Whoops. Sent too soon.
So do you skip saying hello or goodbye because we are already there, no
where to go, no one to greet?
:)
My socialb group has different norms obviously.
On Mar 10, 2011 2:25 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Mike,
I rarely if ever apologize, because I do not go
Sure, I wasn't trying to pry into your motivation, I apologize if I
did pry. I was merely disagreeing with your comment.
Certainly it makes sense to be careful of your privacy when posting to
a public, recorded, forum.
Thanks for your sweet email.
On Mar 7, 2011 10:41 PM, ED
On Wednesday, March 9, 2011, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
chan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Thanks to ED, we had some wonderful discussion recently.
May I suggest some posting sharing your personal
realization/witness/journey so that we can all learn?
Seems to me ED
Thanks for the clarification! Be careful, when you are climbing a lower
ridge, it will block your view of the distant peak.
Do you find apparent begger women asking for a bit of bread, or stuck
animals asking for help as you journey?
Haha, just kidding.
Cheers,
--Chris
On Mar 9, 2011 2:05
it is consciously clear (as in an active judgement)
or intuitively clear, without thought? For me, I still see compassion
arising from *any
*action performed in the awakened 'state'- sending Red Cross parcels to
children in Eithiopia is beside the point.
Mike
--
*From:* Chris Austin
to
the chance that we may be missing something quite important, is
something we can do right now.
Note: by my own nature, I do not mean no-self, I mean the stuff that
all my friends and acquaintances well know about me which I do not
like to see at all.
Cheers,
--Chris
Mike
From: Chris Austin-Lane
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:20 AM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Well, of course an action can't be performed by thought (Uri Geller proved
that point), but it
usually has its genesis in that thought, and the thought process continues
making
observations and judgements during and after
Red Pine has a Diamond Sutra translation also. His normal beautiful
English, a novel interpretation and interesting textual commentary.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 7:01 PM, SteveW eugnostos2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello. JM mentioned the excellent Diamond Sutra. Many translations can be
difficult.
It sounds then ED that perhapsby
On Mar 7, 2011 8:35 AM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@... wrote:
ED,
Why should there be something 'extra'?
These no need at all.
To me the transformation is significant if it enhances active
Sorry, I bumped the send button too soon.
So, ED, it sounds like for you a path of social service or of engaged
compassion would be more appealing than a path of meditation. That seems
fine.
Zen advertises itself as being of no merit, no goal, and it does indeed seem
to meet that promise.
If
@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
So, ED, it sounds like for you a path of social service or of engaged
compassion would be more appealing than a path of meditation. That seems
fine.
I said was unimpresed by a person's enlightenment, if it does not push
him toward devoting his
that's what the hand does, no big deal.
--Chris
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:12 AM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
I like that.
But there is 'awakening' and then there is 'awakened'.
It's a complex business!
Beyond words?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris
At the time, in the moment, it is clear. I did not mean something which
would be labelled appropriate, but acting appropriately.
On Mar 7, 2011 7:57 PM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Chris,
...and able to see when action is appropriate.
When (before or after) and who (the
around.
One sees the oneness, the okayness in each moment, just before the
layers of reaction try to cover it up in your attention.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
The patriarchs did not regard non duality as a trick.
'Samsara is no different than
My statement is intended to be simpler than that, just a statement of fact.
An analogy: a cylinder projected onto one plane is a square; on a.nother
plane, it is a circle. People will argue circle vs square, but they are not
different. The cylinder is the cylinder.
On Mar 5, 2011 9:12 AM, ED
...@yahoo.com wrote:
Excellent analogy, but truths are not proven by analogies.
The first two sentences of my post below are what I believe the patriarchs
had in mind.
The understandings of Bill, Steve and others are requested.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris
I just read a good sci-fi book exploring how that might start to
happen, Zendegi, by Greg Egan.
The end up with the maxim:
If you want to make it human, make it whole.
Apparently there really is a Human Connectome Project trying to make
a digital map of the brian.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at
I agree with a lot of what you write also, Ed, but I rarely post when I
agree with what is beimg said.
On Mar 4, 2011 7:37 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bill, you are the only one who agrees with me (occasionally), and your
agreement certainly counts (with me)!
--- In
Wow, what a lot of typing has been taking place!
Let me state a few things:
1. Most mail readers can allow you to send all comments from a given
email address directly to the trash. I am periodically tempted to do
this with some people that irritate me habitually, but of course the
great way
2011/2/25 Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com:
Besides, enlightened being has no self. The entire focus, or heart, is
filled with the suffering of others.
Just to point out the obvious, those are two distinct statements, and
the first, being has no self, is true of all of us, know we
Edgar:
It sounds like you are assuming that desire is something which can be
statically satisfied with some possible arrangement of the physical
universe. That seems unlikely to me; I am pretty sure my desires are
unreasonable and include such things as eating a cake and keep it too.
Perhaps
Well, conventionally 19 is past the age of consent.
As a person that's been in a long term exclusive relationship since 1986,
I'm not really in the place of either person in the story, so I'm not sure
my comments have much relevance. I did date a tenth grader when I was a
senior, after my older
Being emotionally connected enough to another to be inspired and motivated
and taught by them != giving up responsibility for your own life.
I like your theory that they are correlated, and I suspect people do
validate their own sense of a teachers awesomeness by the degree to which
they give up
I was at a parenting workshop
On Feb 13, 2011 3:09 AM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote:
Anthony:
My sister and any member of my family have me at any moment they want me.
In fact, it was very complicated lo leave Scotland as we were having for
several weeks in a row an almost non
Excellent
On Feb 12, 2011 12:50 AM, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
Lesson 1
http://www.billsmart.com/mp3/This%20is%20Your%20Life%20-%20Dust%20Brothers.mp3
...Bill!
for therapy.).
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
+1-301-270-6524
On Feb 10, 2011, at 15:41, Brett Corbin brettalancor...@yahoo.com wrote:
I have been using visualization lately and have been finding it to be
very helpful. What I do is, I go in to my normal meditation, focusing
in on my breathing, when I
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
... I was interested in knowing if there is any zen center that
advocates 'zen' without any mention Buddha's teachings.
I think that is a fair description of Toni Packer's center, although she
doesn't use the word zen or
I went biking up a local mountain a few times the last month which has
a great route, twenty miles up hill, get out and snap a few pics, then
turn around and roll back down hill for twenty miles.
For me, biking has been a sort of kinhin 2.0, where the perspective I
have on the zafu can be tried
On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
chan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
Good Morning To You,
As a scientist or a scholar, the training is to remain absolutely
objective, be an observer and never contaminate the fact in front of us
with our own interpretation or subjective
On Saturday, February 5, 2011, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bill, Brett,
Does either of you possess the talent of distinguishing the 'wise' from the
unwise?
If i may, yes, of course they have that talent. We all have that talent.
Perhaps we over look it, but it is here, every moment.
Snort. That was the first album I totally memorized.
On Friday, February 4, 2011, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
One thing I'll say for him,
Jesus is cool.
Caiphus - JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, SteveW eugnostos2000@... wrote:
--- In
I find the direction zen is leading me is not away from my feelings and
toward logical thought, but towards an ability to thoroughly know my
feelings without subsequently doing regrettable things. Feelings are
inseparable from living.
I find the idea that logic and reason can be effective goal
-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net* wrote:
From: Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Spock?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 9:01 AM
I find the direction zen is leading me is not away from my feelings and
toward logical thought, but towards
Seems to me that the problem isn't acting in a wholesome fashion, but the
trying to be wholesome.
You are already wholesome, you don't need to try or strive or purify
or whatever to be wholesome.
As far as actions, the key there is in the moment, how are you acting. Far
from being a help,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Anil Sahal a.sa...@sheffield.ac.uk wrote:
IMO, rather than sitting with the intention to
not have thoughts arise, it is better to sit without any expectations at
all. Who is relishing sitting?
This question Who is is sort of a standard zen joke:
Two
Taunted again and again by the footnotes to try to make this list a
book discussion group, I ask if any one has met, studied with, or read
Toni Packer? She has an interesting history of being a follower of
Philip Kapleau, of three pillars of zen, but then became so non-dual
she had to leave Zen
Seems to me zen would be how you listened to the music or how you made
the music, not what kind of music. If you listen whole heartedly, not
adding in a lot of distracted chains of thought on top of listening.
For meditation, as close to silence as life gets seems best.
John Cage is pretty hip,
On Monday, January 17, 2011, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Every individual with some ego-strength may feel that he/she has found
another 'only right way' (which works for themselves.)
You may wish to judge her based on the wiki article, but her leaving
Buddhism i think is like the
, kindly but without the aura of
sanctitude is refreshing. And Monkey King is a very appealing hero to my
kids, he keeps being bad but without ill will and makes up for it. And great
powers to boot.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Jan 15, 2011, at 15:07, Anthony Wu
wu
,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:12, Mel gunnar19632000@... wrote:
Don't get me wrong, because I personally love my vegies, fruit, tofu,
beans and so on...but I'm not quite clear on this 'vegetarian' thingy
I am vegetarian and the thing I tell my kids
On Sunday, January 16, 2011, Dave P wookielife...@yahoo.ca wrote:
I'm not sure why I'm feeling this way, other than I read something that got
me down because it was about the spiritual aspects of drugs, especially
LSD. I know that taking LSD would be a very bad thing for me.I feel
On Friday, January 14, 2011, Mel gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
--- On Fri, 14/1/11, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
There is more cultural baggage attached with the church, so the times when
recommending it seem useful are rarer is the main difference
Is the thing you find questionable the assess or the others?
My elliptical post earlier was just meant to say that the changes that I
experience in sitting seem to make me more aware of the other people around
me, and therefore I am oddly more able to see their body language and
non-verbal stuff,
On Thursday, January 13, 2011, Mel gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
--- On Thu, 13/1/11, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
Practice doesn't change the nature of what living is.
-
MEL: It doesn't change
Sounds like 25 minutes of sitting a day is ok. Also, physically,
sitting on the zafu with legs crossed feels healthier, more active
than slouching in a office chair. It requires active balance for the
abdomen, something my office chair does not require.
Perhaps I should switch my office to be
, January 8, 2011, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
To eat the peach or make do with the picture of a lovely peach. It is a daily
choice we face.
Back to Mel:
This is just the thing about Zen...we all eventually become our own counselors
We are all already our own conselors. Zen
On Jan 12, 2011 1:16 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear Bodhidharma, I thank you that I am not a sinner
like these non-practicing Zen folk appear to be.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ChrisAustinLane chris@... wrote:
I do not come to the forum expecting it to be a place just for
-intentioned speech.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez flordel...@... wrote:
Indeed Chris. We always have a choice.
--- On Sun, 9/1/11, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote:
To eat the peach or make do with the picture of a lovely peach. It is a
daily choice we face.
On Jan 8
To eat the peach or make do with the picture of a lovely peach. It is a
daily choice we face.
On Jan 8, 2011 11:18 PM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote:
Hello again Dave.
I haven´t read any comment from you or anyone else about video suggestion
Thich Nhat Hanh, with the tittle
Zazen
On Jan 6, 2011 7:05 AM, Dave P wookielife...@yahoo.ca wrote:
So how does one separate ego from mind?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote:
Dave,
Â
Fear of dementia, fear of death, fear of fear... are indications of your
strong ego. Anything that...
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When I use the word Mindfulness, which I try never to do, I just
mean paying attention. Not Thoughtfully or cognitively coherent
or anything like that. I just mean 'watch it!' Like my dog watching
me when I do something that might lead to a walk or might not.
For me, when I have the feelings
On Tuesday, December 28, 2010, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精 wrote:.
All you have to do is to stop search outward and begin searching
inward.
I thought that there is no separating outside from inside. And that to
find what you seek, stop searching.
On Thursday, December 23, 2010, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
In the final analysis, you are 'right.' 'Liberation' is indeterminate,
whether claimed for self or by others.
Play with anyone and everyone you please, whether liberated or not - provided
you are enjoying it - and then 'walk
On Sunday, December 26, 2010, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Will experiencing kensho-satori affect a zenist's deep inner relationship to
the other sex?
Paying attention to what is in front of you will affect how you treat
people. If you were brought up sexist and are trying to raise
Dr. Austin's work is of more interest to the person seeking a scientific
understanding of the brain than to a person seeking to experience Zen
training for themselves.
Though, Bill, I'm sure if we wrote all of your interesting and helpful posts
on this forum together into one piece, it would be
of one group to the
detriment of another.
But, as judged by whom?
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote:
I do agree that libera...
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk
On Dec 21, 2010 7:14 AM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com
wrote:
Good morning All,
Viki has been meditating with us for over 10 years now. Through out her
journey, she has learned to give, to give, to give, to serve, to serve
and serve, while her husband, Dr. Tracy Lee with an
Head Teacher? Congrats on the promotion.
I think I just sent a blank message to everyone, sorry about that.
I do agree that liberation in our society cannot be separated from
feminism. The very first training for learning the handing over of
your own lamp to another, or of trying to juggle two
of not
doing.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
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One slight quibble I have with this.
I think calmness is the natural state of the mind, and sitting allows that
to be seen.
The mind becomes calm when people stop ruffling it up, not when people calm
it.
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:16 AM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sitting can calm the
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Rose P things_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
The 'why' seems to me to be a very important question, esp for beginners
like me who are looking for some sort of inspiration (totally not the right
word, but don't have a better one) from those who have been practicing a
Is that what people mean by karma? I was taught that karma means
action, and that the Buddha just meant that to be mean is an unpleasant
state to be in; the effect and the cause are indivisible, the very blindness
that pushes the brain towards being mean makes the heat of anger burn the
brain a
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.comwrote:
Chris,
To the contrary. I do not recommend Big Mind , necessarily. In fact, I
have said here that it is not a process that works for me. It seems a bit
like group therapy, but not about zen. I know it well, as I
i believe that regular sex is an affirmative duty of the husband in most
Jewish traditions so perhaps the Lord is smiling
On Nov 8, 2010 2:49 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Injaculation or ejacultion, Jehovah would not be amused. --ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu
!
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 3, 2010, at 16:17, Anthony Wu
wu...@yahoo.com.sghttp://uk.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wu...@yahoo.com.sg
wrote:
Bill Smart himself is also an illusion. Don't atttach any spiritual
significant.
Anthony
--- On *Wed, 3
That's fine.
I, having spent a good amount of time in book groups, find that 'give and
take' over a book that multiple people have read, never fails to bring me
some understanding of perspectives I would not have arrived at in seclusion.
Not every one's cup of tea, I'm sure. (Another
No, I am a layman. I do read Scientific American and Science News (a
weekly) and my wife used to be an experimental psychologist (I have some
very pretty PET scans of my brain doing memory load tests).
I did take some science classes in school, but more math, physics. I
stopped taking biology
Oddly enough, you actually posted three replies to my initial post, none of
which confessed to have reading it however, so I ignored them.
I don't really have a shortage of articles and stuff to read - I have a
shortage of people that have read the same stuff I find interesting.
--Chris
On Tue,
If anything, zen suggests to me Not Always So and to look at the given
situation, not relying on pre-formulated rules.
Carpe Diem fits the situation sometimes, definitely.
--Chris
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:17 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
And, you would agree that zen suggests that
I have to agree with this.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
but I think the development of scientific research into meditation helps
completely separate Zen from the more faith based systems of religion (a
belief in something supernatural in the
The very heart of zen cannot be achieved in any other method than our own
hard work. Just like one cannot eat a meal without yourself picking up the
food and putting it into your mouth and chewing and swallowing.
Anyone charging money is at best selling water next to the river, and maybe
selling
To know zen, the easiest method is to sit zazen.
You are free to try other methods, of course.
--Chris
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:50 AM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote:
[Anthony:] Zen is illogical, so undefinable.
[Ed:] To an
Ohh, now you've gone too far.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
Internet browsing/groups
Really, just keep sitting and what ever else becomes necessary will be easy
to see.
Also, I'd like to add that there's nothing inherently wrong with worrying;
it is certainly isn't something to worry about!
:-)
--Chris
There are koans used in Soto training, but differently from Rinzai -
more to hone the understanding of advanced students than to prod a
student towards an initial experience of non-duality.
Bill! describes the Rinzai training, where I have heard Mu or some
other intro koan is used to move the
/10, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net* wrote:
From: Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] New member.
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 9 October, 2010, 6:34 AM
There are koans used in Soto training, but differently from Rinzai -
more to hone
Are you then saying that there is a cause of pervasive disappointment?
Could a way to escape pervasive disappointment?
Only if one has pervasive deluded expectations?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jane ch...@... wrote:
One is tempted to generalize that the nature of living is
When you swim well, your intelligence is not separate from your action, but
indivisible. At that point the things you could think about swimming, things
you read in books, are not necessary to think. The intelligence is there in
the action.
All these words about thoughts vs perceptions seem to
Only you know :)
Personally, I have found it to be more satisfying to try to avoid
getting the last word. On the internet, you win if you don't reply
one more time. They are just trying to goad you into more and more
extreme positions until you break Godwin's rule.
http://xkcd.com/386/
On
Ahh, every culture has repellent bits. Just the other morning I caught
myself spending so much time ianswering email on my smart phone that I did
not wake my daughter up until 7 am, depriving her of a promised early
morning read aloud time from Journey to the West from her father. Getting
caught
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:47 AM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
My POV, which I believe to be the Buddha's perspective, is that
'conditions' may help or hinder, but compassionate or harmful behaviors have
their origins in intentions and motivations in the human mind.
My take is that
Mayka;
I almost never disagree with anything you right, but I think you are being
excessively cynical here. The West has caused so much havoc over other
cultures because of the conditions they found themselves in, not because of
some enduring badness in them. The Guns, Germs Steel book is a
The sentence I was disagreeing with is:
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.comwrote:
My view about the human race is that the bad people are always the winers
and the ones who promote real civilization based are always the losers.
It certainly doesn't offend
Well, the interesting thing in Guns, Germs and Steel is that the conditions
of power arose from other more picayune conditions to do with the
distribution of seed sizes and domesticable animals and the orientation of
continents. It really wasn't an innate lust for power either, just a simple
So people are saying that there is more to the Sufi way than the Rumi quote
calendars at the health food store or the Martian whirling dervishes in Kim
Stanley Robinson's books?
OK, I am listening.
On Sep 14, 2010 7:10 PM, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
Chris and Artie,
I assume from the
I think it is more than that. People are shallow, sure, that's
nothing new. But I wouldn't say that there is no change recently in
the degree of various cultures mixing around. I had a most
interesting conversation with my Indian-born co-workers the other day
about how their parents want the
In zen, the absolute is not Just This. To encounter the Absolute
is not yet enlightenment.Just this is not some magic words
meaning something other than what is right in front of us. It is ..
just ... this.
The absolute meets the relative like a box and lid - fitting together
to make a
Are you the Judean People's Liberation Front?
No, we are the People's Liberation Front of Judea... He's
the Judean People's Liberation Front. SPLITTER!
The value of religious practice is often difficult to assess from the
outside. And it is often more entertaining to
Imagining that fear of death is an uncomfortable problem seems no
different from imagining that dying is an uncomfortable problem.
It's not something to worry about - some times people are afraid of dying.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:51 PM, roloro1557 roloro1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Everyone is afraid
Most of these I wrote during my years as a stay at home parent.
spring - heat off, no air
sunny running, sweat again
sleep with blowing cool
Laughing falling smile
wordless jokes cracking us up
jump hide - where? ha ha!
grow grow grow unseen
mom is eating sleeping lots
when is who coming?
tiny
Forwarded from the Zen Community of Baltimore:
Dear fellow AZTA teachers and friends,
I bring you sad news this evening. Aitken Roshi passed away at 5:35 PM
this afternoon. He was 93 years old.
Roshi's energy had been a little low the past week or so but he had
still been working on his writing
I've heard that Dogen had some statement about compassion to the
effect that compassion is the hand fluffing the pillow for the head.
--Chris
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:36 PM, maitreya003 joult...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that Jesus and Buddha advocated the development of compassion toward
was always
changing the rules according to the individual capacities of others.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote:
Buddha also had a whole list of answerable questions and as he died,
said, Oh, by the way, I meant to change some of the rules I put forth
earlier
Of course I meant unanswerable questions.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Chris Austin-Lane
ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
Buddha also had a whole list of answerable questions and as he died,
said, Oh, by the way, I meant to change some of the rules I put forth
earlier, but I haven't got time
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