Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

2018-10-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:16 AM Jan van Wijk wrote: > > Yes, unfortunatily I have no network connectivity in my FreeDOS VM, > but I handle that by mounting a virtual-disk shared with other VM's. > But normally I only need it to test my bootable-CD, so I just boot > the ISO in a VM ... Getting

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:22 AM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:13 AM, Random Liegh wrote: >> On 9/29/2018 3:09 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Yes, we removed the Arrowsoft Assembler [2.00c] because it appeared to be a > copy of Microsoft's MASM. "Appea

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:14 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > On 9/29/2018 3:09 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:47 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user > > wrote: > >> I'm not sure this has any value for FreeDOS beyond experimenting (can

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:02 PM dmccunney wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: > > > > "No loss" might be inaccurate. While it may be trivial compared to > > "newer technology", it's impossible to say that their (MSDN?) r

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 5:39 PM dmccunney wrote: > > Those were the days when MS was the outfit who got a start writing a > version of BASIC for microcomputers, and got asked by IBM to craft > an OS for the then new IBM PC. Outsourcing software development was also a way for IBM to avoid inf

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:17 AM dmccunney wrote: > > It's no loss to MS to make DOS 1.5 and 2.0 available under a permissive > license. "No loss" might be inaccurate. While it may be trivial compared to "newer technology", it's impossible to say that their (MSDN?) revenue from such legacy

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

2018-09-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:47 AM Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > > I'm not sure this has any value for FreeDOS beyond experimenting (can > this be built by the VAL linker? seems doubtful) and possibly getting > some ideas Not sure why you think VAL is the main target or only 16-bit lin

Re: [Freedos-user] How can i setup an old version FreeDos to my system

2018-09-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:37 AM Ahmet Fırat Doğru wrote: > > I bought a laptop with Freedos 1.1.26a build (2026a) and i formatted it to > Windows 10. Now i want to get it back to Freedos with same version before. I would recommend a much newer kernel (unless you have some huge incompatibili

Re: [Freedos-user] USB printer support and drivers

2018-09-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:31 PM Tom Schultz wrote: > > I have version 1.2-pre22 installed and help mentioned future support for > local printers prn and lpt1. I think that was more wishful dreaming, being idealistic, than any actual plans by anyone. * http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php

Re: [Freedos-user] Network don't work ... problem ...

2018-08-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 10:37 PM Everaldo Bernardo Cunha wrote: > > Tramandaí - RS - Brasil, 20/08/2018. > > I'm trying configure the network on FreeDOS 1.2, but it's a problem I don't > get to resolve! > I have a PC All-In-One and the FreeDOS is installed in a pendrive. The system > work,

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS networking with embedded Realtek PCIe - 8168

2018-08-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 3:28 PM dmccunney wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Karen Lewellen > wrote: > > really? > > If sshdos no longer connects, then how am I sending this e-mail? > > Karen, the point to SSH is an *encrypted* connection to the other end. > Flaws have been identif

Re: [Freedos-user] rcal v1.0

2018-08-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 9:14 PM Bret Johnson wrote: > There are several free DOS calculators listed here, including some that > are TSR's: > > http://reimagery.com/fsfd/calc.htm > > Many will do far more than the four basic functions (like trigonometric > functions) and some include source cod

Re: [Freedos-user] rcal v1.0

2018-08-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 1:02 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > Is there an ibiblio mirror for this? > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/rcal/ -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of t

Re: [Freedos-user] Memmaker(sidenote)

2018-08-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 1:29 PM jamie marchant wrote: > Oh I played with HXRT and most of the command line programs I tried it > with did not work. Most of them need Vistual Studio run time or some > other Windows library. > Indeed not all things will work, but It's still far better than nothi

Re: [Freedos-user] Memmaker

2018-08-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 8:46 PM jamie marchant wrote: > > LASTDRIVE=Z > BUFFERS=20 > You can save a drop more with LASTDRIVE=G and BUFFERS=4 (since already using software cache elsewhere). > -- Check out the vibrant t

Re: [Freedos-user] Freeware hard-disk (and floppy) image editor(s)?

2018-07-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Leroy Vargas wrote: > I currently use VirtualBox to run a FreeDOS virtual machine, which uses VHD > hard-disk image files and VFD floppy-disk images. Atop which host OS? Windows or Linux or Mac or ... ? > Does anybody here know a freeware virtual disk image

Re: [Freedos-user] MODE Command Removing Loaded Previously CPX File

2018-07-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > Is MODE command remove loaded previously CPX file and > free allocated memory? I don't think it frees any memory. I think DISPLAY permanently loads enough for four (4) codepages, aka 64 kb. I don't know all the details, though. But ye

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

2018-07-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Bruce Sommerset wrote: > Hello everyone. I'm a new user to FreeDOS. Welcome. We are a very small but loyal group. :-) > I have some questions that perhaps more experienced users might be able to > help me with. I am trying to get two computers to communicate

Re: [Freedos-user] dos ssh client ideas?

2018-07-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:22 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > I am not looking for a newsgroup, which I guess? the News/ link is about. > you provided a google group link before, > I use google groups all the time, but your link produced an error. > What is the name of the google group, not the link,

Re: [Freedos-user] dos ssh client ideas?

2018-07-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 12:11 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > There seems to be an error in your google groups forum link. What is the > actual name of the group so I can find it directly? > news://comp.os.msdos.djgpp > ---

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

2018-07-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:57 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > I went around this elsewhere with a guy who is doing a replacement for > the Busybox package with the first target being Android. (Android > developers are using what he is doing internally.) I assume you mean Rob Landley and Toybox. (But

Re: [Freedos-user] dos ssh client ideas?

2018-07-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hope to ask this over at dos aint dead as well. "DAD" is still (temporarily?) dead since two months or so. I hope everything is well over there, but it's not viable at the moment. > As many here know, I use an ms dos 7.1 package only

Re: [Freedos-user] ssh2021b.

2018-07-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I am wondering if anyone else here uses this dos package for any of their > internet work? > by contrast how or if I can still reach the package developer? > I have a unique issue that I must explore with someone very used to this >

Re: [Freedos-user] [Announce]E100PKT 0.2 (stable)

2018-06-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 8:44 PM Seth Simon wrote: > I've released version 0.2, which I consider stable, of E100PKT. > I recall that this was already mirrored to iBiblio under /net/, so I just now uploaded the newer version there, too. > ---

Re: [Freedos-user] Status of BTTR Forum?

2018-06-12 Thread Rugxulo
I assume Laaca also emailed you privately? But I also noticed yet have no idea why. Don't worry, it will probably resolve itself eventually (blind hope). On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 3:27 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi people, the whole bttr-software.de website no > longer shows me any content, just a logi

Re: [Freedos-user] Running FreeDOS/V on a FreeDOS installation

2018-06-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, I'm afraid most of us here can't help with the Japanese stuff since we don't understand the language. But On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Leroy Vargas wrote: > I set up a VirtualBox virtual machine and installed the latest version of > FreeDOS there, complete with mouse and CD support.

Re: [Freedos-user] Network on the FreeDOS 1.2 ...

2018-06-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Everaldo Bernardo Cunha wrote: > > How do I configure the connection to the Internet on the FreeDOS 1.2 via > DHCP after the installation of the system? I'll await your answer. You need a working packet driver for your network card. That's easy if you're only

Re: [Freedos-user] fdnpackage update on new install on virtualbox.

2018-05-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:24 AM, Tom via Freedos-user wrote: > > Hello, new to freeodos Welcome. > On a fresh install I tried "fdnpackage update" and a couple of packages > wouldnt update as files already exiting.- see attached png Our resident package experts are always busy, so a proper

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2018-04-23 Thread Rugxulo
Tom, why do you always misunderstand? You really think I didn't know this already? On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: >> DOSEMU2 (Linux-hosted) is still being worked upon, and there have been DOSEMU runs on Linux natively but still needs 16-bit DOS (kernel, shell, utils) files to

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

2018-04-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi! On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 2:51 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > If you love QPro, fine. If you can still use a DOS system and DOS > applications to do what you need to do, more power to you. But if you > can, you are one of a *very* small number of people. The rest of us > cannot. And if you think

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

2018-04-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> Eric Auer also wrote a simple terminal program years ago, but I'm >> afraid I never tried it (and probably wouldn't know how!): >> >> * https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/net/terminal/ >> * https://www.auersoft.eu/so

Re: [Freedos-user] Counting down to 1 million downloads

2018-04-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > I track how many times people download the FreeDOS 1.2 distribution, and I > thought I'd share that we are about to reach 1 million downloads since > FreeDOS 1.2 was released. We'll hit 1 million tomorrow. Congrats, Jim (et al). > I'd nor

Re: [Freedos-user] usb stick for bios upgrade

2018-04-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi yet again, This kind of thing is a bit overwhelming to think about. I just don't have enough experience to understand or remember every detail. But I did vaguely remember two old freedos-user messages by Christian Imhorst that may help even further: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Ru

Re: [Freedos-user] usb stick for bios upgrade

2018-04-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:44 PM, Kevin McCormick wrote: > > Upgrade bios for MSI 7677 H61i-e35 (B3) mini-itx motherboard > > Here are the steps as best I can recall: > ... > > In conclusion, a working DOS usb boot stick seems to be the key, and it was > recommended to use the Windows 9

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

2018-04-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 6:02 AM, David McMackins wrote: > > I will look into Net-Tamer and Procom. Telix was the software I had > found the defunct website for. I'm not sure if I want to trust a mirror. Try looking here: * http://www.bttr-software.de/freesoft/comm1.htm Eric Auer also wrote

Re: [Freedos-user] usb stick for bios upgrade

2018-04-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Kevin McCormick wrote: > >> I have created several bootable usb sticks with syslinux and FreeDOS, but >> they enter the FreeDOS Setup menu when they are booted. Usually you pre

Re: [Freedos-user] usb stick for bios upgrade

2018-04-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, N.B. Keep in mind that traditional BIOS (CSM) is going away entirely in favor of UEFI. So, in future, you'll never have this problem again! On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Kevin McCormick wrote: > > I omitted to say that my operating system is Linux, Slackware 14.2. The > Windows solutions

Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

2018-03-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I have a former IBM engineer who builds and maintains all of my computers as > I run Dos exclusively. Yes, I knew you ran MS-DOS, you've mentioned it before. :-) I'm glad somebody is willing to help. Things like this are a bit t

Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

2018-03-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > May I ask what djgpp is exactly? > I was about to ask on the Lynx developers list about an updated DOS > package. > will this if properly configured run under dos? > Sorry if my question is well naive, DJGPP is a 32-bit DOS extender

Re: [Freedos-user] [Lynx-dev] ANN: lynx2.8.9dev.17

2018-03-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Just FYI DJGPP currently has "Lynx 2.8.9dev.16" (since last July) under /current/v2tk/ (lx28916b.zip). (Sorry if this link doesn't work without Javascript, it's just the announcement of the above from news://comp.os.msdos.djgpp .) "ANNOUNCE: DJGPP port of Lynx 2.8.9dev.16 uploaded." (7

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

2018-03-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:55 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >> On 3/21/2018 11:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > >>> Dos may have alot of limits but you can still get alot done with it. >>> HP could use FREEDOS development to break in their new >>> eng

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

2018-03-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:57 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> >> HP's resources are so great that it would just be a tiny project for them. > > HP does things for *money*. There is no money in developing drivers > for DOS, and the developers w

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

2018-03-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 3/20/2018 2:38 AM, Jim Hall wrote: >> >> Yes, HP is one of the computer manufacturers that includes FreeDOS in >> their standard builds. If you go into their laptops and desktops, and search >> for FreeDOS, you'll get a list of devices

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 09:20:39PM -0500, Patrick wrote: > >> I am thinking about giving FeeBSD a try in the next few months. I am running >> away from systemd. Wait, whoa? BSD isn't "free" anymore?!? Time to create FeeDOS!!!j/k ;-) I

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 8:46 PM, Patrick wrote: > > I like Pascal. I had a look at it again about a month ago. After Ada, pascal > is pretty easy and since I want to move away from tasking/threading anyhow, > Pascal is pretty much Ada without it. I haven't intimately studied the various Ada

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, again! On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Patrick wrote: > > I spent quite a lot of time studying Ada. Threading/tasking is nice but I > would rather wage holy war on blocking reads and stay single threaded. I > like COBOL and C and which are memory friendly. FreeDos is very interesting > and s

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Patrick > wrote: > >> 3)I use vim on Linux, has anyone ported this over? It looks like there is >> FreeMacs, is this my best bet for a Unix like editor ? There are a billion edi

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Patrick wrote: > > I just need to figure out the best way to network between dos and linux to > transfer the executable. FTP? If you have a working packet driver (e.g. QEMU or VBox, minimally), you can use mTCP. Or try (Mateusz's) http://etherdfs.sourceforge

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 3/9/2018 6:00 AM, Patrick wrote: >> >> 1)I want to program on FreeDos, I want to use GCC ad I want to port over >> GnuCOBOL. > > My condolences on both counts. > GCC isn't really a DOS based compiler, it is a Unix/Linux based compiler >

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > I compiled my program with DJGPP and let it collect > large amounts of data in RAM (2 GB would be easy) > and only used file I/O in periods which had relaxed > timing constraints. Because as said above, when you > (or your C library) ask th

Re: [Freedos-user] Development Environment, Embedded +

2018-03-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Patrick wrote: > > 1)I want to program on FreeDos, I want to use GCC ad I want to port over > GnuCOBOL. Are there any books or resources you could recommend, I haven't > found much on the wiki. * news://comp.os.msdos.djgpp * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!f

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 3.1 in 386 mode

2018-02-27 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 2:53 PM, jamie marchant wrote: > > I can't seem to get Windows 3.1 to run in 386 mode, is this a limitation > for FreeDos? Please don't take this the wrong way. I don't blame you for tinkering! ;-) But I wonder why you want to use such ancient (unsupported! proprie

Re: [Freedos-user] www.freedos.org

2018-02-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > By the way what is fork software, you have > it mentioned on you web site. You should > give more details for us that are less imformed. A fork is just an offshoot, a derivative project, partially based upon the same code, that is s

Re: [Freedos-user] Question Regarding FreeDOS's fdisk

2018-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Kyle Nied wrote: > > BOOTMGR looks like a good candidate, Rugxulo. Boot US seems good too... I'll > have to think about it more. > > I'm putting this project on a very temporary hold, though. I'll work on it > some more aft

Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: E100PKT 0.1, packet driver for DOS

2018-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Seth wrote: > > There's an update I didn't know about- e100b11c[3]. After adding my device id > to its list, it worked! I'm no networking guru myself, so I only use packet drivers under VMs (mostly only FTP or Wget). I know you have enough on your plate, but

Re: [Freedos-user] Question Regarding FreeDOS's fdisk

2018-01-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 3:13 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: > > Right, but finding a proper BootManager might be a bit of a challenge. > > Many bootmanager need to be installed in a FAT partition (FAT32 might be OK) > so that would be the W98 one. Some install into the MBR area only, and some > requ

Re: [Freedos-user] Question Regarding FreeDOS's fdisk

2018-01-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > There are a few FDISK variants for FreeDOS and some do > have some oddities in how to use them. For example you > may have to edit a config file to activate LBA support > for big disks or FAT32 support, in case you are in the > unlucky sit

Re: [Freedos-user] Again about CPU-loadmeter

2018-01-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Z. B. wrote: > > My question is: do we have any API offered by FDAPM to allow closer > examination of CPU load the way similar to the one described in the book? > I ponder whether it could be possible to create a script/utility, which > could show the details.

Re: [Freedos-user] Running FreeDOS floppy from a BIOS chip

2018-01-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Ivan Ivanov wrote: > > Because I am taking coreboot+SeaBIOS in attention, these hobby OS > suddenly become very useful for me : e.g. KolibriOS floppy is likely > the only way > to connect to the internet from a web browser (although a very simple one) > that is

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 12:58 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user > wrote: > >> I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a >> FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this >> combination of FreeDOS/

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 2:55 PM, TJ Edmister wrote: > > Reimplementing BIOS functions so that DOS could still run on a system > without BIOS would be useful. (I suspect someone will do this sooner or > later.) DOSEMU? It also runs under x64 Linux. AFAIK, that doesn't use the native BIOS at al

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:55 AM, blame troi wrote: > On 1/6/2018 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: >> >> Would you use a FreeDOS version that was entirely native to 32 or 64 bits? > > I believe I would. I love the basic simplicity (it's a good simplicity) of > DOS but memory issues

Re: [Freedos-user] Now it gets odd Re: FreeDOS workaround for hidden IDE controller?

2018-01-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:13 PM, E. Auer wrote: > > Possible explanation: The FreeDOS USB boot thing has a harddisk- > style bootable disk image and the BIOS of your computer has some > compatibility issue with the drive-renumbering caused by booting > from USB and/or from using a "harddisk" b

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS workaround for hidden IDE controller?

2018-01-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Freedos-user wrote: > > The workaround at the bottom of this page will have to be implemented in > FreeDOS in order to install it from USB. Writing to MSRs? Do you really think that's what Quentin did? I somehow doubt it. He seems to have us

Re: [Freedos-user] You think BETA testing means you're brave?

2018-01-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > EDICT - Enhanced Disk Image Creation Tool > > The utility is designed to really, really, really try hard to image a > diskette. If a problem occurs, it will come back again later. It could be > set to try thousands of times. > > Unfortu

Re: [Freedos-user] counterproductive UPX usage for loadhigh display /maybe other drivers also/?

2018-01-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > >> Hi, I just tried to 'lh display', but it always ends in conventional >> memory (code, codepages are perhaps in XMS): > > fortunately, after recompressing with the current UPX, the minimum > required load size is only minimally increased,

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH - unsupported remote protocol version

2017-12-31 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Anyhow, I recall seeing a thread earlier discussing something similar. At > least, I think it was similar. > I was not very interested at the time and kinda only skimmed it. But, if I > remember what I half glimpsed, > it involved so

Re: [Freedos-user] NASM update (and disk repairs)

2017-12-09 Thread Rugxulo
wanted to be clear, plus the .OBJ improvements are somewhat interesting. > On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 18:18:23 +0100 Eric Auer writes: >> >> Hi :-) >> >> Forwarding a post from Rugxulo on BTTR about NASM >> >> But back to the original topic: A new NASM version is

Re: [Freedos-user] FOSDEM Retrocomputing DevRoom CfP

2017-12-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Bart Oldeman via Freedos-user wrote: > > (still lurking but not a lot of time... over the past years) Long time no see, indeed. > I'll be at FOSDEM for work related purposes (HPC devroom). Since I'll > be there anyway I submitted a proposal for Retrocomputing

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> He doesn't know the meaning of joy. > > Reading this thread sucks any joy from me. Jim, I'm sorry you had to endure this (again). > Why is this t

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Robert, On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Robert Riebisch wrote: > >>> Jack does update drivers because he is a perfectionist, >> >> What good is a perfect painting if no one will see it? Why bake a >> gourmet meal and then throw it away? > > Maybe he's working on it for his own joy? He doesn

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > 3). https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html > > "What is free software? > > 'Free software' means software that respects users' freedom and > community. Roughly, it means that

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-17 Thread Rugxulo
mber 17, 2017, 1:59:11 AM MST, Eric Auer > wrote: > > Hi Rugxulo, Saluton, > you are not going to make Jack any more kind by publicly > sharing all private email details of your private fight... How is it "private"? He publicly posts all kinds of rude things. The only r

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote: > >> For anyone relatively new to the FreeDOS email lists, Jack's drivers come up >> every once in a while. It's mainly because he obsessively updates them, and he craves attention (despite being banned), even though he doesn't even us

Re: [Freedos-user] Desmet C 3 archived and put on Github

2017-11-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > > I think I have figured out what goes where, though I'm not sure. I've only scratched the surface of reading the manual (which is 400+ pages). > I've only done a quick "hello world" test, but it looks like it work

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > > I appreciate that! I wonder if that also happens with the exes/zipfiles that > come from desmet-c.com too? Oops, you misunderstood me. I was only talking about SmallerC (since DeSmet doesn't include PE/Win32 .EXEs) fro

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > SmallerC is very standards compliant. > (Great, I swear MS Security Essentials or whatever just deleted my .ZIP, > sigh!) Just to clarify, the existing PE/EXE binaries are (IMHO, falsely) flagged via bad "heuristi

Re: [Freedos-user] Desmet C 3 archived and put on Github

2017-11-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Thanks for the help. Anything with lots of files needs special attention (esp. due to licensing). On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > > I think I have figured out what goes where, though I'm not sure. > > I've only done a quick "hello world" test, but it lo

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > > I don't see Desmet C replacing GCC or Watcom, but it would be nice if it > could be nursed into a spot where it can replace the > hard-to-get-legitimate-copies-of Borland (vestus won't be with us forever, > and have you

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Just to clarify On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > There's nothing wrong with supporting 8086, and I still like it. But > it's far from burdensome to require 386 these days. Heck, we're > already a million years beyond that. Most developers d

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> The shareware version is equivalent to the pre-ANSI 2.51 version. > > Yes, I know that, and it's literally dated circa 1989, so that's > understandable. However, even the modern "release" has .EXEs that

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 11/8/2017 6:07 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: >>> On 11/8/2017 10:26 AM, Jim Hall wrote: >>> >>>> Not sure why DeSmet wasn't well received

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-08 Thread Rugxulo
(who hasn't been around > for quite some time, who didn't seem to like that it doesn't have a > Borland style IDE) Some people (unlike me) are vastly more productive in IDEs. > and Rugxulo (Mr.GCC, for whom it seemed to be too small) The main .ZIP that I tried didn&#x

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:46 AM, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: > > I'm surprised [Desmet] isn't included; given it's license, size and it's > ability > (taking your word for this as I haven't tried it) to generate 16 bit code > (which puts it over GCC and on a par with Watcom?). DJGPP

Re: [Freedos-user] confirmation and compiler

2017-11-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 11/7/2017 10:24 PM, Random Liegh via Freedos-user wrote: >> >> I'd like to ask if anyone has used the Desmet C compiler > > And yes, I would like to see this included in FreeDOS, as it is the only > C compiler that both produces 16 bit co

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > You might list dos payfor software, a link to it, price , > and user rating. If people get paid there might be more > activity in some types of sofware. I have a dos version > of PIXEL, looks just like windows. My copy is crippled > bu

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > I helped JP Software with the source code release to 4DOS, and the > license was my greatest mistake in open source software. > > In retrospect, I should have stuck to my original suggestion to use the GNU > GPL. You can always ask upstrea

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 10:58 AM, wrote: > > svarog386 is a good idea, but I would prefer to install the official FreeDOS > distro and than add software from something like deb-multimedia in the > Debian world. Again, the keyword is trust. The FSF won't even link to us because we link to pro

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-05 Thread Rugxulo
There are already several replies to this which I haven't read yet. So I might be missing or repeating something. But I'm going to reply anyways. On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:48 AM, wrote: > > I understand that the development of FreeDOS needs to be free as in freedom > as in open source. It makes

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, (I feel like I'm turning into Linus Torvalds. Apologies to him for the comparison.) On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > if umbpci and xmgr run more stable than jemm386, in particular > regarding umb range autodetection, then it is no surprise that > Dimitris is happy about t

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:58 AM, wrote: > > On 2017-11-04, 11:41, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: >> >> There some bad heated past definitely which hopefully will be cooled down by >> time Have you actually *tried* his latest drivers on FreeDOS proper?? If not, then why defend him? UIDE has been

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > > the wishes of the owners of the respective intellectual property have to be > respected. Personal opinion does not invalidate the law, and a so-called license is only valid if it doesn't contradict the system enforcing it. Just b

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Tom, On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > even closed, unfree, paid for software usually comes with a link so I > can find more description (rather then 'more fail-safe 386 XMS move'), > download it, see fee ( '25$ per PC'), limitations ('not for military'), > price and more.

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

2017-11-02 Thread Rugxulo
:-( On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi :-) Sigh! > Quick news from /dev/null 's drivers: (Ah, the gift that keeps on giving! Pinch me, I'm dreaming.) > He has a closed source update 1). http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Manifesto "Any effort that goes into

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

2017-08-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> On Aug 12, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Pierre LaMontagne wrote: >> >> Isn't USB 1.1 & 2.0 supposed to be compatible? My 2.0 flash drive wasn't >> recognized on >> my FD 1.1 USB PC. Is there a util that can list available drives like in in >>

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2

2017-08-10 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Just replacing the COMMAND and SYS files won’t really give you 1.2. It would > just be 1.1 an upgraded kernel. Take a look at the software comparison chart > on the official FreeDOS software repository. > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mi

Re: [Freedos-user] Install FD on a USB pendrive

2017-08-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Bonaventura de'Vidovich wrote: > > I'd like to install FD on a USB pendrive. > I have tried to use the «USB "Full" installer» image but only a little bit o > free space is avaible. How much total capacity does your jump drive have? > Besides the sistem l

Re: [Freedos-user] First time Freedos 1.2 user - Stack Oveflow / Divide By Zero during boot

2017-08-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Tony Cappellini wrote: > >> This gives access to most of the 4GB of RAM > >>>Really, so much? How's that possible? > > Depending on which motherboard we use, we get between 2.x-3.x GB, but never > the full 4GB. I see the same, but how exactly do you "get" it?

Re: [Freedos-user] First time Freedos 1.2 user - Stack Oveflow / Divide By Zero during boot

2017-08-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Tony Cappellini wrote: > > Another data point... > > Before trying FreeDOS, I currently boot MS-DOS from a USB stick, Which version of MS-DOS? > with the following config.sys. > > DOS=HIGH,UMB > device=himem.sys > device=umbpci.sys > > FILES=40 That's a fair

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS as a everyday/common-use system; Pros of making FreeDOS and Windows3 more compatible

2017-07-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > > It's more possible than ever [0] to compile the kernel with GCC. > Skeeto/Chris Wells posted [1][2] an example of compiling 16-bit code > with djgpp/GCC, including a linker script for linking 386+ real mode > code into a 64KB COM.

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