Robert Schmidt's post seemed to be a little more thoughtful. I, (like him),
look forward to the time when the definition of human and man is
determined to be ALL Homo-sapient Citizens. I do appreciate his being a
little more understanding. As a Constitutional Conservative, I agree with
Mr.
I am deeply saddened, if the account of those who voted is accurate. It is
hard to believe my own Council Member is so out of touch with the
Neighborhoods he represents as to not vote against this clear attempt to
undermine poor people's chance to own and control their housing. I am also
Steve Brandt is correct in his article about the Black and minority
community welcoming a plan to create affordable home-ownership. I sometimes
believe the politicians and developers look at Black people, and Native
people, as a permanent underclass to be exploited as renters and with
poverty
Tom and others:
Tom Leighton's suggestions to Keith seem correct, but there are some
problems. Tom suggests that fast food and banks would be allowed, just not
with drive-through facilities. What Tom and some planners may not realize
is that such a limitation in effect entirely bans those kinds
I think Craig has his History mixed with Sci-Fi.or fantasy. Though I happen
to agree with his analogy. Much of the suburbs could care less about the
City. They have their shops, their bars, their movie theaters and quite
honestly have them more convenient placed than many City neighborhoods.
The Minneapolis Public Library Board will vote on the closing of the
Franklin Library on Wed, March 26, at 6:00 pm at 250 So Marquette Ave, 4th
Floor. The closing is included in agenda item 6 e) Budget Reduction,
Suspend operations at Franklin and Sumner.
The Franklin Library is more than just
Mr. Mann, I have a couple of question.
Who really cares what the count is? On either side
What possible difference could it make?
You should possibly watch more television. The war IS going on. The polls
conducted by even the liberal media indicate that a majority of Americans
support that
Since we are talking boondoggle, lets look at a possible City one. The NRP
Policy Board, realizing that there is an over abundance of Multi-family
affordable housing units, votes to hold aside 2 million out of 14 million
earmarked for affordable housing. They planned to use it to increase
It was suggested that arrests be made at unruly demonstrations, and fines
leaved to pay for the police presence. I believe the suggestion was for
demonstrations where there are so many lawbreakers as to require a large
police presence. Disorderly conduct and breaking the law does not come
under
It's not the Florida people that bother me. Heck, I enjoy them, (even when
I don't always agree with them). It's those folks that are from way-out,
you know from St.Paul and those darn suburbs that are always butting in. If
they are going to hitch hike on our conversations they ought to hop in
Martha Bolinger asks,
This feels like an unusual political world for Minneapolis. These voting
patterns are so all over the map. What's their reasoning? There's got
to be more going on here?
What is going on here is that the Council Members who are concerned about
crime in their neighborhoods
Actually David, I was not only referring to the Bouza quote that was
published. I was referring to an earlier meeting that Tony Scallon and
Brian Coil had with neighbors Mosin Agamirzai, Brian Daniels, Myself and
other from PV Neighborhood Action Group which Tony Bouza came into the
middle of.
Jason writes:
When some on the board expressed a concern for the wording, I understand
Mr. Arthur rebutted that it was immaterial because Mayor Rybak supports
abolishing neighborhood approval as it stands today and it won't be an issue
in the future.
Forgive me if I have not kept up with all of
I thinkEric would have to mention more than
just one "other 'ahem' CM (who happen to white) who was involved in
bribery...". It is no secret that more than one of the politicians holding
office in the last administration were probably on the payroll or part of the
"5% club". Brian was just
Elizabeth Haugen's post today shows what went wrong with the Nicolett-Lake
Sherman project. There is presently over a 7% vacancy rate for rental
multi-housing and 2738 new units have been approved for construction. There
just is not any justification for subsidizing more rental units at this
Vicky adds:
Yep. If you want to see what $100 million worth of redevelopment using
Tax Increment Financing (TIF) can buy - come on over to the West Bank and
take a look. Our friendly neighborhood developer, The West Bank Community
Development Corporation, run by Tim Mungavan, spent all of
As someone who has taught research methods and statistics, let me assure Mr.
Mork that you can make inferences and disprove something, but you can not
prove anything with statistics. I am sure that the people living around
Franklin and Park in South Minneapolis and along 26th in Jordan received a
The List occasionally creates images that are absolutely hilarious. Such
a funny one is Tom Welling's about Peter McLaughlin Bullying Lisa
McDonald. Anyone who knows Lisa McDonald must have gotten a good belly
laugh at that image. Tom apparently does not know what a strong woman
truly is. Peter
Though I have serious disagreements with many on the List I have to whole
heatedly disagree! The List is one of the few venues that seems to have
any impression upon the politicians of Minneapolis. Issues are brought out
into the light where people can look at them. Craig, Vicki Heller and
I have to agree with Peter. Vicki attempts to bring accountability to the
politicians of Minneapolis. She highlights where hundreds of millions of
dollars have been miss-appropriated both to for profit corporations losing
money and non-profits who seem to make a whole lot of it. (Both the
While the numbers are indeed as Mark presents them, they are heavily skewed
by theft figures. Even car theft, if no one is in the car, is more of a
nuisance than a threat to personal safety. The stats that matter are the
ones where people are directly affected and threatened. Murder, rape,
Mary Watson, Jan Graham and myself (Jim Graham) will be again planting
flowers on Franklin Avenue at 5:00 PM tonight. Please come and join us if
you like to plant flowers. We have 15 large pots left between 13th and the
Indian Center. Bring your green thumb and artistic inclinations. Paul's
and
I received a bunch of off list comments in both directions on this
Statistics issue.
Actually Mark, I do not have any beef with either MPD or Reinhardt at all.
I enjoyed his post, Reinhardt actually seemed to understand the limitations
of statistics and their uses. I take my beefs up where I find
I, like Keith, usually find myself agreeing with Michael Hohmann's posts.
I do have some disagreements about Michael's thing about white teachers.
There does not seem to be any racial corner on Bad teachers. Though I
agree with Michael about the number of bad teachers. It would be many if
20 or
The controversy about bar closing times and charges of possible confects of
interest are good for comical relief from serious matters, but only as a
comical side bar. Hopefully we will not let the ridiculous get in the way
of, and distract from, the important issues facing the City. Lets look at
The State of Minnesota closed their institutions for most of the Mentally
Ill and threw these unfortunate people into the streets to be homeless and
victimized. Or institutionalized them in Supportive Housing institutions
in crime ridden areas. The City of Minneapolis has concentrated, if not
The suggestion was not that the Singapore Circle be used for graffiti in
Minneapolis. Heck I think it should be any property owners right to go out
and beat the living crap out of any graffiti artist caught defacing ones
property. And if not up to it personally to be able to contract another to
The major problem with Chief Olson's tenure in office was not Robert Olson;
it was mainly the mayors whom Olson worked for. Chief Olson advised Sharon
that the crime problem was out of hand, and that it would come back to haunt
her. It did. Chief Olson, the good soldier, proceeded to work as
This would, on its face, not seem to be a Minneapolis issue. However, let
me assure readers that it is a very pressing and important Minneapolis
issue. Because it IS happening every day in every neighborhood and every
community in our City of Minneapolis.
Booker, thank you for your post. It
Title: The Rockall Times
What a hoot and how applicable Jason's post is to
discussions of Minneapolis Policing of late.
Arresting Drug dealers on the corner on 26th
over north, (or on Park and Franklin over south), costs the City and Taxpayers
real money, and does not affect most real
It was meant as the highest form of compliment for Anne. And yes Anne, it
is certainly more fun when tea-kill-ya is involved. Tea-kill-ya is a venial
sin for me. Of course under its influence the S sometimes pops out on my
chest and I just might consider Mortal sin.
I also enjoyed Anne's
Tom Welling writes:
In a letter to the MCDA dated June 9, 2003 Basim Sabri made the following
claim regarding Ed Felien. My question is, how much of an interest in Pulse
does Basim have - does this explain the recent coverage of Sabri and Sabri
supporters such as Peter McLaughlin, who was
Mark Snyder writes:
From what I've seen, the biggest obstacle facing children in poor families
in Minneapolis are unstable living situations that cause them to move
frequently and also change schools frequently, often leading to their
falling behind. If direct housing assistance to families,
80% of crime (that takes up a police officers time) is in someway attributed
to drugs. Why not attack crime at its source rather than its symptom. Put
teeth in that DrugCrime Task Force I suggested by assigning 50 Police
Officers to it. (This is not a random number - it is the number Captain
Brandon Lacy says:
As a matter of fact, the Governor who sent those troops in is the same
governor that is a co-conspirator for any increase in crime that happens
in
Minneapolis because he is the governor responsible for pulling safety nets
out from under the citizens of Minneapolis, and when
Mark Wilde seems to have taken lessons on gangs from J. Edgar or former
Chief Boaza. He seems to be denying they exist! Other than as a means to
allow Police to define only poor inner city black men. I do think the
term is used for a great deal more than just inner city black men. There
are
Please Jill, do not lump all Southsiders together. Some of us are also in
neighborhoods where you have to dodge bullets.
Eric, a really cool person who had beaten chemical addiction and Franklin
Avenue to live in the neighborhood after living in a cardboard box in the
Ventura Village
If I can, I (also) would like to clear up a couple of what seems like
misconceptions regarding drug dealing, gangs and solutions and ongoing
efforts.
First, the different gangs each have territory that encompasses both North
and Southside Neighborhoods. The wars, shootings, and fights are the
I am glad to see at least some humor in this comedy and farce. In truth I
would much rather go to the women's facility. Men are such smelly pigs,
whereas women's facilities are usually much more sanitary. This information
is based on a period of cleaning buildings many years ago, (not lurking in
Linda Berglin does not posture and does not bellow. Linda does not posture
liberal, Linda is the true LIBERAL. A true political LEADER, who quietly
goes about making the world better for people. Linda is the original Steel
Magnolia, a sweet person willing to go eye-ball to eye-ball with anyone
Jim Mork writes;
Jim has lots of reasons
to assume she was agreeing with him. By the way, it just struck me in
reading his lg diatribe how much he sounds like John Ashcroft.
Crying emergency is the way you enable the idea that civil rights are too
costly (only limousine liberals really
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Jim has lots of reasons
to assume she was agreeing with him. By the way, it just
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I do not for a moment believe Ed Felien has heard all the accounts of
our
While I thank Shawn for joining MADDADS on Franklin and Park I am not sure
his appreciation of horseback cops is justified. They are incredibly
expensive for the results they achieve. Sure they are a great PR tool and
little kids love them, but I am not sure they present more than a symbolic
Dyna, the cost of the paint for your eves is possibly, just possibly,
$50.00. There are neighborhood programs where Val-Spar gives away paint so
possibly the cost is nothing. I have some old paint I should throw away, so
maybe there is a source. It might not be the exact color you like but mix
Something readers might like and that Jon Gorder will probably delight in,
since he had earlier told me off list that they were common and they would
likely be in this neighborhood along Franklin. Today a Red Shouldered Hawk
landed in one of the boulevard trees in front of my house at 21st and
The ying and the yang would have to express my feelings about Mr. Mork's
posting in the wee hours of this morning.
I have to admit that I admired Jim Mork's description of the 1st Avenue
Traffic experiment. The description of the neighborhood process flew as
close to the mark as a written arrow
Jim Brnstein writes that:
There is not one shred of evidence that the
city Minneapolis has fostered a pattern of race-based
discrimination that continues to concentrate black people
and poverty in certain neighborhoods.
Though Mr. Bernstein believes there has NOT been such discrimination on the
David Wilson is correct in more than one way in his post.
The rental video industry had killed the porn movie theater business.
Ferris kept the theaters open to create real estate opportunities and to
have motivated buyers in the form of the City of Minneapolis. Same with his
dirty book stores
Renee Jenson starts her post:
I'm not quite understanding Jim Graham's Point. He wrote:
A Minneapolis specific reply to Mork's suggestion that since people have
guns lying around, mentally ill people may have access to and use
them.Is
Mr. Mork also suggesting that automobiles be outlawed in
I received a call from Steve Cramer late Monday afternoon informing me that
PPL would be starting construction of the PPL-owned Collaborative Village
Initiative the next day (Sept. 23). For those who are not aware of it, this
is the highly controversial supportive housing project that intends to
Jim Mork's post is that strange mix of things you might agree with and
things you shake your head about.
1. Shooting. I doubt very much if the shooting involved a legal gun.
The reason for my doubt is that the news did talk about some past problems
with the St Paul Courts, so it is very
Thank you Mr. Carlson for your dissertation on the housing aspects of
Hollman. While the housing may be built and completed six months late, it
does not mean that the Hollman consent decree no longer has meaning. It in
fact was a major legal action whose impact for social justice continues.
Suing the City:
Jim Mork says,
Whoa, Betsy! Does Doug understand what he's saying here? The city isn't
some alien species, it is Doug, it is me, it is most people on this GROUP!
I have to think MAYBE we can find a better way forward than residents
encouraging groups, especially a group that
Terrel is partially correct. Some neighborhood objections may seem
downright silly. What he misses is that there may be very real objections
that are not silly. Just because someone makes a silly statement does not
mean there are not real and very legitimate objections. What Terrel and
others
MessageMICAH issuing an Affordable Housing Alert is much like the Klan
issuing an alert to racism. It just is not believable coming from an
organization that has made such unethical charges in the past. Remember
this is the organization whose representatives have labeled Neighborhoods
and
I would hope that Amy Klobachar will make good on her commitment (made
verbally to a Democratic Party Convention) to pursue the Sabri-bribery of
Herron matter into State Courts if the Federal case does not go. I would
also hope she is working with the US Attorney on the case as it goes through
If someone thinks the community did not like the Jennings appointment,
watch what happens if Lucy Gerold is appointed over actual qualified
candidates. It would be a very bad joke. And that screaming and yelling
will not be applause that the Mayor and Council will hear. I can not imagine
voting
Well here I am agreeing with Jim Mork again. It is preposterous to think
Minneapolis has the worst Police Officers around. What it is really is the
hyperbole of a few people with axes to grind against Minneapolis Police
officers. The FACTS are that Minneapolis Police Officers are some of the
Anne McCandless says, Shame on you all. At least have the grace to say that
you may be wrong if not sorry.
What a shameful thing to say Anne! Can you imagine the hypocrites taking
their foot out of their mouths let alone shrinking their long self righteous
arm so that they can no longer feel
Good post Bruce!
Bruce Shoemaker makes some very good points about NIMBY rants by some
Affordable Housing advocates. Ethical organizations do in fact work with
neighborhoods and communities to create housing that is both acceptable and
supported by the residents of those communities. In my
While I have in the past been very much been in accord with some of Booker
Hodges' posts (particularly those on abuse and discrimination), I am
troubled by this last one about White Leadership for a couple of reasons.
There really is NO white leadership that speaks for anyone. If anyone said
he
Both David Brauer and Greg Abbott are correct about the building inspectors
in Minneapolis. Minneapolis Building Inspectors, Electrical Inspectors, and
Heating Inspectors are usually very professional and very helpful. Housing
Inspectors are in my experience a whole lot different and I totally
Tim Bonham writes,
If so, you better be prepared for a massive increase in the school taxes
that you 'breeders' pay, since now more than half the money comes from
taxpayers without any children in schools.
Tim, the term Breeder is very derogatory. It is not very different from
the ones that were
Having completed my rant about Tom Leighton's inclusion of Project For Pride
In Living and American Indian Neighborhood Development Corporation in that
list of organizations open to community input. Now let us look at
constructive parts of Tom's post. Tom asks for constructive stories of
Jay Clark raises an important issue and concern about StarTribune coverage.
We can only hope that the paper will assign an equally or more aggressive
reporter to do neighborhoods. The Star Tribune should realize that
community schools are in fact in neighborhoods and what affects
neighborhoods
According to the StarTribune the block E Developer, McCaffery Interests,
appear to be supporting and lobbying for their own candidate for Police
Chief. Given the fiasco of the Block E development and the political
cronyism surrounding that development, it would seem to indicate that
someone might
Jeff has raised an interesting prospect. People with credit problems have
problems obtaining housing therefore they should be punished by not being
allowed to make the same profits from housing as he or some others might.
Or they are punished by fate by not having the luck to find a situation
By golly Barb, I think you have something there. Concentrating poverty,
shelter beds, and special needs housing in poor and minority neighborhoods
is segregation and NOT legal? Yes, it definitely is. I can offer an
explanation for it though. Developers make a lot of money from affordable
I have been waiting for an appeal of my ban from the List, before
continuing to post, but just could not resist Eddie Felien's post. I guess
when you are addicted it truly is hard to resist temptation.
Eddie should consider not putting his butt where someone is already swinging
his or her foot. I
I know people get in trouble addressing a particular person when doing a
Post on the Issues Forum. Perhaps even slander and defamation might be
allowed when done in the third person, or when properly posed as a
question. I remember being outraged when Ed Felien was inappropriately
attacked in
JUNE IS NATIONAL HOMEOWNERSHIP MONTH.
1. WHAT WILL MINNEAPOLIS DO DURING THIS MONTH?
--How many homeownership opportunities will Minneapolis announce it is
creating to commemorate the month?
--How many families will be stabilized and lifted out of poverty by
homeownership?
--Will Minneapolis
If Chris Johnson and Vicky Heller are both saying there are cost savings
that could be made, and waste that could be cut out, then there is a good
possibility one could surmise (by triangulation from such different
perspectives) that indeed it could be and probably IS true!
Anyone who has driven
Is it at all possible that more than just the Republicans are at fault for
there not being sufficient resources to have adequate policing of our
troubled and Impacted Neighborhoods? Could it be that the City Mothers
and Fathers simply have other priorities for spending the tax payers
dollars?
John,
your supposition that there is less gang violence because their is less
conflict for territory is correct. Also when the heat of the shoot-ups of
97 brought U.S Attorney David Lillehaug armed with the BATF, DEA, and other
Federal Agencies down on Gang leadership then the word went out that
This announcement is foolish indeed. Even if the Mayor and the Council
intend this unwise action they should not announce it! Why don't the City
Leaders just put up a Welcome Thugs and Drugs signs at the airport! Drug
dealers in other cities already view Minneapolis as the land of Milk and
Money.
Mark Wilde writes,
How was he filling orders? Did he bring the drugs
with him from Chicago? This is the kind of a friend
of a friend told me story that really doesn't make
any sense when you think about it.
While I agree with most of the rest of this post, this
story really get me mad
I agree with Tom Thompson, since we are allowing 'Legal Substances' to be
banned, why not use this police power as a precedent. Let's give our CM's
the power to ban other harmful things. Since we are banning things for
health reasons, and for the good of all, because of their affects upon
others,
This afternoon I advised Barb Lickness about how to possibly insure that her
Neighbor from hell house was not for a third time rented to problem
people. I suggested that she help the owner by sending them a registered
letter with the State Statute on Disorderly House or state statute 609.33
from
From: NICHOLAS FRANK Don't need condos in North Loop
A lot of the developmennt over the past 6 years has been on vacant lots
and parking lots, not things worth trying to preserve. A lot of the
Loft conversions have taken place in buildings that were partially or
mostly abandoned.
Paul Weir writes, On this rainy Sunday morning, I had the edifying
experience of
witnessing something straight out of Al Capone's Chicago.
Brother Paul's experience this weekend with the rolling thunder through
his neighborhood reminds me again of the attitudes many have about some of
our
Great post Dan.
There are of course other funding possibilities for a library. The example
of the funds raised for the temporary library during the time the Franklin
Library is closed for reconstruction is an example of such. If a community
truly wants that resource to continue the community
Chris writes:
Why stop at just closing the Walker and the Northeast Library, and
likewise some public schools? Let's close all the branch libraries and
invest all that money into making our new downtown library even better.
Close all of the schools and create one large mega-school in one
Thank you Doug, for your clarification.
Yes Doug, you are correct about the Bossen area. I can remember a time when
the delivery drivers for a business I ran considered that area to be almost
as bad as the area around Lake Street. I can understand the frustration
someone would have at not
Since it is not Murderapolis should we instead call it Rapeapolis or
some other marketing title to denote the lucrative drug sales opportunities?
Minneapolis had the distinction of having one of the highest rape rates for
major cities in the United States for several years. Of course that is
Gina Palandri is very correct about parking. However, it is not the
responsibility of the LRT to fund the Critical Parking Permits. I should
be the responsibility of our own City. The City of Minneapolis has created
the parking problem through zoning variances, building permits, and
development
Apparently, neither existing zoning ordinances nor contracts for the purchase of city
property mean anything if you own a City Council member. An example of this is taking
place in the Whittier Neighborhood. The Elroy block was purchased from the City of
Minneapolis with a conditional deed that
For those who do not know, last night the proposed Elroy site developers did
NOT get approval from the Planning Commission for the Conditional Use Plan
they had submitted. The matter has been carried over while several issues
including Ownership are being Investigated for the Planning Commission.
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By way of information and to address some of your parking/occupancy
questions
David Brauer writes:
Bottom line: the MAC has to spend the money somewhere. Better on the
people affected by noise than on a facility that's already overbuilt
(and it is overbuilt, in gates, parking, etc.)
I am bothered by the idea has to spend the money somewhere. It's as if
some believe the
Mike writes:
What do to now? Is it worth trying to unseat a council member (or two) in
order to undo the ban?
I would say no. There are more important issues than the smoking ban.
But, it might be fun to try.
Mike you are in a ward (the Tenth) that will be changing anyway, but some
Will Minneapolis allow a person seen on television news attempting to bribe
a Minneapolis City Council Member, (and still presumably under indictment
for that crime), to successfully acquire City of Minneapolis property under
possibly fraudulent conditions?
A Deed with Conditions constitutes a
What has happened to Abdul Kadri Hashi is more than injustice; it is an
outrage!
At the last Minneapolis Planning Commission a Mr. Abdul Kadri Hashi gave
public testimony about the parking problems surrounding the Karmel Square
Shopping Mall. It is instructive to look at what happened afterwards.
David,
I would prefer to not get involved in this debate. But for your, and some
others, information landlords have in the past attempted to share
information, or pool as you suggest. They were jumped on heavily by
tenant advocate groups for doing so. Almost considered an anti-trust
matter with
Jay Clark is right on when he says, Just as government had the
responsibility to put in sound barriers - at no charge to the neighbors -
for those living closest to the highway, government also has the
responsibility to provide - at no charge to the neighbors - permit parking
for impacted
On street parking may not be either necessary nor sufficient for good
street life, for larger businesses or for new business developments, but
off street parking is absolutely essential for the life of small businesses.
Lake Street is lined with such business. They are created with the idea
that
Shawn Lewis requests suggestions for addressing the murder and gang violence
problem that is presently afflicting the Northside. Perhaps I can make a
couple, but they are going to be long, and they are not new. I think I even
pointed out that Minneapolis sometimes has as many Americans shot on a
Keith is correct, the excuse that the jails are too full has always been a
myth. Dyna should look more towards the Hennepin County judges. They are
up for election, so everyone make sure to vote. Call a couple of
prosecutors and ask their opinion of those running, and remember if you do
not
Greg is correct, actually there does not seem to be any who was right and
who was wrong. The Doctor was completely within his right to await a
written order, after all that is what is called process. Anyone can make
a call. What would have happened if it had not been a judge who was
calling?
Dwight Hobbs is so correct about the Black Community needing to be up in
arms at the idea of cutting the police force. Crime and inadequate police
service most impacts upon the poor communities of color in Minneapolis. The
very areas where Minneapolis has either through chance or design
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