Hi, some of you may remember that I designed images that I claim effect the
background energy of space (aether, dark matter/energy, higgs field,
quantum foam) to the point of being felt by most people.
Some people have felt the energy and inquired about why they can feel
something hitting them
Dear Lennart,
Thank you, very nice!
Good idea to imply Norse Gods you can see that
Athena Zeusdottir is also in friendly terms with those
gals and guys. BTW she likes Wagner operas much more than me- see my
classic but unread opus about opera:
Slight improvement: http://imageshack.com/a/img191/665/0o55.png
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:15 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, some of you may remember that I designed images that I claim effect
the background energy of space (aether, dark matter/energy, higgs field,
quantum
just a side question.
what are the exact link between SPAWAR researches and GEC and their GeNiE
hybrid Fission/LENR incineration reactor.
It seems some retired Spawar researchers are member.
the link with some US invaded islands (Guamaround) is not clear...
note that I don't see clearly the
BTW I looked at last time, many commented, but only 5 answered if they
could feel it, 4 were positive and one negative.
That's a pretty decent margin.
So far better than I remembered.
Mark Jordan was the one that didn't, though I encourage others to try.
Mark, this one is for you:
Perhaps the energy is coming from the rotational energy of the earth, i.e.
Coriolis effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect
( which as I look at it, is a fudge factor needed to account for anomalies
when you assume you're
in an inertial frame of reference, but really aren't due to
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Perhaps the energy is coming from the rotational energy of
the earth, i.e.
Coriolis effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect
Hoyt,
Do we know the alignment of the structure which is housing
Nothing special to feel on the hand that cannot be attributed to the Dell
LCD monitor.
However, the image is provocative in the sense of appealing to an
overunity mentality, as a metaphor.
The part on the left reminds me of Hans Coler's circuitry in the
Stromerzeuger.
From: John
Pretty good explanation
http://www.cleonis.nl/physics/phys256/eotvos.php
Here is how close it cuts. At 60 degrees latitude, any object co-moving with
the Earth has its weight reduced by about 0.08 percent, thanks to the
Earth's rotation... snip... but you only can capture half of that on paper,
Bob, we are presented with a complex puzzle. A solution requires
testing possibilities against what is observed. A solution is made
difficult if mechanisms are proposed that can not be tasted. For
example, spin coupling can not be tested against what is known and, in
addition, it is not
But it's not the reduction in weight I'm referring to, it's the velocity
increase of the mass as it rises ( rω ) which absorbs energy from the earth.
Hoyt
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 8:05 AM
To:
Jed Rothwell
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22Jed+Rothwell%22
Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:00:37 -0800
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20140207
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Let it run for a long time on a glass table.
There
E-Cat World website finds a new LENR company in Germany, PURRATIO AG -
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/02/german-article-on-cold-fusion-introduces-new-lenr-company-purratio-ag/
The Purratio homepage is:
http://www.purratio.ag/
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
E-Cat World website finds a new LENR company in Germany, PURRATIO AG -
Here is their patent - it appears to be photoelectric
https://www.google.com/patents/EP1924387B1?cl=endq=PURRATIOhl=ensa=Xei=8
mP2Uu6YKoXuyQGb74DgAwved=0CDMQ6AEwAA
Some areas feel warmer than others, but they also do when there is
another image or just text on the screen.
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
The ultimate claim is that the observers are all paid and in on the fraud.
For example, I have read that the Elforsk test of the Hot Cat can't be
believed because (a) Levi is a biased friend (b) power was surreptitiously
run to the device. (c) the
From: Edmund Storms
Bob, we are presented with a complex puzzle. A solution requires testing
possibilities against what is observed. A solution is made difficult if
mechanisms are proposed that cannot be tested. For example, spin coupling
can not be tested against what is known and, in
From: Jones Beene
.it is far worse to attempt to rationalize a mechanism which we know for
sure cannot work, like P+P fusion to deuterium.
Essentially this explanation is dead-in-the-water on two fronts - the lack
of tritium, which must be there if the reaction can fuse two protons,
I'm not sure its photoelectric. Looks more like the high voltage plasma
arc through water system, and again very similar to the Graneau/Pappas
system and featured on a good number of you tube videos, except that the
last time I looked a number of these you tube videos had dissappeared,
which
Ed--Bob Here--
I would note that testing by the manipulation of spin is possible by changing
the static magnetic fields or the oscillating fields given known nuclear
magnetic resonance parameters. You suggest that energies associated with spin
are not found to involve the magnitude of energy
On Feb 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
From: Edmund Storms
Bob, we are presented with a complex puzzle. A solution requires
testing possibilities against what is observed. A solution is made
difficult if mechanisms are proposed that cannot be tested. For
example, spin
This patent has been issued. Here is the latest version:
Method for producing thermal energy - CA 2621914
Chttps://www.google.com/patents/CA2621914C
Here are a couple of papers which one of the patent applicants may
have co-authored.
Simulation of boron nitride sputtering process and its
From: Edmund Storms
Bob, we are presented with a complex puzzle. A solution requires testing
possibilities against what is observed. A solution is made difficult if
mechanisms are proposed that cannot be tested. For example, spin coupling
can not be tested against what is known and, in
I just wanted to make a statement about conservation of momentum. Linear
momentum and angular momentum are different animals and can not be converted
freely.
Recently, I have seen proposals that suggest that one can convert linear
momentum into angular momentum and that is clearly not
You have an interesting concept Hoyt. Most of us are quite skeptical of a
machine that generates work from out of thin air, but if the Earth's rotation
slows down by the action of this device, perhaps so.
You need to estimate the amount of energy that could be extracted in your
proposed
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Here is their patent - it appears to be photoelectric [snip]
Abstract
The invention relates to a method for producing thermal energy, wherein
light, initial material is introduced into a plasma arc
I don't think it claims
On Feb 8, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
From: Edmund Storms
Bob, we are presented with a complex puzzle. A solution requires
testing possibilities against what is observed. A solution is made
difficult if mechanisms are proposed that cannot be tested. For
example, spin
Jones--
Why do you say the patent appears to be photoelectric?
It seems to identify another way of loading a Pd or other metal with D or H
or both at the surface of the metal and inducing solid state fusion of the
loaded materials--probably D based on what the inventers say.
Bob
-
Eric---Bob here--
I agree with your assessment. However, it does imply fusion of D and in fact
uses the term fusion. The following is a copy (translated from German with
some mistakes) of the paragraph 12 of the patent :
Particularly preferably, the cathode material has been found to
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Skeptical by experience. We tested spirals, pulsed, shielded . . .
every configuration we could imagine and found them conservative.
But, I'm still open if someone has a new idea.
Just to give you an idea of how far we
Jones--Bob Cook here--
I saw that mention also and planned to follow up to address some of Ed concerns
about it not being possible.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:MIT Course
From: Edmund Storms
* Deuterium fusing from protons can be ruled out.
How is this ruled out? You only provide assertions.
No, I provide two facts from the Rossi experiments. No gamma. No tritium.
These are facts, not
Was the clear fluid in the stemmed glasses and important part of the design?
Some kind of special lubricant, perhaps :)
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Skeptical by experience. We tested spirals, pulsed, shielded . . .
every configuration we could imagine and found them
On Feb 8, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
From: Edmund Storms
* Deuterium fusing from protons can be ruled out.
How is this ruled out? You only provide assertions.
No, I provide two facts from the Rossi experiments.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
No, I provide two facts from the Rossi experiments. No gamma. No tritium.
... These are facts, not assertions.
Jones, your analysis is often insightful. But here you're stating facts,
and then implying assumptions on the
On Feb 8, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
wrote:
No, I provide two facts from the Rossi experiments. No gamma. No
tritium. ... These are facts, not assertions.
Jones, your analysis is often insightful. But here
The energy it stirs up can persist for a while.
If these spots are where various parts of the image are, it is more likely
you are feeling a non-physical energy effected by the images.
John
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:10 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Some areas feel warmer than
Terry, did you come to the conclusion that most if not all of these magnet
motors operated by extracting the energy stored within the magnets? Of course,
that would imply that only a finite amount of total energy could be extracted.
I would be afraid to remain close to the motor pictured. How
From: Eric Walker
I provide two facts from the Rossi experiments. No gamma. No tritium. ... These
are facts, not assertions.
[snip] You assume that d+d fusion will result in a gamma, and then when no
gamma is seen, you assume that d+d fusion in NiH is not possible. You have
assumed
Jones,
Thank you for that link. It was fascinating.
What I find hard to understand is why ALL these miraculous inventions go
to the grave with their inventors.
For example T. Henry Moray and Popp. There were plenty of well
witnessed demos yet the devices ALWAYS faded away. It seems strange
I understand that is the textbook answer but I have wondered if there
are exceptions.
For example, imagine a nozzle discharging gas at high velocity into a
large volume of gas. Why isn't that momentum converted into heat? If
it were, the heat energy could be converted into something else.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The risk/reward situation is such that 99% or four nines for leakage is not
nearly good enough. One cannot simply propose the leap that goes all the
way from partial fractionation to complete blockage.
That is precisely
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:41 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Terry, did you come to the conclusion that most if not all of these magnet
motors operated by extracting the energy stored within the magnets? Of
course, that would imply that only a finite amount of total energy could be
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Was the clear fluid in the stemmed glasses and important part of the design?
Some kind of special lubricant, perhaps :)
We were exhausted after mounting that 600 lb monster in the frame. It
kept jerking our chain lift out
From: Eric Walker
Jones Beene wrote:
The risk/reward situation is such that 99% or four nines for
leakage is not nearly good enough. One cannot simply propose the leap that
goes all the way from partial fractionation to complete
I believe I mentioned this before when you requested experimental subjects:
Its trivial to run double blind controls over the internet. Why don't you?
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:15 AM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, some of you may remember that I designed images that I claim
Ok, so have 2 images, one active and one inactive.
See if people can establish which is which?
Good idea, I will mock one up.
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe I mentioned this before when you requested experimental subjects:
Its trivial to
Let me see if I understand your position, Jones. You believe the
behavior using deuterium has no relationship to the behavior when H is
used. You believe nature has several ways to initiate LENR depending
on which isotope of hydrogen is used, with the mechanism for D only
working in Pd
If you look into this scenario in detail, you will see how the total angular
and linear momentum is conserved separately. The high velocity gas impacts the
large volume of gas and sends the total mass at an average slower velocity in
the direction that the input stream is moving. The total
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Fri, 7 Feb 2014 22:05:07 -0800:
Hi Eric,
[snip]
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
I think you have the decay scheme for Ni-59 wrong. It has a 76,000 year
half life and decays by electron capture as you said.
It's
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms
Let me see if I understand your position, Jones. You believe the behavior
using deuterium has no relationship to the behavior when H is used.
No relationship is too strong. After all, both involve hydrogen loaded
metal and QM. But the assessment
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
However, I am not convinced that PdD works this way, and frankly - it is a
diversion to even bring it up for now, since it detracts from the really
important issue - which is the proper understanding of the Rossi effect.
Thanks Jones, you make our difference in approach very clear. In
contrast, I assume all LENR results from the same process regardless
of which isotope of hydrogen is used or which metal lattice contains
the NAE. Of course, different nuclear products result from D and H,
and different
From Wikipedia's article on double blind
experimentshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment#Double-blind_trials
:
In a double-blind experiment, neither the participants nor the researchers
know which participants belong to the control group, as opposed to the test
group. Only after all data
Ah, I was thinking that since there are so few participants, and to reduce
false positives, 2 images could be presented.
This way if they were able to feel something slight with one image that
might have been in the mind but the other produced a clearly obvious
energy/sensation, they could answer
Eric--
I agree with your observation about Jones and Ed. In their give and take just
before this message I was not sure who was saying what. The symbol seemed to
have no significance as to who was talking.
Bob Cook
- Original Message -
From: Eric Walker
To:
Yes, some combination of that and tidal forces from the moon, perhaps.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.netwrote:
Perhaps the energy is coming from the rotational energy of the earth, i.e.
Coriolis effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect
(
David Roberson
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22David+Roberson%22
Sat, 08 Feb 2014 13:32:56 -0800
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20140208
If you look into this scenario in detail, you will see how the total angular
and linear
For the various Spin Doctors on Vortex -
Here is a magnon-ymous tribute to John Bockris, who passed away last summer.
Bockris authored over 700 papers and 24 books. This blip is courtesy of
Brian Ahern who has been developing a nanomagnetism hypothesis for
non-nuclear gain in LENR which involves
Geez Terry, three people standing around drinking white wine, while watching
one guy do all the work!
Can I get a job there??
;-)
-m
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 11:06 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]::
I am not going to try to quote who and what from this thread regarding
fractionating gammas (too long of a story line now).
What I have come to believe and what I initially missed, and what I think
many Vorts may be missing in this, is that the LENR reaction and the
fractionating are not two
Hi Eric,
I have made progress and have constructed a new reactor optimized to allow
low energy photons to escape. These would be unmistakable signatures of
LENR without having to be so optimized to show excess heat to the extent it
proves a nuclear source. I have seen transient heat bursts and
Eric, Jones and Ed--Bob Cook here--
Note that Pam Mosier Boss and Larry (the radiation count specialist consultant
for SPAWAR) talked about the CR-39 scheme for monitoring radiation from the
Pd-D system they worked with. (This was 2009 at the U of Mo.) They saw
evidence of tritium, neutrons,
What accounts for the Heat/Helium correlation in this reaction mechanism?
Is it discounted?
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
For the various Spin Doctors on Vortex -
Here is a magnon-ymous tribute to John Bockris, who passed away last
summer.
Bockris
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Geez Terry, three people standing around drinking white wine, while watching
one guy do all the work!
Can I get a job there??
We had the worker and
Quality Inspector
Safety Officer
Project Manager
Trade Labor Foreman
There should not be any extra energy than was present in the high velocity gas
and other cloud before the impact. The energy after the collision is
distributed differently since the large volume of gas would likely be heated by
the collision. Any additional heat energy that is passed to the
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
However there was no apparent gamma radiation associated with the major
reaction of 2 D's going to He-4, only the evidence of large melted areas in
the Pd electrode and no apparent kinetic energy associated with those
I agree with you Eric, the jury is still out. Ed's way of thinking is more in
line with my recent thoughts about a retarding magnetic field effect. He may
not agree, but it is easier for me to understand how a process that slows down
the snap action associated with the acceleration of the
From: Foks0904
What accounts for the Heat/Helium correlation in this
reaction mechanism? Is it discounted?
My guess is that no helium at all is seen in this experiment - only thermal
gain.
In a perfect world with decent funding - this would have
There is no limit on the strength of a magnetic field.
From the inverse square law, how strong can a magnetic field be at one
nanometer on the walls of a nano-cavity, when it is detected at 18cm to be
1.6 tesla? It is at least atomic level (10^5 tesla) or on the high end
about 10^12 to 10^16
Foks0904, Brian and Jones--Bob Cook here--
Thanks for the reference to spin coupling.
If electrons love to pair up in atoms because of spin coupling, why not
protons in a metal lattice quantum system? Kim seems to think that D's with
integral spin can get together at significant temperatures
Bob Higgins--Bob Cook here--
I agree with your logic regarding 100% efficient fractionating as possible. As
I noted in an earlier comment Mosier-Boss etal at SPAWAR saw two separate
reactions, the one LENR with no radiation being D-D going to He-4. It was also
the dominant reaction that
A better scheme to extract energy from the Coriolis force is the spinning earth
creates is to erect a windmill or your sailboat in the trade winds which are
caused by this effect.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Blaze Spinnaker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February
Dave--Bob Cook here
Pd has one of the highest magnetic susceptibility of any metal. The electrons
line up in an applied field to establish a very large B field in the Pd matrix.
The susceptibility determines the relative intensity of the internal and
external magnetic fields. I am not sure
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