Anonyff writes: snipped
I have had the experience, over the long years, of becoming very
unboounded and, as it says in the 9th mandala, liquid, loveable, and
wise. It never lasted more than maybe five minutes. During those
moments I experienced what I can only describe as an infinite flow, a
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--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMO this whole notion of non-attachment is merely a concept and who
knows if anyone here truly even understands it and even if they
could,
could they really explain it in such a way that the listener would
a)
be able to
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Anonyff writes: snipped
I have had the experience, over the long years, of becoming very
unboounded and, as it says in the 9th mandala, liquid, loveable,
and
wise. It never lasted more than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some
text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
takethem out of samadhi. But that's the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To bring up Suzanne Segal again, that's an admonition she
hammered toward the end of her book -- seeing things
as they really are. But she never elaborated on it.
Sometimes I think the work of Byron Katie is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
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What really impressed me about the teachings is an experience of the
veda I had once, very powerful and definately real as I couldn't have
imagined it if I'd tried. The thing is, the only veda I knew of at
the time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
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It's interesting to hear that the power of persuasion might
be at work here, as I had a series of experiences early on
in my career that showed me a text book step-by-step
evolution, clearly deliniated states of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another man I met had an appearance of Shirdi Sai Baba.
Again he had never seen a picture of him, had nothing to
do with Hinduism, and only recognized him when he saw the
picture later in a Sai Baba center (while he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just look at the cross-
cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native
Americans cognize Shiva and Brahma when they have
visions? Do people brought up Catholic cognize
Krishna when they have visions? No, of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
Another man I met had an appearance of Shirdi Sai Baba.
Again he had never seen a picture of him, had nothing to
do with Hinduism, and only
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Just look at the cross-
cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native
Americans cognize Shiva and Brahma when they have
visions? Do people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Just look at the cross-
cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
he assumed most everyone in the world
--- authfriend wrote:
Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
TM as soon as they heard about it, that governments
would leap at it, and so on.
It's extremely common for
--- Vaj wrote:
dying is easier than I thought :-)
Now there's an ability that may come in handy someday.
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wrote:
snip
Much more becomes available, simply by placing the attention on
it.
No doubt sidhis and such powers are more easily expressed in such
a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
he assumed most everyone in the world
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wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
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Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- authfriend wrote:
Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
TM as soon as they heard
On Mar 3, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: dying is easier than I thought :-) Now there's an ability that may come in handy someday. All the better reason to practice dying now :-).
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wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
Gillam wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
dying is easier than I thought :-)
Now there's an ability that may come in handy someday.
All the better reason to practice dying now :-).
I've pursued enlightenment in hopes it would make life
easier. Funny that its ultimate payoff
--- Vaj wrote:
In the 80's, I was invited by three close friends--an old TM teacher,
an MIU grad and a Sidha, to confront Robin Woodsworth Carlsen who was
then living in an apartment in Washington DC. It was actually my
first time at debunking a claim of enlightenment
So Vaj, you've
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
In the 80's, I was invited by three close friends--an old
TM teacher, an MIU grad and a Sidha, to confront Robin
Woodsworth Carlsen who was then living in an apartment
in Washington DC. It
judy writes: snipped
And if he didn't, was it because the state of
enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
*when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the
easy and simple sense applies on some level other
than the practical one of achieving a goal, but
that the person who is
On Mar 3, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: In the 80's, I was invited by three close friends--an old TM teacher, an MIU grad and a Sidha, to confront Robin Woodsworth Carlsen who was then living in an apartment in Washington DC. It was actually my first time at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So I guess that's another question: Did he or didn't
he know how tough it was going to be?
And if he didn't, was it because the state of
enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
*when it really isn't*?
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
acting the way any entrepreneur would, expecting
his products and services to be lapped up by a hungry
public. If MMY were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
acting the way any entrepreneur would,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@
wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
judy writes: snipped
And if he didn't, was it because the state of
enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
*when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the
easy and simple sense
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry, with all due respect I'm going to take great exception
to
this answer and to all answers that seem to reduce the
life/mindset/emotional state of the awake ones to these kinds of
pat
answers.
snip
That's
Personally, and in all seriousness, I still believe it is ALL
conjecture and overall, I'm sorry I spent so much of my life
believing in this stuff.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote:
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tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote:
judy writes: snipped
And if he didn't, was it because the state of
enlightenment makes everything
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote:
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tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote:
judy writes: snipped
And
--- In
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
judy writes: snipped
And if he didn't, was it because the state of
enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
*when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the
easy and simple sense
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
acting the way any entrepreneur would,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
jpgillam@
wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
--- sparaig wrote:
--- Gillam wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
acting the way any entrepreneur would, expecting
his products and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- sparaig wrote:
--- Gillam wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- sparaig wrote:
--- Gillam wrote:
--- tom traynor wrote:
What ever they attempt is easy and
simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief
Anonyff writes: snipped
Personally, I think there are as many forms of enlightenment as there
are people, I think that people still get angry, hungrly, lonely,
tired, irritable, sick, and that they act just as spontaneously as
anyone/everyone else and that all this constant intellectualizing is a
Tom (anonyff replied):
Sorry for the *tone* of my previous post, although I did mean it, in
that moment, exactly as I said it.
FYI I have been reading and contributing to FF LIfe for at least 2
years and probably more like 3+ (how long has it been around?). I just
changed my name and use the
on 3/3/06 10:37 PM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FYI I have been reading and contributing to FF LIfe for at least 2
years and probably more like 3+ (how long has it been around?).
Since Sept. 5, 2001 - 6 days before 9/11
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
so who regularly disses who for what claim of experience or non-
experience? My own take on people who claim to be in full-blown
brahman consciousness
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 11:14 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you like to see the scar on my ass?
I'd love to show that to you! :-)
Reminds me of Forrest Gump and LBJ.
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on 3/2/06 11:57 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip perhaps I felt it in bad
form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag about it
in
public or discuss the details of how the View was tested and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've heard-- seeing things
clearly. Plain and simple.
on 3/2/06 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it's like that. I don't think it's *ever*
been like that. Shankara farted and shat just like
everyone else does.
I read that he had an anal fistula that bled and caused him a great deal of
discomfort.
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wrote:
on 3/2/06 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it's like that. I don't think it's *ever*
been like that. Shankara farted and shat just like
everyone else does.
I read that he had an
On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:but I have a hard time believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts are not enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to having a nail driven through their foot or that they cast a shadow. I think he's raising the bar
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type of samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/2/06 11:57 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip perhaps I felt it in bad
form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
but I have a hard time
believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts
are
not
enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to having a
nail
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail
story of
Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a
certain type
of
on 3/2/06 3:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some
text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming
isn't relevant to witnessing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/2/06 3:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting
some
text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
takethem out of
On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming isn't relevant to witnessing. Actually the
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type of samadhi. The fact that he did experience pain
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 3:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick, wasn't it you who shared the story of M. and the meeting with another meditation teacher whose students could go into an insensate samadhi?
Yes, I told
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced that such an ability is an essential prerequisite for enlightenment. But that’s really just an opinion based on my current knowledge
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
No. Im sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that Im not convinced
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've heard-- seeing things
clearly. Plain and simple.
To bring up Suzanne Segal again,
On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced that such an ability is an essential
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I used to receive a hand-typed newsletter from someone on Purusha
and he also described a similar story with M. albeit that this
would take place over a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've
on 3/2/06 8:48 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I used to receive a hand-typed newsletter from someone on Purusha
and he also described a similar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Much more becomes available, simply by placing the attention on it.
No doubt sidhis and such powers are more easily expressed in such a
state, but oddly enough, living a non-dual reality, where we are no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
TM as soon as they heard about it, that governments
would
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
jpgillam@ wrote:
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TorquiseB writes: snipped
Those who say
that they have experienced the goal that is shared
by pretty much the entire group (for example,
enlightenment) are regularly dissed by those in
the group who have not had such an
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:05 PM, purushaz wrote:---Statement below (Enlightened person has an option to stop pain) is incorrect. Enlightenment does not imply particular (or any) Siddhis, which have to do with relative endeavors.. Why stop with control over pain? Why not say that Enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TorquiseB writes: snipped
Those who say
that they have experienced the goal that is shared
by pretty much the entire group (for example,
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Peter wrote:--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes: snipped Those who say that they have experienced the goal that is shared by pretty much the entire group (for example, enlightenment) are regularly dissed by those in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote:
TorquiseB writes: snipped
Those who say
that they have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I'm not talking just about the manifestation
of this phenomenon in the TM world, but about
what it seems to be like in *all* of the
groups
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
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--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Peter wrote:
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
TorquiseB writes: snipped
Those who say
that they have experienced the goal that is
shared
by pretty much the entire group (for
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
tendency to be deferential to those who
claimed or were rumored to be enlightened.
In certain quarters of Fairfield, especially MUM, people don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
tendency to be deferential to those who
claimed or were rumored
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
tendency to be deferential to those who
claimed or were rumored
on 3/1/06 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
tendency to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
tendency to be deferential to those who
claimed or were rumored
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:16 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:Personally I'm wary of anyone making E claims and prefer orgs that don't even use the word. IMO, energywise, "being enlightened" is just the new age-eastern version of "being saved by Jesus". I loved this! Yes, you've described the conversion
on 3/1/06 10:02 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Peter wrote:And sad. A collective cheer should go up forrealization, not a hiss. The kiss of Mara. I'm guessing this would be a bad time to bring upthe possibility that the mutual complicity inherent in satsangculture is actually Spiritual Codependence?Never mind
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness..
on 3/1/06 10:23 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Peter wrote:
And sad. A collective cheer should go up for
realization, not a hiss. The kiss of Mara.
I'm guessing this would
--- Rick Archer wrote:
jim_flanegin wrote:
Just curious Rick if you would elaborate on the Robin Carlson
legacy. Thanks
It's quite a story, and I don't have time to tell it at length, but about 25
years ago Canadian Governor Robin Carlson proclaimed that he was
enlightened, set
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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I don't know if this is true about the Travis studies, but it used to
be policy at MUM that any study reg. higher states could only be done
using subjects with valid dome badges -- the idea of someone without
a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
jim_flanegin wrote:
Just curious Rick if you would elaborate on the Robin Carlson
legacy. Thanks
It's quite a story, and I don't have time to tell it at length,
but about 25
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Rick Archer wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: Just curious Rick if you would elaborate on "the Robin Carlson legacy". Thanks It's quite a story, and I don't have time to tell it at length, but about 25 years ago Canadian Governor Robin Carlson
Very nice post. Satsang as a way of weaving ever more subtle self-delusions.
Not being much of a Satsanger, I wouldn't know for sure, but it sounds very
plausible.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My observation of having recently (over the last year)
I would hasten to point out that I have also experienced satsangs which were very positive and evolutionary in my mere opinion. The previous only refers to what I've experienced in a more "neoadvaita" kind of gathering.On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:50 AM, feste37 wrote:Very nice post. Satsang as a way
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Peter wrote:And sad. A collective cheer should go up for realization, not a hiss. The kiss of Mara. I'm guessing this would be a bad time to bring up the possibility that the mutual complicity inherent in satsang culture is actually Spiritual Codependence?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness..
on 3/1/06 10:57 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would hasten to point out that I have also experienced satsangs which were very positive and evolutionary in my mere opinion. The previous only refers to what I've
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
contrary. What I've observed has been a
tendency to be deferential to those who
claimed or were rumored
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