RE: Common code in CVS branches

2002-11-04 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 09:57, Victor Mote wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > > 1.0 as soon as possible. I'm grateful for Victor's work and I hope it > > won't be a distraction. Because distractions may leave the focus of > > potential co-developers on the maintenance branch even though the > > red

RE: handling patches

2002-11-04 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 21:31, Victor Mote wrote: > I agree that maintenance branches are not obliged to be merged eventually, > but you still have not shown any benefit to keeping them in the same tree if > they are not. > > Usual development pattern would also be that someone makes sure that new >

place for patches

2002-11-04 Thread Keiron Liddle
Where would be a good place to put some patches. I have current cvs working with cocoon+forrest and have a patch to work with the fop-block and a patch to make bookmarks in the pdf output. Really basic stuff but it might be useful to someone. ---

RE: Common code in CVS branches

2002-11-04 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 16:19, Victor Mote wrote: > I'll start in on it right away. If you have a specific task that a greenhorn > can chew on, please let me know. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll be able to find > something interesting. Hi Victor, The major areas of neglect would have to be: - font handli

Re: Common code in CVS branches

2002-11-04 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 17:38, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Keiron Liddle wrote: > > > The major areas of neglect would have to be: > > - font handling > > - api classes > > - awt viewer > > Please, reserve last one for me, I'm almost finishing with it. Sorry,

Re: Current status of re-design

2002-11-05 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 21:30, Patrick Dean Rusk wrote: > I've been following this list for a few weeks now, but I'm still unclear as > to the current status of the re-design efforts. The FOP Web site's "status" > page hasn't been updated since June, apparently, when the estimate of being > 35

Re: [RT] Proprietary extension to fo:external-graphic

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 09:55, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > While investigating the multi-threading issues in the maint-branch I > came across the following: > > Currently, in the context of the PDF renderer, every FopImage is closed > as soon as it's written to the target file. The next time the same >

Re: [RT] Proprietary extension to fo:external-graphic

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 12:01, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wednesday 06 November 2002 09:55, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > >. . . > > http://localhost/mydynamicimage)" > > xmlns:fop="http://xml.apache.org/fop"; fop:disable-caching="true"/> > >. . . > > There are some fox: extensions already IIRC (nev

font issues (was RE: Common code in CVS branches)

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 08:09, Victor Mote wrote: > I just went looking in the archives for this discussion & thought I saw > pieces of it, but could not find what I was looking for -- namely, what > theories you guys had proposed / agreed upon. This is related to the font > work that I have started,

Re: forrest is coming?

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 11:56, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Hello there! > > I see forrest at the web site and it looks terrific! Well done, my > congratulations. > Sorry for predating any official announce :) Lots more to do but I think it is a good start. Need to brighten up or change the logo. May

Re: awt viewer revisited

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 13:12, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Hello there! > > I have posted my awt viewer patch to the bugzilla patch queue. Please review. > I tested the patch (english and russian languages only though) and it looks ok > to me. Great! I'll take a look at see it in action. > PS.A bit

Re: awt viewer revisited

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 14:45, Keiron Liddle wrote: > On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 13:12, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > > Hello there! > > > > I have posted my awt viewer patch to the bugzilla patch queue. Please review. > > I tested the patch (english and russian languages only thou

Re: interface instead of implementation

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 16:18, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Fellow FOP developers, > > would you mind using the interface instead of the implementation where > possible? Map instead of HashMap, List instead of ArrayList. I've seen > this habit in a number of places and not only by Keiron! I've made it a

Re: FOP developer's style guide? (Was: interface instead ofimplementation)

2002-11-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 16:48, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > How about using a wiki page (web page where everyone can very easily write > and edit) to work together on a draft style guide. including links to > existing guides so we don't reinvent the wheel? > > If I get some +1s on this I'll setup

[VOTE] Oleg for committer

2002-11-07 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Developers, I suggest we have a vote for Oleg to be a committer. If Oleg accepts then he can get on with making FOP great! Here's my vote: +1 Keiron. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, emai

Re: References (WAS:RE: HashMaps)

2002-11-07 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 14:58, Rhett Aultman wrote: > I wasn't suggesting using them because they're sexy. Personally, I don't use >Reference objects unless they can't be avoided. However, collections that use >WeakReferences can be a serious help. Essentially, they can help ensure object >clea

Re: Forrest questions

2002-11-07 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 10:04, Victor Mote wrote: > Joerg, Keiron, et al: > > I want to add my congratulations for the good work on the new web site. It > not only looks good, but loads noticeably faster on my connection. I also > see (and like) the "dev" tab. > > As I understand it, the web site w

Re: [VOTE] Oleg for committer

2002-11-08 Thread Keiron Liddle
Congratulations Oleg! I believe we have the votes. So I'll send a message to see if we can get things moving. Any preferences for user name? Keiron. On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 21:54, J.Pietschmann wrote: > Keiron Liddle wrote: > > I suggest we have a vote for Oleg to be a comm

Re: Pb building FOP on with JimiImage

2002-11-08 Thread Keiron Liddle
As pointed out on this page: http://xml.apache.org/fop/relnotes.html you need to download jimi yourself and build with that in the lib/ dir. On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 12:35, Olivier IMBERT wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I am newbie on building FOP and I got some problem to build FOP 0.20.4 > I get

Re: linefeed-treatment

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Rainer, On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:08, Rainer Garus wrote: > With an actual 1.0dev fop the following part of a fo-file > > > Hello > > > is rendered to a line which starts with a space character. Is this correct? And is >the implementation in fop 0.20.4 false, which don't considered the star

RE: A performance patch for PDFInfo class

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 23:44, Kevin O'Neill wrote: > Like anybody else there are times when I optimize as I go, but I really > try and keep in mind, "is this the simplest thing I could do?" Fighting > the urge to apply "optimizations" as you go is hard sometimes but in my > experience leads to a bet

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/image JpegImage.java

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 19:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Log: > Fixed problem with jpegs with icc profile and acrobat reader 5 (Bug #11301) > Submitted by: Stephan Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I tried this change with the trunk code and I get an exception "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: I

RE: How force FOP to render embeded SVG object in PCL?

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 17:37, Vladimir Korovkin wrote: > Thank You, > > I think to do either so or to patch fop (i have PCL language manual). > > It is interestingly that PCLSVGRenderer was in Fop-0.18.1. It tried > to render embeded svg objects into pcl but it has been removed from next > versi

Re: Avalonization?

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 11:28, Kevin O'Neill wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 18:40, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > Cool. I'm going to ping you as soon as I'm ready to go for it again. Too > > little time this week to give you any directions. If you find anything, > > go for it. IMO the PDF library would a

Form XObject (was: Re: Avalonization?)

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 12:00, Kevin O'Neill wrote: > > I just added a Form XObject but it needs some work (eg. bounds). > > How do you intend to pass xobject hits from the fo processor. I had > thought about a fop specific attribute that was a hint on block level > objects. I'm not sure what situa

Re: A performance patch for PDFInfo class

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 16:25, Henrik Olsson wrote: > >StringBuffer xxx.append("foo").append("bar"); > > > >understanding what the compiler does is the secret to optimizing > >Strings. > > Hi Kevin. > Its not an issue of what code is fastest here, its about creation and > destuction of objects. Su

Re: Form XObject (was: Re: Avalonization?)

2002-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 20:44, Kevin O'Neill wrote: > I'm talking about specific user driven contexts. For instance as the > designer I may know that I repeat the use of a image in several > locations throughout the document, say it's a graphic I use at the start > of a paragraph. It would be nice to

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/image JpegImage.java

2002-11-13 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 09:26, Keiron Liddle wrote: > On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 19:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Log: > > Fixed problem with jpegs with icc profile and acrobat reader 5 (Bug #11301) > > Submitted by: Stephan Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I

Re: [PATCH] XSL-FO Compliance Document

2002-11-13 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 15:56, Victor Mote wrote: > Questions: > 1. Are these things that need to be done in FOP or that need to be done in > Forrest? Forrest. The dtd validation is important since it makes it a lot easier to know if the xml docs are correct. I figured out the dtd, always helps to r

Re: Announcement: XSL-FO Reporting Tool

2002-11-13 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 17:55, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Colin Savage wrote: > > > Rubico Report Styler > > > > A WYSIWYG reporting tool that generates XSLT to produce XSL-FO > > > > Evaluation Download > > > > http://www.rubico.com/products/reporting.htm > > ... > > Use with Apache FOP, JFOR, and com

Re: forrest DTDs

2002-11-14 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Victor, I wouldn't recommend putting the dtd's in our cvs, one version is better. The are some pages describing the dtd but I presume you mean for editing. I think it would be useful to make them downloadable separately just for editing. You still need forrest to do the verifying and generation

RE: [PATCH] XSL-FO Compliance Document

2002-11-14 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 17:39, Victor Mote wrote: > The purpose of the 13325 patch was to get the pdf generation working again. > Christian tried to apply it, but said that he got errors. I reviewed it, > couldn't see anything obviously wrong with it. However, I am not sure what > the nature of the e

Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-15 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Developers, The current way that breaks are found with the layout managers has a couple of problems. Currently the information is contained in both the layout managers and the break positions. This means that it must follow the order: get breaks: add areas: get breaks etc. So columns are not

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-15 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 09:42, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Friday 15 November 2002 09:30, Keiron Liddle wrote: > >. . .(does anyone even know what I am talking > > about) > > Not much on my side as the whole layout thing is still a mystery to me > (because I have no

RE: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-18 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 19:48, Victor Mote wrote: > Just to be clear, I should point out that there is not a layout that is > impossible to perform. The standard allows (and would have to) > implementation-specific handling of what they call "over-constrained" > requirements. In other words, requirem

RE: Frustration With FOP

2002-11-18 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 18:55, Victor Mote wrote: > Fair enough. I submitted and Keiron committed to the CVS repository this > past week a document that attempts to do a better job of this. It combines > the "implemented" and "limitations" pages with a complete list of the > objects and properties in

Re: [PATCH] changes to bugs.xml doc

2002-11-19 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 19:47, Victor Mote wrote: > I did not realize until I looked right now that I failed to use the -u > option on my diff. Sorry about that. > > Yes, we should change all of the declarations to be consistent. I'll go > ahead & do that en masse instead of piecemeal. Thanks, all

Re: Sun xsl formatter being donated to open source

2002-11-19 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 09:18, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Hello there! > > Nikolai Grigoriev discovered new xsl formatter becoming open source ;) > http://www.xmlconference.org/xmlusa/2002/thursday.asp#vp5 > > Comments? Does anybody plan to participate xml 2002? Some people even > suggest it's Apache

RE: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-19 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 09:21, Rhett Aultman wrote: > > It seems to me that there are (at least) two approaches: 1. A leaf on the > > tree says "I am here, put me somewhere on a page", or 2. A higher-level node > > (page-sequence) says "I have some space here, send me something to fill it." > > 3. 1

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-19 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:07, Peter B. West wrote: > > If possible I think we should try to avoid making multiple passes since > > it can lead to loops etc. The table layout auto will need at least two > > passes but this should be possible using the layout managers. > > > Is that a "should be" or

RE: [PATCH] changes to bugs.xml doc

2002-11-19 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:59, Victor Mote wrote: > Keiron Liddle wrote: > > > Still having some trouble with diffs, it might be something to do with > > downloading via IE. > > Thanks for pointing this out -- I didn't realize there was a problem. I do > use IE t

Re: rendering SVG Graphic exported from staroffice 6

2002-11-19 Thread Keiron Liddle
The problem is with the viewBox, this is not implemented properly in the releases. It has been implemented in cvs however. Why don't you use a circle to draw a circle? On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I tried to include some svg graphics with > > > If I use

Re: Bug 14290 strokeSVGText=false causes space characters to berendered incorrectly

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Karen, Welcome back. Well if it works it looks good to me but I'm no font expert. Could that also be applied to trunk? Be careful the style police might get onto you. Keiron. On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 23:38, Karen Lease wrote: > Hi all (and especially Jeremias or other font experts), > > This

Re: Sample FO Documents

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Eliot, I presume there is a large number of large and complicated samples that would be a bit too much. They could be placed in bugzilla if not appropriate for cvs. We could then grab them and use when suitable. The idea of course is to work through and fix the limitations in FOP. Keiron. O

RE: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 16:57, Rhett Aultman wrote: > > I'm not sure how writing the thing to make two passes is more loop prone than making >one pass, especially if each pass performs a different function. For example, what >if the first pass was designed only to gather information about the pro

[VOTE] Victor as committer

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Developers, I propose we have a vote for Victor to become a committer. Plenty of eagerness shown already and I am sure he will do lots more for the project. Here's my vote: +1 Keiron. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

Re: XML area tree question

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 11:03, Matthias Brunner wrote: > Hello, > > in this thread > (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-user&m=103227363003594&w=2) I > asked whether you could use FOP extensions to get the pagination > back into the source XML document. > > Back then I had also thought about p

Re: XML area tree question

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 11:33, Matthias Brunner wrote: > On Wednesday 20 November 2002 11:26, Keiron Liddle wrote: > > > > The XML representation has already changed in cvs. It is a major > > change due to a major change with the area tree. > > The xml is a sort of a repr

RE: [VOTE] Victor as committer

2002-11-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Art and Rhett, Anyone is allowed to vote on an issue and I would encourage people to express their opinion. In general only (active) committers votes are binding but we can consider other votes. On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok, I guess that answers my question. Sorr

RE: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-21 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Rhett, On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 16:44, Rhett Aultman wrote: > I may be green, but I did spot some of this a couple weeks ago, and it went mostly >unnoticed. While writing this email, I downloaded another CVS snapshot and the >super-simple test document from bug #8778, which is probably the sim

RE: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-21 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 12:43, Victor Mote wrote: > To conclude, if I were designing this system from scratch, based on what I > know right now, I would: > 1. Use DOM for both the fo tree & the area tree. I don't know whether I would call it a DOM but the area tree is an independant data structure t

RE: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-21 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 14:20, Rhett Aultman wrote: > IIRC, in my "8778 experiment", the break being offered was never null. The best >break is always being offered, but the best break is at the beginning of the >offending block. Either way, this resolves only the most trivial of the examples >w

RE: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-21 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 16:03, Rhett Aultman wrote: > When you say "in the design," do you mean that this is expected behavior as it is >now or as it should be at some point in the future? That's the point of the original message, currently it doesn't do it quite right. I am looking to adjust it to

RE: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-21 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 21:14, Victor Mote wrote: > OK, I just went back & reread it. There is still something I don't > understand & I'll get to that in a minute. First, let me say that perhaps > the better way for me to learn this would be to follow it in a debugger. I'm > not too lazy to do that,

RE: [VOTE] Victor as committer

2002-11-22 Thread Keiron Liddle
Congratulations Victor! We have enough votes (only Joerg who is away, was missing). So welcome as a committer. Do you have any preference for a user name? Regards, Keiron. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addi

Re: Forrest updates

2002-11-26 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 23:52, Victor Mote wrote: > Keiron Liddle wrote (on about 11-19, in a different thread): > > > Currently the document updating process is manual (but a lot easier than > > before). > > Now that current cvs fop can handle the documents a lot better

Re: FOP Servlet, contrib stuff and tutorial

2002-11-27 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 13:53, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > (Warning: this mail starts slowly and is getting mean at the end...) > > Oleg and I wonder what we should do with the fact that the FOP servlet > exists in docs/examples/embedding and contrib/servlet. Joerg seems to > have some ideas about thi

Re: User Agent

2002-11-27 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 20:40, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Hello! > > What is the convention behind UserAgent class? afaiu, the class should > provide default values for all user-agent-related properties, which are > overridable through the configuration file. There could be two ways to set these val

Re: User Agent

2002-11-27 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 19:19, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > > There could be two ways to set these values. From the command line we > > want the config file to set values and when embedding they could extend > > the user agent to set the values. > And what about the third one - set config file when embedd

Re: Forresbot WANTED

2002-11-29 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 09:27, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > So newer versions will work. The patch cannot be applied to cocoon cvs > > as fop releases are coming from a branch. > > > > So how can we proceed. I would like it to be using fop cvs but this is > > not really feasible at the moment. > >

Re: Forresbot WANTED

2002-11-29 Thread Keiron Liddle
oops, wrong mailing list. On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 09:37, Keiron Liddle wrote: > On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 09:27, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > > So newer versions will work. The patch cannot be applied to cocoon cvs > > > as fop releases are coming from a branch. > > >

Re: cvs commit: fonts...

2002-11-29 Thread Keiron Liddle
Should we put the fix for the ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException into the branch. Namely line 224 in TTFFile (HEAD): // the last character 65535 = .notdef // may have a range offset if (cmapRangeOffsets[i] != 0 && j != 65535) { ---

Re: docs for maintenance release

2002-11-29 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 17:33, Christian Geisert wrote: > Hi, > > for the documentation for the maintenance release I think the > best thing is to copy src/documentation over from trunk and then > add a simple to build.xml > Comments? > > The track.png in status.html needs a update. How is it done

Re: FOP Servlet, contrib stuff and tutorial

2002-12-02 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 20:58, J.Pietschmann wrote: > > - move contrib/servlet to examples/servlet > > - move contrib/plan to examples/plan > > - move contrib/mathml to examples/mathml > Unless license restrictions get in the way, I'd rather move them > to src/java/org/apache/fop/* One of the purpos

Re: Using Apache FOP to create multiple-page PDFs usingPDFDocumentGraphics2D

2002-12-02 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 03:40, jcplerm wrote: > Is it possible, by any means, to use PDFDocumentGraphics2D > (or any other FOP class) to generate a PDF document with multiple > pages, so that each page contains a slice of a larger graph created > using Graphics2D methods? Hi Julio, Not directly.

Re: cvs commit:xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/design/alt.designclasses-overview.xml

2002-12-02 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 15:49, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Keiron, > > is that really necessary? If proper UTF-8 encoding would be used (as > declared implicitly), these cryptic character references would not be > necessary, right? I kept getting errors with validation and conversion with cocoon. The

Re: cvscommit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/design/alt.designclasses-overview.xml

2002-12-03 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 22:19, Peter B. West wrote: > Keiron, > > I will be updating this documentation in the next few days, and I will > fix the encoding at the same time, unless there is a more urgent need. Could you leave the character as it is for the moment, just in case there is still some

Re: website

2002-12-03 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 21:37, Victor Mote wrote: > I see that Keiron has republished the web site. Here are some comments: > > 1. Keiron, would it help any, now that you have gotten the basic flow going, > for one of us to take the web-site publication burden from you? I know > Christian is involve

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop forrest.properties

2002-12-03 Thread Keiron Liddle
That is supposed to say: all docs now validate Something went wrong... On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 11:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > keiron 2002/12/03 02:53:48 > > Modified:.forrest.properties > Log: > aذAæ͘9 ܼ¹ÂNÀ4dÂÐ)£ > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.4 +5 -

Re: FOP Servlet, contrib stuff and tutorial

2002-12-03 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 22:04, J.Pietschmann wrote: > Keiron Liddle wrote: > >>>- move contrib/servlet to examples/servlet > >>>- move contrib/plan to examples/plan > >>>- move contrib/mathml to examples/mathml > > One of the purposes that these serve is

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-12-04 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 21:56, J.Pietschmann wrote: > Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > > btw, how does such a case addressed by the spec? Apparently FOP, antenna > > and xep do squeeze content. Isn't it an example of overconstrained > > geometry (5.3.4)? > > It can be interpreted as such in the presented c

Re: bugzilla shake-up is over

2002-12-05 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 19:08, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Hello there! > > Well, bugzilla shake-up is over, sorry if I closed something not-to-be-closed > or leave something-to-be-closed, but anyway I believe we can say bugzilla is > cleaned up now. > Now it's 111 entries in there (it was 188 IIRC):

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-05 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:01, Peter B. West wrote: > There is an implication in what you are saying that you do have the > direction forward for the FO processor "internalised", so to speak, > and > that a complete FO processor is, as Christian says, just a matter of > time. I, and I suspect Arv

Re: bug #13586

2002-12-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 18:05, Christian Geisert wrote: > Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > > Hello there! > > > > What do you think about > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13586? > > > > Stefan asks us to use something like > > float currentLetterSpacing = (float) 9.99; > > > > inst

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 03:47, Peter B. West wrote: > Rhett, > > Nerver having used it, I am not aware of its capabilities. As I don't > develop in a Microsoft environment, and have no access to MS Visual C++, > and I don't run in a Solaris environment, my options for trying this are > limited.

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-06 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 15:28, Rhett Aultman wrote: > This is something I'd really like to see hashed out better. We're winding down on >the maintenance brach. I've read a majority of the source in HEAD other than the >renderers (which I don't feel qualified or interested in, anyway), and I under

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 01:00, Arved Sandstrom wrote: > I actually helped push for this last year - the notion of separate layout > managers. I was strongly influenced by the mess that FOP code had become at > the time, and really thought that layout should be taken out of the FOs > themselves; that

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Joerg, These are the issues that you have mentioned before. It is still essentially only attacking two methods (and supporting classes). If you have a better design, then do it. On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 00:16, J.Pietschmann wrote: > deep inheritance hierarchies. There is only so much someone can

Re: todo

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Oleg, I think writing direction would be a good addition. I am hoping to bring back all the renderers and this is one issue that need to be considered. ie. how it is handled in the area tree and how renderers deal with it, sorting out width/height vs. ipd/bpd On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:30, Oleg

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 15:43, Rhett Aultman wrote: > We have a Wiki that seems to have been a good way of quickly throwing up ideas for >style guidelines and voting on them. Why don't we do the same thing here? We could >throw up our ideas, try to sort them into "lofty, long term" stuff and "imm

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-10 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Arved, On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 20:30, Arved Sandstrom wrote: > The feeling I got from my prototype is that there is not much commonality. > > Markers - there is no logic here that has anything to do with layout, per > se. The content goes into a static-content and hence does not influence page >

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-10 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Peter, On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 03:30, Peter B. West wrote: > Fop-devs, > > I have just run some quick test of property generation, to determine > whether I was actually generating the property sets for the FOs. > Although there are obviously still some bugs in property generation, the > full

Layout Issues

2002-12-10 Thread Keiron Liddle
Lets try to sort out the layout issues and come up with some ideas. First of all assume that there is nothing there. We have an FO Tree and an Area Tree and nothing in between. Now how do we get the layout to work. Some requirements: - separation between deciding layout and adding areas - abilit

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-10 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 11:56, Jeff Turner wrote: > See http://forrestbot.cocoondev.org/site/xml-fop > > Updated every hour with the latest Forrest and FOP source. You mean: and FOP that comes with Forrest. - To unsubscribe, e-m

Markers (was: RE: Redesign issues)

2002-12-10 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 17:26, Arved Sandstrom wrote: > Incidentally, I still think that the way markers are described in the spec > is vague and confusing. Perhaps we should hammer this out. Agreed. I still have figured out what it really means. -

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-10 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 05:45, Victor Mote wrote: > I have been running this on the Apache machine. Is that OK? If successful, > we can theoretically just add a cron job to publish periodically if we wish, > until Forrest is ready to do its magic for us. > > When running forrest, I am getting the No

Re: Changes in xdocs directories

2002-12-11 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 03:11, Peter B. West wrote: > I found the image files in > .../src/documentation/resources/images/design/alt.design. > > I'm not seeing any fop-cvs mail about these commits. Any idea why? Don't know why you didn't get it but it was on the list: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com

RE: src/documentation/README

2002-12-11 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 19:17, Victor Mote wrote: > OK, I see now that I misunderstood your "Sorry, yes" answer to Keiron. If > http://forrestbot.cocoondev.org/site/xml-fop should be reflecting changes no > more than an hour old made to xml-fop/src/documentation, then it is not > working. I just look

Re: Croatian characters in fop created pdf

2002-12-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi, I'll try to clarify the FAQ entry. The short answer is that you need to configure it to embed the required font and/or use the correct encoding for the characters in the XML. The default pdf fonts only have a certain set of characters. I don't know anything about croatian characters so I mi

Re: Croatian characters in fop created pdf

2002-12-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
> The default pdf fonts only have a certain set of characters. I just found on this page: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/technotes/fonts.html the CMAPS of the core fonts (down the bottom). Does anyone know if they correspond (with data) to our xml font files. Also is there anywhere tha

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 11:37, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Keiron, can you place the link somewhere in the dev docs for memory, please? Sure. Done. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL P

Re: Fop and batik

2002-12-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 15:30, Sharma, Siddharth wrote: > Hi and sorry for cross-posting as I know this is a user question. > I am newbie with FOP on Websphere 4.0.3. Batik has some DOM classes, which > are present in Xerces as well, with different implementations. > This leads to a number of problem

Re: Ant-based local doc valiation

2002-12-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:16, Jeff Turner wrote: > Yes. There is nothing wrong with FOP grabbing the latest DTDs from > Forrest and including them locally. That is effectively what users of > Forrest binary distributions do; they're using an old snapshot of the > DTDs. The problems at the moment

Re: Croatian characters in fop created pdf

2002-12-13 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 08:35, Adis Katkic wrote: > Hi, > croatian characters are of type ISO-8859-2 (latin 2) > The unusual characters are: . Whatever the characters are, all I can see is a "." I don't know if I said it before, but Fop doesn't use the fonts from you platform, apart from the de

RE: Sun XSL Formatter

2002-12-16 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:01, Victor Mote wrote: > Peter S. Housel wrote: > > > Looks like they want to donate it to Gnome, not Apache. > > AFAIR, the BSD license is pretty incompatible with the Apache license. One > of the reasons that the xmlroff announcement doesn't change my commitment to > FO

Re: FOP and AreaTree serialization

2002-12-16 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 14:32, Salonen, Aki wrote: > Hi! > > I've been using FOP for Inventory reporting in PDF format. > It works great with documents less that 200 pages when > we have enough memory in server. > > We need to produce reports with pages up to 1000 pages > and within one pagesequenc

RE: FOP and AreaTree serialization

2002-12-16 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 15:52, Salonen, Aki wrote: > I am not using any forward references. > > I've debugged memory allocation and > noticed that FOP allocates about 700Kb of memory > for each page processed. This remains allocated to the > end of pagesequence. > > If I've understood right, it's

Re: AreaTree.AreaTreeModel

2002-12-18 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 00:56, Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Hello! > > Just curious, why AreaTreeModel is defined as static inner class of > AreaTree class? It doesn't look like real inner class as it's abstract > and has 3 implementations. Are there any objections against moving it out? Mainly it is

PDF transforms (was: Re: File prefix again)

2002-12-18 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 15:23, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > I don't get this. How can PDFs be transformed? > > There are Java libraries that read PDFs. What would be really cool is to > have a reader or something like it that uses a PDF as a template. > Using FOP for just filling out forms is ove

Re: PDF transforms (was: Re: File prefix again)

2002-12-20 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 21:15, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > All cool, but how exactly is that better than having a PDF template that > is stitched behind or in front of the FOP result using iText or PJ? > Works well. Ok, PDF reading with our own library is a bonus as is better > XML output for debugging.

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