On 2002-02-16, Sven Neumann wrote:
> "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > These options could be beneath buttons in a dialog that appears on
> > start-up instead of or along side the tool box.
> >
> > Sure, they only save some scrolling in a menu, but I believe these
> > extra tr
On 2002-02-18, Carol Spears wrote:
> On 2002-02-13 at 1539.15 +0100, Sven Neumann typed this mail:
> > Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > On 2002-02-13 at 0058.58 +0100, Sven Neumann typed this mail:
> > > > I'd also like to remove TODO.xml and TODO from the source tree and put
>
While I was working on the list of parasites (which is more than one
week late, sorry), I started thinking about the changes to the PDB or
to the plug-in API that have been discussed on this list or submitted
to bugzilla.gnome.org. Here is a summary of the changes that I still
have in mind (pleas
Sven Neumann wrote:
> very nicely done, Raphael. Perhaps we should make this list of changes
> available somewhere (www.gimp.org)?
Done. The list is now on the page that describes the stable version
(http://www.gimp.org/stable_ver.html). It contains direct links to
Bugzilla for the important
I just had a look at Changelog for 1.2.3 and the list of bug reports
that have been fixed since 1.2.2 was released...
Here is a list of the significant changes between 1.2.2 and 1.2.3:
- Many improvements to the documentation and help pages.
- Updated translations.
- The binaries and manpages are
On Thu, 07 Feb 2002, Jon Winters wrote:
> Went to an Adobe conference yesterday and they claim photoshop 6 has been
> tested with images up to 8000 layers. They said it can probably handle
> more but that is where they stopped testing. How many layers are we
> supporting? (heh... memory is
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:17:21PM +0100, Raphael Quinet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > EXIF data and simply copy the descriptions given in the EXIF standard.
> > Some of the fields will have to be d
On Tue, 06 Feb 2002, Adam D. Moss wrote:
> Raphael Quinet wrote:
>
> > But it needs to be extended with all the names of the EXIF parasites.
> > So I will try to do that this week. Basically, I think that it would
> > be enough to use the name "gimp-blah&
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Dave Neary wrote:
> Parasite naming is non-standard. Anyone can create a parasite with any
> name they want. [...]
> Where *is* the list of parasites? There are only (as you point out)
> about 10 persistent parasites, and the list isn't maintained anywhere.
> One possibl
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Adam D. Moss wrote:
> Raphael Quinet wrote:
> > The only thing that is missing is a standard list of names and types
> > for all parasites.
>
> {docs|devel-docs}/parasites.txt
Err... Right. I knew that the file existed (I took a look at it the
l
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Dave Neary wrote:
> Raphael wrote:
> > There are several reasons for using individual parasites for each
> > part of the EXIF data instead of using a single parasite including
> > the whole structure:
>
> [snipped points]
>
> Your points all have merit. My problem is no
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Dave Neary wrote:
> Raphael Quinet wrote:
> > [...] Note that it is important
> > that each individual item in the EXIF data is converted to a
> > separate GIMP parasite instead of importing the whole EXIF data in
> > one big chunk because [...]
On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Lutz Müller wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 15:04, Sven Neumann wrote:
> >if it solves our problems and works for non-JPEG images too, I don't
> >see any problem in adding such a dependency to gimp-1.3.
>
> EXIF information is specific to JPEG files. Therefore, editing and
On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Lutz Müller wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 14:29, Dave Neary wrote:
>
> >Thereare a couple of other libraries which do pretty much the same
> >thing -
> >see the relevant bug numbers in bugzilla (not sure what they are right
> >now).
> >I haven't had a chance to look cl
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 05:53, syngin wrote:
> >Would it not be a better idea to figure out the country of origin for
> >those attending and place the convention closest to the majority?
> >
> No.. because then we'd be in Germany again. Yosh wants
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Carol Spears wrote:
> On 2002-01-20 at 2053.12 -0800, syngin typed this mail:
> >Would it not be a better idea to figure out the country of origin for
> >those attending and place the convention closest to the majority?
The list of those attenting will probably change depe
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
> Please everyone test this how to and see if it is lacking anything. It
> is intended to be a beginner tutorial for compiling gimp 1.2 from CVS.
[...]
> http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/howtos/cvs/cvs.html
Some parts of the tutorial are Linux-centric or
On 08 Jan 2002, Michael Natterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The only feature I miss when I use GIMP is that of Photoshop's brush
> > cursors. In Photoshop, when you choose a 12pixel brush, your cursor becomes
> > a 12pixel sphere (or whatever shape of the brush)
On Wed, 04 Dec 2001, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> I am getting these things a LOT on debian/ppc machine running Xfree 4.1
> and the debian gimp packages. The symptoms are as follows: at some
> point, seems to be related to undo, Save, Save As etc get grayed out
> from the menus. I also get the fo
On Wed, 05 Dec 2001, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 07:36:25PM +1030, syngin wrote:
> > Perhaps this is an option if we can list all the main Operating Systems
> > that The GIMP is used on, and locate a common application accross all of
> > them that can adequately render
On Tue, 04 Dec 2001, Dave Neary wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 03:32:18PM +0100, Raphael Quinet wrote:
> > Some time ago, I submitted two bug reports about this:
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56443 (EXIF and metadata)
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/
On Tue, 04 Dec 2001, Nick Lamb wrote:
> Maybe I said this before, I can't remember, but "the standard" for trying
> to describe generic metadata is Dublin Core. So before burning too much
> midnight oil trying to organise metadata into neat categories at least
> type "Dublin Core" into a searc
On Tue, 04 Dec 2001, Marc wrote:
> > ImageMagick has NO license. The only thing we say is:
[...]
> In any case, my version of ImageMagick (older, 5.3.6) does have a license
> (in Copyright.txt).
>
> (and I think it is very much BSD-like).
Right. And I was wrong in my previous comment: the
On Tue, 04 Dec 2001, Dave Neary wrote:
> So I've been pretty quiet for several months now, and I recently
> nailed my flag to the mast, picked somethign from the TODO and
> started working on it. It's the Image metadata object item, which
> grew out of a desire to get the data out of the EXIF
On Tue, 04 Dec 2001, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
> At 12:06 PM 12/4/2001 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
>> if you ask me, this is a bad idea and wasted time and effort, but I
>> guess it's too late now to discourage you from trying to read XCF.
>
> Why would adding support for XCF to ImageMagick be
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Laramie Leavitt wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Kelly Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:48:33PM -0700, Laramie Leavitt wrote:
>>> Is anyone actively working on GIMP 2?
>>
>> Insofar as there is activity on GIMP 1.4, yes.
>>
> Is anyone working on it insofar as it re
Earlier today, Branko Collin wrote:
> On 25 Nov 2001, at 13:27, Ed Halley wrote:
>> 1. For community involvement, the main GIMP website really must be
>> brought
>> up to date. Most of the GIMP script links are stale or broken.
>> Any whiff of "dead project" will turn off many people who wo
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Avi Bercovich wrote:
> eh I work as a webdesigner in an Amsterdam based 'top tier' New
> Media company. I do little in the way of print graphics thus this may be
> a bit off-topic... But, all my work is done in GNU/Linux in GIMP, whilst
> my co-workers use Macs and pho
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Dave Neary wrote:
>> By mailing the 10/15 most critical bugs on a monthly basis
>> to the list, I think people will be more likely to fix
>> them. I know that I was when Sven last posted his trawl
>> through outstanding bugs. It also has the benefit of
>> connecting
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Personally it got me lookign at bugzilla (a habit that has since
> > lapsed), and looking at the thread it seemed to lead to the resolution
> > of a fair few bugs. Do people think that doing this on a regular
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 14 Nov, Raphael Quinet wrote:
>> Hmmm... Of course, Bugzilla goes down just when I send a mail telling
>> everybody to use it. It looks like bugzilla.gnome.org is not the only
>> address affected, because www.gnome.or
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 14 Nov, Raphael Quinet wrote:
>> Bugzilla is usually better at handling bugs than this mailing list:
>> - Bugzilla is available to everybody, including those who do not read
>> this list. I think that it was a mist
Hmmm... Of course, Bugzilla goes down just when I send a mail telling
everybody to use it. It looks like bugzilla.gnome.org is not the only
address affected, because www.gnome.org seems to be down as well.
They do not even respond to ping.
The downtimes on these hosts have been rather short in
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
>> Can somebody explain to me why bug reports are A Bad Thing in this
>> case?
>
> Because it is too broken. It would result in 6 zillion bug reports.
> The release is intended for DEVELOPERS... for people who want to hack on
> it and make patch
On Mon, 08 Oct 2001, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Daniel could you please take the discussion about UTF-8 and editors
> somewhere else?! Then, if you want to propose something that is GIMP
> related, please take your time to write up an elaborate proposal and
> try to explain your ideas in a way that al
For what it's worth, here is my opinion on the Tip of the Day messages
and their translations. In summary: keep it simple! I know that
being the one who introduced these tips in the Gimp does not grant me
any special priviledges (especially since I am not translating them)
but it looks like the
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001, Jens Lautenbacher wrote:
> On 08 Aug 2001 16:10:31 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> the problem is that "#" is not nestable. and the file system layer might
>> want to use it itself.
>
> Hmm? No. Fragments are interpreted by the UserAgent.
>
Exactly. As I wrote in my p
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001, Nick Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMHO you'd be better off just using:
>
> wad://home/raph/slimy.wad/p/alien.foo
>
> This can be handled today in Gimp 1.2, see url.c
>
> Non-interactive stuff would go exclusively through these URLs while the
> interactive user wo
Now that 1.2.2 has been released, many bugs that were fixed in CVS
should be officially closed, since they are part of a release.
If we were a serious company ;-) there would be a QA team changing the
state of the bugs reports from FIXED to VERIFIED, and then changing
them from VERIFIED to CLOSED
This is going to be a bit long, but here is a quick summary: I would
like to change the API to the load/save plug-ins by adding one extra
parameter. This parameter would be ignored by almost all current
plug-ins, but it would be useful for the file formats that can contain
multiple images. For e
Time for a collective pat on the back...
I just looked at the reports from David Wheeler estimating the total
number of lines of code that make the current GNU/Linux systems. He
compared the lines of code in RedHat 7.1 with his previous report from
last year, which was based on 6.2. In both cas
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote:
[about http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51164 ]
> Yes, it's exactly the problem described in the bug-report. Gimp does
> only attach a gimp-comment parasite to an image if it is created using
> File->New. Other ways to create an image (Paste as
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi, Big, Fat Piggy Gimp Fans,
>
> here's a very small patch that should fix our huge leak:
[...]
> I don't consider this a clean solution but since it's a very small change,
> we should be able to evaluate easily if it is a correct fix. A better fix
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Gustaf Barkstrom wrote:
> I joined this newsgroup to see if I could get some help compiling gimp
> 1.2.1. Am I in the right place? Is there a help list for sysadmins etc.
> who are having compilation/configure problems? deja news
> (groups.google.com)
> has yielded not
On Sat, 09 Jun 2001, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> it seems that mandrake-8.0 comes with a broken gimp-perl, but I am not
> sure what is atcually the culript. the wrokaround (compiling/installing it
> yourself) has worked fine so far.
It seems that the whole Gimp package in Mandrake 8.0 behaves strang
Yesterday, I wrote:
> Hmmm... Maybe I should re-post this as an article on Advogato?
>
That's what I did. You can find the article here:
http://advogato.org/article/287.html
Some of the replies are interesting, even if they would be a bit
off-topic for this list.
-Raphael
___
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Can GIMP be started with all the windows grouped the way I want?
>> [... lots of complains deleted]
>
> Your problem is basically that your window manager sucks. If working
> on Unix using a decent window manager
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-06-06 at 1724.41 +0200):
>> Here is a suggestion. I doubt that I will implement it, but maybe
>> David can do it since he wants to improve the installation process.
>> Keep the current dialog as it is (
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Avi Bercovich wrote:
> As ever I;m not quite sure where I go to post bug reports, so I;m
> posting to the list.
The best way to post bug reports is to submit them to Bugzilla
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org/) because they will stay on the radar
screen until someone fixes them.
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Sven Neumann wrote:
> David Monniaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The installation process is frightening:
>>
>> 1. The user is presented with a dialog box "Welcome to GIMP" that is half
>> full of legalese (NO GUARANTEE etc...).
>
> actually our first version had an
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Chetan Dhavse wrote:
[...]
> [--enable-stack-trace {never|query|always} option is not available in
> with gimp 1.1.04]
>
[...]
> This is the strace -p -s o/p
>
> #
> read(0, "", 4096) = 0
> getpid(
On Sat, 26 May 2001, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 02:11:54PM +0530, Chetan Dhavse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am using Gimp 1.1.4(I find this version more stable)
>
> same here.. gimp-1.2 has big stability and memory problems when it
> encounters lots of images in successio
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> On 22 May 2001 02:09:00 +0200, Branko Collin wrote:
>> On 21 May 2001, at 17:47, Raphael Quinet wrote:
>>> So in parallel with the discussion about the distribution of plug-ins,
>>> there should be a discussion about how
I have been away for a while and I have not been able to contribute
much to the discussion about the web site. I haven't finished reading
all messages that have been posted since last week but, like Branko
Collin, I am worried that the discussion has focused on technical
issues related to the pre
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
[...skipped nice joke...]
> BTW, is there a Script-fu coding style? I have an idea in mind: clean
> scripts a bit, and publish some rules, in the same way Gimp C code has
> some rules (published?).
As far as I know, there is no Scr
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Simon Budig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christoph Rauch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > The current page displayed in lynx is "suboptimal".
Well, at least it is not too bad. It is still looking better in lynx
than http://gug.sunsite.dk/ and some other gimp-related pages.
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Christoph Rauch wrote:
[...]
> The site-design neednt be redesigned from scratch. It may be enough to
> polish it up and remove the "Gimp-standard-script"-look, which was copied
> all over the web and today has a bit trashy touch. Definitely not a good
> representation fo
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Christoph Rauch wrote:
> Nick Lamb schrieb:
> > That's pretty poor. Why would I want to update my bookmarks?
>
> You need not. gimp.org will happily redirect you to the page you wanted.
Hmmm... This is better than nothing, but if would be nice if there
could be some real
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Christoph Rauch wrote:
> Raphael Quinet schrieb:
[...]
> > and the systems that generate dynamic contents using horribly long URLs
> > should also be avoided (see the bad examples from Corel below).
>
> There is always mod_rewrite. This way we ca
(sorry for the incorrect date in my previous mail)
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Nick Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 05:47:33PM +0200, Raphael Quinet wrote:
>> One of the things that has been mentioned several times while
>> discussing the distribution of
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Michael Spunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried some stuff ony my own, too. Maybe you would like to have a look
> at it:
> http://www.technoid.f2s.com/gimp.org/index.php
>
> Changing the navigation structure was the main goal here, so it differs
> from your effort.
Well,
One of the things that has been mentioned several times while
discussing the distribution of plug-ins is the fact that the menus are
too crowded, and new users can easily get lost. The user interface is
indeed a significant problem, but I think that it should be handled
separately from the packag
On Sun, 20 May 2001, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-05-20 at 0133.49 +0200):
> > > Regarding the question to include it with core Gimp: As already
> > > discussed here several times, the plan is to distribute less
> > > plug-ins with
On Fri, 18 May 2001, "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> My question is: when is a reworking of a script good enough to be
> included in the distribution? Is there some kind of policy for this?
Well, if you add some features that can generally be considered useful
and you do not
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Fabian Frédérick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I made a gallery maker plug-in + batch convertion ...
> available from : http://www.dtlord.com/gallery
>
> Somebody could tell me who to contact in order to put it in Gimp
> distribution ?
You have done it already by posting your
On Thu, Apr 26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Anyway. The initial owner of most of the bugs is now [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> however it's a pity to reassign the open ones to this account
> (at least for me) so if you want this please reassign them yourselves
OK... I used the nice feature "Change
I am trying to help Daniel (and others, hopefully) by dealing with the bug
reports in bugzilla. This means confirming recently submitted bugs, replying
to some questions, asking for more information about incomplete bug reports,
and so on. But some of the bug reports are platform-specific and I
I have a small suggestion for the handling of bug reports and bug fixes:
Whenever you commit a bug fix in CVS and this bug was reported in bugzilla,
do the following things:
- In the commit message (and Changelog entry), include a reference to the
bug number. For example: "Added a test around
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 21 Apr, Mike Kelly wrote:
> > A month ago I submitted two bug reports using Bugzilla. To date, they
> > remain in the "UNCONFIRMED" state. I've already patched my version of
> > GIMP as per bug 52383, so this doesn't really bother me excep
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Nick Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 10:56:32AM +0100, Austin Donnelly wrote:
> > I really don't see what's wrong with using a ruler. The CD idea is
> > cute, I have to agree.
>
> There is a tiny problem. I can hold the ruler _near_ my screen but I
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Seth Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree about your goal of exporting all functionality
> through the PDB.
>
> However, the *_cmds.c files are auto-generated by the
> tool pdbgen. Changing the files in the pdb directory
> would be the proper fix; your patch requires
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Johannes Zellner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just compiled gimp from the CVS sources. Here are just two remarks:
>
> 1) Some of the Tool buttons are missing, is this intended ?
Yes. As announced on GIMP News (http://www.xach.com/gimp/news/) by
Zach Beane on the 15th of J
A few minutes ago, I wrote:
> The address of the mailing list has changed, and it is likely that
> some archive sites have not updated their filters and have rejected
> the mails when they started coming from a different address. The gimp
> mailing lists are now running from lists.xcf.berkeley.ed
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, "wolfgang hofer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody know what's wrong with
> GIMP mailing list Archives ?
> The gimp-devel Archive does not update
> since weeks.
The address of the mailing list has changed, and it is likely that
some archive sites have not updated thei
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Seth Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know you're trying to make a point, but I'd actually
> agree with that assessment too, if for slightly
> different reasons. The user has no way of knowing
> what shade of gray they are about to place on the
> image. I don't think t
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) writes:
[...]
> > Consider the following cases, which should all produce a file with
> > transparency, if the File->Save plug-ins were working as the user
> > would ex
Several months ago, there was a discussion about RGB vs RGBA images,
and why the background layer was "special" and required the option
"Add Alpha Channel". IIRC, the conclusions were:
- because it saves memory -- which is useful for huge images, but it only
makes sense if you disable undo and
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