is the goddamned point? Do we really lack enough horrific events in everyday life that we need to recreate more on a big screen and dole it out to some audience under the guise that this is somehow about Lewis Carroll? That somehow Marilyn Manson, of all people, has an inside track on what animated the man? Marilyn Manson is a freak show. If he feels compelled to spew more ugliness and violence into the world then he needs a reality check. Ugliness and violence are everywhere - in you and in me and in every other sentient being that walks the earth - especially if they are human. A whole lot of the imagery involved dismembered bodies, female bodies and the sex and the blood and the implied and also graphic imagery gives voice to a really twisted vision. There is suggested violence against animals as well. It is not hard to get a rise out of people, if you want to make a viewer squeamish or indignant or sick or horrified it is not hard and it is not art. Sometimes when you see a thing you are also given a visceral impression, a clear indication that it is best not to allow certain images/vibrations/content into your body and brain. This appears to be one of those things. Anybody?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging and weaving going on with movement claims where if one claim is seen as not accurate the target is shifted, like flying becomes the much less measurable world peace. So we have claims about mental development and how the growth of consciousness expands and since that is the container of knowledge our knowledge is somehow improved. (exactly how it does is not spelled out.) In the end you have people saying stuff like they feel more wholeness, or unboundedness or purity,bliss, or simplicity, or any other of a list of vague puffy words that, although poetic, don't really describe more than a nice feeling inside. And we forget that originally the claim was about knowledge and not just a nice internal feeling. What I am saying is that I don't believe that this connection of the expansion of consciousness feeling has proven to have any affect at all on people's knowledge in any way that seems to matter or is detectible outside their own self satisfied feeling about themselves. Same for Maharishi. He seemed like a super ambitious guy and an empire builder who made his share of mistakes like any other super ambitious guy. I don't see anything in what I heard him say after a decade and a half of listening to every tape of him talking I possibly could, that couldn't be replicated by anyone who was a good speaker and versed in the Hinduism he believed in. If anything he was a bit of an intellectual slacker by never mastering the all important Vedic language of Sanskrit while claiming that his mental state was so refined he didn't need to do the work that mastery would take. He was more of a business man dabbling in just enough spirituality to keep us entertained on courses. But once I started reading the books for myself I realized how thin his presentation of the breadth of the Vedic literature really was. He was a Reader's Digest Vedic guru pitching a superficial self congratulatory version of the Vedas. I heard this complaint from more than one Sanskrit scholar in the movement BTW. I also had an interesting exchange with Vernon Katz in Yugoslavia where he knowingly told me that Maharishi was quite the optimist about his teaching. I know he loves Maharishi but I am quite sure he saw through more of Maharishi's intellectual pretensions and failings than most. So what is the evidence that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness? I don't have any. It seems like a cool idea that just didn't see to pan out. And with the movement functioning on the level it does intellectually, when I listen to movement leaders like Raja Dude and Hagelin, I have to conclude that whatever they are talking about isn't something that someone who doesn't share their religious notions about being saved by these states of salvation, needs. YMMV of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Hi Curtis, still fumbling here and what I'm sensing is that, in terms of knowledge, my interpretation of what Maharishi meant is something more than what I'll call everyday knowledge. In fact, I've often wondered if by knowledge, Maharishi didn't mean Truth. But maybe I've now descended into splitting hairs (-: From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Curtis, what grabbed my attention the most was your comment about knowledge and nice internal feeling. Don't know why this comes to mind, but here it is: some women report having a REALLY nice internal feeling when their newborn is placed in their arms for the first time. Probably the result of a heck of a lot of oxytocin being released! But they also report feeling a most profound love. And I think love is the result of the deepest knowledge of anyone or anything. And I think that has the greatest value for human life, the living of that. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging and weaving going on with movement claims where if one claim is seen as not accurate the target is shifted, like flying becomes the much less measurable world peace. So we have claims about mental development and how the growth of consciousness expands and since that is the container of knowledge our knowledge is somehow improved. (exactly how it does is not spelled out.) In the end you have people saying stuff like they feel more wholeness, or unboundedness or purity,bliss, or simplicity, or any other of a list of vague puffy words that, although poetic, don't really describe more than a nice feeling inside. And we forget that originally the claim was about knowledge and not just a nice internal feeling. What I am saying is that I don't believe that this connection of the expansion of consciousness feeling has proven to have any affect at all on people's knowledge in any way that seems to matter or is detectible outside their own self satisfied feeling about themselves. Same for Maharishi. He seemed like a super ambitious guy and an empire builder who made his share of mistakes like any other super ambitious guy. I don't see anything in what I heard him say after a decade and a half of listening to every tape of him talking I possibly could, that couldn't be replicated by anyone who was a good speaker and versed in the Hinduism he believed in. If anything he was a bit of an intellectual slacker by never mastering the all important Vedic language of Sanskrit while claiming that his mental state was so refined he didn't need to do the work that mastery would take. He was more of a business man dabbling in just enough spirituality to keep us entertained on courses. But once I started reading the books for myself I realized how thin his presentation of the breadth of the Vedic literature really was. He was a Reader's Digest Vedic guru pitching a superficial self congratulatory version of the Vedas. I heard this complaint from more than one Sanskrit scholar in the movement BTW. I also had an interesting exchange with Vernon Katz in Yugoslavia where he knowingly told me that Maharishi was quite the optimist about his teaching. I know he loves Maharishi but I am quite sure he saw through more of Maharishi's intellectual pretensions and failings than most. So what is the evidence that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness? I don't have any. It seems like a cool idea that just didn't see to pan out. And with the movement functioning on the level it does intellectually, when I listen to movement leaders like Raja Dude and Hagelin,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
The first one was okay. I thought the vision of the dystopian future was a bit off and typical Hollywood. I tried to watch the second one which is now available on Netflix and turned it off after about 15 minutes. I thought it was pretty bad and even MORE Hollywood. Like you, I won't bother with the third. Girl with the Dragon Tattoo it's not. ;-) I prefer instead to find the little gems that are out there. I highly recommend Metro Manila which a film about a farmer who moves his family to the city to survive and the struggles he encounters. It's not a documentary but a well done thriller narrative. It's on Netflix. As for Hollywood, there are small films that members of the crews for the blockbusters do in between that have good and compelling story lines and production. Big movies are mostly mechanical beasts these days with little art in them. I also like the found footage movies as that conceit allows for some interesting ideas and it's interesting to see what the younger generation does with it. I guess I'm just not a Star Magazine movie goer. :-D On 11/17/2014 05:07 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I enjoyed the first one. The second one deteriorated terribly, IMO. Don't intend to see the third. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. /* */ /* */Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. /* */ /* */Here's another hint: It's not a he. /* */ /* */http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj/* I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
I watch a lot of Brit TV on Netflix and Hulu+. One thing is the actors look like real people and not like fashion models. My favorite was Utopia and HBO is redoing it with David Fincher in charge. American TV due to commercials has hour long shows as 44 minutes or less and written in 6 acts. You may notice that they build to a high point in the storyline right before an ad break. With people switching to streaming sites like Hulu which is owned by Comcast, FOX and ABC are finding people won't even watch there if they put too long of ad breaks in them. Comcast, who owns NBC, seems to know that best and has shorter breaks in their shows and even skips breaks sometimes. Ads on streaming are NOT going to be the big cash cow network TV has been. On 11/17/2014 06:54 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If Brit tv is anything like American where they edit the movie to allow much more advertising in, they wind up cutting a lot out - well worth the effort to get or rent the DVD and check out the extras, well worth it. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 8:12 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My daughter raved about the books and the original movie, so I watched the first film - loved it. Then I read the books and was glad I did, all three are well worth reading and of course better than the films, tho the movies are true to the spirit of the books. The scene in the first film of Peta throwing Katness the bread is handled differently in the books, or rather the scene is not clear in the film - it is the pivotal scene in the books and really defines the future relationship between the two characters. But over all a great series - the extras on the DVD are pretty interesting, especially the interviews with Donald Southerland (and the fact that most of the first movie was filmed in North Carolina) That bread throwing scene was enigmatic at first but as they repeated it in the movie you saw how it meant different things to them. Surprisingly enjoyable all told, which is always nice when it happens. Nothing like low expectations being confounded! I tape a lot of stuff off the TV and can generally tell if it's going to be worth the effort within minutes. I shall check out the sequel, maybe it's on TV this weekend... *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 4:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. /* */ /* */Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. /* */ /* */Here's another hint: It's not a he. /* */ /* */http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj/* I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
On 11/17/2014 9:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bravo for addiction. /It's certainly a better addiction than Niel Young's coffee addiction that you tweeted about. Go figure./ *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 10:38 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld Nothing gets between *Jerry Seinfeld* and his mantra. A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation. We’re told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for about a half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a devotee of the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily meditation that he has it built into his shooting schedules. Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at commercial shoot http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 image http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at comme... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. View on www.nydailynews.com http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Too many to mention, are you trying to crash the internet? Here's a fave: Marshy could speak any language he wanted to. Apparently to learn them he would wait until he arrived in a country, and then - as he's getting off the plane - he'd be heard mumbling a few things and by the time he got to passport control he'd be fluent! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
So it's an opera? Or is it a ballet? Even in those the music is supposed to support the story. Maybe it would have been cheaper to just film a concert with Hans Wimmer waving a baton. I wonder if he can even conduct. My neighbor used to work for him so may have to ask him when he comes back into town. On 11/17/2014 02:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */I've seen the first two films, and like you was more than a little surprised at how good they were. I'm looking forward to Mockingjay./* On the subject of movies, apparently cinemas are having to put this sign up for people queueing to see Interstellar: View image on Twitter *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 10:51 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. /* */ /* */Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. /* */ /* */Here's another hint: It's not a he. /* */ /* */http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj/* I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Thanks for keeping the topic going and now expanding it into another area. It is another interest of mine. One of the questions I have about meditaton and the pleasure states they invoke is whether or not it subverts the natural reward system our brains have for achieving something like drugs do. So if you can feel the same way without the hassle of having a baby, why not? Or how about getting the feeling I get when I have a great show without ever leaving the house? This is why I am dubious about drug highs as well as meditation highs. I used to be so addicted to the feelings I got in program and now I am chasing the same good feeling through my artistic life and teaching. I know what works for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what grabbed my attention the most was your comment about knowledge and nice internal feeling. Don't know why this comes to mind, but here it is: some women report having a REALLY nice internal feeling when their newborn is placed in their arms for the first time. Probably the result of a heck of a lot of oxytocin being released! But they also report feeling a most profound love. And I think love is the result of the deepest knowledge of anyone or anything. And I think that has the greatest value for human life, the living of that. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging and weaving going on with movement claims where if one claim is seen as not accurate the target is shifted, like flying becomes the much less measurable world peace. So we have claims about mental development and how the growth of consciousness expands and since that is the container of knowledge our knowledge is somehow improved. (exactly how it does is not spelled out.) In the end you have people saying stuff like they feel more wholeness, or unboundedness or purity,bliss, or simplicity, or any other of a list of vague puffy words that, although poetic, don't really describe more than a nice feeling inside. And we forget that originally the claim was about knowledge and not just a nice internal feeling. What I am saying is that I don't believe that this connection of the expansion of consciousness feeling has proven to have any affect at all on people's knowledge in any way that seems to matter or is detectible outside their own self satisfied feeling about themselves. Same for Maharishi. He seemed like a super ambitious guy and an empire builder who made his share of mistakes like any other super ambitious guy. I don't see anything in what I heard him say after a decade and a half of listening to every tape of him talking I possibly could, that couldn't be replicated by anyone who was a good speaker and versed in the Hinduism he believed in. If anything he was a bit of an intellectual slacker by never mastering the all important Vedic language of Sanskrit while claiming that his mental state was so refined he didn't need to do the work that mastery would take. He was more of a business man dabbling in just enough spirituality to keep us entertained on courses. But once I started reading the books for myself I realized how thin his presentation of the breadth of the Vedic literature really
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. /The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep./ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? /The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: // // //When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple!/ Anyone had a similar experience? /Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
Richard, my cell phone is 10 years old. I think I need a new one. Any
suggestions?
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Bravo for addiction.
It's certainly a better addiction than Niel Young's coffee addiction that you
tweeted about. Go figure.
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:38 AM
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Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra.
A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when
Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation.
We’re told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for
about a half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a
devotee of the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily
meditation that he has it built into his shooting schedules. Seinfeld caught
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watch a lot of Brit TV on Netflix and Hulu+. One thing is the actors look like real people and not like fashion models. My favorite was Utopia and HBO is redoing it with David Fincher in charge. Dang I missed the second series of Utopia due to being on holiday when it started. Shall put it on my crimbo list. Did you see The Fall? Grim serial killer hunt, series two has just started over here. Bit pointless if you missed the first but it's very well made and decidedly disturbing. I remembered watching a US show called Flashforward a few years back, that was great. One of the real US import triumphs. The entire human race blacks out for 2 minutes ad has a vision of what they will be doing in 6 months time. Quality sci-fi, got any more like that over there? American TV due to commercials has hour long shows as 44 minutes or less and written in 6 acts. You may notice that they build to a high point in the storyline right before an ad break. With people switching to streaming sites like Hulu which is owned by Comcast, FOX and ABC are finding people won't even watch there if they put too long of ad breaks in them. Comcast, who owns NBC, seems to know that best and has shorter breaks in their shows and even skips breaks sometimes. Ads on streaming are NOT going to be the big cash cow network TV has been. On 11/17/2014 06:54 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: If Brit tv is anything like American where they edit the movie to allow much more advertising in, they wind up cutting a lot out - well worth the effort to get or rent the DVD and check out the extras, well worth it. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : My daughter raved about the books and the original movie, so I watched the first film - loved it. Then I read the books and was glad I did, all three are well worth reading and of course better than the films, tho the movies are true to the spirit of the books. The scene in the first film of Peta throwing Katness the bread is handled differently in the books, or rather the scene is not clear in the film - it is the pivotal scene in the books and really defines the future relationship between the two characters. But over all a great series - the extras on the DVD are pretty interesting, especially the interviews with Donald Southerland (and the fact that most of the first movie was filmed in North Carolina) That bread throwing scene was enigmatic at first but as they repeated it in the movie you saw how it meant different things to them. Surprisingly enjoyable all told, which is always nice when it happens. Nothing like low expectations being confounded! I tape a lot of stuff off the TV and can generally tell if it's going to be worth the effort within minutes. I shall check out the sequel, maybe it's on TV this weekend... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Curtis, what I'm experiencing these days is that feeling good has taken on a new meaning. It might not be comfy or cozy, but it's very alive, very in the moment. As that takes over, something else is guiding my actions. And it's definitely not the urge to just feel good. Hey, I think it's just life force...maybe what Maharishi called dharma. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Thanks for keeping the topic going and now expanding it into another area. It is another interest of mine. One of the questions I have about meditaton and the pleasure states they invoke is whether or not it subverts the natural reward system our brains have for achieving something like drugs do. So if you can feel the same way without the hassle of having a baby, why not? Or how about getting the feeling I get when I have a great show without ever leaving the house? This is why I am dubious about drug highs as well as meditation highs. I used to be so addicted to the feelings I got in program and now I am chasing the same good feeling through my artistic life and teaching. I know what works for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what grabbed my attention the most was your comment about knowledge and nice internal feeling. Don't know why this comes to mind, but here it is: some women report having a REALLY nice internal feeling when their newborn is placed in their arms for the first time. Probably the result of a heck of a lot of oxytocin being released! But they also report feeling a most profound love. And I think love is the result of the deepest knowledge of anyone or anything. And I think that has the greatest value for human life, the living of that. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging and weaving going on with movement claims where if one claim is seen as not accurate the target is shifted, like flying becomes the much less measurable world peace. So we have claims about mental development and how the growth of consciousness expands and since that is the container of knowledge our knowledge is somehow improved. (exactly how it does is not spelled out.) In the end you have people saying stuff like they feel more wholeness, or unboundedness or purity,bliss, or simplicity, or any other of a list of vague puffy words that, although poetic, don't really describe more than a nice feeling inside. And we forget that originally the claim was about knowledge and not just a nice internal feeling. What I am saying is that I don't believe that this connection of the expansion of consciousness feeling has proven to have any affect at all on people's knowledge in any way that seems to matter or is detectible outside their own self satisfied feeling about themselves. Same for Maharishi. He seemed like a super ambitious guy and an empire builder who made his share of mistakes like any other super ambitious guy. I don't see anything in what I heard him say after a decade and a half of listening to every tape of him talking I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watch a lot of Brit TV on Netflix andHulu+. One thing is the actors look like real people and not likefashion models. My favorite was Utopia and HBO is redoing itwith David Fincher in charge. Dang I missed the second series of Utopia due to being on holiday when it started. Shall put it on my crimbo list. It was good. Did you see The Fall? Grim serial killer hunt, series two has just started over here. Bit pointless if you missed the first but it's very well made and decidedly disturbing. As you say, pointless without having seen the first one. Gillian Anderson is good in it, but to be honest I liked her role in Hannibal better and hope she'll still be dropping in to the next season. I remembered watching a US show called Flashforward a few years back, that was great. One of the real US import triumphs. The entire human race blacks out for 2 minutes ad has a vision of what they will be doing in 6 months time. Quality sci-fi, got any more like that over there? Yeah, I liked Flashforward, too, and wish it hadn't been canceled.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed: 1. Obsess. Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted into a mindset. 1/3 of America was roused by the word ebola enough to have, say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives. And the other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue. See? If aliens land on the White House lawn, are you kidding me, Barry? The sheer amount of media tonnage would make you, force you, absolutely cram you with everyone's opinions about the event. There is zero way your nervous system could avoid the prongs, the triggerings and conclusions of everyone else, and perforce, you'd be a victim of a flood of thoughts about the aliens. And flood of thoughts means IT CHANGES YOU. No way you could avoid, say, having a thought about aliens EVERY FIVE MINUTES. It would be the first issue of everyone upon awakening in the morning. 2. Question. There'd be no human agenda that was not obviously impacted. From wars all the way down to do-I-ask-her-to-marry-me would be revised in light of a landing. If aliens land, I don't ask if I should marry, I ask if there will be a world tomorrow in which one might then marry. If aliens lands, I don't just keep bombing another county without asking, Hmm, do the aliens have tech that could stomp us and what would they think about our warfare? And so forth for all agendas. Some agendas especially, but all agendas at least to some degree. 3. Doubt. Virtually every value would be re-examined in light of the landing. Am I my brother's keeper? Does God exist? What's the meaning of life? -- all these issues are now followed by What do the aliens have to say about this? 4. Turmoil. It would be hard to underestimate the amount of carnage that would happen almost instantly given the present cultures on Earth. Every leader's status would now be needing an aliens statement, and with 1/3 of every population having a religious addiction, there's going to be throngs outside of every leader's office clamoring for decisions that favor their interpretations of the aliens, and if there's dissonance, there will be blood. If you say aliens don't worship Allah, I keel you. If aliens are okay with homos, kill the aliens. Should I go to work today at the nuke-bomb-making-plant? Etc. 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. Look at Nabs going nutzoid for crop circles -- there's 1/3 of every population with similar minds -- hair triggered and half-cocked -- ready to do every single thing imaginable to the aliens. From I want to have sex with you to whole segments arming themselves to mass demonstrations to over-night-cults. The crazies along would exhaust global clarity with emotional obfuscations. Enough? Do I have to do more numbers to show that you have not considered an alien landing hardly at all? YOU WOULD BE CHANGED. You latched onto two gurus already who were offering panaceas, and you'd want aliens to clean up the the world too. How can you deny who you have been? And you bonk everyone here for slight infractions -- that is, you're obsessed with pointing out how falsely others are thinking about you and existence in general -- but noo, you wouldn't be changed? Bull. Fucking. Shit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is purposefully, mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil. So you're concerned that the guy who
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I can relate to that, well said. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what I'm experiencing these days is that feeling good has taken on a new meaning. It might not be comfy or cozy, but it's very alive, very in the moment. As that takes over, something else is guiding my actions. And it's definitely not the urge to just feel good. Hey, I think it's just life force...maybe what Maharishi called dharma. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Thanks for keeping the topic going and now expanding it into another area. It is another interest of mine. One of the questions I have about meditaton and the pleasure states they invoke is whether or not it subverts the natural reward system our brains have for achieving something like drugs do. So if you can feel the same way without the hassle of having a baby, why not? Or how about getting the feeling I get when I have a great show without ever leaving the house? This is why I am dubious about drug highs as well as meditation highs. I used to be so addicted to the feelings I got in program and now I am chasing the same good feeling through my artistic life and teaching. I know what works for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what grabbed my attention the most was your comment about knowledge and nice internal feeling. Don't know why this comes to mind, but here it is: some women report having a REALLY nice internal feeling when their newborn is placed in their arms for the first time. Probably the result of a heck of a lot of oxytocin being released! But they also report feeling a most profound love. And I think love is the result of the deepest knowledge of anyone or anything. And I think that has the greatest value for human life, the living of that. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging and weaving going on with movement claims where if one claim is seen as not accurate the target is shifted, like flying becomes the much less measurable world peace. So we have claims about mental development and how the growth of consciousness expands and since that is the container of knowledge our knowledge is somehow improved. (exactly how it does is not spelled out.) In the end you have people saying stuff like they feel more wholeness, or unboundedness or purity,bliss, or simplicity, or any other of a list of vague puffy words that, although poetic, don't really describe more than a nice feeling inside. And we forget that originally the claim was about knowledge and not just a nice internal feeling. What I am saying is that I don't believe that this connection of the expansion of consciousness feeling has proven to have any affect at all on people's knowledge in any way that seems to matter or is detectible outside their own self satisfied feeling about themselves. Same for Maharishi. He seemed like a super ambitious guy and an empire builder who made his share of mistakes like any other super ambitious guy. I don't see
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Now those are good ones for sure - never had heard of the one about the crystal
necklace!
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Heard stories of the Maharishi miracles of being in two places at once,
telling the driver to do high speeds and ignore red lights to get to the
airport, taking back by magic a crystal necklace from what's-her-name when
she refused to return it to him, and heard of MMY touching a guy's brain-tumor
head and saying let them do anything but don't let them cut -- which then
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Well so far that takes the cake - what nonsense! I have never heard that one
either.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Too many to mention, are you trying to crash the internet?
Here's a fave: Marshy could speak any language he wanted to. Apparently to
learn them he would wait until he arrived in a country, and then - as he's
getting off the plane - he'd be heard mumbling a few things and by the time he
got to passport control he'd be fluent!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so:
What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard?
This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of
the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment
or yogic flying brings world peace)
I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM
facilities and from TM old timers.
Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are
meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but
who knows.
Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your
hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if
your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower
spine.
I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person
and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different
people.
How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Curtis, driving back from lunch, I found myself wondering if there is any connection between this life force and knowledge and consciousness. It's been such an interesting experience for me because, evidence to the contrary here, since feeling so connected to life force, I definitely am less analytical. At the same time, there seems to be a knowingness guiding my speech and actions and choices. But it is not a left brain situation at all. It seems to be more whole body if that makes sense. And consciousness itself feels more embodied. During the drive I concluded that there are so many ways that people can get to this place of knowingness that's whole body. Like you with your music. Some, including me, find it in nature. Anyway, thanks for the exchange. I can relate to that, well said. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what I'm experiencing these days is that feeling good has taken on a new meaning. It might not be comfy or cozy, but it's very alive, very in the moment. As that takes over, something else is guiding my actions. And it's definitely not the urge to just feel good. Hey, I think it's just life force...maybe what Maharishi called dharma. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Thanks for keeping the topic going and now expanding it into another area. It is another interest of mine. One of the questions I have about meditaton and the pleasure states they invoke is whether or not it subverts the natural reward system our brains have for achieving something like drugs do. So if you can feel the same way without the hassle of having a baby, why not? Or how about getting the feeling I get when I have a great show without ever leaving the house? This is why I am dubious about drug highs as well as meditation highs. I used to be so addicted to the feelings I got in program and now I am chasing the same good feeling through my artistic life and teaching. I know what works for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what grabbed my attention the most was your comment about knowledge and nice internal feeling. Don't know why this comes to mind, but here it is: some women report having a REALLY nice internal feeling when their newborn is placed in their arms for the first time. Probably the result of a heck of a lot of oxytocin being released! But they also report feeling a most profound love. And I think love is the result of the deepest knowledge of anyone or anything. And I think that has the greatest value for human life, the living of that. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging and weaving going on with movement claims where if one claim is seen as not accurate the target is shifted, like flying becomes the much less measurable world peace. So we have claims about mental development and how the growth of consciousness expands and since that is the container of knowledge our knowledge is somehow improved. (exactly how it does is not spelled out.) In the end you have
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
The movement needed the vague rumors and innuendos of Mahrishi's magical powers to sell the idea of his specialness, One of the most persistent myths was that his needing little sleep was unique thing. I just read an article about the sleeping habits of high performing executives who run big companies. Guess what, they don't sleep much. They have a lot of energy, have tons of ambition and are just interested in sleeping enough to recharge for the next round of world domination. Are we really gunna say that buttholes like Donald Trump are living a higher state, or do we have to admit that Maharishi much touted lack of sleep is what lots of people get away with and it seems to go along with ambition and drive. Maharishi had plenty of both. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Now those are good ones for sure - never had heard of the one about the crystal necklace! From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor Heard stories of the Maharishi miracles of being in two places at once, telling the driver to do high speeds and ignore red lights to get to the airport, taking back by magic a crystal necklace from what's-her-name when she refused to return it to him, and heard of MMY touching a guy's brain-tumor head and saying let them do anything but don't let them cut -- which then healed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I believe that a lot of this sense of fulfillment in our lives is tied to our age. I have read studies about how satisfaction and happiness in life increases with age and I have certainly found that to be true. I have also gotten way better at what to focus on and what to ignore to keep my head on straight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, driving back from lunch, I found myself wondering if there is any connection between this life force and knowledge and consciousness. It's been such an interesting experience for me because, evidence to the contrary here, since feeling so connected to life force, I definitely am less analytical. At the same time, there seems to be a knowingness guiding my speech and actions and choices. But it is not a left brain situation at all. It seems to be more whole body if that makes sense. And consciousness itself feels more embodied. During the drive I concluded that there are so many ways that people can get to this place of knowingness that's whole body. Like you with your music. Some, including me, find it in nature. Anyway, thanks for the exchange. I can relate to that, well said. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what I'm experiencing these days is that feeling good has taken on a new meaning. It might not be comfy or cozy, but it's very alive, very in the moment. As that takes over, something else is guiding my actions. And it's definitely not the urge to just feel good. Hey, I think it's just life force...maybe what Maharishi called dharma. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Thanks for keeping the topic going and now expanding it into another area. It is another interest of mine. One of the questions I have about meditaton and the pleasure states they invoke is whether or not it subverts the natural reward system our brains have for achieving something like drugs do. So if you can feel the same way without the hassle of having a baby, why not? Or how about getting the feeling I get when I have a great show without ever leaving the house? This is why I am dubious about drug highs as well as meditation highs. I used to be so addicted to the feelings I got in program and now I am chasing the same good feeling through my artistic life and teaching. I know what works for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, what grabbed my attention the most was your comment about knowledge and nice internal feeling. Don't know why this comes to mind, but here it is: some women report having a REALLY nice internal feeling when their newborn is placed in their arms for the first time. Probably the result of a heck of a lot of oxytocin being released! But they also report feeling a most profound love. And I think love is the result of the deepest knowledge of anyone or anything. And I think that has the greatest value for human life, the living of that. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs I think you are right if we look at the source of the quote. He is interpreting a Rig Vedic verse that says that the gods reside in heaven. Richo akshare parame veyomon. (It has been decades but I think that is how you spell it!) So at its loftiest level in his system he interprets this to mean that the hymns of the Veda are in the absolute which is the religious idea that despite historical evidence to the contrary, the Vedas came along with Man. (And like Christianity's creation myth, fails to account for the 250 million year reign of the dinosaurs!) So he took this religious assertion from his holy books and tried to put it into terms that might sell in the modern world to people who were not Hindu believers. The rest of the connection with how the movement uses this is all Maharishi and is a long way from the phrase itself. He uses it as a selling point to say that his trademarke meditation gives you a special state of mind where your knowledge (understanding and experience by his definition) is perfect or complete or any other one of the superlatives he applied to it like supreme knowledge. It is essentially a religious concept that he tried to make folksy for us to relate to. The intro lecture completes this descending into our common life with claims about how it gives us our full mental potential using the now discredited idea that we only use 10% of our brains and that with TM we will use the rest of it. So we are left to interpret it for ourselves how we personally relate to it all. I think there is a bit of dodging
[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
Re I enjoyed the first one. The second one deteriorated terribly, IMO. Don't intend to see the third: Make take exactly. The first was a harder-hitting dystopian sci-fi film than I'd expected. But the follow-up movie was turgid. I was pleased when it (finally) ended. I like Jennifer Lawrence. She has a sobering effect on screen which serves her well in downbeat movies like Winter's Bone. I do have some career advice for her though: Jenny, dear, please invest in a Polaroid camera and photo album for recording your treasured memories. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I enjoyed the first one. The second one deteriorated terribly, IMO. Don't intend to see the third. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Chances are your answer is wrong, as this article about the difference between our perceptions and reality points out. Here's a hint: He's the highest-grossing-at-the-box-office action star of all time, and is about to set a new record by appearing in the highest-grossing film of the year for the second year in a row. Here's another hint: It's not a he. http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj http://tinyurl.com/nb93ebj I saw The Hunger Games the other day, rather enjoyed it actually which surprised me as it sounded like a bit of a teen movie but there was more too it than I expected. And it could have been really gory just for the sake of it but it was quite touching. I must be turning into an old softie. JL was really good in the lead role. And I liked the bit with the hornets. Might even treat myself to the sequel, I think a bit of development in how the society works and got where it was might make it an even better film.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Even setting aside the scenario where aliens land on the White House lawn I'm sure many people would find it deeply disturbing if we knew for sure there was intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. I find it quite disorienting sometimes just gazing into an animal's eyes (a dog/monkey/cow) trying to imagine myself into its subjective worldview. But at least animals don't have language and so don't think in any sense corresponding to our mental life. An advanced civilization of aliens that had an intellectual culture but in a radically different way to us could induce in me an existential crisis that would have me spinning off into the Void. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed: 1. Obsess. Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted into a mindset. 1/3 of America was roused by the word ebola enough to have, say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives. And the other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue. See? If aliens land on the White House lawn, are you kidding me, Barry? The sheer amount of media tonnage would make you, force you, absolutely cram you with everyone's opinions about the event. There is zero way your nervous system could avoid the prongs, the triggerings and conclusions of everyone else, and perforce, you'd be a victim of a flood of thoughts about the aliens. And flood of thoughts means IT CHANGES YOU. No way you could avoid, say, having a thought about aliens EVERY FIVE MINUTES. It would be the first issue of everyone upon awakening in the morning. 2. Question. There'd be no human agenda that was not obviously impacted. From wars all the way down to do-I-ask-her-to-marry-me would be revised in light of a landing. If aliens land, I don't ask if I should marry, I ask if there will be a world tomorrow in which one might then marry. If aliens lands, I don't just keep bombing another county without asking, Hmm, do the aliens have tech that could stomp us and what would they think about our warfare? And so forth for all agendas. Some agendas especially, but all agendas at least to some degree. 3. Doubt. Virtually every value would be re-examined in light of the landing. Am I my brother's keeper? Does God exist? What's the meaning of life? -- all these issues are now followed by What do the aliens have to say about this? 4. Turmoil. It would be hard to underestimate the amount of carnage that would happen almost instantly given the present cultures on Earth. Every leader's status would now be needing an aliens statement, and with 1/3 of every population having a religious addiction, there's going to be throngs outside of every leader's office clamoring for decisions that favor their interpretations of the aliens, and if there's dissonance, there will be blood. If you say aliens don't worship Allah, I keel you. If aliens are okay with homos, kill the aliens. Should I go to work today at the nuke-bomb-making-plant? Etc. 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. Look at Nabs going nutzoid for crop circles -- there's 1/3 of every population with similar minds -- hair triggered and half-cocked -- ready to do every single thing imaginable to the aliens. From I want to have sex with you to whole segments arming themselves to mass demonstrations to over-night-cults. The crazies along would exhaust global clarity with emotional obfuscations. Enough? Do I have to do more numbers to show that you have not considered an alien landing hardly at all? YOU WOULD
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like in a booth in Dennys) where no setup was possible. What it was that happened may still elude me, but it happened. What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a times a month for 14 years. After the first rush, it's pretty ho-hum stuff. But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed: 1. Obsess. Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted into a mindset. 1/3 of America was roused by the word ebola enough to have, say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives. And the other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue. None of the people I'd be interested in knowing or interfacing with would obsess. That would free me to deal with people with stronger minds. :-) See? If aliens land on the White House lawn, are you kidding me, Barry? The sheer amount of media tonnage would make you, force you, absolutely cram you with everyone's opinions about the event. There is zero way your nervous system could avoid the prongs, the triggerings and conclusions of everyone else, and perforce, you'd be a victim of a flood of thoughts about the aliens. Uh, Edg. You know that little button that is usually in the upper right or left of your computer or TV, the one that says, OFF. It's possible to push it. :-) And flood of thoughts means IT CHANGES YOU. No, it changes YOU. *I* don't react to everyone around me thinking about a certain subject by having streams of obsessive thoughts about the same subject. YOU DO. From my point of view, only people with weak minds and no self control and no ability to practice mindfulness do that. No way you could avoid, say, having a thought about aliens EVERY FIVE MINUTES. It would be the first issue of everyone upon awakening in the morning. You clearly have never practiced mindfulness. 2. Question. There'd be no human agenda that was not obviously impacted. From wars all the way down to do-I-ask-her-to-marry-me would be revised in light of a landing. One word: WHY? What does what these little bug-eyed monsters think about anything MATTER? Why should their presence or non-presence inspire/threaten humans to do anything different than they ever have, unless the aliens actually did threaten them, and had the ability to follow through. I doubt seriously if there would be even one fewer war. If aliens land, I don't ask if I should marry, I ask if there will be a world tomorrow in which one might then marry. If aliens lands, I don't just keep bombing another county without asking, Hmm, do the aliens have tech that could stomp us and what would they think about our warfare? We must agree to disagree. And so forth for all agendas. Some agendas especially, but all agendas at least to some degree. 3. Doubt. Virtually every value would be re-examined in light of the landing. Am I my brother's keeper? Does God exist? What's the meaning of life? -- all these issues are now followed
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
That's how he had the time and energy to get those gals to help him check his
mail in the wee hours of the night.
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
The movement needed the vague rumors and innuendos of Mahrishi's magical
powers to sell the idea of his specialness, One of the most persistent myths
was that his needing little sleep was unique thing. I just read an article
about the sleeping habits of high performing executives who run big companies.
Guess what, they don't sleep much. They have a lot of energy, have tons of
ambition and are just interested in sleeping enough to recharge for the next
round of world domination.
Are we really gunna say that buttholes like Donald Trump are living a higher
state, or do we have to admit that Maharishi much touted lack of sleep is what
lots of people get away with and it seems to go along with ambition and drive.
Maharishi had plenty of both.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Now those are good ones for sure - never had heard of the one about the crystal
necklace!
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Heard stories of the Maharishi miracles of being in two places at once,
telling the driver to do high speeds and ignore red lights to get to the
airport, taking back by magic a crystal necklace from what's-her-name when
she refused to return it to him, and heard of MMY touching a guy's brain-tumor
head and saying let them do anything but don't let them cut -- which then
healed.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
On 11/17/2014 09:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watch a lot of Brit TV on Netflix and Hulu+. One thing is the actors look like real people and not like fashion models. My favorite was Utopia and HBO is redoing it with David Fincher in charge. Dang I missed the second series of Utopia due to being on holiday when it started. Shall put it on my crimbo list. It was pretty good and involved a back story to tell how this all came about. The first episode took place in the 1970s so instead of a scope aspect ration they had a 4:3 TV aspect ratio for that episode. Unfortunately there will be no Bluray release of season two. I have the season one Bluray which is All Regions so they didn't have to make different ones for each regions. But it won't play on my Sony players but does on my Samsung. Wonder what Sony has against the All Regions option? Channel 4 said the season one sales did not justify a season two Bluray release. Dennis Kelly says he likes HBO's plans for the series though. But what else would he says especially if they gave him a big suitcase of money. :-D Did you see The Fall? Grim serial killer hunt, series two has just started over here. Bit pointless if you missed the first but it's very well made and decidedly disturbing. Saw The Fall season one on Netflix and I suspect season two will follow there not long after it plays in the UK. I liked it. Netflix just added season 3 of the Swedish Wallander so watched episode one last night. I remembered watching a US show called Flashforward a few years back, that was great. One of the real US import triumphs. The entire human race blacks out for 2 minutes ad has a vision of what they will be doing in 6 months time. Quality sci-fi, got any more like that over there? Quality? In the US? It's all about money. Syfy doesn't have much this season. Z Nation is a cult series done by the kings of schlock, Asylum. Since Syfy hasn't done episodes streaming a month later for it I'm betting Netflix scooped up the rights and it will show a month after the season completes (and a season two has already been ordered). Netflix did that with Continuum. I've been watching Constantine on NBC but then I like occult themed series. As networks lose more money I'm waiting for found footage series to appear which might be far better than the Hollywood stuff. One could even call the show Found Footage. Each episode could be a different set of found footage.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like in a booth in Dennys) where no setup was possible. What it was that happened may still elude me, but it happened. What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a times a month for 14 years. After the first rush, it's pretty ho-hum stuff. But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed: 1. Obsess. Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted into a mindset. 1/3 of America was roused by the word ebola enough to have, say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives. And the other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue. None of the people I'd be interested in knowing or interfacing with would obsess. That would free me to deal with people with stronger minds. :-) See? If aliens land on the White House lawn, are you kidding me, Barry? The sheer amount of media tonnage would make you, force you, absolutely cram you with everyone's opinions about the event. There is zero way your nervous system could avoid the prongs, the triggerings and conclusions of everyone else, and perforce, you'd be a victim of a flood of thoughts about the aliens. Uh, Edg. You know that little button that is usually in the upper right or left of your computer or TV, the
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. You're right. I'd bet there would be an increase in mental illness if we did contact aliens. As any advanced civilization capable of monitoring us would be aware of our fragile psyches I think it is likely that that is why they haven't introduced themselves. They're waiting for us to fully mature. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like in a booth in Dennys) where no setup was possible. What it was that happened may still elude me, but it happened. What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a times a month for 14 years. After the first rush, it's pretty ho-hum stuff. But here's what I think REAL HUMANS would do if aliens landed: 1. Obsess. Think how easily great hunks of various populations can be shifted into a mindset. 1/3 of America was roused by the word ebola enough to have, say, dozens of thoughts per day about what it meant to their lives. And the other 2/3rds who were immune to the mental stampede yet still had to have had thoughts about ebola's characteristics just in order to be on top of the issue. None of the people I'd be
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 09:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I watch a lot of Brit TV on Netflix and Hulu+. One thing is the actors look like real people and not like fashion models. My favorite was Utopia and HBO is redoing it with David Fincher in charge. Dang I missed the second series of Utopia due to being on holiday when it started. Shall put it on my crimbo list. It was pretty good and involved a back story to tell how this all came about. The first episode took place in the 1970s so instead of a scope aspect ration they had a 4:3 TV aspect ratio for that episode. I remember there was a bit of controversy about that first episode, it involved the death of Airey Neave (?), who was murdered by the IRA, but incorporated him into the Utopia plot. The Daily Mail tried to whip up some hysteria anyway. Unfortunately there will be no Bluray release of season two. I have the season one Bluray which is All Regions so they didn't have to make different ones for each regions. But it won't play on my Sony players but does on my Samsung. Wonder what Sony has against the All Regions option? Channel 4 said the season one sales did not justify a season two Bluray release. I've never even seen a Bluray so I don;t know what I'm missing, the DVD is on Amazon though so I'll be dropping hints amongst the fambly. Dennis Kelly says he likes HBO's plans for the series though. But what else would he says especially if they gave him a big suitcase of money. :-D Did you see The Fall? Grim serial killer hunt, series two has just started over here. Bit pointless if you missed the first but it's very well made and decidedly disturbing. Saw The Fall season one on Netflix and I suspect season two will follow there not long after it plays in the UK. I liked it. Netflix just added season 3 of the Swedish Wallander so watched episode one last night. Then I won't spoil it for you. But I always loved Wallander, the books as well. And his non-Wallander books are good, especially the African ones. I remembered watching a US show called Flashforward a few years back, that was great. One of the real US import triumphs. The entire human race blacks out for 2 minutes ad has a vision of what they will be doing in 6 months time. Quality sci-fi, got any more like that over there? Quality? In the US? It's all about money. Syfy doesn't have much this season. Z Nation is a cult series done by the kings of schlock, Asylum. Since Syfy hasn't done episodes streaming a month later for it I'm betting Netflix scooped up the rights and it will show a month after the season completes (and a season two has already been ordered). Netflix did that with Continuum. I've been watching Constantine on NBC but then I like occult themed series. As networks lose more money I'm waiting for found footage series to appear which might be far better than the Hollywood stuff. One could even call the show Found Footage. Each episode could be a different set of found footage. Shall keep my eyes peeled for Constantine then. The more channels we get on TV the more old shows I get to see. Some of them are great. I'm waiting for Survivors which was my favourite post-apocalypse series from the 70's. A plague wipes out 99% of humanity and the few still alive try to rebuild some sort of life amid the ruins. Excellent stuff and the BBC did a re-imagining a few years ago, which is well worth checking out. We still do quality I'm happy to say. For now...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
His success is obviously nothing compared to MJ's :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Bravo for addiction. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation. We’re told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for about a half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a devotee of the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily meditation that he has it built into his shooting schedules. Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at commercial shoot http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at comme... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. View on www.nydailynews.com http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. I can't believe you think I have any interest in having a conversation with you.
[FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national election through a complicated turn of events. Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during the midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be from the GOP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That's right, they are not in a hurry. If they had landed on the lawn of the White House or created a Crop Circle carved in stone at Piccadilly Circus many would go into shock (not Sal obviously, he would find some Scientific explanation even if only he had heard of it). Basically they choose when they want to be seen as they at will are able to switch into frequenzies making them invisible to most people. They have definately step uped their appearences here and sightings are now in the thousands this year, but according to Mr. Benjamin Creme mass showing by our Space Brothers is not in the cards anytime soon. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like in a booth in Dennys) where no setup was possible. What it was that happened may still elude me, but it happened. What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Seriously, dude. Your idea of a conversation, based on these last couple of
posts, seems to be shouting, YOU'RE WRONG, BECAUSE I SAY SO, AND I'M RIGHT.
Not my idea of what conversation is about.
I *get* it that the sudden appearance of aliens would freak you right out and
leave you obsessing your ass off. Where you're off is in assuming that everyone
is as weak and obsessive as you are, and would react the way you would.
I don't think it would happen. I think it would be a big deal for a small
percentage of the population, for a few years, and then people would get used
to it (just as we Rama students got used to seeing Fred disappear and float
around in the air) and soon nobody would think any more of a little green man
walking down the sidewalk than they do of someone in a foreign costume walking
down the sidewalk today.
That is my honest opinion, based on having been there to watch what happens
when people spend time around the supposedly miraculous. It stays miraculous
for about a month. Then people get over it, and back to their lives. I honestly
believe that's what would happen if aliens arrived.
You yelling, YOU CAN'T *REALLY* BELIEVE THAT, BECAUSE *I* COULDN'T POSSIBLY
BELIEVE THAT is not terribly intelligent, and is not going to make me feel
like discussing anything with you. It's just being a dick.
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I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this
conversation worthwhile.
I can't believe you think I have any interest in having a conversation with
you.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s Sales
Some companies are taking things in their own hands and DO realize the public wants to know so put NO GMO on their labels. If the big companies don't do this they indeed will start losing sales to those who do. And even some of the ramen companies are trying NO MSG products. Plus even some of the candy and baking goods companies have stopped using HFCS. On 11/17/2014 11:51 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: feature_image_template GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s Sales http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ image http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s S... http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ Millions of people are making an impact when it comes to the fight against GMOs. In one of many of the latest boycott’s against companies who use geneticall... View on earthweareone.com http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
If today's headlines are correct he could be running against Jerry Brown. Brown may be old but he even gets high marks from conservatives for bring spending under control. The race could be very interesting. On 11/17/2014 12:24 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national election through a complicated turn of events. Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during the midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be from the GOP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
Re: [FairfieldLife] Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll
Marilyn has been hanging out with the Son of Anarchy now in it's final season. On 11/16/2014 07:46 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This could be a complete shambles - or it could be fantastic. Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll is a planned fantasy-horror film by Marilyn Manson that has been in development since 2004! Directed by Marilyn Manson it stars Marilyn as Lewis Carroll, English model Lily Cole as Alice, Evan Rachel Wood as Alice's alter ego and British actress Tilda Swinton as Lewis Carroll's dream wife (the real Lewis Carroll never married). The trailer is adult and avant-garde. I hope Marilyn gets to finish it. Prepare yourself . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=5
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll
On 11/17/2014 08:33 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : This could be a complete shambles - or it could be fantastic. Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll is a planned fantasy-horror film by Marilyn Manson that has been in development since 2004! Directed by Marilyn Manson it stars Marilyn as Lewis Carroll, English model Lily Cole as Alice, Evan Rachel Wood as Alice's alter ego and British actress Tilda Swinton as Lewis Carroll's dream wife (the real Lewis Carroll never married). The trailer is adult and avant-garde. I hope Marilyn gets to finish it. Prepare yourself . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMAamp;index=5 I think I would give this a wide pass. I can tell it's going to be a loser and I didn't even look at the trailer. Chalk it up to intuition. *So, I just watched about half of that and I have a few observations and a few questions.* *I found myself getting angry watching this. Then I had to ask myself why was I getting angry? And I realized a couple of things. Although this thing is truly horrific and some of the images could stay ingrained your mind for quite some time I have to say, what is the goddamned point? Do we really lack enough horrific events in everyday life that we need to recreate more on a big screen and dole it out to some audience under the guise that this is somehow about Lewis Carroll? That somehow Marilyn Manson, of all people, has an inside track on what animated the man? Marilyn Manson is a freak show. If he feels compelled to spew more ugliness and violence into the world then he needs a reality check. Ugliness and violence are everywhere - in you and in me and in every other sentient being that walks the earth - especially if they are human. A whole lot of the imagery involved dismembered bodies, female bodies and the sex and the blood and the implied and also graphic imagery gives voice to a really twisted vision. There is suggested violence against animals as well. It is not hard to get a rise out of people, if you want to make a viewer squeamish or indignant or sick or horrified it is not hard and it is not art. Sometimes when you see a thing you are also given a visceral impression, a clear indication that it is best not to allow certain images/vibrations/content into your body and brain. This appears to be one of those things. Anybody?* Line on water for me. Didn't give me much of an indication of where he wants to go with this but a movie based on the life of Lewis Carroll could be very compelling. As for horror, I watch movies more horrific than this. There is a saying by tantrics, you never know when death will come and it could come in horrific situations so being prepared for it is a good idea. If you want to watch something truly horrific find the Vice YouTube report on ISIS.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. You're right. I'd bet there would be an increase in mental illness if we did contact aliens. As any advanced civilization capable of monitoring us would be aware of our fragile psyches I think it is likely that that is why they haven't introduced themselves. They're waiting for us to fully mature. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That idea gets seriously proposed a lot. I always think it's a bit of a hopeful way of keeping up interest in what has turned out to be a bad explanation for crop stomping and spy planes. But we can live in hope... Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? On the day Elvis died (no connection I should think) a signal was picked up that exactly matched what we expected an alien civilisation would send, right frequency and modulated. But it was never repeated and so can't be claimed as scientific evidence of anything. It remains an enigma and always will, unless we hear it again... Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal The Wow! signal was a strong narrowband radio signal detected by Jerry R. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while he was working on a SETI project at the Big Ear radio t... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
It would be even more interesting to know who will be President after the
aliens land and Maitreya comes out of the closet or water closet or wherever he
is hiding. How bout it Nappy? Who will Maitreya pick to run the US after he
shows himself?
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
If today's headlines are correct he could be running against Jerry Brown.
Brown may be old but he even gets high marks from conservatives for bring
spending under control. The race could be very interesting.
On 11/17/2014 12:24 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the
presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the
subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could
win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national
election through a complicated turn of events.
Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during
the midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be
from the GOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll
Re: So, I just watched about half of that and I have a few observations and a few questions Well the Alice books are so ingrained in our collective consciousness that it is fair game for any treatment. To turn Carroll's dream story into a nightmare is an obvious move. But, yes, if such imagery disturbs you don't watch it. I picked up on the Marilyn version as I am a fan of Valerie and Her Week of Wonders ( Czech, 1969) so I look out for similar variations - though Marilyn's take is going to be decidedly more in-your-face and bleak (if he ever finishes it). Valerie is another little girl lost in a dream film - heavily influenced by the Alice tales (via the Marquis de Sade) - starring the then 13-year-old Jaroslava Schallerová as Valerie. The film portrays the heroine as living in a disorienting dream, cajoled by priests, vampires, men and women alike, and blends elements of fantasy and horror films. It actually has some charming, poetic moments. The trailer gives a good feel for it . . . don't worry - it won't give you bad dreams like the previous trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR07_yzRFMMamp;index=36amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR07_yzRFMMamp;index=36amp;list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
FW: “Never Entertain Negativity”, This ethos never entertain negativity is a crux of the problem here. This has created a world of psycho-spiritual hurt in our tribe. FW: A Cultural Survey.. Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really bad ethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems is well known for things not being right around money, sex and power. “Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culture which has allowed, coerced, and condoned some really poor and even appalling ethical standards in a group of people. That would be my observation. It is said that change comes from within. There evidently is a lot of movement going on right now in the new TM Movement. I can see a hope for a better TM movement in process, like in changing or even getting rid of this ethos as an administrative policy tool. -Buck FW: Dear friends, ..on a committee, the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee for the Mental Health Alliance here in Fairfield I am working with a sub group of that committee, the Cultural Committee, on one particular area right now. Which is to understand the meaning of phrases that have become a part of our local culture here. There are phrases which mean many things to many here. Some of these meanings may have lead to an erosion in mental health. I have written this group as a smattering of a cross-culture living here to get your understanding of the phrase, Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Thank you, # # The 1980 Pledge. Things in TM did seem to change from about then to become some lot about some theocratic sense of fealty and a lot less as to merit and performance. Is noteworthy that the Saha Nav hymn was extracted up to become a normative organizational code of conduct in an oath then (1980). C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. Quote from Upanishads, which was used in Vedic Atom Pledge (1980) Let us be together, Let us eat together, Let us be vital together, Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life, Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Culture: Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Such that within the culture of TM the TM negativity policy like with the TM Saha Nav Hymn for instance, if someone commits a larceny within an element of the organization then by the teachings it would be entertaining negativity to administratively examine that action in another person or within such element of an organization by others. Or let us say hypothetically that someone commits some abusive harassment within an organizational element using some position of power over someone it would be committing a negativity to raise or consider that situation for the negativity that it should engage. Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be solved by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. Never do we entertain negativity and never do we denounce anyone. Hamstrung? Proly was often best to not say anything living within the culture. Dare anyone call a spade a spade in TM? -Buck # # “..speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally. Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important as daily practice of meditation.” So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Quiz: Who is the biggest action movie star in the world?
On 11/17/2014 12:02 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 09:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I watch a lot of Brit TV on Netflix and Hulu+. One thing is the actors look like real people and not like fashion models. My favorite was Utopia and HBO is redoing it with David Fincher in charge. Dang I missed the second series of Utopia due to being on holiday when it started. Shall put it on my crimbo list. Unfortunately there will be no Bluray release of season two. I have the season one Bluray which is All Regions so they didn't have to make different ones for each regions. But it won't play on my Sony players but does on my Samsung. Wonder what Sony has against the All Regions option? Channel 4 said the season one sales did not justify a season two Bluray release. I've never even seen a Bluray so I don;t know what I'm missing, the DVD is on Amazon though so I'll be dropping hints amongst the fambly. Blurays are HD. There were apparently two released for Utopia. One was only one disc and apparently didn't have the extras and was maybe 720p so all 6 episodes would fit on one disc. The other, which I have, is two discs and has extras including commentary on episode one. It was great to hear the genesis of the show. I'm on my 4th Bluray player. Back in 2007 when there were Black Friday sales for the promising HD-DVD format. I actually went over to Walmart which is 1 mile away to see if I could score one. There was a long line there and I think they only had 6 players to sell to begin with. Amazon offered them for $200 so I ordered one. But then I was at Best Buy right before Christmas and they had a competing sale on Sony Bluray players so I picked one up. In February Warner Brothers declared they were dropping HD-DVD and going Bluray only. That was effectively the end of HD-DVD and then Amazon credited me $100 for buying the HD-DVD player. Probably about 2010 I bought a Samsung Bluray player on sale so I could watch streaming stuff on it like Netflix. The only problem was it lacked Amazon though the app was promised (but never appeared). A couple years later a friend told me I should spend my Sony Rewards points or they take some away at the end of the year and so I got another player with the points I had and it included Amazon. Recently that machine started malfunctioning and it didn't have the most recent apps on it. I checked my points and I was able to get the latest Sony player with my points. It has the newest apps but no wifi which is okay since I have Ethernet for it and that is more reliable than my U-Verse wifi gateway. That player, the S1200, sells for only around $60 US.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That's right, they are not in a hurry. If they had landed on the lawn of the White House or created a Crop Circle carved in stone at Piccadilly Circus many would go into shock (not Sal obviously, he would find some Scientific explanation even if only he had heard of it). Basically they choose when they want to be seen as they at will are able to switch into frequenzies making them invisible to most people. They have definately step uped their appearences here and sightings are now in the thousands this year, but according to Mr. Benjamin Creme mass showing by our Space Brothers is not in the cards anytime soon. Nope, there's no end to the crazy shit. I wonder what the aliens would say if they landed and the first question anyone asked was How do you do crop circles in the dark? They'd get straight back on their ships and take off. I do like the idea of a stone circle carved in Piccadilly circus, that sounds a bit harder than pushing a plastic garden roller round a field. And more convincing to us sceptics because it's difficult and might take a technology we don't currently have. That's what is lacking crop circles which is why they are so easy to explain. So why don't the Space Brothers do a stone carving in London rather than creep around fields in the west country at 2am? If they want us to take them seriously ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
From your long distant vantages you guys may see it all as static but the new TM movement since Maharishi's passing away moves on with what they got. It is functioning much more as a corporation with scientists in the top CEO slots now. You may not want to see this but it is much less of a theocratic autocracy by nature of the incorporation that Maharishi consciously put in place at his death. These guys are administrators and scientists who operate on data and metric, Maharishi did not leave us with a 'guru' but with narrow boards of trustees at the top and corporate order throughout. It is different and a more modern re-organization in flowchart of all its elements in a modern world facing its challenges. It is only interesting to me because my life is here with friends and family in community here. How they behave up there inside TM effects a lot of people here. I am interested in communal welfare. May they behave themselves well and it all goes well for TM in Fairfield-life. JaiGuruDev, -Buck in the Dome turquoiseb wrote : Curtis, I understand your desire to somehow get in touch with the more real personality underneath Buck's faux personality, but I honestly don't think there is one any more. I mean, we're talking about someone who is still so guru-whipped at his age that the only way he can bring himself to question the TMO is to hide behind a faux Stephen Colbert-like fictional persona, albeit one without any of Colbert's intelligence or comic timing. If he can't be honest enough to be Doug Hamilton and express what Doug Hamilton thinks, I have to write him off as not worth the effort. Because *nothing* about Buck interests me in the least. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 3:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good Buck, Your contrived persona is obscuring your POV. I have some sympathy for your concerns with a movement that you have invested so much in and rightfully believe your have a right to direct its course. I see your good intentions, and think I even get some, but not all, of the faux personality you are projecting and a more real one underneath. (Although you have blurred the lines too much for me to be sure about any of that.) But you are coming up against what is for me an intractable problem with Maharishi's premises. In his system: there is only one king and that was him and now he is dead. Although he gave lip service to Guru Dev, he was not constrained by any of that tradition and did whatever he wanted to with his movement. He was fully empowered to make it what it became. The leaders in the movement do not have that freedom. They cannot amend any of the long standing policies of their leader who in the end was not the nicest guy. He was a power broker, a user of people he believed were lower in consciousness than himself, and he had a vocal contempt for the principles of democracy. You are living a contradiction that is poetically expressed in your two personas here. Your natural instinct as an adult is to determine your future with your own values. But you are involved in a dysfunctional group who does not respect your adulthood. People who hate what critics of the movement write here frame it in terms of negativity. But speaking for myself, I write from the perspective of hope. I was once trapped as you are by a system of thought that limited my personal growth as a self determined adult. Freeing myself from that system began the most exciting journey of self discovery of my life. It is MY life. Most of the time I just say, if you dig TM and the movement, good for you, you found something you value. But you are a conflicted soul Buck. And you are trying to change a system that prides itself in not deviating on iota from the MASTER'S wishes, even after death. When I was in TM I embraced it all and I changed my mind to fit Maharishi's mindset. But you are much older than I was and I can't imagine that this is really possible for you. You have become spiritually eclectic far beyond what is permissible in TM as you found out with the badge issues. You are your own man in a group who will never respect you for that. Is there anything more odious than unsolicited advice? Well we both have a bit of history here of offering it to each other anyway so I guess that ship sailed. So here it goes: I think you have grown out of TM and its limited mindset. Good luck. What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really bad ethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems is well known for things not being right around money, sex and power. “Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culture which has
[FairfieldLife] Re: Next President of the USA
I'll have to look at Jerry Brown's jyotish chart to see if he's got enough gas on the tank for a last hurrah.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
John, I think by then the US will be running the major period of Rahu so it
might be good to have a president who's also running Rahu, even if subperiod.
Two negatives canceling each other out and all that...
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning
the presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the
subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could
win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national
election through a complicated turn of events.
Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during the
midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be from
the GOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Maharishi got his deer skin from a deer that died at his feet. Satyanand told
me, they kill'em. we buy'em.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Absurd Rumor
Too many to mention, are you trying to crash the internet?
Here's a fave: Marshy could speak any language he wanted to. Apparently to
learn them he would wait until he arrived in a country, and then - as he's
getting off the plane - he'd be heard mumbling a few things and by the time he
got to passport control he'd be fluent!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so:
What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard?
This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of
the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment
or yogic flying brings world peace)
I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM
facilities and from TM old timers.
Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are
meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but
who knows.
Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your
hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if
your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower
spine.
I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person
and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different
people.
How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Not with a nick name like Moon Beam.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
If today's headlines are correct he could be running against Jerry Brown.
Brown may be old but he even gets high marks from conservatives for bring
spending under control. The race could be very interesting.
On 11/17/2014 12:24 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the
presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the
subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could
win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national
election through a complicated turn of events.
Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during
the midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be
from the GOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Re Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? : In the Wiki link about the possibly alien signal it says: In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory beamed a response from humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter messages, in the direction from which the signal originated: Ye gods! After intelligent aliens wade their way through the messages from 10,000 twits they will definitely conclude that Earth is inhabited by small-minded, grudge-bearing oiks with the attention span of a gnat, and that our planet isn't worth visiting. Instead they should have sent 10,000 FairfieldLife messages to show them how enlightened we are ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. You're right. I'd bet there would be an increase in mental illness if we did contact aliens. As any advanced civilization capable of monitoring us would be aware of our fragile psyches I think it is likely that that is why they haven't introduced themselves. They're waiting for us to fully mature. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That idea gets seriously proposed a lot. I always think it's a bit of a hopeful way of keeping up interest in what has turned out to be a bad explanation for crop stomping and spy planes. But we can live in hope... Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? On the day Elvis died (no connection I should think) a signal was picked up that exactly matched what we expected an alien civilisation would send, right frequency and modulated. But it was never repeated and so can't be claimed as scientific evidence of anything. It remains an enigma and always will, unless we hear it again... Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal The Wow! signal was a strong narrowband radio signal detected by Jerry R. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while he was working on a SETI project at the Big Ear radio t... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly
[FairfieldLife] Frank Caliendo Impressions
Since we're talking about a potential GOP president, listen to this impression of George Dubya. This is hilarious. Best / Funniest impersonator ever stand up Frank Caliendo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GPsFWPez0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GPsFWPez0 Best / Funniest impersonator ever stand up Frank Caliend... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GPsFWPez0 This guy is hilarious as he impersonates on the David Letterman show! View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GPsFWPez0 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] a UFO, of sorts... [1 Attachment]
I don't know what type of bird this is - Got the picture this morning, the bird sitting on an oak tree branch. Looks like a hawk, though larger.
[FairfieldLife] First Free University In South Africa
Maharishi Breakfast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6fGdbH15bI#t=73 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6fGdbH15bI#t=73 Maharishi Breakfast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6fGdbH15bI#t=73 Hi All This is a Private video. Thanks Samuel View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6fGdbH15bI#t=73 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? /The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi./ /As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one./ This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 18-Nov-14 00:15:03 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/15/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 338 messages as of (UTC) 11/17/14 23:51:40 45 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 31 steve.sundur 31 fleetwood_macncheese 28 Share Long sharelong60 26 awoelflebater 25 Michael Jackson mjackson74 21 curtisdeltablues 20 s3raphita 20 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 19 salyavin808 18 nablusoss1008 16 Bhairitu noozguru 8 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 7 dhamiltony2k5 5 jr_esq 4 emptybill 4 Duveyoung 3 wgm4u 2 srijau 2 email4you mikemail4you 1 punditster 1 anartaxius 1 'Rick Archer' rick Posters: 23 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Share, Yes, that's a good observation. However, if you take a look at the sublord of Rahu's placement, Mercury becomes the stronger indicator for the US chart during the time period. In Nadi astrology, Mercury is strongly placed in the 7th house which is in the sign of Gemini. Since Mercury is also the lord of the 10th house, there is a good indication that the period of Rahu will be a prosperous one for the US people and the economy. Using the Parasara system of jyotish, however, the Rahu period is not very bright since it is placed in the 8th house of transformation. We'll just have to wait and see how the karma manifests for the country as a whole at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I think by then the US will be running the major period of Rahu so it might be good to have a president who's also running Rahu, even if subperiod. Two negatives canceling each other out and all that... From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national election through a complicated turn of events. Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during the midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be from the GOP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
[FairfieldLife] TM in the Brazilian civil service
beautiful indication of the rise of Satya Yuga from the domain of Raja Louis Honorato Diogo - Trabalho Legal | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205289156652532pnref=story https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205289156652532pnref=story Honorato Diogo - Trabalho Legal | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205289156652532pnref=story Reportagem da TV do Ministério Publico do Trabalho do Brasil sobre Meditação Transcendental View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205289156652532pnref=story Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Transcending HIV: National Seminar Press Briefing
VIDEO: Transcending HIV: National Seminar and Press Briefing David Lynch Foundation, YouTube / October 30, 2014 In this compelling seminar, hosted by the San Francisco AIDS Foundation and the David Lynch Foundation, doctors, staff, and patients highlight “the impact of Transcendental Meditation on individuals living with HIV/AIDS, and review the results and clinical experience.” WATCH HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOy2_RSgX9c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld [1 Attachment]
On 11/17/2014 11:16 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, my cell phone is 10 years old. I think I need a new one. Any suggestions? /Get the Virgin Mobile USA Android LG Tribute 4G LTE for $59.95 at Best Buy or from Virgin Mobile for $79.95; and the Virgin no-contract plan with unlimited data, text and talk for $35.00 month?/ /http://www.virginmobileusa.com//
