Re: [EVDL] Battery post - Best Practice

I personally wouldn't trust the 5/16 bolts for anything more than what my tractor dishes out. (Maybe 200A briefly, flexy cables.) Even then I'm very careful not to over-torque the nuts and check them regularly. 550 amps and stiff 2/0 cable is a recipe for a melted post. L posts or automotive

Re: [EVDL] Vectrix bankruptcy auction June 18

I'd be interested to know if any intellectual property is available for sale. Could be very handy for someone who wants to make a small business keeping existing Vectrixes running to have access to drawings and other design documentation. I also wonder about their patents. If no one buys the

Re: [EVDL] Vectrix bankruptcy auction June 18

: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tromley via EV Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:22 PM To: Lee Hart; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Vectrix bankruptcy auction June 18 I'd

Re: [EVDL] article: Holy s##t! – the amazing Zero SR electric motorcycle blows our minds

Wait til they try the Mission R https://www.mission-motorcycles.com/r or the Lightning SuperBike http://lightningmotorcycle.com/. They won't know what hit them. Chris On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Paul Wujek via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: A review of the most recent Zero:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: spectrum.ieee looks @Tesla-X and its fabulous Falcon-Doors

Those are more generally known as gullwing doors, and Tesla should stop wasting time on them. Sealing can be done, but that's not their main problem. You have to duck under them to enter/exit. If you don't, you whack your head. Since getting into the back of a Tesla X will be a fairly uncommon

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota Drops RAV4-EV-gen2, shifting to h2

Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled. 1. Last I heard a practical FCV was not possible until some Brand New Stuff was invented, and no one knew if/how/when that would happen. 2. Last I heard there was no way to create H2 that was anywhere near as efficient as

Re: [EVDL] Leaning narrow vehicle.

On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: I don't know if any of you have seen the iLean concept bike. It uses bicycle cranks to make a leaning effect. I was thinking of doubling up the rear wheels using 4 20 inch hub motors. 72v. 80mph top speed. 8

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: Hello Cor, I have seen a dust to dust comparison of the inputs necessary to have a particular mdoel of car. snip Interesting and not surprising to many EV types, the Prius was found slightly less

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Danpatgal via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: I agree a larger pack (to get say another 20 miles) would be really nice, that's what I'd ask for before anything else. Dan, Just out of curiosity, can you put on your what if hat and tell me if there's a way to have

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: We currently have a very business pliant legislature, they are accepting allowing the exact formulations and nature of the chemicals used to be kept secret - even suggesting that revealing them would be a felony. Yes,

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals lugs

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: As was posted, in either case (L or the Universal post) I had to be careful when tightening: only to a point that did not mash the soft lead too much. After the initial pack break in and connection

Re: [EVDL] fool cells

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM, nicklogan via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: It would not surprise me to learn that Toyota has a very active electric vehicle development program that they they choose to keep under wraps. Why come out with an EV now that could undercut Prius sales? Possible,

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Really, as creative as it is, can it be more effective than a bicycle mechanism? You'd be surprised. Any crank mechanism is rather limited in efficiency. At the top and bottom of the stroke it doesn't matter how

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Smart Fortwo EV's Resiliency Safety (videos)

On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Have you any evidence to suggest there is a problem with rear impact performance? MW I agree with Martin that there is no reason to believe there would be any problems with a rear-end crash until we see one.

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Dennis, I can see that for working on the guts of the car, but for changing the tires? C'mon, I can't believe that even OSHA would be that much of a stickler. Regulations frequently have a period of awkward

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

I have no trouble believing such an onerous regulation exists. One has to wonder however, what astoundingly difficult certification is required to work on cars that carry enough explosive liquid fuel to destroy an entire building and everyone in it. You must have to study and train for years to

Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

I also agree we should limit discussion of FCEVs. There will certainly be leaks on the list about major new advances. When FCEVs appear to be on a similar energy-footprint basis (i.e. energy-viable) as EVs we can revisit the issue. To respond to one poster's observation about the invective seen

Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

My take on this is that the zinc is redundant. I use petroleum jelly. Certainly not a conductor. At a microscopic level each metal surface in the joint has pronounced peaks and valleys. Only the peaks touch. The grease, being a fluid, displaces to fill the voids and the many localized pressure

Re: [EVDL] Motoped ebike

On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Gary Krysztopik via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I'm building one of these with a single-engine drive and here is a beautiful twin-engine build by Matt, who I bought my drive from. http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28t=62040 Gary Catching up

Re: [EVDL] Protecting DC PWM Controller from low inductance/resistance motors

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Adam Chasen via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: One solution is to use the clutch in the Leopard to ensure there is no starting load on the motor. I still measured inrushes of 300A with no load! That will not work for my directly coupled 1989 BMW. I am curious if

Re: [EVDL] Cargo bike with electric chain.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dennis Miles via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Now with a battery of sufficient capacity and using the pedals as a Range Extender you could ride with only the battery or pedal as hard as you wanted to achieve a real aerobic work-out. That depends on your goal

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A new study brings an old topic back to the forefront: how much range is enough, and is it better to use battery advancements to decrease price without improving range or make electric vehicles go further on a charge?

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I think with the relatively recent CAFE (fuel economy) rules adopted by the EPA we will see a gradual change. I'm hoping that change will accelerate if Tesla and others can produce a 200+ mile range SUV or light

Re: [EVDL] 270.224 mph at Bonneville

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Plenty planes that can't go as fast as this monster on wheels! ​Just to sharpen the point, it's technologically MUCH less challenging to get something to fly at 270 mph than to ​get something to roll on the

Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

I think you're fighting a losing battle. Different alloys have an influence, but not enough to overcome the fact that copper has roughly twice the conductivity (both electrical and thermal) of aluminum. You'll need twice the cross-sectional area in aluminum as you would need with copper to

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

​Being a product development​ engineer, this strikes me as a HUGE project. Even if you're not looking for professional results. I sense that you understand this is not something you'll be able to toss off in a weekend, but the key issue as I see it is this - how much time and effort will you need

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

I agree completely. However, there was a passing mention in the original post about Otmar's Stretchla. I would think Otmar would have no problem signing such a document. So what's up, Otmar? Has your drive line upgrade hit a snag? Chris On Sep 28, 2014 8:33 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV

Re: [EVDL] Really efficient electric drive trains and what they are?

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: When I saw the Stella it made growling ticking noises that stopped after the vehicle made some speed. They said these motors were 98 % efficient. I thought the run of the mill ADC motor with a Curtis controller

Re: [EVDL] DC-DC Cooling

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, John Lussmyer via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I think I'm going to have to figure out how to water cool my DC-DC. I built this one using 4 Vicor 20A bricks to get a 80A capable unit. It all fits on the back of a 6 square 2 thick heatsink with a 6 fan on it.

Re: [EVDL] DC-DC Cooling

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM, John Lussmyer via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Tue Oct 07 21:33:02 PDT 2014 j...@ecoreality.org said: I agree with others that the parallel Vicor modules may be fighting with each other. Are they adjustable? If so, you could sum them via a Schottky isolator,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Say Watt? TMC sez no one wants a Toyota EV ...

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:15 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: No one is coming to our door asking us to build a new electric car. ​I beg to differ. I, for one, did precisely that. When I saw the Lexus ad​ ​that openly bashes EVs I wrote to Toyota marketing and told them I had

Re: [EVDL] Lit C1 does the slalom and now has a tailgate.

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: There has been a lot of speculation about the C1. Now it's performing and evolving. My confidence in the vehicle just went up 1000%. ​Sorry, my confidence is still at zero. That's not a slalom, that's a few

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video)

Regarding previous motorcycle riding experience, that might actually be a hindrance. I had some detailed correspondence with the Lit spokesman some time back. I learned that the steer by wire approach was necessary due to the approach they would take regarding initiating a turn. It's an approach

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video)

a human (in the same test) because the robot has no fear. Whereas the human would not stand for the whack from the side... Bob -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tromley via EV Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:44 AM To: brucedp5

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (cheetah)

[mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tromley via EV Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:44 AM To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video) Regarding previous motorcycle riding experience, that might actually

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

I think people tend to generalize, thinking high speed must be high-consumption and low speed low. As in most things, it depends. If you rive for low consumption, high speed can be pretty economical. I've seen this with my ICE vehicle watching the real time consumption readout, sometimes see 50+

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

How much does it weigh? What everyone else accelerates on every stop-start is probably nothing compared to your situation. Chris On Nov 6, 2014 12:38 PM, John Lussmyer via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I should have mentioned, this is with my electric F-250. Aerodynamics of a brick. I was

Re: [EVDL] EVrecord: 0-100kph:1.785s Grimsel.ch e-racer Out-Accelerate Formula1

With all due respect to the Swiss researchers, I believe Plasma Boy was faster than that a few years ago in his White Zombie - a door-slammer Datsun 1200 conversion. Chris On Nov 7, 2014 5:39 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

No money in EVs? It's a good thing Elon Musk doesn't know that. I seem to see more Model S's around where I live than newish Mercedes. There are none so blind Chris On Nov 12, 2014 3:31 AM, brucedp via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: % Anyone seeing an automaker pattern here? Dejavu %

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

That's an important point. Growth is spectacularly cash-hungry, and Tesla is growing at a pretty good clip. For years. Many young businesses would have folded long ago. Tesla is now planning a how-many-billion-dollar gigafactory? These guys just don't know how to play by the rules. Chris On

Re: [EVDL] EVent: Livewire EV @motorcycleshows.com/long-beach 11/1516 $ (video)

Harley's biggest demographic is aging out of relevance. They desperately need someone to step in to fill that gap or they're doomed. Bad-ass biker dudes are *so* last century. But you know what? Hipster chic has just as big or bigger a following, and it's not really so alien to what the biker

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

FWIW, I still remember the day a week before a trade show when something went FUBAR on must-have-for-trade-show parts. I ended up driving over 80 miles before lunch. It does happen, and I don't want to be making excuses for my EV. I'm thinking the public will be OK with 150 miles and happy with

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Rush Dougherty r...@ironandwood.org wrote: I'm not sure I agree... I think that ​​ everything has its limits and it's fine to admit and respect them. ​Hold that thought - more later...​ Let me ask you, if your boss, the day of the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Chris Meier m...@comcast.net wrote: Uber? Lyft? Have them pick it up for you, and you retain that hour... ​As in my case, and that of another poster, sometimes you really have to be there. Quickly. Chris​ -- next part -- An HTML

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla manufacturing-robots named after X-Men superheroes

​Back in the old days, comic book heroes weren't a popular phenomenon. Computers were new, a portable computer weighed 40+ lbs and filled an entire desktop. We had three of them on carts in our lab. We called them Larry, Darryl and Darryl. Chris (Sorry if some EVDLers don't get that pop

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hollywood Electrics a stealthy e-Motorcycle Gang

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:23 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1095380_electric-motorcycle-gangs-youll-never-hear-them-coming Electric Motorcycle Gangs: You'll Never Hear Them Coming By Ben Rich Nov 21, 2014 Bikers are pack animals by

Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:54 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 13 Dec 2014 at 12:48, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: I did like the Honda EVPlus better. It did have 100 mile real world range which lasted without noticeable degradation for six years. IMO, the EV Plus

Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mark Abramowitz ma...@enviropolicy.com wrote: On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Honda in particular sees itself as an engine company. EVs are seen as a threat to the status quo. Where can I find

Re: [EVDL] Spark EV owners care-less about fashion-police's ugliest-car ranking

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:34 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 19 Dec 2014 at 1:47, brucedp5 via EV wrote: Like beauty, ugly is in the eye, et cetera. Who really cares what other people think of your EV's appearance? It's down to whether YOU like it. ​Agreed. I

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hi Ben, What SRPs CEO knows and you will find out is you are diving into a rabbit hole. It is not a rational world down there, yet. I will just talk about batteries. ​Lots of excellent points, I'll just comment

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Admits Bolt EV Confusion, ? A r:200mi compliance-EV-gen2 ?

The Bolt/Volt confusion is just another example of refusing to learn from past mistakes. What happens when you call your new model a Nova in Spanish speaking countries? You're telling your customers your car won't go. Chris On Feb 27, 2015 4:14 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: %

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: WA Loves Electric Cars, But Gets Very Few

The problem with compliance cars is they are made by companies that don't want to make them. If I'm going to buy a car, I'll only buy from a company whose heart is in it - not from a company that feels their arm is being twisted, and making them only to gain access to a market. Their priorities

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Here's the elephant in the room that I haven't seen addressed: When a self-driving car is involved in a fatal accident, who pays? Who goes to jail? I wouldn't want to be in a self-driving car because when (not if)

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Ben Goren b...@trumpetpower.com wrote: On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: In order to improve traffic safety, self-driving cars don't have to be perfect; they only have to be better than the average human. ​I more

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Zombie222 electric 1968 Mustang 0-60mph:2s destroys Tesla-SP85D

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:26 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A Texas-based enthusiast named Mitch Medford has teamed up with well-known electric drag racer John Wayland to build an all-electric 1968 Ford Mustang that’s capable of beating a top-spec Tesla Model S P85D on a drag

[EVDL] Last call for LeSled

All, Well, it's official - I waited too long. My EV (LeSled - www.evalbum.com/274) got sidelined years ago with a ground fault. Lots of home projects (some pretty major) got in the way. I listed it as for sale on EV album, put it on the EV Tradin' Post and DIYElectricCar. No responses. So

Re: [EVDL] DIY EV air conditioning?

will run nicely from DC. Certainly cheap to try. Bill D. On 6/11/2015 6:35 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: If A/C demands aren't great, I've wondered if you could get away with a cooler, some ice packs, some water to carry the cold and a circulation pump to run the water through a tubing

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: RT more interested in their eats than the Tesla-S70D

Actually this story has nothing to do with eats and everything to do with filler for the magazine. I'm betting a deadline was looming and other stories weren't ready in time. Why else do a page on the most boring of driving experiences, driving across the midwest? Trying to spice it up by

Re: [EVDL] Sleek independent Tesla-M electric motorcycle rendering

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:36 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://www.worldcarfans.com/115071596597/tesla-model-m-rendering-shows-great-potential-for-an Tesla Model M rendering shows great potential for an electric bike [20150715] By Septerra [images

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Energica Electric Superbikes> The Tesla Of eMotorcycles since 2014

Hmmm. I don't think this kind of comparison plays as well in the sport bike world as it does with hypercars. There are several literbikes available in the $16k - $20k range that will turn 3 sec 0 - 60 times, 1/4 miles in the 9s (yes, 9s!) and top speeds approaching 180 mph. Energica isn't there

Re: [EVDL] Emotorworks (Juicebox) lack of customer support

Thanks for this. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a juicebox myself. As a perpetual electrical noob I can't afford an EVSE at an attractive price that has no support. Chris On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ken Olum via EV wrote: > At the end of June I bought the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Buying An Electric Car: Why Charging Rate, DC Quick-Charging Matter

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > It is unsustainable to expect that people without EV charging at home or > at work (both can be 115 volt) will be happy to leave their cars for hours > every day somewhewre else every single day. Or that there

Re: [EVDL] Emotorworks (Juicebox) lack of customer support

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ken Olum via EV wrote: > At the end of June I bought the JuiceBox 40 Pro EVSE from Emotorwerks. > I paid $600, and I think that's enough that I'm entitled to a little > customer support. But I've 4 sent requests to their support address and >

[EVDL] Employer EVSE installations vs. near-future trends

I've been involved with EVs for almost two decades, but I just used an EVSE for the first time a couple of weeks ago on my new-to-me i-MiEV. So please forgive me if I'm a bit slow on this topic. See, living on the east coast (Philadelphia suburbs) means living in an EVSE desert. Up until

Re: [EVDL] Employer EVSE installations vs. near-future trends

Many thanks to all who responded. Special mentions go to Bruce, for research above and beyond, Robert B. for compelling points favoring L1 and Arnold for the government resources link. I have some work ahead to get through all the input, but I should be much better equipped to guide the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting seizing escooters ebicycles

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 3:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-police-crackdown-illegal-scooters-article-1.2279900 EXCLUSIVE: Police begin crackdown on illegal scooters and electric bikes BY Molly Crane-newman , Thomas Tracy July 3,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NYPD busting seizing escooters ebicycles

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: From GreenCarReports: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1084757_nyc-bans-electric-bikes-again-launches-bike-sharing-system The law covers any electric bicycle that has a throttle, possibly exempting pedal

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: JUST IN - IT'S OFFICIAL - Mitsubishi EXTENDING Battery Warranty

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM, via EV wrote: > Is that warranty transferable to a second owner? ​I just bought a used 2012 i-Miev with a grand total​ ​of 3400 miles. The warranty book says, " This warranty is provided to the original and subsequent ​ ​ owner(s) of the

Re: [EVDL] Rockville, MD?

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: > Does anyone have experience with driving > between Washington and NYC (I-95 North) > and looking for DC Quick Chargers? > (I have Charge Point and Plugshare :-) > > So far, I have Google Mapped 3 Nissan

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Economists are from Mars, Electric Vehicles are from Venus

This all kind of presumes the subsidies this guy is talking about will remain forever. They won't. In fact they will probably end soon, confirming that EVs have finally gotten a toe-hold in the marketplace and rendering his argument mostly irrelevant. Chris On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:03 AM,

Re: [EVDL] HOW GM BEATS TESLA TO THE Every Man's Electric Car

It's important to remember that corporations aren't people. They're more like sharks looking for food. You can't train a shark, but you can have some control over it if you control its food supply. If it goes somewhere that is beneficial, like manufacturing EVs, make sure there's a good supply

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Knockoff.cn motivation> $24k Lit C–1 self-balancing 2whl EV r:150mi ts:100mph

I've said it before and I'll repeat it here. A self-balancing motorcycle is a mind-crushingly complex problem to solve. Lit recently brought on a highly qualified controls engineer, but they still haven't shown a video of a prototype doing anything but very slow and ultra-basic moves. In the

Re: [EVDL] Looking for help learning to build EV motor

Brad, I am someone who is most certainly NOT an expert in your field, but I try to approach any problem by finding its borders first. I do know that switched reluctance (SR) motors are very enticing due to their simplicity and therefore low cost, but they are mind-numbingly difficult to control

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Venturi, OSU VBB-3 Electric Racer targets 372mph record 0-60mph:2s

Years ago when I was paying attention to this stuff, road racers on slicks could pull 1.2g and higher without any special 'TrackBite'-like coatings on the track. I remember 2g in some situations, but I don't remember if banking was involved. The theory behind coefficient of friction is based on

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Human Taking Over From Computer Crashes Autonomous Leaf

We'll never know all the necessary details of what happened from a report like this, but it does tend to reinforce my concerns about any highly complex control system working in a highly variable environment. It's all about the transitions. Simple, well defined situations are simple to manage.

Re: [EVDL] Ensure your spent li-ion batteries are properly recycled/disposed-of

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 7:07 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 14 Feb 2016 at 0:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > One fix would be a law requiring a substantial core deposit on each > battery, > but that would boost the purchase prices of EVs. Not a winner. > ​Seems

Re: [EVDL] battery box

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > I'm looking for a source for a weather tight, probably fiberglass, box. > About 4'x6' and 2' high with a lift-up top. Can anyone suggest? Some > custom fiberglass shop? ​The chances that you'd find something really

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 and Leaf EVs among CR's dishonorable mentions

I know that CR has made some boneheaded moves on the past, but their reliability ratings are pretty well regarded. I would not be at all surprised that an i3 is unreliable, since that's a pretty common thing for BMWs. And wasn't it around 2013 that Nissan had their problems with packs in hot

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Proposed Tesla e-motorcycle concept by designer Serrano

Give me a flippin' break. *FAR* too "out there" to have a prayer of reasonable sales figures. Hub center steering has been tried in the marketplace and got few nibbles. Motorcyclists are a conservative lot, even those who like the techy end of the spectrum. I maintain that if Tesla wants to

[EVDL] Solder strength (was: Re: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Solder is mechanically weak, and has a low melting point. It's fine for > little low-power stuff, when there is negligible shock and vibration. It > is, after all, how 99.9% of all electronic connections are made on

[EVDL] OT: Molex products (was: Solder strength....)

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > All this being said, yes crimping is better and my preferred method is > Molex. ​FYI,​ ​I was surprised recently to learn that Molex is now​ owned by Koch Industries. It has changed my approach to using Molex

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Upgraded 2016 Tesla-S 90D is the first 300mi/483km production Electric car

Pure speculation here, but I'll take a whack. These are EPA tests so speeds, durations, acceleration and deceleration rates are tightly prescribed. I'm guessing a smaller, lighter car won't suffer the disadvantage of yanking roughly 5000# up to speed, and that means it does better in town than

Re: [EVDL] $2.85/hr L2 KY utility EVSE> too co$tly to get used

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 6:26 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > % A Leaf EV charging @6kW = 24mph or ~1gal of $1.76 gas % > > > http://wfpl.org/kentucky-grants-lge-ku-permission-install-public-electric-vehicle-charging-stations/ > More Electric Vehicle Charging Stations Are

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM’s 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform

This whole autonomous vehicle circus has been a PR disaster, thanks in large part to Tesla calling their system "autopilot". No one stops to realize the real autopilot (as used in aircraft) is little more than cruise control. And when you're in the vicinity of anything you could hit, you're not

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

I'm against SDVs now, but I also disagree they are a dead end. The problem here is that it's just plain stupid to try to go from zero autonomy to full autonomy in one rapid sweep. Not only is the tech not ready, the public isn't ready. This is a huge change, and we humans aren't well suited to

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I did not know you need to be a tech junkie > to understand and confirm the on-screen warning message > "You must keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times > and take over the driving as needed" > when

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Willie2 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 07/29/2016 08:00 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > >> Trying to jump the gun, or even worse, calling what we have now >> "autopilot" >> is beyond idiotic. I ha

Re: [EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

A Currie E Drive (or similar) setup might work. http://www.electricscooterparts.com/currieelectrodriveelectricbicyclekitparts.html Chris On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:29 PM, ken via EV wrote: > I have a Bike E with 20" back wheel . Where can I find a reasonably > priced wheel

Re: [EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

Just realized you're looking for a 36V solution and the Currie setup is for 24V. Go to http://evdeals.com/Currie%20Kit.htm and see their similar kit and options. Theirs is 24V too, but call Scott at 508-695-3717. I'm guessing some of his motor options could be run at 36V just fine, and you'll

Re: [EVDL] ev beeper

if it's a scooter it has a handlebar. Just go to a bike store and buy an old fashioned bicycle bell. Self-contained right there on the bar, no wiring, pleasant 'shing-shing' sound. I've even considered using one for my electric car, but it becomes more difficult to operate it remotely. Chris

[EVDL] Adapting L1 to 14-50 receptacle

​My used iMiEV came with a no-name L1 charging brick. I mean literally no name - there's no ID on the thing, only an ETL logo and some minimal instructions zip-tied to the power cord. It does clearly say 120 VAC, which surprised me. I thought these things generally had universal input.​ I'm

Re: [EVDL] Nissan.ca sez 'No' To Leaf-Group-Buy> ticking-off 3700+ EV buyers = a lose-lose

I have little doubt that there are all sorts of contractual restrictions regarding who Nissan can sell to directly, what constitutes an acceptable fleet buyer, etc. The only rational way to do this is to contact Nissan first, before putting anyone's name on a list. There is no justifiable reason

Re: [EVDL] Peugeot iOn EV(Euro-iMiev) has 2 bad cells> ?Repair covered by the warranty?

From hanging round the myimiev forum I've learned that the warranty on the iMiev battery was extended to 10 years and 100k miles. There have been relatively few packs that needed to be replaced, and Mitsubishi has been very cooperative in handling those replacements, without regard for whether

Re: [EVDL] She crashes& blames Tesla> 16k/yr driver 'pushing-accelerator-for-the-brake' crashes

It may be much more basic than that. Back in the days of the Audi 5000, when there was precious little software involved and accelerators were operated through cables, they had a then-famous issue with unintended acceleration. It may have been the first time this issue came to public light.

Re: [EVDL] Should I Buy a Smart ED or a IMIEV or Chevy Spark?

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > Say, can you read the individual cell voltages on the iMiEV like the > Leaf-Spy on the OBD-2 port? I assume I could just use my OBD-2 reader I > use > on the Prius and Insight that reads codes but don't know for

Re: [EVDL] Tesla with auto pilot predicts accident.

Watch the video carefully. The Tesla may not be reacting to the SUV in front of the red car. Look at the car in front of the SUV - three cars ahead of the Tesla, which is what the SUV is braking hard to avoid. That car was the cause of the accident. If seeing that far ahead seem a bit of a

Re: [EVDL] Solar trike project.

Lawrence, Go to LunaCycle.com and look at the Bafang BBS02 mid drive. These are far more versatile than a hub motor because you can use the trike's gearing, making real-life hills MUCH easier. The BBS01 is officially a 750W system, but LunaCycle hotrods it (reliably) to like 1300W. Not sure

Re: [EVDL] Battery Connections

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:06 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Robert, > Welding. Their 24V modules consist of 6 series banks of several dozen > cells in parallel, > It really is enlightening to look at some high-res pictures of a module, > you can even find them > On Ebay.

Re: [EVDL] EV Spare Tire

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:22 PM, SLPinfo.org via EV wrote: > Mark, > > A spare is certainly good advice but on my I-Miev that would mean 2 spares > since the front and rear tires are different sizes. Hence spares are not > included; they only give you a can of fix-a-flat type

Re: [EVDL] Adapting L1 to 14-50 receptacle

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > Chris Tromley wrote: > > However, you will *not* pull 3kW from anything ;^> > ​D'oh! [slaps forehead] Of course Roger and Cor are both right. I guess I'm just giddy from using my recently-installed JuiceBox

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