Local shop has the sigma 17-70 SG OS for $280.
(I could cover a third of that by selling my 18-55WR.)
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perfect (some different adjustment would improve performance), but is
useable as a zoom lens.
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From: CollinB
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 6:38 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Should I buy it?
Local shop has the sigma 17-70 SG OS for $280.
(I could cover
Typo: DG.
I'm hesitating since it's not the newer EX.
Reviews are so-so.
Still, it would be an improvement over the 18-55, but I'm questioning if it
is enough to justify.
Seems to be a 'tweener' -- better but how much.
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So it looks like the one I could not use well.
Before buying, try it on your camera and then inspect focus carefully.
Dario
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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:09 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Should I buy it?
Typo: DG.
I'm hesitating since it's
On 3/28/2014 1:38 PM, CollinB wrote:
Local shop has the sigma 17-70 SG OS for $280.
(I could cover a third of that by selling my 18-55WR.)
So that would be $93.33 (plus whatever shipping, etc) for the 18-55WR?
[$280/3]?
DIBS!
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on 2014-03-28 12:09 CollinB wrote
Typo: DG.
I'm hesitating since it's not the newer EX.
Reviews are so-so.
Still, it would be an improvement over the 18-55, but I'm questioning if it
fwiw, the Sigma 17-70 isn't on this list, but noting the position of the Pentax
16-45, and the fact that a
This review is worth a read too
http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-16-50-vs-sigma-tamron-17-50mm/introduction.html
On 29 March 2014 11:41, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
on 2014-03-28 12:09 CollinB wrote
Typo: DG.
I'm hesitating since it's not the newer EX.
Reviews are
On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Gautam Sarup wrote:
Actually, I'd be curious to know how many use more than one spot.
I normally leave the DS in automated multi-spot AF mode, with pattern
metering enabled along with AF-AE linking, in Av exposure mode. When
I disagree with the focus points
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:55:21 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
I find it easier to focus using the center AF spot, recompose and shoot
than to fiddle with a switch and a knob to change the focus point, then
press the shutter etc. or let the camera pick a spot.
Me too, not that I use AF much but
I change the autofocus spot manually in respect to what I'm shooting.
If I'm shooting people on the street, for example, I'll shoot in
vertical mode and choose a spot toward the top of frame. With practice,
one can become rather adept at moving the spot around frame with the
little joystick
Why at those times?
I don't understand the concept of multiple AF points (not that you said you
used that setup). If there are three or five or more active points, it
would seem that the camera would decide what's in focus. How does one
control the main focus point when shooting with multiple
, February 23, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Question: Should I buy an ist D?
Why at those times?
I don't understand the concept of multiple AF points (not that you said
you
used that setup). If there are three or five or more active points, it
would seem that the camera would decide what's in focus
Paul Stenquist wrote:
I change the autofocus spot manually in respect to what I'm shooting. If
I'm shooting people on the street, for example, I'll shoot in vertical
mode and choose a spot toward the top of frame. With practice, one can
become rather adept at moving the spot around frame with
On the D, and I would guess on the other variants as well, you can set the
autofocus for manual selection of the autofocus point. The point can then be
selected with the little joystick button.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shel,
With Pentax cameras you have the option of letting the camera pick the
active AF point automatically, or picking it yourself. There's never
more than one point actually determining focus (Although the other
points are used in Automatic mode to determine if the subject is moving
and
Gautam Sarup wrote:
On 2/21/06, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I find 45 focus points laughable: the CPU must spend a huge amount of
time analysing the optimum focus distance from all those inputs!
I may be missing something there though and I'd be happy for someone to
explain the
You went from shooting digital back to shooting 35mm?
Could you tell us about that?
Rick
--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I had my D, I usually left it locked to the
centre point,
occasionally choosing another. I almost never used
Auto point selection,
which almost always
Performance and (primarily) equipment compatibility were the reasons.
The tipping point was doing a studio shoot with my Camera Club (the TPMG
here in Toronto) where I couldn't use one of the lighting setups because
of it being Canon wireless (The club is something like 90% Canon
shooters).
--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
When I had my D, I usually left it locked to the
centre point,
occasionally choosing another. I almost never used
Auto point selection,
which almost always picked the worst possible point.
-Adam
Same
What interests me is that you went back to film rather
than going from Pentax digital to Canon digital.
--- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Performance and (primarily) equipment compatibility
were the reasons.
The tipping point was doing a studio shoot with my
Camera Club (the TPMG
-- Original message --
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking to add a serious MF kit to my mix as well, probably Bronica
SQ stuff (Pentax unfortunatly doesn't offer 6x6 kit)
Of course you can crop the Pentax 6x7 to 6x6 when you wish and still have
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Adam Maas wrote:
I'm looking to add a serious MF kit to my mix as well, probably Bronica SQ
stuff (Pentax unfortunatly doesn't offer 6x6 kit)
Is 6x7 radically different?
Curious,
Kostas
While I like the Digital workflow, the longer I had the D, the more I
shot film, the only time I really shot digital was for colour or really
low-light work. Note that I'm primarily a BW shooter (70-80%) and do my
own developing/scanning/printing, so the cost benefit to Digital just
isn't
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Adam Maas wrote:
I'm looking to add a serious MF kit to my mix as well, probably
Bronica SQ stuff (Pentax unfortunatly doesn't offer 6x6 kit)
Is 6x7 radically different?
Curious,
Kostas
The body is too big (I like the little boxes of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking to add a serious MF kit to my mix as well, probably Bronica
SQ stuff (Pentax unfortunatly doesn't offer 6x6 kit)
Of course you can crop the Pentax 6x7 to 6x6 when
On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
I'm looking to add a serious MF kit to my mix as well, probably
Bronica SQ stuff (Pentax unfortunatly doesn't offer 6x6 kit)
Of course you can crop the Pentax 6x7 to 6x6 when you wish and
still have the option of a rectangular format when that
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
I'm looking to add a serious MF kit to my mix as well, probably
Bronica SQ stuff (Pentax unfortunatly doesn't offer 6x6 kit)
Of course you can crop the Pentax 6x7 to 6x6 when you wish and still
have the option of a
On 2/23/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I change the autofocus spot manually in respect to what I'm shooting.
[...]
Paul,
That makes sense. Unfortunately, on the MZ-S you have to
push a little switch and rotate a knob. That was too difficult
for me to manage especially given the
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Hi Shel - responses interspersed
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't see it that way, but then I'm not constantly fiddling
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For panoramas, WB should not be in Auto.
Only if you're shooting JPEGs.
If it is, the WB may very well change from shot to shot, and you'll never
the the same value/WB in all the frames of a sequence.
Unless you're shooting in RAW mode, in which case you
John Coyle wrote:
What Mark said, in spades! And I would just add that the burying of
control features such as white balance and spot metering in the menu
system in the DS/DL variants was a big mistake, IMO. I modify these
settings frequently enough so that it would be a real PITA to have to
It's really very simple. Where are you now? What feels comfortable? What are
you going to shoot after your spurt?
If you are coming from the ability to use Hyper mode, you'll miss it on any
other body than the D. (Surprise, this was the key reason I spent the extra
money.0
How does it feel
On 2/21/06, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I find 45 focus points laughable: the CPU must spend a huge amount of
time analysing the optimum focus distance from all those inputs!
I may be missing something there though and I'd be happy for someone to
explain the benefits to me...
On 22 Feb 2006 at 22:43, Gautam Sarup wrote:
On 2/21/06, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I find 45 focus points laughable: the CPU must spend a huge amount of
time analysing the optimum focus distance from all those inputs!
I may be missing something there though and I'd be happy
Folks,
I've been on the digital fence for some time, and
had pretty much decided to buy the ist D successor
when it becomes available.
I'm getting itchy, though, since it doesn't look as
though the new body will be here by summer.
In May and June, a niece is getting married, I'm going
to GFM,
Rick Womer wrote:
Folks,
I've been on the digital fence for some time, and
had pretty much decided to buy the ist D successor
when it becomes available.
I'm getting itchy, though, since it doesn't look as
though the new body will be here by summer.
In May and June, a niece is getting
Yes. The digital workflow isn't a problem once you get used to it. I shoot
events now as favors for friends that I never would have done with film. I shot
a baby shower the other day. Processed 20 of the 50 RAWs I shot in about 20
minutes. Spent another ten minutes putting them up on a web page
Worth it? That's something only you can decide.
As for the digital workflow, well, this morning I was working on some
pics I shot a few months ago, and was reminded how easy and pleasurable it
is to use digital. Using a digital camera can be a nice experience and a
good compliment to film.
Hello Rick,
In a word, YES. I have two of them and am very happy with them. They
do have the issue of buffer size and write speed, but I have managed
to shoot many weddings with my pair, along with sports and other
events. I do believe that my photography has improved because of the
ability to
The D has a few more features and shares the viewfinder with the *ist
DS/DS2 models, but the image quality it produces is identical to the
image quality produced by all of them, including the DL model. DL
bodies are available for under $500 new. The DS through DL2 are all a
little faster
Used prices on the D are a little ridiculous, I payed less for my D
($899CDN), with a D-BG than it's going for used these days.
-Adam
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The D has a few more features and shares the viewfinder with the *ist
DS/DS2 models, but the image quality it produces is identical
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Emne: Question: Should I buy an ist D?
Folks,
I've been on the digital fence for some time, and
had pretty much decided to buy the ist D successor
when it becomes available.
I'm getting itchy, though, since it doesn't look as
though
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:24:11AM -0800, Rick Womer wrote:
Folks,
S... I can probably pick up a used ist D for
$700-800, looking at the recent prices on eBay and
KEH.
Worth it?
You can (theoretically) get a new, warrantied DS/DS2 for that.
Which to get depends on what is important
Hi,
Speaking for myself, yes, I was pretty happy with the DS layout, but,
having used a few D cameras, I think I'd prefer it's control system..
However, it's not worth the extra $700.00 for that feature, at least to me.
Also, I bought the DS as an introductory camera to digital, to see what I
This one time, at band camp, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The *ist
D is an old camera - not so fast AF,
really? what changed??
Kind regards
Kevin
--
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Fast AF is not a Pentax feature. The AF's decent, but I couldn't call it
fast.
-Adam
Kevin Waterson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The *ist
D is an old camera - not so fast AF,
really? what changed??
Kind regards
Kevin
On Feb 21, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
I've been on the digital fence for some time, and
had pretty much decided to buy the ist D successor
when it becomes available.
If its the same size as the D2x's and MKII's, start lifting weghts.
A big Yes. I have a ist D now for 6 months and pondered for maybe two
years if I would make the switch, I didn't regret it for a second.
I also got a 5400 minolta scanner to digitize my older films and I am
not impressed with the scan workflow and scan quality. 6 mp raw was a
big surprise for me.
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This one time, at band camp, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The *ist
D is an old camera - not so fast AF,
really? what changed??
Kind regards
Kevin
--
Democracy is two wolves
From: John Francis
Shel Godfrey, though - both photographers who demand a lot
of control over their cameras - are happy with the one wheel
(and a shift button) style of control. The larger screen,
and the smaller RAW files, are other benefits of the DS models.
I personally prefer the simpler
Jens Bladt wrote:
But if I was starting from scratch, I'm quite certain I'd go
elsewhere.
A lot of photographers do, you know.
PDML = Pentax Defection Mailing List.
A lot of people shifted both before AND after the launch of the *ist D. I
didn't regret buying mine then or now - it does what
Rick,
As most everyone knows, I'm a bit of a film junkie. However, at the
camera clinic last year Vinny Colluci gave a very convincing lecture
on the the benefits of using digital for event shooting. Paul's reply
touched on that same subject.
My two cents: Buy the camera. If you decide you
I haven't tried the other Pentax digitals so I can't offer a comparison,
but I have been using an ist-D for two years now and can offer my
thoughts on that. This comes at a good time because I've been wanting to
put my thoughts on the subject into words for some time now and it seems
as if an
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Jens Bladt wrote:
But if I was starting from scratch, I'm quite certain I'd go
elsewhere.
A lot of photographers do, you know.
PDML = Pentax Defection Mailing List.
A lot
Yes.
That's not expensive if it's in good condition. If you don't abuse it,
you probably will get the same price if you sell it half a year later.
You get a genuine Power grip for the istD, which isn't available for the
successors. Wish I had the money, and I feel as if I wrote this before.
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
JB Fra: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB Sendt: 21. februar 2006 22:15
JB Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
JB Emne: RE: Question: Should I buy an ist D?
JB Jens Bladt wrote:
But if I was starting from scratch, I'm quite certain I'd go
elsewhere.
A lot
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Jens Bladt wrote:
But if I was starting from scratch, I'm quite certain I'd go
elsewhere.
A lot of photographers do, you know.
PDML = Pentax Defection Mailing List.
A lot of people shifted both before AND after the launch of the *ist D. I
didn't regret buying mine
On 21 Feb 2006 at 7:24, Rick Womer wrote:
S... I can probably pick up a used ist D for
$700-800, looking at the recent prices on eBay and
KEH.
Worth it?
I don't think so, If I was starting out on the digital path now I'd be looking
for a cheap *ist DS or DS2, it will likely be cheaper
://www.jensbladt.dk
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 21. februar 2006 23:16
Til: Jens Bladt
Emne: Re: Question: Should I buy an ist D?
Hello Jens,
I'll go halfway with you. I have paying customers all the time.
Using a Pentax *istD has not had
At 12:35 PM -0500 2/21/06, John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:24:11AM -0800, Rick Womer wrote:
Folks,
S... I can probably pick up a used ist D for
$700-800, looking at the recent prices on eBay and
KEH.
Worth it?
You can (theoretically) get a new, warrantied DS/DS2 for
: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Question: Should I buy an ist D?
I haven't tried the other Pentax digitals so I can't offer a comparison,
but I have been using an ist-D for two years now and can offer my
thoughts on that. This comes at a good time because I've been wanting
No. The DS and the DS2 have a stainless steel frame.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Steve Sharpe
Doesn't the D have a metal chassis while the DS/DS2 are plastic?
On Feb 21, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
Doesn't the D have a metal chassis while the DS/DS2 are plastic?
Both the DS and DS2 have a steel frame with polycarbonate outer
coverings.
Godfrey
I don't see it that way, but then I'm not constantly fiddling around with
the settings.
Actually, if left on Auto, white balance never needs to be touched, and
even if it's set to the wrong balance, it's a simple movement of a slider
in ACR (and, I suppose, other RAW converters) to bring the WB
That is good news. How about the DL?
At 3:44 PM -0800 2/21/06, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
No. The DS and the DS2 have a stainless steel frame.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Steve Sharpe
Doesn't the D have a metal chassis while the DS/DS2 are plastic?
--
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul. I am hoping between my own learning curve and tapping the collective at
GFM on how
to go about
this PS Browser, Raw batch proccessing will eventually come to me. Right now i
have 100
Raws to
proccess and get out with some effects by the 28th, i can't really spend time
experimenting. I
Yes, that too, and, most likely, the DL2 as well. Can't imagine that
changing at this point.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Steve Sharpe
That is good news. How about the DL?
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
No. The DS and the DS2 have a stainless steel frame.
[Original Message]
From: Steve
accepted by the team the church.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: Question: Should I buy an ist D?
That's very good. I agree with most of what you said.
But I get more
Some one said this:
If I was asked to document a ballgame - I'd simply have to say: Thank you
very much, but no thanks!
Than Ken said this:
You should say yes.
I shot several softball games for my church with my *istD this past summer
had
As of right now, I'm planning on coming to GFM. I'll be happy to help
you with some RAW conversion. I'll have my notebook as well.
Paul
On Feb 21, 2006, at 7:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul. I am hoping between my own learning curve and tapping the
collective at GFM on how
to go
As of right now, I'm planning on
coming to GFM. I'll be happy to help
you with some RAW conversion. I'll have my notebook as well.
Paul
On Feb 21, 2006, at 7:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PHE
G
Dave
is a convenience. When it comes to capturing the moment, you
better turn it off.
Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
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Sendt: 22. februar 2006 02:12
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Question: Should I buy an ist D
Hi Shel - responses interspersed
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't see it that way, but then I'm not constantly fiddling around with
the settings.
Actually, if left on Auto, white balance never needs to be touched, and
I have the Sigma APO Macro 70-300 f4-5.6. Consumer lenses in this class
tend to be weak somewhere, usually at the long end. This Sigma is
perhaps the best in class, but weaker at 300 mm. At 300 mm. you have to
go to f16 to get truly sharp images (which usually means a tripod).
Otherwise images
From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sigma 70-300 DL
All the best!
Raimo
Which one?
There are currently two Sigma 70-300 DL:s.
1. Sigma DL Macro Super
2. Sigma DL Super APO 2.
Thanks,
Lasse
.
Thanks,
Lasse
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From: jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
Quoting Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price
level
From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
I'd recommend one of the Sigma APO lenses. I think there is a 70-300/4-5.6
that's supposed to be pretty good.
So I've heard. But which model
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
In a message dated 6/19/2003 2:01:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Thanks guys, but super quality has since
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From: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF
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Päivä: 20. kesäkuuta 2003 8:11
Aihe: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy?
From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sigma 70-300 DL
All the best!
Raimo
Which one?
There are currently two Sigma 70-300 DL:s.
1. Sigma DL Macro Super
2. Sigma DL Super APO 2.
Thanks
I second that motion.
I also own and use this lens. It is wonderful and goes 1:2 macro from
180-300mm, quite handy. I have been impressed with it's optical quality. It
is a tad slow when focusing. A bonus--- it does not suffer from zoom
creep.
Robert
Subject: Re: Which 300 zoom should I buy
I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at
the long end?
Anyone on the list wanting to sell?
Thanks,
Lasse
I haven't kept up to date on what has been
released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at
the
long end?
Anyone on the list wanting to sell?
Thanks,
Lasse
I have a Sigma 100-300 AF lens in good
In a message dated 6/19/2003 2:01:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Thanks guys, but super quality has since long been, and will be for some
time to come way beyond my budget capacity, so to speak... Furthermore, for
the shooting I'm thinking of, I will definitely need
Sigma 70-300 DL
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Päivä: 19. kesäkuuta 2003 18:24
Aihe: Which 300 zoom should I buy
Quoting Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price
level but with good resolution at the long end?
Here's a suggestion, and some reasoning to go behind it gasp!.
Particularly since you metioned consumer price level, I'd have to suggest the
very
I made a mistake...
and these three all taken at the long end, (300mm or higher) wide open.
actually, only the first two were with this lens, the last one (which actually
doesn't look as sharp / well focused) was with a prime.
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
I haven't kept up to date on what has been released lately.
Any suggestions on a 70-300 zoom AF, consumer price level but with good resolution at
the long end?
Anyone on the list wanting to sell?
Hi Lasse:
I have an SMC Pentax-FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6 in mint condition that I
I've got the 2.5 Takumar bayonet (not the SMC), and it's not a bad lens.
Fairly sharp, but since it's not multi-coated, I expect it might flare; I've not
had that problem yet, because so far I've only shot with the sun at my back
(since I know it's not SMC).
I think it's thought of as a dog
Well taking lots of pics and buying various stuff has finally rubbed off on
my girlfriend.. She wants a camera too..
Of course she's gonna get a pentax, the only problem is: what do I buy for
her.. Of course I'm still a cheap sob so I don't wanna buy a camera that's
too expensive.
I got an
I have one as a backup and it's basically a Pz-1p with
out steriods
--- Rogier van der Peijl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well taking lots of pics and buying various stuff
has finally rubbed off on
my girlfriend.. She wants a camera too..
Of course she's gonna get a pentax, the only problem
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