From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My point: YOU CAN'T NOT GET PERSONAL. ONE OUGHT NOT SEPARATE THE TRUTH
SPOKEN
FROM THE TRUTH SPEAKEROUGHT ONE?
Lance, I do not agree with you.
There are really two levels of ad hominem that occur on TT. One with the
intent to sway an argument,
.
However, our being in a fallen state, imperfect, and still being sinners, as
you have pointed out, we need moderating.
Perry the Moderator
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 10, 2005 10:14
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk
then, Mr. Moderator that
this description would include David Miller?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 10, 2005 13:18
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sinless Perfection.htm
From: Lance Muir:
Mr. Moderator: God alone knows
From: Lance Muir:
Fair enough, Perry. Consider yourself asked.
Okay, Lance, here we go.
I believe that we were sinners prior to our being forgiven, and that we
are sinners still. That did not change. What DID change is that when we
placed our faith in Christ, our sins, past, present, and
Judy and Terry,
There is a position that says those that let go or slip from their
moorings were never truly saved in the first place. This position preserves
once saved always saved. How do you respond to this position?
Perry
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
Blaine, I responded to this post...did you miss it?
Perry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the Bible
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:44:39 EDT
Blaine: I think you may have batted one to right field, with
Judy, how does the fact that Jesus asked if the cup could be removed, but
then said thy will be done? Was that a moment of weakness or resistance,
followed by submission? That does not sound like rejoicing to me.
Perry
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
David,
I am very interested in hearing what Blaine's account of my and Kevin's
Jesus reveals to you. Do you mind expanding on that?
Perry
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry's/Kevin's
Blaine,
At the time the King James Version was translated it is possible that the
meaning of perfect was appropriate due to it's denotation at that time,
but has evolved to mean something slightly different today.
That idea is not the same as the Bible being translated incorrectly.
Lance,
Habakkuk Chapter 1 is instrumental in helping us understand how God can
use one nation to judge another, as he used the Chaldeans to judge Judah.
The Chaldeans had no idea that God was using them...they just did what came
naturally to them. There were probably a few Lances in some
The moderator commends your restraint.
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:56:12 -0400
The bishop of Hippo would be my least
Blaine,
I see much evidence that the word can mean complete. Check out the 3
following references.
A. From The Complete Word Study Dictionary, New Testament (Zodhiates), p.
1372, entry 5046 (strongs), section III, in describing teleios (perfect)
as translated in Mathew 5:48 , it states,
Hey, why is everyone sending birthday greetings to Izzy in VERY LARGE TYPE?
Happy Birthday. Izzy.
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy Birthday
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:46:26 -0400
Happy Birthday,
BlainerB, my friend, you have demonstrated your misconceptions of our
beliefs about Jesus, some of which appears to be based on what others on TT
may believe about Jesus, not what we believe. Lance was wise in asking you
to outline our differences...it has revealed much.
Perry
From:
John,
What say ye of those who never believed that Jesus is the Son of God, or
that he died for their sins, or that they even need a savior, and who never
repented?
While we know that Jesus atoned for thier sins, too, they may not even
know that, and if they do, may not believe it,
Lance,
It takes diligence on the part of the posters to recognize when the topic
has strayed from the original subject, and to change it in the subject line.
All TT members, please pay attention to the subject line and change it when
you notice that the topic has changed. One way to tell
I have read that the word perfect in 1611 meant what complete means to
us today. Try rereading that verse with complete in place of perfect and
see if it sounds any different to you.
Do we have anyone on TT that can confirm what I have read regarding the
denotation of the word perfect in
Typo; 396 years, not 496!
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the Bible
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:19:51 -0700
I have read that the word perfect in 1611 meant what complete means
John and Kevin,
I think it is time to end this tit-for-tat conversation that contains
negative implications, ad-hominem commetns, and otherwise hatful statements.
I know you guys disagree, you know you guys disagree, and everyone on TT
knows you guys disagree. If you wish to continue this
John, are you using Word, or other editor, to prepare your posts? Word has a
Track Changes feature that shows deleted lines as strikethroughs. It may
have become enabled. (Look under Tools-Track Changes)
Perry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To:
Izzy, I regard your comment as an unnecessary and opportunistic attack on
JD. He and Kevin are doing fine...don't stir the pot, please. They can do
okay without your antagonistic comments.
Perry
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To:
This is a standard mormon example. it is invalid. God is not buying you a
bicycle. How utterly mormon to compare a material worldy example to the
grace of God.
Perry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus
Judy,
From your previous posts I believe that you said you prefer the use of
the word Godhead to Trinity since Trinity is not found in the Bible.
However, the mormons also use the word godhead to mean three separate and
distinct gods. Don't you think the term Trinity encompasses a real
the spiritual nature of God.
To me Trinity
with the procession that comes out of Nicea is more akin to three
separate ppl (gods) than the
word Paul uses in the book of Romans. jt
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:48:42 -0700 Charles Perry Locke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy,
From your previous posts I
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To answer your question. I would demonstrate the Godhead this way: God the
Father has the thought
God the Word speaks it into existence
God the Spirit carries it out
I have heard this in a slightly different way: God designed it, the Word
created it, and
Terry, how many spirits do you think God has?
Perry
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:09:51 -0500
Judy Taylor wrote:
On
I would like to think so. In most cases I try not to tell people what to do
about it...I like to point out what I see as ad hominem arguments and let
them make the decision about how to handle it, as the spirit leads them (if,
indeed, it does). If it is a blatant intentional violation I will be
TT members,
I have been contacted by email privately and informed that my referring
to DaveH as a sly ol' mormon boy was an ad hominem reference. After some
discussion back and forth, and some research, I am convinced that it is so
and that I need to apologize to Dave.
I previously
-- are these ad hominem arguments acceptable forms of
argumentation on TruthTalk?
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:03 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant **
TT members,
I have been
!
Perry
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant **
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:08:32 -0500
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
TT members,
I have been contacted by email privately and informed
and then, to cover his crime, had him sent to
the front lines to be murdered -- I think you should go for it.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk
... but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto
men. - JC, the rest of Matt 12:31.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant **
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:48:28 -0600
..
-0700 Charles Perry Locke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. - JC, the rest of Matt 12:31.
||
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man
TT members,
As an experiment I opened a private Yahoo group called TruthTalk_Polls.
I thought it would be interesting to hold truthtalk polls occasionally. With
so few posting, it may prove to be useless, but we can give it a try. A
yahoo group also has chat and other capabilities. I have
I was moderating when Elsman was on, and I think it is better to let
sleeping dogs (and false prophets) lie (so to speak).
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
CC: Jennifer Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL
Great feedback.Let me check it out. I was trying to avoid allowing public
membership.
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truthtalk Polls
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:04:11 -0400
Perry wrote:
As an
To join the TruthTalk_Polls Yahoo group, go to this link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/TruthTalk_Polls
Enter your email address and you will be sent instructions on how to join
the group.
Perry
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
IMO = in my opinion,
IMHO = in my humble opinion
From: Marlin halverson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Blainerb back from Jackson Hole Wyoming
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:33:47 -0400
What is IMO? I've seen this
Marlin, there is a list of common email abbreviations on the innglory
discussions page you can reference if you like:
http://innglory.org/discussions.htm
Perry
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re
Lance,
I agree that Every christian believer believes 'through' an errant
framework. But how errant is too errant? Is there a line that can be drawn?
In the end either we are saved or we are not. Was our framework too
errant? Was our image of Jesus too far from the real Jesus? If we are too
all agree about Scripture if we have the Holy Spirit within us? (I can
predict some people's answer to this.)
Debbie
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
:43 -0400
This is true! But that's just the point: the Sasquatch doesn't walk in,
because he doesn't exist.
Debbie
- Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
as he explained to you in a parallel post today Perry. But
I do find it amusing that you continue to criticize Mormons for having dual
meanings when you do the same thing with the term *anti-Mormon.*
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DAVEH wrote:
May I presume you believe free agency existed
: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:32:34 -0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
And who defined anti-mormon to mean anti-mormonsim? You said the
mormons did.
DAVEH: I did??? Are you sure about that, Perry? I don't recall saying
such, but it is pretty synonymous, IMO. Have
Dave,
DAVEH: That's an interesting perspective, DavidM. Since there is not a
lot of detail explained about his life prior to his baptism, I wonder if
you aren't presupposing his ability to do miracles simply because none are
recorded.
Dave, is the above statement logically the same as
We are mixing apples and oranges, Dave.
Jesus does have a resurrected body, but the God Father is Spirit... that
is, He ain't got no body.
Didn't you tell me in a previous post that we woud discuss these things
based on the Bible? And, didn't you ask if I thought God (the Father) had a
of Mormon theology since Joseph Smith was
alive,
it amazes me that you know so little concerning one another's actual
beliefs.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 25, 2005 14:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
We
] Is Perry an Anti-Mormon?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:43:44 -0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Here is the Google definition you sent.
Anti-Mormonism is an overt opposition to Mormonism, often specifically
to Mormonism's largest and most prominent sect, The Church of Jesus Christ
Dave, call me anything you want, okay. Whatever floats your boat.
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Perry an Anti-Mormon?
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:18:54 -0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote
on this Perry. Did you give me those
references in the past week or two? Or are you talking about many months
ago? Would you mind posting them again, please? Maybe it will jog my
memory.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
For example the word 'god'. Dave asked me if I could find any verses
DAVEH wrote:
May I presume you believe free agency existed in the pre-mortal
existence?
DavidM responded: Yes.
Perry cautioned:
David, be careful here. When a mormon says pre-mortal existence I believe
they mean a little more than you may know. To the mormon I believe that to
say
Acts 1 will describe why and how they picked Matthias.
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:24:05 -0700
DAVEH: I should probably wait for the Bishop to explain
@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the Bible
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:39:46 -0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave, it appears that you conveniently chose the similarities to focus on.
DAVEH: I chose 3.two of which we agreed, and one that we did
related, as well) of Jeff
Lindsay's treatise on the accusation...
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Relationships.shtml
..Hopefully that will put the discussion in the proper perspective.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
So, David, you admit that you DO believe that Satan and Jesus
related, as well) of Jeff
Lindsay's treatise on the accusation...
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Relationships.shtml
..Hopefully that will put the discussion in the proper perspective.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
So, David, you admit that you DO believe that Satan and Jesus
Terry, thanks for your impressions. Amen.
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Goofy
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:17:51 -0500
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Tery, after reading the apology
Pamela, you are now unsubscribed. Feel free to return anytime.
Perry the Moderator
From: pamela linsday [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Eternal Sonship
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:31:31 -0400 (EDT)
CAN SOMEONE TELL
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave, it appears that you conveniently chose the similarities to focus
on.
DAVEH: I chose 3.two of which we agreed, and one that we did not. I
did it as a simple example to demonstrate a principle. That I may or may
not believe the things you say
Dave, I have never minded you teaching on mormonism...I have only objected
to your denying that you do so...but our differences are setted...you admit
below that you are teaching mormonism on TT, which I don't mind, but you can
never again say you don't.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL
So, David, you admit that you DO believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers
(although you did not say it directly, following your somewhat circular
argument, you implied it)? Why all the hoopla just to confirm that? Why all
the questioning whether Terry really believes it, or if he believes it
Sorry, guys. I couldn't resist this.
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
I am saying we were commanded to GO and sinful
seeing
much of that on TT.other than he created the world, was born of a
virgin, died and was resurrected.all of which I believe. Is there
more you (TTers) want to say about your belief about Jesus?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
I think you are right. You are entitled to your
correctly?
JD
-Original Message-
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:02:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Dave,
I think you are right. You are entitled to your jesus, and the onus is
on us to prove him
There are several members of Truth Talk that are signed up, but have
never posted. We affectionately call you lurkers.
For all who are lurking on TT, you are always welcome to come and go as
you please. Posting is not required.
If anyone who is signed up and prefers not to post
Lance, sounds like a reasonable offer from Judy to resolve your current
issue. Can you demonstrate such from scripture? If not, then using the term
heretical for Judy's understanding does not seem warranted.
Perry
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To:
adequately explained
why I said what I did. If you want clarification, just ask.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Wait a minute! I agree with you and then you tell me I have it
backwards? How does that work?
You said, Logically, the onus is not upon me to define the Jesus I
believe
respond to Terry's questions without having my
beliefs denigrated by one who is openly antagonistic to my beliefs.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
This is what I have learned. I believe it to be so, but I may not
have all accurately stated all of the details. You often tell me I am
, 20 Jun 2005 01:31:59 -0400
1. Christ
2. Water
-Original Message-
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:35:41 -0700
Subject: [TruthTalk] Who is he?
I have been studying Mark 16:14-20, and have two open questions for all TT
answer to these
two questions?
Perry
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is he?
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:11:33 -0400
And? This 'insight' is?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke
TT members,
Over the last 9 months or so, maybe more, TruthTalk has gotten to be an
uglier and uglier place to hang out and talk about truth. This is primarily
due to the negative tones, insults, accusations, and general bad behavior
that has grown until I find it unbearabable, as do others
: [TruthTalk] Who is he?
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:53:56 -0500
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
John, thanks for responding. Jesus indeed spoke v. 16, but to whom was
Christ referring when he used He?
=
My opinion, Perry, without a lot
PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:06 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is he?
John, thanks for responding. Jesus indeed spoke v. 16, but to whom was
Christ referring when he used He?
Any other TT'rs care
comfortable
letting God make that judgment than you.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
David,
Romans 10:9,10 : That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth
the Lord
Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath
raised him
Blaine,
Do you really believe that you have the power to pronounce that someone
is a Christian, or is not a Christian? Those are mighty big shoes that
you are trying to fill. If, however, you are just stating your opinion, and
not stating something that you know for sure, it would be
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blaine, I would like to offer a few critical coments on what I believe is an
over-inflated impression of the BoM.
Blainerb wrote: ... The phonetic spelling of caractors really just points
up how little formal education JS had (3rd grade). Yet he wrote a book
(The
Blaine, take a breath. It was a joke.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths,
This Time in...
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:16:15 EDT
Nice try, but Michael's skin
patience
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:16:58 -0700
DAVEH: When some TTers accuse us (Mormon TTers) of not being Christian, do
ponder the same question, Perry?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Blaine,
Do you really believe that you have the power to pronounce that someone
is a Christian
that you
were instantly critical of such. Yet I do not remember you questioning
others who've done similar.I guess it just caused me to question your
biases, Perry.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
If so, then, yes, I ponder the same question. However, while there may
be some who call
@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:16:42 -0700
DAVEH: YeahPretty quiet on TT tonight..
Do you believe that those who believe in Jesus are saved, as I've heard
many Christians proclaim? If belief is inadequate, what else is needed,
Perry?
Charles Perry
: [TruthTalk] Belief
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:43:10 -0700
DAVEH: I fully understand that, Perry. But I'd feel more comfortable
letting God make that judgment than you.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
David,
Romans 10:9,10 : That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
Jesus, and shalt
Izzy, I think you have stated an inconsistency. You say The second
sentence is incorrect. (The Law was for the Jew but no more), then you say
the levitical [law] which has been done away with. When the law is
mentioned in the bible, it is the levitical law.
Do you beleive that jesus came
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave. Look at me. He has already made that judgement, not me.
DAVEH: From the tone of you posts, it didn't seem that way.
He wrote it in the Bible so that I can know the real Jesus and God, and
not go chasing after false ones
Dave,
Are you saying that the BoM is indicating that men of the bible that
were contentious were of the Devil? Perhaps the pharisees were because thier
desire for contention was not to make a point of truth, but to try to
entrap, but Paul? Elijah? Wow, could this be yet another of satan's
John, unless you have discovered a videotaped confession to show us, I
personally am not that interested.
However, the TT Discussions page states: If you have an interest in
the Bible, religion, philosophy, or science, we encourage you to join the
list and engage in the discussions. Does
Terry, it is a lot more convoluted that you are imagining. Here are perhaps
a couple of points that have not been revealed to you. I am not positive
about a couple of them, so Dave, feel free to correct me if I understand
this incorrectly. (If you don't, I am sure Blaine will :-)
- they will
a righteous
population.My views and argumentation are not typical and make no
pretense at solving the case.
-Original Message-
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:48:46 -0700
Subject: [TruthTalk] **Moderator comment**: JFK
inconsistancy
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:52:19 -0700
* I am not positive about a couple of them*
DAVEH: Then why would you try to teach somebody else something you are not
sure about, Perry? Do you think passing on false or misunderstood
information helps others understand truth?
Charles Perry
I have been studying Mark 16:14-20, and have two open questions for all TT
members.
1. In verse 16, who is the antecedant to the pronoun He that starts out
that verse?
2. Again, in verse 16, what type of baptism is Jesus discussing here?
Thanks,
Perry
--
Let your speech be always
John, what you say is clear. It brings to mind a book I have called The
Seven laws of Noah. It introduces the idea of the Noahide law, the law
given to Noah as part of the Noahic covenant (which we know is real from Gen
9, but may not have all of the details of it in scripture) that applied to
Blaine, I accept your apology.
In order not to bore the TT readers of this thread, I will address your
statement However, I still have no explanation for Raymond and I having
the same experience when we tried to unsubscribe from TT. Aren't you the TT
moderator? This just looks suspiciously
If dark skin becoming lighter Is a symbol of truth, then Micheal jackson may
really be innocent!
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Kevin, are using pervert for JS in the same sense you used pervert for
JD?
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BB says
But, Blaine, you said [OG] was obviously one who impressed Joseph Smith...
so who wrote DC 117:12? JS or god? Do you think JS was putting words in
gods mouth?
Perry
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mine?
And finally, while you may not have considered my post to be in good
taste, which it probably was not, it contained no ad hominem attack on
either Blaine or his grandfather (or you, for that matter).
Perry
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My wife would be telling me, CPL, that this is not the time to be
responding
to you. My wife, however, is off 'principalling' 750 unruly kids so, I'll
proceed.
My hat is off to your wife. She has a very tough and very important job.
You write well. You
Blaine, you say in your comment, Does that explain anything?. This leads
me to think that you have somethingin mind? What does it explain to you? (I
have never been too good at reading between the lines).
Perry
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Blaine,
You said, This harrassment is coming, apparently, from Perry.
Evidently Raymond did not tell you this, because all he said in his email
to you is, He went on to delete me from the list, but he is still writing
to me privately. I do not see that he said I was harassing him. In
Blaine,
In the email below, did you intend to post those three pictures, plus
Ray's new email address and your personal correspondence with him? or was
that just a mistake? Just checking it out before this somehow becomes my
fault.
Perry
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disciple.
Take it private is my vote.
JD
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Blaine,
You said, This harrassment is coming
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Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary.
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