Re: [zfs-macos] Finder won't empty trash on ZFS volume

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Belec
Interesting, my recent builds have been deleting just fine on newly created pools. It was a huge issue a few weeks back and iLoveZFS and talked back and forth with the resulting build working perfectly. That said I’ll have to rebuild and retest when home from the holidays. -- Jason Belec

Re: [zfs-macos] Finder won't empty trash on ZFS volume

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Belec
x27;m even happy with speed right now as I've been rebuilding the massive media library on the new pool tech. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:16 AM, ilove...@icloud.com wrote: > > Jason, were you deleting with the Trash or rm? > > Also, as I not

Re: [zfs-macos] Finder won't empty trash on ZFS volume

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Belec
Sweet! Happy Holiday news for everyone then. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Dec 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, ilove...@icloud.com wrote: > > Thanks, Jason. I have found the problem. We were setting va_dirlinkcount > equal to vap->va_nlink. However, va_dirlinkcount is actua

Re: [zfs-macos] Google Code Download Service Closed

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Belec
What size for the files we're currently hosting total? Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:07 PM, ilove...@icloud.com wrote: > > http://google-opensource.blogspot.fi/2013/05/a-change-to-google-code-download-service.html > Any thoughts on new plans for new distribution? > > http

Re: [zfs-macos] Google Code Download Service Closed

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Belec
I'll look into some options before months end. But don't let me hold any good deals that come up. Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:28 PM, ilove...@icloud.com wrote: > > Looks like about 40 MB. > >> On Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:22:55 AM UTC-8, jasonbelec wrote: >> What

Re: [zfs-macos] Google Code Download Service Closed

2013-12-21 Thread Jason Belec
Yeah kinda what I was thinking, but I'll back you and help out with any costs. Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Bjoern Kahl wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi All, > > Am 21.12.13 20:07, schrieb ilove...@icloud.com: >> http://googl

Re: [zfs-macos] Hackintosh safe PCI Sata card

2014-02-14 Thread Jason Belec
Yes too all he said, been there, done that. Addonics now has 6GB SATA for those that were put off with only 3GB SATA. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:29 AM, Boyd Waters wrote: > > For many years, I used PCI cards with a Silicon Image 3124 or

Re: [zfs-macos] Need info

2014-02-14 Thread Jason Belec
Currently you would probably need the 'in-development' version of ZFS to read more advanced variants from Solaris. Unless its version 8 or older ZFS for Solaris which will be unlikely. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:40 AM, X Bytor wrote: > >>

Re: [zfs-macos] Need info

2014-02-14 Thread Jason Belec
data before you start experimenting. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Ajit Nair wrote: > > I can check the version of zfs in solaris and keep you posted about it .. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14-Feb-2014, at 5:3

Re: [zfs-macos] Need info

2014-02-14 Thread Jason Belec
Yes, just clone the drive forensically (bit by bit) then work with the dupe. You can use DD (free), or many other tools like it, or use a harddrive cloning rig. Always the safe choice to work on clones. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Ajit Nair wr

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-17 Thread Jason Belec
ying to send old snapshots to a new system that differed so much. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > Yes yes, I admit it. > It was kinda stupid to move to ZEVO. > It seemed more integrated and painless for someone like me,

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-17 Thread Jason Belec
Sorry, not sure which pre-built build is best for you, I currently build daily as I'm testing fixes. So far, amazing results under Mavericks. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > I'll just give it a try and report ba

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-17 Thread Jason Belec
permission, same that the downloadable build does. All pretty easy and repeatable on the command line. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Rob Freedomfighter wrote: > > Ok, is it hard to build it? > Do I need knowledge in excess of just some simple terminal co

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-17 Thread Jason Belec
info. Oh, and your doing all this at your own risk. ;) Seriously. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > I got Mavericks up and running nicely but the 74.3.2b made it panic at boot. > So what do I install instead? > And h

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-17 Thread Jason Belec
No idea. Haven't touched any of the pre-builts as I've been asked to test other things not yet considered stable. No known loss of data, so on that front you should be good. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > Than

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-17 Thread Jason Belec
Like I said, very helpful fella. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:18 PM, ilove...@icloud.com wrote: > > Hey, this is ilovezfs. > > I think there may be some confusion here as to what each of these versions > are. For example, you referenced the

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-18 Thread Jason Belec
tlight? Spotlight is still an issue, but being worked on. If your using the build version and you did so daily, you would of course be getting all fixes as they come out. Do ensure you have everything backed up regularly. No issues so far but best to assume the worst. Another great community

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-18 Thread Jason Belec
Been testing Zvols, HFS+ formatted and Spotlight does seem to like them, which technically means, Mail, iPhoto, etc., etc., can function normally. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 18, 2014, at 7:56 AM, ilove...@icloud.com wrote: > > The best description of the current stat

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-18 Thread Jason Belec
No kissie, no kissie!! zpool create -f -O compression=lz4 -O casesensitivity=insensitive -O normalization=formD -O atime=off -o ashift=12 pool raidz disk1 disk2 disk3 -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > ilovezfs, if you were h

Re: [zfs-macos] Transferring from 10.8.4/ZEVO to 10.9/macZFS?

2014-02-19 Thread Jason Belec
In the past we found compression to make things faster not slower. Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:34 AM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > So now I'm running OS X Mavericks 10.9.1 with Open ZFS installed with this > guide (very easy). > It imported and handled the ZEVO pool whi

Re: [zfs-macos] Is it ok to discuss OpenZFS/ZFS-OSX here?

2014-02-26 Thread Jason Belec
development version not boot easily and without issue on every 10.9 version. Have you Safe Booted to see? Hold 'shift' key while booting to only get the OS. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > Is it ok to discuss OpenZF

Re: [zfs-macos] Is it ok to discuss OpenZFS/ZFS-OSX here?

2014-02-26 Thread Jason Belec
Smart man. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > Ok, I'm just not that used to IIRC. I will look into it. > I'm running it all on a hackintosh. > I will make another try and start over with the working installat

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-02-26 Thread Jason Belec
Well that's one point of view and choice. I'm sure those you refer to are far more knowledgeable than any other individuals. I can only speak for myself. I have intentionally attempted to destroy data for years under ZFS, amazingly enough all data is always recoverable. I have intentionally

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-03-01 Thread Jason Belec
in the real world for clients that cannot lose data for the most part due to legal regulations. I trust RAM manufacturers and drive manufacturers equally, I just verify for peace of mind with ZFS. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 1, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Philip Robar wrote: > &g

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread Jason Belec
Can you give us the info that you used to build the test pools? -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:28 PM, ylluminate wrote: > > Hi folks, thought it was time to try maczfs again. I am shifting over from > ZEVO due to GreenByte's fubar of the project

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-08 Thread Jason Belec
Whats the pool history say about how this was created? I understand your importing, which may contribute to issues. Seen some in pools that are old that I've imported before copying contents to new pools with the suggested parameters. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 20

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Jason Belec
Yes to everything you noticed. That said, hoping for anything Don did, is utterly pointless. He walked away with cash in his pocket. Currently pools are being built with commands like this zpool create -f -O compression=lz4 -O casesensitivity=insensitive -O normalization=formD -O atime=off

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Jason Belec
essentially yes. Alot of things are similar. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:54 AM, ylluminate wrote: > > Please do not say things like that about Don. I know him personally and that > is not what happened. I'm not going to get into details

Re: [zfs-macos] Speed Tests

2014-03-09 Thread Jason Belec
> of the day, and copy data around to get performance improvements? > > That doesn't sound right. > > >> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Jason Belec >> wrote: >> Haha, it was not derogatory just business term for guys coming out of Apple, >> starting

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-16 Thread Jason Belec
Snapshots also only store the difference from the last snapshot and when combined with send/receive are very efficient for replication through transmission to remote servers. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Simon Casady wrote: > > An advantage of sna

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-16 Thread Jason Belec
Yeah but that's databases! Whole different game. ;) Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Mar 16, 2014, at 8:28 PM, roemer wrote: > >> On Monday, 17 March 2014 06:40:02 UTC+11, cap wrote: >> An advantage of snapshots is with active filesystems such as those used by a >> database. For a consist at

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Jason Belec
Good man. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:35 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > >> On 17. März 2014 at 05:00:25, roemer (uwe.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: >> Thanks for the detailed example! >> >>> On Monday, 17 March 2014 07:34:45 UTC+11, dch

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Jason Belec
yet. For those that want to try it. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Jason Belec wrote: > > Good man. > > > -- > Jason Belec > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:35 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: >>> >

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Jason Belec
Well technically, setting up your own Dropbox, Box, AWS, etc., is not hard. But hey, people can pay someone for the service so they do. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Alex Wasserman wrote: > > > Media: > ZFS mounted locally - iPhoto/Apert

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-03-31 Thread Jason Belec
As one who has gone through all kinds of permutations to 'corrupt' data under ZFS, I'm calling BS on the RAM as the culprit. As Bjoern mentioned it sounds like connector issues, something I've seen a lot. However depending how you set your pool up, your data may be difficult to access but most l

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Jason Belec
However I don't use cheap RAM either, and I only have 2 Systems requiring ECC currently that don't even connect to ZFS as they are both XServers with other lives. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Daniel Becker wrote: > >> On Mar 31, 2014,

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Jason Belec
of more help. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Eric Jaw wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:04:39 AM UTC-4, jasonbelec wrote: >> ZFS is lots of parts, in most cases lots of cheap unreliable parts, >> refurbished parts,

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Jason Belec
ssue, here: > https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60992 > > >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jason Belec >> wrote: >> I run over 30 instances of Virtualbox with various OSs without issue all >> running ontop of ZFS environments. Most of my c

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Jason Belec
sing in the sequence described. As for why it might not work... The Guest settings info might be relevant here as well. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Eric wrote: > > haha train away! > > This is what I'm trying to do for my own needs. Issues or no

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Jason Belec
t the VM on the OS drive, just like I never host ZFS on the OS drive FreeBSD can of course, but I believe attention must be paid to setup) even if I have room for a partition (tried that in the past). -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Eric wrote: > > A

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Jason Belec
'. >>> >>> Frustrating, yes, educational also. The happy news is, all the data was >>> fine, wife would have torn me to shreds if photos were missing, music was >>> corrupt, etc., etc.. And this was on the old out of date but stable ZFS >>> v

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-11 Thread Jason Belec
resting. > > ECC is one of the most basic steps to take, and if you look at the > architectural literature, that's how it's treated. If you really want to be > in on the joke, find the opensolaris zfs list thread from 2009 where someone > asks about ECC, and someone els

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-12 Thread Jason Belec
Hhhhm, oh I get it, you have zero knowledge of the platform this list represents. No worries, appreciate your time clearing that up. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Bayard Bell wrote: > > Jason, > > If you think I've said anything abou

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-18 Thread Jason Belec
Well that sounds wrong, not my experience, How did you create your pool? -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On May 18, 2014, at 8:27 PM, James Hoyt wrote: > > So I setup a MacZFS RaidZ rather easily and was happy with myself. I had four > 3 TB internal SATA drives in a zpo

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-19 Thread Jason Belec
Dave has posted some good info. Reminds me why I prefer Virtualbox. ;) We do seem to need more detail though to really help the original OP. Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On May 19, 2014, at 4:00 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > > > From: James Hoyt djnati...@gmail.com(mailto:djnati...@gmail

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Belec
hackintosh and only with less than stellar drives. Seems that here around the mad science lab Intel SSDs are the most reliable long term. I have two of their originals still outlasting several other brands. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On May 19, 2014, at 10:05 AM, James Hoyt wrote:

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Belec
Silver. Originally, I had > QuickSilver indexing the drive, but the computer was practically > unusable when it did that so I disabled that. > > I look forward to any advice you guys may have. > > Thanks, > > James > >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Jason Be

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Belec
inks. I also don't know what a 4k drive is. > > I carefully followed and read ALL the instructions and FAQ and Getting > Started guide on maczfs.org. Please don't speak to me like I didn't do > my research or follow the proper instructions. > > - James > >&g

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Belec
om my original post.. I didn't know >>> scrub and clean. I did my research only on MacZFS because I thought >>> that's only where it mattered. I didn't trust info on other sites >>> because I didn't think it was relevant to how Mac ZFS operated. >

Re: [zfs-macos] RAIDZ1 running slow =(

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Belec
If your upgrading Try something like this zpool create -f -O compression=lz4 -O casesensitivity=insensitive -O normalization=formD -O atime=off -o ashift=12 deathstar raidz disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 Do a test on speed. And let us know if you see improvement. Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S >

Re: [zfs-macos] backups -- what do you do?

2014-05-21 Thread Jason Belec
uploaded to Amazon Glacier. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On May 21, 2014, at 3:37 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > > What do you do for backups? > > I use a combo of: > > - arq [1] for general mac OS backup > - time machine to external USB drive for quick recov

Re: [zfs-macos] backups -- what do you do?

2014-05-21 Thread Jason Belec
ave saved. Didn't go over well. ;) Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On May 21, 2014, at 12:22 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > >> On 21/05/2014 11:21, Jason Belec wrote: >> >> Every quarter I randomly pick a system to restore from remote to ensure >> backup integri

Re: [zfs-macos] Status of OpenZFS on OSX Versus MacZFS

2014-05-21 Thread Jason Belec
Well the info then and now would be quite a bit different as things are actively being developed. ;) The old works, just feature frozen for years. It's limitations are well documented. The announcement version in September had been updated once or twice I believe since then and I run it on seve

Re: [zfs-macos] Getting ZFS pool to share over AFP?

2014-06-26 Thread Jason Belec
Can we assume your utilizing the old MacZFS? A command exists to see all shares, should be in the wiki. I'm on an island on vacation with very pitiful bandwidth or I would search for it. ;) Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Jun 26, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Geoff Smith wrote: > > Put your Mac Pro int

Re: [zfs-macos] Getting ZFS pool to share over AFP?

2014-06-27 Thread Jason Belec
Yup that'll do it. Enjoy. I do recommend the new OSX ZFS though, makes life easier. Jason Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Jun 27, 2014, at 3:49 AM, David Hunt wrote: > > Yes, "stable" MacZFS on Lion. I ended up using AFP Liberate which fools AFP > into thinking ZFS is HFS and allowing it to be

Re: [zfs-macos] Digest for zfs-macos@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

2014-07-21 Thread Jason Belec
Software does not always work with other software and/or hardware, this is neither a limitation or a feature, just reality of needs. If enough people use SmartReporter or similar tools for whatever reasons, someone will probably take the time to update the OpenZFS code. You can open a ticket

Re: [zfs-macos] Renaming a pool?

2014-10-14 Thread Jason Belec
ROFL -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad On Oct 14, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: >> Is there any way to change the name of an existing pool? > > Welcome Anders, > > zpool export > zpool import > > https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&

Re: [zfs-macos] Overload? Frequent kernel panic with new, bigger array

2014-10-14 Thread Jason Belec
ed a couple old pools recently, took some work, but I was pleasantly surprised. Yes, I keep such things around for just these kinds of tests. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Anders Wallén wrote: > > Interesting. I will try to examine the parts. >

Re: [zfs-macos] Overload? Frequent kernel panic with new, bigger array

2014-10-14 Thread Jason Belec
That is also a good question -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Simon Casady wrote: > > Did the sector size change ? > >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Anders Wallén wrote: >> Interesting. I will try to examine the parts. >&g

Re: [zfs-macos] abort zpool replace

2014-10-29 Thread Jason Belec
ating to you right now because it is doing everything possible to protect data your messing with. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Oct 29, 2014, at 6:50 AM, 'Busty' via zfs-macos > wrote: > > thanks for the input but: > > "only inactive hot spa

Re: [zfs-macos] How to transition from mirrors to raidz?

2014-11-03 Thread Jason Belec
, security, redundancy? Because 2 drives mirrored and striped across 2 more drives mirrored is pretty safe and can be grown by another 2 drives and repeated. In fact I usually encourage this for most people rather than RaidZ2 (something you cannot alter after creation). -- Jason Belec Sent fr

Re: [zfs-macos] How to transition from mirrors to raidz?

2014-11-03 Thread Jason Belec
s consumer grade even the over priced stuff claiming otherwise. Do those backups. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Robert Rehnmark wrote: > > The problem would not be the mirror.. > I use consumer standard drives and they fail quite often. > Wit