Re: [Gimp-user] Basic Color Management
"Mike Brennan" čálii: > GIMP 2.8.14 Windows 7 64 > > In Preferences -> Color Management I've selected "Mode of operation" = > "Color managed display" > > There's a checkbox: "Try to use the system monitor profile" that I'm > unclear about. > > I've calibrated/profiled my display with ColorMunki hardware. My > understanding (wrong?) is that ColorMunki installed an appropriate > profile for my display on the system, and that all output from ANY > application to the display goes through an OS driver that uses that > profile. If that is so, my assumption is that GIMP will "use" the > correct display profile implicitly, without needing to be told to do so. > > I do not understand whether checking "Try to use the system monitor > profile" is unnecessary, redundant, or even harmful. When you profile your display you get a two-part result: - a vcgt/LUT part that does white point correction, applied system-wide on login (it's often noticable when this is applied, e.g. with slightly colder or warmer colours all-round) - a gamma/hue/saturation part that has to be applied by individual colour-managed programs On Linux, if you have the right setup, programs can query the system for what file contains the gamma/hue/saturation part – that's the part that's applied by the "Try to use the system monitor profile" checkbox. So this should work in e.g. GNOME or KDE if you've selected your profile in your system colour management settings, but in desktops like XFCE you have to run a separate program, or select the profile manually from GIMP settings. Caveat: I have no formal training in this, please read what the experts say instead: https://encrypted.pcode.nl/blog/2013/11/24/display-color-profiling-on-linux/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.9.2 released
Michael Natterer čálii: > Hi, > > We originally wanted to get this done on GIMP's 20th > birthday last week, but... > > Anyway, here is the first development release in the > GIMP 2.9.x series leading to GIMP 2.10. [...] > Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.8.0 to GIMP 2.9.2 > = That changelog was quite impressive! Congratulations on the release :-) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?
Mukund Sivaraman writes: > Many distros ship GIMP, even slightly patched versions for bugfixes or > better integration into their environments. This improves the experience > for users. Formally registering a GIMP trademark may not be seen in a > good light by distributions, even if we readily wish to see them use the > name. See Firefox vs. Iceweasel for example. The Firefox *logo* did not meet Debian Free Software Guidelines. Since Debian didn't want to include non-free artwork, and Firefox's trademark policy is that you need to include the logo to call it Firefox, it was rebranded for Debian. If Wilber were a non-free artwork, Debian would not include it regardless of trademarks, but I see Wilber at https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gimp so I'm pretty sure the logo must be Debian-proof :) And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GIMP_Icon.svg says public domain. > Even though GIMP is an established project, we generally don't want to > spend time as contributors to fight a legal battle. There are even > questions of whether we *should*, i.e., whether an established free > software project has to register trademarks and involve lawyers to > protect it from being misused this way. Is trademarking completely out of the question? I see not only Firefox, but ImageMagick, Inkscape, GNOME, GNU and Linux in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trademarked_open-source_software – Inkscape being of similar "size" to GIMP, does anyone know how much work it cost them to register their trademark, and how much it costs them to keep it? Reading through https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html#x1-6k5 it doesn't look too bad in terms of money. (The whole section on trademarks there is worth reading.) Also, it seems you may in fact call it GIMP™ already, since you have certain "unregistered rights" to the trademark just because GIMP has been used by this project as a trademark in practice. (But "®" requires registering.) If you have a trademark, but never object to anyone using it in commercial/confusing settings, it might get lost. But you can avoid having to explicitly say yes to every distro and similar "good usage" by having a simple license like GNOME does: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/FoundationBoard/Resources/LicensingGuidelines See also https://www.gnome.org/logo-and-trademarks/ Then there's the nasty part, which is actually going after abuses. SFLC says: > If you disapprove of someone’s unlicensed use which infringes upon your > exclusive rights, you should send a polite email to the infringer > notifying them of your claim to the mark, and that their use is > unacceptable. You might suggest a licensing arrangement, contingent on > some changes in their usage of the mark. If you believe such an > arrangement is impossible, ask the violator to fix the problem. Be > polite but firm. It is often the case that license violations are > inadvertent and easily fixed. Offer to help the violator take whatever > steps are needed to achieve compliance, and avoid threats of publicity > and lawsuits for as long as possible. Make sure the violator understands > that your primary concern is the project’s reputation, not a large > financial settlement. Once you convince them of that point, they are > likely to respond more positively even if they were initially > unresponsive. I'm pretty sure people are used to doing this kind of "polite-but-firm" emailing wrt. GPL violations anyway, except that with a registered trademark you have some weight behind you to do it with malware distributors such as SourceForge as well. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Idea for a «colour-key» filter
Arran writes: > Hello > > > I have a request: > > Many of the new compact cameras have an interesting gadget included: A colour > key filter. You choose one of six or so predefined colours and the result is > then a black and white picture except everything in this colour. However, the > colour is very narrowly defined. If you choose green, there is a medium green, > much lighter or darker greens stay black/white. Furthermore everything in the > choosen colour are coloured. Did you try the menu item Colours→Colourize? [...] > Also it should be possible to > narrow the colour to just a certain part of the picture. Example: a housefront > with 10 shutters, all in green. I want just one of these shutters keeping its > green, all others have, like the rest of all colours, to be black and white. Select the window that you want to have colour, invert the selection, click Colours→Desaturate. > Is there a possiblility to achieve this with present tools or is there > interest > from sombody to develop such a filter or a plug-in and include it into Gimp? Pretty sure it's all built-in already ;-) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgp273SAFO3Ub.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Elaborating Export functionality
Øyvind Kolås writes: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Andrew_Bridget > wrote: >> This is such a common task, there may be cause to have a Resize >> option bundled with the Export command. Having to always perform >> them as two separate steps is an annoyance, but the possibility of >> accidentally saving the wrong resolution back to the XCF file is a >> danger. >> >> A question that asked late last year as I had a need to resize and >> keep working on original. That's when I found the save for web had >> been reinstated as 2.6. > > Part of the motivation for the save/export distinction in the first > place is later being able to introduce such improvements to export > workflows (as well as other neat things; like being able to choose > between export presets, multiple named regions - and more). Without a > clear conceptual internal seperation - such future improvements will > be much harder. I've been wanting a "scaled export" function myself … In the meanwhile, http://shallowsky.com/blog/gimp/gimp-export-scaled.html works well. It doesn't remember the last scale you used second time around, but it does remember the format so you don't have to change xcf→jpg each time. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpybqTFPt8JG.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Free plugins / filters?
Jehan Pagès writes: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM, saraveza408 wrote: >> Im new at Gimp & Im wondering if there are any filters, plugins or extras I >> can >> download free? If so how do I install them? Please & Thank you! > > You have the GIMP registry: http://registry.gimp.org/ > > Then you may have some particular filters, more famous than others > with their own website. For instance the G'MIC filters collection are > getting quite a lot of publicity lately: > http://gmic.sourceforge.net/gimp.shtml > > You may have to search more, but yes there are quite a bit of > resources for GIMP. :-) Make sure you get Resynthesizer (search for "gimp resynthesizer" on youtube to see why). Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux or something else? http://registry.gimp.org/node/25219 is the main page for resynthesizer. https://github.com/bootchk/resynthesizer is the source, but if you don't know how to compile, there are pre-compiled versions for most systems. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpob9rLBJXfB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Record Actions
steveleach writes: > Good Day - I recently found GIMP and think it is amazing. I've been a > PhotoShop > user for years, and actually prefer GIMP. The one thing I can't seem to > figure > out is holding me back from using GIMP exclusively, and that is the Record > Action feature. I have to manipulate about 100 pictures per day - simply > resize > a picture to 6x4" @ 300 dpi, save it, resize again at 100 dpi, put a 10 pixel; > black border around it and save it to another directory. I can do this to a > hundered picitures in about a minute with PhotoShop, but it takes quite a > while > with GIMP. I am no techie ... any suggestions? Unfortunately there is no _general_ record action feature. But for actions such as this, there is a nice plugin that works just fine. You can get the plugin BIMP here: http://www.alessandrofrancesconi.it/projects/bimp/ The first part is very easy with BIMP. The second part is also fairly easy, though a little hacky. BIMP shows up in the File menu. From there, add an action to resize to 6x4" 300dpi, add images and do the export. First step done. Now create a 6x4" 100dpi PNG image with a transparent background and a 10px border. Add the same images to BIMP, add an action to resize to 6x4" 100dpi, and another action to add a watermark. Place the watermark in the center, and select your PNG. This seems to work from my quick testing, though I guess it would be better if BIMP itself had an "add border" feature. (In the Future, GIMP itself may support script recording and playback: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Roadmap ) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpJdYwF3GHfj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Adware/malware in Gimp Windows distribution?
Ean Schuessler writes: > Hi, > > > My girlfriend downloaded the GIMP windows build referenced off the > GIMP.org website and it seems to have a Malware/Adware package called > "Sweetpacks" bundled with it. I realize that the Windows version of > GIMP is linked with a "hey, this isn't us" kind of disclaimer but the > fact that GIMP.org links to it gives the sense that its contents are > trustworthy or, at least, not hostile. If there is really no > validation of that distribution and it contains these kinds of > softwares then it may not be such a good idea to have GIMP.org linking > to it. I guess you're referring to this paragraph from gimp.org/downloads: GIMP for Windows The GIMP team doesn't officially provide any Windows installers. You can, however, install GIMP easily using the Windows installers by Jernej Simončič. Download GIMP 2.8.6 – Installer for Windows XP SP3 or later which _should_ link to http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ ? That page says gimp-2.8.6-setup.exe should have an md5sum of c0e253c5c4124c8b881ca44828839f5e (and I get that too when I download the exe). I don't have a windows to test with, maybe someone else can confirm that md5sum on this list, or maybe you could check if your download has a different md5sum? (Could it be that someone has registered some similar-looking typo to gimp.org and is serving malware? Or that some already-installed malware is redirecting downloads?) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgp7_BC1a_eDT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Crowdfunding Proposal for Symmetry/Mirror Painting in GIMP
Jehan Pagès writes: [...] > The OpenFunding people told me that your account is well activated, so > there should be no problem. > They think that maybe you have deactivated cookies. > > If that's not else, you may write the wrong password. You should be > able to reset it there: > http://funding.openinitiative.com/user/resetpassword My browser auto-remembered email+password when I created my account, but openinitiative seems to only accept username+password to log in (and From what I can tell didn't inform that there was a username/password failure, maybe they should allow both versions or inform that they don't). -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgphSQaCxxXh1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Crowdfunding Proposal for Symmetry/Mirror Painting in GIMP
Jehan Pagès writes: [...] > And if you like it, please fund me and spread the word: > http://funding.openinitiative.com/funding/1578/ That page won't let me log in after registering + verifying (no error message, I just get redirected back to the login page). Do you have a BTC address or flattr account at least? -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer http://turl.ca/interleave_your_email pgpO7m9O2LGFM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about bump map location
Judy Wilson writes: [...] > My question: I would like to put a "watermark" of my logo on images, > and I can do so with the Map, Bump Map Filter. However, the location > of the bump map is a problem. At 0 on the X and Y Offset sliders, it > goes into the upper left hand corner. OK. The problem is the sliders > only move to -1000, and my images are often larger than that, and I > want to put the bump map into the lower right hand corner, and the > sliders will not allow that. Typing in the numbers doesn't work, and > moving the bump map in the preview with the middle mouse button > doesn't work. Of course if I make the images smaller I can get it into > the right hand lower corner, but I want to use the larger image. Any > solution for this, or do I have to just live with this ... defect(?) > for now. Thank you! I added https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707354 (I can't imagine such an arbitrary maximum is intentional?) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpLaqExBWUOG.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup
physoc writes: >>physoc (for...@gimpusers.com) wrote: >>Uh, where do you see that? Certainly not on www.gimp.org, or? >> >>Sounds like some dubious download site, because we gimp developers >>certainly can think of scenarios where paying for your photo editing >>software makes a lot of sense. >> >>Bye, >>Simon > > Simon, the phase appears at the bottom of this very page on > GIMPUSERS.comat > www.getgimp.com Would trademarking help with getting rid of these dubious sites? -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgp0sMbZa5zg8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] reconciling script-fu interactive and batch arguments
Gary Aitken writes: > I have never learned / figured out / been pointed at an example > for how to properly write a script which is usable in both interactive > and batch modes. [...] > This works, but neither procedure is making any use of what should be > the first argument (missing from add-watermark above but present in > batch-add-watermark) which is the mode. > > My gut says the mode is there to make this all much easier, > but I can't figure it out. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/23601 seems like you can't use run-mode from script-fu (though you can from e.g. Python). -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgplgrn5thTA8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Save for Web for GIF Animations?
On a somewhat related note, https://gist.github.com/unhammer/6376239 is a tiny command-line (bash 4) script that creates animated SVG's from whatever images you feed it. Might be useful (I've gotten smaller size images with better colours than GIF can give with it). -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or laziness. pgpT0w7I5wj66.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] APNG kickstarter includes GIMP in stretch goal
I just noticed this kickstarter for FOSS APNG tools: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/374397522/apngasm-foss-animated-png-tools-and-apng-standardi APNG is a format for making PNG animations, sort of like a "better animated GIF", with 24-bit colour, real transparency, and possibility for smaller file sizes with the same image. They've reached their minimum goal, but not yet the following stretch goal: $12,500: GIMP implementation complete with a robust animation editor (that can hopefully be used for other animation formats in the future such as WebP). They've got 10 days to go, and $3,710 left to be pledge, before they have enough to make a GIMP implementation (I'm assuming as a plugin?). (Also, for Inkscape people, they say at $32,000 they'll make "A keyframe animation editor with basic tween animation features for Inkscape complete with SVG+SMIL output and export to APNG".) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpYY39JFFRhP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Save for Web for GIF Animations?
Steve Kinney writes: > To radically reduce the file size of an animated GIF, use the > command Filters > Animation > Optimize (for GIF). This will create > a new image, with everything that does NOT change from one frame to > the next, deleted from the next frame, from the bottom of the layer > stack (first frame) to the top (last frame). But always try exporting both with and without "Optimize (for GIF)". When I try optimising, it typically makes the GIF file about 2 % larger rather than smaller (example: http://filebin.net/oagzulb65w). I've also tried ImageMagick's "convert -layers Optimize" on GIMP-exported gifs. This either makes the file larger (regardless of if I've used "Optimize (for GIF)" in GIMP first), or crashes with convert: malloc.c:2369: sysmalloc: Assertion `(old_top == (((mbinptr) (((char *) &((av)->bins[((1) - 1) * 2])) - __builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk, fd && old_size == 0) || ((unsigned long) (old_size) >= (unsigned long)__builtin_offsetof (struct malloc_chunk, fd_nextsize))+((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1)) & ~((2 * (sizeof(size_t))) - 1))) && ((old_top)->size & 0x1) && ((unsigned long)old_end & pagemask) == 0)' failed. Aborted (core dumped) What does have a major effect, however, is doing Image→Mode→Indexed and selecting some low number of colours. (This is where "Save for Web" is handy, since it lets you type in numbers and press TAB and get a quick preview of indexing. "Save for Web" doesn't save animations though, so it's _only_ useful for that preview.) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpvgS1H_TpfT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected
Liam R E Quin writes: > On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:15 +0200, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > >> Ideally GIMP could blink the image or something when you add selection >> points that don't increase/decrease the already selected area, but I >> guess that might take some time to implement. > GIMP can't know that until you complete the selection shape. It can't know that the complete final area will be a subset of the whole, but it can know from a single point that they will overlap. But perhaps other people rely on creating many partly-overlapping selections when they work, and would find a blink (or whatever) annoying. > I've often wished for "repeat the last selection but in a different > mode" (rather like Again rather than Redo). Ooh, yes that would be even better :-) > In the Glorious Shoeless Future With GEGL and Non-Destructive Editing > (GSFWGEGLNDE) presumably your suggestion would involve editing the graph > slightly - e.g. to insert "Select None" into the history graph. or that :) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpLdmxTvDUJX.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: >> >> Say you've zoomed in to start this painstaking freehand selection with >> lots and lots of points, and when you get to the end, nothing gets >> selected. Then you notice that, once again, you had done a Select All >> some time ago (invisible because you zoomed in) and forgotten to Select >> None before clicking the lasso. >> >> What do people do to avoid this? > > http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/saving-and-restoring-selections-in-gimp So your strategy is to always start with quick masks? Or you hit Shift-Q often? -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpui3eYVVoWY.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected
Ofnuts writes: > On 08/15/2013 11:15 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: >> Say you've zoomed in to start this painstaking freehand selection with >> lots and lots of points, and when you get to the end, nothing gets >> selected. Then you notice that, once again, you had done a Select All >> some time ago (invisible because you zoomed in) and forgotten to Select >> None before clicking the lasso. >> >> What do people do to avoid this? (I know the obvious answer is "remember >> to check what your selection is all the time", but that's seriously >> flow-disruptive.) > > People don't do anything because having a "Select all" or any > previously existing selection doesn't prevent a freehand selection (or > any other kind of selection), which will replace the existing > selection(*). What often happens is that the person forgets s/he > turned off the "marching ants", so as soon as the selection is > completed, all indication of selection disappears. while the selection > is indeed there (display it with the quick mask or with Ctrl-T). > > (*) or add/substract/intersect with it depending on key combos when > starting the tool. Of course if you shift-click (asking for addition) > with an existing full selection, you will get the full selection. Sorry, forgot to mention, I typically have the "add to selection" button on. It's a lot more pleasant to use when doing large freehand selections than having to hold the shift button, and avoids that other dangerous situation where your shift-clicking finger starts fatiguing and you let go for a click and the dots start looking weird and you hit return to just add what you've got and the old selection is all gone. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpEvzw4ZSenu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected
Elle Stone writes: > I'm always forgetting whether there's a previous selection still in > force, especially as often I temporarily set the selection to > invisible (it's hard to see the results of painting the selected areas > on fine details if the marching ants are in the way), and then forget > to make the selection visible again. Been there, done that :) > Is there a way to put the selection status on the status bar? > Something like "Current selection: All/None/Partial" or some such? > Kevin, would this type of status bar notification help in your > situation? That might help. But it's hard to say beforehand if such a notification would work well, since this is one of those things that happen only when you're not aware of it :-/ -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgphDuaTVhpX7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] freehand selection lost since image was already selected
Say you've zoomed in to start this painstaking freehand selection with lots and lots of points, and when you get to the end, nothing gets selected. Then you notice that, once again, you had done a Select All some time ago (invisible because you zoomed in) and forgotten to Select None before clicking the lasso. What do people do to avoid this? (I know the obvious answer is "remember to check what your selection is all the time", but that's seriously flow-disruptive.) Ideally GIMP could blink the image or something when you add selection points that don't increase/decrease the already selected area, but I guess that might take some time to implement. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpdrYOYxk84d.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] com
"naoto" writes: > Goodmorning > we have dowload the new version of GIMP, but we don’t be able to save the > immages in jpg > Why? Use File → Export See http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/it/gimp-images-out.html#save-export-image -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C pgpZydb4Krzyb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] question about scrambing images in gimp
KATHLEEN LORALEE KELLER writes: > Hi All, > I'm new to gimp, but wanted to know if there's a way we can scramble > images using the program. We are trying to make images unrecognizable > through scrambling (while still retaining the image colors,etc). Note, if this is for any sort of privacy purposes, that most such "scrambling" methods can to some extent be undone. A warped face can be unwarped, blurs can be unblurred, etc. If the purpose is to hide someone's face or similar, fill a circle with some colour instead. Or if you want to keep similar colours as the rest of the image, use Resynthesizer to grab colours from the surrounding area. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Added Bitcoin donation option
Michael Schumacher writes: > The fact that we got coins means that we can and have to think about > ways for transferring the donations to the GIMP account, which is > managed by the GNOME Fundraising team who are doing a good job at > that. > > The most viable options for that seems to be Coinbase.com, despite my > mixed feelings about it: > https://plus.google.com/110300216597663852321/posts/hpT1oVVWu2g. My > main concern isn't that they aren't trustworthy, but that they may not > be able to uphold their promises and standards to keep that data safe. > Hunting lots of bugs in other software just drops your confidence > somewhat. I notice WordPress uses BitPay: https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-direct-deposit I have no idea how they compare, but perhaps you could ask Automattic. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Create image from clipboard via command line
Piotr Rybałtowski writes: [...] > Kevin, I know about pasting when I have it opened. After taking a > screenshot I'm running GIMP and pressing ctrl+shift+v. I'd be much > better though if I could be able to run it as a single command so I > could make even better shortcut. > > Saving clipboard to a file is not for me. I want to have it opened as > new image. Well, if you don't mind the file ending up in your /tmp, you could save the python script as e.g. "save-clipboard-image.py" and make another script "save-clipboard-image-tmp.sh" that does #!/bin/sh cd /tmp /path/to/save-clipboard-image.py -o You might want to change "xdg-open" to "gimp" in the script in case it opens in the wrong program. Then just make a shortcut to "save-clipboard-image-tmp.sh" from wherever (remember to chmod +x them). > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer > wrote: [...] > (Or you can try this python2-script > http://stackoverflow.com/a/12122028/69663 which takes any image in > your > clipboard, run it with the "-o" option to open the file straight > away.) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Create image from clipboard via command line
Piotr Rybałtowski writes: > Hi, > > I'm thinking about some new feature which I'd love to see in GIMP but > can't add it myself. Maybe there's a way to achieve it. And if it's > wrong place to post such suggestions let me know, this is my first > mail here. > > To the point. I'd love to be able to create new image from clipboard > from a command line. There is such function so I guess it wouldn't be > a problem to add it. Having this one could make a shortcut (e.g. in > Unity's launcher RMB menu). It's useful when some app (e.g. screenshot > taking) puts image in clipboard and you want to quickly edit it. > > What do you think? If you've got GIMP running, just press Ctrl+Shift+V (or Edit→Paste from clipboard) and it'll create a new image from the current clipboard. You can probably whip up some script-fu to call that from the command-line if you prefer. (Or you can try this python2-script http://stackoverflow.com/a/12122028/69663 which takes any image in your clipboard, run it with the "-o" option to open the file straight away.) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer http://turl.ca/interleave_your_email ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!
Partha Bagchi writes: > Snapseed - totally free. Really? I can't find the link to the source/license … > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer > wrote: > > Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Ryan LaRose wrote: > >> You guys should develop a Gimp App for Android phone/tablet > users as well as > >> Iphone/Ipad users. Your app would destroy every single other > app out there. > >> I can't tell you enough how many of my friends said they wish > gimp had an > >> app. Thanks. > > > > Ryan, there are many things we should do, but the amount of > things we > > realistically can do is a lot smaller :) > > Somewhat related: has anyone found any useful libre graphics/photo > editing apps for Android at all out there? > > > -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Ryan LaRose wrote: >> You guys should develop a Gimp App for Android phone/tablet users as well as >> Iphone/Ipad users. Your app would destroy every single other app out there. >> I can't tell you enough how many of my friends said they wish gimp had an >> app. Thanks. > > Ryan, there are many things we should do, but the amount of things we > realistically can do is a lot smaller :) Somewhat related: has anyone found any useful libre graphics/photo editing apps for Android at all out there? -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open
"s.kortenweg" writes: > From the start of GIMP 2.8 there are rumors about Save vs. Export. > It is a change with the past, but that has happened more times by > changing versions. > The first version of the GIMP that i started (i believe 1.2) came up > with a single toolbox and nothing more. > And i survived all the changes that came after that. > To make the changes more visible for the users is it possible to add > to the various Save options > in the File Menu that this will happen in XCF format? As in: -- | File | || | New image | | ...| || | Save to XCF| | Save to XCF as ... | | ...| ? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save
Burlen Loring writes: > I'm sure the author(s) feels that it's the best thing since sliced > bread, however, differentiating between save and export in newer gimp > is a ridiculous waste of time. it's so annoying and in efficient that > I feel the need to chime in against it and strongly hope this change > will be reversed in a future release. The GIMP developers have stated that they are not reverting the change. Your options are: 1) learn the new way 2) use this plugin which implements the old way within GIMP: http://www.shallowsky.com/software/gimp-save/ 3) use the GIMP fork GIMB which reverts the change completely: https://github.com/mardy/gimb -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8.2
"Robert Bruyns" writes: > Dear GIMP fundi’s, > > I got the Gimp 2.8.2 [my third evolution] and I must say is awesome. > Good to see skills and hard work strutted in public without the > traditional teething troubles manifesting themselves. Well done! > > A bit difficult for a non-IT specialist to install ’cos the GIMP > set-up and the “help” section didn’t want to meld. I rather suspect > that using the file “run” facility instead of the “save” would’ve > avoided the issue but I need to backup the original in case of future > problems elsewhere. > > Initially the uninstall app never cleared the system of Gimp 2.6.12 > and so the new installation picked up some bad habits from the get-go > but I then purged my [Check Disk, Ccleaner, MRT etc.] XPsp3 of all > traces of the old and re-installed the new. Then I hadda hunt around > to enable my “help” and “context help” to link with the help/F1 icons. > But now all’s well! Thank you werry much! > > Just one gripe though! Can we disable or lose the decimal/fraction > brush slide sizing facility. Whole numbers in this context would be > perfect. To fiddle with fractions offering a 100th of a step at a time > is really tedious and, imho, unnecessary. Is there some file somewhere > where I could gently disable this feature? And how? Tia! There's an even simpler way to disable it: before clicking and dragging, move your mouse a little bit up until it changes to an upward-pointing arrow instead of a left-right-pointing arrow. -Kevin A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Error.
Olivier writes: > 2012/11/4 Steve Kinney [...] > Running an OS that works for not against the user is a very > addictive thing. Token on-topic reference: The GIMP was the > first > major gateway drug that started me down the path to a 100% Free > Software world. Ubuntu stopped including the GIMP in its default > installation package, and that's another strike against > Canonical... > sure it's stupidly easy to install, but dang it, GNU/Linux is > supposed to include the GIMP right out of the box, is all! > > :o) > > > The only problem, in my opinion, is that Ubuntu still insists on > fitting on a CD instead of a DVD, for reasons I don't know. off-topic, but http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/ubuntu-on-the-mongol-steppe-carving-paths-into-emerging-markets (last part) gives one very good reason. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Error.
Sleepingbeautiie writes: > All right, so. I've had GIMP ever since the latest version came out, > and it hasn't been up to this very day that it's given me an error > when loading, ad it's never happened before. Ever. It's some crud > that tells me "Runtime/C++ Error" and that it needs to terminate. > So... what the heck do I do? Am I not going to be able to use GIMP > anymore? .__. Are you using Windows? And does it say anything more than "Runtime/C++ Error" ? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] About great new save export function in Gimp-2.8
Simon Budig writes: > Ken Warner (kwarner...@verizon.net) wrote: >> On 9/10/2012 9:32 AM, Simon Budig wrote: >> >maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote: >> >>Because you're not dealing with reality. This is the problem of >> >>amateurs who create software professional vocation. >> > >> >See? This is what I was referring to. >> >> Just because the English doesn't meet your standards doesn't mean the >> viewpoint is invalid. And maybe your refusal to see the thought in >> the message is the root of the discord. > > Sorry for being too terse. But I was not referring to the language > (although I don't understand the "vocation" word there). I was referring > to the insinuation that we - as the developers - are just amateurs not > dealing with reality and hence do things the wrong way. > > Yes, I do take offense in that. > > Bye, > Simon I wish it were possible to get a spam filter for vicious ad hominem attacks, false sense of entitlement, and the flogging of dead horses … Does the mailing list software at least have some way of "closing" threads, perhaps with some standard reply? Perhaps they could be referred to alt.troll.gimp or something. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Using a filter from within script-fu
"Rune K. Svendsen" writes: > Hi list > > I'm learning how to write script-fu scripts. I've managed to resize an > image, but I would like to use a filter from within the script-fu > script, applying it to the image after it's been resized. More > specifically, I'd like to run the Filters->Generic->Dilate filter on > the image, before saving it. I've searched on Google for how to do > this, but I can't find any references to using filters from within a > script. Can anyone help me on this? Click Help, then either Plug-in browser or Procedure browser (not sure why there are two), type "dilate". You'll see the name of the main entry function, "plug-in-dilate", in bold, followed by the help string, list of parameters it takes, their types and possible values. Often it's helpful to look at the source of that function, in case you only want do part of what it does. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a one-click method to go straight to the source of non-compiled functions (hint hint, developers). Typing "locate dilate|grep -v '/help/'" into my command line gave me nothing, so perhaps it's written in C or something. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer Sent from my emacs ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp definition
Ofnuts writes: [...] > I'd go for GINP. GINP Is Not Photoshop. Ahah, make people think it's a new name, while they pronounce it the old way due to phonological assimilation. Sneaky. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] wavelet denoise plugin. principle
odimegwu david writes: > can someone refer me to a link that discusses about the concepts and > principles behind the wavelet denoise plugin at the gimp registry? I found > some tutorial but lost as to what it is about. I surely want to understand > the basic concepts behind the plugin. I think it is a great plugin for > working with images. Thanks. Another tutorial, but it helped for me: http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/12/getting-around-in-gimp-skin-retouching.html -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] This may be a dumb question :( ... twitch.tv related
Verin writes: > I was curious how people get the boxes and stuff into their "Info" tab > on Twtich.tv, instead of it just being plain text. Sorry if this is > the wrong section or anything. Any help is appreciated! Not sure I understand, if you mean the text/icons over the docks (like layers, brush settings and so forth), click the little [<] button in the upper right corner of the dock, "Tab Style" and "Icon" or "Automatic". -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] This is the sixth Time REMOVE ME from List
Jason Thompson writes: > I can't not log into my account it never sends me a email back requesting a > change of my > password so I can log on to stop this flooding of 50 emails a day in my > account this is > the sixth time I been asking. You don't need a password to unsubscribe, simply enter your email address at https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list in the very bottom box, click "Unsubscribe or edit options", then click the "Unsubscribe" button on the next page. You will however have to click the confirmation link (check your spam folder). BTW, you could also set up a filter so it doesn't flood your inbox: http://help.yahoo.com/tutorials/mmail/mmail/mm_filter1.html -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer GPG: 0x766AC60C ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 + Brushes
Alex Stegmann writes: > Hello, my name is Alex Stegmann, and I've been using Gimp for sometime now. > It's a > fantastic program, but I thought the area where it lacked the most was the > brushes. It > only came with a few basic brushes, and you often had to download extra packs > for that > something extra. This in itself wasn't a huge deal, although if you had brush > sets more > like those of PaintTool SAI or MyPaint, that would be really great. Those > program don't > have as much as Gimp, but they have some really great brushes, which makes > them fun to > draw in. > > My bigger concerns is adding your own brushes to Gimp via imported brush > packs. While > you say you integrate all files, the brush manager is lacking. If I wish to > add a few > brush packs to see what they do, the brush list quickly becomes > clogged. Click the "filter" drop-down. If you added a folder of brushes into ~/.gimp-2.8/brushes/fancynewbrushes, then you should have a tag/button called "fancynewbrushes" that you can click. This filters down the list of brushes to only those that were in that folder (you can also manually tag brushes if you want). > You can't seem > to delete brushes without going back into the brushes folder which you first > put them > in, and then delete the files. This also means if you like a few brushes in a > pack, but > the rest of it is useless to you, then you have to have everything, or > nothing. I don't understand. You first explain how you can delete some brushes, then you say that it's impossible? (There's even a simpler way: just right click and select the "delete" option.) I can imagine a situation where deleting wouldn't be possible though: if you installed the brush pack through a package manager, as the root user (so it's installed in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes/somename or something). GIMP can't give you root permissions ;) so in that case, what you should do is copy it over to your user directory, ~/.gimp-2.8/brushes/somename, uninstall it from the package manager, and then you can start deleting individual brushes from either GIMP or the folder. -Kevin A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Question About Gimp
"Candy" writes: > I tried to get into the IRC to ask this question but I kept getting a 404 > message. My > question isis "filling with transparent" the same as "tinting"? > (explanation: In > the image editor that Photobucket used to have I could change the color of > something in > a picture without losing the original shading, etc. They no longer have that > image > editor so I am looking for an Open Source program that is easy to use and has > that > feature.). If I understand correctly, you can achieve this by creating a new layer, filling with a color, and turning down the layer opacity. If you selected something on the original layer, the same selection is available when you're filling into the new layer (and the original will stay unchanged). You may find http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/10/getting-around-in-gimp-layer-masks.html helpful. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)
Richard Gitschlag writes: >> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:19:51 -0400 >> From: ptilopt...@gmail.com >> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org >> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;) >> >> * Richard Gitschlag [05-10-12 11:44]: >> > >> > (Damn it, why doesn't this mailing list have a proper reply-to address?) >> >> It does >> -- > > Then the real question is why every time I hit Reply, Hotmail prefills my > form with the > individual user's email instead of the mailing list's, and I have to change > it every time > before hitting Send. GIMP or otherwise, minor impediments like these are > quite annoying. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html is the long answer. TL;DR version: the group reply address is already in the email headers, your email client should give you a function to use that or the author reply address at your choice – if it doesn't, that's a bug in the client. Mailing lists that do change headers are providing bug compatibility (some people think that's a good thing, I guess). If Hotmail doesn't have a reply-to-group function as well as reply-to-author, I guess you could hit reply-to-all? Or get a better email client ;-) best regards, Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.8... missing something
gms9810 writes: > Hi, All > I just downloaded v2.8, installed it (Windows 7 Pro, 3g RAM, dual 1.66g > cores, 120 G HD) and as I expected, it didn't work. I got the same results > when I tried the various versions of 2.7. The installation seemed to go fine > ut when I started it I got message after message about missing dlls, most of > which were in the folder already. I went and downloaded the few that were > actually missing and tried again with the same results. Which DLL's? Is it a HP machine? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
"Judah Kleinveldt" writes: > Wow it seems those in disfavour of the new "save-export" function are pretty > agro. Although I don't have a neutral stance on it, I also see it as a _trivial_ change; and when I reflect a bit, I don't think it deserves this much discussion. As http://bikeshed.com/ (well worth the read) beautifully explains, "the amount of noise generated by a change is inversely proportional to the complexity of the change". -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
t; > You could have done this the LibreOffice way... When you try to save an image > loaded > from a format with information loss, you get a pop-up warning you and giving > you the > choice of whether to proceed or save as XCF (and also giving you the choice > to make this > warning go away in the future and just save like you told it to). This is what > LibreOffice does, e.g., when you load and then try to save a DOC file. Oh, no, please don't. Doc's at least retain _most_ of the information, now if you'd said .rtf you'd be closer to the truth … > Or you could have made this change at least a little bit less onerous by > making the save > dialog default to XCF but allowing the user to edit the extension to save to > another > format. But no, if you try to do that, it tells you, "Sorry, this dialog only > saves in > XCF format," and you have to cancel out of it and export instead. > > In my opinion, this change is a huge, huge step backward in useability. > > Jonathan Kamens The ui docs linked to in this thread argue quite well for the change, I'll just describe my main use case: I love being able to both save and export as I go along. Working on a web site, I definitely want to keep layer info available, so I need the XCF, but to see how it looks in Firefox, I need the PNG there too. So as I change something, and I want to quickly see how it looks in Firefox, I can just ctrl+shift+e (then click reload in Firefox). And it'll retain the path I last specified, so I don't have to enter anything. And as I go along, I click ctrl+s to keep the main XCF up-to-date, again without having to re-enter the path. With the old method, I would work on an XCF, then I had to save as, select PNG, ignore warnings, then, _very importantly_, I had to remember to switch back to XCF before I exited GIMP (or had a crash or power-loss or whatever), otherwise I'd lose the last steps. If I had GIMP focused but thought I had Firefox focused, and pressed Ctrl+W to close a tab, it'd take down the image instead with no warning about unsaved changes, and all the steps after I switched to "preview mode" would be lost. Pure danger. A graphical program shouldn't make you have to remember not to shoot yourself in the foot like that. best regards, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Misc RC (noob) problems
Madeleine Fisher writes: > I just downloaded the new RC, and it works really well, but I have a > problem--when I use > my tablet and it goes off the screen, the pressure settings will suddenly > switch off. Is > that something that I can fix? Or will it work better in future releases? > Some with the > free-move (or whatever)--when I move the view around sometimes I have to > minimize the > whole GIMP to get it to refresh properly. Hmm, this seems like something for the devs … If you feel like contributing a bug report, http://www.gimp.org/bugs/ has some info; there's also the gimp developer list at http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.devel > Also, just if anybody has any good advice: sometimes when I hit the hotkeys I > hit my > mousepad, too (on my laptop), and GIMP will sporadically spaz between the > "default" > settings and the one's I've put on my tablet to draw with at the current > moment. I > wouldn't ask for help, but it continues for minutes afterward sometimes. It > makes it > difficult to draw a line and is just kind of annoying. Any thoughts? If it were me, I would run a program that turns on/off the mousepad with a global hotkey (so I could press e.g. F12 or something to toggle it). Depends on your system how easy it is to find such a program though … -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Review: The Artists Guide to GIMP, 2nd edition
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: >> While we're on this topic, can anyone mention >> any other best Gimp books they might know of? >> (Not to detract from the ones mentioned already, >> but I am already planning on getting them and >> would like to know any others.) Gotta get up to >> speed with any advanced techniques I can find. >> I've often found these books give a great quick >> method into areas of the programs you might >> overlook. > > There are very few books on GIMP that cover advanced techniques. Sad but true. If you have a good colour printer I guess you could print out http://blog.patdavid.net/p/getting-around-in-gimp.html =P -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Review: The Artists Guide to GIMP, 2nd edition
Hi, just throught I'd plug a review of a GIMP 2.8 book I did here: https://diasp.org/posts/979588 -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's startup loading
Adir Kol writes: > Thanks Kevin BUT - > > Unfortunetely this feature is irelevant for me because I'm using the GIMP in > command > line. Do you mean in batch mode? If so, try (gimp-patterns-refresh). Look it up in Help→Procedure browser. I think all of script-fu is available through the Python API too, if that's what you mean by command line. > I'll be glad to know if anyone have an answer to my question, thanks...! > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer > wrote: > > Adir Kol writes: > > > Hi All, > > Anyone knows how the startup works? > > Does GIMP load the patterns, gradients, palettes, brushes to the memory > on the > startup? > > or it just looks at it when needed? > > > > I'm asking that because GIMP asks me to make refresh/restart every time > I add a > new > > pattern, otherwise I can't see it. GIMP asks you stuff on the command line? -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's startup loading
Adir Kol writes: > Hi All, > Anyone knows how the startup works? > Does GIMP load the patterns, gradients, palettes, brushes to the memory on > the startup? > or it just looks at it when needed? > > I'm asking that because GIMP asks me to make refresh/restart every time I add > a new > pattern, otherwise I can't see it. Can't you just click the blue Refresh button? Scripts can be updated by clicking Filters→Script-fu→Update btw. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Opening .cdr and .cpt
Steve Kinney writes: > On 03/05/2012 11:52 AM, promovis wrote: >> Download Uniconvertor, convert your cdr to svg, edit svg with >> Gimp. Good luck! > > You might also want to give Inkscape a try - it's a native SVG > editor. The best you can do with the GIMP is convert the SVG file > from vector format to a bitmap format, and presumably there was a > reason of some sort for creating a vector based file in the first place. There's also sk1, the program from which UniConvertor spawned: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/sk1-development-restarted I haven't tried it myself, but it may be interesting; likely more suitable for vector graphics than GIMP anyway. Does CMYK. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Switching to Mac, any advice?
Daniel Smith writes: > Hi all. > I'm switching from Gimp on Windows to a Mac. > (It's an older one, a G5 tower with Leopard only, > but it's nice to be back on a Mac again.) > Before I just download and install without > thinking, I thought I might ask anyone for > advice they might give for the best install for mac, > or perhaps any packages on mac that are better > or features not available on Windows, etc? > Thanks for any ideas. > Daniel Last time I used a Mac, the "GIMP on OS X" link from http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/ seemed like the most user-friendly option to me. Leopard and newer have X11 included, so it's only the one download, and http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Photo_editing.html says Resynthesizer etc. is included, so you get lots of plugins that you'd have to download and install one by one on Windows[1]. If you want the 2.7 beta, I guess you'll have to compile / use MacPorts. -Kevin [1] Of course, on Linux, it's even easier =P ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Installation Problems
Debbie Lewis writes: > I have installed GIMP version 2.6.12 on two identical machines, > Windows 764-bit and the program installed but will not open. There is > the informationthat came up on the screen. > > Problem signature: > > Problem Event Name: APPCRASH > Application Name: gimp-2.6.exe > Application Version: 0.0.0.0 > Application Timestamp: 4f2efd76 > Fault Module Name: libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll seems like a clue to me … I don't understand any of the other stuff here. > Fault Module Version: 2.24.8.0 > Fault Module Timestamp: 4f2500a4 > Exception Code:c005 > Exception Offset: 0001c00e > OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 > Locale ID: 1033 > Additional Information 1: 97bd > Additional Information 2: 97bd58ed0a3669728b37c1dd576f8751 > Additional Information 3: 4d52 > Additional Information 4: 4d527e55604cfa384fad8b0494da8aa7 > > I also installed this same program on my machine, Windows 7 64-bit > also, but itinstalled fine on mine and will run. My machine is an > older machine. > > Just wondered if there are any ideas of what I could try to get this > program to work on those two machines. Could http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user/21283 be the solution? That is, search the computer for files named "libgdk-win32-2.0-0.dll", and rename any such files that are _not_ within the GIMP directory. hope this helps, -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] moving floating layers (was: Trying to move layer; only outline will move)
"Dan ." writes: > Hi Kevin, > > From my experience, after pasting a new object in order to create a new > layer, in the > layers menu there should be Floating Selection ("pasted Layer") like Burnie > wrote. For > me, I right-click the "pasted layer" and select "New Layer", and the pasted > object shows > up as a new layer. From there, I make sure I deselect everything (SELECT > > NONE), and > then use the move tool (making sure the cursor is over the pasted object) to > click on > the object in your new layer in order to move it. Hope that is of some help. You can move it first too though (then press ctrl+shift+N to turn it into a regular layer). I find that quicker, but whatever floats your boat. Layer. Whatever. -k ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to move layer; only outline will move
Burnie West writes: > On 03/02/2012 07:08 AM, Keith Purtell wrote: >> I've read the official tutorial several times and yet the directions >> aren't working for me. I pasted in a layer which shows up fine in >> the layers box. The active layer is the one I pasted in. The Move >> tool is set to "Move the active layer." I've tried using the Move >> tool by both dragging and clicking and dragging. In either case, the >> new layer doesn't move, only the outline (marching ants). I've got a >> huge project to complete today and can't spend an hour just trying >> to get GIMP to move a layer. Tips? >> Keith > The newly pasted layer must be anchored before it can be moved. Your > layers menu likely shows the words Floating Selection ("pasted Layer") > If so, then the layer must be be anchored first. Under the layer menu, > select "Anchor Layer" Not on my GIMP … I move around floating layers all the time. I'm pretty sure «Select → None» is the solution. -k ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Installing
Normand writes: > I wish it would be that simple. When trying to start (in Linux) Gimp > " ...in console mode, type LANGUAGE=fr gimp ", LANG=fr, not LANGUAGE ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7, - 2 simple questions
Kekko writes: > Hi everybody, > just two simple questions about GIMP 2.7.4 that I installed on Linux Ubuntu > 11.10. > 1. In previous versions of GIMP the shortcut ctrl+E allowed to put the image > entirely in the frame while now ctrl+E is the command for exporting the > image: do you know how to have a simple shortcut to replicate what ctrl+E did > in 2.6 version? ctrl+J / ctrl+shift-J, according to http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html > 2. Why the command "Save as" don't allow to save in jpg? Now we are forced to > use Export in order to save an image in jpg format. Yes, we are :) If you only work in JPG, just think of Export as saving, you can ignore the "save" menu item. Some good reasons for splitting it in two items: I at least prefer having both the full, untainted XCF available at all times, and once in a while I'll export to JPG/PNG, this used to require a lot of maintenance before, now I can just to ctrl+s or ctrl+e depending on whether I want to save or export. Also, when saving as JPG etc. in 2.6, you would get a warning about how layer information is lost. This you don't get now, saving always preserves all information, it is assumed that when you export, you're aware that information is lost. It's a lot more honest, in my opinion. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Using Gimp commercially- help needed
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Richard Allport wrote: >> Hi all, does anyone know if there is a clearance procedure someone would >> have to go through in order to use Gimp in a commercial, sale –based product >> teaching creativity or other visual based subjects? Or someone I could email >> or call directly failing that? > > You are encouraged to make money using GIMP. > > Alexandre Prokoudine > http://libregraphicsworld.org … but in case you don't want to take legal advice from random strangers, gimp.org itself is quite clear on this: http://www.gimp.org/about/selling.html See also the license itself – which most likely zoomed past your eyes as you installed GIMP – for the legalese: http://www.gimp.org/about/COPYING , e.g. the second paragraph of the Preamble. Hope this helps, good luck on your product :) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?
"Erik P. Olsen" writes: [...] > > Thanks for this detailed description. Yes, I've rotated the layer > only, so now at least I know how to rotate correctly. But please > enlighten me why would you want to rotate a layer and not the entire > image? Because sometimes you have several layers (that's sort of the point of layers, otherwise the concept of layers would be useless). Just to give a simple example: you open an image of a mountain landscape as a background layer, then add an image of a plane as another layer on top of that. But the plane is flying from left to right, which is boring, so you rotate it (the layer) so it's flying straight up. If you had rotated the entire image, the mountains would be sideways. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Debugging GIMP
mastan writes: > Hi, > > i dont know whether it is right place ask this question or notstill i am > need of help > > when i a running gimp from the terminal using ./gimp-2.7.4 in ubuntu > 10.04 > it is giving segementation fault .but i am able to use the GIMP(gui) > and do all the operations.. So … it's working? There's no problem? > i want to debug gimp > when i am trying to do that its getting terminated showing that > there is segmenatation fault Post the terminal output. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] ICC Profiles: UFRaw + GIMP => 2x correction?
Gary Aitken writes: > On 2/1/2012 12:08 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > >> When I apply an Output Profile in UFRaw and send to GIMP, GIMP asks me >> whether to keep the embedded profile or convert to sRGB, so I do know >> that it's noticing a profile there. You can set GIMP to ask on the >> bottom drop-down of that menu. > > I don't see any dialog at all. The image just appears in the gimp > image window. > >> Also, just to check "if it's plugged in", if you run ImageMagick's >> "identify -verbose myfile.tif", does it have a section like >> >> Profile-icc: 3004 bytes >> Description: Pink >> Manufacturer: IEC http://www.iec.ch >> Model: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB >> Copyright: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company Modified using >> Adobe Gamma >> >> ? >> >> Or, if you click Image→Image Properties (alternatively: >> Image→Mode→Set/Convert Colour Profile), does it say that the current one >> is sRGB built-in, or that it is YourProfileName? > > It says the profile is "sRGB built-in, Default RGB working space" > but it displays with the profile applied in ufraw. The Display profile in UFRaw is not embedded, the output profile (middle of the three) is. No matter what output profile you select, the preview in UFRaw shouldn't change, if I understand things correctly. > Edit/Preferences/Color Management shows no profile for RGB. > >>> Now set the RGB Profile to the one you used in ufraw when generating >>> the .tif image. >>>You will see the image transformed again. >>>In effect, the profile is being applied twice. >> >> I don't see this. What I do see is that no matter what crazy embedded >> Output Profile I use in UFRaw (and I select "keep embedded" in GIMP), >> changing the RGB Profile in that part of GIMP doesn't change what the >> image looks like, and they all look the same no matter what profile they >> have (or even if they don't have a profile). >> >> However, if I open an image without an embedded profile, clicking >> Image→Image Properties tells me that the profile is "sRGB built-in", and >> if I have RGB Profile set to something weird in Preferences then, the >> image gets weird colours. >> >> Tested using UFRaw version 0.18, GIMP version 2.7.4, on Arch Linux. >> >>> BTW, I'm using gimp 2.7.5 (2.8 preview); I don't know if this is >>> specific to 2.7.5 or not. It may also be that these are temporary >>> issues with the transition to full color management and 16bit colors. >>> But if they are issues not already on the gimp development plate, they >>> should probably be raised so they are at least well-known. >> >> Ah. Perhaps the difference is to do with Windows? > > dangit. > Could be windoze related; > or something that creeped in between 2.7.4 and 2.7.5. > Anyone running 2.7.5 on any os who can confirm 2.7.5 behavior one way > or the other? > > Ugh. Global .gimprc says > #(color-profile-policy ask) > my .gimprc says > (color-profile-policy convert) > which I don't believe I ever set, but I could be lying. > > I now see, at bottom of preferences/color management, option to ask, > keep, or discard (convert) > > However... > I changed it to "keep", > exited, > my .gimprc now says keep > The image comes across with the profile, but image/properties still > says sRGB default. > Change it to ask and the behavior is the same -- I still don't get a > dialog, and it still says the profile is the default despite the > original one being applied. Can you use a third program to ensure that the colour profile is actually embedded and not just destructively applied? I guess ImageMagick is not as simple to use on Windows, though you could try just uploading it to http://regex.info/exif.cgi which runs ImageMagick etc. for you, if you feel alright uploading it to random websites … -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7.x - How do I move the main tool palette? (single window mode)
James writes: > I love single window mode in the new 2.7 series. I currently have my > preferences such that the main tool palette is locked to the > upper-left side of the single window. > > However, I can't move it. I also can't figure out how to replicate > this on a new install (since by default the tool palette is on the > upper-right and can't be moved). > > I'm guessing I missed a setting/preference somewhere. How do I move > the main tool palette? Thanks! This works for me: Turn off single-window mode, rearrange, turn on again. But maybe there's a method with even fewer steps? -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] ICC Profiles: UFRaw + GIMP => 2x correction?
Gary Aitken writes: > Humor me, and try the following: > > Scenario 1: > > Load a raw image into ufraw with some feature for which you can tell a > difference when a profile is applied. > > Apply the profile in ufraw. > Save the file as .tif > > Start gimp. > Go to Edit/Preferences/ColorManagement > Make sure RGB Profile is set to "None" > Load the .tif image. > It should look as the corrected image, i.e. profile applied. > Go to Edit/Preferences/ColorManagement > Check RGB Profile > It still says "None" > ok so far > Presumably the profile used is the one embedded in the .tif image. > But there is no way of knowing what that profile is or whether it > has been applied that I can figure out. When I apply an Output Profile in UFRaw and send to GIMP, GIMP asks me whether to keep the embedded profile or convert to sRGB, so I do know that it's noticing a profile there. You can set GIMP to ask on the bottom drop-down of that menu. Also, just to check "if it's plugged in", if you run ImageMagick's "identify -verbose myfile.tif", does it have a section like Profile-icc: 3004 bytes Description: Pink Manufacturer: IEC http://www.iec.ch Model: IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB Copyright: Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company Modified using Adobe Gamma ? Or, if you click Image→Image Properties (alternatively: Image→Mode→Set/Convert Colour Profile), does it say that the current one is sRGB built-in, or that it is YourProfileName? > Now set the RGB Profile to the one you used in ufraw when generating > the .tif image. > You will see the image transformed again. > In effect, the profile is being applied twice. I don't see this. What I do see is that no matter what crazy embedded Output Profile I use in UFRaw (and I select "keep embedded" in GIMP), changing the RGB Profile in that part of GIMP doesn't change what the image looks like, and they all look the same no matter what profile they have (or even if they don't have a profile). However, if I open an image without an embedded profile, clicking Image→Image Properties tells me that the profile is "sRGB built-in", and if I have RGB Profile set to something weird in Preferences then, the image gets weird colours. Tested using UFRaw version 0.18, GIMP version 2.7.4, on Arch Linux. > BTW, I'm using gimp 2.7.5 (2.8 preview); I don't know if this is > specific to 2.7.5 or not. It may also be that these are temporary > issues with the transition to full color management and 16bit colors. > But if they are issues not already on the gimp development plate, they > should probably be raised so they are at least well-known. Ah. Perhaps the difference is to do with Windows? -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp newbie trying to get a job done.
Brent Shifley writes: > THANK YOU! > > I have been burning brain cells on this for a while. I do have one final > question. Like in the case where there was green in all sorts of places, how > could I go and change all the green areas to any color that I want, in only a > couple of clicks? Colours → Colourise, works on the current selection or all if none is selected. http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-tool-colorize.html ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Misleading reply to a FAQ for installing a GIMP2.6 Windows 7-32 executable
Jernej Simončič writes: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:32:36 +0100, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > >> – well, the assumption is wrong. LoginUI.exe is in fact a broken >> application, part of HP's "personalisation", and it places a broken >> version of intl.dll in the Windows system directory. This overrides the >> file that GIMP expects to be there. > > Actually, GIMP expects intl.dll to be in it's installation directory. > However GIMP's plug-ins are separate executables which have to be placed in > another directory, but due to the way Windows loads DLLs, they try to load > intl.dll from the System32 directory before trying the installation > directory. Does that mean you could circumvent it copying GIMP's intl.dll into any subdirectory containing a plug-in? (Alternatively, find ut where loginui.exe presides, and move the broken intl.dll from system32 into that directory.) -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Misleading reply to a FAQ for installing a GIMP2.6 Windows 7-32 executable
Evan Neumann writes: > Let the kids finger paint over the cracked walls. > > As far as Gimp. I don't know about the other issues, but rename intl dll > intl-old.dll > > Then re-install Gimp. > > There is no feasible way to hold someone's hand through troubleshooting Gimp > though. Because it is open source there are morose bugs that a user must > muddle through when things go wrong. Perhaps that generalisation has merit, perhaps not, but in this case the fault lies with HP. I note that Renatus writes: > However intl.dll in folder Windows\System32 was hardly placed there by some > broken > application. It is used by LoginUI.exe, the user interface for the logon > screen! – well, the assumption is wrong. LoginUI.exe is in fact a broken application, part of HP's "personalisation", and it places a broken version of intl.dll in the Windows system directory. This overrides the file that GIMP expects to be there. If anything, the problem is that GIMP expects the Windows install not to be screwed up by HP. If you own an HP computer, it might help to complain to them. Anyway, if you use PortableGIMP, this comment seems to give a solution: http://portableapps.com/node/1598#comment-11104 -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection
peter kostov writes: > On 01/16/2012 04:05 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: >> Kevin Brubeck Unhammer writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a >>> complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of >>> the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly, >>> GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does >>> anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? >>> >>> (I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them >>> off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.) >> >> Is there a way to make rulers be off by default when I start Gimp? I >> know it's just a matter of clicking ctrl+shift+r, but that's easy to say >> when you've just lost a huge, painstakingly made selection … >> > > In 2.6 the setting is in Preferences -> Appearance -> show rulers Doh! How'd I miss that … thanks :) -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer writes: > Hi, > > I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a > complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of > the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly, > GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does > anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? > > (I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them > off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.) Is there a way to make rulers be off by default when I start Gimp? I know it's just a matter of clicking ctrl+shift+r, but that's easy to say when you've just lost a huge, painstakingly made selection … -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Ruler units
Robert Arens writes: > I'm a first time GIMP user. I'm a long-time Adobe PhotoShop user. > What is the default ruler units. How can I change the ruler units and > divisions to whatever I want? Pretty sure the default is pixels, you can see and change the unit being used in the bottom left of an image (left of the zoom level, it should say px and be a drop-down menu). Add units under Edit→Units: http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/plug-in-unit-editor.html -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] It's possible to duplicate and move a guide (guide line) with Gimp 2.7 ?
Stephane Klein writes: > Hi, > > I wonder if in Gimp I can duplicate and move (shift forward) a guide > (guide line) ? > > Example, I put a horizontal guide on my view. > Now I would like to append another horizontal guide 30px below the > previous guide. > > I didn't found this feature in Gimp 2.7.4 > > Thanks for your help. > > Regards, > Stephane You may find this useful: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/advanced-ways-to-create-guides-in-gimp best regards, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > >>>> photographer moving from prosumer to professional (hopefully), I am >>>> wondering about the quality differences between gimp and photoshop, >>>> especially in the bit rate area. >>> >>> Photoshop wins right now >> >> But Darktable (http://darktable.sf.net/) runs on Mac, right? > > 1. Not the up to date version. > 2. You don't get local editing. > >> If you're producing for screen/web at least, 8 bit vs 16 bit doesn't >> matter for a static image in itself > > Oh, it does matter :) It's not about viewing, it's about rounding errors. … which happen when you're editing. By "static image" I meant when you're just viewing ;) -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Kevin Horkan wrote: >> I've tried some research on this subject but have come up with little >> definitive information. I'm new to gimp, have used photoshop some, >> and am new to the iMac and OSx operating system. As a >> photographer moving from prosumer to professional (hopefully), I am >> wondering about the quality differences between gimp and photoshop, >> especially in the bit rate area. > > Photoshop wins right now But Darktable (http://darktable.sf.net/) runs on Mac, right? I highly recommend using Darktable for RAW editing (especially things that have to do with color/exposure changes), then opening in GIMP for transformations and touch-up. I'm no expert, but the way I understand it: If you're producing for screen/web at least, 8 bit vs 16 bit doesn't matter for a static image in itself, since what you see on the screen is no more than 8 bit anyway. Where it matters is in the editing process, since certain operations (e.g. color curve changes) can lead to minor "rounding errors". 16 bits means you have more numbers of each color, similar to having more decimal places. E.g. if you don't know how to deal with decimal points, and you do one operation that divides by 3 and then times 2, 10 / 3 = 3.333… ≃ 3, 3 * 2 = 6 while if you keep one decimal until you're done calculating, 10 / 3 = 3.333… ≃ 3.3, 3.3 * 2 = 6.6, (and now we're done calculating, round off the last digit:) 6.6 ≃ 7 And that kind of rounding can add up. The picture in http://www.microstockgroup.com/photoshop-discussion/8-bit-or-16-bit/ gives an example of an image edited once in 8 bit and once in 16 bit which was then converted to 8 bit. HTH, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 Release Date
Kasim Ahmic writes: > OK well I finally installed it and I really like it! Although it was laggy > beyond > belief. That might be because it was running off of the USB stick. Does > anyone know if > the packages on the Partha website will be able to run side by side with GIMP > 2.6.11? If it truly is a "PortableApp", you should be able to just drag the folder from your stick to e.g. your desktop or something. The gimp executable should be in the "bin" subfolder. On a related note, I see there's a GIMP 2.7.3 at the original PortableApps.com site: http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable Anyone know the difference between the versions? -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 Release Date
Kasim Ahmic writes: > @ Archie Yup ^_^ > > @ Alexandre Haha my bad. I'm running Windows XP Professional 32-bit Did you try the builds from http://partha.com/ ? Haven't run Windows in a while, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. There's even a portable version that you can put on a USB stick, won't touch your harddrive at all. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Crash
Rob Antonishen writes: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer > wrote: > > Bob Long writes: > > > Stefan Maerz wrote, > > > > [..] > > > >> It is possible to write a python-fu versioning system, right? I've yet > >> to do anything with python-fu so I'm not sure. > >> > >> -Stefan > > > > I've never used it, but look at: > > http://registry.gimp.org/node/14246 > > > > "It will save a backup copy of your active image as > > [imagename]--MM-DD-HH-MM.xcfgz in the same directory as your > > active image." > > Just tried it, it works great :) > > Note: if you do two backups within one minute, only the last one will be > saved. That's not really a bug though ;) > > Would you like it to not overwrite? I can change it fairly easily, by > extending the > naming convention to add seconds :) For me it's sufficient, but perhaps others make more frequent backups? I just noticed because I was purposely testing for it. -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Crash
Bob Long writes: > Stefan Maerz wrote, > > [..] > >> It is possible to write a python-fu versioning system, right? I've yet >> to do anything with python-fu so I'm not sure. >> >> -Stefan > > I've never used it, but look at: > http://registry.gimp.org/node/14246 > > "It will save a backup copy of your active image as > [imagename]--MM-DD-HH-MM.xcfgz in the same directory as your > active image." Just tried it, it works great :) Note: if you do two backups within one minute, only the last one will be saved. That's not really a bug though ;) -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Crash
Destiny Bottino writes: > Hello, > I was recently working on a big project of mine using GIMP. I had spent 5 > hours straight > working on it, saving it every 5 minutes, and then GIMP crashed and lost > everything but > a few layers. This was not a saving issue because the layers that stayed were > made at > completely different times. I lost pretty much all my work and I am furious. > I don't > have time to do it all over again. I'm pretty sure there is no way of > bringing it back. > GIMP is a wonderful drawing program and I use it all the time, but this was > just too > overboard for me. It crashes almost everytime I use it but all those other > times, > everything was saved alright and everything was fine. This time one of my > best drawings > was lost and there is no way of bringing it back (trust me, I've tried > everything). I am > letting you know because I don't want this to happen to anyone else and (even > though I > am certain nothing can fix it) is there anyway to bring my drawing back? I > put my best > work into it and it makes me furious that its gone. Please, if anyone knows > how to bring > it back, please help me. This drawing meant a lot to me. You might want to upload the xcf somewhere if you want people to help with trying to get it back. Howver, being able to keep a few layers (as opposed to completely losing the whole file) does sound very odd (your harddrive isn't making strange ticking noises, is it?). In any case, if you're getting a lot of crashes, do ensure you're running the newest version (click Help→About, should say 2.6.11). You might also want to invest in some more RAM (I've got 3GB, haven't had a GIMP crash in over a year). best regards, -Kevin ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection
rich writes: >>Hi, > >>I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a >>complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of >>the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly, >>GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does >>anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? > >>(I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them >>off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.) > > Using Gimp 2.6.11 and PCLOS > > What happens here. > > This only happens if the image completely fills the window and with the > scissors or paths tools, the free select is not affected. A solution might be > to increase the size of the window so that there is a border. This does mean > that high zoom levels are not available. I know, not really a solution when selecting hair at the top of a ~7000x5000px image … > Next strange effect. The path tool is ok, go into the border and the > generated selection follows the edge of the image. The scissors tool, going > completely into the border and the selection snaps to 9 pix into the image. > Keeping the tool exactly on the border even at high zoom does work. That really does sound like a bug, does it happen in 2.7.3? > I would say, maybe, if you are using high zoom so no border available + shaky > hand, then steer clear of the ruler and finish off with quick mask. For now, turning off and on the ruler is my "solution", but it seems like something close to a UI bug. -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] clicking rulers loses freehand selection
Hi, I just noticed a serious UI issue. Say I'm zoomed in and am creating a complex freehand selection. I'm now selecting stuff at the very top of the canvas, and I happen to miss a bit and touch the 'ruler'. Suddenly, GIMP switches to the move tool and I've lost the whole selection! Does anyone know if this behaviour can be turned off? (I know I can turn off the rulers, but it's annoying having to turn them off and on all the time since they are sometimes useful.) -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Poor install and uninstall
Mario Valle writes: > Like Berlusconi's claims: a lot of words without substance or proof. > Which misplaced folder? > Which "numerous files"? > BTW, the files under .gimp-2.6 are here and remain here for a very > good reason. To make that more clear: The .gimp-2.6 folder keeps per-user settings. When you uninstall the program, you only uninstall the program files, not your personal settings folder, which might include brushes, patterns, scripts, etc. It would be _very_ bad form to remove this when uninstalling GIMP. Would you prefer that it "uninstalled" the images you created in GIMP as well? > On 19-Nov-11 02:43, Mark Potts wrote: >> I was very unimpressed by this software package. I needed some image >> editing capabilities under Windows and this seemed like a good choice. >> However when I installed the package it spewed files into various >> misplaced folders. I subsequently uninstalled only to find that >> despite claiming success at this it left numerous files on my system. >> Even though it is free sofctware there is still no excuse for this >> kind of sloppy coding. >> >> Mark -- Kevin Brubeck Unhammer ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list