Re: [EVDL] fool cells

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM, nicklogan via EV wrote: > It would not surprise me to learn that Toyota has a very active electric > vehicle development program that they they choose to keep under wraps. Why > come out with an EV now that could undercut Prius sales? Possible, but I'm thinking

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Really, as creative as it is, can it be more effective than a bicycle > mechanism? You'd be surprised. Any crank mechanism is rather limited in efficiency. At the top and bottom of the stroke it doesn't matter how hard you push - al

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Smart Fortwo EV's Resiliency & Safety (videos)

2014-07-27 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV wrote: > Have you any evidence to suggest there is a problem with rear impact > performance? MW > I agree with Martin that there is no reason to believe there would be any problems with a rear-end crash until we see one. Especially because

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > Dennis, > > I can see that for working on the guts of the car, but for changing the > tires? C'mon, I can't believe that even OSHA would be that much of a > stickler. Regulations frequently have a period of awkward adjustment whil

Re: [EVDL] acquiring commercial l BEVs in non-compliance states

2014-07-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I have no trouble believing such an onerous regulation exists. One has to wonder however, what astoundingly difficult certification is required to work on cars that carry enough explosive liquid fuel to destroy an entire building and everyone in it. You must have to study and train for years to g

Re: [EVDL] EVDL biz: H2 and FCEV discussion

2014-07-30 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I also agree we should limit discussion of FCEVs. There will certainly be leaks on the list about major new advances. When FCEVs appear to be on a similar energy-footprint basis (i.e. energy-viable) as EVs we can revisit the issue. To respond to one poster's observation about the invective seen

Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox (was: Lithium battery setpoints...)

2014-07-31 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
My take on this is that the zinc is redundant. I use petroleum jelly. Certainly not a conductor. At a microscopic level each metal surface in the joint has pronounced peaks and valleys. Only the peaks touch. The grease, being a fluid, displaces to fill the voids and the many localized pressure

Re: [EVDL] Motoped ebike

2014-08-05 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Gary Krysztopik via EV wrote: > I'm building one of these with a single-engine drive and here is a > beautiful twin-engine build by Matt, who I bought my drive from. > > http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=62040 > > > Gary Catching up on my lis

Re: [EVDL] Conversion advice

2014-08-11 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:58 PM, ph...@bill-collins.net via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > A few years ago I decided to convert my '98 VW Cabrio to electric. At the > time, > a Warp 9 motor and Zilla 1K controller seemed to make a lot of sense, and > are > probably one of the best combination

Re: [EVDL] Protecting DC PWM Controller from low inductance/resistance motors

2014-08-11 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Adam Chasen via EV wrote: > One solution is to use the clutch in the Leopard to ensure there is no > starting load on the motor. I still measured inrushes of >300A with no > load! That will not work for my directly coupled 1989 BMW. I am curious if > Lee Hart (wit

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 100+ U.S. National 'Drive Electric Week' Events Planned 9/15-21

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Somehow I missed this, but I must respond. Mark's post is a particularly egregious manipulation of the truth. On Sun, 8/17/14, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 100+ U.S. National 'Drive Electric Week' Events > Planned 9/15-21 > To: "robert winfield" , "Electric Vehicle > Di

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Leno rides Harley-Davidson Livewire EV (video)

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
The Livewire is getting good reviews in the mainstream motorcycle press, but it remains to be seen if that means anything. It is being trotted around the country to be shown to Harley riders and dealers for feedback. Sorry if this seems closed-minded, but that's hardly the most open-minded or for

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Leno rides Harley-Davidson Livewire EV (video)

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > So > ​ ​ > again, why is HD doing this? Is it a token effort to show they could > ('we made an e-motorcycle, but no one wanted it ...'). Is there some > other method to their madness? ​FWIW, not only ar

Re: [EVDL] Replacing Auxiliary Battery

2014-08-22 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
If you're talking about a system with a big 12V battery and a high-amperage DC/DC, consider replacing the battery with another DC/DC. Parallel the two and isolate them with diodes. Done right, you should have the redundancy you need, enough current to handle inductive spikes from motors turning o

Re: [EVDL] Cargo bike with electric chain.

2014-08-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > Now with a battery of sufficient capacity and using the pedals as a > "Range Extender" you could ride with only the battery or pedal as hard > as you wanted to achieve a real aerobic work-out. That depends on your > goal for bicycling.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > A new study brings an old topic back to the forefront: how much range is > enough, and is it better to use battery advancements to decrease price > without improving range or make electric vehicles go further on a charge? > ​Why not do

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I think with the relatively recent CAFE (fuel economy) rules adopted by > the EPA we will see a gradual change. I'm hoping that change will > accelerate if Tesla and others can produce a 200+ mile range SUV or light > truck at a cost

Re: [EVDL] 270.224 mph at Bonneville

2014-09-15 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Plenty planes that can't go as fast as this monster on wheels! > ​Just to sharpen the point, it's technologically MUCH less challenging to get something to fly at 270 mph than to ​get something to roll on the ground at that speed

Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?

2014-09-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I think you're fighting a losing battle. Different alloys have an influence, but not enough to overcome the fact that copper has roughly twice the conductivity (both electrical and thermal) of aluminum. You'll need twice the cross-sectional area in aluminum as you would need with copper to achiev

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-26 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
​Being a product development​ engineer, this strikes me as a HUGE project. Even if you're not looking for professional results. I sense that you understand this is not something you'll be able to toss off in a weekend, but the key issue as I see it is this - how much time and effort will you need

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair & drive! (video)

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I agree completely. However, there was a passing mention in the original post about Otmar's "Stretchla". I would think Otmar would have no problem signing such a document. So what's up, Otmar? Has your drive line upgrade hit a snag? Chris On Sep 28, 2014 8:33 PM, "Robert Bruninga via EV" wrot

Re: [EVDL] Really efficient electric drive trains and what they are?

2014-10-05 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > When I saw the Stella it made growling ticking noises that stopped after > the vehicle made some speed. They said these motors were 98 % efficient. > I thought the run of the mill ADC motor with a Curtis controller was 90 % > and b

Re: [EVDL] DC-DC Cooling

2014-10-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:21 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > I think I'm going to have to figure out how to water cool my DC-DC. > I built this one using 4 Vicor 20A bricks to get a 80A capable unit. > It all fits on the back of a 6" square 2" thick heatsink with a 6" fan on > it. > I'm noticing

Re: [EVDL] DC-DC Cooling

2014-10-08 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > On Tue Oct 07 21:33:02 PDT 2014 j...@ecoreality.org said: > >I agree with others that the parallel Vicor modules may be fighting with > each other. Are they adjustable? If so, you could sum them via a Schottky > isolator, but it will

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Say Watt? TMC sez no one wants a Toyota EV ...

2014-11-02 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 3:15 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > "No one is coming to our door asking us to build a new electric car." ​I beg to differ. I, for one, did precisely that. When I saw the Lexus ad​ ​that openly bashes EVs I wrote to Toyota marketing and told them I had previously been

Re: [EVDL] Lit C1 does the slalom and now has a tailgate.

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > There has been a lot of speculation about the C1. Now it's performing > and evolving. My confidence in the vehicle just went up 1000%. ​Sorry, my confidence is still at zero. That's not a slalom, that's a few slow, mild turns s

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video)

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Regarding previous motorcycle riding experience, that might actually be a hindrance. I had some detailed correspondence with the Lit spokesman some time back. I learned that the steer by wire approach was necessary due to the approach they would take regarding initiating a turn. It's an approach

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video)

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
ne foot! > > And they said, it actually does it better than a human (in the same test) > because the robot has no "fear". Whereas the human would not stand for > the whack from the side... > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@l

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (cheetah)

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
force and the robot would retain its balance on one foot! > > And they said, it actually does it better than a human (in the same test) > because the robot has no "fear". Whereas the human would not stand for > the whack from the side... > > Bob > > -Orig

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I think people tend to generalize, thinking high speed must be high-consumption and low speed low. As in most things, it depends. If you rive for low consumption, high speed can be pretty economical. I've seen this with my ICE vehicle watching the real time consumption readout, sometimes see 50+

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
How much does it weigh? What everyone else accelerates on every stop-start is probably nothing compared to your situation. Chris On Nov 6, 2014 12:38 PM, "John Lussmyer via EV" wrote: > I should have mentioned, this is with my electric F-250. > Aerodynamics of a brick. > I was REALLY expecting

Re: [EVDL] EVrecord: 0-100kph:1.785s Grimsel.ch e-racer> Out-Accelerate Formula1

2014-11-07 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
With all due respect to the Swiss researchers, I believe Plasma Boy was faster than that a few years ago in his White Zombie - a door-slammer Datsun 1200 conversion. Chris On Nov 7, 2014 5:39 AM, "brucedp5 via EV" wrote: > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2820842/The-fastest-

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
No money in EVs? It's a good thing Elon Musk doesn't know that. I seem to see more Model S's around where I live than newish Mercedes. There are none so blind Chris On Nov 12, 2014 3:31 AM, "brucedp via EV" wrote: > > > % Anyone seeing an automaker pattern here? Dejavu % > > http://gas2.o

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes Sez There's No Money In Selling EVs

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
That's an important point. Growth is spectacularly cash-hungry, and Tesla is growing at a pretty good clip. For years. Many young businesses would have folded long ago. Tesla is now planning a how-many-billion-dollar gigafactory? These guys just don't know how to play by the rules. Chris On N

Re: [EVDL] Protecting DC PWM Controller from low inductance/resistance motors

2014-11-13 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Adam Chasen wrote: > Chris, > You are correct! I was able to confirm just by setting the PWM low enough > to see that the motor wouldn't continue to spin past a certain speed. > Looks like I am still running the 100% original Presolite 4001 MTA. I do > get it pre

Re: [EVDL] EVent: Livewire EV @motorcycleshows.com/long-beach 11/15&16 $ (video)

2014-11-15 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Harley's biggest demographic is aging out of relevance. They desperately need someone to step in to fill that gap or they're doomed. Bad-ass biker dudes are *so* last century. But you know what? Hipster chic has just as big or bigger a following, and it's not really so alien to what the biker l

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-18 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
FWIW, I still remember the day a week before a trade show when something went FUBAR on must-have-for-trade-show parts. I ended up driving over 80 miles before lunch. It does happen, and I don't want to be making excuses for my EV. I'm thinking the public will be OK with 150 miles and happy with

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-18 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Rush Dougherty wrote: > I'm not sure I agree... I think that > ​​ > everything has its limits and it's fine to > admit and respect them. ​Hold that thought - more later...​ > > Let me ask you, if your boss, the day of the " must-have-for-trade-show > parts" >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-19 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Chris Meier wrote: > Uber? Lyft? Have them pick it up for you, and you retain that hour... > ​As in my case, and that of another poster, sometimes you really have to be there. Quickly. Chris​ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrub

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla manufacturing-robots named after X-Men superheroes

2014-11-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
​Back in the old days, comic book heroes weren't a popular phenomenon. Computers were new, a "portable" computer weighed 40+ lbs and filled an entire desktop. We had three of them on carts in our lab. We called them Larry, Darryl and Darryl. Chris (Sorry if some EVDLers don't get that pop cul

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hollywood Electrics> a stealthy e-Motorcycle Gang

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:23 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1095380_electric-motorcycle-gangs-youll-never-hear-them-coming > Electric Motorcycle Gangs: You'll Never Hear Them Coming > By Ben Rich Nov 21, 2014 > > Bikers are pack animals by nature. ​ Holy

Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...

2014-12-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:54 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 13 Dec 2014 at 12:48, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: > > > I did like the Honda EVPlus better. It did have 100 mile real world > > range which lasted without noticeable degradation for six years. > > IMO, the E

Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...

2014-12-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Chris Tromley via EV > wrote: > > > > Honda in > > particular sees itself as an engine company. EVs are seen as a threat to > > the status quo. > > Where can I find that

Re: [EVDL] Portable EVSE: Turning over a new Leaf...

2014-12-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: > Interesting. Yet they are also very involved with standards for electric >>> vehicles and plug-in hybrids. I see them all the time in our groups that >>> deal with EV charging. I suspect they are trying to branch out. >>> >> >

Re: [EVDL] Battery post - Best Practice

2014-05-09 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I personally wouldn't trust the 5/16 bolts for anything more than what my tractor dishes out. (Maybe 200A briefly, flexy cables.) Even then I'm very careful not to over-torque the nuts and check them regularly. 550 amps and stiff 2/0 cable is a recipe for a melted post. L posts or automotive po

Re: [EVDL] Vectrix bankruptcy auction June 18

2014-05-10 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I'd be interested to know if any intellectual property is available for sale. Could be very handy for someone who wants to make a small business keeping existing Vectrixes running to have access to drawings and other design documentation. I also wonder about their patents. If no one buys the rig

Re: [EVDL] Vectrix bankruptcy auction June 18

2014-05-10 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
rivate: http://www.cvandewater.info > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > > > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tromley > via EV > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:22 PM > To: Lee Hart; Electric Vehicle Discussion List

Re: [EVDL] article: "Holy s##t!" – the amazing Zero SR electric motorcycle blows our minds

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Wait til they try the Mission R https://www.mission-motorcycles.com/r or the Lightning SuperBike http://lightningmotorcycle.com/. They won't know what hit them. Chris On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Paul Wujek via EV wrote: > A review of the most recent Zero: > > http://www.gizmag.com/zero-sr

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lexus' Anti-Plugin hev Ad, then an unacceptable apology

2014-05-16 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Actually it doesn't take much thought to understand the reasoning here. First and foremost, these companies are run by car guys. To most of them, ICE is an inextricable part of "car". Even if they realize at some level that ICE is not a lasting proposition, they are very aware that a SPECTACULAR

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: spectrum.ieee looks @Tesla-X and its fabulous "Falcon-Doors"

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Those are more generally known as gullwing doors, and Tesla should stop wasting time on them. Sealing can be done, but that's not their main problem. You have to duck under them to enter/exit. If you don't, you whack your head. Since getting into the back of a Tesla X will be a fairly uncommon

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Toyota Drops RAV4-EV-gen2, shifting to h2

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Without wanting to get into a detailed FCV discussion here, I'm puzzled. 1. Last I heard a practical FCV was not possible until some Brand New Stuff was invented, and no one knew if/how/when that would happen. 2. Last I heard there was no way to create H2 that was anywhere near as efficient as j

Re: [EVDL] How I learned to stop worrying and love autonomous-driving & wireless-charging

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Actually I can see developing an automatic hands-free H2 fueling apparatus. It wouldn't be simple, requiring multiple sensors and fail-safes, but it could be done. Not sure it makes sense if FCV range allows a once-a-week fill-up at the neighborhood station. I'm wondering if your between-the-lin

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Their CEO sez "Don't buy the Fiat 500e EV"

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Ben Apollonio via EV wrote: > How exactly is it that Fiat can't produce a teensy car with a tiny battery > for less than $46k when small (i.e. lacking economies of scale) upstart > Tesla is able to rake in 25% gross margins on a massive, high-performance > luxury c

Re: [EVDL] Leaning narrow vehicle.

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I don't know if any of you have seen the iLean concept bike. It uses > bicycle cranks to make a leaning effect. I was thinking of doubling up the > rear wheels using 4 20 inch hub motors. 72v. 80mph top speed. 8 to 11 kw > batte

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > Hello Cor, > > I have seen a "dust to dust" comparison of the inputs necessary to "have" a > particular mdoel of car. > Interesting and not surprising to many EV types, the Prius was found > slightly less environmentally favorable

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Hi Michael, > I don't think anyone here is mad at you - I am certainly not. Michael, Same here, what Cor said. People come at this from different perspectives. Here's mine. Every living thing is self-centered. That's ho

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Danpatgal via EV wrote: > I agree a larger pack (to get say another 20 miles) would be really nice, > that's what I'd ask for before anything else. Dan, Just out of curiosity, can you put on your "what if" hat and tell me if there's a way to have room for anoth

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > We currently have a very business pliant legislature, they are accepting > allowing the exact formulations and nature of the chemicals used to be kept > secret - even suggesting that revealing them would be a felony. Yes, if a > journal

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals & lugs

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > As was posted, in either case (L or the Universal post) I had to be > careful when tightening: only to a point that did not mash the soft lead > too much. After the initial pack break in and connection t

Re: [EVDL] Spark EV owners care-less about fashion-police's ugliest-car ranking

2014-12-20 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:34 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 19 Dec 2014 at 1:47, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > Like beauty, ugly is in the eye, et cetera. Who really cares what other > people think of your EV's appearance? It's down to whether YOU like it. ​Agreed.

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid

2014-12-22 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > Hi Ben, > > What SRPs CEO knows and you will find out is you are diving into a rabbit > hole. It is not a rational world down there, yet. > > I will just talk about batteries. ​Lots of excellent points, I'll just comment on one. ​

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Admits Bolt EV Confusion, ? A r:200mi compliance-EV-gen2 ?

2015-02-27 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
The Bolt/Volt confusion is just another example of refusing to learn from past mistakes. What happens when you call your new model a Nova in Spanish speaking countries? You're telling your customers your car "won't go." Chris On Feb 27, 2015 4:14 AM, "brucedp5 via EV" wrote: > > > % Bolt EV be

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Here's the "elephant in the room" that I haven't seen addressed: When a > self-driving car is involved in a fatal accident, who pays? Who goes to > jail? > > I wouldn't want to be in a self-driving car because when (not "if") > something go

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

2015-04-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Ben Goren wrote: > On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Chris Tromley via EV > wrote: > > In order to improve traffic safety, self-driving cars don't have to be > perfect; they only have to be better than the average human. ​I more or less ag

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: WA Loves Electric Cars, But Gets Very Few

2015-05-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
The problem with compliance cars is they are made by companies that don't want to make them. If I'm going to buy a car, I'll only buy from a company whose heart is in it - not from a company that feels their arm is being twisted, and making them only to gain access to a market. Their priorities a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: R&T more interested in their eats than the Tesla-S70D

2015-05-25 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Actually this story has nothing to do with eats and everything to do with filler for the magazine. I'm betting a deadline was looming and other stories weren't ready in time. Why else do a page on the most boring of driving experiences, driving across the midwest? Trying to spice it up by subjec

Re: [EVDL] DIY EV air conditioning?

2015-06-11 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
If A/C demands aren't great, I've wondered if you could get away with a cooler, some ice packs, some water to carry the "cold" and a circulation pump to run the water through a tubing network installed in a seat cover. I know it sounds crude, but that's how NASA cools astronauts. Almost all the en

Re: [EVDL] DIY EV air conditioning?

2015-06-12 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
-115-VAC-1PH-INPUT-3PH-OUTPUT-11-3424.axd > Likely will run nicely from DC. Certainly cheap to try. > > Bill D. > > > > > On 6/11/2015 6:35 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: >> >> If A/C demands aren't great, I've wondered if you could get away with a >&

[EVDL] Last call for LeSled

2015-06-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
All, Well, it's official - I waited too long. My EV (LeSled - www.evalbum.com/274) got sidelined years ago with a ground fault. Lots of home projects (some pretty major) got in the way. I listed it as for sale on EV album, put it on the EV Tradin' Post and DIYElectricCar. No responses. So thi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Human Taking Over From Computer Crashes Autonomous Leaf

2016-01-27 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
We'll never know all the necessary details of what happened from a report like this, but it does tend to reinforce my concerns about any highly complex control system working in a highly variable environment. It's all about the transitions. Simple, well defined situations are simple to manage. R

Re: [EVDL] Looking for help learning to build EV motor

2016-02-11 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Brad, I am someone who is most certainly NOT an expert in your field, but I try to approach any problem by finding its borders first. I do know that switched reluctance (SR) motors are very enticing due to their simplicity and therefore low cost, but they are mind-numbingly difficult to control w

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Venturi, OSU VBB-3 Electric Racer targets 372mph record 0-60mph:2s

2016-02-11 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Years ago when I was paying attention to this stuff, road racers on slicks could pull 1.2g and higher without any special 'TrackBite'-like coatings on the track. I remember 2g in some situations, but I don't remember if banking was involved. The theory behind coefficient of friction is based on a

Re: [EVDL] Ensure your spent li-ion batteries are properly recycled/disposed-of

2016-02-15 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 7:07 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 14 Feb 2016 at 0:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > One fix would be a law requiring a substantial core deposit on each > battery, > but that would boost the purchase prices of EVs. Not a winner. > ​Seems eas

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Proposed Tesla e-motorcycle concept by designer Serrano

2016-03-02 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Give me a flippin' break. *FAR* too "out there" to have a prayer of reasonable sales figures. Hub center steering has been tried in the marketplace and got few nibbles. Motorcyclists are a conservative lot, even those who like the techy end of the spectrum. I maintain that if Tesla wants to bui

Re: [EVDL] battery box

2016-03-13 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > I'm looking for a source for a weather tight, probably fiberglass, box. > About 4'x6' and 2' high with a lift-up top. Can anyone suggest? Some > custom fiberglass shop? ​The chances that you'd find something really suitable to your app

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 and Leaf EVs among CR's dishonorable mentions

2016-03-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I know that CR has made some boneheaded moves on the past, but their reliability ratings are pretty well regarded. I would not be at all surprised that an i3 is unreliable, since that's a pretty common thing for BMWs. And wasn't it around 2013 that Nissan had their problems with packs in hot regi

Re: [EVDL] $2.85/hr L2 KY utility EVSE> too co$tly to get used

2016-04-17 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 6:26 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > % A Leaf EV charging @6kW = 24mph or ~1gal of $1.76 gas % > > > http://wfpl.org/kentucky-grants-lge-ku-permission-install-public-electric-vehicle-charging-stations/ > More Electric Vehicle Charging Stations Are Coming To Louisville > A

Re: [EVDL] i-MiEV EVs part of Mitsubishi mileage scandal (VW style cheating)

2016-04-22 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I'm also not sure how this is involved with the i-MiEV either. Its range rating is 62 miles IIRC, and I get that or better even down to freezing temps in mixed driving in mine. I heard a news snippet that said this is related to tiny engines. Maybe the 600cc engines for the kei car the i-MiEV is

[EVDL] Solder strength (was: Re: J1772. Solder or crimp?)

2016-04-25 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Solder is mechanically weak, and has a low melting point. It's fine for > little low-power stuff, when there is negligible shock and vibration. It > is, after all, how 99.9% of all electronic connections are made on circuit > boards. :-) >

[EVDL] OT: Molex products (was: Solder strength....)

2016-04-27 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > All this being said, yes crimping is better and my preferred method is > Molex. ​FYI,​ ​I was surprised recently to learn that Molex is now​ owned by Koch Industries. It has changed my approach to using Molex products. There ar

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Upgraded 2016 Tesla-S 90D is the first 300mi/483km production Electric car

2016-05-03 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Pure speculation here, but I'll take a whack. These are EPA tests so speeds, durations, acceleration and deceleration rates are tightly prescribed. I'm guessing a smaller, lighter car won't suffer the disadvantage of yanking roughly 5000# up to speed, and that means it does better in town than on

Re: [EVDL] 72 volt swapable scooter battery

2016-05-10 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
The ebike world uses 18650 batteries these days and they are improving rapidly. I'd go to lunacycle.com. Their 20 ahr 52V packs go for around $600 - $700 depending on your preferences, they include BMS and they'll do customs. Chris I'm looking for 1 to use as craw home type of thing. like 72 vo

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Knockoff.cn motivation> $24k Lit C–1 self-balancing 2whl EV r:150mi ts:100mph

2016-06-21 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I've said it before and I'll repeat it here. A self-balancing motorcycle is a mind-crushingly complex problem to solve. Lit recently brought on a highly qualified controls engineer, but they still haven't shown a video of a prototype doing anything but very slow and ultra-basic moves. In the rea

Re: [EVDL] ev beeper

2016-07-12 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
if it's a scooter it has a handlebar. Just go to a bike store and buy an old fashioned bicycle bell. Self-contained right there on the bar, no wiring, pleasant 'shing-shing' sound. I've even considered using one for my electric car, but it becomes more difficult to operate it remotely. Chris O

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM’s 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-25 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
This whole autonomous vehicle circus has been a PR disaster, thanks in large part to Tesla calling their system "autopilot". No one stops to realize the real autopilot (as used in aircraft) is little more than cruise control. And when you're in the vicinity of anything you could hit, you're not p

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I'm against SDVs now, but I also disagree they are a dead end. The problem here is that it's just plain stupid to try to go from zero autonomy to full autonomy in one rapid sweep. Not only is the tech not ready, the public isn't ready. This is a huge change, and we humans aren't well suited to h

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > On 07/29/2016 08:00 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > >> Trying to jump the gun, or even worse, calling what we have now >> "autopilot" >> is beyond idiotic. I have a great deal of respect for Elon Musk,

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I did not know you need to be a tech junkie > to understand and confirm the on-screen warning message > "You must keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times > and take over the driving as needed" > when you engage "autopilo

Re: [EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

2016-08-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
A Currie E Drive (or similar) setup might work. http://www.electricscooterparts.com/currieelectrodriveelectricbicyclekitparts.html Chris On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:29 PM, ken via EV wrote: > I have a Bike E with 20" back wheel . Where can I find a reasonably > priced wheel thats desgined to b

Re: [EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

2016-08-14 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Just realized you're looking for a 36V solution and the Currie setup is for 24V. Go to http://evdeals.com/Currie%20Kit.htm and see their similar kit and options. Theirs is 24V too, but call Scott at 508-695-3717. I'm guessing some of his motor options could be run at 36V just fine, and you'll ne

Re: [EVDL] Nissan.ca sez 'No' To Leaf-Group-Buy> ticking-off 3700+ EV buyers = a lose-lose

2016-08-30 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I have little doubt that there are all sorts of contractual restrictions regarding who Nissan can sell to directly, what constitutes an acceptable fleet buyer, etc. The only rational way to do this is to contact Nissan first, before putting anyone's name on a list. There is no justifiable reason

Re: [EVDL] ?Is this an EV or Watt?: ?Is it a Volt, Bolt, Prius?> crashed in Canby-OR

2018-11-10 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Looks like a Tesla, S or 3. I'm thinking Model 3. I'm an electrical dolt, but I thought there is no danger in handling an EV in water because there is no potential relative to ground. Even if isolation has been compromised and the body is hot, it would be hard to get two parts of the body at dif

Re: [EVDL] Hardware for my trike electrification. Still need batteries charger and bms.

2018-11-20 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Not sure what the laws are in California, but this vehicle will not qualify as a 'bicycle' (three wheels or less) in legal terms. 750 W is the limit for that. I'm guessing it will be considered a moped, not sure what that means WRT licensing, insurance, helmet requirements, etc. When you say the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (Nonstarter)> $30k HD's LiveWire e-motorcycle r:110mi 0-60mph:3.5s

2019-01-20 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
And Ducati just announced they have an electric motorcycle (EM) that will see production "soon". The EM market is about to go from one player to four in quick succession. The interesting part is that an industry insider recently reported that Zero, the market leader, sold only 750 units in 2018.

Re: [EVDL] (more): EVfire: 2wheel EV.cn Suddenly Bursts Into Flames (v)

2019-02-16 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:15 PM Gail Lucas via EV wrote: > Would it expedite the cooling if fire departments had sacks of crushed > ice they could throw on the battery as the flames die, to prevent > flaring up? > Probably not. If you assume they can maintain typical freezer temperature of -10

Re: [EVDL] Would you buy a used EVSE from this clown?

2019-03-20 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
Are you sure the Pro version upgrade can't be retrofitted to your box? I thought it could. Chris On Mar 20, 2019 6:00 AM, "fred via EV" wrote: > Disclaimer: I have no formal training as a clown, but I do have a red foam > nose gadget. > We've been enjoying for many months an eMotorwerks EVSE wi

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $20k Arcimoto Deliverator delivery-EV> presales-open r:100mi ts:75mph

2019-03-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
The Corbin Sparrow had a bad reputation for tipping over, simply because of its short wheelbase combined with a narrow track. The Deliverator appears to have very similar proportions, except for carrying its 200-ish lbs of cargo (350 less driver) in the worst possible place - high over the rear wh

Re: [EVDL] 48V charger repair: 1980 Comuta-Car

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
If a simple, old-school and cheap solution is desired, I still have the original 48V transformer charger from my Lectric Leopard up in my attic. I bought the car with only a few hundred original miles and immediately upgraded everything to 120V, so it can't have been used more than a few times. I

Re: [EVDL] GNSS spoofing attacks Tesla EVs

2019-06-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
This is an issue that I've been aware of for years now, going back to when it sounded like only paranoid lunatics who love conspiracy theories would be interested. I was concerned enough back then to contact the US Homeland Security departments for infrastructure and cyber threats, and Tesla as we

Re: [EVDL] Harley Davidson

2018-02-04 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: > I saw this in the news todaypeople seem to be of two minds about it > > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-30/ > harley-davidson-is-making-an-electric-motorcycle-after-livewire ​Catching up on my list readin

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