On 01 Mar 2014, at 10:15, LizR wrote:
On 1 March 2014 21:03, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:06, LizR wrote:
On 1 March 2014 03:22, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
Indeed. I have mentioned at times that if you accept
On 2 March 2014 21:33, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Because 1+1=2 is elementary math, learned in high school.
1+1=2 is a fact is a non trivial philosophical statement, which
involved a non trivial notion like fact. I have seen people discussing ad
nauseam on what is a fact, and
On 02 Mar 2014, at 10:49, LizR wrote:
On 2 March 2014 21:33, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Because 1+1=2 is elementary math, learned in high school.
1+1=2 is a fact is a non trivial philosophical statement,
which involved a non trivial notion like fact. I have seen people
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:06, LizR wrote:
On 1 March 2014 03:22, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
Indeed. I have mentioned at times that if you accept Yes Doctor
the rest of comp follows. Which I realise isn't quite true,
? You might elaborate on this.
On 1 March 2014 21:03, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 Mar 2014, at 02:06, LizR wrote:
On 1 March 2014 03:22, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
Indeed. I have mentioned at times that if you accept Yes Doctor the
rest of comp follows.
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
On 26 February 2014 15:16, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Liz
In the MWI you do see spin up every time! ,,, if the definition
of you has been changed to accommodate the fact that you've split.
Well what definition of 'you' do you
On 26 February 2014 17:04, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi David,
On 24 Feb 2014, at 17:32, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 15:50, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck
On 26 Feb 2014, at 19:37, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
provide the algorithm of prediction.
Why? What does that have to do with the price of eggs? FPI is
about the feeling of self and prediction has nothing to do with it.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Sorry, I was guessing something along the lines of FPI = first person
interpretation.
???
!!!
You are the one describing the FPI as a crazy discovery.
No, I'm the one who keeps saying that first person
On 28 Feb 2014, at 15:28, David Nyman wrote:
On 26 February 2014 17:04, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi David,
On 24 Feb 2014, at 17:32, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 15:50, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24
On 1 March 2014 03:22, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:31, LizR wrote:
Indeed. I have mentioned at times that if you accept Yes Doctor the rest
of comp follows. Which I realise isn't quite true,
? You might elaborate on this. What is the rest, and why do you
On 28 Feb 2014, at 19:14, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Sorry, I was guessing something along the lines of FPI = first
person interpretation.
???
!!!
You are the one describing the FPI as a crazy discovery.
No, I'm the one
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Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:26:02 +0100
On 25 Feb 2014, at 07:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Greaves rejects subjective uncertainty. With respect to spin up and
spin down pay special attention
mathematics.
Bruno
All the best
Chris
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:33:21 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
2014-02-26 7:31 GMT+01:00 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com:
Hi Liz
I meant changed from
Hi David,
On 24 Feb 2014, at 17:32, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 15:50, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
wrote:
This is the same as saying that I will
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
provide the algorithm of prediction.
Why? What does that have to do with the price of eggs? FPI is about
the feeling of self and prediction has nothing to do with it.
FPI = first person indeterminacy
Sorry, I was
your hands in the air demanding more and more to unceremoniously
and uncritically ditch is no-ones idea of fun.
All the best
Chris.
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:26:52 +1300
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
From: lizj...@gmail.com
they are arguing and how that is different.
See upper
Quentin
Waving your hands in the air demanding more and more to unceremoniously and
uncritically ditch is no-ones idea of fun.
All the best
Chris.
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:26:52 +1300
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room
.
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:43:33 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
2014-02-25 8:43 GMT+01:00 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com:
Hi Quentin
*That's nonsense, *
The point
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Did the Helsinki Man see Washington and Moscow? Yes.
In the 3-1 view. Not in the 1-1 view.
In who's 1-1 view? You'll probably say in The Helsinki Man's
No. The W-man and the M-m
But that's 2 not one, so if
On 25 Feb 2014, at 01:05, chris peck wrote:
The point is that how probability fits into MWI's determinist
framework, or any TofE really, is still an open question.
Of course, and my point is that comp aggravates that problem, as only
extends the indterminacy from a wave to arithmetic.
On 25 Feb 2014, at 10:43, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
David Deutsch does not reject probability...
Sure he does, he swaps out the Born rule for rational decision
theory (+ amendments to make it compatible with MWI). There isn't
probability, but we should act 'as if' there was. Its what he's
On 25 Feb 2014, at 18:35, John Clark wrote:
provide the algorithm of prediction.
Why? What does that have to do with the price of eggs? FPI is about
the feeling of self and prediction has nothing to do with it.
FPI = first person indeterminacy of result of experience having two
views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:21:00 +0100
On 25 Feb 2014, at 18:35, John Clark wrote:
provide the algorithm of prediction.
Why? What does that have to do with the price of eggs? FPI is about
the feeling of self and prediction has
On 26 February 2014 15:16, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
* In the MWI you do see spin up every time! ,,, if the definition of
you has been changed to accommodate the fact that you've split. *
Well what definition of 'you' do you suggest we use? What is your
criterion
'if the definition of you has been
changed to accommodate the fact that you've split'
Changed from which definition?
All the best
Chris.
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:31:01 +1300
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
From: lizj...@gmail.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
On 26 February 2014 15:53, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
*Assuming comp it appears to be the state(s) that could follow on from
your current brain state via whatever transitions rules are allowed by - I
assume - logical necessity. Perhaps Bruno can explain.*
let me ask
: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:21:00 +0100
On 25 Feb 2014, at 18:35, John Clark wrote:
provide the algorithm of prediction.
Why? What does that have to do with the price of eggs? FPI is
about
the feeling of self and prediction has
On 25 Feb 2014, at 07:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Greaves rejects subjective uncertainty. With respect to spin up and
spin down pay special attention to the point in section 4.1 where,
in discussion of a thought experiment formally identical to Bruno's
step 3, he argues:
What ... should
sees both.
All that 1p,3p,3-1p,1-3p stuff is a rubbishy smoke screen to divert attention
from the simple error you make here, isn't it?
All the best
Chris.
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To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Wed, 26
the best
Chris.
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Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:26:02 +0100
On 25 Feb 2014, at 07:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Greaves rejects subjective
for your has equal probability of happening...)
Quentin
All the best
Chris.
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From: marc...@ulb.ac.be
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:26:02 +0100
On 25 Feb 2014
Chris.
From: allco...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:28:53 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
2014-02-26 7:21 GMT+01:00 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com:
Hi Bruno
Yes, it is the common confusion between 1
.
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From: allco...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:28:53 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
2014-02-26 7:21 GMT+01:00 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com:
Hi Bruno
Yes, it is the common confusion between 1
on
the mind-body problem and much else besides but so what? They do far better
when it comes to probability assignment and subjective uncertainty, imho.
All the best
Chris
From: allco...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:33:21 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room
On 26 February 2014 19:31, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
* I meant changed from our everyday definition, in which we normally
assume there is only one you, which is (or is at least associated with)
your physical structure. Which we generally assume exists in one
(was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 07:56:14 +0100
On 22 Feb 2014, at 21:09, LizR wrote to Clark (with the above
pap =
the FPI of step 3):
The above pap is only a small step in an argument (and it only
reproduces a result obtained in the MWI, anyway).
OK
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
wrote:
This is the same as saying that I will experience all possible
futures in the MWI - but by the time I experience them, of course,
the version of me in each branch will be
On 24 February 2014 15:50, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
*This is the same as saying that I will experience all possible futures
in the MWI - but by the time I
views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
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On 24 February 2014 15:50, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
This is the same as saying
On 25 February 2014 13:05, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Since Everett there have been numerous attempts to smuggle an account of
probability back into the theory, and more recent attempts: Deutsch,
Wallace, Greaves etc., do that by abandoning the concept of subjective
frequencies of me seeing ups and downs but
not probabilities of seeing up or down.
All the best
Chris.
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 13:30:48 +1300
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
From: lizj...@gmail.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
On 25 February 2014 13:05, chris peck
On 25 February 2014 16:54, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
* I can't see why the MWI's existing explanation of probability needs to
have anything added.*
I can't see that MWI has an explanation of probability.
*Probability in the MWI is deduced from the results of
:32:01 +
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
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On 24 February 2014 15:50, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2014, at 02:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
In the MWI you *do* see spin up every time! ,,, if the definition of you
has been changed to accommodate the fact that you've split. Or to put it
another way, you (now) will become you (who sees spin up) and you (who sees
spin down), which by then will be two different people.
--
You received
, 25 Feb 2014 20:26:52 +1300
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
From: lizj...@gmail.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
In the MWI you do see spin up every time! ,,, if the definition of you has
been changed to accommodate the fact that you've split. Or to put
manage that.
All the best
Chris.
From: marc...@ulb.ac.be
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 07:56:14 +0100
On 22 Feb 2014, at 21:09, LizR wrote to Clark (with the above pap =
the FPI of step 3
duplicated. Certainly for me he doesn't manage that.
All the best
Chris.
From: marc...@ulb.ac.be
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 07:56:14 +0100
On 22 Feb 2014, at 21:09, LizR wrote to Clark
On 24 February 2014 01:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
*This is the same as saying that I will experience all possible futures
in the MWI - but by the time I experience them, of course, the version of
me in each branch will be different, and it always seems to me,
On 24 February 2014 14:04, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
* Let's also suppose you don't know which solar system you will be sent
to, and that in fact the matter transmitter is supposed to send you to A or
B with equal probability based on some quantum coin flip. But by
/abs/quant-ph/0312136
All the best
Chris.
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Subject: RE: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 01:04:53 +
Hi Liz
* Let's also suppose you don't know
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Did the Helsinki Man see Washington and Moscow? Yes.
In the 3-1 view. Not in the 1-1 view.
In who's 1-1 view? You'll probably say in The Helsinki Man's, but his
view is just of Helsinki. Perhaps you mean the future 1
The above pap is only a small step in an argument (and it only reproduces
a result obtained in the MWI, anyway).
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:45 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Did the Helsinki Man see Washington and Moscow? Yes.
In the 3-1 view. Not in the 1-1 view.
In who's 1-1 view? You'll probably say in The
On 22 Feb 2014, at 19:45, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Did the Helsinki Man see Washington and Moscow? Yes.
In the 3-1 view. Not in the 1-1 view.
In who's 1-1 view? You'll probably say in The Helsinki Man's,
No. The
On 22 Feb 2014, at 21:09, LizR wrote to Clark (with the above pap =
the FPI of step 3):
The above pap is only a small step in an argument (and it only
reproduces a result obtained in the MWI, anyway).
OK, but the MWI is a big thing, relying on another big thing: QM.
The FPI assumes
On 21 February 2014 16:48, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
*Suppose for the sake of argument that the matter transmitter sends you
to another solar system where you will live out the reminder of your life.
Maybe you committed some crime and this is the consequence, to be
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
if it is about a prediction on 1p events, the specificity is simple: we
have to interview all the copies.
Then don't just talk to the Moscow Man and say that is enough to disprove
the prediction that the Helsinki Man will see
2014-02-21 19:07 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
if it is about a prediction on 1p events, the specificity is simple: we
have to interview all the copies.
Then don't just talk to the Moscow Man and say that is enough
On 21 February 2014 14:48, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
Suppose for the sake of argument that the matter transmitter sends you to
another solar system where you will live out the reminder of your life.
Maybe you committed some crime and this is the consequence, to be
On 21 Feb 2014, at 19:07, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
if it is about a prediction on 1p events, the specificity is
simple: we have to interview all the copies.
Then don't just talk to the Moscow Man and say that is enough to
disprove
On 19 Feb 2014, at 19:36, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Be consistent reject MWI on the same ground... don't bother adding
the argument that you can't meet your doppelganger,
So you want me to defend my case but
On 19 Feb 2014, at 20:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-02-19 19:36 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Be consistent reject MWI on the same ground... don't bother adding
the argument that you can't meet
of another debate, as UDA importantly does
not assume QM.
Bruno
From: allco...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:53:46 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
2014-02-19 19:36 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I can say today that I am the guy having answered your post of last week.
But if duplicating chambers exist then there are lots of people who could
say exactly the same thing, so more specificity is needed.
and
On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:59, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
I can say today that I am the guy having answered your post of
last week.
But if duplicating chambers exist then there are lots of people who
could say exactly the
but as I see it probabilities, however small, get rounded up to 1 in MWI
scenarios.
All the best
Chris.
From: marc...@ulb.ac.be
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:45:39 +0100
On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:59
or at least half
of it.
All the best
Chris.
From: chris_peck...@hotmail.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:48:43 +
Hi Liz
Suppose for the sake of argument that the matter
transmitter sends you
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 03:48:43AM +, chris peck wrote:
My probabilities get assigned in the same way. ie: chance of seeing solar
system A is 1. I can't assign a probability of seeing Solar System B if I
don't know about the possibility of accidents. But,
If I know that there is a
+1100
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Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 03:48:43AM +, chris peck wrote:
My probabilities get assigned in the same way. ie: chance of seeing solar
system A is 1. I
views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:48:43 +
Hi Liz
Suppose for the sake of argument that the matter transmitter sends
you to another solar system where you will live out the reminder of
your life. Maybe you committed some crime
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Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:45:39 +0100
On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:59, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I can say today that I am the guy having
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Be consistent reject MWI on the same ground... don't bother adding the
argument that you can't meet your doppelganger,
So you want me to defend my case but specifically ask me not to use logic
in doing so. No can do.
2014-02-19 19:36 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Be consistent reject MWI on the same ground... don't bother adding the
argument that you can't meet your doppelganger,
So you want me to defend my case but
Chris.
From: allco...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:53:46 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
2014-02-19 19:36 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
You are looking at a geiger counter pointing at a radioactive source. On
average, it clicks about once every other second. Do you expect to hear it
click in the next second?
What is wrong with the above question? It seems to me exactly equivalent in
probability terms to do you expect to see
:53:46 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
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2014-02-19 19:36 GMT+01:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Be consistent reject MWI on the same
' in the mistaken belief that it has a
legitimate place in Everettian MWI.
All the best
Chris.
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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:53:46 +0100
Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
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On 17 Feb 2014, at 19:49, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
what exactly is the question? Be specific and DON'T HIDE BEHIND
PRONOUNS WITH NO CLEAR REFERENT.
The question is what do you [blah blah]
DON'T HIDE BEHIND PRONOUNS
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 17 Feb 2014, at 19:49, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
what exactly is the question? Be specific and DON'T HIDE BEHIND
PRONOUNS WITH NO CLEAR REFERENT.
On 18 Feb 2014, at 19:52, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
if Mr. he is the fellow who is experiencing Helsinki right now
then the correct prediction would be Mr. he will see neither
Washington NOR Moscow.
Simple calculus
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
what exactly is the question? Be specific and DON'T HIDE BEHIND
PRONOUNS WITH NO CLEAR REFERENT.
The question is what do you [blah blah]
DON'T HIDE BEHIND PRONOUNS WITH NO CLEAR REFERENT.
You = the unique 1p
On 15 Feb 2014, at 19:30, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
The 3-1 view is the 3p view on the 1p views, note the plural,
after the duplication.
That is far more convoluted than it need to be, it's really not all
that
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 , Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
A typical observation will be the diary of the guy in W assess that
he is in W, and (perhaps) that he could not have predicted that,
That is incorrect, the Helsinki Man could have successfully predicted
that the Washington
On 16 Feb 2014, at 17:46, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 , Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
A typical observation will be the diary of the guy in W assess
that he is in W, and (perhaps) that he could not have predicted that,
That is incorrect, the Helsinki Man could have
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The 3-1 view is the 3p view on the 1p views, note the plural, after the
duplication.
That is far more convoluted than it need to be, it's really not all that
complicated. After the duplication both the Washington Man
John, I add a comment to my preview post.
On 11 Feb 2014, at 19:47, John Clark wrote:
Then the 1p is of no use to anyone and neither is the 3-1 view
whatever the hell that is supposed to be.
It is a bit unfair, as I introduced that 3-1 notation exactly to
reply to your first attempt of
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