Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
can get behind this sort of effort. I am trying to avoid the need for selective forking that Chris has found necessary to make progress with bfg. I want to continue using zope since these things are a big factor for the factors I stated. Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi David, David Pratt wrote: I

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
Hi Roger. Great. I am willing to help with this. I understand the politics of change and feel there is most likely less impetus for change for those consuming packages as opposed to folks like yourself or I that use zope 3 as our framework. This is something that has to happen. The situation

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
Roger, you make excellent sense here. The other issue of course is the testing setup. So there is potential to operate here on a few levels to achieve something that makes much better sense for moving forward. Roger Ineichen wrote: I think the cleanup isn't really needed for zope packages

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
Hey Martijn. These are good ideas. I also find myself importing a package for some interfaces which sort of sucks too and which there were perhaps a better solution for. Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Roger Ineichen wrote: [snip] Is someone willing to help doing that task? I'm very

Re: [Zope-dev] Idea: Create SQL-Alchemy tables via interfaces

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
You may wish to look at z3c.dobbin, though the issue I have found in my own experimentation, is with association tables for many to many relationships which throws in a wrench into this otherwise elegant solution. There may be something to around this in future. Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: Hi,

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
much appreciated what you have done here. Martijn Faassen wrote: Benji York wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:40 AM, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to avoid the need for selective forking that Chris has found necessary to make progress with bfg. I want to continue using zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
this a priority. Jim On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:54 PM, David Pratt wrote: Hi there. I have been developing with zope3 for about 4 years and would like to see zope continue in a healthy way into the future. The last couple of years particularly have brought significant change in how we deploy

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
Hey Roger. Sounds reasonable to me. Can we also discuss the potential of only including testing setup for dev eggs and removing testing as part of a release when the eggs are packaged to pypi or other repository for consumption. Besides loosing the dependency, this makes for happier folks

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread David Pratt
Roger, what you say makes good sense. I will get agreement signed and sent and off to Jim. I am much more optimistic than I have been for a long time. This stuff has really been bothering me since I am concerned about efficient wsgi virtual host deployments and zope is unnecessarily heavy.

[Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-02 Thread David Pratt
Hi there. I have been developing with zope3 for about 4 years and would like to see zope continue in a healthy way into the future. The last couple of years particularly have brought significant change in how we deploy zope particularly with wsgi with or without the zodb. In addition, there is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope.sqlalchemy dependencies does not respect setup.py dev egg

2008-08-04 Thread David Pratt
that. Laurence David Pratt wrote: Hi. I have been working with z3c.dobbin 0.4.1 which uses zope.sqlalchemy and z3c.saconfig. The last usable state was 4 days ago when changes were made to release of zope.sqlalchemy where dependencies were changed without changing the version. Revision 88953

[Zope-dev] zope.sqlalchemy dependencies does not respect setup.py dev egg

2008-08-02 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I have been working with z3c.dobbin 0.4.1 which uses zope.sqlalchemy and z3c.saconfig. The last usable state was 4 days ago when changes were made to release of zope.sqlalchemy where dependencies were changed without changing the version. Revision 88953 was made to zope.sqlalchemy but

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope3 on Google AppEngine

2008-06-02 Thread David Pratt
Interesting post. I am still not sure to what level I'll look to Google for app infrastructure. Seems to me there are too many restrictions on what you'd really be able to deploy and then you're stuck with married to what they've got for better or worse. On the other hand, Stripping zope to

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Storm (SQL)

2008-05-25 Thread David Pratt
. I believe Storm may be a bit more precise as to what it wants to be. That translates into a bit more speed from all accounts. Jürgen kartnaller wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jurgen. Thank you for this informative

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope and Storm (SQL)

2008-05-24 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jurgen. Thank you for this informative post. I am particularly interested in how this fits into the refactoring of legacy code. I appreciate your sharing your experiences. I also think everyone has been paying much attention to the insight Lovely has been sharing on scaling and efficient

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope3 on Google AppEngine

2008-05-23 Thread David Pratt
, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jodok. Sounds interesting. Curious what you are replacing ZODB with. Are you using its interfaces to Relstorage / other ZODB backend, an ORM to map direct to rdb, or other database. Many thanks. right now we're using storm. for the application we plan to port

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope3 on Google AppEngine

2008-05-23 Thread David Pratt
storms advantage is that it is faster than sqlalchemy since it doesn't have to worry about pooling connections, mappers, and more. I'd be interesting to see a similar approach with storm. Good job on this. Regards, David Malthe Borch wrote: David Pratt wrote: Hi Jodok. I had looked at storm

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope3 on Google AppEngine

2008-05-23 Thread David Pratt
: David Pratt wrote: Hi Malthe. z3c.dobbin looks quite good and transparent. In my opinion, this is much closer to what integration ought to look like for CA. BTW, I noticed that z3c.dobbin is zpl but ore.alchemist that it depends on is gpl. I think all the other zope flavors of sqlalchemy

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope3 on Google AppEngine

2008-05-23 Thread David Pratt
solutions. Trails for grok is one possible solution for traversal but will be curious to see approaches for replacing containers. Regards David David Pratt wrote: Hi Malthe. Perhaps I am wrong about the licensing situation. I guess its a bit confusing since pypi indicates GPL and package ZPL. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope3 on Google AppEngine

2008-05-22 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jodok. Sounds interesting. Curious what you are replacing ZODB with. Are you using its interfaces to Relstorage / other ZODB backend, an ORM to map direct to rdb, or other database. Many thanks. Regards, David Jodok Batlogg wrote: Hi, Next week Lovely will be sprinting in New York/San

[Zope-dev] Building on python 2.5 - any progress?

2008-05-08 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I am wondering if there was any further resolution to builds with python 2.5 as discussed in the following articles: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2007-September/006909.html http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2007-September/006916.html In addition to the warnings

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: new zope.org, sphinx, and documentation management

2008-04-26 Thread David Pratt
Hey Paul. It's definitely something I want, so will examining this further and let you know if I come up with something. Regards, David Paul Carduner wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:48 AM, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul. Good work. Personally, I am interested in switching out

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: new zope.org, sphinx, and documentation management

2008-04-26 Thread David Pratt
= zc.recipe.egg scripts = sphinx-quickstart sphinx-web sphinx-build eggs = Sphinx docutils Pygments David Pratt wrote: Hey Paul. It's definitely something I want, so will examining this further and let you know if I come up with something. Regards, David Paul

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: new zope.org, sphinx, and documentation management

2008-04-25 Thread David Pratt
Hi Paul. Good work. Personally, I am interested in switching out the jinja templates for zpt or ctal since am not that keen about mixing template languages for myself. It looks like the more recent changes to sphinx should accommodate this with the template_bridge but have yet to investigate

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: new zope.org, sphinx, and documentation management

2008-04-24 Thread David Pratt
Hi Paul. This is beautiful. A recipe is what we need now. Send me a mail off list if you want some help with this. Regards, David Kent Tenney wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Paul Carduner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Paul Carduner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zope-dev] Annoying: Download error: unknown url type: svn -- Some packages may not be found!

2008-04-16 Thread David Pratt
Which package is emitting the Download error: unknown url type: svn -- Some packages may not be found! Its quite annoying and I have been seeing it crop up in a few builds. Anyone else seeing this. Many thanks. Regards, David ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: AW: [Zope-dev] Annoying: Download error: unknown url type: svn -- Some packages may not be found!

2008-04-16 Thread David Pratt
Hi Roger. I turned on debug and increased verbosity. z3c.template and z3c.form seem to be the culprits. Getting 4 of these warnings on z3c.template and 1 with z3c.form between the getting ... and picked ... notices. Not quite sure why they are emitting the warnings. Can't find the error in

[Zope-dev] A permanent log for buildouts

2008-04-14 Thread David Pratt
Has anyone already setup a more permanent log for buildouts. I am wanting a more permanent record of what has happened when buildout is run. I believe this likely ought to be part of zc.buildout so that you identify a buildout.log location. Many thanks. Regards, David

Re: [Zope-dev] A permanent log for buildouts

2008-04-14 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jim. Yes, I definitely want a logging configuration also. I'm at least hoping to look into the logging setup in the next couple of days in between some other things. Many thanks. Regards, David Jim Fulton wrote: On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:39 PM, David Pratt wrote: Has anyone already setup

Re: AW: [Zope-dev] Status of zam packages

2008-04-08 Thread David Pratt
be stable enough for production. Regards Roger Ineichen Chris Withers wrote: David Pratt wrote: I am hoping I can get a bit of an update on zam packages on zope svn. Many thanks. What is zam? Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http

Re: [Zope-dev] Status of zam packages

2008-04-07 Thread David Pratt
: David Pratt wrote: I am hoping I can get a bit of an update on zam packages on zope svn. Many thanks. What is zam? Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread David Pratt
Hi Martin. I would like to help with Zope 3 but could not commit to championing the effort as much as I might like to due to time constraints. I am prepared to write some articles, help with an introduction, or help review in conjunction with someone leading the Zope 3 effort. Are any of the

[Zope-dev] Status of zam packages

2008-04-03 Thread David Pratt
I am hoping I can get a bit of an update on zam packages on zope svn. Many thanks. Regards, David ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] How do I automatically login a user

2008-04-03 Thread David Pratt
Thanks Jim for doing this. Actually, the domain is something I have been looking for also. These other features are really nice. I am hoping this can be worked into something like z3c.authentication for generic use. Hoping roger is following this. Regards, David Jim Fulton wrote: Let's

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jim. What does this mean? Will the new package be a drop in replacement for what we have without some direction on what to do with the other bit or will it break our applications. A working publisher is pretty essential to a functioning zope app. Does this mean the end of deprecation

Re: [Zope-dev] Reducing dependencies of zope.publisher

2008-03-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jim. OK great. Many thanks for elaborating. This will be progressive. I had been considering an application use case without a zodb. Is this the scenario that the basic publisher would facilitate? Regards, David Jim Fulton wrote: On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:10 PM, David Pratt wrote: Hi Jim

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope.sendmail Retry fixes and new state machine.

2008-03-11 Thread David Pratt
Hi Andreas. I think your response gets to the heart of the issue. For software to be useful, it is often more important for folks other than the author to understand it. This can only occur with communication. Sometimes it is the understanding of edgecases in particular, that gets lost over

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout-based buildbot back

2008-03-05 Thread David Pratt
Thanks Christian. I am interested in this. Are there significant changes to what you are doing now? I'll checkout what you have in the Sandbox in the interim. Many thanks. Regards, David Christian Theune wrote: Hi, David Pratt schrieb: Hi Christian. How difficult was this to get running. I

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout-based buildbot back

2008-03-04 Thread David Pratt
Hi Christian. How difficult was this to get running. I am considering a a local buildbot for my own code. The structure of my repository emulates the structure of svn.zope.org. Many thanks. Regards, David Christian Theune wrote: Hi, it took a while, but here it is: I've put the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-25 Thread David Pratt
of obfuscation or magic. You may consider a recipe and utility script that uses versions to help build a setup.py. It would seem more in line with the character of the software. Regards, David Martijn Faassen wrote: David Pratt wrote: Hi. I agree with Jim. Buildout is doing the right thing

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-23 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I agree with Jim. Buildout is doing the right thing. This is not a conflict since you have explicitly identified the software with a version already. I think the right thing to do under the circumstances would be to append a custom versions.cfg to nail the versions you want. KGS versions

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-23 Thread David Pratt
. Regards, David Christophe Combelles wrote: David Pratt a écrit : Hi. I agree with Jim. Buildout is doing the right thing. This is not a conflict since you have explicitly identified the software with a version already. I think the right thing to do under the circumstances would be to append

Re: [Zope] MySQL-python-1.2.2 breaks compiling on Mac OS X 10.5 (Andy Dustman?)

2008-02-21 Thread David Pratt
21, 2008 at 3:01 AM, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hugo. I believe 'file is not of required architecture' may be the clue here. Ever since mac went to universal binaries, folks with ppc have been having trouble since it is compiled with i386 arch flags and vice versa for folks

Re: [Zope] MySQL-python-1.2.2 breaks compiling on Mac OS X 10.5 (Andy Dustman?)

2008-02-20 Thread David Pratt
Hi Hugo. I believe 'file is not of required architecture' may be the clue here. Ever since mac went to universal binaries, folks with ppc have been having trouble since it is compiled with i386 arch flags and vice versa for folks with intel macs (with ppc arch flags). The only way to get

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 without ZODB

2008-02-15 Thread David Pratt
Cool Jim. Will take a look and read. This is what the wonderful world of packages and wsgi is all about :-). I am also going to check out Kapil's solution for some other things. I am pretty comfortable with the zope's publisher and configuration. Regards, David Jim Washington wrote: Kapil

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 without ZODB

2008-02-15 Thread David Pratt
via utility and traversal continues from there. i've been using it successfully for a number of relational apps without the zodb. hth, kapil On Jan 15, 2008 1:27 PM, Jim Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Pratt wrote: Hi Chris. I was scanning

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2008-02-15 Thread David Pratt
Hi Tres. Appreciate your reply. I examine the packages you have identified. Many thanks. Regards, David Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Pratt wrote: Cool Jim. Will take a look and read. This is what the wonderful world of packages and wsgi is all about

[Zope-dev] zc.extrinsicreference release

2008-02-11 Thread David Pratt
Hi. Wondering if zc.extrinsicreference ought to be included in the versions.cfg. Currently it is at 0.1dev. It has been this way in the repository for about a year. Could/should it be released? Many thanks. Regards, David ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread David Pratt
I would say so also. Since z2, z3 both be released in future as eggs, I I expect the only difference to be in kgs that ensures a working set of packages (whether it is zope3, zope2, or for that matter any other project). Any sort of release in the future should only reflect a state of a

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread David Pratt
1, 2008 4:09 PM, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] It might be nice for the marketing of zope to give each set of eggs a nice name. Just using familiar mozilla names as an illustration, see how nice zope-thunderbird or zope-firefox look. So do away with the kgs in the name and create

[Zope-dev] Zope 3 without ZODB

2008-01-15 Thread David Pratt
Hi Chris. I was scanning the lists looking for posts similar to this. Were you successful in getting something like this to work? Anyone else document anything like this? I wrote a different main.py at some point about a year or so ago so both twisted clients and servers to could be started

Re: [Zope] Re: ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-22 Thread David Pratt
I would also agree the different license has caused this issue. I don't think that it is beneficial to rehash past decisions but better to offer up solutions that are reasonably considered. The problem posed is that that GPL'd code will normally have only GPL consumers. To this end, there is

Re: [Zope] ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Ross. The ZPL is a brief and concise license. It is clear on providing attribution of authors and copyright. The other requirements it imposes are fairly minimal. Other than this, it permits the code to be used in virtually any manner. The components in the Zope repository upon which Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] zcml entry points

2007-10-18 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I can also see potential uses for this. Hopefully the utility will implemented as a zpl package so that it may eventually make it into zope.configuration. Many thanks. Regards, David Jim Fulton wrote: I understand that some folks would fine something like this to be very useful. I can

Re: [Zope-dev] AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-07 Thread David Pratt
Andreas Jung wrote: We don't need to start a discussion about the architecture. Apparently we do as since we are talking about zope 3's development forum. This is where discussions and decisions for zope 3 occur and I don't want this necessarily combined and heavily influenced by zope 2

Re: [Zope-dev] AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-07 Thread David Pratt
or who wish to monitor this should subscribe to the list. Regards, David Dieter Maurer wrote: David Pratt wrote at 2007-10-7 12:17 -0300: ... Zope 2 is a single application Are you sure you know Zope2 ? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-06 Thread David Pratt
I agree with you Roger. I want things to stay as they are for the same reasons. I have great respect for Zope 2 developers however there there are two development paradigms at play that are fundamentally incompatible despite the inclusion of component architecture in Zope 2. Regards, David

Re: [Zope-dev] AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-06 Thread David Pratt
community under a generic zope flag. In any case, long message, but I hope this clarifies my view on this. Regards, David Andreas Jung wrote: --On 6. Oktober 2007 12:03:06 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you Roger. I want things to stay as they are for the same reasons

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Static Zope 3 APIDOC available!

2007-09-28 Thread David Pratt
Very nice. Many thanks for this. Regards, David Baiju M wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I am happy to announce that the second Foliage sprint task is completed. Julian Bonilla, Graham Stratton and I worked on the outstanding issues on creating a functional version of the

[Zope] Re: [Zope3-Users] z3c.form 1.4.0, z3c.formui 1.1.0, and z3c.formdemo 1.2.0 released!

2007-07-03 Thread David Pratt
, again thanks to the great feedback we received -- especially from David Pratt, Roy Mathew, and Joachim Werner -- we were able to fine-tune our new form framework even more to make it as robust of a foundation as possible for your projects! New features include group support, fully internationalized

Re: [Zope] z3c.form 1.3.0, z3c.formui 1.0.1, and z3c.formdemo 1.1.0 released!

2007-06-22 Thread David Pratt
Hi Stephan. This is some really awesome work and some great new examples as well. There is more to explore and to anticipate with ajax - it is all really very excellent. When running the demo, I needed to add zope.rdb to the setup.py and its corresponding meta and configuration files to

Re: [Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette

2006-08-08 Thread David Pratt
-0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the top of most files as well

[Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette

2006-08-07 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the top of most files as well as the LICENSE.txt in the package itself. When

[Zope] Twisted Z2

2006-05-17 Thread David Pratt
Can someone point me to Zope2 running Twisted server from Paris ecm sprint. I see at least three branches that look like Z2 Twisted refactoring in the svn. Can someone explain differences between these. Many thanks. Regards, David ___ Zope maillist

Re: [Zope] Twisted Z2

2006-05-17 Thread David Pratt
Wow. That's great. I realize this is all still experimental but will https server be added to the mix? Regards, David Andreas Jung wrote: The stuff has been merged on the Zope trunk and is documented in the CHANGE.txt file. -aj --On 17. Mai 2006 10:00:47 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope] First run TypeError

2006-05-07 Thread David Pratt
RequestContainer instance instead) The third GET always succeeds (200 ok) in allowing authentication. The instance behaves as normal in every regard afterwards. This only occurs on startup. Regards, David David Pratt wrote: Hi. I have been experimenting with making a hybrid storage for zodb

Re: [Zope] First run TypeError

2006-05-07 Thread David Pratt
objects with the initial threads to the storage before serving requests. Regards David Andreas Jung wrote: --On 7. Mai 2006 09:04:54 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a bit more information from my Z2.log: On a normal startup attempt with data.fs: I get one or two lines

Re: [Zope] First run TypeError

2006-05-07 Thread David Pratt
I managed a fix to my threading and it solved my trouble. It was a bit sidetracked earlier with the Type Error message. My hunch was right in the end. Many thanks. Regards, David David Pratt wrote: Hi Andreas. I have been experimenting with creating backend storages for zope

[Zope] First run TypeError

2006-05-06 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I have been experimenting with making a hybrid storage for zodb. The storage seems to work well except that I am getting this error on the first request to the server and I am not exactly sure where it is coming from. Error Type: TypeError Error Value: unbound method method_descriptor

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread David Pratt
Tres Seaver wrote: - Another possibility would be to use 'repozo' to create deltas on the primary, and then propagate them to the secondary via rsync, then apply them via 'repozo'. Hi Tres. I have also been investigating strategies but had not thought of this possibility. I am not

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread David Pratt
Andreas Jung wrote: repozo does not help you syncing multiple ZEO server..it just performs an incremental backup of an existing Data.fs file. And I don't know of any solution have multiple master ZEO servers. There can be only one. -aj For sure. I guess the best one could have would be

Re: [Zope] Re: Zeo as a Zeo Client

2006-05-02 Thread David Pratt
Tres Seaver wrote: ZRS secondaries go into recovery mode whenever they lose connection with the promary: that recovery is sufficient to allow it to resync (even to bring up a new, empty secondary). Hi Tres. This is sort of how I envisioned ZRS (though I have never seen or used it). I

Re: [Zope] zope.conf question

2006-04-25 Thread David Pratt
, wouldn't that be great? Regards, David Dieter Maurer wrote: David Pratt wrote at 2006-4-24 18:29 -0300: Is there a way to create an INSTANCE_HOME variable in zope.conf more dynamically than hardcoding the path. I want an app to be platform portable so this will be different? I fear

[Zope] zope.conf question

2006-04-24 Thread David Pratt
Hi. Is there a way to create an INSTANCE_HOME variable in zope.conf more dynamically than hardcoding the path. I want an app to be platform portable so this will be different? Alternatively, I have been considering overriding zope.conf settings for use in zope.app.twisted.main and an

Re: [Zope] Generic SQL insert

2006-04-17 Thread David Pratt
I agree. I am just starting to work with zalchemy in Zope3 and looking to try and make it work with Five so I have it for Zope2. Regards, David Chris Withers wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: Whenever I'm using SQL databases in zope, I always seem to have to make a ZSQL instance for

[Zope] Structure for large schema

2006-04-17 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I had asked this question on zope3 about a week ago or so an had no responses. I am hoping I can receive some general guidance on this issue. I am trying to determine the best structure for storing a large schema where some attributes are lists or dictionaries. There are about 70

Re: [Zope] Structure for large schema

2006-04-17 Thread David Pratt
2006 14:08:38 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I had asked this question on zope3 about a week ago or so an had no responses. I am hoping I can receive some general guidance on this issue. I am trying to determine the best structure for storing a large schema where some attributes

Re: [Zope] How do you get custom made portal tabs to highlight

2006-03-25 Thread David Pratt
Hi Julian. The actions tool allows you to group actions. CMF on its own has nothing called portal tabs. This is Plone talk I believe. If you are developing in CMF which I am assuming, you are speaking of actions. Any object type can provide actions. In any case, it boils down to writing a

Re: [Zope] best practice, CSS Stylesheets

2006-03-21 Thread David Pratt
Anyone have any idea whether dynamic css via dtml will remain possible as CMF gets more Z3'ish? Or will only possibility be overrides in css itself. Regards, David Peter Bengtsson wrote: Tino Wildenhain wrote: Peter Bengtsson schrieb: John Huttley wrote: Hi, What is the best way of

Re: [Zope] Status of blobs and rdb plugged into ZODB

2006-03-04 Thread David Pratt
Hi Andreas. Many thanks for the update. I'll stay tuned. Regards, David Andreas Jung wrote: --On 3. März 2006 18:29:33 -0400 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have written a blob type product about a year or so ago and I remember at that time there was the promise of being able

[Zope] Status of blobs and rdb plugged into ZODB

2006-03-03 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I have written a blob type product about a year or so ago and I remember at that time there was the promise of being able to plug different backends into the ZODB. This was to be one of the new features of ZODB that would allow some interesting things to occur. What is the status of this

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread David Pratt
I think this should be doable for single cert with multiple domains. Setup you exising ip with one domain (ie. mysecure_domain.com). Get the cert on this domain. Setup a rewrite rule in apache for port 443 for mysecure_domain.com You could use a self signed cert to experiment. When user logs

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread David Pratt
not follow it through at the time. I am use CMF not Plone however. Regards, David Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 24 Jan 2006, at 18:10, David Pratt wrote: I think this should be doable for single cert with multiple domains. Setup you exising ip with one domain (ie. mysecure_domain.com). Get

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread David Pratt
actually doing anything in Zope. As long as VHM is on it is all fine. Thanks Michael On 1/24/06, *David Pratt* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this should be doable for single cert with multiple domains. Setup you exising ip with one domain (ie

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread David Pratt
at the time when I was trying to work this out for myself with CMF. Regards, David David Pratt wrote: Hi Michael. First you need a way to get to the root of your site two different ways. First is using the domain you have your ssl on and the other for your other domain name(s) www.domain_one.com

Re: [Zope] CMF 2.0.0-alpha released

2006-01-23 Thread David Pratt
This is very cool!! I have been really looking forward to working with this!! Many thanks to those that are making this happen and are pushing Zope2 to the next level! Regards, David Jens Vagelpohl wrote: The CMF developer community and Zope Corporation are pleased to announce the release of

Re: [Zope] Zope and Sqlite3 adapter

2006-01-21 Thread David Pratt
: On 1/21/06, *David Pratt* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dieter. Many thanks. :-) I was hoping there might be something but if I cannot locate anything existing, I will likely go this route if I can find a bit more time. isn't this it? http

Re: [Zope] What product to choose?

2006-01-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Karlo. Just a few thoughts... I think you would be wise to choose Zope2 for the moment if you feel CMF is the best fit since it is tried and true. Also due to availability of getting help or availability of documentation if your time is tight. I have been developing with Zope2 for almost

[Zope] Zope and Sqlite3 adapter

2006-01-20 Thread David Pratt
Hi can someone advise whether there is an adapter for sqlite3 for zope. I normally use Postgres but I am curious about this for lightweight use. I realize sqlite3 is not multi-threaded itself but might be fine for small volume sites (if it can be forced to use a single thread for interaction

Re: [Zope] Zope and Sqlite3 adapter

2006-01-20 Thread David Pratt
Hi Dieter. Many thanks. :-) I was hoping there might be something but if I cannot locate anything existing, I will likely go this route if I can find a bit more time. Regards, David Dieter Maurer wrote: David Pratt wrote at 2006-1-20 10:00 -0400: Hi can someone advise whether

Re: [Zope] Re: ZDaemon for wsgi server

2005-12-26 Thread David Pratt
will eventually use twisted wsgi server. Will Zope2 be going this direction as well or will this be a dead end with ZServer? Regards, David Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Pratt wrote: Hi I am looking at light wsgi servers to serve an app but want

[Zope] ZDaemon for wsgi server

2005-12-20 Thread David Pratt
Hi I am looking at light wsgi servers to serve an app but want it to be started from command line and have the thread spun off so it stays running (instead of tying up a terminal until a interrupt is given). I was thinking that perhaps ZDaemon could do this since perhaps I could also get

Re: [Zope] [ANN] TextIndexNG 3.1.1 released

2005-12-03 Thread David Pratt
Can TextIndexNG V 3 be used to provide full text search with content stored in a relational database or and accessed through zsql (or potentially other sources besides content within zodb)? I realize this sounds strange since postgres can be made to do a full text search but I am thinking

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope's Webdav port for RESTful web service

2005-11-28 Thread David Pratt
for this which is reason for possible use of webdav port instead of regular port. Regards, David On Monday, November 28, 2005, at 09:26 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Pratt wrote: Hi Tino. Here are a couple of links that describe it. Boils down

[Zope] Zope's Webdav port for RESTful web service

2005-11-26 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I am looking at how to implement a RESTful web service in Zope2. Has anyone implemented such a thing that could provide any advice. Is it possible just to use the existing webdav port for this to provide a dedicated port? The only thing close I can think of at the moment is SchoolTool

Re: [Zope] Zope's Webdav port for RESTful web service

2005-11-26 Thread David Pratt
wrote: Am Samstag, den 26.11.2005, 21:17 -0400 schrieb David Pratt: Hi. I am looking at how to implement a RESTful web service in Zope2. Could you expand a bit on whatever a RESTful web service is? thx Tino ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http

[Zope] SQLOS, Zope2 and Five

2005-10-25 Thread David Pratt
SQLObject has been updated since original release of SQLOS. It appeared to me yesterday, reviewing the trunk of SVN of SQLOS that it looks like it has being brought up to date. New versions of Five (1.2 and 1.3) also appear to be released soon. I am anxious to move to a different approach to

Re: [Zope] securing webdav

2005-09-24 Thread David Pratt
Hi Sascha. I realize that you can forward a port this way but this requires providing server accounts to users in addition to zope accounts. scponly is a product to remove other shell functionality - so you can hand out accounts in a more untrusted situation. Either way, handing out server

Re: [Zope] filesystem directory view

2005-09-23 Thread David Pratt
Hi David. I would recommend at the blob product. I have been using it with success in CMF. I would consider it a starting point for where you may want to take it. If you are looking for something already developed and ready to go, I would recommend ATManagedFile from Enfold if you plan on using

Re: [Zope] securing webdav

2005-09-23 Thread David Pratt
Hi Tino. Over HTTP is not the problem. It is more on normally https you are rewriting your requests to port 443 with apache proxy and your usual webdav server is port 1980 that is not secure. I am in the same boat as David. I haven't got my webdav running securely at this point either. The

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