On 27 Oct 2014, at 21:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/27/2014 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What remains amazing is the negative amplitude of probability, but
then that is what I show being still possible thanks to the
presence of an arithmetical quantization in arithmetic, at the
place
On 25 October 2014 06:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
And doesn't such a god exist necessarily in the UD? And doesn't the
egomanical, despotic god of Abraham also exist necessarily? As well as all
the gods of Olympus and the Norse gods and the Hindu gods...
Is this true? And do
I have not seen any discussion of what Bruno calls the Gaussian nature of
comp or MWI with which he claims that his beliefs in this universe are not
found in the negative in other universes of the multiverse. I referred to
this as the GWI of reality and suggested that it might be consistent with
On 27 Oct 2014, at 13:05, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I have not seen any discussion of what Bruno calls the Gaussian
nature of comp or MWI with which he claims that his beliefs in this
universe are not found in the negative in other universes of the
multiverse.
It is like the quantum white
On 27 Oct 2014, at 10:57, LizR wrote:
On 25 October 2014 06:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
And doesn't such a god exist necessarily in the UD? And doesn't the
egomanical, despotic god of Abraham also exist necessarily? As well
as all the gods of Olympus and the Norse gods and
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 27 Oct 2014, at 13:05, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I have not seen any discussion of what Bruno calls the Gaussian nature of
comp or MWI with which he claims that his beliefs in this universe are not
found in the
On 10/27/2014 2:57 AM, LizR wrote:
On 25 October 2014 06:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
And doesn't such a god exist necessarily in the UD? And doesn't the
egomanical,
despotic god of Abraham also exist necessarily? As well as all the gods of
On 10/27/2014 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What remains amazing is the negative amplitude of probability, but then that is what I
show being still possible thanks to the presence of an arithmetical quantization in
arithmetic, at the place we need the probabilities.
I don't recall you having
Hi Brent,
I recall reading a few papers that discussed this question. I think that
one can only obtain Hermiticity http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hermitian
with complex valued amplitudes. Self-adjointness does not obtain very
easily
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM, meekerdb
On 28 October 2014 08:51, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/27/2014 2:57 AM, LizR wrote:
On 25 October 2014 06:16, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
And doesn't such a god exist necessarily in the UD? And doesn't the
egomanical, despotic god of Abraham also exist
On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:16, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/24/2014 8:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Oct 2014, at 17:17, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 10/8/2014 5:07 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, meekerdb
On 09 Oct 2014, at 17:17, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/8/2014 5:07 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 10/8/2014 10:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Oct 2014,
On 10/24/2014 8:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Oct 2014, at 17:17, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/8/2014 5:07 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, meekerdb
On 20 Oct 2014, at 21:42, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/20/2014 9:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Oct 2014, at 22:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/19/2014 8:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in
something then you believe in it.
What he's said is that
On 19 Oct 2014, at 22:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/19/2014 8:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in something
then you believe in it.
What he's said is that atheists defend/support/reinforce the same
idea/conception of god that the literalist or
On 10/20/2014 9:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Oct 2014, at 22:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/19/2014 8:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in something then you believe
in it.
What he's said is that atheists defend/support/reinforce the same
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in something then
you believe in it.
What he's said is that atheists defend/support/reinforce the same
idea/conception of god that the literalist or fundamentalist abrahamic
religions use.
Atheists can't say there is no God without defining
On 18 Oct 2014, at 07:22, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/16/2014 12:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Oct 2014, at 13:23, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Aha! Now what of Boltzmann Brains and how this topic is
undervalued by the intellects here.
The UD is more general than the Boltzman
On Thursday, October 16, 2014, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/16/2014 12:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/15/2014 7:25 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Bruno
On 20 October 2014 04:23, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 16, 2014, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
And to believe that something does not exist, you need a precise version
of it.
No, you just need a definite version. The god I don't believe in is the
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20 October 2014 04:23, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 16, 2014, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
And to believe that something does not exist, you need a precise
version of it.
No, you
On 10/19/2014 8:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in something then you
believe in it.
What he's said is that atheists defend/support/reinforce the same idea/conception of god
that the literalist or fundamentalist abrahamic religions use.
On 10/19/2014 8:23 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thursday, October 16, 2014, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/16/2014 12:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/15/2014 7:25 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On
On 10/19/2014 9:33 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/19/2014 8:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in something
then you
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/19/2014 8:12 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
I don't recall Bruno ever csaying if you don't believe in something then
you believe in it.
What he's said is that atheists defend/support/reinforce the same
idea/conception of
On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:53, LizR wrote:
On 16 October 2014 17:00, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
I suggest that believing and not believing in anything is consistent
with MWI (and therefore comp) for if you believe something in one
world, you will fail to believe in it in some
Glashow's Crazy
idea, but is it crazy enough to be true?
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On 17 October 2014 03:54, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:44 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like doublethink to mewhich was of course a virtue and a
necessity if you lived on Airstrip One.
Yes but without doublethink how could we have
On the subject of atheists and whether they have a definite concept of god,
etc etc --- well, atheists are (in my experience) dogmatic that they are
sure there is nothing to the universe(s) except something like matter,
energy, space and time (or a quantum field, vectors in Hilbert space, or
On 16 Oct 2014, at 16:39, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:44 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like doublethink to mewhich was of course a virtue and a
necessity if you lived on Airstrip One.
Right. If I remember correctly, peculiar machine is
On 16 Oct 2014, at 16:48, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com
wrote:
Hi Telmo,
You wrote: If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly,
wouldn't it require that you yourself had forgotten about the
discussion?
On Monday, October 6, 2014 7:15:44 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote:
Here's an interesting interview of a philosopher who is interested in the
question of
whether God exists. The interesting thing about it, for this list, is
that God is
implicitly the god of theism, and is not one's reason for
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 16:39, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:44 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like doublethink to mewhich was of course a virtue and a
necessity if you lived on
On 16 Oct 2014, at 18:27, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/16/2014 12:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence
of Santa Claus you must have a definite idea of what Santa Claus
refers to and therefore you
[SPK]
I have a suspicion as to how this might happen. I think that it may be
evidence of part of Bruno's argument that we are not single computations.
If our individual minds span over all of the brains that could
implement them and each brain is tied into a single physical world, then so
On 16 Oct 2014, at 18:43, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/16/2014 12:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/15/2014 7:25 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you
On 10/17/2014 2:01 AM, LizR wrote:
On the subject of atheists and whether they have a definite concept of god, etc etc ---
well, atheists are (in my experience) dogmatic that they are sure there is nothing to
the universe(s) except something like matter, energy, space and time (or a quantum
On 10/17/2014 8:01 AM, zibb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, October 6, 2014 7:15:44 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote:
Here's an interesting interview of a philosopher who is interested in the
question of
whether God exists. The interesting thing about it, for this list, is that
God is
On 10/16/2014 12:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Oct 2014, at 13:23, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Aha! Now what of Boltzmann Brains and how this topic is undervalued by the intellects
here.
The UD is more general than the Boltzman brain. It contains the web of all Boltzmann
Sounds like doublethink to mewhich was of course a virtue and a
necessity if you lived on Airstrip One.
On 16 October 2014 18:21, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:28 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I works with house and Brent
am
Subject: Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence
of God anymore?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
wrote:
Are you at war with Islam?
No, I'm not at war with anyone.
Why should God put terror in your heart?
Because God
Subject: Re: Do today's philosophers even think about the existence
of God anymore?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
I suggest to define God by either the physical universe OR what
is at the origin of the physical universe,
Then if modern
On 15 Oct 2014, at 18:56, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
I suggest to define God by either the physical universe OR what
is at the origin of the physical universe,
Then if modern cosmologists are even close to being
On 16 Oct 2014, at 01:29, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
wrote:
The stupidity prize you made up is clearly yours to claim,
Oh I've said plenty of stupid thinks in my time, but I don't think I
can compete with Bruno's Atheism, as
On 16 Oct 2014, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of
Santa Claus you must have a definite idea of what Santa Claus
refers to and therefore you do believe in Santa Claus. A curious
inference for a logician.
Brent, are you trying
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/15/2014 7:25 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence
of Santa Claus you must have a definite idea of what
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:32, LizR wrote:
Is this a fair comment, Bruno?
No. See my answer to Brent. Tell me if you see the point. I have never
said that atheists believe in God, only that they share the same
concept of God than the (fundamentalist) christians. I only say that
atheists
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:40, LizR wrote:
I don't believe that's what Bruno means
Thanks God!
Bruno
(which if I'm wrong means I DO believe that's what he
means.cleardot[1].gif..)
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On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to
The key point is that atheist don't believe in God, but believe that
God deos not exist. But to have such a belief you need to believe that
you have the right notion of God, and this is what they share with the
christian: the same conception of God, even if it is to assert its non
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi Telmo,
One event involved an email exchange that I has with two people. We
where discussing theories of emergent space-time. Nothing really
consequential. It didn't go anywhere as on of the persons
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Hi Telmo,
You wrote: If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly,
wouldn't it require that you yourself had forgotten about the discussion?
That is what I thought at first as well and concluded that it was just a
misremembering or delusion. But I could not shake how well
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:44 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like doublethink to mewhich was of course a virtue and a
necessity if you lived on Airstrip One.
Right. If I remember correctly, peculiar machine is inaccurate but not
necessarily inconsistent.
So you have to
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi Telmo,
You wrote: If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly,
wouldn't it require that you yourself had forgotten about the discussion?
That is what I thought at first as well and
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:44 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like doublethink to mewhich was of course a virtue and a
necessity if you lived on Airstrip One.
Yes but without doublethink how could we have religion? And how could a
logician say Atheism, as I know it, is a slight
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Educate yourself by reading the excellent book by Lawrence M Krauss A
Universe From Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing.
It assumes still enough physicalism so that he put still some magic in
the brain.
Hi Telmo,
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stephen Paul King
stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:
Hi Telmo,
You wrote: If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly,
wouldn't it require that you
On 10/16/2014 12:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of Santa Claus you
must have a definite idea of what Santa Claus refers to and therefore you do believe
in Santa Claus. A curious
On 10/16/2014 12:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Oct 2014, at 05:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/15/2014 7:25 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to
On 10/16/2014 12:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The key point is that atheist don't believe in God, but believe that God deos not exist.
But to have such a belief you need to believe that you have the right notion of God, and
this is what they share with the christian: the same conception of God,
On 16 Oct 2014, at 17:20, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Educate yourself by reading the excellent book by Lawrence M
Krauss A Universe From Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than
Nothing.
It assumes still enough
On 16 October 2014 17:00, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
I suggest that believing and not believing in anything is consistent with
MWI (and therefore comp) for if you believe something in one world, you
will fail to believe in it in some other world.
That's equivalent to extending
Hi Stephen,
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net
wrote:
Hi Brent,
I have had a couple of experiences that proved to me that there exists
something like the theist God. Things that I can not explain otherwise are
some kind of divine intervention that
Aha! Now what of Boltzmann Brains and how this topic is undervalued by the
intellects here.
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On 15 Oct 2014, at 01:30, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
I suggest to define God by either the physical universe OR what
is at the origin of the physical universe,
Then if modern cosmologists are even close to being correct
Hi Telmo,
One event involved an email exchange that I has with two people. We where
discussing theories of emergent space-time. Nothing really consequential.
It didn't go anywhere as on of the persons said that I had to wait for his
paper to be published for further information on his theory.
.
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On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Bruno Marchal marc
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I suggest to define God by either the physical universe OR what is at
the origin of the physical universe,
Then if modern cosmologists are even close to being correct God is not
omniscient, God isn't even very smart,
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
which again confirm my point (you know the one which trigger your
bot-like answer).
If you don't like my bot-like answer then stop making the exact same
bot-like accusation; I give the stupidity prize to Atheism,
article on ARXIV I'd
Rather See One Than Be One.).
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On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
wrote:
The stupidity prize you made up is clearly yours to claim,
Oh I've said plenty of stupid thinks in my time, but I don't think I can
compete with Bruno's Atheism, as I know it, is a slight variant of
christianism.
I think I can see what he means, whether or not you agree with him.
On 16 October 2014 12:29, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
wrote:
The stupidity prize you made up is clearly yours to claim,
Oh I've said plenty
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of Santa Claus you must
have a definite idea of what Santa Claus refers to and therefore you do believe in Santa
Claus. A curious inference for a logician.
Brent
On 10/15/2014 6:29 PM, LizR wrote:
I think I can see what he
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of
Santa Claus you must have a definite idea of what Santa Claus refers to
and therefore you do believe in Santa Claus. A curious inference for a
logician.
On 10/15/2014 7:25 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of Santa
Claus you
must have a definite idea of what Santa Claus
Is this a fair comment, Bruno?
On 16 October 2014 15:00, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of
Santa Claus you must have a definite idea of what Santa Claus refers to
and therefore you do believe in Santa Claus. A curious
I don't believe that's what Bruno means (which if I'm wrong means I DO
believe that's what he means.[image: Inline images 1]..)
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Bruno seems to think that if you fail to believe in the existence of
Santa Claus you must
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:28 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I works with house and Brent too. What's curious is that failing to
believe in anything implies that you do believe in it. I suppose it goes
along with the spirit of everything. If I can think of it clearly enough
to
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On 14-Oct-2014, at 5:03 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
If the Quran has told Muslims to put terror into the hearts of the
unbelievers
On 12 Oct 2014, at 17:02, Samiya Illias wrote:
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wrote:
On 09 Oct 2014, at 21:06, Samiya Illias wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at
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On 10 Oct 2014, at 05:40, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 10-Oct-2014, at 3:21 am, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Samiya, I did not participate in the sequence about
On 12 Oct 2014, at 18:33, Samiya Illias wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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On 10 Oct 2014, at 20:37, Samiya Illias wrote:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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On 10 Oct 2014, at 00:21, John Mikes
On 14-Oct-2014, at 3:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
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On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 10 Oct 2014, at 20:37, Samiya Illias wrote:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Bruno
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wrote:
On 14-Oct-2014, at 3:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 12 Oct 2014, at 18:33, Samiya Illias wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 10 Oct 2014, at
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:33 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
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On 10/12/2014 2:35 PM, LizR wrote:
I imagine most philosophers don't think about God because
today's philosophers even think about the existence of God
anymore?
On 14-Oct-2014, at 3:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 12 Oct 2014, at 18:33, Samiya Illias wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 10 Oct 2014, at 20:37
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On 14-Oct-2014, at 12:51 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there something like an internet publicity chapter in the Qu'ran (I
assume there must be some things related to men of
On 14-Oct-2014, at 6:28 pm, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
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Are you at war with Islam?
No, I'm not at war with anyone.
Why should God put terror in your heart?
Because God is obviously a sadist and gets off on bondage. Why else would
God spend a infinite number of years
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Are you at war with Islam?
No, I'm not at war with anyone
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Are you at war with Islam
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John, Instead of God, what do you propose as a substitute for all the
awful suffering you have accurately, cited?
That's asking a awful lot of me, I don't have a solution that will
eliminate the
Very Good.
Thanks
Mitch
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On 13 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
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On 10/12/2014 2:35 PM, LizR wrote:
I imagine most philosophers don't think about God because God isn't
a very good explanation for anything. You just have to
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If the Quran has told
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Consider the following verses of Chapter
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Hi Brent,
I have had a couple of experiences that proved to me that there exists
something like the theist God. Things that I can not explain otherwise are
some kind of divine intervention that saved my life. Could there be an
explanation that is completely secular? I am open to such, but
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