Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 26, 2015, at 11:37 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > Here's one: transparent inductive charging. If we're dreaming, it's a wonderful dream. I don't think it's a very realistic dream, but it's certainly wonderful. As a bonus...going from inductive charging while parking to inductiv

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 12:18 PM, paul dove via EV wrote: > When I built mine I did a spread sheet. Any chance you have a copy handy and would be willing to share? Because of the nature of the project, I'm not overly worried about battery range, but it's always better to refine expectations when p

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Lee Hart wrote: > Ben Goren via EV wrote: >>> The URL posted for the car indicates that the hub motor(s) are sprung. >> Huh? How on Earth is _that_ supposed to work? > > One way is to have a long shaft on the motor. It acts like a swing

Re: [EVDL] Wheels for efficient vehicle.

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Roland wrote: > The best way we did this when we were road rally racing, is to ink the tire > and than lower it on a white plastic cover board. I understand that most track racing uses pyrometers or infrared cameras or the like to see which parts of the tire are h

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Michael Kadie via EV wrote: > The correlation between weight and efficiency is true below 45 mph in general. That makes sense, and it's good news for my PHEV conversions...all-electric mode is going to be mostly around town and mostly at or below 45 MPH. Which mea

Re: [EVDL] Wheels for efficient vehicle.

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Roland via EV wrote: > If you use a open spoke wheel that allows air to go thru the wheel, it is > recommended to install a aluminum deflection plate about 0.125 inch thick > that goes between the wheel and the axil flange, to prevent the air to go > thru the wheel

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 10:02 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: > The rule of thumb is weight / 10. Oooh -- that's a very useful suggestion. How much does aerodynamics change that? In particular, I'm thinking of a 1964 1/2 Mustang with, I think, roughly a 0.5 cd. Final weight, though, should be roughly

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
e long-range > EV4the masses > > Maybe they have short axles and aren't truly hub motors? > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Ben Goren via EV" > To: "Willie2" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > > Sent: 18-May-15

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 18, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > The URL posted for the car indicates that the hub motor(s) are sprung. Huh? How on Earth is _that_ supposed to work? b& ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.or

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses

2015-05-17 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Huh? Why the pessimism? EVWest sells complete VW conversion kits, including a 22 kWh battery pack, for $19K. That leaves 4K for the sled -- more than enough. b& On May 17, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > Good luck with that... > > On 5/17/2015 3:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] Inexpensive retiree-friendly EV?

2015-05-17 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 10, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Danpatgal via EV wrote: > Low mile 2012 iMiev's are listed anywhere from $7.5 to $10k. I planted the bug after I drove them back from the airport last night. We'll see what, if anything it develops into...but I'm pretty sure it's now on their short list...and I don

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 14, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > dump pack Thinking this through a bit more...I'm not sure that it would make sense for a rapid-charging station to operate without a substantial dump pack of its own. Without one, you're left needing a grid connection able

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 14, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I'd guess that one nightmare scenario for the utilities is for everyone in > the ritzy neighborhood to arrive home with their Teslas, and plug them all > into their superchargers at the same time! Indeed, that may well be a significant par

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 14, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > My guess: I think the demand for roadside charging will be fairly high as > (another guess) 30%-50% of the residences will not have access to domestic > charging - because they are in a multistory dwelling with few (or no) off > street

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 14, 2015, at 6:35 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 13 May 2015 at 10:58, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > >> 15 kWh / 15 minutes is 60 kilowatts...not quite the level of >> insanity of a megawatt, but still in a range far beyond what you'd ever see >>

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Jamie K via EV wrote: > It's the outliers that you have to accommodate. Yes, but not necessarily with rapid charging. When 200-mile ranges become the norm, as is promised soon -- say, a 40 kWh (usable) battery in a (conservative) 200 Wh / mile car -- the situation

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Jamie K via EV wrote: > I'm coming from a perspective of practical experience with an electric car as > our main vehicle. The big factor you left out is daily driving mileage. If you're putting 80 miles a day on the car, yes, L1 is probably borderline at best for y

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Jamie K via EV wrote: > But real range needs are based on maximums. I'd agree with that. And I hope I'm not coming across as suggesting that in-home L1 charging is the only way that an EV would ever be charged. My point is that most people don't need more than L1

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Jamie K via EV wrote: > Ben, on the subject of L1 chargers being good enough for nearly everybody and > L2 being overkill, I would ask "based on what data"? Sorry...I had in mind overnight home charging, with the assumption that the 20 kWh you get from 12 hours @

[EVDL] SolaRoad cycle path electricity yield exceeds expectations

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Interesting potential source of future EV energy: http://phys.org/news/2015-05-solaroad-path-electricity-yield.html I'm a bit skeptical, though...by its very nature, anything put on the road is going to have to be a lot more durable and therefore expensive than what you'd put on a rooftop. Sti

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: UK's 1000hp 1975 Electric Enfield (v)

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I thought that torque was calculated/measured at the wheels It can be measured anywhere, but is typically specified at the output shaft of the motor (whether electric or ICE) unless otherwise noted, for the simple reason that geari

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > So I think the engineers need to put their thinking caps on, reduce the > weight of every vehicle, make the CD of all new vehicles .16 or so and stop > making these energy hogs. That's definitely where a good deal of engineering effo

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: UK's 1000hp 1975 Electric Enfield (v)

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 13, 2015, at 12:12 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Later in the weekend, the team turned up the wick and the car sprinted > through the quarter mile in 12.56 seconds at 101.43 mph. Quite respectable in and of itself, and most impressive in a car that started life as the antithesis of fast!

Re: [EVDL] pouch cells

2015-05-12 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 12, 2015, at 12:33 PM, ken via EV wrote: > How are they for $ vs. power density. Middle of the road, and a lot more than a LEAF battery from Hybrid Auto Center. They're also rather below average in terms of $ / max discharge rate, and on the heavy side. b& _

Re: [EVDL] Inexpensive retiree-friendly EV?

2015-05-10 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Very interesting...there's a 2012 w/ 15k miles listed not far from here for just under $9k; Leafs look like they tend to be at least half again as much. Something like that belongs on a short list. Thanks! b& On May 10, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Danpatgal via EV wrote: > Our iMiev has served us real

Re: [EVDL] StoreDot promises electric car that charges in 5 minutes

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 8, 2015, at 4:11 PM, len moskowitz via EV wrote: > StoreDot promises electric car that charges in 5 minutes There's some industrial-grade technobabble in that article. Be wonderful if there's some substance to the claims, of course, but I'm not holding my breath. The racing crowd will c

Re: [EVDL] Tesla's powerwall is already sold out through mid 2016

2015-05-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 7, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Whether we argue that it makes sense financially, people are jumping in the > frey. That is fantastic news for _everybody!_ If even the Gigafactory can't keep up, that tells you something huge about demand...and means that there will be

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: WA Loves Electric Cars, But Gets Very Few

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 6, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > Are there any additional policies you have in mind to help level the playing > field? It's not something I've given much thought to...and, honestly? Anything I'd suggest would be politically unrealistic given how entrenched the fossi

Re: [EVDL] Inexpensive retiree-friendly EV?

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 6, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I don't follow your reasoning. There are reasons not to like a lease but the > fixed income aspect is not usually one of them. In fact, often it's the > opposite: people on fixed incomes like leases because they are predictable > and t

Re: [EVDL] Inexpensive retiree-friendly EV?

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
7;m leasing a Smart ED for > $124/mo with $250 down. A Smart's not the best freeway car but it's great > around town. I've seen deals on Leafs for under $250/month. > > --Rick > > On 05/06/2015 04:50 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: >> So, my parents are okay. B

[EVDL] Inexpensive retiree-friendly EV?

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
So, my parents are okay. But, apparently, their '89 Lincoln Town car might not be...somebody pulled out of a driveway in front of them faster than could be avoided...resulting in smoke coming from the engine compartment and suspected possible frame damage. So...if the insurance company winds up

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: WA Loves Electric Cars, But Gets Very Few

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 6, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > Presumably more choices will mean more cars. One size never fits all. And there's another factor. Our market is capitalistic, yes, but far from an actual free market. This is a good thing; monopolies are an inevitable result of a free

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Enclosed human-electric hybrid spins around the UCF campus

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
permission.". In suburbia you > may want to find more of the 25mph roads, but it really gets you across > intersections, up to speed from a dead stop, and up hills in a way no HPV > only bike can do. On 25mph residential streets you will almost never hold up > car traffic. >

Re: [EVDL] virtual power plant (battery backup thinking)

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 5, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Cruisin via EV wrote: > Why not buy a Volt 16.5kwh battery and add your own inverter for a backup. > That's what my customers are doing. Where does one actually buy a Volt battery? I've looked a couple times without much success. I suspect it might be well worth con

Re: [EVDL] virtual power plant

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 4, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > They won't be pro-rating the warranty? There's no mention of any proration on their Web site. It'd be a pretty bad PR move to omit a detail like that on the publicity page only to slip it in on the fine print, so I rather suspect it's not pr

Re: [EVDL] virtual power plant

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 4, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > After 10 years of daily full-cycling, I am presuming that the value of the > pack > and the 10-year old electronics is approaching zero I don't think that's a valid assumption in this case. Tesla is including a ten-year warranty, mea

Re: [EVDL] virtual power plant

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 4, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Again, the most optimal case would be that you can shift the full 10kWh each > day, which > would yield $2.60 per day or $950 per year. > In 10 years that would give you $9,500 which is about the money you invested > in a 10kW > syste

Re: [EVDL] virtual power plant

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 4, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I mean 8 Amps at around 400V is not an EV power level, it is actually rather > underwhelming - I wonder why Tesla with a profile of high-power application > is releasing such a low power spec. A "nominal" 5.8A @ 400V is comparable to a

Re: [EVDL] virtual power plant

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 4, 2015, at 10:20 AM, robert winfield via EV wrote: > dont forget aggregating, say, 1,000 of these 10kW Powerwalls into a 10 > megawatt virtual power plant VPP, (or any multiplier) for microgrids of > distributated generation That's part of the frustration of the idiocy of the utilities

Re: [EVDL] Tesla will sell the home battery, the Tesla Powerall, for $3, 500,

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 4, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > Think decades. But that's just it. Power plants are intended to have a lifespan of decades, and to be profitable over that lifespan. Even if it takes 20 years to ramp up battery production...well, if you decided today to build a new nuclear

Re: [EVDL] Tesla will sell the home battery, the Tesla Powerall, for $3, 500,

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Here's the link: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2015/05/01/did-tesla-just-kill-nuclear-power/ Key point: Tesla is set to sell utility-scale batteries to utilities for, as the article puts it, about $0.02 / kWh. Filling those batteries from renewables costs less than just running a nucl

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Enclosed human-electric hybrid spins around the UCF campus

2015-05-03 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 3, 2015, at 12:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The Human Assisted Electric Vehicle could reach speeds of up to 40 mph and > has a range of about 50 miles. The entire vehicle cost about $4,000 to > produce. Velomobiles are wonderful, as are electric-assist velomobiles. I'm not so sure the

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system

2015-05-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 6:24 PM, jim via EV wrote: > Regarding possible life of a lead acid battery system, we are on our 3rd lead > acid battery for our wind and solar home power system. Might you be willing to spare a few more details? Specifically...things like how the array is sized, especially

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system (backup foolishness)

2015-05-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 11:25 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 1 May 2015 at 16:24, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > >> Lithium is probably already at the 80/20 rule for technical performance >> compared with nickel-iron...and it's a lot cheaper. > > This puzzles

[EVDL] ACEA: Alternative Fuel Vehicle registrations - +28.8% in first quarter - Automotive World

2015-05-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
http://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/acea-alternative-fuel-vehicle-registrations-28-8-first-quarter/ Nothing in there about how the proportions of the fleet are changing. Good that EVs are up...but are ICEs up, as well? Are there just more cars on the road altogether, or is the fleet a

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system (backup foolishness)

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > You'd also murder a lithium pack in a few years, if you deeply discharged it > every day. Not if you've got a smart BMS that prevents you from murdering it and instead reports that the battery is empty regardless of how much remaining charge

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > You would not *believe* how badly some of them are made, because the seller > knows you discover it is junk until too late! Yet another spectacularly missed opportunity by the utilities. Had they a clue, they'd be the leading installer and m

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > For people on ToU, the unit can make sense even without solar, by simply > load-shifting from > expensive hours to cheap (nighttime) tariff That is, indeed, how Tesla appears to be marketing this. Essentially, as a way for homeowners

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lev Lvovsky via EV wrote: > Even with that though, how is $5k possible? Tesla is a 500-pound gorilla looking to become an 800-pound gorilla. b& -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-sig

Re: [EVDL] Tesla plugs into new market with home battery system

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On May 1, 2015, at 9:34 AM, via EV wrote: > While Lithium batteries make a lot of sense for vehicles where energy density > to weight is a big deal, I'm not sure of the advantage for stationary > installations. Cost for Lithium is still a big issue. An ~40kWh pack of > deep cycle, lead acid

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Tom Martin via EV wrote: >> >> The state in turn sent you a 'Certificate' of title. The auto you bought >> and paid for is the property of the state. > > Huh? > > The Certificate of Title establishes

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 28, 2015, at 1:56 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > This is not quite the same as the Leaf battery model cited, I guess, but > it's a similar principle: make it more difficult for the independent > mechanic or private owner to service the battery. It also is making the idea of buy

Re: [EVDL] its your car, not theirs

2015-04-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > being the devil's advocate... > > This is clearly not great for the poor or the DIY'r, but the new car buyer > may have much better cars to choose from, I expect instead of 200K miles > being common, 100K was a great thing when I was youn

Re: [EVDL] EV Boat

2015-04-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 26, 2015, at 6:06 PM, George McNeir via EV wrote: > In effect, those with knowledge of the Navitas NPS600 motor controller, > eCycle electric motors, super cap/battery amalgamations, advanced alkaline > fuel cells, thin/flexible PV modules, internal grid power distribution DC > networks

Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted> pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

2015-04-26 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 26, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Either something huge is missing from the story or we're seeing incredibly > poor judgment by police officers. Alas, I fear the only thing "missing" is a realization that this sort of shit goes on all the time, and it's only quite rare

[EVDL] Can Automakers Legally Stop You From Working On Your Car?

2015-04-25 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Not specific to EVs, except insofar as they're coming of age at the same time as the automakers are trying to follow in the computer industry's footsteps. http://www.hotrod.com/news/1504-can-automakers-legally-stop-you-from-working-on-your-car/ Homebrew conversions are going to have a great de

[EVDL] Japan showcases really, really fast … whoa, WTF was that?! • The Register

2015-04-25 Thread Ben Goren via EV
I don't remember if trains fall within the limits of discussion set forth by the charter or not...but, either way, this is *way* cool news about an electric vehicle: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/22/japan_train/ I have no idea how practical or economical it might be for Japan or the Sta

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Twitter-Acct hacked> *Bogus Free-Tesla offer

2015-04-25 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Let's hope Tesla's engineers are better at securing their over-the-air updates than their PR department is at securing their social media accounts b& On Apr 25, 2015, at 4:18 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > http://mashable.com/2015/04/25/hackers-tesla-twitter-account/ > Hackers briefly

Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

2015-04-24 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 24, 2015, at 6:03 AM, Russ Sciville via EV wrote: > Who would wish to drive around with a hydrogen tank in the back pressurised > to 10,000 psi? There's lots of insanity associated with FCVs, but fuel safety isn't part of it. Hydrogen is much safer than gasoline in that regards. Not tha

Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

2015-04-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:10 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 24 Apr 2015 at 1:08, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > >> Eventually people will wise up to the taxes, aka subsidies, needed to >> support a fuel cell auto industry when they start wondering where >> their tax payments are going. Ed

Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

2015-04-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 23, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > It seems like the hydrogen conversion is still likely to create CO2. How > does the hydrogen cycle reduce air pollution from using methane? Exactly. I'm sure the FCV has negligible _tailpipe_ emissions compared with one that runs on

Re: [EVDL] Tell Toyota what you think of their Fool cell vehicle

2015-04-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > [T]his industry has put it into law that you can get > credits for providing a zero-emission long range vehicle[] I think it would make the contrast between BEVs and FCVs much starker if the requirement wasn't tailpipe emissions

Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV runs on Musk's bull$$it

2015-04-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > You should also watch Toyota’s new video which says the car can run on Elon > Musk’s “bull$$it ”comments and show how they can take cow manure, and > process it to hydrogen.. all they have to do is add “steam and heat”. I made as far

Re: [EVDL] Cmax solar concept.

2015-04-22 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > I don't think any of the above are deal breakers, especially if the car can > automatically roll down it's windows while charging under full sun. Yes, you're right. Those aren't the deal breaker. The deal breaker is that you need a speci

[EVDL] ~43% Of World's Electric Cars Bought In 2014 | CleanTechnica

2015-04-20 Thread Ben Goren via EV
I do believe this is what a tipping point looks like: http://cleantechnica.com/2015/04/19/43-of-worlds-electric-cars-bought-in-2014/ b& -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-X Spied w/ a Tow Hitch AWD r:225mi (v)

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 14, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > It is likely the Tesla cars can pull it just fine, but will probably > overheat towing, especially on hills. Towing packages for trucks have all > manner of extra cooling gear, for transmission, oil coolers, oversize > radiators, and so

Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] EVLN: Tesla-S 85kWh> evfleetworld Road Test

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
No doubt the Tesla is an impressive car, but your first two points aren't all that impressive... On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > - Driving in the dark, the headlights are very impressive. Go around a > corner and the car lights up around the corner. My parents's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-X Spied w/ a Tow Hitch AWD r:225mi (v)

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 14, 2015, at 5:40 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > In any case, don’t get your hopes up too high on a truly versatile towing > capacity because electric power isn’t similar to a traditional engine’s > twist. Huh? Range questions aside, an electric vehicle with ~700 HP / ft-lbs should absolu

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-08 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 8, 2015, at 6:36 AM, tomw via EV wrote: > Nothing in his lab's list of peer-reviewed publications on this topic: > > http://dailab.stanford.edu/pubs.htm My friend was able to get me a copy of the Nature article. The short version...is that I won't be replicating their work at home. Howe

[EVDL] Bosch uses UX approach to spark enthusiasm for electric driving - Putting people first

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
I really don't think I like the idea of where they're headed: http://www.experientia.com/blog/bosch-uses-ux-approach-to-help-spark-enthusiasm-for-electric-driving/ One thing I think we can all agree upon here: if the "hunch mode" http://www.bosch.com/boschglobal/userexperience/the-smart-way-to

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Your needs may differ but, for me, unequivocally the charge time is more > important. I'm not discounting the importance of charge time. It's just my understanding that the batteries today aren't the limiting factor in charging. Actually

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Time will tell if we soon will have a 1-minute rechargeable battery ...and a 1-minute *dischargeable* battery. That's probably an even bigger deal than the charge time. Right now, charging times seem to be limited on all sorts of

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
I've no clue. I'm assuming they're making it using some sort of chemical reaction, presumably one not entirely unlike those ones chemistry teachers love to demonstrate with the carbon snakes boiling out of the beakers when they mix two colorless liquids. ...I think I'm going to see if the resea

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 7, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > the electrolyte is not specified other than the phrase "intercalation of > chloroaluminate anions in the graphite" I see that in the abstract...is that what you're referring to, or do you have the full article? I've asked a friend w

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
kilogram compared to lithium's 100 to 206 W/kg power density--so you'd need > more of them to get the same power. That might get better as they improve > the cells, of course. > > Bill > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org]

Re: [EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Indeed...I just checked the abstract and it cites 70 mAh/g. It's an unfair comparison because of all the extra hardware from the box and what-not, but a CALB 180 Ah battery weighs 5.6 kg, which works out to 32 mAh/g. That they're in the same order of magnitude tells me this may well be competiti

Re: [EVDL] Michelin radial 95/80 r16 radial

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 7, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > The Michelin radial 95/80 r16 radial is the tire used by solar racing teams. > Anyone know where to get them? I'd first directly contact one of the teams that you know used said tire and ask them where they got theirs. Next, Micheli

[EVDL] Aluminum battery from Stanford offers safe alternative to conventional batteries

2015-04-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Does anybody know any more about this research? http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/march/aluminum-ion-battery-033115.html Aluminum anode; graphite cathode. Unspecified salt for the electrolyte. It's only about two volts. The rest of the specs are vague...nothing at all about capacity. They cla

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > ​I more or less agree with what you're ​saying - as long as there is still > a choice. To be clear: I am most emphatically _*NOT*_ suggesting that all vehicles, or even all new vehicles be roboticized. I'm just suggesting that there're

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > And there is no AI system sufficiently advanced to make the right > decision in every case. Your objections are a classic example of making the perfect the enemy of the good. In order to improve traffic safety, self-driving cars don't h

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: > Maybe these same people would accept some sort of artificial intelligence > program which would analyse their facebook postingsand social media and > automatically vote for them in elections. I'm not sure if you're being sarcasti

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV wrote: > The day Im forced to get into a self driving car is when I take my shot gun > and blow it away . the very thought if a SDC makes me vomit Even a robotic taxi? For example, in a city you've flown to? b& --

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:10 AM, tomw via EV wrote: > Don't know if this is the actual case, but I think it would > be easy for the management at Tesla to develop group think, forgetting that > most U.S. citizens don't live in silicon valley and work in high tech, and > overestimating the appeal and a

[EVDL] The Tesla Factor: Elon Musk Will Force Auto Industry To Roll Out Self-Driving Cars Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

2015-04-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Food for thought: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyanwyl/2015/04/02/evidence-of-forces-behind-the-tesla-factor-at-this-weeks-new-york-auto-show/?ss=tech I tend to think he's right. I also think that the first long-haul trucking company to adopt self-driving rigs will thereby become the domin

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Renters hit roadblocks to get EVSE installed, help from eVgo

2015-04-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Apr 5, 2015, at 3:40 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Renters have a hard time finding electric charging stations in their > apartment buildings. In a way, these sorts of growing pains are a good sign. It means that EV adoption is penetrating to the point that it's not just a few crazy nutjobs

Re: [EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

2015-04-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
the title of "first megawatt all-electric race > car" went to the Maniac Mazda over a decade ago... > > -Ben > > On Apr 1, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > >> Seems reasonably legit. Nothing about it seems unreasonable. >> >> http://driv

Re: [EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

2015-04-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Seems reasonably legit. Nothing about it seems unreasonable. http://driveeo.com/blog/racing/eo-pp03-one-megawatt-electric-race-car/ The "pp03" refers to "Pike's Peak #3," and they ran it last year and the year before: http://driveeo.com/pikes-peak/pp02/ http://driveeo.com/pikes-peak/pp01/ b&

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-31 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: > Micro-hydro remains the most economical, trouble-free way for anyone with a > stream and 100+ feet of head to obtain electric power. Granted, only a small > minority meet those specifications, but I would submit that most of those are >

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-31 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Ben, if you can install enough batteries, as I believe you have, to go > completely off the grid, then of course there's no advantage to the power > company. I don't have batteries yet and no plans to install them until the finances ti

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-31 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Thus, if the power companies were to continue to charge the same rate for > electricity from pumped storage, they are making a better ROI than from > building out new traditional power plants. Your analysis passes the "sniff test" for

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-31 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > So called small wind energy is a money pit with no > real payback - you need an exceptional location for a small turbine to be > worth the effort. Wind and hydro are just diluted forms of solar. On a planetary scale, they can't even beg

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I am sure that he won't start until things are clearer for him and he is > getting > our input for just that - advice in which direction to go. Well...in that case, my advice would be an awful lot of budgeting -- energy, weight, mon

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 3:06 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > But overall, the amount of power you can get from the sun in a normal-sized > is very limited. That pretty much forces you to concentrate on vehicle > efficiency. Extremely light, with exceptionally good aerodynamics and very > high efficie

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 1:49 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > I say more power (sorry ;-) to Lawrence and wish him the best. I > wish I lived nearby, so I could watch and cheer him on. There's a big part of me that wants to wish him the best with the project...but there's an even bigger pa

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I am able to reduce my foot print and I chose to do that using > an EV and buying green electricity... That's why, when I put a bunch of panels on my roof some years back, I intentionally oversized it so I could power an EV and still

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Well, it might make sense for the special-case commute where your pack isn't > large enough to make a round trip but, with solar panels charging during the > day, you "top off" enough to get home. ...and then, when it's cloudy...you're

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > There is a case for cars that get used very little (infrequent or very short > drives) and can be parked in full sun > > (like on a parking deck top floor, no trees or other buildings) so you can > gain charge over time, about 5 hou

Re: [EVDL] Making solar work in a conventional vehicle.

2015-03-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > It is simple: measure the surface area of the car and multiply by the > expected PV efficiency, > then you know why a Solar Racer needs full sun overhead most of the day *and* > be an extreme car > to achieve any speed or range. ..

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: LEAF EV Pack Reliability Outperforms Cynics & Critics (?)

2015-03-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 27, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Roland via EV wrote: > The maximum battery running temperature was 68 degrees F Just to be clear...you're reporting the weather, right? You're telling us that, during the time you used the car that you're telling us about, the battery never heated above 68°F, and

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Electric Bigfoot #20 @2015 VIAS.ca

2015-03-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Mar 27, 2015, at 3:49 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Zero-emission monster truck can stomp with the best of the them I've never gotten the monster truck thing...but is is good for EVs in general. Anything that get somebody afflicted with testosterone poisoning to end an article with: > This

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