Re: [Gimp-user] changing the size of brushes in 2.2 pre2
Hi, Quoting Napoleon Ahiable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I read that it is possible create a scalable brush in 2.2 pre2. How do > i bind keys to the brush properties so that i don't have to go to brush > editor everytime i need to change the size? First create a new brush in the brushes dock. Set the hardness & radius to what you want. Then open the shortcut editor and find the Increase/Decrease brush size entries, and assign shortcuts to them. You cannot change the size or hardness of a brush during a stroke. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printed help.
Hi John, If you have all the programs required (and that includes a bunch of uncommon LaTeX stuff, and Oriental fonts), you can make pdf.stamp in gimp-help-2. Alternatively, you can download the PDF versions of the docs from http://docs.gimp.org Cheers, Dave. Selon John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The help manual for gimp is in html form which is unhandy for taking into the > reading room :) > > Has anyone produced either a text or a pdf version of the entire help manual? > I can do it with cut and paste or a conversion program but that is a lot of > work because of the multiple files involved. > -- > John Culleton > > Short list of publishing/marketing books: > http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > -- Dave Neary Lyon, France [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
Hi Kevin, Selon Kevin Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I *completely* disagree with Jozsef regarding elimination of the > transformation dialogues that allow numeric input. While these dialog boxes > may not be very useful in Jozsef's workflow, they are *extremely* useful in > mine, where graphics objects and images must be sized to exact numeric > specifications, not according to how they "look". In fact the gimp would be > almost completely useless for my purposes without these dialogs. Whether > Jozsef's suggestion of a single transformation box could be practical for > all of these, I can't say. At best, these inputs belong in the tool options. At worst, they're internal details exposed in the interface, and should more or less be invisible. Eliminating these dialogs, and the crop tool's pop-up, are high priorities for 2.4 as far as I am concerned. Kevin, you might like them, but as someone who regularly gives tutorials in the GIMP to people, and one of the most common tasks is reframing or rotating a bad photo, these dialogs are completely confusing, and most people don't want them. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Editing gradients
Hi Judy, Selon Judy Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I want to edit a couple of gradients and I am unable to make the > gradient editor work. I click on a gradient and I get the edit gradient > dialog, but I am not able to do anything else. I right and left click on > the segments and it seems that they are frozen. What am I doing wrong? I > have googled for help and find some instructions, but they don't seem to > work. I'm using Gimp 2.0 on Mepis. Thanks for any help! To edit gradients, you need write access to the gradient file, otherwise the gradient is opened read-only. If you are trying to edit a preset gradient, first copy the gradient, and then try editing. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble with layers from psd
Hi, Selon Geoffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Michael Schumacher wrote: > > You could also argue that you're similarily locked in when using XCF... at > > least on systems where you can't install the GIMP. > > Is the XCF format proprietary? If not, then this is not a valid comparison. It's not proprietary, in the sense that the information needed to read/write it is publically available, however it's an internal GIMP format, and in the past people have been asked not to support reading XCFs, since the format might change radically, and without notice, if the needs of the GIMP dictated it (they didn't always agree though - ImageMagick can read XCFs). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising
Hi all, As many of you know, we have an informal merchandising arrangement with Sourcewear.com which has raise a few dollars this year (not much, though). I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that Federico at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see better products, and more products, as well as formalising the cut we get from merchandising (this is currently an informal arrangement, I think that we should get an engagement on paper). For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the arm (which I'm OK with), and they would like to be our official merchandiser - that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, and a place of prominence on the front page. That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people? I will firm things up quickly with Federico if it is, but I didn't want to start negociating something without running it past the communtiy that has stuck with the GIMP. Lazy approval is in effect - if you haven't replied in 3 days, I'll assume everyone's happy with this. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising
Hi Simon,
Simon Budig a écrit :
And what is involved with being the "official merchandiser"?
How would we handle other companies trying to sell Gimp merchandise and
want similiar exposure? Do we need an official merchandiser?
Essentially, this is what it comes down to ("de we need an official
merchandiser?"). Or more to the point, do we want a GIMP store. Clearly
we don't *need* anything.
Currently, there is next to no GIMP stuff, and what little there is is
not profiting the GIMP project at all.
This agreement would be a formal agreement whereby sourcewear gets
exposure from gimp.org, and in return we get money, and a variety of
other nice stuff (t-shirts printed at cost for sale at conferences, for
example). So what is involved in being the official merchandiser is that
they would be the only company with a prominent presence on gimp.org.
Other companies who want to produce GIMP merchandise can do so (with the
permission of the copyright holder on Wilber , namely tigert)
independently of gimp.org.
If the project as a whole decides that we don't want to have a
relationship like this with a merchandiser, then fine. We won't, and we
will continue not to have GIMP stuff for sale which will generate money
to pay for stuff. Right now, we're not paying for mych stuff as it is,
in spite of my recent mails on our financial situation.
But as I also said, the relationship in its current state is a
non-starter. Federico is selling almost no GIMP t-shirts, and until
there is some link bringing GIMP fans to sourcewear, that's not going to
change. Which means we continue to sit on our high horse, and people who
want to buy t-shirts don't know where to go to find them.
I would love to be able to buy GIMP stuff online, and know that for
every €20 that I spend, the GIMP is getting €5.
Frankly, making www.gimp.org a platform for a single merchandiser, so
that he can ship Gimp-T-Shirts which also serve as a platform for said
merchandiser does sound like a bad deal for me. Also the stuff currently
available does not catch my fancy.
We will ask to validate product lines, and I don't think Federico would
oppose printing designs which GIMP community members come up with. The
t-shirts are a very high quality, so the only issue is the designs.
The deal would be non-exclusive for GIMP goods, but would be exclusive
(with a limited lifetime) for placement on gimp.org. One requirement I'd
like Federico to satisfy is the ability to link directly to the GIMP
products rather than going through the main page.
The idea of doing things this way is that it's the path of least
resistance to getting a GIMP store. We control the product line, get
regular updates on sales (we can even consult the sales database in
real-time), and regular payments. We don't have to worry about credit
cards, deliveries, customer service, stock management or any of the
other things that make an online store hard work.
I believe the hassle
which will come up when other merchandisers become aware of this deal
is not worth it.
I've talked to a few, the reason I'm suggesting Federico is that he has
already been making and selling high quality GIMP t-shirts for several
months. And why would there be hassle when other merchandisers find out?
None have even approached us to try something like this. In any case, if
it's the bother of other merchandisers you are worried about, I am
willing to be the front-man for this and take all such requests.
Cheers,
Dave.
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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising
Hi, Jay Cox a écrit : Has anyone here seen the quality of their shirts? Are they screen printed or heat transfered? I prefer screen printed tshirts, but gradients like the ones we have in the gimp logo dont usually screen print very well. I'll let Federico answer the question about whether they're screen printed or not - I seem to recall that he told me that they are. And there is a Wilber without gradients. They seem like a good company and I have no reason to doubt their quality, but if I were making the decision I would want to know beforehand. And rightly so. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Looking for a volunteer for some icon design
Hi all, I'm looking for a volunteer with a good eye, and some spare time to donate to the FSF to do some icon design and website buttons. Could anyone interested please contact me, and I'll put you in touch with the relevant people? Thanks a lot, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Travel subsidies
Hi all, Wisdom tells us that the best time to book flights is around 3 months before you travel - so I would like to start booking flights for people coming to the Libre Graphics Meeting, who are in need of a travel subsidy, in about a month. For people coming from other projects, I'm going to hold off a little to see what the sponsorship situation looks like, but since the GIMP has built up a donation stockpile over the last year, I don't need to wait for sponsor approval for GIMPers. Please let me know if you need a subsidy, do me a favour and price your tickets before you let me know, so that I know how much they cost, and I will do my best to get tickets sorted ASAP. A reminder for those who have been asleep: the libre graphics meeting will bring together users and developers of free software graphics programs, and the GIMP development community will be there in force. The conference will be on the 17th, 18th and 19th of March, in CPE Lyon. You should probably arrange to arrive on the 16th, since we have an early start Friday morning with the conference because of the students. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: CMYK support
Hi, Olivier Ripoll wrote: Gimp has some support for CYMK colour mode in the sense that you can decompose your RGB image into CYMK. With the help of the separate plugin ( http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml ), you can even save to tiff. But if you need more advanced CYMK tools, you may have a look at either krita (the KDE image tool) or cinepaint. In terms of color management, Cinepaint and GIMP are more or less on a par now (at least, in the 2.3 series). Neither has native CMYK editing, to my knowledge. Krita's been adding functionality very fast recently - they now have La*b*, CMYK and RGBA, and apparently layer groups are going in soon. I haven't used any later versions yet. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 schedule estimate?
Hi Simon, Selon Simon Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Having written some software in the past, I know this is an unfair > question, but I'm interested in the color management that's slated for > 2.4. Can anyone point me at a time (rough waving damp fingers in the > air) estimate for when that might be released? gimp-developer is a more appropriate forum for the question (although I hope that everyone there is also here). I haven't been involved in GIMP development for a while now, so I can't really tell. > Alternatively and also, anyone using the 2.3 version (described as > unstable) which is available? Is it reasonable to try to use that? I would say yes. It's not feature frozen, but it's already quite usable. > Does > the color management part of it work? And is the CM part likely to > remain constant, or is it subject to total rewrite, rendering my > learning and calibrations/profiling wasted? It's pretty much finished, as far as I know. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)
Hi, Selon Manish Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > For Gimpshop, it was all about forking from the get go. There was no > discussion, no proposal in any of the several places to discuss GIMP > development. No other possibilities were attempted. Put things in perspective - the guy wrote a patch. It's a couple of hundred lines of a patch, which did something he wanted to do in the easiest way he knew how. He did a grep for labels in the source code, and changed them where he found them. Yes, he could have done it differently, but what he did was useful for a bunch of people, and wasn't acceptable for integration into the main GIMP source code. So I have no problem with him coming out with the patched GIMP under a different name. If it was put in bugzilla, the patch would have been refused, or we would have asked him to work on it. So why worry? I'm happy to see this kind of thing happenning around the GIMP. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)
Selon Michael Schumacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Von: Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If it was put in bugzilla, the patch would have been > > refused, or we would have asked him to work on it. > > That's how things are handled in Bugzilla, so what is the problem? The guy scratched an itch. Why should he go to a lot of effort to have that change integrated into GIMP CVS? What's in it for him? He scratched an itch, and moved on. Great! I'm happy for him. > > So why worry? I'm happy to see this kind of thing happenning around the > > GIMP. > > We are worried because some people don't make a distinction between Gimpshop > and GIMP. And? He changed some labels and shortcuts - is it any less the GIMP for that? I would say no. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Despeckle seems to do nothing
hi jonathan, Selon Jonathan Ryshpan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm trying to remove isolated black pixels in large white areas of a tiff > image. For this application, erode or dilate (I get them mixed up) is probably the best option. If you follow a few erodes by a few dilates, the end effect is the removal of tiny specs and detail on the bigger specs. example: '''''''' '''''''' '''''''' ''''''*' '''''''' '''''''' '''''*'' '''''''' '''''''' '***'*'' ->'''''''' ->''**'''' '*'' erode ''**'''' dilate '''' ''**''*' '''''''' ''**'''' ''*''''' '''''''' '''''''' '''''''' '''''''' '''''''' > Reading the documentation isn't much help -- in fact the phrase "You ought to > select isolated defects before applying filter." in the help file is quite > mysterious. What does it mean? just that despeckle can damage stuff which is just fine, in a photo, so selecting areas where you're interested is a good thing. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Export to EPS
Hi, Vytautas P. wrote: Some people using Wndows OS and The GIMP complains about their unability to open EPS files. Maybye they should install some libs or something? Yes - to export or import EPS on Windows, you need Ghostscript installed. You can get it at http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Multicolor pinwheel effect.
Hi John, making the gradient match exactly the circle will be the tough bit, but there's a nice trick to doing something like this: 1. Create a square image 2. Make a gradient that you want to use (I created a gradient with red at both ends, and a "HSV clockwise" blend mode) 3. Blend fill your rectangle 4. Add a white to transparent gradient on the bottom for the center of your circle (otherwise it'll look funny) 5. Apply a 'polar coordinates' filter You should get a pinwheel effect. To change the pinwheel, you just need to change the gradient. Cheers, Dave. John R. Culleton wrote: I want to create a multicolor pinwheel effect for a background, with the arms of each shade radiating out from a hub and curved rather than straight. And I want the colors to blend into each other as in a gradient. A rainbow gradient is an obvious starting point. Would anyone like to suggest a sequence of tools to arrive at this effect? I will post this query elsewhere, but will not crosspost. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Multicolor pinwheel effect.
Hi, John R. Culleton wrote: Sounds good. Will the rays of color be straight or curved? Perhaps I need to put the gradient on a diagonal for this effect. I will experiment! Pinch and whirl to perfection afterwards. The tricky bit is getting the radial pattern. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
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Hi, I would copy the layer, paste it into a layer mask (add layer mask->from selection), and invert the mask. Cheers, Dave. mickeydog wrote: I have an image that is 2 colors, black and white. I want to change all the white pixel to transparent. How do I do this? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Please enlighten me!
Hi, There's no colour box, but otherwise you have a real-time update of the colour under the pointer in the "Pointer" dock in 2.3 - I can't remember if the same thing existed in 2.2. Cheers, Dave. Olivier Ripoll wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Joachim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From Photoshop I'm used to always having readouts available in the Info palette. In Gimp, it seems that though I get all kinds of positional data in the lower left image frame corner, there's no color data readout option. GIMP has an Info window that offers exactly this functionality. Sven Sven, I think he meant that this window disappears when the colour tools (curves, levels) windows are opened, so it is not possible to use it at the same time. It may be indeed useful, to be able to see in real time the evolution of the colours, especially when doing e.g. grey/white/black point corrections. Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Save For Web Option?
Hi Mark, Sorry - we don't have it. It wouldn't be hugely difficult - you'd nee a plug-in that can resize, index, save as png, save as gif, save as jpg, with a quality slider, that would show file size and a decent preview for the different formats. But we don't have it. If anyone knows of a decent plug-in that does, I'd be delighted to hear about it. Cheers, Dave. Mark Sargent wrote: > Hi All, > > am a rather experienced Linux user for the past 2yrs or so, but, not > much with Gimp. I used to use Fireworks/Photoshop on Windows some time > back, and am wondering where within Gimp I can just save as for web, and > it allows me to resize etc. I can't seem to find that option anywhere in > the menus. All I see is, save, save as, save a copy, save as template. I > have a 14.5mb file that I need to get to under 500kb or less. Could > someone point this non-gui fool in the right direction? Cheers. > > Mark Sargent. > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] darkening a grey-scale drawing
Hi Haines, Haines Brown wrote: >>> Am I just being clumbsy, or is there a better approach? >>> >> try using the levels tool. > > Thanks, Carol, I did as you suggested. It works, although the result > was unsatisfactory because the original image distribution of greys > was uneven, and so the result was spotty (gaps in lines, artifacts, > etc.). I guess I try to draw a new image myself. You could try playing with the middle (gamma) slider to get better results, or use the curves tool rather than the levels tool - it gives you a bit more control. > Please excuse the appended question, but is there a way I could use > the original as a kind of template to produce a hard line clean > version in black? I could then blur it a bit for a nice result. You could create a new layer on top of your original, and set the layer mode in "overlay" - that way you will see your original drawing underneath, which you can draw on afterwards. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp 2.2
Hi Grady, I'm forwarding your mail to the GIMP user's list - bugmaster isn't the best forum for this type of question, and you're more likely to get a decent answer and some help over there. Cheers, Dave. Grady, Jordan wrote: > Hello, > > None of the plugins or script-fu work on my machine. It looks like it's > working on something, but the preview screens never show up and there is > no change in the image. > gtk 289 > gimp 2.2.11 > w2k > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Jordan L. Grady > Information Technology Specialist > Milk Products, Inc. > (920) 849-2348 > > > > > > > > > > ___ > bugzilla-maintainers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/bugzilla-maintainers -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: How to animate a transition effect?
Hi Joe, Joe Smith wrote: > David Neary wrote: >> You need GAP, the GIMP Animation Package. > > I'll have another look, but--not to put too fine a point on it--without > any computer animation background (vocabulary and some idea of the > process), I couldn't understand either GAP or the tutorial well enough > to get started. Like I said, I'm no expert. But if all you're using is movepath, then here's a short summary: > Could you (or someone) describe in a few clear steps how to make a > simple animation with GAP? Or point me to something like that? 1. You create a directory for your animation. 2. Your animation will be defined by a number of XCF files (one per frame) with the frame order defined by a number added on to a common root (frame-0001.xcf is the first frame, frame-0002.xcf is the second and so on) 3. The easiest thing to do is to start with a blank frame, and use Video->Duplicate Frames to create the number of frames you'd like 4. The movepath tool (in Video->Movepath) allows you to specify bezier curves which get interpolated - you define a layer to use, and its position, set a start point and an end point, let movepath loose, and it will make the object move smoothly along the path for the frames specified. 5. Movement isn't the only thing you can interpolate - you can also apply affine transforms (shear, scaling) and change opacity - you just define, for each point on your curve, the object's scale factor, transform matrix or opacity, and the interpolation gets dome on its own. The object gets copied, scaled, and placed on a separate layer for each layer that you declare. That should be enough info to start understanding the tutorials at least. But perhaps what you want to use is OO Present or something similar - fade effects and things like this are probably easier, and more appropriate for a presentation. GAP is good for animated GIFs (few frames) or MPEG videos (many frames, needs lots of memory). Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: How to animate a transition effect?
Hi, Carol Spears wrote: > what is wrong with hof's how-to? Nothing - except it seems to assume a couple of things which might not be obvious to a newcomer - explaining (in simple terms) how the tool works can't do any harm. By the way, those grickfilm GAP tutorials *rock* - thank you to the person who did them. Although I'm not sure what movepath stuff you use to get the muzzle flash... (or is it a film already?) Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Startup "layout"
Hi Norman, Norman Walsh wrote: > Is this really not possible? > > / Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > | When Gimp starts, it displays the main menu panel and the "Layers, > | Channels, ..." panel. Is there anyway that I can get it to > | automatically display the File->Layer->Colors menu also? I can "pin" > | it to the desktop for a session, but it'd be a lot less tedious if I > | didn't have to do that every time I started Gimp. Normally, it's enough to open the dock, and quit the GIMP. The docks you have open, as well as their positions on the screen, are saved at the end of every session. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!
Hi, Rikard Johnels wrote: > Who would print it? And how? The Blender foundation are taking care of printing, we just have to get them something within the week. > Any specific materials or do you plan to "cut-n-tape" ordinary > color-printouts? No idea - perhaps the website I pointed to has more information. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!
Hi Mukund, Mukund wrote: > I see time is limited for this, but I would really like more than one > artist to collaborate and do this as a team. That's all I have to add. Given the time constraints, and previous experience with this kind of thing, design by committee is definitely not a good idea. One artist with his own artistic vision should be able to come up with a first draft in an evening (bearing in mind that this should be visually clear from a distance, and thus simple). Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!
Thanks Jakub! Any chance that you can send me the SVG? ;-) All that's needed really is the project name, website, and maybe a glimpse of a screenshot, I think. I've had few guidelines, artistic licence is the order of the day. No catchy slogans required :) Cheers, Dave. Jakub Steiner wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 23:21 +0200, David Neary wrote: > >> Can someone do a 30" x 60" banner design for GIMP & GNOME for me this >> week, by any chance? Please? It should have both the GNOME logo and >> Wilber, but aside from that you're free. > > Hi Dave, > > Here's a quickie minimalistic banner. Not really knowing any catchy > slogans, it's simply stating the project name. Feel free to modify, it's > Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike. > > Some technical notes - Inkscape 0.44 seems to have problems with clipped > objects. If you don't see the gnome foot or Wilber when you open the > SVG, select the Wilber/GNOME layer, select all with Ctrl+A, release mask > with object>clip>release and apply it again with object>clip>set. > > cheers > -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!
Hi all, By the way, in case I wasn't clear before - this is one 30"x60" banner for both the GIMP and GNOME. If in doubt, then GNOME should be the dominant theme on there. Cheers, Dave. Jakub Steiner wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 23:21 +0200, David Neary wrote: > >> Can someone do a 30" x 60" banner design for GIMP & GNOME for me this >> week, by any chance? Please? It should have both the GNOME logo and >> Wilber, but aside from that you're free. > > Hi Dave, > > Here's a quickie minimalistic banner. Not really knowing any catchy > slogans, it's simply stating the project name. Feel free to modify, it's > Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike. > > Preview: > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/siggraph-gnome.png > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/siggraph-gimp.png > > SVGs: > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/siggraph-gnome.svg > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/siggraph-gimp.svg > > > Some technical notes - Inkscape 0.44 seems to have problems with clipped > objects. If you don't see the gnome foot or Wilber when you open the > SVG, select the Wilber/GNOME layer, select all with Ctrl+A, release mask > with object>clip>release and apply it again with object>clip>set. > > cheers > -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Some photograph morphing tricks
Hi, Mukund wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 10:02 -0700, Tanveer Singh wrote: >> Hi, >> I have some snaps of me and my wife which are color. I have seen some >> lovely pics in which the faces and skin is BW, cloths are color and >> background is BW. How to do such stuff in gimp? > > Go through the GIMP tutorials: > http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ Also, gimpguru: http://www.gimpguru.org/ (there's a big tutorials section). And in particular, this tutorial: http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/SelectiveColorization/ Cheers, Dave. PS. I don't know if Eric is on this list - if you are, shout! You're one of my heros. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GLIB not found in RH9 - Advice please?
Quoting Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * and then Dave Neary declared > > rpm -qa | grep gtk > > > > will tell you what rpms with gtk in the name you have installed, and their > > versions (you should have gtk+ in there, and it should be version 2.2.2 or > > later, ideally). After that, you should check if you see a gtk+-devel > package (a > > similar search for glib and glib-devel could be helpful too). > > gtk+-1.2.10-25 > gtk+-devel-1.2.10-25 > ...and for glib: > > glib-1.2.10-10 > glib-devel-1.2.10-10 These versions of gtk+ and glib is too old. > gtk2-2.2.1-4 Weird. You have a recent version of gtk+ installed, which implies the newer version of glib (unless you're a naughty boy and install everything -f). But you don't. In any case, you don't have gtk2-devel installed. And you should consider upgrading to 2.2.2 if you use any XInput devices. > and the last few lines for the ./configure output: > > checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.2.0... no > *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why... > *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for > the > *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly > installed. Your exact error is likely to be "glib-2.0.pc not found". You really need to make sure that you search for and install the RedHat devel RPMs for gtk+ 2.2. > heh! How odd. The first mail I got from you ended up straight in my > inbox rather than the gimp mailbox so I figured you wanted the > discussion off-list for some reason! ;-) - List now cc'd It just means that I did a Reply-all, which probably didn't trigger procmail (or perhaps I forgot). Anyway, the list is good :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GLIB not found in RH9 - Advice please?
Quoting Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > I tried compiling 1.3.9 on my RedHat9 system and it couldn't find GLIB > 2.0 or higher. I do appear to have GLIB in /usr/lib/glib and I'm fairly > sure it's the latest version. > > Could someone please point me in the right direction? Hi, If you are compiling a development series, it makes very little sense to build an old one, unless you're testing a performance regression or something like that (if you are, then great!). But if you aren't, then you should consider building the later version. Not only is it more likely to be usable for day-to-day work, it is also the only version of the devel series for which bugs are considered (by which I mean, if you have a bug you are likely to be asked to check that it's also present in the latest version). In any case, all of the dependencies are detailed in the INSTALL file that came with your distribution. In brief, for 1.3.17, you will need a working installation of gtk+ (with development headers installed), including the freetype2 back-end to pango (for the text tool, you will need pangoft2, and fontconfig). In addition, you will need development headers for png, tiff and jpeg libraries, and if you don't want to install gimp-print, you need to say so explicitly by compiling with --disable-print. Everything you need to get gtk+ going, if it isn't already (which it is if you're on RedHat 9) is available at ftp.gnome.org and freedesktop.org. That said, all that you probably need to do is install the -devel packages for the already-present gtk+ packages. Oh - also, note that 1.3.9 might not work with gtk+ 2.2 - back then we were still building against 2.0. Good luck! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to move selection ONLY!?!
Quoting Mikelis Zalais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just can't make it happen. I want to make a selection and then move it > to the right plase WITHOUT moving it's contents or any part of image. > Just the selection. Like in PhotoShop... > > I am using GIMP 1.2.3 & 1.3.17 > And besides I am a newbie! :) Hi Mikelis, Works fine here. When you have the select tool active and you press the modifier (Alt) key, you should see a cursor like this... http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~bolsh/various_images/selection_move.png ... which means that all is well, and you are good to move the selection without moving the contents. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 1.3.18 released
Hi everybody, We've just finished up the camp here, and we thought it would be a good idea to commemorate the occasion with a release. There are quite a few changes in this release, so it is worthwhile to upgrade, particularly if you had build problems with the mme code in the last release. This is the latest in the development series of the GIMP. This will very soon be a pre-release version for the GIMP 2.0, so all testing efforts are appreciated to help us pin down some bugs. As usual, tarballs are available at ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/1.3/1.3.18/. Happy GIMPing, Dave Neary. Overview of Changes in GIMP 1.3.18 == - Made a bunch of improvements to the path tool [Nomis] - Added lots of mnemonnics for plug-ins [Brix] - Build fixes for Win32 [Hans, Tor] - Improvements to the grid [Brix] - Improved compiler checks for MMX code [Helvetix, Sven] - Allow patent-free compression for GIF [Cameron] - Add several edge detection algorithms to the edge tool [Bolsh] - Fixed handle leak in plug-ins on Win32 [Tor] - Changed default quality for jpegs [Raphael] - Add changing opacity via cursor keys [Nomis] - Fix text tool outlines [Mitch] - Serialize/deserialize documentation [Sven] - Colourcibe analysis plug-in added [Yosh] - Lots of code clean-up in displayshell [Mitch] - Camp organisation [Sven, Mitch] - Added a working gimp.spec for building RPMs [Drh] - Lots of bug fixes Other contributors: Maurits Rijk, Raphael Quinet, Adam Moss -- Dave Neary Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Third big serious meeting from GIMPcon
Hi all, Here are the minutes of the meeting we had this afternoon, written up by Raphael. Feedback is welcome (even desirable), especially on this topic. The general topic was how to get more people working on the GIMP, and how to inform people better about what's going on. Anyway, here are the minutes of Raphael. Please take a few minutes to read them. I know these mails have been pretty long, but it's worthwhile reading them, and maybe letting us know when you think we have our heads up our bums. Thanks a lot, and happy GIMPing, Dave. Here are the minutes of Yet Another Big Meeting that took place this afternoon in the GimpTent. The meeting was chaired by Dave Neary and these minutes were written by Raphael Quinet. As I (Raphael) cannot post easily to the mailing lists from the Camp, Dave is posting this message for me. The title of this meeting was "Communication". The main topics were how to improve the communication between developers and users or potential new developers. We also discussed how to present the GIMP to the "outside" and how to make it easier for new users to try out the GIMP or get involved in GIMP development. Altough there was no pre-defined agenda for this meeting, the following topics were discussed: - How to get new developers? - De we need binary distributions? - Is Bugzilla too hard to use for new users? - List of open tasks - Mailing lists How to get new developers? -- Like in any Free Software project, developers are leaving from time to time to pursue other projects. And from time to time, new developers are joining the team and starting to contribute. However, it looks like the number of new developers joining the GIMP development has been decreasing in the recent years. This may be due in part to the fact that there haven't been any major changes in a stable release for a long time. Another reason may be that it is difficult to build the development version because it depends on released versions of some libraries that are not included yet in the major GNU/Linux distributions (e.g., GTK+ version 2.2.2). Also, the number of dependencies for GIMP 1.3.x is much higher than the number of dependencies for GIMP 1.2.x, so it is more difficult to have a working build environment for the 1.3.x version. This problem may be solved as time passes, because more and more distributions will include the required libraries. There should be a section on www.gimp.org or developer.gimp.org titled "How to contribute?" or "How to get involved?". It should be easy for potential new developers to see where to start and how they can help. More on that below. Do we need binary distributions? There was a discussion about binary distributions. This may help people to try some versions of the GIMP (especially the development versions) without having to compile everything. However, maintaining binaries is a lot of work, even if we only maintain binaries supplied by others. In addition, this would bring some additional responsabilities that we do not want to have. For these reasons, it was decided that www.gimp.org would not host any binaries but would link to the pages of those who are providing binaries for various platforms. It would be very nice to have Windows binaries for the development version. Is Bugzilla too hard to use for new users? -- It was suggested to make it easier for users to submit bug reports, for example by having an e-mail address to which bug reports can be sent without having to register to Bugzilla (we already have such an address, although it is not widely known). This proposal was rejected because most of the bug reports (especially from new users) are incomplete and require additional information. If the user does not have a Bugzilla account, it is not possible to rely on the automatic notification system to send messages to the user when a comment is added to their bug report or when the status of their bug report changes. Most developers consider Bugzilla to be a very valuable tool that works well. Instead of trying to hide Bugzilla from the users, we should try to make it as easy as possible for the new users to join. This is already done to some extent by the bug submission wizard available from http://bugs.gimp.org/. There is a small problem with the GNOME2 keyword that prevents the open GIMP bugs from being displayed to the user and we should try to get this fixed. List of open tasks -- There are many open bug reports or proposals for enhancements that would be relatively easy to fix or implement. We should make it easier for potential contributors to see the list of easy tasks that are open. The "easy tasks" should include anything that can be done in one or two hours by an average developer or maybe a bit more if the contributor is not familiar
[Gimp-user] The Second GIMPCon meeting
Hi again, Sorry I forgot to send the mail from yesterday to the users list - I will correct that in a moment. So here is my notes from the second big meeting we had last night, which covers the upcoming release schedule, things which are considered blockers to 2.0 pre-releases, and how we plan to get 2.0 out the door. As usual, feedback is welcome. Happy GIMPing, Dave. The Second Big Serious Meeting - 8 Aug 03, around 8pm Discussion was led by Daniel Rogers (dsrogers) but stuff said is for the most part anonymous. Partly because there shouldn't be any ad hominem attacks that way, and partly because I didn't take down any names. Present: Dan Rogers, Raphael Quinet, Dave Neary (bolsh), Sven Neumann, Mitch Natterer, Hans Brix Anderssen (brix), Jakub Steiner (jimmac), Simon Budig (nomis), Marc Lehmann, Ville Patsi (drc), Oyvind Kolas (pippin), Calvin Williamson, Roman Joss (romanofski), Maurits Rijk, Branko Collins (bbc). Topic discussion, in approximate chronological order: - - Features required for 2.0 - Documentation and web - Roadmap - Near-term release schedule - Bugs - GIMP Foundation - Release manager - Features required for 2.0 --- There was quite a lot of talk on what was required for a 2.0 release. It was agreed that a pre-release should have feature complete versions of everything going into 2.0, for obvious reasons. These can be somewhat buggy, but they should at least support what is supported in the 1.2 equivalents. The major features or API changes which it was agreed are necessary are: 1) Complete path tool (nomis) 2) Remove libgck (Sven & mitch) 3) Finish the text tool (Sven) 4) Documentation (more on this later) 5) Web-site (again, more on this later) 6) Some libgimp changes which need to be made now so that we can have binary compatibility across a 2.2 release - Documentation --- We felt that with pre-releases, the documentation will become more complete. There should, however, be an effort to actively get people writing docs. The main requirement, then, for 2.0 pre-releases will be to have a working help framework, so that when people hit F1 for help, they at least get a message saying "This help item does not exist yet. If you would like to help write it, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]" or some such. If documentation is going to be released as a separate package, as now seems likely, then we will need to define the interface between the core and the help pages reasonably quickly. The general idea is to more or less hard-code tagnames for a particular help topic, and get the core and help using the same tags, and agreeing on how they be communicated. This will presumably require a considerable amount of communication with the help team. We also need to have the docs browsable online so that if people want to browse them they can. - Web-site -- The new site should switch over to www.gimp.org soon. There will obviously be quite a bit of pain involved as content gets added and we get lots of "your website sucks" type feedback, but this will only be for the short term. We should switch to mmaybe as the main site before 2.0pre1. It was suggested to do it even earlier than that, in the region of 2 to 3 weeks time. It was also discussed whether it was a good idea to have a separate coordinator for the website. - Roadmap -
[Gimp-user] [Fwd: [Gimp-developer] FWD: authors required]
Hi, Sending this on the gimp-user, since there are probably some bugging authors on that list. Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Begin Message --- I am subscribed to a mailing list for freelancers. Today I got a call for authors of books about, amongst others: - GIMP (specifically creating website graphics with GIMP) Other topics include EzPublish, Linux Networking, e-commerce with LAMP, etc. The ad can be found at <http://www.freelancers.net/job.html?ID=8298>. It's for a UK outfit, so my guess is the book needs to be written in English. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer --- End Message --- ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] fixed ratio selection
Hi Jina, Jina wrote: looking for a way to make fixed ratio selections, such as H/W=1.5 for instance. My purpose is to crop photos to eliminate unwanted parts, while keeping the same H/W ratio from the original. can someone help ? Yes - in the rectangular selection tool's options, you have an option to constrain the aspect ratio of the selection. If you pu W=3, and H=2, then your rectangular selections will be constrained to 1.5. You can then use the "Crop from selection" option of the crop tool, or alternatively call ->Edit->Crop directly. Cheers, Dave. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Tool select
Hi, Carol Spears wrote: gimp has never worked this way. perhaps you should go back to using the software you were using. i dont think gimp should ever work this way. Carol, I don't really mind when you're rude to people like me, or other gimp developers. It has a kind of charm about it. But please don't be rude to people who are just asking questions. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre
Hi, Thomas Spuhler wrote: It compiled here using the configure, make, make install after installing some libraries. Would be nice if I could make rpm's, but I guess the package is not set up that way. There is a gimp.spec file in CVS, and in the tarball, and there are GIMP RPMs pre-built by drc. It looks really nice and has very nice new features. However, I cannot find CMYK mode. I read a review and it was told that this has now been implemented. That would be inaccurate... you can save as CMYK TIFF, but the transforms are really quite simple. There is no native CMYK editting mode. This is a requirement in order to open files that have been produced on Photoshop full Edition by our ad agency. Am I missing something? Afraid not. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help a novice...
Hi, Matt wrote: At 09:33 AM 1/14/04 -0700, SCOTT ANDERSON wrote: I'm running Win 98, and have downloaded the 2.0 to my program files. I don't know what to do from here. _I'll be watching for your post. The WinGIMP page has files and instructions for 1.2.4 but not for 2.0. I would like to know how to install 2.0 also. Your choices are to use the installer (which was still at 1.3.23 when I last looked, although Jernej may have updated it since) or the .zips. If you choose to use the .zips, then you need to download lots of packages, and basically unzip them all in the same place (create a directory c:\GIMP-2.0 and unzip everything) - for some .zips you may have to copy files from $PACKAGE_NAME/bin to bin (same thing for lib). Once everything is unzipped, you should set the path to include the gtk+ files (if you installed them separately), and just run gimp-1.3.exe. The installer is easier - just run gimp-installer.exe and it will install the program The Windows Way (TM). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Select contiguous regions tool (Z) Problems
Hi, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: I have a layer with many disjoint shapes surrounded by transparency. To move the rectangles, I would select the tool (Z), make sure the threshold was at 255, and select transparent areas was off. Then I could click on the shape (which selected everything up to the transparency) and move it where I needed it. I'm afraid I haven't been able to reproduce this in the HEAD. There has been one change since 2.0 pre1 in the contiguous region selection, but that should only affect indexed mode. Could you open a bug against this and attach an example image which shows this behaviour? Are you sure that the completely transparent areas are really completely transparent? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Digital cameras RAW images
Hi, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: Can GIMP handle raw images from digital camera (without downsizing to 8 bits per channel) as Photoshop can? No. For the moment, the GIMP is limited to 8 bits per channel. Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: The GIMP 2.0pre2
Hi,
The most recent installment from the GIMP production line, version
2.0pre2, is available now for perusal, downloading, evaluation, testing
and use from
ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.0/testing/
or from one of the mirrors listed at http://gimp.org/download.html
Since the last release, nearly 40 known bugs have been killed, and many
other small changes have been made during code reviews.
Given the relatively small number of bugs reported against our past
pre-release, we expect this to be the final pre-release before 2.0, so
we extra-appreciate the time you spend testing and breaking it.
Happy GIMPing,
Dave.
Bugs fixed in GIMP 2.0pre2
==
- 130828: Compile error with gcc 2.95 (Adrian Bunk)
- 35335: Curve tool doesn't conserve black (Simon)
- 130866: Remove multiple PNG entries in file type dropdown (Brix)
- 106991: Add mnemonics for all menu items (finished by Mitch)
- 130869: Add smaller image templates (Dave Neary)
- 130916: Handle multiline texts better (Mitch)
- 120424: Add dirty flag to default image title (Brix)
- 130912: Fix rounding errors in JPEG plug-in ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- 131016: Add support for layer offsets in multipage tiff loading (Pablo
d'Angelo)
- 124073: Modify behaviour of zoom tool to avoid funny fractions (Dave
Neary, Simon)
- 131088: fix select-to-pattern script-fu (Mitch)
- 82478: Fix zoom handling in fractal explorer (Pedro Gimeno)
- 115793: Make thumbnail preview of indexed images match display (Pedro
Gimeno)
- 130471: Handle RGBA images correctly in the CEL plug-in (Dov Grobgeld)
- 131109: Remove EMX specific code (Sven)
- 130118: Handle GIMP2_DIRECTORY with non-UTF-8 characters correctly
(Tor Lillqvist, Sven)
- 82465: Make preview match image when image is greyscale (Sven)
- 92586: Force SF_IMAGE value to reflect the selected image (Sven)
- 116765: Fix selection artifacts while moving selections (Pedro Gimeno,
Mitch)
- 131215: Only call bind_textdomain_codeset when available (Reinhard
Geissler)
- 125141: Resolve API issues with GimpPixelFetcher and
GimpRegionIterator (David Odin, Maurits Rijk)
- 109078: Fix histogram for graylevel images (Pedro Gimeno, Mitch)
- 131146: Fix drag & drop of patterns to layer masks (Dave Neary, Mitch)
- 128112: Use a better error message if help files are not present
(Mitch)
- 78732: Don't paste outside the visible screen, if possible (Mitch)
- 131561: Make "Condensed" fonts available for use (Manish Singh)
- 71922: Fix SuperNova preview for Alpha channel (David Odin)
- 82464: Fix SuperNova preview for greyscale images (David Odin)
- 121966: Fix SuperNova plug-in (David Odin)
- 110610: Allow user to choose file formats even if the current image
type is not supported by them (Pedro Gimeno)
- 131980: Fix crash in crop tool (David Odin, Sven)
- 131030: Allow saving data without pre-multiplying by alpha channel in
tiff plug-in (Pablo d'Angelo, Dave Neary)
- 125864: Guides behave correctly when spacing is set to 1px (Brix)
- 131721: Fix handling of alpha channels across undo steps (Mitch)
- 128025: Fix behaviour when there is a floating selection (Mitch)
- 131076: Make fuzzy select tool respect alpha channel in indexed mode
(Mitch)
- 131779: Improve indexed scaling dialog (Mitch)
- 127673: Overlapping widgets in gradient editor {Mitch)
Other contributions:
David Odin, Manish Singh, Simon Budig, Michael Natterer, Sven Neumann,
Tor Lillqvist, Henrik Brix Andersen
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Re: Re : [Gimp-user] Digital cameras RAW images
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: Le 19.01.2004 14:32, Dave Neary a écrit : Hi, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: Can GIMP handle raw images from digital camera (without downsizing to 8 bits per channel) as Photoshop can? No. For the moment, the GIMP is limited to 8 bits per channel. Dave. Hi, Does « for the moment » means there are some plan to change this in rhe (near) future ? ;-) This is something which we will get for some cost (mostly interface issues) when we have fully migrated to gegl. People are currently debating a migration plan for getting gegl into the GIMP. Currently nothing has been decided. In one of these plans it's possible we will have higher bitdepths within a year in a stable release. In another, it will be a little longer. Given our experiences with 2.0, I suspect that the plan which will be chosen is the one which allows us to keep a more or less stable CVS tree during the migration. I'd guess if you twisted my arm that we'll have both more colourspaces and increased bitdepth within 18 months. But that guess is worth about the same as anyone else's. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] bug report for gimp-2.0pre1.tar.bz2
Hi, david wrote: There is a bug that does not seem to have been fixed for gimp-2.0pre2.tar.bz2 which was in the previous prerelease version. I did bother to log on to the bug reporting site and entered the bugbut it is still occuring. However, I recognise that this maybe a peculiarity of my setup. This may sound a little obvious, but if you observe a bug, and you don't report it, it's unlikely it will be fixed (unless a bunch of people observe the bug and it's already been reported). Please report bugs you find in Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.gnome.org) so that we can fix them. But first, please do a search to see if your bug has already been reported or fixed. What happens is this: I open a new document and accept the default. I select the rectangular shape tool. I draw a square in the centre of the canvas...holding down the shift key to force a square. Then I select a foreground colour...red...and select the bucket fill tool. I fill the square with the red colour. I select copy and copy what is there as is. I then paste. Thats where it crashes. I don't have this problem, but of course that doesn't mean it's not a bug. Please report it in Bugzilla. Also, could you say how you're copying & pasting, and so on. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] the spec file
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RPM build errors: File not found: /var/tmp/gimp-2.0pre2-root/usr/lib/libgimp-1.3.so.25.0.0 The included spec file doesn't work with the 2.0pre2 tarball. This has already been fixed in CVS. It would be nice if either Ville was mailed when the version number was bumped in configure.in, or a couple of days before a release, to make sure this didn't happen again. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] gimp-data-extras update
Hi all, I was a little bored after lunch, so I updated the configure.in of gimp-data-extras to work with the 1.3 releases. For those who want to install these with an old 1.2 gimp, the branch gimp-1-2 was created. To get the extra brushes, patterns and gradients that were collected all those years ago, cvs co the gimp-data-extras repository on cvs.gnome.org, run autogen.sh and then make install. Those of you using anonymous CVS will have to wait a while. Those of you who don't want to go messing in CVS will get a tarball soon. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-data-extras update
Owen wrote: Well that sort of worked, a lot of the brushes for example don't show. reach.gbr point.gbr and bigcircle*.gbr, didn't check them all All those get installed here. The names are different from the filenames though, so perhaps you just didn't notice them? reach.gbr, for example, shows up in the brushes dialog under "i pity the fool". The odd pattern I checked was there but no gradients This is normal - there are no palettes or gradients in gimp-data-extras (eeek!) - contributions are welcome. The patterns all seem present and accounted for, though... Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Changing colors
Hi, Johannes Reese wrote: How can one change colors in a picture. I have found only a command to change color to transparency? There are lots and lots of ways. Some of them are: 1) Select by colour, then fill the selection with the desired colour 2) Select by colour, and then map to a gradient with the desired colours (this might give a smoother result with the right gradient) 3) In indexed mode, edit the desired colour in the indexed palette dock 4) Paint :) 5) Rotate the colourmap 6) Swap 2 colours, or intervals of colours Many of these are found in ->Filters->Color->Map. Hope this helps, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Two instances of TIF in save menu
misfit-x wrote: Version: Gimp-2.0pre2-1 (rpm build) If you go to save an image and choose a file format in the drop down box, there appears to be two instances of "Tiff". Ooops - that's my fault. Could you open a bug against this in Bugzilla please? There was recently a similar problem with png, so the same solution should work. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Two instances of TIF in save menu
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: misfit-x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If you go to save an image and choose a file format in the drop down box, there appears to be two instances of "Tiff". This is a bug and will be fixed. It's fixed in CVS. If you haven't already created the bug, don't worry about it. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.0 pre3
Hi, Jakub Friedl (listy) wrote: thank you :o) greta work when will be the final done? I posted an updated schedule to the developer list last night, we should ahve 2.0 (all going well) before the end of February. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2 install and SVG
Hi, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: Anyone on this list tried to install pre2? on redhat? I run CVS GIMP on RedHat 8 with XD2. I'm finding it stressful... would appreciate a well laid out howto You will need the following for a full install of the GIMP: Required: GTK+ 2.2.4 + devel packages (this will normally install a bunch of other requirements, which I won't go into) libart_lgpl + devel package libpng + devel package libjpeg + devel package fontconfig 2.2.1 + devel package pango with XFT backend (this might not be included in pango by default) + devel Reccommended: (mostly for plug-ins, all require devel packages too) libtiff libwmf rsvg (required for SVG import, export curves to SVG, etc) libexif gtk-doc gtkhtml ghostscript gimpprint 4.2.x I think that's about it... All this stuff is documented (with URLs for packages) in the README file in the distribution. Or you can install the rpm (http://www.gnome.org/~drc/gimp-rpms/), which will tell you what you need, and you won't need the devel packages at all. How many days away is the final release? Probably less than a month. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2 install and SVG
Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: Dave, thanks, my error was not to read the link to working packages in fedora. However: lcms is proving to be a problem, compiled and installed, no errors noticed by me, but not found. is this a PATH issue, not so hot on this aspect? can you please advise me how to add path if that is what's missing, if not what else might it be? The test we do for littlecms is very simple - we #include a header file from the distribution, and try to use a function defined in it, then compile & link the binary against the lcms library. The possible errors are therefore (1) the header is not found, (2) the symbol is not found in the header, (3) the library is not found and (4) the symbol is not found in the library. Of the 4, the likely problem is that the library is not being found - there is a search path for dynamic libraries specified in the file /etc/ld.so.conf, and if you add /usr/loocal/lib (or wherever liblcms.so is installed) to this file, and run ldconfig as root, your problem will probably be solved. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Pre4
Hi, Thomas Spuhler wrote: I thought I read there is a pre4 but I cannot find it on the server? Perhaps you read that "bug X is fixed in pre4" - the release hasn't been made. That is shorthand for "fixed in CVS". Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GLib-ERROR inside GIMP
Hi Bruce, Bruce Burden wrote: I created a 45MB jpg with GIMP a few years ago. Now, when I attempt to open the image, the file is successfully loaded, the first tile or so is shown, then GIMP crashes because: 45 MB!!! That's a big image. bash-2.05b$ gimp GLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 16384 bytes aborting... gimp terminated: Abort trap Now, I realize that this is a GLib error, but I am looking for pointers on why GLib is not able to allocate a few K of memory. On a maching with nearly 1GB of free memory, I would expect to be able to read a 45MB file (especially since I created the image with less memory!) The 16K is likely to be the straw that broke the camel's back, the little bit of memory that pushed things over the top. Since glib contains all the memory allocation functions we use, a glib error would be the expected way for this kind of failure to happen. If you have lots of memory, you might consider increasing your tile cache size (this figure corresponds to how much RAM the GIMP will use for image data before it starts writing it to disk). You might also check that the partition your home directory is in is not full, although IIRC that would be another issue. Also, you might consider running top to see how much memory the GIMP takes up. With a 45M compressed file, the image in memory is likely to be bigger than 200M (depending on the compression settings you used), this will let you see what's happenning in terms of the GIMP's memory usage. You might also try installing 2.0pre3 alongside your 1.2.5 installation, and test whether this bug has somehow been fixed during the last 3 years. You can install both versions alongside each other, so this will not affect your 1.2.5 installation in the slightest. And while you're at it could I ask you to open a bugzilla report against this? While it is unlikely that we will ever have a 1.2.6 release, if the bug is still present in the 2.0 release, it is more likely to be fixed if there is a bugzilla report open against it. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GLib-ERROR inside GIMP
Bruce Burden wrote: That is what I figured. Since I was able to create and manipulate the file to start with, I assume it is something that I changed. Problem is, I don't see that malloc() returns a useful error indication. You could try running the gimp in valgrind - this should tell you if there is any funniness going on with malloc. It will also probably take all your ram (valgrind is essentially an x86 emulator that relaces the system libc with its own). Is there a reasonable way to provide more detail as to what GIMP is doing in a bug report? Reporting that GTK is failing when a 45MB jpg file is expanded to 500MB+ is perhaps a bit too generic. It would be nice to say it was in routine . It's actually not (that) unusual that the GIMP would take 500M of memory for a 45M jpeg. It appears that some other people have had trouble reproducing the problem, but perhaps that's because they didn't use version 1.2.3 to create the jpegs in question. In any case, creating a bugzilla report is essential to getting the problem solved. I've already forgotten the actual symptoms of the problem that you reported in your original mail :) Also, it would be nice if you would test this in the 2.0 pre-releases, since if it is not a problem there it is unlikely to be fixed in the 1.2 branch. Hope this helps, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Press package for 2.0
Hi all,
On IRC a few days ago Sven asked if anyone was working on a press
release for 2.0.
I got thinking that it would be nice to have a press package for the
release, which would contain
- A press release
- Some detail about the GIMP ("The GIMP is..." with the spiel from the
web-page, perhaps spruced up a little)
- A detailed document of user visible features in the release
- Perhaps an article for lazy magazine writers so that they could take
the article, change some paragraphs around, and have a 1 or 2 page
article on the GIMP in their April issues.
I have started a rubric on the Wiki for the press file, which has these
4 sub-topics. It would be really cool for people to contribute to this
(please, say on the list of you are writing something for this so that
people can get collaborative on this).
Here's what's there so far:
Raymond Ostertag and jimmac have both been working on a list of features
in the 2.0 GIMP - here's Raymond's version (in French):
http://www.gimp-fr.org/html/mongimpfr/Presentation_GIMP2.html
Here's the (in progress) translation in English (Sorry, Raymond, I
haven't had the time to read it - perhaps someone on the list will give
some feedback):
http://www.chez.com/lamarque/index.php?gimp2.html
There are also links to what's new in GAP and a tutorial for the new
paths tool, which it would be nice to have translated soon.
The screenshots need to be updated for the English version.
The article needs to be completely written, if we are going to include
it (and that's optional).
So - who has some time to help out with this? Pipe up.
Cheers,
Dave.
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[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Press package for 2.0
Hi all, Dave Neary wrote: I have started a rubric on the Wiki for the press file, which has these 4 sub-topics. It would be really cool for people to contribute to this (please, say on the list of you are writing something for this so that people can get collaborative on this). I didn't give a link: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpPressPack Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment
Hi Paul, McNamara, Paul (P.S.) wrote: A simple question about the release of version 2.0. Approximately how long after the UNIX version will the Windows version be available? As of about 18 months ago, the exact same source code builds on Win32 and on Linux/unix/MacOS X. So when the GIMP is released, the source code for all versions will be available. However, up to this point, the project has never prepared "official" binaries for any platform. All GIMP binaries are unofficial - even those for Linux. Some convenience files are included in CVS (for example, the gimp.spec for RedHat builds), but binary versions become available as the various maintainers/packagers make them available. The Windows port maintainer is Tor Lillqvist, and the Win32 installer packages are provided by Jernej Simoncic. Perhaps Tor and Jernej could say if they plan to make Windows binaries directly after the 2.0 release - recently releases have been made available within a week of the source release, apart from for pre3, which still isn't available as an installer. Hope this answers your question, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment
Hi Sven, Sven Neumann wrote: IMO it's not very nice to ask for a timeframe for the availability of the installer package. By providing you this package, Jernej is doing you a favor on a voluntary basis. You shouldn't put him under pressure by asking for a time frame. That is about as bad (or maybe even worse) as asking the developers to set a date for the 2.0.0 release. I don't think that asking necessarily puts pressure on anyone. If you need the Win32 installer at a certain point in time, you can easily create it yourself. For a very unusual definition of "easily". Building the GIMP on Win32 is not that easy. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment
Hi Eric, Eric Pierce wrote: If you're asked constantly (he is on the Gimp-win mailing list), I would guess it may add a smidge of tension to the everyday. Where's the gimp-win list these days? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] release date(s) & gimp PR problems
Hi, Void lon iXaarii wrote: PS: gimp seems to me like dead software for the simple reason that the gimp.org seems to be very un-updated: I agree there are problems with the website. Something should happen soon, but unfortunately I have no idea what that will be. Currently, no-one is working on the website to my knowledge (either www or mmmaybe). Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help docs online
Hi everyone, I haven't seen this link sent to the lists yet, so I figured people would be interested. The in-progress GIMP 2 docs are built from sources and available online (thanks to Roman Joost, the docs maintainer) here: http://www.kuhcampus.de/~roman/gimp-help-2/C/ Suggestions for improvements to the docs, or additional docs for undocumented sections, can be posted in the wiki at http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpDocs There are some particularly interesting pages there - Work in progress: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpDocsWip How to help out: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/TipsForContributing Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help docs online
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: I think we should somehow get this setup at http://manual.gimp.org/. When GIMP-2.0 is out, the GIMP User Manual written by Karin and Olof will be pretty much outdated and should IMHO be replaced by the help written for GIMP-2.0. What do you think? Sounds like a good idea. What would be involved to do that? Would it be a case of having the docs auto-built on a gimp.org machine or making the URL point to Roman's machine? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Press pack requests
Hi Alan, Alan Horkan wrote: - Could native english speakers who have a few minutes please look at the "What's new in GIMP 2.0" page (http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/WhatsNew) and correct any grammar problems? The document starts with a TODO note that hopefully will be removed Eventually :) Thanks for your updates, I've integrated them now. By the way, you can do that yourself by clicking on the "EditText" link at the bottom of the page. I have left in the "Other stuff" section, though, since there are lots of really nice features in there. However as a user I'm fascinated by part of the closing statement "Gimp can already do many things that are difficult or impossible with Photoshop" and I would love if the author or anyone else could elaborate on this. It would make a very good pulicity piece to accompany the release notes. I'm not sure what Raymond had in mind. Raymond? Que dis-tu? weird. mozilla (at the top of the browser tab) says the following screenshot is PNG http://developer.gimp.org/screenshots/gimp-text.jpeg Yup, it's a png. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Press pack requests
Hi all, The 2.0 release is getting closer, and there are still some thing missing from the press pack we want to send out. - Could native english speakers who have a few minutes please look at the "What's new in GIMP 2.0" page (http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/WhatsNew) and correct any grammar problems? - high-res screenshots of The GIMP showing new features are welcome. Examples of the kind of screenshots which are interesting are here: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/private/gimp-2/html/index.xhtml http://developer.gimp.org/screenshots.html - If anyone would like to donate an article on The GIMP 2.0, it is most welcome (this might also be a source of revenue for funding if magazines re-print it). Thanks a lot, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Press pack requests
Hi again, Dave Neary wrote: - If anyone would like to donate an article on The GIMP 2.0, it is most welcome (this might also be a source of revenue for funding if magazines re-print it). Speaking of magazines, that reminds me of one thing we have not done. I have started a new page in PressPack, MagazineAddresses. Could people add the following information: - Magazine name - editor's e-mail address - postal address if available for all Linux, digital photography and image processing magazines in their country? We should split this by country. Thanks very much to Branko Collins for getting this list started with UK and Dutch contacts. An alternative method would be to have volunteers volunteer to send out the press pack for their country to all relevant magazines. It would be a brilliant thing for LUGs to do to cut CDs of The GIMP 2.0 plus all of the extras for cover CDs. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] The GIMP Foundation
Daniel Rogers wrote: Avoid self-dealing. What's this? Be honest. Is this true of every board? Even Halliburton? 1. Will TGF have members? I am talking about members with voting privledges, like I described above. (my vote is yes, btw) Yes. 2. Should the membership be paid? (my vote is yes, for like $50 a year or some toher small amount. It helps for tax purposes). Why not - this is also common in France. That means setting up paypal I guess... Although the GNOME foundation have a membership policy which fits in better with the Open Source model - there is a membership committee, which considers applications for membership on a case-by-case basis based on participation in the community. Membership is reconsidered every 3 years, and is free. 3. Should the membership have additional rights? Aside from voting in the board? Meh... It would be useful to know who is interested in accepting the responsibilites of being a board member (or officer). Me. But a board can only work if the developers and the board work together towards the same goals, so to speak. If the board and the developers are in conflict, it'll bomb, or it'll be a PR disaster. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Press pack requests
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: "What is not in the plans is for Gimp to turn into a clone of Photoshop. For one thing, the resources of a large corporation like Adobe far outmatch what any free software team, working for the joy of programming, can contribute. Furthermore, the GIMP developers would prefer to create a program that works the way they feel is best, and not simply mimic some other, flaws and all. But, on the other hand, Gimp can already do many things that are difficult or impossible with Photoshop, and given the very accessible plug-in architecture of Gimp 2, its capabilities are ultimately limited only by the collective imagination of the community of free software contributors." I really like this paragraph, especially the last sentence and would like to see it resurrected. I agree that it could be rephrased and that it's bad to claim things you can't proof but it should have been sufficient to change that one sentence then. Can we perhaps put this back in? I don't like the paragraph at all for a press release. Perhaps just the "limited by the collective imagination..." part, but it's a bad idea to start comparing ourselves with photoshop at all in a press release. Plus, this isn't even positive language for the most part. We should just drop it, I think (except for the last half of the last sentence, which I've just added to the press release). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 3D Images
Hi Alf, Alf C Stockton wrote: I have a flat image to which I wish to add a border to make it look 3d. We heard you the last time :) Unfortunately these things take time sometime before people answer them. I would like the border to be outside the actual image so that all of the original image is still showing. There are a couple of ways you can make something look 3d, as you say - the easiest is with a drop shadow - cut away the background behind your image, then duplicate the layer, fill the non-transparent bits of the bottom copy with black, gaussian blur it with a decent sized radius and deplace it a few pixels below and to the right. An example of a drop shadow and some other basic 3d stuff is here: http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/ To add a different border, you can use a similar technique with a bump-map, and experiment with textures to get the kind of effect you'd like. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Setting reference points
Hi Timothy, Timothy Jedlicka bonzopad wrote: I'm planning on introducing my photoclub to The Gimp and one segment will be on color balance. Is there any way of doing this with Gimp? I was thinking maybe using guides, with snap-to-guide, but my snap "threshold" is apparently too low. Any other ideas? There are color-pickers (white, black and grey for all channels, and white andblack per channel (including the value channel) in the levels tool dialog. The grey tool is for selecting a grey point (that is, a point with gamma 0) - this is very useful for correcting colour casts where the colour cast is clearest on a light grey or dark grey. The white and black point color pickers do the same thing, except they fix the white and black points. This is all for 2.0 pre-releases, these functions are not available in 1.2.x. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation
Hi all, Sven Neumann wrote: Also, so far the FSF has done a great job at funding our developer conferences. So we should really have good reasons to form our own foundation since I don't expect the FSF to grant any more fundings as soon as The GIMP Foundation has been created. This is not a vote against the TGF; it's just something to keep in mind... I don't see why this should be the case, unless we have a sufficient revenu stream to fund ourselves. In any case, to have any revenu at all we need an organisation and a bank account, since a private individual accepting donations for a non-existent organisation isn't very professional or reassuring, never mind the fact that it opens up, as Dan said, channels of liability for the individual involved. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] mailing lists off
Hi Jack, jack g wrote: please take me off the mailing links You can take yourself off the mailing lists by going to the page "http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu";, and following the "list info" link. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Change ruler to inches.
Hi John, John Culleton wrote: The "Gimp Users Manual" is huge and hugely useful. But as the product continues to grow and change some update or addendum will be needed. "Grokking the Gimp" is more up to date but is also obsolete. An addendum would be easiest to prepare because it could be based on the change history. Yes - and unfortunately, the original authors of the GUM, as well as the author of Grokking the GIMP, are no longer with us. The gimp-help-2 project is an effort to re-do the GUM from scratch (more or less) and update it to GIMP 2.0. The ongoing result of that work is online at http://www.kuhcampus.de/~roman/gimp-help-2/C/ I do recognize the size of the effort involved. If someone furnishes me raw text and graphics I can do the typesetting. I'm not clear on what you're offerring here - but the offer is appreciated. Are you proposing typesetting if (eventually) the new manual is looking for a publisher? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Change ruler to inches.
raymond ostertag wrote: Le jeu 11/03/2004 à 14:58, Dave Neary a écrit : Yes - and unfortunately, the original authors of the GUM, as well as the author of Grokking the GIMP, are no longer with us. Are you sure for Carey Bunks ? I meet him last summer in Metz (RMLL2003) and he is always addicted to Gimp. Yup. But he doesn't hang around here any more (at least I haven't seen him on any of the user forums) - I haven't heard of any plans to update grokking either. Hope I'm wrong, though - CAREY!!! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Press pack
Hi all,
So, over the weekend I did some work on the press pack, mainly re-wording some
thing in the article (there are some things I removed too) to get to a 4 page
article. The article, with screenshots, is online at
http://scrappy.ath.cx/~bolsh/ - the article itself is in presspack.pdf (1.1MB),
the latex input file is in presspack.tex, and the screenshots for the article
are in that directory too. To re-generate the article, you'll need a recent tex
& latex version (I made it with RedHat 8), and you'll need to convert the pngs
to epss - I did this with
for i in *.png; do
convert $i ${i}.eps
done
So - there we go. I have a copy here, and I think it looks pretty good. The text
might need a bit more work, and if anyone wants to comment, they are free to do
so (currently the wiki is down, but I will put the revised text in a different
wiki page, WhatsNewBolshEdit, since I've changed quite a lot). Some of what I
removed were tutorial type key-sequences and some details which I didn't think
fitted well with an introduction article.
Currently there are creditted authors - I think in the final version there
shouldn't be. And the credits do not include the number of people who modified
or improved the wiki page, since I don't have that list.
So - there we go. Any reccommendations before 2.0 should go here, or to the wiki.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-user] installing gimp-2.0pre4
Hi, Andrew Langdon-Davies wrote: Having battled my way through configure, make and make install and having finally completed the process without any apparent error messages, Gimp-2 does not actually show up anywhere. What directory should it be in? If I do 'gimp', the old one starts up. All libraries are Mandrake-9.2 rpms. The old GIMP installs the binary gimp-1.2 and the new one installs gimp-1.3 (this will eventually be gimp-2.0). While we are not in a stable release, the gimp binary will be a symlink to gimp-1.2 - once we are stable, we will enable by default the option to have gimp point to gimp-2.0. So - to answer your question - the GIMP binary you're looking for is gimp-1.3 - if you want to have /usr/local/bin/gimp point at this, add the argument --enable-default-binary to your call to configure. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] installing gimp-2.0pre4
Hi, Andrew Langdon-Davies wrote: And now the nitty-gritty: I've installed the Epkowa iscan plug-in for epson scanners, but when I select it from the menu gimp-1.3 crashes as follows: GLib-ERROR **: could not allocate 1072693248 bytes aborting... (gimp-1.3:31399): Gimp-Plug-In-WARNING **: gimp-1.3: plug_in_flush(): error: Broken pipe plug_in_close: extension aborted before sending its extension_ack message (The same plug-in works fine with 1.2) Is this at start-up? This is a 3rd party plug-in, so it's not really supported by us. I can tell you that a 1.2 plug-in that you copy directly into the plug-ins directory of 1.3 will not work, since there have been incompatible API changes between 1.2 and 2.0. You should be able to compile a 1.2 plug-in for 2.0 almost unchanged if you add -DGIMP_ENABLE_COMPAT_CRUFT -D to your CFLAGS environment variable before you compile it with gimptool (however, take this statement with a pinch of salt). The plug-in author may prefer to port the plug-in to GTK+ 2.0, and take advantage of some of the helper widgets which have been added to libgimp since the 1.2 release, though. Hope this helps, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Questions about Gimp 2.0
Hi Tom, Tom Williams wrote: Anywho, I was wondering if/when the "Add Glow" and the "Perl-o-Tine" filters would be available, if ever, in Gimp 2.0? These are gimp-perl filters, and apparrently a pre-release of gimp-perl for 2.0 is planned to be made today or tomorrow. So I assume that GIMP::Perl-2 (or whatever naming convention CPAN uses for incompatibly versioned perl modules) will be available from CPAN sometime tomorrow. If I'm wrong here, I'm sure that Marc or Seth (the gimp-perl maintainers) will pipe up and say so. Hopefully even if I'm right :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: The GIMP 2.0.0
The GIMP Hits 2.0 The GIMP developers are proud to release version 2.0 of the GIMP, the leading free software tool for image manipulation. Berlin, Germany â March 23, 2004 â This release is a major event, marking the end of a three year development cycle by a group of volunteers and enthusiasts who have made this the most professional release of the GIMP ever. It is the first stable release that is officially supported not only on Unix-based operating systems, but also on Microsoft Windows and Macintosh OS X. "When you launch version 2.0 youâll see a new look thatâs a huge improvement over the previous versionâs mundane and purely functional interface. The new design not only provides a polished and comfortable feel, it is also far more intuitive and friendly than its predecessor." â Bruce Burgess, Newsforge, February 25, 2004. Started in 1995 by Spencer Kimball and Peter Mattis, the GIMP has evolved into a mature and powerful application. The latest release has major improvements in the user interface, making the GIMP more accessible for casual users as well as graphics professionals. The quality of the code base has also been substantially improved, making it easier for the open source community to contribute useful and high-quality add-ons to the GIMP. "This new version. . . fulfils its promise." "In general, the user interface is easier to use [and] more coherent. . . save screen real estate, all dialog boxes. . . can now be grouped together in one window using a tabbed interface. . . Soon you will have no more excuses for using Photoshop" â Linux Magazine France, March 2004. The GIMP is available as a free download from ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.0/v2.0.0/ or from one of the mirrors listed at http://gimp.org/download.html About The GIMP The GNU Image Manipulation Program, the GIMP, is ideal for amateur photographers, web designers, and many other people who want to create and edit digital images. It is a very powerful application, with features including: channels, layers and masks; colour operations such as levels, curves and threshhold; advanced selection operations using intelligent scissors and selection channels; and much more. GIMP is free software, which means it can be freely distributed and modified. This makes it well suited to be included on cover disks of magazines dedicated to digital photography or image editing, or to be included with digital cameras, scanners, printers etc. As free software, its capabilities are ultimately limited only by the collective imagination of the community of free software contributors. More information about the GIMP is available at http://www.gimp.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] New learning book available
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: May I ask then who is the author? I wasn't able to determine that from looking at the links you gave us. And I even understand french... You didn't click on the "Auteur" link - CÃdric is the author. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Only XCF filetype recognized by Gimp 2.0
Hi John, John Culleton wrote: I had compiled Gimp as root. I operate as a regular user. First I discovered that the owner and group of all the Gimp software was 500, and not either root or my user name (safe.) so I chowned everything in that directory to safe:users. Ooops... you must have a particularly restrictive umask. Usually 022 or 027 is better. However now I am having problems with Postscript: "Could not execute plug in Postscript (/usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/postscript) because it uses an obsolete version of the plug-in protocol." Weird. This looks like something that happened back in the pre-releases when the postscript plug-in was changed from ps to postscript, but people still had the old one hanging about. Perhaps this is an older plug-in? Alternatively, perhaps your plug-in cache hasn't updated - you might like to remove .gimp-2.0/pluginrc since this will be generated from actually requesting the plug-ins to register themselves. I will go back to square 1, recompile and reinstall and see if that clears up the current problem. To just recompile the postscript plug-in, you could remove the above file, and in plug-ins/common, make postscript; sudo make install-postscript. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Reply-to (was: Re: [Gimp-user] Import brushes from photoshop)
Hi Khiraly, Khiraly wrote: 2004-04-01, cs keltezéssel 16:19-kor Sven Neumann ezt írta: it would have probably been better to reply to the list... Sorry but your reply-to field was wrong ... There are very mixed views on the usage of reply-to for mailing list mail. Many people consider setting a reply-to impolite, since this can result in personal mail being sent to a public list. On the other hand, sending list mail to an individual is an easily correctible mistake. On the other hand, some list servers re-write headers of mail setting the reply-to to the mailing list address, which means that typically all mail sent to list mailers goes to the list, which is the other extreme. So it is inaccurate to say that the reply-to field was set "wrong", just that it wasn't set. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Is there a mean to display exif data from within the Gimp
Hi Jean, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: I would like to dispaly exif data from pictures I've got with a digital camera. I've not found if there is this feature implemented in The Gimp (if no, it would be nice). There is a patch for this which uses libexif-gtk (from the same source as libexif) in bugzilla which was not applied because it was felt that it was very specific to exif metadata when the goal should be a general metadata framework. Perhaps this was a mistake in hindsight... http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56443 (attachment ID 13329, partially applied). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to parse an .xcf file?
Hi Steve, Steve Litt wrote: What is the format for a .xcf file, and how do I parse it? xcf is a pure-binary format. It is documented in several places - 1) in devel-docs/xcf.txt in the GIMP's CVS 2) in app/xcf/*.[ch] - notably xcf.c/xcf.h which describe the file format and xcf-load and -save which do the reading/writing. 3) in ImageMagick's xcf filter (this will flatten your image and the floating selection, I believe) 4) On Cinepaint's website http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net in the docs section. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] What was used to create this graphic?
Hi, everyman outsourced wrote: I am a graphics newbe. I have to modify the text in the attached. Looks like a gradient was used but the text is reversed down to the pixel level in terms of color. All I need are the right tools in GIMP to edit the text. If you can reproduce the button sans text, you can duplicate the button layer, invert one of the duplicates, draw your text normally in black, and set (a copy of) the text layer as a layer mask on the inverted copy. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: What was used to create this graphic?
Hi, Steve Litt wrote: On Tuesday 11 May 2004 09:39 am, GSR - FR wrote: There is a simpler way: select a one pixel column in the left, just near the text then scale it horizontaly. Faster than pasting. :] Sounds great! How do you stretch it? Use the scale tool scaling only in one direction, with no interpolation. After copying and pasting the 1 column wide selection to its own layer. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background transparent?
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: "dreadnought" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Quick update .. I'm trying to use the bucket fill for the area I need to replace the white in. The bucket fill works perfect in the sense that it fills the correct area, but it fills it in red! You are most probably working in indexed colors mode and red is the closest available color. You should always work in RGB mode. Either that or yuou have turned off the green and blue channels by accident. If you *are* in RGB mode, you should check in the channels dock that all colour channels are selected. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Web content for GUADEC
Hi all, The GUADEC site is getting into shape now, and we've been asked if we have any web content (art, text, screenshots, info) that we would like to add to a GIMP page or pages on the site. I have been a bit strapped for time recently, so I would appreciate a hand with this - ideas about the kind of content we should have and actual content itself (links to images that show off the GIMP and screenshots, for example, as well as some text). I don't think it's a bad idea to duplicate some information off the main website (or the developer website, even) with links to our websites. I was thinking, in brief, that we should present a summary of the GIMP people giving talks, as well as a quick "About the GIMP" paragraph and some screenshots. Also some information about what we plan to do at the conference. How does this sound? If this sounds OK, can I ask people to start collecting that information? Who's up for it? Cheers, Dave. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gegl-developer] Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff
Hi, Michael Schumacher wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: To be a little more clear: I need volunteers to be an initial board of directors. Might be an important question: does one have to live in the US to be able to become a director? (and/or president, secreatary, treasurer, ...) No. For example, several of the GNOME Foundation board members are not in the US. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Some questions about Gimp.
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: "Nonexistent Entity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adobe OpenType is a new font standard developed jointly with MS, that has Type1 extra features and quality and is replacing TrueType. Pango supports OpenType rather well and GIMP uses Pango for font rendering so I wonder why it doesn't work for you. Perhaps it's the fact that he's using the GIMP 1.2.5. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Basic GIMP compilation question
Hi Barton, Barton Bosch wrote: First it looks like I need to update my GTK+ (2.2.1-4 installed). After I grabbed the newest GTK, GLib, Pango and ATK tar balls as well as GIMP 2.0.1, I realized that I don't know the procedure for updating an RPM with a program from source code. Being honest, if you really want to build from source code, you're better off building from RedHat 9 SRPMs using rpmbuild. There are srpms for everything you need on http://xach.com/gimp/rpms/ > Third my system lists a GLib2 2.2.1 package. Am I correct in assuming > that this is the GLib referred to on the GIMP installation help page (as > opposed to the glib 1.2.10-1 that is also installed on my system)? Is > this sufficiently new so as not to need updating for GIMP 2.0.1? That's the one you need, although 2.2.1 might be missing some fixes we rely on. You do need gtk+ >= 2.2.2 though, and we reccommend >= 2.2.4 since there are a number of important bug fixes in there. Both of those should build OK against glib 2.2.1, though. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshots
Hi Sven Sven Neumann wrote: David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I was just looking for some nice looking screenshots to show off on the GUADEC GIMP pages, and the best ones are all on developer.gimp.org The problem with the screenshots on dgo is that they are screenshots of the 1.3.x development version. Most of them clearly don't look like 2.0. It shouldn't be too difficult to redo these shots with an uptodate version. I am sure people will happily donate their screenshots. Not so clearly to me... I avoided using the text tool screenshot, since that changed quite a bit before the 2.0 release, but the macos and SVG screenshots are both close enough to 2.0 to make no difference. Also the brush preview screenshot is cool, and hasn't changed since. If people do update the dgo screenshots, where should they send them? brix or yourself? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshots
Hi Branko, Branko Collin wrote: On 4 May 2004, at 0:01, David Neary wrote: It would be really cool to have lots & lots of screenshots of the GIMP on www.gimp.org. Could someone from the web team take responsibility for this and publish an e-mail address where screenshots can be sent to be included on the site, please? If you want them, I could make a couple of screenshots. Of course we want them. Still waiting for someone to take ownership of the screenshots and say they'll put them up... failing that, Sven's suggesting to attach them to bug reports sounds sane. It'd be nice to have a personal tough though, someone to write back and say "thank you" to people who contribute like this. There is generally an email address where fans can send screenshots in projects like ours. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshots
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: > PS: Here are some screenshots of the HEAD branch: > > http://sven.gimp.org/gimp-new-image-dialog.png > http://sven.gimp.org/gimp-stroke-dialog.png > http://sven.gimp.org/gimp-canvas-size-dialog.png > > Remember that this is not the final dialog layout, we are just > playing with new stuff... These look great! mitch and yourself have been doing great stuff :) has there been any progress with respect to screenshots? Thus far, no-one on the web team has said anything about the matter. It would be nice if someone would say "sure, send screenshots to me". I don't feel comfortable changing anything in the gimp-web module any more. For what it's worth, I do not have any problem with nice, but out of date, screenshots being on www.gimp.org - for example, we had a lot of screenshots from the 1.1 series on www.gimp.org before the migration. In fact, devel screenshots are a great way to get people building the HEAD. I don't know when it became policy to only have screenshot from stable versions on wgo - but I'm against that policy. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshots
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: For what it's worth, I do not have any problem with nice, but out of date, screenshots being on www.gimp.org - for example, we had a lot of screenshots from the 1.1 series on www.gimp.org before the migration. In fact, devel screenshots are a great way to get people building the HEAD. I don't know when it became policy to only have screenshot from stable versions on wgo - but I'm against that policy. We discussed this before doing switching to the new web-site. IMO it is essential that tutorials and screenshots on www.gimp.org consistently show the current stable version since that's what the site is all about. I disagree. I think that www.gimp.org is a site for GIMP users, and that includes bleeding edge users. developer.gimp.org is a site for GIMP developers, at least that was my understanding of the motivation behind it. The screenshot section on developer.gimp.org exists exactly for the purpose of getting people to build the HEAD branch. IMHO the screenshot section on www.gimp.org should have a link to the development screenshots but it should show the stable version only. If I'm correct above, what you are saying is that the HEAD branch is only for developers, which I disagree with. If this isn't what you're saying then I misunderstood the reason for the creation of dgo. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshots
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thus far, no-one on the web team has said anything about the matter. It would be nice if someone would say "sure, send screenshots to me". I don't feel comfortable changing anything in the gimp-web module any more. Well, I am afraid that it won't work that way. If you or me feel that the screenshots on www.gimp.org need work, then it's up to you or me to do something about it. It was made very clear to me that my help wasn't wanted with the website. In those conditions, I'm not going to put myself out. There are plenty of things for me to do besides. That's not going to stop me making comments on where I think things could be improved though. We don't turn away bug reports without patches - opening a bug report is helping already. Likewise, if the screenshots section of the site needs work, I'm not going to think to myself "better not say that the screenshots section of the site needs work because I'm not welcome on the web team". If the web-site concerns you, then you should be willing to touch it. If you aren't willing to do any changes to gimp-web CVS module, then you should IMO refrain from asking for changes. Doing so only shows disrespect for the people working on the site. Does asking for changes to be made to the GIMP show disrespect for mitch or yourself or any of the other people working on the GIMP? I really don't follow this point. I'll repeat it - I'm happy to help out occasionally on the website. I have lots of other things to do, though, so if I'm not welcome, I'm not going to do anything. In any case, I don't think that I would be able to provide very good screenshots. However, I'm sure there are lots of power users out there who would love to, and currently they don't have anyone to send screenies to. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
