On 24 May 2021 at 11:26, Larry Gales via EV wrote:
> The smaller you make a gas vehicle, the uglier, noisier, dirtier, they
> become . In addition, they are proportionally less efficient. So small gas
> vehicles are generally a bad idea: they are responsible for much of the
> horrific pollution y
More than somewhat off topic, but what the heck.
First off, the "joules" rating of your UPS probably refers to its built in
TVSS's ability to absorb surge energy.
That strongly suggests that you have a small office or home device. These
usually cost in the low to mid 2-figures to the low 3-f
The ID4 was developed primarily for the EU market where residential mains
are 230-240 volt. So there's a pretty good chance that it's capable of
handling that voltage. Regrettably it's a pricey failure if not!
Can you open it and have a look at the individual components' voltage
ratings with
If NEVs are such a "stoopid" idea, why do you see so many smiling people
driving golf cars around retirement communities?
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On 22 May 2021 at 13:04, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> It's really sad that Rick Woodbury has never been able to get his Tango
> EV to market .
>
I hear you! The Tango was a brilliant but doomed EV.
Maybe if you're really wealthy you could have Rick custom-build you one. I
may be wrong, but I hav
On 22 May 2021 at 12:58, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> Vehicles doing things you'll never do, in places you'll never drive.
Keith Bradsher quoted someone in the auto business in "High and Mighty, The
Dangerous Rise of the Suv" (slightly paraphrased since I'm too lazy to dig
out the book right now),
On 22 May 2021 at 17:09, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Half of leaf would be 87.5, so i-miev is 70% larger than that.
I wonder if somehow Willie got his hands on authentic Japanese-market
Imievs. If memory serves, and someone please correct me if it doesn't, the
Japanese market Imiev really was
On 22 May 2021 at 17:52, j wickes1 via EV wrote:
> And power your house from the dryer plug when the power goes out, minimal
> modifications required.
I hope you're joking. There's a reason that such things are called "suicide
cables."
However, standby power for your house is a fine idea, as
On 21 May 2021 at 21:22, Jim Walls via EV wrote:
> Because you didn't want to drive some postage stamp vehicle...
> Or you like me NEED a full size truck...
Tradespeople in every other major industrial democracy do fine with trucks
as little as half the weight of our pickups. US prickups carry
On 19 May 2021 at 17:46, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Now, as a person with a disability and disability advocate [I can see
> that] there is an obvious physical barrier of use here. Currently,
> nationwide under ADA if a person with a disability pulls into a gas
> station (inc self-serve) they
On 19 May 2021 at 10:19, paul dove via EV wrote:
> It's a bigger stretch to say: "This is a great reminder that vehicles
> may have autopilot to assist, but it cannot be relied upon to get you
> safely from one destination to the next," the sheriff's office said on
> Facebook.
I must be misunde
On 18 May 2021 at 20:43, paul dove via EV wrote:
> https://www.tesladeaths.com/
> That proves nothing! Everyone that wrecks a Tesla says they were on
> Autopilot and then Tesla checks the computer and says no they weren't.
That's a pretty broad statement, and I don't see how your link supports
On 18 May 2021 at 19:22, paul dove via EV wrote:
> That proves nothing! Everyone that wrecks a Tesla says they were on Autopilot
> and then Tesla checks the computer and says no they weren't.
>
Citation needed.
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On 17 May 2021 at 0:09, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Why would you. It a spare?
Not sure what that means.
> I have had like 2 flats in 45 years
You must live where the roads are always smooth. Here in Ohio, where every
spring renders up a new batch of street canyons (AKA potholes), I'd say that
On 15 May 2021 at 17:29, Steves via EV wrote:
> So if I make less pollution , ITMm charged extra?! Go figure.
I think there are a couple of factors at work here.
1. The laws implementing EV and gas-only pseudo hybrid license surcharges
are based on model legislation written by ALEC (American L
On 15 May 2021 at 14:57, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Raise EV road use tax by X and raise the gas drivers ENVIRONMENTAL USE
> tax by the same amount - X.
I see your point, but I think that vehicle owners should pay in proportion
to the environmental harm they cause. The more environmental
On 15 May 2021 at 14:27, Charles Galpin via EV wrote:
> wouldnTMt a gas tax basically accomplish this?
It already does, of course. But if they seriously want to transition to
100% EV sales by 2030 it does mean reduced fuel tax revenue as the active
ICEV population gradually declines..
IMO tha
A road tax is just a fine for EV owners to punish them for not using
petroleum, and discourage motorists from switching to EVs. On the contrary,
if they actually want EVs (spoiler: they don't), they should waive as many
fees on them as possible.
IMO, the fair way to recover fuel tax revenue
On 14 May 2021 at 9:12, jim--- via EV wrote:
> A 3 KW solar array would hardly make a dent at my house.
I read years ago that when you're considering a PV system, the first step is
to review your energy use and find where you can reduce it. Obviously the
more you can cut it, the less your syst
On 9 May 2021 at 12:35, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> If future true carbon neutral is "handwaving", then I'd love to hear your
> proposal for long-distance air travel? What have you got?
Sorry if I offended, I didn't mean to.
What I mean by hand-waving (though this definition is a bit rough):
www.
On 9 May 2021 at 18:30, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I've seen a prototype reactor (high pressure, high temp, with a
> catalyst)
I'm all for snagging energy from the waste stream, but pressure and heat
require energy input. Where will it come from? And how does that input
compare with the en
On 9 May 2021 at 14:38, Jim Walls via EV wrote:
> I heat my house, make hot water, and cook (except for the microwave)
> with natural gas. I can do all that for less than electric heating one room
> part time. I'm in no hurry to move away from natural gas for making heat.
I have two reactions
On 8 May 2021 at 10:10, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> Biofuels can at least be carbon neutral, as you can close the
> carbon cycle. It will take a long way to get there of course, as the
> complete biofuel production cycle is also still a carbon intensive
> operation, but this can be fixed over time.
The number of electric cars, vans, trucks and buses on the world´s roads is
on course to increase from 11m vehicles to 145m by the end of the decade ..
A report by the International Energy Agency has found that there could be
230m electric vehicles worldwide by 2030 if governments agreed to enco
On 27 Apr 2021 at 20:40, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Measured the battery voltage while charging.
Definitely not kosher. I don't know what your Leaf's 12v battery calls for
but I doubt that it's anything close to that.
The old Hawker Genesis manual allowed that up to 15.6v at low curren
Lawrence, how did you measure that 16.5 volts? Is that the charger's open
circuit voltage, or is that the peak voltage you measure at the battery
terminals when it's on charge?
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If you lived in Europe you'd have good small E-van choices.
>From what I've read Chinese automakers will soon be flooding Europe with yet
more small E-vans. Maybe a few of them will make it to these shores too.
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On 26 Apr 2021 at 9:48, Willie via EV wrote:
> battery capacity loss ... in Leafs.
I find it intriguing that the Leaf and the Renault Zoe are and were cousin
EVs, but no Zoe owners that I have heard of yet have reported anything like
the capacity loss that plagued early Leaves.
Both cars use
I don't know whether Genesis batteries have changed since the Hawker days,
but in cyclic use Hawker used to recommend constant voltage charging at 14.7
to 15 volts, with an optional float stage following at 13.65v.
Those voltages were at 25 deg C and were meant to be adjusted for
temperature
On 24 Apr 2021 at 14:08, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> For the same size vehicle, a minivan form is generally more practical.
>
Correct. In most industrialized nations other than the US and Canada, the
tradesperson's standard vehicle is a van. It keeps the load dry and the
worker's tools secu
On 22 Apr 2021 at 12:52, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Most people buy used cars not new.
It would be correct to say that more used than new cars are sold. In 2018
in the US, 40.42 million used vehicles were sold, compared to 17.21 million
new ones. So, 70% of sales were used vehicles that year.
One more time.
Very few people buy the products they need. They buy the products that are
SOLD to them. Ask any advertising professional or media person. That's
their business.
No other factor in purchasing decisions carries anything close to
advertising's weight.
It may be difficult for
On 21 Apr 2021 at 17:50, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> Complain all you want, but unless you fire up your own company and start
> selling a compelling solution that people want it doesn't matter. "They" sure
> aren't!
Funny, that's exactly how the Japanese automakers got their feet in the door
here
On 21 Apr 2021 at 13:09, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> Most of the big automakers can't even sell normal sedans anymore, let alone a
> super-lightweight "city" car. Just not going to happen.
And yet, somehow Volkswagen sold over 21 million Beetles. They sold enough
of them to prosper even when Detr
On 20 Apr 2021 at 22:34, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> That's pretty much what James Worden of Solectria did with the Sunrise,
> and Alex Krause did with the Evergreen. Build a (relatively) normal
> car, but with the emphasis on streamlining and light weight.
Exactly! And others, from the Sundancer
It appears that Lawrence has already made up his mind, so in a few years'
time we can ask him how that Leaf 12v lithium retrofit worked out.
In the meantime, other folks here now have good, useful information and
advice from two knowledgeable and experienced engineers and EV builders, Lee
and
On 16 Apr 2021 at 14:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> BEV passenger car platforms will begin to be introduced for medium and
> large cars in 2023 with more than 435 miles and 497 miles of range,
> respectively. The platform for small cars should be launched in 2026
> with more than 310 miles of ra
On 15 Apr 2021 at 15:10, nathan christiansn via EV wrote:
> In my opinion, it is VERY suspicious that (except in rare cases) GM only
> leased the EV1 and never sold it. It's almost like they were planning on
> crushing all of them from the very beginning
I don't know that I'd say "suspicious.
This thread is mostly off topic. However, there are a couple of critical
points that everyone posting so far seems to be missing.
I want Amazon, UPS, Fedex, and ESPECIALLY USPS to convert their delivery
fleets to EVs.
But I want HUMANS driving them. I want HUMANS delivering my packages to m
Previously:
> Is there someone in this group that can help me hook up my BMS system and
> finalize configuring the Hyper 9 motor. Here is BMS I'm trying to use. If
> you have one you prefer that will work better, I'm open to suggestions.
> https://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_i
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Is there someone in this group that can help me hook up my BMS system and
finalize configuring the Hyper 9 motor. Here is BMS I'm trying to use. If
you have
On 4 Apr 2021 at 14:23, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> During my EV eganguelising I am forever correcting people who think a
> hybrid is an EV. It is not. But a plugin hybrid is. We have to
> correct those mistakes wherever they occur.
I've been fighting this battle since the Piius came out i
On 3 Apr 2021 at 11:20, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> However, in the case of Obrist's technology, the benefits of only
> having the generator(s) connected means they can do clever tricks to
> optimize the efficiency that allows it to always run at the most
> optimal speed.
I'm no engineer, but it se
On 1 Apr 2021 at 16:42, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
> The key fob is more reliable than a dead cell phone.
Yup. And a lot easier to slip into your pocket, considering the ludicrous
size of today's tablets-masquerading-as-mobile-phones.
>From what I've read, you can own and drive Teslas and other
On 30 Mar 2021 at 9:23, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> Filling stations make virtually nothing from sale of fuel ... Sheesh!
Corrections (preferably with evidence) are welcome but there's no need to be
outraged! :-\
Jukka was talking about EU filling stations. My first thought was that the
On 30 Mar 2021 at 17:11, Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote:
> The thing is one full tank of gasoline is (at least in here) around
> $80-100. That is much more than the 40-50 kWh with normal electricity
> prices (~10c/kWh) which is only $4-5 per charge
Thanks - I think that I see part of the problem.
On 28 Mar 2021 at 21:03, dave delman via EV wrote:
> Anything new/significant happening with BYD Blade battery?
This thread seems to have diverged from the original question.
Here's some recent information about BYD's battery.
https://insideevs.com/news/495023/byd-blade-battery-entering-euro
On 30 Mar 2021 at 0:56, Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote:
> The transaction and authorization volume is not there.
I think that it needs to be as easy to charge an EV as it is to fuel an
ICEV.
I can't imagine that any ICEV driver would want a wallet with a credit card
for Shell, another for BP,
On 29 Mar 2021 at 22:46, Jukka Järvinen via EV wrote:
> I heard Tesla SC is going to be open in Europe to all cars. I'm not sure if
> it already has happened.
Jukka , thanks for the post. I hope it has happened, or will soon.
It would make a lot of sense. EU seems to have somewhat less regu
Willie, sorry, I didn't catch the fact that you were quoting someone else
mentioning free charging. I agree with the term "included charging."
Your history of the Tesla charging offer was quite interesting. Somehow I'd
gotten the impression that charging was still included with the more
expen
On 27 Mar 2021 at 17:10, Willie via EV wrote:
> thus far, even after factoring in my charging cost at home, I have
> saved $20,515 in gas. Having free supercharging of course helps.
An impressive amount, but I don't think that your supercharging is really
free. As I understand it, you effectiv
On 23 Mar 2021 at 8:04, Willie via EV wrote:
> I had not previously considered VW to be a real contender against Tesla
> in the EV market. Before their "Power Day" announcement, I would not
> have considered a buying a VW. Now, I am reconsidering.
Here in the US we trail Europe quite a bit for
Here's a video clip of a Tesla driver trying out a version of Tesla's
advanced autopilot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uClWlVCwHsI
He makes 9 attempts at a left turn with oncoming traffic. If my count is
correct, 4 tries are successful. In the other 5 he has to intervene to
prevent a poss
On 22 Mar 2021 at 10:33, Steves via EV wrote:
> Remember that the Bolt also doesnTMt have a spare. Remember too that EVs
> donTMt always use readily available tires, so if you get a flat, you could be
> stuck for a few days waiting on tire delivery.
By way of comparison, Renault Zoe comes with a
On 22 Mar 2021 at 11:33, Willie via EV wrote:
> How can they efficiently extract heat from such cold air? I'm eager
> to learn details and see evaluations.
They can indeed extract heat, but I'm not so sure "efficiently" necessarily
applies.
I have a Mitsubishi Mister Slim M series mini-split.
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On 19 Mar 2021 at 14:52, paul dove via EV wrote:
> No parking brake. It has a break paw in the gear box that engages when in
> park.
I assume you mean a brake, not a break; and a parking pawl, not a paw.
Otherwise you might have to take the poor critter to a veterinarian to get
that broken pa
It occurs to me that:
1. Apple is like Tesla.
= Expensive
= Goes fast and far
= Gorgeous, polished, elegant, smoothly integrated hardware & software
= Only manufacturer-approved hardware and software add-ons are possible
= Everything just works, almost flawlessly, including official add-ons
= M
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/18/why-japans-carmaking-
heavyweights-could-be-facing-an-electric-shock
https://v.gd/bgH4Al
Japan´s traditional carmaking giants need to raise their game in the race to
develop pure, battery-driven electric vehicles or risk being left behind by
C
On 16 Mar 2021 at 21:47, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> If Tesla discovers the methods I use, they will block them, so it has
> to be kept under wraps for the good of the project.
That stinks. Don't you hate it when manufacturers treat you like their
enemy just because you behave like you actually o
On 16 Mar 2021 at 19:29, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> I have literally touched thousands of salvage Teslas ... there is a very
> high success rate. (>99%) Many of these cars are no longer connected
> to Tesla's servers, and operate just fine.
That's good news!
> I have created a new backend rep
On 16 Mar 2021 at 20:12, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Where I disagree is your comparison of tesla and apple. What apple did
> is terribly disingenuous. And they got nailed for it. But it's very
> different from tesla stating that, if you want "self driving," you need
> to pay $10k for it to be
Mark, have you looked into obtaining service manuals and the challenges of
working on your own Tesla? I get the impression (correct me if I'm wrong)
that Tesla discourages owners from doing anything but driving their cars.
And by "their," I mean Tesla, not you. From what I can tell, you don't
On 13 Mar 2021 at 19:17, Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
> If you regularly run your cells to 2.5 volts, you'll be replacing them soon.
>
> 3.00 volts with no load is considered dead. 2.5 volts is deader than dead.
Thanks Alan. Is that true for LiFePO4? In the original post, John gave the
nominal
John, first of all, a '65 Falcon conversion is a SUPER COOL idea. I'm
jealous. Well done!
Second, I'm far from a lithium battery expert, but I'm having trouble seeing
why you're concerned with "bottom balancing." I don't see why it would be
necessary or even desirable.
As I understand it, th
This doesn't apply to everyone - it depends on where you live - but if
you're in a moderately populated area, for the $50k you'd pay for a Tesla 3
(I'm assuming $40k for the car and another $10k for the alleged self-driving
option), you could pay a cabbie $25 per trip to take you on local errand
On 11 Mar 2021 at 16:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla
> sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full
> self-driving.
Good grief. Completely apart from the outright deception here - ten
thousand dollars! I
Jerry, as media folks like to say, "the plural of anecdote is not data."
What you've given us is an anecdote, your own limited experience.
Unfortunately that's not really useful statistical data on the safety - or
hazard - of Volt batteries without BMSes in situations that may be very
differ
On 7 Mar 2021 at 4:06, jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
> Next the BMSs
> available are not reliable and can double costs so adding them likely would
> increase danger, not cut it.I've heard of 100s of BMS failures killing
> modules, packs but no Volt Module failures without them.
Do you know in
On 5 Mar 2021 at 12:04, jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
> Hi All,Tuesday I was slowing for a light and a compact hit me at at 50mph
> from the rear in my 700lb EV trike pickup
Bummer, what lousy luck. Sorry to hear that the trike was wrecked, but glad
that you're OK. I hope that you can coll
On 3 Mar 2021 at 20:09, Mark Laity-Snyder via EV wrote:
> Tesla has already announced a $25K vehicle which will probably get
> made in Europe first but the time frame is next year.
I haven't been watching Tesla that closely, so this is news to me, and good
news at that If Tesla build a supe
On 3 Mar 2021 at 18:19, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
> With the request for $25k for an affordable EV, the 2021 Bolt comes close at
> $26k
Outstanding! Now we're getting close to the kind of price that starts to
sell EVs - especially with that car's range. If we can just get GM to
advertise it!
On 3 Mar 2021 at 23:22, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> https://solarteameindhoven.nl/stellafamily/ I've mentioned these vehicles
> before.
Sounds like a fantastic future, but don't hold your breath.
The Stella Lux has less than 6 square meters of PV, and the Stella Vie has
less than 5 square m
On 2 Mar 2021 at 3:22, paul dove via EV wrote:
> You will never regret buying a Tesla
Actually, that depends on who "you" is. If you earn significantly less than
the US median wage, and/or live paycheck to paycheck, you might indeed
regret it, just as you might any other $40-100k vehicle. Tha
On 26 Feb 2021 at 15:04, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> I cannot in good conscience recommend an EV to anyone who does not have
> their own dedicated parking spot and outlet for overnight charging.
That may be true in some cases, but I think it depends on the situation.
I've mentioned the per
On 25 Feb 2021 at 15:57, Glenn Brooks via EV wrote:
> If we accept todayTMs apartment dweller access problem as the architectural
> status quo, then yes. ItTMs indisputable. EVTMs will never work for 1/3 to
> 1/2 of the general population.
Never say never! EV batteries are ever larger and they'r
On 25 Feb 2021 at 2:40, Rod Hower via EV wrote:
> Why is the partisan hack Dejoy even employed?
I really don't want to get into the partisan politics of it - that's best
avoided here so we can keep this list focused on what we have in common.
Please, let's stay away from the many hyper-politic
On 24 Feb 2021 at 11:10, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
> Anybody want to guess how many EVs the USPS will order? Based on their
> history with EVs, I'd guess maybe 20% if we're lucky, but I'm a congenital
> pessimist.
Good grief, it turns out that I was OPTIMI
The USPS has finally announced its selection for new vehicles to replace the
nearly 35 year old LLV design. Not surprisingly they are MUCH larger. They
appear to be at least the size of a typical UPS delivery vehicle. This is
no surprise since the USPS delivers far more parcels today than the
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On 23 Feb 2021 at 15:15, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I rarely use L3 charging, but I did last year and the ESVE reported a
> rate of 10kWh. (It actually started at about 25kWh but dropped to 10
> over several minutes.)
No offense, but I'm pretty sure that was a finger-slip and you meant 10kW
Fast charging: I don't have personal experience yet and don't know the
reason, but I've seen this gripe on several EU EV forums. IIRC Tesla is
pretty good at maintaining a high charge rate for quite a while, but most
EVs taper pretty quickly. Some hold their rated peak for only a few
minutes.
Taking a rather wild, irresponsible guess, I'd say that there's some chance
they're covering themselves against legal liability in case someone's
homebrew gear causes injury or damage.
I don't know much about the way these commercial "electron pump" gadgets
work. How would Evgo enforce such
On 9 Feb 2021 at 8:34, Steves via EV wrote:
> Most people donTMt consider EVs because there is virtually no marketing for
> them. Ads, unfortunately, work on most people.
If the US automakers wanted to sell EVs, they'd advertise them.
When I was a pup, automakers advertised large sedans, luxur
On 8 Feb 2021 at 11:26, Steves via EV wrote:
> I think dealers of all makes are bad at this. We had similar experiences with
> Ford.
I can't speak to Asia, but this seems to be one of the big EV differences
between the US and western Europe (Italy possibly excepted). In France and
UK at least
Not to be too pessimistic about it (though you gotta do what you're good at,
and I'm GREAT at pessimism), but some of that might be actual battery
capacity loss. Lithium capacity loss from long term storage at high states
of charge does happen, especially at high ambient temperatures.
Most pr
On 3 Feb 2021 at 20:27, Dan Baker via EV wrote:
> Then when the vehicle shuts off you can view
> the "energy consumption since last charge" screen (pops up automatically) to
> see how many KW the battery put out. I think the max I've seen is 13.7KW.
This is your pedantic frantic fanatic butting
On 2 Feb 2021 at 13:26, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Get a Prius generator out of a wreck
Have you actually tried that? Saying it is easy, but from what I've read,
actually getting bits of the Prius drive system to work outside of the
Prius's complex computer-controlled environment isn't trivial.
On 1 Feb 2021 at 15:26, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> By the time the energy contained in the fuel reaches the road, you'll
> have lost a ~lot~ more of it than if you just drove a regular ICE
> vehicle of a similar size and weight.
Ever heard of Alan Cocconi? He designed the inverter for the orig
On 1 Feb 2021 at 13:14, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Every day in my Tesla Model S!
You give out free charges in your Tesla? Presumably to other EVers, yes?
That's a great idea - helping folks who might otherwise be stranded.
How do you do that? Is the charging port bi-directional?
Can you ch
On 30 Jan 2021 at 21:07, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Once Joe Six Pack realizes he can DIY a solar system and buy a used electric
> vehicle for well under 20K attitudes are going to change.
Don't hold your breath.
We're split into tribes here in the US. Haven't you noticed? Even if
the
On 29 Jan 2021 at 11:47, Willie via EV wrote:
> VW has gone far beyond their settlement requirements. They are showing
> that they are serious about conversion to EVs. GM is just talking and
> postponing.
I'm not a VW executive, so I have no idea of their reasoning; but that could
be partly
That's pretty music, but it's just a new verse to an old song. How loudly
GM sing it depends greatly on which way the political winds blow.
In 1978, GM promised that by 1980 I'd be able to buy a Chevette EV. I'm
still waiting. Pop quiz - what happened in US politics in 1980? Who was it
who
On 20 Jan 2021 at 17:59, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I wonder if there's anything we can do to increase awareness of EVDL.
Well, I suppose that some of the folks here who do (anti-)social media could
mention it there, maybe by quoting from our discussions. I wonder what kind
of new members w
On 19 Jan 2021 at 7:30, Willie via EV wrote:
> EVDL seems to be on it's last legs
Nope.
Our traffic did take a big hit in 2012, falling by about half. I think that
was mostly down to the Nissan Leaf and Tesla S. They and their production
EV bretheren have pretty well buried hobbyist EVs, whi
On 13 Jan 2021 at 5:48, Willie via EV wrote:
> What have become of Bruce's posts?
Hmm, Bruce is about due to post another batch of news, isn't he?
I last heard from him (offlist) about a week ago. He was crabbing at me for
posting a news item about EVs now being the majority of vehicle sales
Nope, the list is fine. I guess that nobody has anything to say about EVs
right now.
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Norway became the first country in the world where the sale of electric cars
has overtaken those powered by petrol, diesel and hybrid engines last year,
with the German carmaker Volkswagen replacing Tesla as the top battery-
vehicle producer, data shows.
Battery electric vehicles (BEVs) made up
On 28 Dec 2020 at 4:37, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Converting the Fiat 600 into an electric car required an initial
> investment of 12,300 euros ($ 15,000), and the modification process
> took nearly eight months. "The vehicle has a range of about 50
> kilometers (31 miles), a driving speed of 80 ki
On 28 Dec 2020 at 4:01, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Electric Car Turmoil Will Make Brexit A Comparative Breeze For Auto Makers
Bog-standard oily handwringing.
"Unless the price of electric cars falls drastically, Europeans on average
salaries are unlikely to be able to afford new cars ..."
Yeah
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