Re: [Gimp-user] Basic Color Management

2016-02-11 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Mike Brennan"  čálii:

> GIMP 2.8.14 Windows 7 64
>
> In Preferences -> Color Management I've selected "Mode of operation" =
> "Color managed display"
>
> There's a checkbox: "Try to use the system monitor profile" that I'm
> unclear about.
>
> I've calibrated/profiled my display with ColorMunki hardware. My
> understanding (wrong?) is that ColorMunki installed an appropriate
> profile for my display on the system, and that all output from ANY
> application to the display goes through an OS driver that uses that
> profile. If that is so, my assumption is that GIMP will "use" the
> correct display profile implicitly, without needing to be told to do so.
>
> I do not understand whether checking "Try to use the system monitor
> profile" is unnecessary, redundant, or even harmful.

When you profile your display you get a two-part result:

- a vcgt/LUT part that does white point correction, applied system-wide
  on login (it's often noticable when this is applied, e.g. with
  slightly colder or warmer colours all-round)

- a gamma/hue/saturation part that has to be applied by individual
  colour-managed programs

On Linux, if you have the right setup, programs can query the system for
what file contains the gamma/hue/saturation part – that's the part
that's applied by the "Try to use the system monitor profile" checkbox.
So this should work in e.g. GNOME or KDE if you've selected your profile
in your system colour management settings, but in desktops like XFCE you
have to run a separate program, or select the profile manually from GIMP
settings.

Caveat: I have no formal training in this, please read what the experts
say instead:
https://encrypted.pcode.nl/blog/2013/11/24/display-color-profiling-on-linux/


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released

2015-11-27 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Michael Natterer  čálii:

> Hi,
>
> We originally wanted to get this done on GIMP's 20th
> birthday last week, but...
>
> Anyway, here is the first development release in the
> GIMP 2.9.x series leading to GIMP 2.10.

[...]

> Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.8.0 to GIMP 2.9.2
> =

That changelog was quite impressive! Congratulations on the release :-)



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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?

2015-05-29 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Mukund Sivaraman  writes:

> Many distros ship GIMP, even slightly patched versions for bugfixes or
> better integration into their environments. This improves the experience
> for users. Formally registering a GIMP trademark may not be seen in a
> good light by distributions, even if we readily wish to see them use the
> name. See Firefox vs. Iceweasel for example.

The Firefox *logo* did not meet Debian Free Software Guidelines. Since
Debian didn't want to include non-free artwork, and Firefox's trademark
policy is that you need to include the logo to call it Firefox, it was
rebranded for Debian. If Wilber were a non-free artwork, Debian would
not include it regardless of trademarks, but I see Wilber at
https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gimp so I'm pretty sure the logo
must be Debian-proof :) And
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GIMP_Icon.svg says public domain.

> Even though GIMP is an established project, we generally don't want to
> spend time as contributors to fight a legal battle. There are even
> questions of whether we *should*, i.e., whether an established free
> software project has to register trademarks and involve lawyers to
> protect it from being misused this way.

Is trademarking completely out of the question? I see not only Firefox,
but ImageMagick, Inkscape, GNOME, GNU and Linux in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trademarked_open-source_software –
Inkscape being of similar "size" to GIMP, does anyone know how much work
it cost them to register their trademark, and how much it costs them to
keep it?

Reading through
https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html#x1-6k5
it doesn't look too bad in terms of money. (The whole section on
trademarks there is worth reading.)

Also, it seems you may in fact call it GIMP™ already, since you have
certain "unregistered rights" to the trademark just because GIMP has
been used by this project as a trademark in practice. (But "®" requires
registering.)

If you have a trademark, but never object to anyone using it in
commercial/confusing settings, it might get lost. But you can avoid
having to explicitly say yes to every distro and similar "good usage" by
having a simple license like GNOME does:
https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/FoundationBoard/Resources/LicensingGuidelines
See also https://www.gnome.org/logo-and-trademarks/

Then there's the nasty part, which is actually going after abuses. SFLC
says:

> If you disapprove of someone’s unlicensed use which infringes upon your
> exclusive rights, you should send a polite email to the infringer
> notifying them of your claim to the mark, and that their use is
> unacceptable. You might suggest a licensing arrangement, contingent on
> some changes in their usage of the mark. If you believe such an
> arrangement is impossible, ask the violator to fix the problem. Be
> polite but firm. It is often the case that license violations are
> inadvertent and easily fixed. Offer to help the violator take whatever
> steps are needed to achieve compliance, and avoid threats of publicity
> and lawsuits for as long as possible. Make sure the violator understands
> that your primary concern is the project’s reputation, not a large
> financial settlement. Once you convince them of that point, they are
> likely to respond more positively even if they were initially
> unresponsive. 

I'm pretty sure people are used to doing this kind of "polite-but-firm"
emailing wrt. GPL violations anyway, except that with a registered
trademark you have some weight behind you to do it with malware
distributors such as SourceForge as well.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Idea for a «colour-key» filter

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Arran  writes:

> Hello
>
>
> I have a request:
>
> Many of the new compact cameras have an interesting gadget included: A colour
> key filter. You choose one of six or so predefined colours and the result is
> then a black and white picture except everything in this colour. However, the
> colour is very narrowly defined. If you choose green, there is a medium green,
> much lighter or darker greens stay black/white. Furthermore everything in the
> choosen colour are coloured.

Did you try the menu item Colours→Colourize? 

[...]

> Also it should be possible to
> narrow the colour to just a certain part of the picture. Example: a housefront
> with 10 shutters, all in green. I want just one of these shutters keeping its
> green, all others have, like the rest of all colours, to be black and white.

Select the window that you want to have colour, invert the selection,
click Colours→Desaturate.

> Is there a possiblility to achieve this with present tools or is there 
> interest
> from sombody to develop such a filter or a plug-in and include it into Gimp?

Pretty sure it's all built-in already ;-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Elaborating Export functionality

2014-01-14 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Øyvind Kolås  writes:

> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Andrew_Bridget
>  wrote:
>> This is such a common task, there may be cause to have a Resize
>> option bundled with the Export command. Having to always perform
>> them as two separate steps is an annoyance, but the possibility of
>> accidentally saving the wrong resolution back to the XCF file is a
>> danger.
>>
>> A question that asked late last year as I had a need to resize and
>> keep working on original. That's when I found the save for web had
>> been reinstated as 2.6.
>
> Part of the motivation for the save/export distinction in the first
> place is later being able to introduce such improvements to export
> workflows (as well as other neat things; like being able to choose
> between export presets, multiple named regions - and more). Without a
> clear conceptual internal seperation - such future improvements will
> be much harder.

I've been wanting a "scaled export" function myself … In the meanwhile,
http://shallowsky.com/blog/gimp/gimp-export-scaled.html works well.

It doesn't remember the last scale you used second time around, but it
does remember the format so you don't have to change xcf→jpg each time.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Free plugins / filters?

2013-11-21 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Jehan Pagès  writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM, saraveza408  wrote:
>> Im new at Gimp & Im wondering if there are any filters, plugins or extras I 
>> can
>> download free? If so how do I install them? Please & Thank you!
>
> You have the GIMP registry: http://registry.gimp.org/
>
> Then you may have some particular filters, more famous than others
> with their own website. For instance the G'MIC filters collection are
> getting quite a lot of publicity lately:
> http://gmic.sourceforge.net/gimp.shtml
>
> You may have to search more, but yes there are quite a bit of
> resources for GIMP. :-)

Make sure you get Resynthesizer (search for "gimp resynthesizer" on
youtube to see why). Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux or something else?

http://registry.gimp.org/node/25219 is the main page for resynthesizer.
https://github.com/bootchk/resynthesizer is the source, but if you
don't know how to compile, there are pre-compiled versions for most
systems.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Record Actions

2013-10-31 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
steveleach  writes:

> Good Day - I recently found GIMP and think it is amazing.  I've been a 
> PhotoShop
> user for years, and actually prefer GIMP.  The one thing I can't seem to 
> figure
> out is holding me back from using GIMP exclusively, and that is the Record
> Action feature.  I have to manipulate about 100 pictures per day - simply 
> resize
> a picture to 6x4" @ 300 dpi, save it, resize again at 100 dpi, put a 10 pixel;
> black border around it and save it to another directory.  I can do this to a
> hundered picitures in about a minute with PhotoShop, but it takes quite a 
> while
> with GIMP.  I am no techie ... any suggestions?

Unfortunately there is no _general_ record action feature. But for
actions such as this, there is a nice plugin that works just fine.

You can get the plugin BIMP here:
http://www.alessandrofrancesconi.it/projects/bimp/

The first part is very easy with BIMP. The second part is also fairly
easy, though a little hacky.

BIMP shows up in the File menu. From there, add an action to resize to
6x4" 300dpi, add images and do the export. First step done.

Now create a 6x4" 100dpi PNG image with a transparent background and a
10px border. Add the same images to BIMP, add an action to resize to
6x4" 100dpi, and another action to add a watermark. Place the watermark
in the center, and select your PNG.

This seems to work from my quick testing, though I guess it would be
better if BIMP itself had an "add border" feature. (In the Future, GIMP
itself may support script recording and playback:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Roadmap )


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Re: [Gimp-user] Adware/malware in Gimp Windows distribution?

2013-10-10 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ean Schuessler  writes:

> Hi, 
>
>
> My girlfriend downloaded the GIMP windows build referenced off the
> GIMP.org website and it seems to have a Malware/Adware package called
> "Sweetpacks" bundled with it. I realize that the Windows version of
> GIMP is linked with a "hey, this isn't us" kind of disclaimer but the
> fact that GIMP.org links to it gives the sense that its contents are
> trustworthy or, at least, not hostile. If there is really no
> validation of that distribution and it contains these kinds of
> softwares then it may not be such a good idea to have GIMP.org linking
> to it.

I guess you're referring to this paragraph from gimp.org/downloads:

GIMP for Windows

The GIMP team doesn't officially provide any Windows installers. You can, 
however, install GIMP easily using the Windows installers by Jernej Simončič.

Download GIMP 2.8.6 – Installer for Windows XP SP3 or later

which _should_ link to http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ ? That page says
gimp-2.8.6-setup.exe should have an md5sum of
c0e253c5c4124c8b881ca44828839f5e (and I get that too when I download the
exe). I don't have a windows to test with, maybe someone else can
confirm that md5sum on this list, or maybe you could check if your
download has a different md5sum?

(Could it be that someone has registered some similar-looking typo to
gimp.org and is serving malware? Or that some already-installed malware
is redirecting downloads?)


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Crowdfunding Proposal for Symmetry/Mirror Painting in GIMP

2013-09-17 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Jehan Pagès  writes:

[...]

> The OpenFunding people told me that your account is well activated, so
> there should be no problem.
> They think that maybe you have deactivated cookies.
>
> If that's not else, you may write the wrong password. You should be
> able to reset it there:
> http://funding.openinitiative.com/user/resetpassword

My browser auto-remembered email+password when I created my account, but
openinitiative seems to only accept username+password to log in (and
From what I can tell didn't inform that there was a username/password
failure, maybe they should allow both versions or inform that they
don't).

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Crowdfunding Proposal for Symmetry/Mirror Painting in GIMP

2013-09-17 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Jehan Pagès  writes:

[...]

> And if you like it, please fund me and spread the word:
> http://funding.openinitiative.com/funding/1578/

That page won't let me log in after registering + verifying (no error
message, I just get redirected back to the login page). 

Do you have a BTC address or flattr account at least?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about bump map location

2013-09-03 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Judy Wilson  writes:

[...]

> My question: I would like to put a "watermark" of my logo on images,
> and I can do so with the Map, Bump Map Filter. However, the location
> of the bump map is a problem. At 0 on the X and Y Offset sliders, it
> goes into the upper left hand corner. OK. The problem is the sliders
> only move to -1000, and my images are often larger than that, and I
> want to put the bump map into the lower right hand corner, and the
> sliders will not allow that. Typing in the numbers doesn't work, and
> moving the bump map in the preview with the middle mouse button
> doesn't work. Of course if I make the images smaller I can get it into
> the right hand lower corner, but I want to use the larger image. Any
> solution for this, or do I have to just live with this ... defect(?)
> for now. Thank you!

I added https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707354 (I can't
imagine such an arbitrary maximum is intentional?)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-08-30 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
physoc  writes:

>>physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote:
>>Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or?
>>
>>Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers
>>certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing
>>software makes a lot of sense.
>>
>>Bye,
>>Simon
>
> Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on 
> GIMPUSERS.comat
> www.getgimp.com

Would trademarking help with getting rid of these dubious sites?

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Re: [Gimp-user] reconciling script-fu interactive and batch arguments

2013-08-30 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Gary Aitken  writes:

> I have never learned / figured out / been pointed at an example
> for how to properly write a script which is usable in both interactive 
> and batch modes.

[...]

> This works, but neither procedure is making any use of what should be 
> the first argument (missing from add-watermark above but present in 
> batch-add-watermark) which is the mode.
>
> My gut says the mode is there to make this all much easier, 
> but I can't figure it out.  

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/23601 seems like you
can't use run-mode from script-fu (though you can from e.g. Python).


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Re: [Gimp-user] Save for Web for GIF Animations?

2013-08-29 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
On a somewhat related note, https://gist.github.com/unhammer/6376239 is
a tiny command-line (bash 4) script that creates animated SVG's from
whatever images you feed it. Might be useful (I've gotten smaller size
images with better colours than GIF can give with it).

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[Gimp-user] APNG kickstarter includes GIMP in stretch goal

2013-08-29 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
I just noticed this kickstarter for FOSS APNG tools:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/374397522/apngasm-foss-animated-png-tools-and-apng-standardi

APNG is a format for making PNG animations, sort of like a "better
animated GIF", with 24-bit colour, real transparency, and possibility
for smaller file sizes with the same image.

They've reached their minimum goal, but not yet the following stretch
goal:

$12,500: GIMP implementation complete with a robust animation editor
 (that can hopefully be used for other animation formats in the
 future such as WebP).

They've got 10 days to go, and $3,710 left to be pledge, before they
have enough to make a GIMP implementation (I'm assuming as a plugin?).

(Also, for Inkscape people, they say at $32,000 they'll make "A keyframe
animation editor with basic tween animation features for Inkscape
complete with SVG+SMIL output and export to APNG".)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Save for Web for GIF Animations?

2013-08-25 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Steve Kinney  writes:

> To radically reduce the file size of an animated GIF, use the
> command Filters > Animation > Optimize (for GIF).  This will create
> a new image, with everything that does NOT change from one frame to
> the next, deleted from the next frame, from the bottom of the layer
> stack (first frame) to the top (last frame).

But always try exporting both with and without "Optimize (for GIF)".
When I try optimising, it typically makes the GIF file about 2 % larger
rather than smaller (example: http://filebin.net/oagzulb65w).

I've also tried ImageMagick's "convert -layers Optimize" on
GIMP-exported gifs. This either makes the file larger (regardless of if
I've used "Optimize (for GIF)" in GIMP first), or crashes with

convert: malloc.c:2369: sysmalloc: Assertion `(old_top == (((mbinptr) (((char 
*) &((av)->bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk, 
fd && old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long) (old_size) >= (unsigned 
long)__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk, fd_nextsize))+((2 * 
(sizeof(size_t))) - 1)) & ~((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))) && ((old_top)->size & 
0x1) && ((unsigned long)old_end & pagemask) == 0)' failed.
Aborted (core dumped)

What does have a major effect, however, is doing Image→Mode→Indexed and
selecting some low number of colours. (This is where "Save for Web" is
handy, since it lets you type in numbers and press TAB and get a quick
preview of indexing. "Save for Web" doesn't save animations though, so
it's _only_ useful for that preview.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected

2013-08-16 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Liam R E Quin  writes:

> On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:15 +0200, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>
>> Ideally GIMP could blink the image or something when you add selection
>> points that don't increase/decrease the already selected area, but I
>> guess that might take some time to implement.
> GIMP can't know that until you complete the selection shape.

It can't know that the complete final area will be a subset of the
whole, but it can know from a single point that they will overlap. But
perhaps other people rely on creating many partly-overlapping selections
when they work, and would find a blink (or whatever) annoying.

> I've often wished for "repeat the last selection but in a different
> mode" (rather like Again rather than Redo).

Ooh, yes that would be even better :-)

> In the Glorious Shoeless Future With GEGL and Non-Destructive Editing
> (GSFWGEGLNDE) presumably your suggestion would involve editing the graph
> slightly - e.g. to insert "Select None" into the history graph.

or that :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:

> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>>
>> Say you've zoomed in to start this painstaking freehand selection with
>> lots and lots of points, and when you get to the end, nothing gets
>> selected. Then you notice that, once again, you had done a Select All
>> some time ago (invisible because you zoomed in) and forgotten to Select
>> None before clicking the lasso.
>>
>> What do people do to avoid this?
>
> http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/saving-and-restoring-selections-in-gimp

So your strategy is to always start with quick masks? Or you hit Shift-Q
often?


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Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ofnuts  writes:

> On 08/15/2013 11:15 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>> Say you've zoomed in to start this painstaking freehand selection with
>> lots and lots of points, and when you get to the end, nothing gets
>> selected. Then you notice that, once again, you had done a Select All
>> some time ago (invisible because you zoomed in) and forgotten to Select
>> None before clicking the lasso.
>>
>> What do people do to avoid this? (I know the obvious answer is "remember
>> to check what your selection is all the time", but that's seriously
>> flow-disruptive.)
>
> People don't do anything because having  a "Select all" or  any
> previously existing selection doesn't prevent a freehand selection (or
> any other kind of selection), which will replace the existing
> selection(*). What often happens is that the person forgets s/he
> turned off the "marching ants", so as soon as the selection is
> completed, all indication of selection disappears. while the selection
> is indeed there (display it with the quick mask or with Ctrl-T).
>
> (*) or add/substract/intersect with it depending on key combos when
> starting the tool. Of course if you shift-click (asking for addition)
> with an existing full selection, you will get the full selection.

Sorry, forgot to mention, I typically have the "add to selection" button
on. It's a lot more pleasant to use when doing large freehand selections
than having to hold the shift button, and avoids that other dangerous
situation where your shift-clicking finger starts fatiguing and you let
go for a click and the dots start looking weird and you hit return to
just add what you've got and the old selection is all gone.


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Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Elle Stone  writes:

> I'm always forgetting whether there's a previous selection still in
> force, especially as often I temporarily set the selection to
> invisible (it's hard to see the results of painting the selected areas
> on fine details if the marching ants are in the way), and then forget
> to make the selection visible again.

Been there, done that :)

> Is there a way to put the selection status on the status bar?
> Something like "Current selection: All/None/Partial" or some such?
> Kevin, would this type of status bar notification help in your
> situation?

That might help. But it's hard to say beforehand if such a notification
would work well, since this is one of those things that happen only when
you're not aware of it :-/


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[Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Say you've zoomed in to start this painstaking freehand selection with
lots and lots of points, and when you get to the end, nothing gets
selected. Then you notice that, once again, you had done a Select All
some time ago (invisible because you zoomed in) and forgotten to Select
None before clicking the lasso.

What do people do to avoid this? (I know the obvious answer is "remember
to check what your selection is all the time", but that's seriously
flow-disruptive.)

Ideally GIMP could blink the image or something when you add selection
points that don't increase/decrease the already selected area, but I
guess that might take some time to implement.

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Re: [Gimp-user] com

2013-07-10 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"naoto"  writes:

> Goodmorning
> we have dowload the new version of GIMP, but we don’t be able to save the 
> immages in jpg
> Why?

Use File → Export

See http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/it/gimp-images-out.html#save-export-image

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Re: [Gimp-user] question about scrambing images in gimp

2013-05-31 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
KATHLEEN LORALEE KELLER  writes:

> Hi All,
> I'm new to gimp, but wanted to know if there's a way we can scramble
> images using the program. We are trying to make images unrecognizable
> through scrambling (while still retaining the image colors,etc).

Note, if this is for any sort of privacy purposes, that most such
"scrambling" methods can to some extent be undone. A warped face can be
unwarped, blurs can be unblurred, etc. If the purpose is to hide
someone's face or similar, fill a circle with some colour instead. Or if
you want to keep similar colours as the rest of the image, use
Resynthesizer to grab colours from the surrounding area.


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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Added Bitcoin donation option

2013-04-15 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Michael Schumacher  writes:

> The fact that we got coins means that we can and have to think about
> ways for transferring the donations to the GIMP account, which is
> managed by the GNOME Fundraising team who are doing a good job at
> that.
>
> The most viable options for that seems to be Coinbase.com, despite my
> mixed feelings about it:
> https://plus.google.com/110300216597663852321/posts/hpT1oVVWu2g. My
> main concern isn't that they aren't trustworthy, but that they may not
> be able to uphold their promises and standards to keep that data safe.
> Hunting lots of bugs in other software just drops your confidence
> somewhat.

I notice WordPress uses BitPay:
https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-direct-deposit 

I have no idea how they compare, but perhaps you could ask Automattic.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Create image from clipboard via command line

2013-03-14 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Piotr Rybałtowski  writes:

[...]

> Kevin, I know about pasting when I have it opened. After taking a
> screenshot I'm running GIMP and pressing ctrl+shift+v. I'd be much
> better though if I could be able to run it as a single command so I
> could make even better shortcut.
>
> Saving clipboard to a file is not for me. I want to have it opened as
> new image.

Well, if you don't mind the file ending up in your /tmp, you could save
the python script as e.g. "save-clipboard-image.py" and make another
script "save-clipboard-image-tmp.sh" that does


#!/bin/sh
cd /tmp
/path/to/save-clipboard-image.py -o


You might want to change "xdg-open" to "gimp" in the script in case it
opens in the wrong program.

Then just make a shortcut to "save-clipboard-image-tmp.sh" from
wherever (remember to chmod +x them).

> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
>  wrote:

[...]

> (Or you can try this python2-script
> http://stackoverflow.com/a/12122028/69663 which takes any image in
> your
> clipboard, run it with the "-o" option to open the file straight
> away.)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Create image from clipboard via command line

2013-03-13 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Piotr Rybałtowski  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'm thinking about some new feature which I'd love to see in GIMP but
> can't add it myself. Maybe there's a way to achieve it. And if it's
> wrong place to post such suggestions let me know, this is my first
> mail here.
>
> To the point. I'd love to be able to create new image from clipboard
> from a command line. There is such function so I guess it wouldn't be
> a problem to add it. Having this one could make a shortcut (e.g. in
> Unity's launcher RMB menu). It's useful when some app (e.g. screenshot
> taking) puts image in clipboard and you want to quickly edit it.
>
> What do you think?

If you've got GIMP running, just press Ctrl+Shift+V (or Edit→Paste from
clipboard) and it'll create a new image from the current clipboard. You
can probably whip up some script-fu to call that from the command-line
if you prefer.

(Or you can try this python2-script
http://stackoverflow.com/a/12122028/69663 which takes any image in your
clipboard, run it with the "-o" option to open the file straight away.)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!

2013-03-09 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Partha Bagchi  writes:

> Snapseed - totally free.

Really? I can't find the link to the source/license …

> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
>  wrote:
>
> Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Ryan LaRose wrote:
> >> You guys should develop a Gimp App for Android phone/tablet
> users as well as
> >> Iphone/Ipad users. Your app would destroy every single other
> app out there.
> >> I can't tell you enough how many of my friends said they wish
> gimp had an
> >> app. Thanks.
> >
> > Ryan, there are many things we should do, but the amount of
> things we
> > realistically can do is a lot smaller :)
> 
> Somewhat related: has anyone found any useful libre graphics/photo
> editing apps for Android at all out there?
> 
> 
> -Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!

2013-03-08 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:

> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Ryan LaRose wrote:
>> You guys should develop a Gimp App for Android phone/tablet users as well as
>> Iphone/Ipad users. Your app would destroy every single other app out there.
>> I can't tell you enough how many of my friends said they wish gimp had an
>> app. Thanks.
>
> Ryan, there are many things we should do, but the amount of things we
> realistically can do is a lot smaller :)

Somewhat related: has anyone found any useful libre graphics/photo
editing apps for Android at all out there?


-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"s.kortenweg"  writes:

> From the start of GIMP 2.8 there are rumors about Save vs. Export.
> It is a change with the past, but that has happened more times by
> changing versions.
> The first version of the GIMP that i started (i believe 1.2) came up
> with a single toolbox and nothing more.
>  And i survived all the changes that came after that.
> To make the changes more visible for the users is it possible to add
> to the various Save options
> in the File Menu that this will happen in XCF format?

As in:

--
| File   |
||
| New image  |
| ...|
||
| Save to XCF|
| Save to XCF as ... |
| ...|

?

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Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Burlen Loring  writes:

> I'm sure the author(s) feels that it's the best thing since sliced
> bread, however, differentiating between save and export in newer gimp
> is a ridiculous waste of time. it's so annoying and in efficient that
> I feel the need to chime in against it and strongly hope  this change
> will be reversed in a future release.

The GIMP developers have stated that they are not reverting the change.
Your options are:

1) learn the new way

2) use this plugin which implements the old way within GIMP:
   http://www.shallowsky.com/software/gimp-save/

3) use the GIMP fork GIMB which reverts the change completely:
   https://github.com/mardy/gimb



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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8.2

2012-11-20 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Robert Bruyns"  writes:

> Dear GIMP fundi’s,
>
> I got the Gimp 2.8.2 [my third evolution] and I must say is awesome.
> Good to see skills and hard work strutted in public without the
> traditional teething troubles manifesting themselves. Well done!
>
> A bit difficult for a non-IT specialist to install ’cos the GIMP
> set-up and the “help” section didn’t want to meld. I rather suspect
> that using the file “run” facility instead of the “save” would’ve
> avoided the issue but I need to backup the original in case of future
> problems elsewhere.
>
> Initially the uninstall app never cleared the system of Gimp 2.6.12
> and so the new installation picked up some bad habits from the get-go
> but I then purged my [Check Disk, Ccleaner, MRT etc.] XPsp3  of all
> traces of the old and re-installed the new.  Then I hadda hunt around
> to enable my “help” and “context help” to link with the help/F1 icons.
> But now all’s well! Thank you werry much!
>
> Just one gripe though! Can we disable or lose the decimal/fraction
> brush slide sizing facility. Whole numbers in this context would be
> perfect. To fiddle with fractions offering a 100th of a step at a time
> is really tedious and, imho, unnecessary. Is there some file somewhere
> where I could gently disable this feature? And how? Tia!

There's an even simpler way to disable it: before clicking and dragging,
move your mouse a little bit up until it changes to an upward-pointing
arrow instead of a left-right-pointing arrow.


-Kevin


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> Q: Are you sure?
>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-04 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Olivier  writes:

> 2012/11/4 Steve Kinney 

[...]

> Running an OS that works for not against the user is a very
> addictive thing.  Token on-topic reference:  The GIMP was the
> first
> major gateway drug that started me down the path to a 100% Free
> Software world.  Ubuntu stopped including the GIMP in its default
> installation package, and that's another strike against
> Canonical...
> sure it's stupidly easy to install, but dang it, GNU/Linux is
> supposed to include the GIMP right out of the box, is all!
> 
> :o)
> 
>
> The only problem, in my opinion, is that Ubuntu still insists on
> fitting on a CD instead of a DVD, for reasons I don't know. 

off-topic, but
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/ubuntu-on-the-mongol-steppe-carving-paths-into-emerging-markets
(last part) gives one very good reason.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Error.

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Sleepingbeautiie  writes:

> All right, so. I've had GIMP ever since the latest version came out,
> and it hasn't been up to this very day that it's given me an error
> when loading, ad it's never happened before. Ever. It's some crud
> that tells me "Runtime/C++ Error" and that it needs to terminate.
> So... what the heck do I do? Am I not going to be able to use GIMP
> anymore? .__.

Are you using Windows? 

And does it say anything more than "Runtime/C++ Error" ?



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Re: [Gimp-user] About great new save export function in Gimp-2.8

2012-09-10 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Simon Budig  writes:

> Ken Warner (kwarner...@verizon.net) wrote:
>> On 9/10/2012 9:32 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
>> >maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> >>Because you're not dealing with reality. This is the problem of
>> >>amateurs who create software professional vocation.
>> >
>> >See? This is what I was referring to.
>>
>> Just because the English doesn't meet your standards doesn't mean the
>> viewpoint is invalid.  And maybe your refusal to see the thought in
>> the message is the root of the discord.
>
> Sorry for being too terse. But I was not referring to the language
> (although I don't understand the "vocation" word there). I was referring
> to the insinuation that we - as the developers - are just amateurs not
> dealing with reality and hence do things the wrong way.
>
> Yes, I do take offense in that.
>
> Bye,
> Simon

I wish it were possible to get a spam filter for vicious ad hominem
attacks, false sense of entitlement, and the flogging of dead horses …
Does the mailing list software at least have some way of "closing"
threads, perhaps with some standard reply? Perhaps they could be
referred to alt.troll.gimp or something.


-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Using a filter from within script-fu

2012-08-21 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Rune K. Svendsen"  writes:

> Hi list
>
> I'm learning how to write script-fu scripts. I've managed to resize an
> image, but I would like to use a filter from within the script-fu
> script, applying it to the image after it's been resized. More
> specifically, I'd like to run the Filters->Generic->Dilate filter on
> the image, before saving it. I've searched on Google for how to do
> this, but I can't find any references to using filters from within a
> script. Can anyone help me on this?

Click Help, then either Plug-in browser or Procedure browser (not sure
why there are two), type "dilate". You'll see the name of the main entry
function, "plug-in-dilate", in bold, followed by the help string, list
of parameters it takes, their types and possible values.

Often it's helpful to look at the source of that function, in case you
only want do part of what it does. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to
be a one-click method to go straight to the source of non-compiled
functions (hint hint, developers). Typing 
"locate dilate|grep -v '/help/'"
into my command line gave me nothing, so perhaps it's written in C
or something.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp definition

2012-07-23 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ofnuts  writes:

[...]

> I'd go for GINP. GINP Is Not Photoshop.

Ahah, make people think it's a new name, while they pronounce it the old
way due to phonological assimilation. Sneaky.


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Re: [Gimp-user] wavelet denoise plugin. principle

2012-06-27 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
odimegwu david  writes:

> can someone refer me to a link that discusses about the concepts and
> principles behind the wavelet denoise plugin at the gimp registry?  I found
> some tutorial but lost as to what it is about. I surely want to understand
> the basic concepts behind the plugin. I think it is a great plugin for
> working with images. Thanks.

Another tutorial, but it helped for me:
http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/12/getting-around-in-gimp-skin-retouching.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] This may be a dumb question :( ... twitch.tv related

2012-06-18 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Verin  writes:

> I was curious how people get the boxes and stuff into their "Info" tab
> on Twtich.tv, instead of it just being plain text. Sorry if this is
> the wrong section or anything. Any help is appreciated!

Not sure I understand, if you mean the text/icons over the docks (like
layers, brush settings and so forth), click the little [<] button in the
upper right corner of the dock, "Tab Style" and "Icon" or "Automatic".

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Re: [Gimp-user] This is the sixth Time REMOVE ME from List

2012-06-01 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Jason Thompson  writes:

> I can't not log into my account it never sends me a email back requesting a 
> change of my
> password so I can log on to stop this flooding of 50 emails a day in my 
> account this is
> the sixth time I been asking.

You don't need a password to unsubscribe, simply enter your email
address at https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list in the
very bottom box, click "Unsubscribe or edit options", then click the
"Unsubscribe" button on the next page. You will however have to click
the confirmation link (check your spam folder).

BTW, you could also set up a filter so it doesn't flood your inbox:
http://help.yahoo.com/tutorials/mmail/mmail/mm_filter1.html


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 + Brushes

2012-05-23 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alex Stegmann  writes:

> Hello, my name is Alex Stegmann, and I've been using Gimp for sometime now. 
> It's a
> fantastic program, but I thought the area where it lacked the most was the 
> brushes. It
> only came with a few basic brushes, and you often had to download extra packs 
> for that
> something extra. This in itself wasn't a huge deal, although if you had brush 
> sets more
> like those of PaintTool SAI or MyPaint, that would be really great. Those 
> program don't
> have as much as Gimp, but they have some really great brushes, which makes 
> them fun to
> draw in.
>
> My bigger concerns is adding your own brushes to Gimp via imported brush 
> packs. While
> you say you integrate all files, the brush manager is lacking. If I wish to 
> add a few
> brush packs to see what they do, the brush list quickly becomes
> clogged. 

Click the "filter" drop-down. If you added a folder of brushes into
~/.gimp-2.8/brushes/fancynewbrushes, then you should have a tag/button
called "fancynewbrushes" that you can click. This filters down the list
of brushes to only those that were in that folder (you can also manually
tag brushes if you want). 

> You can't seem
> to delete brushes without going back into the brushes folder which you first 
> put them
> in, and then delete the files. This also means if you like a few brushes in a 
> pack, but
> the rest of it is useless to you, then you have to have everything, or 
> nothing.

I don't understand. You first explain how you can delete some brushes,
then you say that it's impossible? (There's even a simpler way: just
right click and select the "delete" option.)

I can imagine a situation where deleting wouldn't be possible though: if
you installed the brush pack through a package manager, as the root user
(so it's installed in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes/somename or
something). GIMP can't give you root permissions ;) so in that case,
what you should do is copy it over to your user directory,
~/.gimp-2.8/brushes/somename, uninstall it from the package manager, and
then you can start deleting individual brushes from either GIMP or the
folder.


-Kevin


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>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Gimp

2012-05-16 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Candy"  writes:

> I tried to get into the IRC to ask this question but I kept getting a 404 
> message.  My
> question isis "filling with transparent" the same as "tinting"?  
> (explanation: In
> the image editor that Photobucket used to have I could change the color of 
> something in
> a picture without losing the original shading, etc.  They no longer have that 
> image
> editor so I am looking for an Open Source program that is easy to use and has 
> that
> feature.).

If I understand correctly, you can achieve this by creating a new layer,
filling with a color, and turning down the layer opacity. If you
selected something on the original layer, the same selection is
available when you're filling into the new layer (and the original will
stay unchanged).

You may find
http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/10/getting-around-in-gimp-layer-masks.html
helpful.

-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)

2012-05-11 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Richard Gitschlag  writes:

>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:19:51 -0400
>> From: ptilopt...@gmail.com
>> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
>> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)
>>
>> * Richard Gitschlag  [05-10-12 11:44]:
>> >
>> > (Damn it, why doesn't this mailing list have a proper reply-to address?)
>>
>> It does
>> --
>
> Then the real question is why every time I hit Reply, Hotmail prefills my 
> form with the
> individual user's email instead of the mailing list's, and I have to change 
> it every time
> before hitting Send.  GIMP or otherwise, minor impediments like these are 
> quite annoying.

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html is the long answer. 

TL;DR version: the group reply address is already in the email headers,
your email client should give you a function to use that or the author
reply address at your choice – if it doesn't, that's a bug in the
client. Mailing lists that do change headers are providing bug
compatibility (some people think that's a good thing, I guess).

If Hotmail doesn't have a reply-to-group function as well as
reply-to-author, I guess you could hit reply-to-all? Or get a better
email client ;-)


best regards,
Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8... missing something

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
gms9810  writes:

> Hi, All
> I just downloaded v2.8, installed it (Windows 7 Pro, 3g RAM, dual 1.66g 
> cores, 120 G HD) and as I expected, it didn't work. I got the same results 
> when I tried the various versions of 2.7. The installation seemed to go fine 
> ut when I started it I got message after message about missing dlls, most of 
> which were in the folder already. I went and downloaded the few that were 
> actually missing and tried again with the same results. 

Which DLL's?

Is it a HP machine?

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Judah Kleinveldt"  writes:

> Wow it seems those in disfavour of the new "save-export" function are pretty 
> agro.

Although I don't have a neutral stance on it, I also see it as a
_trivial_ change; and when I reflect a bit, I don't think it deserves
this much discussion. As http://bikeshed.com/ (well worth the read)
beautifully explains, "the amount of noise generated by a change is
inversely proportional to the complexity of the change".


-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-02 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
t;
> You could have done this the LibreOffice way... When you try to save an image 
> loaded
> from a format with information loss, you get a pop-up warning you and giving 
> you the
> choice of whether to proceed or save as XCF (and also giving you the choice 
> to make this
> warning go away in the future and just save like you told it to). This is what
> LibreOffice does, e.g., when you load and then try to save a DOC file.

Oh, no, please don't. Doc's at least retain _most_ of the information,
now if you'd said .rtf you'd be closer to the truth …

> Or you could have made this change at least a little bit less onerous by 
> making the save
> dialog default to XCF but allowing the user to edit the extension to save to 
> another
> format. But no, if you try to do that, it tells you, "Sorry, this dialog only 
> saves in
> XCF format," and you have to cancel out of it and export instead.
>
> In my opinion, this change is a huge, huge step backward in useability.
>
>   Jonathan Kamens

The ui docs linked to in this thread argue quite well for the change,
I'll just describe my main use case: I love being able to both save and
export as I go along. Working on a web site, I definitely want to keep
layer info available, so I need the XCF, but to see how it looks in
Firefox, I need the PNG there too. So as I change something, and I want
to quickly see how it looks in Firefox, I can just ctrl+shift+e (then
click reload in Firefox). And it'll retain the path I last specified, so
I don't have to enter anything. And as I go along, I click ctrl+s to
keep the main XCF up-to-date, again without having to re-enter the path.

With the old method, I would work on an XCF, then I had to save as,
select PNG, ignore warnings, then, _very importantly_, I had to remember
to switch back to XCF before I exited GIMP (or had a crash or power-loss
or whatever), otherwise I'd lose the last steps. If I had GIMP focused
but thought I had Firefox focused, and pressed Ctrl+W to close a tab,
it'd take down the image instead with no warning about unsaved changes,
and all the steps after I switched to "preview mode" would be lost. Pure
danger. A graphical program shouldn't make you have to remember not to
shoot yourself in the foot like that.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Misc RC (noob) problems

2012-04-26 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Madeleine Fisher  writes:

> I just downloaded the new RC, and it works really well, but I have a 
> problem--when I use
> my tablet and it goes off the screen, the pressure settings will suddenly 
> switch off. Is
> that something that I can fix? Or will it work better in future releases? 
> Some with the
> free-move (or whatever)--when I move the view around sometimes I have to 
> minimize the
> whole GIMP to get it to refresh properly.

Hmm, this seems like something for the devs … If you feel like
contributing a bug report, http://www.gimp.org/bugs/ has some info;
there's also the gimp developer list at
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.devel 

> Also, just if anybody has any good advice: sometimes when I hit the hotkeys I 
> hit my
> mousepad, too (on my laptop), and GIMP will sporadically spaz between the 
> "default"
> settings and the one's I've put on my tablet to draw with at the current 
> moment. I
> wouldn't ask for help, but it continues for minutes afterward sometimes. It 
> makes it
> difficult to draw a line and is just kind of annoying. Any thoughts?

If it were me, I would run a program that turns on/off the mousepad with
a global hotkey (so I could press e.g. F12 or something to toggle it).
Depends on your system how easy it is to find such a program though …

-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Review: The Artists Guide to GIMP, 2nd edition

2012-04-23 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Daniel Smith wrote:
>> While we're on this topic, can anyone mention
>> any other best Gimp books they might know of?
>> (Not to detract from the ones mentioned already,
>> but I am already planning on getting them and
>> would like to know any others.) Gotta get up to
>> speed with any advanced techniques I can find.
>> I've often found these books give a great quick
>> method into areas of the programs you might
>> overlook.
>
> There are very few books on GIMP that cover advanced techniques. Sad but true.

If you have a good colour printer I guess you could print out
http://blog.patdavid.net/p/getting-around-in-gimp.html
=P


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[Gimp-user] Review: The Artists Guide to GIMP, 2nd edition

2012-04-16 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Hi, just throught I'd plug a review of a GIMP 2.8 book I did here:
https://diasp.org/posts/979588

-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's startup loading

2012-04-12 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Adir Kol  writes:

> Thanks Kevin BUT -
>
> Unfortunetely this feature is irelevant for me because I'm using the GIMP in 
> command
> line.

Do you mean in batch mode? If so, try (gimp-patterns-refresh). Look it
up in Help→Procedure browser.

I think all of script-fu is available through the Python API too, if
that's what you mean by command line.


> I'll be glad to know if anyone have an answer to my question, thanks...!
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  
> wrote:
>
> Adir Kol  writes:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Anyone knows how the startup works?
> > Does GIMP load the patterns, gradients, palettes, brushes to the memory 
> on the
> startup?
> > or it just looks at it when needed?
> >
> > I'm asking that because GIMP asks me to make refresh/restart every time 
> I add a
> new
> > pattern, otherwise I can't see it.

GIMP asks you stuff on the command line?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's startup loading

2012-04-12 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Adir Kol  writes:

> Hi All,
> Anyone knows how the startup works?
> Does GIMP load the patterns, gradients, palettes, brushes to the memory on 
> the startup?
> or it just looks at it when needed?
>
> I'm asking that because GIMP asks me to make refresh/restart every time I add 
> a new
> pattern, otherwise I can't see it.

Can't you just click the blue Refresh button?

Scripts can be updated by clicking Filters→Script-fu→Update btw.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opening .cdr and .cpt

2012-03-06 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Steve Kinney  writes:

> On 03/05/2012 11:52 AM, promovis wrote:
>> Download Uniconvertor, convert your cdr to svg, edit svg with
>> Gimp. Good luck! 
>
> You might also want to give Inkscape a try - it's a native SVG
> editor.  The best you can do with the GIMP is convert the SVG file
> from vector format to a bitmap format, and presumably there was a
> reason of some sort for creating a vector based file in the first place.

There's also sk1, the program from which UniConvertor spawned:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/sk1-development-restarted 

I haven't tried it myself, but it may be interesting; likely more
suitable for vector graphics than GIMP anyway. Does CMYK.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Switching to Mac, any advice?

2012-03-05 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Daniel Smith  writes:

> Hi all.
> I'm switching from Gimp on Windows to a Mac.
> (It's an older one, a G5 tower with Leopard only,
> but it's nice to be back on a Mac again.)
> Before I just download and install without
> thinking, I thought I might ask anyone for
> advice they might give for the best install for mac,
> or perhaps any packages on mac that are better
> or features not available on Windows, etc?
> Thanks for any ideas.
> Daniel

Last time I used a Mac, the "GIMP on OS X" link from
http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/ seemed like the most user-friendly option
to me. Leopard and newer have X11 included, so it's only the one
download, and http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Photo_editing.html says
Resynthesizer etc. is included, so you get lots of plugins that you'd
have to download and install one by one on Windows[1].

If you want the 2.7 beta, I guess you'll have to compile / use MacPorts.


-Kevin


[1]  Of course, on Linux, it's even easier =P


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Re: [Gimp-user] Installation Problems

2012-03-05 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Debbie Lewis  writes:

> I have installed GIMP version 2.6.12 on two identical machines,
> Windows 764-bit and the program installed but will not open.  There is
> the informationthat came up on the screen.
>
> Problem signature:
>
> Problem Event Name:  APPCRASH
> Application Name:    gimp-2.6.exe
> Application Version: 0.0.0.0
> Application Timestamp:   4f2efd76
> Fault Module Name:  libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll

libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll seems like a clue to me … I don't understand any
of the other stuff here.

> Fault Module Version:   2.24.8.0
> Fault Module Timestamp: 4f2500a4
> Exception Code:c005
> Exception Offset:   0001c00e
> OS Version:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
> Locale ID:   1033
> Additional Information 1:    97bd
> Additional Information 2:    97bd58ed0a3669728b37c1dd576f8751
> Additional Information 3:    4d52
> Additional Information 4:    4d527e55604cfa384fad8b0494da8aa7
>
> I also installed this same program on my machine, Windows 7 64-bit
> also, but itinstalled fine on mine and will run.  My machine is an
> older machine.
>
> Just wondered if there are any ideas of what I could try to get this
> program to work on those two machines.

Could http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/21283 be the
solution? That is, search the computer for files named
"libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll", and rename any such files that are _not_
within the GIMP directory.

hope this helps,
-Kevin

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[Gimp-user] moving floating layers (was: Trying to move layer; only outline will move)

2012-03-03 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Dan ."  writes:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> From my experience, after pasting a new object in order to create a new 
> layer, in the
> layers menu there should be Floating Selection ("pasted Layer") like Burnie 
> wrote. For
> me, I right-click the "pasted layer" and select "New Layer", and the pasted 
> object shows
> up as a new layer. From there, I make sure I deselect everything (SELECT > 
> NONE), and
> then use the move tool (making sure the cursor is over the pasted object) to 
> click on
> the object in your new layer in order to move it. Hope that is of some help.

You can move it first too though (then press ctrl+shift+N to turn it
into a regular layer). I find that quicker, but whatever floats your
boat. Layer. Whatever.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to move layer; only outline will move

2012-03-03 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Burnie West  writes:

> On 03/02/2012 07:08 AM, Keith Purtell wrote:
>> I've read the official tutorial several times and yet the directions
>> aren't working for me. I pasted in a layer which shows up fine in
>> the layers box. The active layer is the one I pasted in. The Move
>> tool is set to "Move the active layer." I've tried using the Move
>> tool by both dragging and clicking and dragging. In either case, the
>> new layer doesn't move, only the outline (marching ants). I've got a
>> huge project to complete today and can't spend an hour just trying
>> to get GIMP to move a layer. Tips?
>> Keith
> The newly pasted layer must be anchored before it can be moved. Your
> layers menu likely shows the words Floating Selection ("pasted Layer")
> If so, then the layer must be be anchored first. Under the layer menu,
> select "Anchor Layer"

Not on my GIMP … I move around floating layers all the time. I'm pretty
sure «Select → None» is the solution.

-k

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Re: [Gimp-user] Installing

2012-02-29 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Normand  writes:

> I wish it would be that simple.  When trying to start (in Linux) Gimp
> " ...in console mode, type LANGUAGE=fr gimp ",

LANG=fr, not LANGUAGE

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7, - 2 simple questions

2012-02-07 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Kekko  writes:

> Hi everybody,
> just two simple questions about GIMP 2.7.4 that I installed on Linux Ubuntu 
> 11.10.
> 1. In previous versions of GIMP the shortcut ctrl+E allowed to put the image 
> entirely in the frame while now ctrl+E is the command for exporting the 
> image: do you know how to have a simple shortcut to replicate what ctrl+E did 
> in 2.6 version?

ctrl+J / ctrl+shift-J, according to 
http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html

> 2. Why the command "Save as" don't allow to save in jpg? Now we are forced to 
> use Export in order to save an image in jpg format.

Yes, we are :) If you only work in JPG, just think of Export as saving,
you can ignore the "save" menu item.

Some good reasons for splitting it in two items:

I at least prefer having both the full, untainted XCF available at all
times, and once in a while I'll export to JPG/PNG, this used to require
a lot of maintenance before, now I can just to ctrl+s or ctrl+e
depending on whether I want to save or export.

Also, when saving as JPG etc. in 2.6, you would get a warning about how
layer information is lost. This you don't get now, saving always
preserves all information, it is assumed that when you export, you're
aware that information is lost. It's a lot more honest, in my opinion.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Using Gimp commercially- help needed

2012-02-07 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:

> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Richard Allport  wrote:
>> Hi all, does anyone know if there is a clearance procedure someone would
>> have to go through in order to use Gimp in a commercial, sale –based product
>> teaching creativity or other visual based subjects? Or someone I could email
>> or call directly failing that?
>
> You are encouraged to make money using GIMP.
>
> Alexandre Prokoudine
> http://libregraphicsworld.org

… but in case you don't want to take legal advice from random strangers,
gimp.org itself is quite clear on this:

http://www.gimp.org/about/selling.html 

See also the license itself – which most likely zoomed past your eyes as
you installed GIMP – for the legalese: http://www.gimp.org/about/COPYING
, e.g. the second paragraph of the Preamble.

Hope this helps, good luck on your product :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

2012-02-05 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
"Erik P. Olsen"  writes:

[...]

>
> Thanks for this detailed description. Yes, I've rotated the layer
> only, so now at least I know how to rotate correctly. But please
> enlighten me why would you want to rotate a layer and not the entire
> image?

Because sometimes you have several layers (that's sort of the point of
layers, otherwise the concept of layers would be useless). Just to give
a simple example: you open an image of a mountain landscape as a
background layer, then add an image of a plane as another layer on top
of that. But the plane is flying from left to right, which is boring, so
you rotate it (the layer) so it's flying straight up. If you had rotated
the entire image, the mountains would be sideways.


-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Debugging GIMP

2012-02-02 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
mastan  writes:

> Hi,
>
> i dont know whether it is right place ask this question or notstill i am 
> need of help
>
> when i a running gimp from the terminal using ./gimp-2.7.4 in ubuntu 
> 10.04
> it is giving segementation fault .but i am able to use the GIMP(gui) 
> and do all the operations..

So … it's working? There's no problem?

> i want to debug gimp
> when i am trying to do that its getting terminated showing that 
> there is segmenatation fault

Post the terminal output.


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Re: [Gimp-user] ICC Profiles: UFRaw + GIMP => 2x correction?

2012-02-01 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Gary Aitken  writes:

> On 2/1/2012 12:08 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>
>> When I apply an Output Profile in UFRaw and send to GIMP, GIMP asks me
>> whether to keep the embedded profile or convert to sRGB, so I do know
>> that it's noticing a profile there. You can set GIMP to ask on the
>> bottom drop-down of that menu.
>
> I don't see any dialog at all.  The image just appears in the gimp
> image window.
>
>> Also, just to check "if it's plugged in", if you run ImageMagick's
>> "identify -verbose myfile.tif", does it have a section like
>>
>>   Profile-icc: 3004 bytes
>> Description: Pink
>> Manufacturer: IEC http://www.iec.ch
>> Model: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
>> Copyright: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company Modified using 
>> Adobe Gamma
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Or, if you click Image→Image Properties (alternatively:
>> Image→Mode→Set/Convert Colour Profile), does it say that the current one
>> is sRGB built-in, or that it is YourProfileName?
>
> It says the profile is "sRGB built-in, Default RGB working space"
> but it displays with the profile applied in ufraw.

The Display profile in UFRaw is not embedded, the output profile (middle
of the three) is. No matter what output profile you select, the preview
in UFRaw shouldn't change, if I understand things correctly.

> Edit/Preferences/Color Management shows no profile for RGB.
>
>>> Now set the RGB Profile to the one you used in ufraw when generating
>>> the .tif image.
>>>You will see the image transformed again.
>>>In effect, the profile is being applied twice.
>>
>> I don't see this. What I do see is that no matter what crazy embedded
>> Output Profile I use in UFRaw (and I select "keep embedded" in GIMP),
>> changing the RGB Profile in that part of GIMP doesn't change what the
>> image looks like, and they all look the same no matter what profile they
>> have (or even if they don't have a profile).
>>
>> However, if I open an image without an embedded profile, clicking
>> Image→Image Properties tells me that the profile is "sRGB built-in", and
>> if I have RGB Profile set to something weird in Preferences then, the
>> image gets weird colours.
>>
>> Tested using UFRaw version 0.18, GIMP version 2.7.4, on Arch Linux.
>>
>>> BTW, I'm using gimp 2.7.5 (2.8 preview); I don't know if this is
>>> specific to 2.7.5 or not.  It may also be that these are temporary
>>> issues with the transition to full color management and 16bit colors.
>>> But if they are issues not already on the gimp development plate, they
>>> should probably be raised so they are at least well-known.
>>
>> Ah. Perhaps the difference is to do with Windows?
>
> dangit.
> Could be windoze related;
> or something that creeped in between 2.7.4 and 2.7.5.
> Anyone running 2.7.5 on any os who can confirm 2.7.5 behavior one way
> or the other?
>
> Ugh.  Global .gimprc says
>   #(color-profile-policy ask)
> my .gimprc says
>  (color-profile-policy convert)
> which I don't believe I ever set, but I could be lying.
>
> I now see, at bottom of preferences/color management, option to ask,
> keep, or discard (convert)
>
> However...
> I changed it to "keep",
> exited,
> my .gimprc now says keep
> The image comes across with the profile, but image/properties still
> says sRGB default.
> Change it to ask and the behavior is the same -- I still don't get a
> dialog, and it still says the profile is the default despite the
> original one being applied.

Can you use a third program to ensure that the colour profile is
actually embedded and not just destructively applied? I guess
ImageMagick is not as simple to use on Windows, though you could try
just uploading it to http://regex.info/exif.cgi which runs ImageMagick
etc. for you, if you feel alright uploading it to random websites …




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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7.x - How do I move the main tool palette? (single window mode)

2012-02-01 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
James  writes:

> I love single window mode in the new 2.7 series.  I currently have my
> preferences such that the main tool palette is locked to the
> upper-left side of the single window.
>
> However, I can't move it.  I also can't figure out how to replicate
> this on a new install (since by default the tool palette is on the
> upper-right and can't be moved).
>
> I'm guessing I missed a setting/preference somewhere.  How do I move
> the main tool palette?  Thanks!

This works for me: Turn off single-window mode, rearrange, turn on
again.

But maybe there's a method with even fewer steps?


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Re: [Gimp-user] ICC Profiles: UFRaw + GIMP => 2x correction?

2012-01-31 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Gary Aitken  writes:

> Humor me, and try the following:
>
> Scenario 1:
>
> Load a raw image into ufraw with some feature for which you can tell a
> difference when a profile is applied.
>
> Apply the profile in ufraw.
> Save the file as .tif
>
> Start gimp.
> Go to Edit/Preferences/ColorManagement
>   Make sure RGB Profile is set to "None"
> Load the .tif image.
> It should look as the corrected image, i.e. profile applied.
> Go to Edit/Preferences/ColorManagement
>   Check RGB Profile
> It still says "None"
> ok so far
>   Presumably the profile used is the one embedded in the .tif image.
>   But there is no way of knowing what that profile is or whether it
> has been applied that I can figure out.

When I apply an Output Profile in UFRaw and send to GIMP, GIMP asks me
whether to keep the embedded profile or convert to sRGB, so I do know
that it's noticing a profile there. You can set GIMP to ask on the
bottom drop-down of that menu.

Also, just to check "if it's plugged in", if you run ImageMagick's
"identify -verbose myfile.tif", does it have a section like

 Profile-icc: 3004 bytes
   Description: Pink
   Manufacturer: IEC http://www.iec.ch
   Model: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB
   Copyright: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company Modified using 
Adobe Gamma

?

Or, if you click Image→Image Properties (alternatively:
Image→Mode→Set/Convert Colour Profile), does it say that the current one
is sRGB built-in, or that it is YourProfileName?

> Now set the RGB Profile to the one you used in ufraw when generating
> the .tif image.
>   You will see the image transformed again.
>   In effect, the profile is being applied twice.

I don't see this. What I do see is that no matter what crazy embedded
Output Profile I use in UFRaw (and I select "keep embedded" in GIMP),
changing the RGB Profile in that part of GIMP doesn't change what the
image looks like, and they all look the same no matter what profile they
have (or even if they don't have a profile).

However, if I open an image without an embedded profile, clicking
Image→Image Properties tells me that the profile is "sRGB built-in", and
if I have RGB Profile set to something weird in Preferences then, the
image gets weird colours.

Tested using UFRaw version 0.18, GIMP version 2.7.4, on Arch Linux.

> BTW, I'm using gimp 2.7.5 (2.8 preview); I don't know if this is
> specific to 2.7.5 or not.  It may also be that these are temporary
> issues with the transition to full color management and 16bit colors.
> But if they are issues not already on the gimp development plate, they
> should probably be raised so they are at least well-known.

Ah. Perhaps the difference is to do with Windows?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp newbie trying to get a job done.

2012-01-26 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Brent Shifley  writes:

> THANK YOU!
>
> I have been burning brain cells on this for a while.  I do have one final 
> question.  Like in the case where there was green in all sorts of places, how 
> could I go and change all the green areas to any color that I want, in only a 
> couple of clicks?

Colours → Colourise, works on the current selection or all if none is selected.
http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-tool-colorize.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] Misleading reply to a FAQ for installing a GIMP2.6 Windows 7-32 executable

2012-01-18 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Jernej Simončič  writes:

> On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:32:36 +0100, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>
>> – well, the assumption is wrong. LoginUI.exe is in fact a broken
>> application, part of HP's "personalisation", and it places a broken
>> version of intl.dll in the Windows system directory. This overrides the
>> file that GIMP expects to be there.
>
> Actually, GIMP expects intl.dll to be in it's installation directory.
> However GIMP's plug-ins are separate executables which have to be placed in
> another directory, but due to the way Windows loads DLLs, they try to load
> intl.dll from the System32 directory before trying the installation
> directory.

Does that mean you could circumvent it copying GIMP's intl.dll into any
subdirectory containing a plug-in?

(Alternatively, find ut where loginui.exe presides, and move the broken
intl.dll from system32 into that directory.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Misleading reply to a FAQ for installing a GIMP2.6 Windows 7-32 executable

2012-01-18 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Evan Neumann  writes:

> Let the kids finger paint over the cracked walls. 
>
> As far as Gimp. I don't know about the other issues, but rename intl dll 
> intl-old.dll
>
> Then re-install Gimp.
>
> There is no feasible way to hold someone's hand through troubleshooting Gimp 
> though. Because it is open source there are morose bugs that a user must 
> muddle through when things go wrong.

Perhaps that generalisation has merit, perhaps not, but in this case the
fault lies with HP. I note that 
Renatus  writes:
> However intl.dll in folder Windows\System32 was hardly placed there by some 
> broken
> application. It is used by LoginUI.exe, the user interface for the logon 
> screen!

– well, the assumption is wrong. LoginUI.exe is in fact a broken
application, part of HP's "personalisation", and it places a broken
version of intl.dll in the Windows system directory. This overrides the
file that GIMP expects to be there.  

If anything, the problem is that GIMP expects the Windows install not to
be screwed up by HP. If you own an HP computer, it might help to
complain to them.

Anyway, if you use PortableGIMP, this comment seems to give a solution:
http://portableapps.com/node/1598#comment-11104

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Re: [Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection

2012-01-17 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
peter kostov  writes:

> On 01/16/2012 04:05 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>> Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a
>>> complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of
>>> the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly,
>>> GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does
>>> anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off?
>>>
>>> (I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them
>>> off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.)
>>
>> Is there a way to make rulers be off by default when I start Gimp? I
>> know it's just a matter of clicking ctrl+shift+r, but that's easy to say
>> when you've just lost a huge, painstakingly made selection …
>>
>
> In 2.6 the setting is in Preferences -> Appearance -> show rulers

Doh! How'd I miss that … thanks :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection

2012-01-16 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a
> complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of
> the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly,
> GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does
> anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? 
>
> (I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them
> off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.)

Is there a way to make rulers be off by default when I start Gimp? I
know it's just a matter of clicking ctrl+shift+r, but that's easy to say
when you've just lost a huge, painstakingly made selection …

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Re: [Gimp-user] Ruler units

2012-01-16 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Robert Arens  writes:

> I'm a first time GIMP user. I'm a long-time Adobe PhotoShop user.
> What is the default ruler units. How can I change the ruler units and
> divisions to whatever I want?

Pretty sure the default is pixels, you can see and change the unit being
used in the bottom left of an image (left of the zoom level, it should
say px and be a drop-down menu).

Add units under Edit→Units:
http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/plug-in-unit-editor.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] It's possible to duplicate and move a guide (guide line) with Gimp 2.7 ?

2012-01-05 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Stephane Klein  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I wonder if in Gimp I can duplicate and move (shift forward) a guide
> (guide line) ?
>
> Example, I put a horizontal guide on my view.
> Now I would like to append another horizontal guide 30px below the
> previous guide.
>
> I didn't found this feature in Gimp 2.7.4
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Regards,
> Stephane

You may find this useful:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/advanced-ways-to-create-guides-in-gimp


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Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit

2011-12-21 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:

> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:
>
>>>> photographer moving from prosumer to professional (hopefully), I am
>>>> wondering about the quality differences between gimp and photoshop,
>>>> especially in the bit rate area.
>>>
>>> Photoshop wins right now
>>
>> But Darktable (http://darktable.sf.net/) runs on Mac, right?
>
> 1. Not the up to date version.
> 2. You don't get local editing.
>
>> If you're producing for screen/web at least, 8 bit vs 16 bit doesn't
>> matter for a static image in itself
>
> Oh, it does matter :) It's not about viewing, it's about rounding errors.

… which happen when you're editing. By "static image" I meant when
you're just viewing ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit

2011-12-21 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Alexandre Prokoudine  writes:

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Kevin Horkan wrote:
>> I've tried some research on this subject but have come up with little
>> definitive information.  I'm new to gimp, have used photoshop some,
>> and am new to the iMac and OSx operating system.  As a
>> photographer moving from prosumer to professional (hopefully), I am
>> wondering about the quality differences between gimp and photoshop,
>> especially in the bit rate area.
>
> Photoshop wins right now

But Darktable (http://darktable.sf.net/) runs on Mac, right? I highly
recommend using Darktable for RAW editing (especially things that have
to do with color/exposure changes), then opening in GIMP for
transformations and touch-up. 

I'm no expert, but the way I understand it:

If you're producing for screen/web at least, 8 bit vs 16 bit doesn't
matter for a static image in itself, since what you see on the screen is
no more than 8 bit anyway. Where it matters is in the editing process,
since certain operations (e.g. color curve changes) can lead to minor
"rounding errors". 16 bits means you have more numbers of each color,
similar to having more decimal places. E.g. if you don't know how to
deal with decimal points, and you do one operation that divides by 3 and
then times 2,

10 / 3 = 3.333… ≃ 3,
3 * 2 = 6

while if you keep one decimal until you're done calculating,

10 / 3 = 3.333… ≃ 3.3,
3.3 * 2 = 6.6,
(and now we're done calculating, round off the last digit:)
6.6 ≃ 7

And that kind of rounding can add up.

The picture in
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photoshop-discussion/8-bit-or-16-bit/
gives an example of an image edited once in 8 bit and once in 16 bit
which was then converted to 8 bit.


HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 Release Date

2011-12-02 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Kasim Ahmic  writes:

> OK well I finally installed it and I really like it! Although it was laggy 
> beyond
> belief. That might be because it was running off of the USB stick. Does 
> anyone know if
> the packages on the Partha website will be able to run side by side with GIMP 
> 2.6.11?

If it truly is a "PortableApp", you should be able to just drag the
folder from your stick to e.g. your desktop or something. The gimp
executable should be in the "bin" subfolder.

On a related note, I see there's a GIMP 2.7.3 at the original
PortableApps.com site:
http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable

Anyone know the difference between the versions?


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 Release Date

2011-12-01 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Kasim Ahmic  writes:

> @ Archie Yup ^_^
>
> @ Alexandre Haha my bad. I'm running Windows XP Professional 32-bit

Did you try the builds from http://partha.com/ ? Haven't run Windows in
a while, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. There's even a portable
version that you can put on a USB stick, won't touch your harddrive at
all.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Crash

2011-12-01 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Rob Antonishen  writes:

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  
> wrote:
>
> Bob Long writes:
>
> > Stefan Maerz wrote,
> >
> > [..]
> >
> >> It is possible to write a python-fu versioning system, right? I've yet
> >> to do anything with python-fu so I'm not sure.
> >>
> >> -Stefan
> >
> > I've never used it, but look at:
> > http://registry.gimp.org/node/14246
> >
> > "It will save a backup copy of your active image as
> > [imagename]--MM-DD-HH-MM.xcfgz in the same directory as your
> > active image."
>
> Just tried it, it works great :)
>
> Note: if you do two backups within one minute, only the last one will be
> saved. That's not really a bug though ;)
>
> Would you like it to not overwrite?  I can change it fairly easily, by 
> extending the
> naming convention to add seconds :)

For me it's sufficient, but perhaps others make more frequent backups?
I just noticed because I was purposely testing for it.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Crash

2011-11-30 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Bob Long  writes:

> Stefan Maerz wrote,
>
> [..]
>
>> It is possible to write a python-fu versioning system, right? I've yet
>> to do anything with python-fu so I'm not sure.
>>
>> -Stefan
>
> I've never used it, but look at:
> http://registry.gimp.org/node/14246
>
> "It will save a backup copy of your active image as
> [imagename]--MM-DD-HH-MM.xcfgz in the same directory as your
> active image."

Just tried it, it works great :) 

Note: if you do two backups within one minute, only the last one will be
saved. That's not really a bug though ;)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Crash

2011-11-29 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Destiny Bottino  writes:

> Hello,
> I was recently working on a big project of mine using GIMP. I had spent 5 
> hours straight
> working on it, saving it every 5 minutes, and then GIMP crashed and lost 
> everything but
> a few layers. This was not a saving issue because the layers that stayed were 
> made at
> completely different times. I lost pretty much all my work and I am furious. 
> I don't
> have time to do it all over again. I'm pretty sure there is no way of 
> bringing it back.
> GIMP is a wonderful drawing program and I use it all the time, but this was 
> just too
> overboard for me. It crashes almost everytime I use it but all those other 
> times,
> everything was saved alright and everything was fine. This time one of my 
> best drawings
> was lost and there is no way of bringing it back (trust me, I've tried 
> everything). I am
> letting you know because I don't want this to happen to anyone else and (even 
> though I
> am certain nothing can fix it) is there anyway to bring my drawing back? I 
> put my best
> work into it and it makes me furious that its gone. Please, if anyone knows 
> how to bring
> it back, please help me. This drawing meant a lot to me.

You might want to upload the xcf somewhere if you want people to help
with trying to get it back.

Howver, being able to keep a few layers (as opposed to completely losing
the whole file) does sound very odd (your harddrive isn't making strange
ticking noises, is it?).

In any case, if you're getting a lot of crashes, do ensure you're
running the newest version (click Help→About, should say 2.6.11). You
might also want to invest in some more RAM (I've got 3GB, haven't had a
GIMP crash in over a year).



best regards,
-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection

2011-11-27 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
rich  writes:

>>Hi,
>
>>I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a
>>complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of
>>the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly,
>>GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does
>>anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? 
>
>>(I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them
>>off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.)
>
> Using Gimp 2.6.11 and PCLOS
>
> What happens here.
>
> This only happens if the image completely fills the window and with the 
> scissors or paths tools, the free select is not affected. A solution might be 
> to increase the size of the window so that there is a border. This does mean 
> that high zoom levels are not available.

I know, not really a solution when selecting hair at the top of a
~7000x5000px image …

> Next strange effect. The path tool is ok, go into the border and the 
> generated selection follows the edge of the image. The scissors tool, going 
> completely into the border and the selection snaps to 9 pix into the image. 
> Keeping the tool exactly on the border even at high zoom does work.

That really does sound like a bug, does it happen in 2.7.3?

> I would say, maybe, if you are using high zoom so no border available + shaky 
> hand, then steer clear of the ruler and finish off with quick mask.

For now, turning off and on the ruler is my "solution", but it seems
like something close to a UI bug.


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[Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection

2011-11-26 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Hi,

I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a
complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of
the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly,
GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does
anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? 

(I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them
off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Poor install and uninstall

2011-11-19 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Mario Valle  writes:

> Like Berlusconi's claims: a lot of words without substance or proof.
> Which misplaced folder?
> Which "numerous files"?
> BTW, the files under .gimp-2.6 are here and remain here for a very
> good reason.

To make that more clear: The .gimp-2.6 folder keeps per-user settings.
When you uninstall the program, you only uninstall the program files,
not your personal settings folder, which might include brushes,
patterns, scripts, etc. It would be _very_ bad form to remove this when
uninstalling GIMP.

Would you prefer that it "uninstalled" the images you created in GIMP
as well?


> On 19-Nov-11 02:43, Mark Potts wrote:
>> I was very unimpressed by this software package. I needed some image
>> editing capabilities under Windows and this seemed like a good choice.
>> However when I installed the package it spewed files into various
>> misplaced folders. I subsequently uninstalled only to find that
>> despite claiming success at this it left numerous files on my system.
>> Even though it is free sofctware there is still no excuse for this
>> kind of sloppy coding.
>>
>> Mark


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