Re: The codical-material universe

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:24 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: *>If someone else can explain the problem that John Clark see, let him or > her helps him.* > So even the originator of the theory can't make sense out of it and asks third parties to figure out exactly what the question asked of the guy in

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If someone else can explain the problem that John Clark see, let him or her helps him. All points below have been answered, and is full or trick to makes things looking more complex, and simultaneously omit the definition given. This concerns, the step 3 of the Universal Dovetailer Argument

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:58 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>So you demand that the first person view of the Moscow man tomorrow >> predict today > > > *> No. I ask this, since day one, to the H-guy; before he pushes the > button.* > Stop talking about "the H-guy" until you tell all of us exactly

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> On 24 Sep 2018, at 00:20, John Clark wrote: > > Bruno Marcha wrote: > > >>Bruno, that's my definition but think long and hard before you agree with > >>it because if you still agree with it in your next post I give you fair > >>warning my next question to you will be "How many cities will

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Bruno Marcha wrote: >>Bruno, that's my definition but think long and hard before you agree with >> it because if you still agree with it in your next post I give you fair >> warning my next question to you will be "How many cities will the Helsinki >> man see?”. > > > *> Only one, from its first

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> On 22 Sep 2018, at 19:11, John Clark wrote: > > > > Bruno, that's my definition but think long and hard before you agree with it > because if you still agree with it in your next post I give you fair warning > my next question to you will be "How many cities will the Helsinki man see?”.

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On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:17 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *you are right, computation needs a notion of change, but not of physical > change, which emerge from the notion of relative change already definable > in arithmetic.* > So you've abandoned the idea mathematics is eternal and universal.

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> On 20 Sep 2018, at 17:09, smitra wrote: > > On 19-09-2018 22:18, John Clark wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:17 AM Bruno Marchal >> wrote: >> The state of a Turing machine is matched to a number and always has and always will be matched that very same number forever. Nothing

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On 19-09-2018 22:18, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:17 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: The state of a Turing machine is matched to a number and always has and always will be matched that very same number forever. Nothing changes. _You can say the same for your state here and now. But

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> On 19 Sep 2018, at 22:18, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:17 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>The state of a Turing machine is matched to a number and always has and > >>always will be matched that very same number forever. Nothing changes. > > >

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On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:17 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>The state of a Turing machine is matched to a number and always has and >> always will be matched that very same number forever. Nothing changes. > > > > *You can say the same for your state here and now. But consciousness is > not supported

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On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:12 AM Brent Meeker wrote: > > *the uncertainty of the Helsinki man before the duplication doesn't > have anything to do with being duplicated. It only has to do with his lack > of knowledge in where he will find himself in the future. He would have > the same

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> On 19 Sep 2018, at 06:08, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/18/2018 9:17 AM, John Clark wrote: >> It was Washington for he Helsinki guy reconstitute in Washington, and he >> admit he could not have predict this in Helsinki. The same for the Moscow >> guy. >> >> Well maybe that's true,

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> On 18 Sep 2018, at 18:17, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:00 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > >>Changes in what? You say electrons, atoms, photons, neutrinos, > >>gravitational waves, time, space and even spacetime are all matter, so the >

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On 9/18/2018 9:17 AM, John Clark wrote: /It was Washington for he Helsinki guy reconstitute in Washington, and he admit he could not have predict this in Helsinki.The same for the Moscow guy./ Well maybe that's true, maybe the Helsinki man was unable to predict that, but then

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Hi all—I've been lurking for awhile and this isn't my primary field, but I work in digital humanities and literary studies, and I've been working on conceptualizing the connections between coding, mathematics/philosophy/logic, and literature. I'm not convinced one way or the other yet about

Re: The codical-material universe

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:00 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>Changes in what? You say electrons, atoms, photons, neutrinos, >> gravitational waves, time, space and even spacetime are all matter, so the >> change can't be with respect to any of them; so what's changing and with >> respect to what? > >

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> On 18 Sep 2018, at 02:17, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/17/2018 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 16 Sep 2018, at 22:31, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/16/2018 11:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: No problem. I can explain why you will need a non computationalist theory

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On 9/17/2018 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Sep 2018, at 22:31, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/16/2018 11:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: No problem. I can explain why you will need a non computationalist theory of mind. Given that there is no evidence at all for primary matter, nor for a

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> On 16 Sep 2018, at 22:31, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/16/2018 11:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> No problem. I can explain why you will need a non computationalist theory of >> mind. >> >> Given that there is no evidence at all for primary matter, nor for a non >> computationalist

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On 9/16/2018 11:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: No problem. I can explain why you will need a non computationalist theory of mind. Given that there is no evidence at all for primary matter, nor for a non computationalist theory of mind, that seems very speculative to me. I am aware that many

Re: The codical-material universe

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 1:07:34 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 15 Sep 2018, at 22:56, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:22 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >>> >>> you claim

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> On 15 Sep 2018, at 22:56, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:22 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>> you claim nonphysical calculations can be performed, but you also say > >>> space and time and

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> On 15 Sep 2018, at 17:26, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:22 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>> you claim nonphysical calculations can be performed, but you also say > >>> space and time and even spacetime are physical, so how can you have > >>>

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On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:22 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> >>> you claim nonphysical calculations can be performed, but you also >>> say space and time and even spacetime are physical, so how can you have >>>

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On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:22 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> you claim nonphysical calculations can be performed, but you also say >> space and time and even spacetime are physical, so how can you have change >> without them and how can you have calculations without change? > > >> *The changes

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On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 11:22:34 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Sep 2018, at 16:09, John Clark > > wrote: > > > > *>Still the same confusion between a computation (a purely mathematical >> notion) and a physical computation, * >> > > I'm not confused at all, I'm very clear

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> On 14 Sep 2018, at 16:09, John Clark wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:28 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>> Speed is a physical attribute. > > >>Then numbers are physical attributes too because 1 Hydrogen atom behaves > >>differently than 2 Hydrogen atoms.

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On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:28 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> *Speed is a physical attribute.* >>> >> > >>Then numbers are physical attributes too because 1 Hydrogen atom >> behaves differently than 2 Hydrogen atoms. >> > *>The number of atoms is physical, yes, but that does not mean that a > number

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> On 13 Sep 2018, at 19:54, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 Bruno Marchal > wrote > >>>>Matter = observable > > >>So adjectives are made of matter > > > Speed is a physical attribute. > > Then numbers are physical attributes too because 1

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> On 12 Sep 2018, at 16:44, John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 5:32 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: >> >>> Matter = observable > >>Speed is observable, is speed matter? > > >Yes, > > So adjectives are made of matter. Speed is a physical attribute. Matter

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 5:32 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *>>> Matter = observable* >> >> >>Speed is observable, is speed matter? > > *>Yes, * > So adjectives are made of matter. >*and it belong to the realm of the quanta. * So numbers are made of numbers too. > >>The qualia red is

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On 9/11/2018 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Sep 2018, at 01:54, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 9/10/2018 9:34 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift >

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> On 11 Sep 2018, at 12:43, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 4:18:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 10 Sep 2018, at 18:34, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 9 Sep

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On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 4:18:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Sep 2018, at 18:34, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday,

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> On 11 Sep 2018, at 01:54, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/10/2018 9:34 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at

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> On 10 Sep 2018, at 20:54, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 6:28 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > Matter = observable > > Speed is observable, is speed matter? Yes, and it belong to the realm of the quanta. It is observable and sharable. > The

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> On 10 Sep 2018, at 18:34, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 5:28:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 8 Sep

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On 9/10/2018 9:34 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift > wrote: On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 5:28:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:53, John

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On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 6:28 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: *> Matter = observable* > Speed is observable, is speed matter? The qualia red is observable, is red matter? > > Primary matter is the doctrine by Aristotle > If I never hear another word about Aristotle I will not in any way feel deprived.

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On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 3:25:53 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 5:28:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:53, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> Bruno Marchal Wrote: >> >>

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> On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:06, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 5:28:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:53, John Clark > wrote: >> >> >> Bruno Marchal Wrote: >> >> > I cannot see primary matter. In fact I am not sure what you mean by >> >

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On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 5:28:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:53, John Clark > > wrote: > > > Bruno Marchal Wrote: > > *> I cannot see primary matter. In fact I am not sure what you mean by >> matter, or by “mathematical-material universe”. [...] I have

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> On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:53, John Clark wrote: > > > Bruno Marchal Wrote: > > > I cannot see primary matter. In fact I am not sure what you mean by matter, > > or by “mathematical-material universe”. [...] I have proven (40 years ago) > > that materialism (the belief in some primary matter,

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> >>> With mechanism, we are mathematical object, and the physical reality is a >>> mathematical phenomenon, so there is no physical object per se. That does >>> not threat the existence of the moon, of galaxies, or bosons and fermions, >>> but such existen

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Philip Thrift > *A working definition of matter: That which stores, transmits, or > executes code.* That's not bad, that's not bad at all. I wish I'd said that! John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe

The codical-material universe

Bruno Marchal Wrote: *> I cannot see primary matter. In fact I am not sure what you mean by > matter, or by “mathematical-material universe”. [...] I have proven (40 > years ago) that materialism (the belief in some primary matter, or > physicalism) and Mechanism are incompatible.* If you don't

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>>>> But >>>> the most startling fact predicted by Mechanim, —the fact that physics is a >>>> statistic on many computations is somehow confirmed by Quantum Mechanics >>>> (without collapse). Then it took me 30 years to confirms this >&g

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lt;https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/08/26/mathematical-pulp-fictionalism/> >>> ] >>> ref: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/ >>> <https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/> >>> >>>

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On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 8:07:51 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/7/2018 5:35 PM, Martin Abramson wrote: > > Are you saying that galaxies etc. moving away ftl are not moving > relative to spacetime because spacetime is expanding at the same scale > factor? Is the universe, as it

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On 9/7/2018 5:35 PM, Martin Abramson wrote: Are you saying that galaxies etc. moving away  ftl  are not moving relative to spacetime because spacetime is expanding at the same scale factor? Is the universe, as it expands, creating vast new amounts of spacetime Yes. Brent or just

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Are you saying that galaxies etc. moving away ftl are not moving relative to spacetime because spacetime is expanding at the same scale factor? Is the universe, as it expands, creating vast new amounts of spacetime or just stretching existing spacetime thinner and thinner? Are there any theories

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This question is something I've wondered about, and it still seems *odd*, but maybe this is the best answer? As the universe expands, why don't galaxies get stretched out? *There is enough matter in a galaxy that the matter within the galaxy is not affected by the expansion of the universe.

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Thanks Brent. You say the space is growing faster than light in a sense but not relative to spacetime. How can space not be relative to spacetime? On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:49 AM Brent Meeker wrote: > The expansion of the universe is not a speed. It's not even measured in > the units of speed.

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sm makes it possible to delineate the indexical geography from what >> are genuinely univarsable laws for the universal machine observable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cf. https://twitter.com/philipthrift/status/1029079439190228992 >> *Mathematical pul

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> On 6 Sep 2018, at 22:01, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:48:53 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:47:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 6 Sep 2018, at 17:04, Philip Thrift > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

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> On 6 Sep 2018, at 21:48, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:47:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 6 Sep 2018, at 17:04, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:23:23 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 5 Sep

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The expansion of the universe is not a speed.  It's not even measured in the units of speed.  It's a dimensionless scale  factor as a function of time.  So if the scale factor increases by 0.1% over some time interval, say a year, the stuff that was 10 lightyears away will now be 10.01

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I'm confused about the universe expanding faster than light speed. Anyone care to explain or cite a ref? Thanks, m.a. On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 4:01 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:48:53 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at

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On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:48:53 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:47:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 6 Sep 2018, at 17:04, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:23:23 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:

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On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:47:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 6 Sep 2018, at 17:04, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:23:23 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 5 Sep 2018, at 18:58, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday,

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> On 6 Sep 2018, at 17:04, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:23:23 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 5 Sep 2018, at 18:58, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:12:49 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 5 Sep

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On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:23:23 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 2018, at 18:58, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:12:49 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday,

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> On 5 Sep 2018, at 18:58, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:12:49 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 2:28:39 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 2 Sep

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On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:12:49 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 2:28:39 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 2 Sep 2018, at 21:32, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday,

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> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 2:28:39 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 2 Sep 2018, at 21:32, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 8:15:01 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 30 Aug

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On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 9:15 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >* Mechanism in cognitive science is incompatible with Mechanism in physics. * There is a mountain of experimental evidence that much of physics is mechanistic and all of cognition is. If you want to prove me wrong all you have to do is tell

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On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 8:15:01 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Aug 2018, at 01:04, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:55:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> Do you have some evidence for doubting CT? It seems that it's >> essentially a

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> On 30 Aug 2018, at 01:04, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:55:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > Do you have some evidence for doubting CT? It seems that it's > essentially a definition of digital computation. So you could offer > some other definition, but it

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59:23 PM UTC-5, ronaldheld wrote: > > AR : Arithmatic Reality > Ronald > > On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 12:08:28 PM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: > >> The codical-material universe: >> >> The Babel of Languages and the Substrate of Nature >> >>

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AR : Arithmatic Reality Ronald On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 12:08:28 PM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: > The codical-material universe: > > The Babel of Languages and the Substrate of Nature > > https://codicalist.wordpress.com/contents/ > > > Im in

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st 30, 2018 at 1:11:12 PM UTC-5, ronaldheld wrote: >> >> This is a hypothesis a non AR, Physicalist can accept? >> Ronald >> >> On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 12:08:28 PM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> The codical-material universe: &g

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What does "AR" stand for? - Philip Thrift On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 1:11:12 PM UTC-5, ronaldheld wrote: > > This is a hypothesis a non AR, Physicalist can accept? > Ronald > > On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 12:08:28 PM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote:

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This is a hypothesis a non AR, Physicalist can accept? Ronald On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 12:08:28 PM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: > The codical-material universe: > > The Babel of Languages and the Substrate of Nature > > https://codicalist.wordpre

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On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:15:50 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 8/29/2018 4:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:55:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> Do you have some evidence for doubting CT? It seems that it's >> essentially a definition of digital

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On 8/29/2018 4:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:55:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: Do you have some evidence for doubting CT?  It seems that it's essentially a definition of digital computation.  So you could offer some other definition, but it would need

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On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 4:55:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > Do you have some evidence for doubting CT? It seems that it's > essentially a definition of digital computation. So you could offer > some other definition, but it would need to be realisable. > > Brent > > On 8/29/2018

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Do you have some evidence for doubting CT?  It seems that it's essentially a definition of digital computation.  So you could offer some other definition, but it would need to be realisable. Brent On 8/29/2018 12:12 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: also thought by some in what I call the UCNC gang

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and Natural Computation : https://ucnc2018.lacl.fr/ ]. - Philip Thrift On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 11:08:28 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > The codical-material universe: > > The Babel of Languages and the Substrate of Nature > > https://codicalist.wordpress.com/c

The codical-material universe

The codical-material universe: The Babel of Languages and the Substrate of Nature https://codicalist.wordpress.com/contents/ Im in the "process" is writing an ebook as a collection of"Notes", now a list of 94. The simple thesis: All is matter, but a;; matter has c