On 20 Aug 2013, at 14:13, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
Also I believe that 9/11 was a good thing,
That's gross.
albeit it would have been better if Bin Laden had focusses only on
legitimate military targets like the White House, the US Congress,
the Senate and the Pentagon.
My bag of evide
nocidalist (if I may coin the word) of all time committed his
> crimes more than 800 years ago, and without modern technology.
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
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> Subject
his crimes more than 800 years ago,
and without modern technology.
-Chris
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And yet the greatest mass murderer of all history
Chris de Morsella wrote:
> I am just asking you to acknowledge you were incorrect in characterizing
> the popular and democratically elected leaders of sovereign states as "two
> bit" leaders.
>
Would you prefer a "Banana Republic Leaders"? In Iran in 1953 women, half
the human race, were not al
o way back when"
Do you see the difference?
I think having a go at people for taking you at your word is foolish.
All the best.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 03:07:46 +0200
From: smi...@zonnet.nl
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Chris
I can already hear you shouting: 'What a load of unfalsifiable pseudo
scientific hogwash!', right?
All the best.
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:24:27 +0200
> From: smi...@zonnet.nl
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherh
ing to balance outcomes in order to quantify the moral quality
> of an act. Typically the fact an event like 9/11 can, through some
> specious reasoning, be equated to a 'good' has been regarded as a
> reason to abandon the kind of reasoning you are fumbling with. But I
> s
;Supporting the Nazis was the right thing to do way back when"
Do you see the difference?
I think having a go at people for taking you at your word is foolish.
All the best.
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 03:07:46 +0200
> From: smi...@zonnet.nl
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> S
ubborn to acknowledge a few thousand years of
moral philosophy and rather than stand on the shoulders of giants
prefer to swill around in the gutter. This is why John is right to
call you an ass. Your 'arguments' show no more moral wit than a
donkey.
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On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella wrote:
> I was correcting your mischaracterization of two democratically elected and
> popular leaders who were overthrown in bloody CIA backed coups and replaced
> by fascist dictators
>
>> Ye
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Morality is an ill defined concept, you can just as well invoke
religion. I never appeal to any notion of "morality", wh
"And I have better ways to allocate my time than that."
Coming from a cuckoo clock/roulette wheel... LOL.
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Morality is an ill defined concept, you can just as well invoke
religion. I never appeal to any notion of "morality", when I say that
something is "good", then I have some specific outcome in mind. I think
I did explain that.
An alien visiting the Earth may well conclude that the "right" thin
Citeren meekerdb :
On 8/25/2013 9:36 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have
happened, it ended up exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they
were.
That's sort of like saying it's good that the Nazi's killed all those
people in death camps
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As someone who voted for Al Gore in 2000 (he liked hydrogen
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella wrote:
> > I was correcting your mischaracterization of two democratically elected
> and popular leaders who were overthrown in bloody CIA backed coups and
> replaced by fascist dictators
>
Yes Chris, the CIA staged those coups, but some countries violently
m guessing they are planning some
nasty surprises for the US, which will no doubt make Smitra all jolly.
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corruption in politics (US election
ilto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
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On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Chris de Morsella
wrote:
>> And yes half a century ago the CIA over
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
> >> And yes half a century ago the CIA over through some 2 bit leaders in
>> Chile and Iran, big deal.
>>
> > John you are either grossly ignorant of history, or squeeze it like
> toothpaste through the aperture of your ideological point o
A professional ass who goes by the pseudonym because
he's understandably too embarrassed to give his real name wrote:
> Agree or disagree with me, but it's something that can be debated.
>
Dear Mr. Ass
I'm a bit confused by your use of the word "debated". In your previous post
you proved your
erizon.net
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On 8/25/2013 9:36 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl
wrote:
If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing
to have happened, it ended up exposing the fasci
On 8/25/2013 9:36 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened, it ended up
exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they were.
That's sort of like saying it's good that the Nazi's killed all those people in death
camps because that exposed
Of John Clark
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Chris de Morsella
wrote:
Fascism unlike Communism (at the level of lip service at least) never
preache
oming from someone who's blood relatives were slain by dear
Adolf. In fact, I am betting had not the Furher decided to turn
against his chum, Stalin (Dzugadashvilli) the socialists and the
national socialists would be fine friends. I would reccomend The
Bloodlands, as a history book of
, August 25, 2013 9:53 AM
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Chris de Morsella
wrote:
Fascism unlike Communism (at the level of lip service at least) never preached
a Universal Fascist state – an 1000
mind in areas of
discussion that do not involve your own peculiar political beliefs?
-Chris
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apply to your
own person.
-Chris
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A professional a
Because I at least explain why that's the case. Agree or disagree with
me, but it's something that can be debated. You, on the other hand, are
an ideologue who is not capable of reading past the first sentence if
that looks like contradicting whatever you believe in.
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A professional ass who goes by the pseudonym because
he's understandably too embarrassed to give his real name wrote:
> The modern history of Guatemala was decisively shaped by the
> U.S.-organized invasion and overthrow of [blah blah]
>
Dear Mr. Ass
Once somebody knows that you said "supportin
https://sites.google.com/site/faydowkerarchive2003/home/mariarosario
"The modern history of Guatemala was decisively shaped by the
U.S.-organized invasion and overthrow of the democratically elected
regime of Jacobo Arbenz in June 1954. Since that time, while Guatemala
has remained securely wi
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM, wrote:
> With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened
>
You sir are an ass.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>
> Fascism unlike Communism (at the level of lip service at least) never
> preached a Universal Fascist state – an 1000 year Reich of one tribe over
> other inferior races maybe, but that idea lacks universal appeal.
>
And lip servic
If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have
happened, it ended up exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they were.
The Neo-Con ideology was defeated on the battlegrounds of Iraq. It is
sad that it had to happen that way with all the innocent victims in the
US and Iraq, but I
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:05 PM, wrote:
> With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened
You sir are an ass.
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If I think that: "With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have
happened, it ended up exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they were.
The Neo-Con ideology was defeated on the battlegrounds of Iraq. It is
sad that it had to happen that way with all the innocent victims in the
US and Iraq, but I
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 wrote:
> With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened,
You sir are an ass.
John K Clark
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With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have happened, it ended up
exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they were. The Neo-Con ideology
was defeated on the battlegrounds of Iraq. It is sad that it had to
happen that way with all the innocent victims in the US and Iraq, but I
believe that the
Sex would be more interesting, purely, from a Hugh Everett the 3rd point of
view of course.
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To talk about politics in a group is
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:09 AM, wrote:
> Supporting the Nazis was the right thing to for the Arabs back then.
> [...] Also I believe that 9/11 was a good thing
You sir are an ass.
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anished. Your support of the Islamist agenda (De Facto) is
> indeed, troubling.
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>
> In these sorts of polls the
Your support of the Islamist agenda (De Facto) is
indeed, troubling.
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In these sorts of polls the proper context is missing. Then you can
easily f
hris de Morsella
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Jabotinsky, who is one of the most important historical figures of the
development of Zionism in Israel was a great and open admirer of Mussolini and
of the fascist ideolo
On 8/22/2013 6:39 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Nazism took it somewhere much darker, but Fascism already was exulting the fever pitch
of ethno-nationalism.
Fascism may have become a generic word we use now a days for that kind of
totalitarianism, but in its time and in history, time after ti
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There's a lot of difference between admiring Fascism and adm
s evolved over the course of
history since their times.
-Chris
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On 8/22/2013 4:47 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Hitler invented nothing
Yes, he didn't invent anti-semitism. That was invented by the Catholic Church in the
Spanish Iquisition and by Martin Luther. But Hitler made great use of it.
Brent
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Its a solid majoritarian opinion by the Umah (Isla
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The Al Bana brothers who essentially started up the MB, as opposed to
similar
Corona
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Just follow the tv of muslim countries, and specially, the political debates.
Google: hitler arab countries television
It can not be otherwhise since
cks, or
ideological correctness.
Mitch
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More hateful stereotyping of a diverse group numbering over a billion human
beings by our very o
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Just follow the tv of muslim countries, and specially, the political debates.
Google: hitler arab countries television
It can not be otherwhise since te nazis and the muslims share the same
having
>> >>> supported the Nazis back then.
>> >>>
>> >>> In the end, Roger's brain is just executing a prgram, whatever is
>> >>> against his moral values is encoded in his brain and that information
>> >>> did not co
>>> multiverse), Roger would have supported Nazi policies himself. In fact
> >>> we can be sure that such a Nazi version of Roger exsts in the
> >>> multiverse, because all possible programs exists.
> >>>
> >>> Saibal
> >>>
>
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:13:43 PM UTC+10, stathisp wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2013, Pierz wrote:
>
>> "...since first of all the additional happiness in those non-WW3
>> branches..." What I mean of course is the additional happiness in the WW3
>> branches. The non-WW3 branch
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Hi Brent
>>But I don't think this is just a moral evolution. I think it is driven by
technology. As societies become richer they become less competitive and
insular and more compassionate and open.
I agr
other widespread diminution of
>>ease and wealth occurs there will likely be a corresponding diminution in
>>empathy and compassion.
I agree.
All the best
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Just follow the tv of muslim countries, and specially, the political
debates.
Google: hitler arab countries television
It can not be otherwhise since te nazis and the muslims share the same main
goal. you know.
Abu
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I mean to tell you nothing. I don't want to waste my time
2013/8/22 Chris de Morsella
Do you mean to tell me that the foundation of your "facts" is the number of
search res
e of a fool
> than even I thought you were?
>
> Did I just call you a fool? Yes, you heard me, I just did.
> Have a great day stewing in your hatred of others not like you.
> -Chris
>
>
>
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> *Sen
red of others not like you.
-Chris
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Plugging most Arab dictators name these days in Arabic yields mass
dissatisfac
Plugging most Arab dictators name these days in Arabic yields mass
dissatisfaction equating them to tyrants like Hitler. But what about
“Hitler” by itself in Arabic into Google? What will you find?
https://www.google.es/search?q=%D9%87%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%B1&oq=%D9%87%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%B1&aqs=chrome.0.69i
Just follow the tv of muslim countries, and specially, the political
debates.
Google: hitler arab countries television
It can not be otherwhise since te nazis and the muslims share the same
main goal. you know.
Abu Mazen, the leader of the PLO after Yasif Arafat wrote its doctoral
thesis at the
where applaud your way of non-thinking.
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Rather than speak economic history, whic
push polls maybe
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On 8/21/2013 11:48 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That Hitler is the most respected
ctive readings by
Progressive progagandists seekinng the demise of the US and a few other
nations. Which is really the whole point.
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M
ted Nazi policies himself. In fact
>>we can be sure that such a Nazi version of Roger exsts in the
>>multiverse, because all possible programs exists.
>>
>>Saibal
>>
>>
>>Citeren spudb...@aol.com:
>>
>>> I do not see why Roger, needs, politics
On 8/21/2013 11:48 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
That Hitler is the most respected western figure in the muslim word is a fact.
What is the evidence for this? Are there polls?
Brent
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On 8/21/2013 7:01 AM, chris peck wrote:
But, in any case, yes, our descendants will view some of our norms and values as
troubling. Just as we do our ancestors. This is because there is a gentle creep away
from barbarity rather than towards it.
But I don't think this is just a moral evolution.
d have supported Nazi policies himself. In fact
> we can be sure that such a Nazi version of Roger exsts in the
> multiverse, because all possible programs exists.
>
> Saibal
>
>
> Citeren spudb...@aol.com:
>
> > I do not see why Roger, needs, politics in this forum, but
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Hitler continues to be the most respected historical figure in muslim
countries, as well as in muslim
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Nazism would have gobbled down so many races and ethnic group that
eventually it would have gone after yours? It's the lo
just executing a prgram, whatever is
>>>> against his moral values is encoded in his brain and that information
>>>> did not come out of thin air. Had history run a different course (and
>>>> history has run a different course in different sectors of the
>>>
57 pm
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Roger may start a discussion on politics and presents some very narrow
inded views, but I can present a different view that may be totally
olitically incorect but is i.m.o. the right view.
Not only is the 3rd World better off with WWII h
t; From: smi...@zonnet.nl
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> Subject: Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood
>
> A rapid descent into extremism can be caused by factors such as
> economic desperation. However, you can also have a gradual change in
> society and then peopl
evil it has conspired against the wonderful, and innocent, people's
> of the 3rd world. I am guessing that when the ISI strikes India,
> using enhanced fission devices, he will be content that they detonate
> it only on legitimate military targets? Enjoy.
>
>
>
> -Origi
Because it happened in some alternate universe J
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Self-contradictory. You've got to follow your own theories to their logical
conclusions. *Which* Western/third world would have been better off if WW3
hadn&#
has conspired against the wonderful, and innocent, people's
>> > of the 3rd world. I am guessing that when the ISI strikes India,
>> > using enhanced fission devices, he will be content that they detonate
>> > it only on legitimate military targets? Enjoy.
has to be ruined for the
> > evil it has conspired against the wonderful, and innocent, people's
> > of the 3rd world. I am guessing that when the ISI strikes India,
> > using enhanced fission devices, he will be content that they detonate
> > it only on legitimate
13 8:13 am
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Also I believe that 9/11 was a good thing, albeit it would have been
etter if Bin Laden had focusses only on legitimate military targets
ike the White House, the US Congress, the Senate and the Pentagon.
iteren Roger Clough :
The Na
ssion devices, he
will be content that they detonate it only on legitimate military targets?
Enjoy.
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Also I believe that 9/11 was a good
Also I believe that 9/11 was a good thing, albeit it would have been
better if Bin Laden had focusses only on legitimate military targets
like the White House, the US Congress, the Senate and the Pentagon.
Citeren Roger Clough :
The Nazi history of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood
https://
Supporting the Nazis was the right thing to for the Arabs back then. In
fact, in India you had a similar sentiment, some people wanted to
support the Japanese in order to liberate their country. This is not
something the typical Westerner knows about, but in India these people
have a lot of res
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