Re: [FW-1] Basic Licensing Question

2004-06-12 Thread Ray
No, do not license the internal IP of the gateway. You want to apply all
licenses to the management station, as you noted, using central licensing.
This enables you to change the external IP of the gateway without having to
relicense it.
This article skI2574 explains how to remotely install a module license using
SmartUpdate. SmartUpdate is available to everyone to handle licensing even
if you haven't paid for the license for its remote upgrade capabilities.
Briefly, you will set up SIC between the SmartCenter server and the remote
gateway as explained in the article. SIC is an SSL certificate-authenticated
connection. The remote gateway will have to accept control connections
(which are in its implied rules). The connection will be between the
SmartCenter server on the private range out through its local gateway over
the Internet to the external IP of the remote gateway.
Hopefully I understood your concern.
Ray
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This is my first post to this list and am somewhat new to CP.  I have taken
over CP admin from a previous employee who used to only set up integrated
mgmt/fw systems.  I am setting up a first distributed config, separate mgmt
and fw systems and have a basic license question.  I was under the
impression that licensing had to be done according to the external
interface
which is giving me problems as my mgmt is behind the fw inside a private
range.  Can I license against the private range without issue?  I will be
adding a few more fw modules external to the mgmt site.  I am familiar
enough with the product itself however haven't had any real experience
outside of integrated mgmt/fw systems so centralized licenses are new to
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Re: [FW-1] Complicated remote access problem using an internal firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Ray
Hi Joachim,
Since we've always used Office Mode, I never have understood or used IP
Pool NAT and I'm not really sure what it does. There's no way I can have
the IP Pool NAT behind the gateway route because it's at totally different
network than we use. Can SR users getting an IP Pool NAT hide behind the
gateway IP address?
That would work.
Thanks,
Ray
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We would like to let them still use SecuRemote to connect to B and get
authenticated. We would have to add the new subnet X to the encryption
domain of B but it's actually considered as external to B.
you might get away using a NAT pool for the SR clients on B.
Define the NAT pool as internal to B and make a rule on B which allows the
NAT pool access to X.
Then take care that the NAT pool is being routed from X to B.
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Re: [FW-1] Complicated remote access problem using an internal firewall

2004-06-15 Thread Ray
Well, it's partially working but I don't think it's going to work as I want.
Adding the IP Pool NAT changed it so that when I tracert to X from
SecuRemote, my first hop is now B's external interface whereas it timed out
before. It now times out after this hop.
If I'm reading this right, the network I'm using for IP Pool NAT must be
able to be routed on its own between the B gateway and the X network. That's
not going to happen because our internal routers are managed and it takes an
act of the Almighty to get those things changed. Also, B is not the internal
network's gateway out of the network, it's a host on that network.
Is there any way to add a NAT rule so that the IP Pool NAT network on B can
use Hide NAT so that it appears to be B's external IP address to our
internal network?
Thanks,
Ray
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We would like to let them still use SecuRemote to connect to B and get
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domain of B but it's actually considered as external to B.
you might get away using a NAT pool for the SR clients on B.
Define the NAT pool as internal to B and make a rule on B which allows the
NAT pool access to X.
Then take care that the NAT pool is being routed from X to B.
good luck
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Re: [FW-1] vpn licence question

2004-06-16 Thread Ray
Mine are central licenses on the management station so I can use them with
any gateway.
Ray

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hello all!
i have an R55/stonebeat cluster, and I'd like to add a vpn licence to this
cluster
the question is: on which address the vpn licence should be set on? the
cluster external (public) virtual-IP or one licence per real-IP? or even
somewhere else than the public address?
thank a lot
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Re: [FW-1] VPN-1 Edge device

2004-06-16 Thread Ray
Hi Tom,
What sort of issues are you having? I'm getting my first Edge box on Friday
to mess around with. If you check Nokia's KB and search on HFA you'll see
they have the release notes posted for HFA 05  06. I think there were a few
Edge fixes in HFA05 as well.
Based solely on my reading, you need to be using a Simplified policy and
msut use certificate authentication.
I've got SmartCenter Pro and just got SmartLSM fired up today. Are you using
LSM?
Ray
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I have been trying to get a VPN edge device to work in our lab with little
to no success. I am wondering if there is any white papers out there that
might help me get this working.
I have a Provider-1 install R-55 HP4
Nokia IP-530 R55 HP4
edge-x
Thank You for any help in this.
Tom
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[FW-1] encryption failure: decrypted methods didn't match rule (VPN Error code 03)

2004-06-17 Thread Ray
Some of my SecureClient users is suddenly getting this error:
Encryption Scheme:  IKE
Encryption Methods: ESP: AES-128 + SHA1 + DEFLATE
Information:encryption failure: decrypted methods didn't
match rule (VPN Error code 03)
I can't find it in the SecureKnowledge KB. I applied HFA06 to R55 a few days
ago.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!
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Re: [FW-1] DNS Zone Transfers

2004-06-17 Thread Ray
What software are the DNS servers running? NT, 2000, BIND ? If BIND 9, go
into SmartDefense and try unchecking its DNS protection.
Looks like your masters are running BIND 9, at least the external ones.
Unless you've spoofed the version check, that is.
http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=howcogroup.com
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Hi All,
Have problem with secondary dns servers trying to do zone transfers with
primary dns servers, sites not connected via checkpoint transfer ok, sites
connected via vpn do not. Have enabled accept domain name over udp/tcp
with no changes. dont see any drops in logs. anyone any thoughts
Rgds
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Re: [FW-1] new HFA for R55 - HFA06

2004-06-17 Thread Ray
Hi Simon,
It looks like Check Point is posting them on their web site only if they
contain security-related fixes. I suspect that is why they did not post
HFA05  HFA06.
If you have a Check Point support contract, contact them and ask for it.  We
have our support through Nokia and that's where I picked it up. We're
getting our first Edge box tomorrow and these fixes corrected some
Edge-related issues.
CSP might be some kind of Check Point partner/dealer program. I guess if we
have to ask, we don't have a need to know. :-)
Take care,
Ray
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How soon do these appear for non-CSP's? (what is a CSP?) - I can only see
HFA04 for R55 on Windows on my login.
Cheers
Simon
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hi,
for CSPs this HFA is available in CSP download...
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Re: [FW-1] VPN-1 Edge device

2004-06-18 Thread Ray
I did'nt know about the backwards compatibility requirement, either. Our
Check Point SE is supposed to be at our local user group meeting this
morning. If I remember I'll ask him.
Thanks for reporting what worked,
Ray
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No Problem but the lack of documentation, I fiunally got this working today
with LSM.
I did not realize that you need backwards compatability runing for the
SOFAWARE.
I am going to go through the whole setup again tomorrow,
our management is on UNIX Provider-1
But we will be using LSM to manage the VPN Edge.
It seems to be simple enough to setup now but if oyu go by the very few
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it does not work well.
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Re: [FW-1] DNS Zone Transfers

2004-06-18 Thread Ray
Hi Mark,
Did you push the policy after unchecking it? Are there any event log errors?
Ray

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using 2000, have unchecked the udp protocol enforcement but still cant
transfer zones.
i am just using internal dns between subnets, all are ok apart for sites
via
fw's
all other traffic is normal between sites
Rgds
Mark
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What software are the DNS servers running? NT, 2000, BIND ? If BIND 9, go
into SmartDefense and try unchecking its DNS protection.
Looks like your masters are running BIND 9, at least the external ones.
Unless you've spoofed the version check, that is.
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Hi All,

Have problem with secondary dns servers trying to do zone transfers with
primary dns servers, sites not connected via checkpoint transfer ok,
sites
connected via vpn do not. Have enabled accept domain name over udp/tcp
with no changes. dont see any drops in logs. anyone any thoughts

Rgds
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Re: [FW-1] encryption failure: decrypted methods didn't match rule (VPN Error code 03)

2004-06-18 Thread Ray
Thanks Russell. I found a similar KB article that suggested we had partially
overlapping encryption domains. Only a few SecureClient people, all Windows
XP, were experiencing this issue, though. They also were seeing a tunnel
test failed message on login.
However, since we had just reconfigured the encryption domain on one of the
two gateways a day earlier, it was worth looking into. I ran vpn
overlap_encdom on the controlling SmartCenter server per SK21541 and it
reported that none of the encryption domains overlapped.
I put the encryption domain on the one gateway back to where it was and the
problem stopped. Go figure.
Ray
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Hi Ray,
I had a similar problem the solution was to change PFS from 1024 bit back
to 768 bit (originally
768bit).
Ray wrote:
Some of my SecureClient users is suddenly getting this error:
Encryption Scheme:  IKE
Encryption Methods: ESP: AES-128 + SHA1 + DEFLATE
Information:encryption failure: decrypted methods
didn't
match rule (VPN Error code 03)
I can't find it in the SecureKnowledge KB. I applied HFA06 to R55 a few
days
ago.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated!
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[FW-1] Management High Availablilty licensing question

2004-06-21 Thread Ray
We have a SmartCenter Pro unlimited IP license on R55. It also has a
SmartDefense license and 500 SecureClient licenses. It uses central
licensing and manages an IP530 primarily. SmartCenter Pro does come with a
Management HA license.
We also have an IP120 that was purchased about a year earlier that has a 5
IP license, no SmartDefense and no SecureClient licenses. It used to have
its own management server.
We moved the IP120 management on to the SmartCenter Pro a few months ago to
free up the Windows 2000 server license it used. The IP120 had its license
moved to the SmartCenter Pro central licensing.
If I'm reading the KB articles correctly, we only need the one HA license on
the SmartCenter Pro to implement management high availability. Since we have
a license for SmartCenter for the management server that used to manage the
IP120, it appears we can use its license as a secondary management station
to the main SmartCenter Pro. Is this correct?
The part that concerns me is where the articles say that the secondary
management server must have the same feature set licenses. Does this mean
we have to buy another SmartDefense license and another 500 SecureClient
licenses to put on the secondary management station?
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Re: [FW-1] VPN-1 Edge device

2004-06-22 Thread Ray
I'd appreciate a copy. Our Check Point SE in the Cleveland area has been
super-helpful. I got the demo box last Friday and we've been exchanging
emails and phone calls so I can get it figured out. They did get me the
latest beta firmware to test with as well.
Since I'm on R55, the Sofaware connector is already installed but only
partially activated. You have to run smsstart.bat to get the rest of it
running.
I haven't tried LSM yet although I do have the Edge X working as a remote
gateway. I also haven't gotten the part about getting it to talk to
SmartCenter figured out yet either.  :-) I will admit that I prefer to read
and experiment, though.
One issue is that it's dropping some service as being in a different
community ID. I think it's SWTP_SMS. There's supposed to be a new implied
rule in R55 so you don't have to manually exclude it from the VPN community.
I even manually excluded it but it's still getting dropped.
The main issues I've run into has to do with how we have our main gateway
set up with regard to routing and its encryption domain set up. We've got
about 22 subnets behind the gateway and will be moving most of them to VPNs
hopefully. This, of course, means I can no longer use my gateway static
route of
192.168.0.0/17 - internal router
and I have to add individual static routes for each internal network.
Otherwise when I throw a packet at the Edge gateway's internal network from
the main internal network, it comes right back. And to think I never could
make a boomerang work...
I have to do the same thing with the encryption domain, otherwise packets
coming from the test Edge box get dropped as being decrypted when the
policy says they don't have to be.
The issue I'm working on now is that I can ping everything on the internal
network from a laptop behind the Edge box, but when I try to ping the Edge
box from some of the subnets, but not all, I get a no valid SA error. I
now have a one-and-a-half VPN!
Ray
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:54:27 -0400
Well I finally have the VPN edge device working with LSM. It works pretty
slick but there was very limited help from CheckPoint on getting this setup
and working correctly, I am actually going to be giving it a live test
tomorrow.
I am working on a doc with the steps needed, when I am absolutely sure I
have it all correct I will be glad to share it out.
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I did'nt know about the backwards compatibility requirement, either. Our
Check Point SE is supposed to be at our local user group meeting this
morning. If I remember I'll ask him.
Thanks for reporting what worked,
Ray
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No Problem but the lack of documentation, I fiunally got this working
today
with LSM.

I did not realize that you need backwards compatability runing for the
SOFAWARE.

I am going to go through the whole setup again tomorrow,

our management is on UNIX Provider-1

But we will be using LSM to manage the VPN Edge.
It seems to be simple enough to setup now but if oyu go by the very few
docs
it does not work well.

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Re: [FW-1] NG FP3 Upgrade suggestions

2004-06-22 Thread Ray
Hi Rick,
What made you decide to go to 3.8? I didn't see anything compelling in it as
 iread the release notes.
Thanks,
Ray

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I've deployed 3.8 to about 15 firewalls and havent had any problems
except the authentication failures in a clustered configuration. Its
also about 12MB smaller than 3.7.1-010.
Grabowski, David wrote:
Management station: NG FP3 HFA_322 on W2K
Modules (4): NG FP3 HFA_322 on IPSO 3.6 FCS 13 on IP440
Considering an upgrade to R55. Planning to install the latest HFA.
The big question: IPSO 3.7 or IPSO 3.8?
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Re: [FW-1] NG FP3 Upgrade suggestions

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
Thanks, that's interesting news. I'll have to go re-read the release notes.
Ray

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Hi,
There was acutually a few things that it fixed for us, its in the pdf
release notes. It also helped with some of the out of state packets we
have been seeing wiht certain tcp connections in the logs. We tested it
in our lab for a week before rolling it out and noticed a significant
peformance increase as well, even with installing policies.
Rick
Ray wrote:
Hi Rick,
What made you decide to go to 3.8? I didn't see anything compelling in
it as
 iread the release notes.
Thanks,
Ray

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I've deployed 3.8 to about 15 firewalls and havent had any problems
except the authentication failures in a clustered configuration. Its
also about 12MB smaller than 3.7.1-010.
Grabowski, David wrote:
Management station: NG FP3 HFA_322 on W2K
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Re: [FW-1] Rule 998: DCE-RPC Problems

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
Hi Phillip,
- How can we turn this SmartDefense stuff off for the DCE-RPC
It may not be a SmartDefense drop. We had several DCERPC problems after
changing from SecureClient R54 to R55 and had a case with Check Point 
Nokia. The gateway and SmartCenter were on R55 base already. Our problems
were related to using DCERPC via SecureClient (Outlook to Exchange) , but
that's the only way we allow that protocol through the gateway.
- Did we something wrong (see steps above or in the link)
Probably not.
- Did anyone else experience similar problems???
Never used R54. Went from FP3 to R55.
- If we upgrade to R55 is it enought to upgrade the management server
or do we need to upgrade also all the nodes?
That's a good question. According to the release notes, no, you don't need
to upgrade the gateways to get the DCERPC fixes. HFA03 for R55 fixed almost
all of of the issues we were having with DCERPC  SecureClient. Oddly, the
fixes didn't work until after we upgraded the gateway. We have a distributed
environment. Maybe it was because we were experiencing it with SecureClient.
Don't know...
Any help would be highly appreciated.
I don't know your setup, but if possible you should take the management
station to R55  HFA06 and see what happens. You can still manage the R54
gateways with it. If that doesn't help, take the gateways to R55  HFA06 as
well. The Check Point people we were working with indicated DCERPC handling
had an extensive overhaul in the later HFAs of R55.
FWIW,
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Re: [FW-1] VPN-1 Edge device

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
You cannot use vpn community object in the
rulebase if you have an edge device . You have to use implicit vpn rule
(checkbox in the community object).
Having fought this battle yesterday, I can assure you that you can use a
community object in the rule base. The way to get it to work is to change
the Install On column from * Policy Targets to the actual gateway that
the rule applies to.
When I had it as * Policy Targets, I got an error on Verify for every rule
that had a VPN Community specified in the if via column, even though they
were different communities.
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Re: [FW-1] Anti-Virus through SecureClient NG

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
Set block on unverified to true in the local.scv file. It's a global
setting, meaning that if any of the SCV checks are unverified, the
connection is blocked. They can connect to the gateway and get
authenticated, but they can't go anywhere.
Ray

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:08:33 +0300
I don't understand exactly what is it that you want to do, but, McAfee has
released VirusScan v7.1.0 which includes a plug-in for
Secure Client.
::Quote:: (ReadMe.txt from VirusScan v7.1.0)
-  Check Point(TM) VPN-1/Firewall-1R SCV
   integration. The VirusScan Enterprise
   software has been updated to integrate with
   Check Point VPN-1/Firewall-1 SCV. When
   installed and enabled, the Check Point
   product can be configured to prevent clients
   without up-to-date anti-virus protection
   from accessing the corporate network through
   the VPN.
I don't know though how on earth the Check Point product can be configured
to prevent...!!! Maybe your client's McAfee retailer is
a good place to start asking questions or McAfee knowledge base (though
you'll need a username/password to access that).
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Dimitris
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Hi there
My client is using secureclient through NG FP3 HF2 using IP pool, I have a
Mcafee anti virus server sitting inside the lan and i am looking for a way
to get it talking to the secure clients when they are connected. I just
wanted to find out whether any of you guys have an internal LAN AV server
(not in DMZ) pushing updates to secure client boxes when they log in. Any
advice on how to configure this or what products you have been able to get
working would be greatly appreciated
cheers
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Re: [FW-1] VPN-1 Edge device

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
Hmmm, that's a very good idea!
Thanks!
Ray
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:22:35 -0400
I just created a new rule base and called it  Edge-profiles, changed the
install target to the profile object this way I keep my rules separate.
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 You cannot use vpn community object in the
 rulebase if you have an edge device . You have to use implicit vpn rule
 (checkbox in the community object).

 Having fought this battle yesterday, I can assure you that you can use a
 community object in the rule base. The way to get it to work is to
change
 the Install On column from * Policy Targets to the actual gateway
that
 the rule applies to.

 When I had it as * Policy Targets, I got an error on Verify for every
rule
 that had a VPN Community specified in the if via column, even though
they
 were different communities.

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[FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
I have the Edge X box set in a VPN Mesh community and it is talking back and
forth to the primary gateway's encryption domain. These are the only two
objects in the community so far.
First problem: We need all traffic from the Edge box routed down the VPN,
even Internet traffic. When setting up an Edge box manually, there is a
setup dialog do to just this. With it part of the community, I can't figure
out how to route non-VPN Domain traffic down the VPN to the main gateway.
This non-VPN Domain traffic isn't even getting logged anywhere that I can
find. It seems to be getting dropped by the Edge firewall. A traceroute from
the Edge internal network to an Internet address ends at the internal
interface of the Edge box.
Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
SmartCenter server? I can't see that it's doing that.
Question: Some docs I got from Check Point show a sample Edge rule of
Source: Dynamic Object InternalNet, Dynamic Object DMZ Net, and whaetever
that third default dynamic object is.
Destination: Any
Accept
Install on EdgeProfile
Since I am using different internal IP ranges for each Edge box, why would I
need these? I have to confess that the only dynamic object I really
understand is using a DHCP external interface.
We're trying to replace frame connections with Edge boxes and not re-IP
anything.
Thanks for any help and guidance you can lend,
Ray
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[FW-1] Office Mode from inside anti-spoofing - is there a cure?

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
We need to be able to initiate a SecureClient Office Mode connection from
within the VPN Domain for a couple of reasons. The first is initial setup of
a computer. A second is allowing access to the firewall from an unknown IP
address.
I have the ipassignment.conf file in R55 HFA06 set up to always assign the
firewall administrators a particular Office Mode address and these addresses
are allowed access to the firewall and management server. When I'm
travelling at a remote company location, I can fire up SecureClient from
within the VPN Domain and gain access to the firewall and management
station. It works perfectly.
Almost.
When the topology of the internal interface is set and anti-spoofing is
checked, Office Mode IPs originating from the VPN Domain get dropped as
message_info: Address spoofing. The tunnel test fails and the logon to the
policy server fails. Check Point's sk25656 article titled Office Mode
functionality when connecting from internal DMZ says the problem is that
the Policy Server only listens on external interfaces and that the
workaround is to redefine the DMZ interface as an external interface.
While this does work, turning off anti-spoofing on the DMZ interface also
works, apparently showing that the Policy Server does listen on other
interfaces.
Unfortunately, redefining the primary internal interface as an external
interface probably isn't a real good idea.  :-)
Even more unfortunately, I can't push a policy to an Edge box if
anti-spoofing is turned off on any interface, because the policy push whines
about it and fails.
So, I'm now having to quickly enable anti-spoofing on the internal
interface, push the policy to the Edge box and main gateway, turn off
anti-spoofing on the internal interface ad re-push the policy to just the
main gateway again. And I can't do this from a remote company location
because enabling anti-spoofing on the internal interface drops me as a
spoof.
If anybody knows how to make R55 not drop Office Mode IP addresses from
other than external interfaces, it would be greatly appreciated if you could
let me in on the secret.
Thanks,
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-23 Thread Ray
Turns out it is, although not as fast as I thought it would. It's not
logging traffic coming in via the VPN, just stuff trying to go to targets
outside of the primary gateway VPN Dmain, which it is showing as accept
and not encrypt.
So I'm back to my original quandry of how to make it route eveything down
the VPN. Is this just not possible in a mesh VPN or could it be done with a
static route somehow?
I dunno...
Ray
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Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
SmartCenter server? I can't see that it's doing that.
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Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-24 Thread Ray
Nothing personal, Chris, but I hope that's wrong...  :-)
Although I was leaning as to that being the answer. sigh
Ray

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In order to route all traffic through the vpn, you have to be using a
star community and check the radio button to route all traffic through
the hub.
Regards,
Chris
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Turns out it is, although not as fast as I thought it would. It's not
logging traffic coming in via the VPN, just stuff trying to go to
targets outside of the primary gateway VPN Dmain, which it is showing as
accept
and not encrypt.
So I'm back to my original quandry of how to make it route eveything
down the VPN. Is this just not possible in a mesh VPN or could it be
done with a static route somehow?
I dunno...
Ray
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Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
SmartCenter server? I can't see that it's doing that.
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Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-24 Thread Ray
Yeah, I saw some of that  also until I got it managed by the SmartCenter
server. I'm going to add its encryption domain to our network monitoring
system and ping it every minute to get a better feel for what's going on.
I was seeing continuous traffic flow from the Edge encryption domain but the
reverse was what was intermittent. Oddly, one of my internal subnets could
ping it all the time but a couple others couldn't do it and I was seeing a
no valid SA message in the log from those subnets.
In other words, some subnets were two-way and others were one-way,, from the
Edge to them but not back.
What firmware version are you on?
Ray
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I keep getting a problem with the encryption domain going away, the tunnel
is still up but no traffic will flow and then for no reason at all the
traffic starts flowing again, Lots more testing will need to be done
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Nothing personal, Chris, but I hope that's wrong...  :-)
Although I was leaning as to that being the answer. sigh
Ray
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:51:59 -0500

In order to route all traffic through the vpn, you have to be using a
star community and check the radio button to route all traffic through
the hub.

Regards,

Chris

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Turns out it is, although not as fast as I thought it would. It's not
logging traffic coming in via the VPN, just stuff trying to go to
targets outside of the primary gateway VPN Dmain, which it is showing as
accept
and not encrypt.

So I'm back to my original quandry of how to make it route eveything
down the VPN. Is this just not possible in a mesh VPN or could it be
done with a static route somehow?

I dunno...

Ray

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 Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
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Re: [FW-1] VPN/SecureRemote problem during key exchange

2004-06-24 Thread Ray
Check out sk23166. It says the VPN certificate on the firewall object is
corrupt. Is this affecting just one client or all of them? If all of them,
this might be the answer.
Ray
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I'm getting an odd error message during IKE key exchange when trying to
do a client-site VPN.
The error I'm getting is :
Negotiation with gateway IP at site IP hast failed.
Received notification: invalid cookie.
I'm not finding information about this on cp's site or in any of the
various manuals I have access to.
Has anybody run into this before?
On the client end I'm running SecuRemote R55
On the server, R55 NG with AI
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Re: [FW-1] Problems with SecureClient and Internet Explorer?

2004-06-25 Thread Ray
No. What kind of problems?
Ray

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Hi,
Did anyone experience problems with the Internet Explorer after
installation
of the SecureClient? Are there any documentation about problems in the
internet? Thanks for feedback.
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Re: [FW-1] Problems with SecureClient and Internet Explorer?

2004-06-25 Thread Ray
No, but we run all IE usage through a proxy. We occasionally see this in IE
when you try to go to an invalid URL and the proxy keeps trying. This causes
IE to appear to freeze while the proxy is doing its thing. This is with or
without SecureClient, though.
We never see it on intranet sites that bypass the proxy, whether using
SecureClient or not.
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] Monitoring Throughput (Kbps of an interface)

2004-06-29 Thread Ray
In SmartviewMonitor, look near the upper right corner of the display.
There's a little numeric dsplay that gives you the total.
Ray
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I've been wondering two questions relating to throughput
-How much traffic (in Kbps) is my firewall processing
-How much traffic (in Kbps) is going to/from the Internet
I am running NG AI R55 on Solaris 8.  I have SmartView Monitor.  Can I
get this data from any CheckPoint tools or do I have to use something
OS Specific, like MRTG?
SmartView Monitor seems to get close, but it wants to break it down by
service or host, I just want an overall number.
TIA,
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Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-29 Thread Ray
Thanks for the update, Chris. We currently have a kind of modified Star for
our WAN and we want to build redundancy in so if the corporate office goes
down, at least the rest of the company can stay up (think Aug. 14 blackout).
In a Star topology, if the central gateway goes nova, the rest of the
planets go cold. We currently have everyone behind Hide NAT.
Ray
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I just got off the phone with Check Point for the same problem (except
we are using IP40s). This is a known issue with all the sofaboxes, and
there is supposed to be a new version of the firmware coming out on
Monday to address it. The issue I am going to have is the firmware will
have to go through Nokia's QA before being released, so I will not be
able to apply it until who knows when.
Ray - is there a reason that the Star community presents a problem for
you? I do know for a fact that is the answer if you are wanting to route
all internet traffic through the Corporate Office (CO). The one thing
you are going to have to make sure you address is routing issues once
the packet leaves the CO headed to the internet (probably have to NAT
outgoing connections from the remote offices).
Chris
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Yeah, I saw some of that  also until I got it managed by the SmartCenter
server. I'm going to add its encryption domain to our network monitoring
system and ping it every minute to get a better feel for what's going
on.
I was seeing continuous traffic flow from the Edge encryption domain but
the reverse was what was intermittent. Oddly, one of my internal subnets
could ping it all the time but a couple others couldn't do it and I was
seeing a no valid SA message in the log from those subnets.
In other words, some subnets were two-way and others were one-way,, from
the Edge to them but not back.
What firmware version are you on?
Ray
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:57:44 -0400

I keep getting a problem with the encryption domain going away, the
tunnel is still up but no traffic will flow and then for no reason at
all the traffic starts flowing again, Lots more testing will need to be
done
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Nothing personal, Chris, but I hope that's wrong...  :-)

Although I was leaning as to that being the answer. sigh

Ray


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 In order to route all traffic through the vpn, you have to be using a
 star community and check the radio button to route all traffic
 through the hub.
 
 Regards,
 
 Chris
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:05 PM
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 Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
 
 Turns out it is, although not as fast as I thought it would. It's not
 logging traffic coming in via the VPN, just stuff trying to go to
 targets outside of the primary gateway VPN Dmain, which it is showing
 as accept
 and not encrypt.
 
 So I'm back to my original quandry of how to make it route eveything
 down the VPN. Is this just not possible in a mesh VPN or could it be
 done with a static route somehow?
 
 I dunno...
 
 Ray
 
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  Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
  SmartCenter server? I can't see that it's doing that.
 
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[FW-1] SofaWare SMS process exits when logging off SmartCenter

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
In order to manage an Edge box from an R55 SmartCenter Server, you have to
manually execute a batch file named smsstart.bat nominally found in
C:\WINNT\FW1\R55\bin. Once this is done, the Edge X box can connect to the
SmartCenter server and be managed by it.
Unfortunately, as soon as you logoff the SmartCenter server, an event is
generated that the SMS process has exited normally. And the Edge box can no
longer talk to the SmartCenter server.
This same issue was posted over on the Sofaware discussion forum back in
April and I'm kind of surporised it's still there in R55 HFA06. Does anyone
know of a fix? Outside of putting it in the registry manually, of course.
:-)
Thanks,
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Re: [FW-1] User database installation on remote modules

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
sk18666 has a change you may need to make. I'm reluctant to post its details
because it's not in the public SecureKnowledge database. The article
references FP3. We upgraded from FP3 directly to R55 and still had to make
this change. After making it, it works as advertised.
Ray

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Subject: [FW-1] User database installation on remote modules
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:56:38 +0200
In the NG AI R55 we have an issue with installing user database on remote
modules. In the SmartDashboard we go under policy- install database, we
only see the smart center as possibility. We do not see our remote modules,
although we can load complete policies on the remote systems.
The Checkpoint documentation states that this should be possible, so what
is
the solution.
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Re: [FW-1] User database installation on remote modules

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
Gees, that's an article with pretty ugly ramifications! severe problems
and unable to load rulebase??
Thanks for pointing it out, Chris. Hopefully Check Point will yank one or
the other article. I guess I better go undo that previous article.
Ray

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:09:49 -0500
According to Knowledgebase article sk15270, this functionality was taken
out of FP3 and above because of security considerations. Like Ray, I am
reluctant to put the details in due to it not being in the public
Knowledgebase. I would suggest contacting your Support Vendor in order
to get this Knowledgebase article.
Chris
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We are having the same issue.  Checkpoint support was unable to answer
my question.  My mgmt station is NG AI R55 and my remote modules are
still NG FP2.  CP support said that is the reason.  Not sure if I
believe that or not.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/30/2004 10:56:38 AM 
In the NG AI R55 we have an issue with installing user database on
remote modules. In the SmartDashboard we go under policy- install
database, we only see the smart center as possibility. We do not see our
remote modules, although we can load complete policies on the remote
systems.
The Checkpoint documentation states that this should be possible, so
what is the solution.
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Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
Are these in production yet? If not, ask your Check Point SE to see if they
can get you a copy of the latest beta firmware. Another resource is the
discussion forums at www.sofaware.com
Ray
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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:06:05 -0400
I am running version 4.0.85x
hardware version is 1.0
I am getting a 1 way encryption domain, I have the encryption domain set to
a network object in the firewall, In the LSM I have the vpnedge object with
an encryption range set in it.
I can get traffic to encrypt from the edge box to the Nokia but not back to
the edge box, I get an error that there is a translation error. and it is
dropping it.
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
Yeah, I saw some of that  also until I got it managed by the SmartCenter
server. I'm going to add its encryption domain to our network monitoring
system and ping it every minute to get a better feel for what's going on.
I was seeing continuous traffic flow from the Edge encryption domain but
the
reverse was what was intermittent. Oddly, one of my internal subnets could
ping it all the time but a couple others couldn't do it and I was seeing a
no valid SA message in the log from those subnets.
In other words, some subnets were two-way and others were one-way,, from
the
Edge to them but not back.
What firmware version are you on?
Ray
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:57:44 -0400

I keep getting a problem with the encryption domain going away, the
tunnel
is still up but no traffic will flow and then for no reason at all the
traffic starts flowing again, Lots more testing will need to be done
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!


Nothing personal, Chris, but I hope that's wrong...  :-)

Although I was leaning as to that being the answer. sigh

Ray


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 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:51:59 -0500
 
 In order to route all traffic through the vpn, you have to be using a
 star community and check the radio button to route all traffic through
 the hub.
 
 Regards,
 
 Chris
 
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 Turns out it is, although not as fast as I thought it would. It's not
 logging traffic coming in via the VPN, just stuff trying to go to
 targets outside of the primary gateway VPN Dmain, which it is showing
as
 accept
 and not encrypt.
 
 So I'm back to my original quandry of how to make it route eveything
 down the VPN. Is this just not possible in a mesh VPN or could it be
 done with a static route somehow?
 
 I dunno...
 
 Ray
 
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  Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
  SmartCenter server? I can't see that it's doing that.
 
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Re: [FW-1] Problem in Hide Nating

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
Do you have a static route in the firewall that says to send packets bound
for the internal network to the next hop inbound router?
Ray
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:06:52 +0500
Hello Lists,
I stuck once again in Firewall configuration; I am able to connect GUI to
Firewall Box. Now I want create hide NAT for my internal clients to access
internet. I am able to browser internet from firewall BOX. I install
checkpoint on win2k BOX.
But in Checkpoint Smart Tracker, I can see the accept Packet.
Number: 11
Date:   30 JUN 2004
Time:   15:18:49
Product:VPN-1  FireWall-1
Interface:  eth1
Origin: Local_Firewall
Type:   Log
Action: Accept
Protocol:   tcp
Service:http (80)
Source: TEST (10.0.0.35)
Destination:218.232.109.212
Rule:   4
NAT rule number:2
NAT additional rule number: 0
Source Port:4193
XlateSrc:   Local_Firewall
XlateSPort: 17172
But I am unable to reach internet from Clients machine. Pls help me out to
find the solutions.
I am waiting for your valuable reply.
Thanks
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Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
I'm not using LSM but rather a community. I disabled NAT in the community
and on the Edge box. I also set up the Edge box so its Service Center is
my SmartCenter server. Once I pushed the policy to the main gateway and the
Edge box, a policy which did not have any Edge-specific rules, it went
two-way. I've got the beta 4.5 software running on it.
Ray
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:03:01 -0400
naw not even close to production yet.
I am still having the issue with the one way traffic, I don't remember any
translation rules that are affecting it but I will check tomorrow.
Thanks for the info...
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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
Are these in production yet? If not, ask your Check Point SE to see if they
can get you a copy of the latest beta firmware. Another resource is the
discussion forums at www.sofaware.com
Ray
From: Stala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:06:05 -0400

I am running version 4.0.85x

hardware version is 1.0

I am getting a 1 way encryption domain, I have the encryption domain set
to
a network object in the firewall, In the LSM I have the vpnedge object
with
an encryption range set in it.

I can get traffic to encrypt from the edge box to the Nokia but not back
to
the edge box, I get an error that there is a translation error. and it is
dropping it.

- Original Message -
From: Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!


Yeah, I saw some of that  also until I got it managed by the SmartCenter
server. I'm going to add its encryption domain to our network monitoring
system and ping it every minute to get a better feel for what's going on.

I was seeing continuous traffic flow from the Edge encryption domain but
the
reverse was what was intermittent. Oddly, one of my internal subnets
could
ping it all the time but a couple others couldn't do it and I was seeing
a
no valid SA message in the log from those subnets.

In other words, some subnets were two-way and others were one-way,, from
the
Edge to them but not back.

What firmware version are you on?

Ray

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 Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:57:44 -0400
 
 I keep getting a problem with the encryption domain going away, the
tunnel
 is still up but no traffic will flow and then for no reason at all the
 traffic starts flowing again, Lots more testing will need to be
done
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 From: Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
 
 
 Nothing personal, Chris, but I hope that's wrong...  :-)
 
 Although I was leaning as to that being the answer. sigh
 
 Ray
 
 
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  Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
  Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:51:59 -0500
  
  In order to route all traffic through the vpn, you have to be using a
  star community and check the radio button to route all traffic
through
  the hub.
  
  Regards,
  
  Chris
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray
  Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [FW-1] Edge setup - getting close!
  
  Turns out it is, although not as fast as I thought it would. It's not
  logging traffic coming in via the VPN, just stuff trying to go to
  targets outside of the primary gateway VPN Dmain, which it is showing
as
  accept
  and not encrypt.
  
  So I'm back to my original quandry of how to make it route eveything
  down the VPN. Is this just not possible in a mesh VPN or could it be
  done with a static route somehow?
  
  I dunno...
  
  Ray
  
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   Second problem: How do I get the Edge box to send its logs to the
   SmartCenter server? I can't see that it's doing that.
  
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[FW-1] R55W SSL Network Extender released

2004-06-30 Thread Ray
Both are now available from the Check Point download site. From a
presentation I saw on the SSL Extender, it looks pretty nice and is supposed
to be priced the same as a SecureClient license although it seems to lack
the client-side firewall. Oddly, neither the license agreement nor the
release notes say how it's priced at all. Or at least not that I could find.
No mention of license keys or anything, just that you have to have a valid
license and are subject to a license audit.
Unfortunately, the user guide says the client must have administrator rights
to install, uninstall or upgrade the SSL Extender control. Even more
unfortunate, this release specifically requires R55 HFA04, which leaves
those of us on a later HFA due to Edge usage out of luck for now. No Nokia
packages yet either.
R55W's new web defense features do require a separate license, but all
existing SmartDefense features are supposed to still be available and have
been enhanced in various ways. In addition, peer-to-peer protection now
works regardless of the port the P2P application is trying to use.
Unfortunately, Floodgate is not supported in R55W, which probably means I
won't be able to use it. Neither is UserAuthority. No Nokia packages yet.
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] R55W SSL Network Extender released

2004-07-01 Thread Ray
I found an FAQ that says the SSL Extender will not work if you use SCV, and
we use it extensively. Maybe the next release of VPN-1 will allow more
granularity on whether SCV is enforced, such as allowing multiple remote
access communities and enforcing SCV by community instead of globally.
Ray

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:04:32 -0400
Both are now available from the Check Point download site. From a
presentation I saw on the SSL Extender, it looks pretty nice and is
supposed
to be priced the same as a SecureClient license although it seems to lack
the client-side firewall. Oddly, neither the license agreement nor the
release notes say how it's priced at all. Or at least not that I could
find.
No mention of license keys or anything, just that you have to have a valid
license and are subject to a license audit.
Unfortunately, the user guide says the client must have administrator
rights
to install, uninstall or upgrade the SSL Extender control. Even more
unfortunate, this release specifically requires R55 HFA04, which leaves
those of us on a later HFA due to Edge usage out of luck for now. No Nokia
packages yet either.
R55W's new web defense features do require a separate license, but all
existing SmartDefense features are supposed to still be available and have
been enhanced in various ways. In addition, peer-to-peer protection now
works regardless of the port the P2P application is trying to use.
Unfortunately, Floodgate is not supported in R55W, which probably means I
won't be able to use it. Neither is UserAuthority. No Nokia packages yet.
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] schedule powerdown of nokia firewall

2004-07-01 Thread Ray
I can't answer this question, but the last two times we had a power failure
and the IP530 went down hard, it didn't come back up. Seems to me we were on
IPSO v3.7 build 32 at the time.
When the power came on, it only partially came up. I had to connect a
console cable and a df showed just the boot partition, no other
partitions. I had to run
fsck
and answer Y to each question about fixing things (I didn't want to use fsck
-y because I wanted to see what was going on). After fsck finished and I
rebooted, it came up normally both times. This problem didn't happen when we
were on IPSO 3.6 build 7 and I haven't had a power failure since we went to
3.7.1
Ray
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:45:16 +
We have a power outage comming up and I don't want to be there.
Can I put an entry in the crontab of the nokia below?
00 23 3 *  * (fwstop;sleep 5; poweroff)
Alternatively, I could figure out the shutdown.tcl in voyager but
I am a little pressed for time.
thank
raymond
PS: when power comes back on will the firewall start backup automatically
or do I need some one there to flip the switch?
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[FW-1] Open ports on an Edge?

2004-07-01 Thread Ray
If someone has an Edge box set up, would you please check and see if ports
80  443 are open on the internal interface? We've got a demo unit running
the 4.5.29 beta firmware and have remote admin access allowed over the VPN.
I was quite surprised to see that going to it via http://internalIP brings
up the login interface replete with the firmware version and everything.
Going to https://internalIP brings up a generic login box without any of the
detail. The administrative inrerface is supposed to be (and is) on
http://internalIP:981.
I'm wondering why I'm seeing the administrative interface on 80  443 as
well, and why 80 has such a huge amount of detail available before a login
occurs.
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Re: [FW-1] NG FP2 --- NG AI_R55 HFA_02

2004-07-01 Thread Ray
For whatever it's worth, I went directly from FP3 to R55 and then applied
the hotfixes. The current hotfix for R55 is HFA06. I would say HFA04 is the
minimum HFA for R55 due to security fixes.
If you're on IPSO, you'll have to make sure you're on a 3.7 version of IPSO
before you can install R55. That will probably require an intermedate
install of FP3 since I think IPSO v3.7 requires FP3 HF2 as a minimum before
it can be installed.
Ray
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Hi,
Is it possible to jump directly to NG AI_R55 HFA_02 from FP2 ?
And what should I keep in mind when doing this?
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[FW-1] Open ports on an Edge?

2004-07-01 Thread Ray
If someone has an Edge box set up, would you please check and see if ports
80  443 are open on the internal interface? We've got a demo unit running
the 4.5.29 beta firmware and have remote admin access allowed over the VPN.
I was quite surprised to see that going to it via http://internalIP brings
up the login interface replete with the firmware version and everything.
Going to https://internalIP brings up a generic login box without any of the
detail. The administrative inrerface is supposed to be (and is) on
http://internalIP:981.
I'm wondering why I'm seeing the administrative interface on 80  443 as
well, and why 80 has such a huge amount of detail available before a login
occurs.
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Re: [FW-1] Blocking of port 264 and 18264 on Checkpoint

2004-07-01 Thread Ray
Yes, we set everyone to UDP encapsulation and IKE over TCP and have no NAT
issues.
Ray

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Can the Secure Remote/Client VPN clients be Nat'ed behind a firewall?
I know NAT-T(udp encapsulation) will work but I was not sure
if ports 264 and 18264 would work if the source ip address of the
client was nat'd?
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Re: [FW-1] Help, SecureClient SCV configuration

2004-07-02 Thread Ray
You can use the SecureClient Packaging Tool to customize your installation
executable. One of the customizations is to disable the end user's ability
to disable the policy.
Ray

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Hi, all,
i met some problem when implement SecureClient. Here's the Env:
Management Server: NG AI R54
Desktop: windows 98, windows 2000
SecureClient: R54, R55 for windows 98
R54, R56 for windows 2000
in SecureClient, there a menu item named disable policy, when a desktop
connect to the enterprise LAN, a policy is loaded at desktop, then he can
select the menu item to disable the policy, and VPN tunnel is still open. i
can edit Userc.C's manual_slan_control to make the menu item
unaccessable. but IT manager was afraid that some guys will edit the
Userc.c by themselves. I think SCV may do the check. Does anyone know which
Checkpoint buildin SCVcheck can be used to check whether SecureClient's
Policy is enforced? thanks !
another question, Checkpoint R55's Doc VPN1.pdf charpter 15 said
manual_slan_control is a Global property. but i can't find the related
item under SmartDashboard Global Properties. Does anyone know where is it?
thanks !
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[FW-1] The file fwnetcfg.dll on Check Point Firewall-1 Disk is needed.

2004-07-04 Thread Ray
For those of you experiencing this during a SecureClient installation, Check
Point has posted resolution sk24348.  It only happens if one of two
particular builds were previously installed.
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Re: [FW-1] SPLATvs Nokia

2004-07-05 Thread Ray
Hi Utsav,
If you have access to the HFA07 release notes, do they say anything about
problems with User Monitor not syncing anymore or with VPN Error Code 03
on SecureClient usage? I've been having both of these issues since going to
HFA06, but can't say positively that that is what caused it.
Thanks,
Ray
Updates: Check Point releases updates for SPLAT quite frequently. My
gripes in this area are that they don't keep User Center up-to-date
(they're up to HFA 07 on NG AI R55 but still only show HFA 04 on User
Center; I go through my SE for all support issues). Their documentation
for non-major releases is awful, and I maintain a development lab to
test everything I'm considering for production-wide deployment because
as with any software vendor, a fix for one issue could introduce a host
of other problems.
Online support: for me, it's a mish mash of CP's knowledge base, Google
searches, newsgroups and online mailing lists. More often than not, this
gets me the answers I need.
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Re: [FW-1] management trhough VPN woes

2004-07-06 Thread Ray
Do you have it set to rematch connections after a policy install? I push
policy to R55 via SecureClient all the time and never get kicked off.
Ray

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Hi,
| Personally I would expect it to knock you off everytime due
| to the VPN being
| broken when a policy is installed.
that would not explain why I do NOT get kicked out on subsequent
installs
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Re: [FW-1] management trhough VPN woes

2004-07-06 Thread Ray
Don't sell your knowledge short, Neil. This may be a red herring.
Gateway Properties
Advanced
Connection Persistence
I don't know if it works with remote access connections as well, I just know
I have rematch selected and I never get booted out.
Ray
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Shows how much I know !!
This should work with standard SecuRemote connections also ? I always
thought the VPN's were re keyed at that point when a policy is pushed.
Where is the setting to set it to rematch connections ?
Thanks.
Ray wrote:
Do you have it set to rematch connections after a policy install? I push
policy to R55 via SecureClient all the time and never get kicked off.
Ray

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| Personally I would expect it to knock you off everytime due
| to the VPN being
| broken when a policy is installed.
that would not explain why I do NOT get kicked out on subsequent
installs
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Re: [FW-1] Backing Up FW-1 Management on w2k

2004-07-07 Thread Ray
I create an image of it using DriveImage Pro every couple of weeks or so for
disaster recovery.
Ray

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Hello list!
Any ideas/procedures in backing up a Management Module on a W2k server?
Which is the best approach?
Thank you.
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Re: [FW-1] Debug options for sms edge (Intern)

2004-07-07 Thread Ray
The SMS process allows the Edge box to talk to the SmartCenter server.
There's a known bug where logging OFF of the Windows 2000 SmartCenter server
will kill the SMS process. If you lock the server instead of logging off,
the SMS process keeps running. If you need to restart it, you can execute
smsstart.bat from a command prompt.
I've got a case open on this with Nokia now but the ball is now in Check
Point's lap. I've not seen cpstart kill it, though, but I'm on HFA06, which
has some Edge fixes built in.
Ray

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Hi,
After applying the HFA04 patch the SMS process dies upon cpstart. Where can
I find log/debug information about why this happened?
Which binary is the smsprocess anyway?
anyone?
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Re: [FW-1] User Database Management

2004-07-08 Thread Ray
Hi Alan,
There was just a discussion on this a few days ago. It seems that starting
with FP3, Check Point removed that option by default, no longer listing the
gateways. They have a KB article that gives a dbedit change you can make to
restore this functionaility.
However there seems to be a catch: Due to some security enhancements in FP3
and later, it's apparently possible to get a mismatch between the rulebase
and the user database if you use install database. If you have a user
listed in a rule and install the database only after having deleted that
user for whatever reason, it's apparently possible that the the firewall
won't start.
Ray
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We've just upgraded from 4.1 to NG AI (R55) HFA_04. Management and
Firewall are on separate Solaris boxes.
Previously I'm fairly certain we were able to modify User Accounts (for
VPN) and just (re-)install the user database.  Now it seems like we have
to (re-)install/push the policy as well.
Has there been a change here somewhere?
I ask, because the User Admin is normally done by another administrator
who doesn't normally need full write access to the rule base etc.  So I
give him a customised permissions profile that only allow access to the
User database.
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Re: [FW-1] Nokia log error. : FW-1: fwconn_chain_get_something: fwconn_chain_lookup failed (5)

2004-07-08 Thread Ray
Yeah, there's a Nokia KB article on it that says it's benign and ignore it.
It was supposed to be fixed in a later version of IPSO. I don't see it any
more on 3.7.1 build 10.
Ray

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:33:21 -0400
[LOG_CRIT] kernel: FW-1: fwconn_chain_get_something: fwconn_chain_lookup
failed (5)
Any one ever see this?
I was just browsing around the logs on the Nokia and I see this pop up
every
now and then in the logs. well it is only every three days so not too
important just curious as to what it is.
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Re: [FW-1] Tunnel Test Fails for VPN-1 Edge

2004-07-09 Thread Ray
You need to go talk to them again. I got the 4.5.29 firmware beta and the
www.sofaware.com site had a note a few days ago that an even newer beta
version is available. They also have this message in their discussion
forums:
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We are happy to announce that SmartCenter R55 HFA7 (Hot Fix Accumulator
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This release includes significant enhancements for managing VPN-1 Edge and
Nokia IP40 devices.
The new release is available from the Check Point download center
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:53:05 -0400
I called checkpoint, and they said that the firmware they gave me a
couple of months ago is newer than the one released. I guess I got this
one ahead of schedule. He said it takes a while for the releases to come
down from Israel. I am also having a problem with the certs disappearing
every so often. There is no rhyme or reason to it. I'm forced to
re-upload the cert to get the vpn back up. Strange and frustrating.
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Huh, OK I see it on the site, the problem is I am using a firmware that
CheckPoint sent to me a couple of months ago to fix a problem, the
firmware release number for the one they sent me was 4.5.21. Did anyone
else get the 4.5.21 release? It added different icons and network views,
as well as dial-up options and traffic shaper?
stew
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I was speaking to a SE from Check Point last night. He did mention that
there is a new version of VPN-1 Edge X OS that fixes VPN issues between
an
Edge device and a VPN-1 firewall module. It is available for download
from
the Check Point site, a valid software subscription is required to get
the
download.  Version 4.0.93
HTH
Mike
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Yeah, I thought that might be an issue, but the time matches up with the
rest of the devices. Just doesn't make sense.
Thanks for responding!
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Check to make sure that the time on the Edge box matches up with the
time on the other server. If it's out by too much, it will have problems
with the tunnel as well. I ran into this issue myself.
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Subject: [FW-1] Tunnel Test Fails for VPN-1 Edge
I have a setup that has several VPN-1 Edges at remote offices. For
whatever reason the tunnel tests from one of these devices is being
dropped by the firewall cluster (R55) cleanup rule. The others are
working fine they are being decrypted by rule 0. There are also problems
with the vpn with this device, perhaps caused by the tunnel test
failures? I periodically have to disable and re-enable the site to get
traffic to flow. Has anyone heard of this?
Stew
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Re: [FW-1] Outlook Web Access

2004-07-10 Thread Ray
Does a simplw telnet owaserver 80 and telnet owaserver 443 produce a
connection?
Ray
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Hi everyone,
anyone experiencing problem with accessing OWA (Exchange 2003) over the
internet?
What ports need to be opened on firewall except HTTP and HTTPS?
from inside the network, OWA works fine, but from outside, THIS PAGE CAN
NOT BE DISPLAYED would come on
our environment is a distributed env, and I should add, we have smart
defense enabled too.
Please help
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[FW-1] Have any of you pioneers tried R55 HFA07 yet?

2004-07-11 Thread Ray
If so, any difficulty reports would be appreciated, particularly on Windows
2000 managament stations and Nokia IPSO gateways.
Thanks,
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Re: [FW-1] Checkpoint Licensing

2004-07-12 Thread Ray
Don't forget to count outbound mail servers, anti-virus servers  clients
looking for updates, DNS servers, etc. as  IP addreses crossing the
firewall. We've also seen backup software and other products looking for
automatic updates going out quite a bit. You may have far more than the 100
you think you do. As I recall, at least when we licensed, 251 and above is
considered unlimited.
Ray

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Hi All !
We are currently having 59 locations, with each
location being on a LAN. All the locations are
connected in a WAN. Only 100 users across the WAN are
having access to internt Mails and Internet Browsing
access. The number of PCs in the WAN across 59
locations is 900.
However, all the locationa can access the Internet and
transact mails if we allow the same on the Firewall.
My question is,
1) Should I take Firewall Licenses only for 100 users
who can actually transact mails and browse the
internet?
2) Or should I take Firewall licenses for all the 903
users?
We have contacted two vendors. One of them is saying
that we need to take 100 licenses, while the other is
saying that we need to take 903 licenses.
Can someone please let me know which would be correct?
Also is there any document which gives a correct
licensing details of Checkpoint Fw-1 in clear layman's
terms,
(Of course, if I take 903 licenses, there would be no
violation, but if  only 100 are taken when I should
take 903, I would land in trouble).
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Re: [FW-1] Hangups with Sysprep using SecureClient

2004-07-12 Thread Ray
Hi David,
We handle this issue by keeping SecureClient in a folder on the hard drive
and not installing it until the image is restored. This keeps us from having
to recreate an image just because SecureClient changed. Since last June,
we've had the R54 client, the R55 client, the R56 client and now the R55
HFA02 client.
Also note that there is an issue with having SecureClient installed in the
image. The first time it is installed on a computer, it creates an
unchanging virtual MAC address in the registry. If you don't delete that
registry key before creating the image, you will have multiple computers
trying to get the same Office Mode IP address.
Ray
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All,
Has anyone else experienced a long pause (20 minutes or more) during pre-OS
utilities such as sysprep when the machine has been preloaded with
SecureClient?  Our desktop images have SecureClient installed but do not
have any policies installed or anything when sysprep is ran.
I've google'd for this problem and have found other people experiencing the
same problems but no one has responded with any insight.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Re: [FW-1] Double NATing, Securemote

2004-07-13 Thread Ray
I'll bet they fix this in the next release. SecuRemote used to work with
Office Mode and then that ability was taken away. Their KB articles say
SecureClient is required for Office Mode and that piece of software requires
a paid-for license.
Ray
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Use office mode. According to my Checkpoint rep, it is permissible to
install SecureClient to use office mode without having a SecureClient
license. You just don't get to have a policy server and push down rules.
This will solve the issue that you're facing.
T. Brian Granier
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All,
A (hopefully) simple question,
We have a number of internal networks all using 192.168.x.x I have a
number of securemote users who end up in hotels using wifi to access the
net, many of these hotels also use the 192.168.1.x range for wifi  then
NAT. I need to get connectivity back to our internal systems.
I'm struggling to see how we can do this with out re-numbering our
internal network such that there is no conflict with the Hotel wifi
networks, which I don't really want to do.
Can anyone suggest a simpler solution?
I guess I could multihome the machines which need to be accessable to
another subnet.
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Re: [FW-1] Double NATing, Securemote

2004-07-14 Thread Ray
I would think that IP NAT Pools would work as long as the default route on
all of your internal routers point back to the gateway. You could assign an
IP Pool of 192.168.204.0 and try it, as it's extremely unlikely someone will
be using that high a range in their home or hotel network. A simple tracert
192.168.204.1 from your various internal networks would tell you the
routing.
Office Mode creates a virtual NIC complete with its own virtual MAC
address. It's main advantage for us is that I can assign internal-only DNS
and WINS servers to remote clients. I use an IP Pool for Office Mode as
well.
Ray
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:45:45 +0100
Having spoken with my Checkpoint rep an additional licence is required
for SecureClient :-(
I have to admit to not quite understanding how office mode would work
anyway, we are already using an IP pool on the Checkpoint firewall which
works, as long as the nated cleint adress does not apear to be within
the Firewalls encryptin domain. - Hopefully my diagram below clarifiys
this..
Client ip address range x
|
 ---|---
|  NAT Device   |
 ---|---
|
 ---|---
|   internet|
 ---
|
 ---|---
| Firewall (NAT)|
 ---|---
|
Internal IP range y
As long as x is not a subset of y then everything works, as soon as x is
a subset of y then I think securemote assumes that it is inside the
encrypion domain  therefore doesn't atempt to connect to the firewall 
it all falls apart.
Does office mode fix this? when I tried the eval versions I don't
remember it doing so but I'm not certain that I tried with a duplicate
IP range..
Alaric
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 I'll bet they fix this in the next release. SecuRemote used
 to work with Office Mode and then that ability was taken
 away. Their KB articles say SecureClient is required for
 Office Mode and that piece of software requires a paid-for license.

 Ray

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 Use office mode. According to my Checkpoint rep, it is
 permissible to
 install SecureClient to use office mode without having a
 SecureClient
 license. You just don't get to have a policy server and push
 down rules.
 This will solve the issue that you're facing.
 
 T. Brian Granier
 GCIA, GCFW, GCIH, GCUX, CCSE, CHP, MCSE (NT4,W2kW2k3), et al.
 Information Security Architect
 Zebec Data Systems, Inc.
 
 
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 Subject: [FW-1] Double NATing, Securemote
 
 
 All,
 
 A (hopefully) simple question,
 We have a number of internal networks all using 192.168.x.x I have a
 number of securemote users who end up in hotels using wifi to access
 the net, many of these hotels also use the 192.168.1.x range
 for wifi 
 then NAT. I need to get connectivity back to our internal systems.
 
 I'm struggling to see how we can do this with out re-numbering our
 internal network such that there is no conflict with the Hotel wifi
 networks, which I don't really want to do.
 
 Can anyone suggest a simpler solution?
 
 I guess I could multihome the machines which need to be
 accessable to
 another subnet.
 
 Alaric Turner,
 Albourne Partners
 
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[FW-1] Am I the only one seeing VPN Error Code 03 tunnel test failures?

2004-07-14 Thread Ray
For about a month about ten percent of my R55 HFA07 SecureClient connections
have suddenly start getting dropped. They will see tunnel test failed and
unable to logon to the policy server. Looking at the logs shows this
error:
Information: message_info: Implied rule
encryption failure: decrypted methods didn't match rule (VPN Error code 03)
Looking at sequential log entries, I see that the VPN Peer Gateway as
recorded in the logs suddenly seems to be changing its IP address. The
initial login and key exchange is done under one IP and all of a sudden the
IP seems to change and that's when the drops occur. Yes, that fast. Once a
drop occurs, they're done. They have to wait a few hours before they can
call back in and get working again. A reboot of the laptop won't even clear
it. In one
case, the IP address was A and then switched to B after the key exchange
and then back to A again, all within a matter of a few seconds.
I opened a case with Check Point but they haven't been any help at all. I
can't even get a response as to what the error code means.
If anyone even has any wild guesses, I'd sure appreciate hearing them. It
happened to me and nothing I could do, including deleting and recreating the
site, would help. I've even seen it happen when connecting from within the
WAN to the gateway to perform an initial installation and site update on a
brand new SecureClient installation. One computer will work and another one
won't. All of a sudden the one that won't work starts working. This tells me
that it definitely is a Check Point problem.
Thanks,
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Re: [FW-1] SecureClient Licencing

2004-07-15 Thread Ray
As I recall, the number of people in the User Group that are authorized to
logon to the policy server is how it enforces the license count.
Ray
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Hi,
How das the secureclient licencing mechanism work?
Thx for infos
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[FW-1] SecureClient VPN Error Code 03 caused by R55 HFA05 and later

2004-07-15 Thread Ray
We have been having intermittent Help Desk calls from remote users
complaining about tunnel test failure messages when dialing in for the
last couple of weeks or so. It seemed to be affecting maybe 1 out of 20
users daily, and not every day, and would fix itself after a few hours
without us doing anything.
Since we didn't know if it was a firewall problem because it affected only a
few users and they were OK later in the day, but it had never happened
before, I opened a case with Check Point just in case. They had no record of
it from any other companies.
The logs showed it only affected people who either got timed out on their
dial-in connection or kicked off, and only occurred if they dialed right
back in. Sometimes it would clear itself if they dialed a different access
number.
Tonight Check Point was able to duplicate the problem by connecting into
their systems on their LAN and using a static IP. The tech changed his LAN
IP in the middle of the session, which always causes the connection to drop,
as it should. However, when he tried to connect back in with the new IP
address, he got a tunnel test failure. Since dial-in users always get a new
IP address, this was why it didn't affect broadband users.
He back-traced the problem to HotFix Accumulator 05 which has been out for a
few months. The problem carried over into HFA06 and HFA07. We had the 06 and
07 hotfixes installed as they contain enhancements for the Edge boxes we're
testing. We never were on HFA05.
Since we know know the problem is a firewall issue, Check Point recommended
we back the Nokia back to our previous HFA level and leave the management
station on HFA07.
If you filter on SmartView Tracker, VPN-1, Information, Contains decrypted
methods (without the double quotes), you'll see if you also have this
issue.
Thanks again to all of you who helped me wrestle with this problem,
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] vpn keepalive

2004-07-25 Thread Ray
What are you seeing this with, Chris? A later version of the Edge firmware
changes its keepalive from one minute to 15 seconds. I have VPNs up with
WatchGuard boxes and they just stay up. We do ping the endpoint every two
minutes with GFI's Network Server Monitor system just to get availability
reports. This product is a real value at $700 for unlimited servers.
Ray
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Hi all,
Does anyone know if there is a way to configure some sort of keepalive
for a site-to-site Ipsec VPN?  Some applications are sensitive to the
way that a tunnel takes a few seconds to rebuild if it hasn't been used
for awhile so they time out / disconnect.
Chris
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Re: [FW-1] VPN Secureremote routing problem

2004-07-26 Thread Ray
Are the operating systems all the same on each computer? Are you trying to
tracert by IP address or  DNS name? Which version of SecuRemote: the
original R55 release or the R55 HFA02 release? Does an nslookup on the
internal host return the correct IP address?
The reason I'm asking is that XP has this dumb feature where it caches
negative DNS responses for 15 minutes, whereas Windows 2000 and earlier did
not.  This was worked around in the R55 HFA02 release of
SecuRemote/SecureClient as long as certain userc.c changes were made.
Obviously if you are using tracert to an IP address, this is not the issue.
Is there any chance this user is behind a home router and the IP address
he/she receives from thier home router is on the same subnet as the internal
host? If so, you'll have to reconfigure thir home router to deliver an IP
address in a different subnet.
Ray
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** High Priority **
Hello,
We have got an interesting problem. We are using CP FW-1/VPN NG R55.
secureremote R55 is installed for VPN users. We have formed a group, which
is composed of 8 users and these users are connecting to the hosts that
exist in 3 different subnets, separately. One of these 8 users can connect
2 hosts but he/she cannot connect the other one. When running traceroute
command in the direction of this host, connection goes no further than ISP
router and destination net unreachable message returns. Connection from
another machine can be done with free of problems with the same user
account and same ISP. Is there anybody who has an opinion about this
matter?
Thanks
Sibel Merey
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Re: [FW-1] SCV questions

2004-07-27 Thread Ray
Hi Gary,
It is odd because you have :block_connections_on_unverified (false) which
should allow computers with failed SCVchecks to continue to connect. The
topology update issue is a valid one. I have mine set for an hour just so I
can make local.scv changes and have them propogated no more than an hour
later. Search your laptop for the local copy of local.scv and see if it
matches the one you put on the management station.
Here's an appropriately sanitized local.scv file. The checks are that the
Norton/Symantec rtvscan.exe anti-virus process is running (or that any
program named rtvscan.exe is running) and that the screen saver is set,
password-protected and not set longer than 15 minutes.
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] VPN Secureremote routing problem

2004-07-27 Thread Ray
Yes, NT does the same thing. If there is a NIC installed in the computer, it
holds the DHCP IP address somewhere in the registry through a reboot or
power cycle even if the NIC is now at home and no longer in the office. I
don't think it shows up in WNTIPCFG or ipconfig /all, though.
We worked around this by installing the AutoExNT service, which allows an
autoexec.bat type of operation. At bootup, we had the batch file run
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
all the time. If there was a DHCP server, it didn't hurt anything. If there
wasn't, it didn't generate any error messages. I don't remember how we
worked around it on Windows 98. I think it was a similar approach using a
command line option of winipcfg
If that thing has a built-in NIC or PC NIC, try removing or disabling it.
Ray
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:19:28 +0300
** High Priority **
Unfurnately thic pc has no IP address (standalone pc), i have looked at
ipconfig /all and with route print command. But there is no clue about
this problem.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27.07.2004 11:54:50 
I saw a similar case where the Win98 laptop formerly was in the same
subnet
with the desired target host. the Win98 box still had an IP (which it
has
got formerly via dhcp) on the nic, so it tried to route all pakets
unencryted to this host. Have a look at winipcfg on the appropriate
adapter
and if so a release should bring things back to work.
HTH
Steffen
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Re: [FW-1] VPN Secureremote routing problem

2004-07-28 Thread Ray
Glad you got it working!
Ray
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:00:04 +0300
** High Priority **
Ray, thank you very much, after your mail i unistalled tcp/ip protocol
and than reinstalled it. So now it works:)
Thanks again..
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28.07.2004 04:41:40 
Yes, NT does the same thing. If there is a NIC installed in the
computer, it
holds the DHCP IP address somewhere in the registry through a reboot
or
power cycle even if the NIC is now at home and no longer in the office.
I
don't think it shows up in WNTIPCFG or ipconfig /all, though.
We worked around this by installing the AutoExNT service, which allows
an
autoexec.bat type of operation. At bootup, we had the batch file run
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
all the time. If there was a DHCP server, it didn't hurt anything. If
there
wasn't, it didn't generate any error messages. I don't remember how we
worked around it on Windows 98. I think it was a similar approach using
a
command line option of winipcfg
If that thing has a built-in NIC or PC NIC, try removing or disabling
it.
Ray
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:19:28 +0300

** High Priority **

Unfurnately thic pc has no IP address (standalone pc), i have looked
at
ipconfig /all and with route print command. But there is no clue
about
this problem.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27.07.2004 11:54:50 
I saw a similar case where the Win98 laptop formerly was in the same
subnet
with the desired target host. the Win98 box still had an IP (which it
has
got formerly via dhcp) on the nic, so it tried to route all pakets
unencryted to this host. Have a look at winipcfg on the appropriate
adapter
and if so a release should bring things back to work.
HTH
Steffen

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[FW-1] New HFA's posted + a new ASN.1 Alert

2004-07-28 Thread Ray
http://www.checkpoint.com/techsupport/hfa.html
HFA08 for NG R55
HFA412 for NG R54
An ASN.1 hotfix for NG FP3
Here's the Alert for the ASN.1 patch that's applicable to all versions if
aggressive mode is implemented:
http://www.checkpoint.com/techsupport/alerts/asn1.html
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Re: [FW-1] New HFA's posted + a new ASN.1 Alert

2004-07-28 Thread Ray
In rereading it, it appears it may be applicable even if aggressive mode
isn't enabled.
Ray
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http://www.checkpoint.com/techsupport/hfa.html
HFA08 for NG R55
HFA412 for NG R54
An ASN.1 hotfix for NG FP3
Here's the Alert for the ASN.1 patch that's applicable to all versions if
aggressive mode is implemented:
http://www.checkpoint.com/techsupport/alerts/asn1.html
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Re: [FW-1] Encryption NOT Wanted

2004-07-29 Thread Ray
I'm confused. The purpose of a VPN is to encrypt things. If you don't want
the traffic encrypted, why use a VPN?
If there are specific services you don't want to pass through the VPN, add
them to Excluded Services.
Ray

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One of the side effects of Simplified VPN's are that it tried to encrypt
EVERYTHING between two firewalls in when the hosts are part of the
encryption domain.  Is there any way to change this undesired result?
Is there any way I can specify a rule that only allows unencrypted
items?  Is anyone else experiencing similar problems, and how are you
handling them?
Cheers,
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Re: [FW-1] Office mode

2004-08-02 Thread Ray
Office Mode IP Pools CANNOT be part of the subnet of your internal networks,
however with the later versions of AI, they can be part of the encryption
domain.
Your internal routers must know to send all Office Mode IPs tothe firewall.
Assume you have assigned 192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 to the Office Mode IP
Pool and this is outside of your internal subnet.
From your work computer, without using SecureClient, a
tracert 192.168.100.5
should end up back at the firewall internal interface. If not, you'll have
to adjust your internal routers appropriately. Note that Office Mode is a
SecureClient feature and does not work with SecuRemote.
If you change the Office Mode IP Pool range, I believe you have to reboot
thegateway as well.
Ray
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Goodevening,
I hope someone can clear a problem for me. We need to use office mode to
assign ip address to clients. Without office mode everything works fine, I
can get a connection with a secureremote client to our firewall and ping
any
address behind it and all trafic passes trough without problems. When I
enable office mode I get authorised by the firewall but afterwards there is
no traffic possible trough the tunnel.
When I setup office mode to use a ip pool outside the subnet of our
internal
side of the firewall the connection fails. In the log I only see that I am
authenticated successfull and I get a ip address assigned but then it ends.
When I setup office mode to use a ip pool inside the subnet of our internal
side of the firewall I get a connection but there is no traffic possible
trough that tunnel. I have a new network adapter with a ip address from the
pool but nothing happens. On the firewall I see no traffic but only
sometimes a broadcast from that client on the subnet. On the clients log
viewer I get the message: encryption fail reason::Packet if from physical
ip
address but office mode is active.
I have read the office mode documents on and on but cannot find why its not
working. Anyone with an idea is welcome, thanx in advance.
With kind regards,
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Re: [FW-1] Securemote/securclient virtual adapter problem

2004-08-03 Thread Ray
Are you talking about seeing it disabled in Device Manager? If so, I don't
know what's up with that because we see it all the time with the R55 version
of SecureClient but it never affects the operation of SecureClient. I don't
know if it's a false indication or what.
Ray
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All,
I have a number of roaming users using securemote to connect in to the
corporate LAN. Most of these work fine but I have a small number where
the Securemote virtual adapter is disabled  it isn't possible to
re-enable it. I've tried uninstalling  reinstalling, previous versions
(normally we use 56), I've seen the problem on both XP  win2k. Most
machines are ghosted  the others that have the same image normally work
fine. The only solution I've found is to re-install from absolute
scratch (OS etc etc) which is more than a little extreme.
Anyone got any sugestions?
Alaric Turner
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Re: [FW-1] Office mode

2004-08-03 Thread Ray
Hi Fabian,
The gateway will only see the Office Mode address and route it appropriately
if a user is connected and assigned that address. For example, I'm the only
user  connected by Office Mode and I am assigned an Office Mode address of
192.168.100.4. A traceroute from your internal network to my 192.168.100.4
address will succeed, but a traceroute to any other 192.168.100.xxx address
will go through the firewall to your ISP. That's just the way it works.
Are you trying the SecureClient connection from the internal network or the
Internet? If you're trying it from the internal network, the Office Mode IP
address will get dropped as a spoof. Check Point claims this is a feature
and not a bug.  :-)
Ray
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:46:07 +0200
First of all thanx for your answer. I still have a question remaining. The
internal subnet will forward its office mode ip address range to the
firewall but strange enough when I do a tracert the route goes trough our
internal router, to our firewall and then also to our internet router who
blocks the trafic. The firewall doesn't seem to pickup the trafic. Why
could
it be that the firewall doesn't seem to reconsize it as being its own
address space ?
On the client side when I connect using a secureclient I see the following
message:
Checking network connectivity...
Preparing connection...
Connecting to gateway...
User xx authenticated by FireWall-1 authentication
Gateway not responding
Connection failed
Once the authentication is established it cannot complete the tunnel setup
and in the logs I don't see anything anymore.
With kind regards,
  Fabian
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] Office mode
Office Mode IP Pools CANNOT be part of the subnet of your internal
networks,
however with the later versions of AI, they can be part of the encryption
domain.
Your internal routers must know to send all Office Mode IPs tothe firewall.
Assume you have assigned 192.168.100.0 255.255.255.0 to the Office Mode IP
Pool and this is outside of your internal subnet.
From your work computer, without using SecureClient, a
tracert 192.168.100.5
should end up back at the firewall internal interface. If not, you'll have
to adjust your internal routers appropriately. Note that Office Mode is a
SecureClient feature and does not work with SecuRemote.
If you change the Office Mode IP Pool range, I believe you have to reboot
thegateway as well.
Ray
From: Fabian Tuender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [FW-1] Office mode
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 19:34:51 +0200

Goodevening,

I hope someone can clear a problem for me. We need to use office mode
to assign ip address to clients. Without office mode everything works
fine, I can get a connection with a secureremote client to our firewall
and ping any address behind it and all trafic passes trough without
problems. When I enable office mode I get authorised by the firewall
but afterwards there is no traffic possible trough the tunnel.
When I setup office mode to use a ip pool outside the subnet of our
internal side of the firewall the connection fails. In the log I only
see that I am authenticated successfull and I get a ip address assigned
but then it ends.
When I setup office mode to use a ip pool inside the subnet of our
internal side of the firewall I get a connection but there is no
traffic possible trough that tunnel. I have a new network adapter with
a ip address from the pool but nothing happens. On the firewall I see
no traffic but only sometimes a broadcast from that client on the
subnet. On the clients log viewer I get the message: encryption fail
reason::Packet if from physical ip address but office mode is active.

I have read the office mode documents on and on but cannot find why its
not working. Anyone with an idea is welcome, thanx in advance.

With kind regards,
   Fabian

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Re: [FW-1] Edge 4.5 firmware released - v4.5.37

2004-08-04 Thread Ray
I didn't try the one from the CP site but I did try the one they released on
the Early Availability site two days ago (same version). I inadvertently
grabbed the s version instead of the x version/S200 version and got the
same error. Looks like all they have on the CP site is the x version.
When I tried it, I did it from the WAN side via the web GUI and it went fine
after I got the correct version.
You did extract it from the archive first, didn't you? Unlike CP hotfixes,
you have to extract these from the download package.
Ray
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Hi,
I have downloaded the latest firmware release for an Edge X, however when I
attempt to install it,
the download completes but I get a message to check the version is correct.
So I tried the previous
version and got the same error.
Do you have to log in via the private network in order to perform a
firmware upgrade?
Ray wrote:
http://www.sofaware.com/supportDownloads.aspx?boneId=266 for the new
features. Check Point has it in their software subscription downloads.
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Re: [FW-1] BSOD whilst installing Securemote R56 on Win2k

2004-08-04 Thread Ray
Which version of SR are you using? You should be using R55 HFA03 or R56
HFA01, not the FP3 version. They're backward compatible with the FP3
gateway.
Ray
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Hey people,
Upgrading our firewall to NG FP3 (no AI) from 4.1 SP6, and of course we
have to install new securemote clients as a result.
l installed in on one win2k PC with no problem, however 2 subsequent win2k
installs went ugly upon reboot after installing
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Re: [FW-1] Asn.1 vulnerabilty without aggresive mode

2004-08-04 Thread Ray
My reading says yes. Aggressive mode allows a single packet attack,
meaning a single packet with a spoofed source IP could be used to compromise
your gateway and you wouldn't have any way of tracking it to the source IP.
The attack if aggressive mode is disabled means the source IP could not be
spoofed, so you would still lose your job but you would know the source IP,
which probably is some consumer broadband connection infected by a bot or
from a non-friendly country.
Ray
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This is apparenty a subject for debate.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Jochen Vogel wrote:
 Hi,
 Is there any vulnerability if i doesn´t use aggresive mode?

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Re: [FW-1] HFA 412 and VPN...

2004-08-05 Thread Ray
Not yet. We have them to WatchGuard 7 Firebox IIIs and to a SofaWare box,
which I believe is based on the 4.1 architecture. Using R55, though.
Ray
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:22:18 +0300
We applied the patch (HFA 412) to our NG-R54 firewall and we lost our
DES vpns to FW-1 4.1 firewalls. Up to now we had no chance to bring
them up again...We had to switch the peer on our other VPN gateway
(which is a PIX firewall) in order to establish vpn to FW-1 4.1
firewalls on remote locations. Anybody had any problem after applying
this particular patch with existing VPNs...?
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Re: [FW-1] VPN Edge 1 Device no Site -2 Site VPN after Update to new Firmwar e... 4.5...

2004-08-05 Thread Ray
This issue was reported on the SofaWare discussion groups a long time ago:
http://sofaware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpcs=5006072361f=6406072361m=2521092001
They seem to be ignoring it although they did up the limit from 5 to 20 per
the messages there.
Ray
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Hello,
I just upgrade a edge x box from 4.0.87 to 4.5.37x and the vpn is no more..
We get the follwijng errors..
But the BOX said:
Error: Failed to parse VPN topology
Error: too many Gateway interfaces found in topology of gateway MAx allowed
= 20
We have 8 interfaces per FW Module in one HA environment..
Any help ??
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Re: [FW-1] BSOD whilst installing Securemote R56 on Win2k

2004-08-05 Thread Ray
In Windows 2000 just uninstall SR, reboot and then uninstall the TCP/IP
protocol and reinstall it after another reboot. XP doesn't let you uninstall
the TCP/IP protocol, hence the reset is needed.
Ray
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:45:09 -0500
Hey people,
We have just upgraded our firewall to NG FP3 (no AI) from 4.1 SP6, and are
in the process of installing the NG R56 securemote clients on our laptops
and home office PC's.
l installed the R56 secureremote in on one win2k PC with no problem,
however 2 subsequent win2k installs went ugly upon reboot after installing
VPN securemote, the dreaded Blue screen of death.
l have identified the cause of this issue. Both of the PC's that crashed
run Zone Alarm. People who un-install it before installing the VPN have
no issues.
Even after un installing Zone alarm, l get the BSOD when l install
securemote, as l think the TCP/IP protocol has been messed up. l have to go
into safe mode andf uninstall securemote to be able to boot.
l see that Ray Pesak mentioned running netsh int ip reset
c:\tcpipresetlog.txt on XP to reset it, however the rest parm is not
available in Win2k. What can l do to reset it?
Thanks in advance,
Alan.
PS Sorry, for my 1st email on this matter, somehow l sent it before l had
finished with it.

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Re: [FW-1] BSOD whilst installing Securemote R56 on Win2k

2004-08-06 Thread Ray
Great! Thanks for the feedback.
Ray
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Thanks Ray, it's all cool now.
As an FYI for those who may be interested, the VPN works fine, even when
installed on VMWare virtual machines.
Alan.
At 01:39 PM 8/5/2004, you wrote:
In Windows 2000 just uninstall SR, reboot and then uninstall the TCP/IP
protocol and reinstall it after another reboot. XP doesn't let you
uninstall
the TCP/IP protocol, hence the reset is needed.
Ray
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:45:09 -0500
Hey people,
We have just upgraded our firewall to NG FP3 (no AI) from 4.1 SP6, and
are
in the process of installing the NG R56 securemote clients on our laptops
and home office PC's.
l installed the R56 secureremote in on one win2k PC with no problem,
however 2 subsequent win2k installs went ugly upon reboot after
installing
VPN securemote, the dreaded Blue screen of death.
l have identified the cause of this issue. Both of the PC's that crashed
run Zone Alarm. People who un-install it before installing the VPN have
no issues.
Even after un installing Zone alarm, l get the BSOD when l install
securemote, as l think the TCP/IP protocol has been messed up. l have to
go
into safe mode andf uninstall securemote to be able to boot.
l see that Ray Pesak mentioned running netsh int ip reset
c:\tcpipresetlog.txt on XP to reset it, however the rest parm is not
available in Win2k. What can l do to reset it?
Thanks in advance,
Alan.
PS Sorry, for my 1st email on this matter, somehow l sent it before l had
finished with it.

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Re: [FW-1] RES: [FW-1] SYMANTEC VPN CLIENT

2004-08-06 Thread Ray
Ummm...
This isn't a Raptor limitation.
Solution:
If you're using Symantec Enterprise Firewall (aka Raptor) up to 7.0.4
you'll have to use the static NAT.
If you have Symantec Enterprise Firewall 8.0 you can use UDP
encapsulation and resolve this. I haven't tried this but I have
discussed this solution before with other people who have.
Sounds like  Raptor limitation to me!  :-)
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Re: [FW-1] Which one need to upgrade first?

2004-08-06 Thread Ray
The Management Server MUST always be upgraded first. The steps are
Management Server, push the policy, enforcement module, push the policy
again.
Ray
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Dear all,
When performing an upgrade on Check Point FW-1/VPN-1 Pro,
which part that I should or recommended to upgrade first, Management Server
or Enforcement Module/Server ?
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Re: [FW-1] Approach to hot fixes?

2004-08-10 Thread Ray
Precisely. That's why I skipped HFA05 and 06, because nothing applied to us.
HFA07 fixed a boatload of problems regarding Edge devices which we had just
begun testing, so I applied it. And I hit that VPN Error Code 03 tunnel
test failed SecureClient problem that actually was introduced in HFA05 and
carried over through 06, 07 and 08.
Fortunately I could roll the gateway back from HFA07 and make SecureClient
work reliably again.
Unfortunately I had to apply HFA08 because of the ASN.1 security problem and
I got my tunnel test failed problem back again.
Fortunately Check Point was responsive in getting me a fix I could apply on
top of HFA08. So now I'm all up to date and then some. :-)
HFA05, 06 and 07 weren't publicly released as HFA04 and 08 were. If you're
not using VPN at all, then you're probably safe at HFA04. But if an auditor
(or post-incident team) reads the release notes for HFA08 and sees the
recommendation about staying up to date, can you defend your decision
effectively and reasonably? You probably don't have any proof or inkling of
proof that applying the patch incurs more risk than staying unpatched. If
you do, great!
Kind of a pity we have to practice CYA so much.
Ray
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:15:07 -0400
Agreed, I tend to take the ain't broken, don't fix it approach to a
lot of things, but security patches aren't that simple.  And the
release notes often make general statements like improved stability.
 Well who doesn't want that?  :-)
Specifically HFA-06 talks a lot about ClusterXL stability/performance
improvements, and Solaris stability fixes.  I am running ClusterXL on
Solaris, with no specific problems at the moment, but those general
statements make me think I should apply the HF.
Thanks alll...
Shane
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:02:52 -0400, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is my approach as well but I don't let things get too far behind.
We
 all know how things get slipstreamed in without making it to the release
 notes.

 As fas as if it ain't broke, don't fix it, this is the reason I have
done
 assessments on companies where their routers are on the original IOS,
 workstations and servers are on Windows Service Pack nothing, SQL Server
 likewise, etc. The one admin said point blank that she never patches
 anything that's working.

 Kind of the reason why they got taken down by Slammer and why they had
to
 set up weekly reboots on all servers to keep them stable.

 Ray



 Well maybe it's just me, but I follow the if it ain't broke
 don't fix it approach.  But always watch the release notes
 on fixes in case something serious may come up that may effect
 your stability or security.
 
 just my $.02
 
 Hal
 
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   Just curious...
  
   Do you regularly keep your firewalls up to date with the Check Point
   hot fixes?  Or do you wait for the need?  For example I'm currently
on
   HFA-04, but HFA-08 is out.  I've read the release notes on HFA-08
and
   don't see anything that would immediately impact me, so I don't
think
   there's a pressing need to put HFA-08 on it.
  
   But is it a best practice to always apply the latest HFA?
  
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Re: [FW-1] Request for comments on appliance platform selection

2004-08-11 Thread Ray
The Safe@ and Edge boxes don't have a rackmount available yet, but they're
pretty small. We use a couple of Safe@ boxes in site-to-site VPNs with the
main firewall and they just stay up.
You can get mirrored drives in a Nokia IP530 or you could use SPLAT. I
personally wouldn't feel comfortable running my whole company on anything
less than a real firewall box.
We've got almost twenty times more local and remote users than you and we
just went to a pair of T-1's on an IP530. We did add a caching proxy server
a couple of years ago for web access (Microsoft ISA 2000) and that dropped
our Internet line usage from 90%+ to about 60%. The cost of the ISA hardware
and software paid for itself in less than a year because we didn't have to
add a second T-1.
Ray
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Greetings firewallers,
I have been running FW-1 on Solaris for years, but
recently have been having concerns about support from
the rest of the local IT team without experience in
Solaris.  I am thinking an appliance with VPN-1 would
be a more user friendly solution and easier for general
support in the group.  Checkpoint has a nice platform
selection guide which provides a good overview and good
product information, but I was interested in comments
from the group on satisfaction and good/bad experiences
with the various products.  If anyone can provide any links
to any recent comparitive product evaluation articles
that would be appreciated.  We have about 100 users locally
on a T-1 and may upgrade to dual T-1's eventually.  Have
only 5-10 remote VPN users, and about 50 remote users
accessing a secure intranet site, and maybe hosting our own
low use website later, so traffic is not high, but a DMZ
interface required. I am thinking one of the SafeOffice, Nokia,
or VPN Edge appliances would be most practical. I would
like something rackable so I am also interested in one of
the basic OS installs that I could put on a 1U rack server.
Any comments greatly appreciated.
thanks,
Hal
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Re: [FW-1] Rules for backup firewall

2004-08-11 Thread Ray
How would the second box be licensed? A better arrangement would be to split
the management part to its own server and then you could simply push it to
either gateway. Or set up the second gateway in a high-availability
fail-over configuration.
Ray
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We are running Windows 2003 server and FW1 R55 with HFA 04.  This is our
main
firewall.  If we setup another Windows 2003 server and put FW1 R55 with HFA
04 and keep it off line could we then export the rules from the running
firewall and import them into the backup firewall periodically.  The backup
would only be used if the main firewall went down.
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Re: [FW-1] Beware R55 HFA08!

2004-08-12 Thread Ray
Hi Joe,
The correct answer is for you to call Check Point and tell them you want
hotfix SHF_FW1_R55_0123 for your gateway platform and you want it TODAY. It
will install on top of HFA08. It does require a reboot of the gateway but it
fixes the problem.
Tell them you cannot believe they just told you to roll back to a version
and make yourself susceptible to the ASN.1 security problem.
If the end user's real IP changes over a short period of time, the problem
occurs, such as dialing in, disconnecting and then dialing back in.
Ray
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:47:30 -0400
Warning if use VPN with R55, especially SecuRemote/SecureClient!
After upgrading from HFA04 to HFA08 we started having decryption errors
(VPN
error code 03) with our SecureClient users. Somehow the logged IP address
of the VPN Peer Gateway is getting changed (by the firewall) and then
decryption fails.  It does not affect all SecureClient users at the same
time, and after
a few hours the problem goes away!  I checked my SecureClient while
monitoring my firewall logs, and my SecureClient IP address was not being
reported
in the firewall logs correctly.
I submitted a trouble ticket with Check Point and they know about this
problem, and they suggested I  roll back to HFA04.
They said HFA09 is suppose to fix this problem, but no word on when to
expect this fix.
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Re: [FW-1] Beware R55 HFA08!

2004-08-13 Thread Ray
When we hit this problem with HFA07 six weeks ago, I waited ten days for the
CP tech to do anything other than ask for a cpinfo. I then got an email from
the tech that he was going on vacation. Meanwhile the calls from employees
were piling up and we still weren't sure if it was a firewall problem or
not.
I called and talked to a supervisor who put someone good on the case. This
person took only a few hours to validate and duplicate what we were seeing
(as opposed to 10 days) and to figure out it was a problem from HFA05 and
later. We were advised the same day I talked to the supervisor to roll back
the gateway to the previous HFA, which was done. We had gone to HFA07 solely
because we were testing Edge boxes, so this wasn't a big deal.
Then the ASN.1 problem came out and this problem wasn't fixed yet. We were
forced to apply HFA08 and re-introduce the problem into our system. We
suffered with it for another ten days before the interim hotfix was
released. We never were told to rollback from HFA08.
It astounds me that Check Point doesn't think disrupting remote access is a
big concern and that customers should discover the problem on their own
after hours of trying to sort through logs after irate employees have been
calling the Help Desk.
How hard would it have been to put a link to this interim hotfix on the
ASN.1 Alert page, or just a note saying if yo have experienced this problem,
open a support case?
Ray
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 08:18:18 -0500
True, but the point of if it isn't broke don't fix it really shouldn't
apply to security.
Anything that could be a vulnerability, such as a legacy code on a
firewall, should be
assessed, audited, and acted on appropriately.
The thing that baffles me the most is that Check Point told one customer to
roll back to a previous version,
yet provided another customer with a fix above HFA08. The emails did
provide all  the information, such as the OS, but
I would think that with the architecture of FW-1 that it wouldn't matter.
This gives me worries about communication within CP support.
-Matt


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An interesting footnote to the 'approach to hotfixes'
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Hal
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 Subject: [FW-1] Beware R55 HFA08!


 Warning if use VPN with R55, especially SecuRemote/SecureClient!

 After upgrading from HFA04 to HFA08 we started having
 decryption errors (VPN
 error code 03) with our SecureClient users. Somehow the
 logged IP address
 of the VPN Peer Gateway is getting changed (by the firewall) and then
 decryption fails.  It does not affect all SecureClient users
 at the same
 time, and after
 a few hours the problem goes away!  I checked my SecureClient while
 monitoring my firewall logs, and my SecureClient IP address
 was not being
 reported
 in the firewall logs correctly.

 I submitted a trouble ticket with Check Point and they know about this
 problem, and they suggested I  roll back to HFA04.
 They said HFA09 is suppose to fix this problem, but no word on when to
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Re: [FW-1] Whitelisting URIs

2004-08-17 Thread Ray
We're not and you hit the reason on the head: Akamai. Our ISP has one of
their edge of the Internet caching boxes and although the URLthey're going
to is to the big site, FW-1 shows the IP they're actually going to is on our
ISPs network, the Akamai cache device.
We stuck in a Microsoft ISA2000 box behind FW-1 and are running it as a
caching proxy. It dropped our T-1 usage from 90%+ during the day to barely
60%. It's tied to our domain system and it eaither allows people out based
on their NT ID or it restricts them to a certain subset. All setup is done
with URLs so we don't have to worry about changing or distributed IPs.
The bandwidth reduction allowed us to defer a second T-1 for over two years,
so the whole deployment paid for itself inside of a year.
Ray
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We have been handed down a new policy that a certain set of computers
will only be allowed HTTP access to a specific set of blessed web sites.
We have been supplied with a set of URLs. I am trying to figure out the
best way to do this within FW-1. I have been looking through the HTTP
Security Server documentation and have done some playing with URI
resources, but it's not looking too good.
How have other people out there done something like this short of going
to a more full featured external HTTP proxy or third-party OPSEC tools?
Some of the websites listed are big Akamai'ed or otherwise distributed
where trying to list IPs will be an unmanageable pain. I've never had
much success with Domain Objects either. Anyone doing this completely
within FW-1?
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Re: [FW-1] NAT Traversal and IPSec Pass Through

2004-08-18 Thread Ray
Yes, Visitor Mode encapsulates all of the IPSec traffic in a TCP port 443
SSL connection to fake out firewalls that only allow 80  443. It doesn't
have anything to do with UDP encapsulation.
Your response sounds like Nortel does have UDP encapsulation, so all you
have to do is allow that UDP port outbound in FW-1. Is my understanding
correct?
Ray

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Hi All,
Nortel says one possible fix is to turn on NAT-Travesal for the IPSEC
group.  This uses a UDP port that you can set to allow VPN clients
behind a Checkpoint Firewall to work.  Is Visitor Mode a part of the VPN
from Checkpoint?
Thanks,
Rob
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Doesn't some version of Nortel have UDP encapsulation? With all of the
broadband access available from hotels and other facilities, you're
going to hit this problem a lot. We routinely have to use Visitor Mode
from major hotel chains because the only traffic they allow out is 80
and 443.
Ray
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It is not possible to turn on IPSec passthrough on Checkpoint firewalls
for hide NATs.  If they did, the passthrough would only work for the
first IP that used the passthrough (So CP tells me, anyway).

This is why Checkpoint suggests using UDP encapsulation, which other
posters have stated is not possible.  The other possibility is to set
up static NATs for users that require VPN access, but this can be an
administrative nightmare, depending on the number of users.


Mike F.

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Hi All,

Anyone working with a Nortel Contivity VPN and Checkpoint NG AI?  We
put an additional adapter in our Checkpoint and have terminated a small
wireless LAN into it.  It's been great, users jump on the wireless, get
assigned a DHCP IP from a DHCP appliance and then can surf the web.
Now the issue is when they try and launch our VPN client, they could
not logon.  We asked Nortel and they said - NAT Traversal (NAT-T) -
because the Checkpoint was NATting the IP address (WIFI LAN is
172.20.0.0) and the Interface facing the Contivity is 204.238.109.60 in
order for the VPN to work we have to enable NAT-T.

My question is - at my house, I use a NAT box (Linksys router) and I
don't require NAT-T but I think that's because my Linksys supports
IPSec Passthrough and what I am wondering is if I can enable IPSec
Passthrough on the Checkpoint and/or are there any negative
implications.

Thanks,

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Re: [FW-1] Remote extranet access over SecuRemote/SecureClient

2004-08-22 Thread Ray
Gees, did you ever have one of those days?  :-)
The only need we have for traditional policies is that we need multiple
remote access user groups, one that SCV applies to and one that SCV doesn't
apply to. If Check Point ever offers  multiple remote access communities and
the ability to select whether SCV applies to a particular community, the
traditional policies can go.
Ray
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Thanks Ray. It seems that vpn routing is only possible when using simplied
mode so that you can work with VPN communities. This is rather unfortunate
as our policies are currently in traditional mode :(  Will have to look at
re-writing the policies to make this work.
Appreciate the tips!
David


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Search the KB for vpn routing. I think it's available before AI and it
may
help you out. You also might want to download the Check Point documentation
for VPN-1 and search or print out the PDF. I've found this whole series of
documents from Check Point to be as good as any third-party book.
Ray
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I was a little confused by your question so didn't answer at first,
hoping someone else understood better.  Since no one did, here goes
my guess.  This is a routing issue handled by the firewall.  The
firewall knows about the routing requirements for your extranet
tunnel based on topology.  You connect to your gateway as defined
by your  SC client setup, then your gateway knows to route (and re-
encrypt packets) packets destined for your extranet based on topology.
So yes, it is possible, and pretty much default setup once you
have your topology defined.

Hal

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  From: David A Muscat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FW-1] Remote extranet access over SecuRemote/SecureClient
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I'm running a CheckPoint NG FP2 gateway with vpn on a solaris
  server. This
  firewall serves as the gateway for SecureClient users and
  it's also a VPN
  termination point for an extranet tunnel.
 
  There's a requirement to allow SecureClient users to access
  this tunnel.
  Ie, a SecureClient user sends packets to destinations which are at the
  remote extranet site. I've managed to configure the userc.C file to
  correctly encrypt the packets and send them to the gateway.
  The gateway
  then decrypts these packets but then I need them re-encrypted
  to send back
  out across the extranet tunnel to their final destination.
 
  Is this kind of setup/connectivity actually possible without having to
  route the packets anywhere else beyond the firewall? Any ideas or
  suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks!
 
  David A Muscat
 
  IBM Global Services
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Re: [FW-1] Syncronization problems

2004-08-22 Thread Ray
Does it mean you installed HFA08 for R55? If so, go download the latest
version of the release notes a I believe they address this.
Ray
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Does anyone what this error means?
joining multicasts failed (3) on ce1 - will use link layer broadcasts for
multicast
and ifconfig -a of ce1 shows:
ce1: flags=1001843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,MULTI_BCAST,IPv4 mtu
1500 in3
inet 172.27.51.6 netmask fff8 broadcast 172.27.51.7
What does the parameter MULTI_BCAST appear?
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Re: [FW-1] Upgrade from NG FP3 to NG with AI easy?

2004-08-22 Thread Ray
We took an FP3 HF2 gateway straight from IPSO 3.6 FCS 3 to IPSO 3.7.1 build
10 with absolutely no issues. The IPSO release notes say you have to be on
FP3 HF2 or later to use IPSO 3.7x.
It was an IP120, though, not an IP440, if that makes a difference.
Ray
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:35:12 -0400
The FW-1 documentation seems to indicate that you can do an in-place
upgrade of NG FP3 to R55. So I figured that I could do this on our
IP440's.
Not quite. R55 required a new version of IPSO, but FP3 won't run on it
(well, maybe it does, but I decided not to try it).
Here's the procedure that I followed -- which I made up as I went along.
YMMV, but it worked for me.
- Copy all binaries to IP440.
- Look at your environment variables and note the values for CPDIR,
FWDIR, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
- Upgrade IPSO. Reboot. This will *disable* NG FP3.
- In voyager, re-enable NG FP3. DO NOT REBOOT.
- At the IPSO command line, set CPDIR, FWDIR, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the
values you listed above.
- Upgrade to R55
On one of our four modules, this procedure did not work because we were
missing a symbolic link for /opt/CPShared. Recreating the symlink made
it work fine.
Watch the output of the upgrade scripts carefully, and take all warnings
seriously.
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 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FW-1] Upgrade from NG FP3 to NG with AI easy?


 We've upgraded one of our Nokia IP440's to NG FP3 from 4.1
 SP6, and all is
 well now after the usual post upgrade tweaking.

 Now it's time to ponder the upgrade of our backup IP440, and
 wonder if we
 can go to NG with AI.

 l'm wondering about 3 things:
 1)  Ease of upgrade
 2)  stability
 3)  performance hit

 Is it an easy upgrade from NG FP3? (l will have upgraded to
 NG FP3 before
 proceeding).

 Which is the most stable release to install? (l have heard of
 issues with
 certain releases and patches)

 Is there a big performance hit compared to NG FP3? Our ip440
 seems to run
 fine with NG FP3, but from what l understand AI can add a lot
 of overhead
 to a system. Can any of you comment on that?, especially any
 IP440 users.
 My client has many popular news web sites and get over 40 million page
 views a month, so performance degradation would be a big issue.

 Thanks in advance,

 Alan.


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Re: [FW-1] Secure remote 'pool' issue

2004-08-23 Thread Ray
I don't know if it's available in SecuRemote, but R55 has a feature named
ipassignment.conf which is a file where you can set a user ID and the IP
address they always will get. Kind of a DHCP reservation thing. I do know it
works in SecureClient and Office Mode.
Ray
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:49:22 +0100
Hi
We run R55 on Linux at 2 locations, one was an upgrade from FP3 and the
other is a clean install.
When we use secure remote we assign IP's from a pool specifically for
secure
remote users. I'm finding that the users are 'seen' to be coming from their
real nat'd IP on the fresh R55 installation when they hit our network
rather
than from the pool. On the upgraded R55 install they appear to be coming
from the correct IP pool. Has anyone experienced this or know of any
gotchas
on what i can check?
On another note i'd like our IP pool users to be able to administer the
firewall as GUI clients. So i can administer it from home etc over secure
remote. However even after specifiing the IP range of the pool in the GUI
clients list i can't connect. Does anyone know if a secure remote
connection
can be used to administer the firewall as a GUI client? I'm guessing that
the firewall is 'seeing' me as coming from my real IP (not nat'd) rather
than from the secure remote IP
thanks
Tom
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Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK

2004-08-27 Thread Ray
Unless you go to R55W or block all outbound ports except for specific
sources, you probably can't do it. Many of these IM clients negotiate random
high ports if the standard ones won't work, so unless you're very closely
controlling outbound traffic, they'll just slip on through. R55W works
regardless of what port is used, a major difference from R55.
Ray
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:20:23 -0300
NO...NO...NO...you don´t understand to me!!!
IN A R55 ENVIRONMENT:
I need to block FILE_TRANSFERs between two MSN clients client A and client
B
(with hotmail.com accounts) ok?
Both clients are located in differents locations...ok?
The client A are located behind a firewall.
In the Firewall i want to block the FILE_TRANSFER functionality for client
A.
I tried to configure a rule base that to permit HTTP, and
MSN_Services_group
except File_Transfer service.
Later, i to check the P2P--MSN option in the SmartDefense and check the
Perform strict protocol enforcement
BUT...BUT...the clients A and B does continue to transfer the files.
Resuming even if i remove the FILE_TRANSFER service from the rule base the
file transference does continue.
In the log i saw that all connections to use the MSNP service. And if
remove
MSNP service from the rule the client A can´t iniziate the session.
?¿?¿?¿?¿?
Remember in a R55 environment.
Saludos,
Mateo Cabrera - Soporte Técnico
Security Advisor
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-Mensaje original-
De: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Girard
Moussa
Enviado el: viernes, 27 de agosto de 2004 4:16
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK
Well,
To answer  your question,  if there are on the same LAN segment and do not
pass through a firewall as their gateway, then file transfer cannot be
blocked. Why would you want to block file transfer internally between
users?
They can easily share files over the network or via email.
Now as for being able to transfer files with outside users, well, the new
versions of MSN don't even need MSN transfer protocols or any proprietary
protocols. They now tunnel over http and even if you have a proxy in place,
MSN will pick up the settings from IE and tunnel over the proxy. The only
way to block MSN Messenger is at the proxy level if it is aware of MSN
Messenger or at the firewall level via Smartdefense. However, Smartdefense
will stop all MSN related traffic altogether and users would not be even
able to log on to MSN, let alone transfer files.
Girard Moussa

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Hello,
Now when I read your message I think that I remember something like the MSN
files transfer don't involve MSN servers, but only the two PC (sender and
destination); when they are in the same network it is obvious that this
doesn't pass through your FW.
Mihai
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK
ok, thanks to all.
But my question was because i did try to send a file from one MSN client to
other.
I did configure a rule permitting all services except MSN_File_Transfer and
the transferense did continue work fine.
The problem was that both MSN clients was in a same internal network, and
somebody told me that the communication between 2 MSN clients in a same LAN
is bypassed by the FW in a second instance. (I don´t know if it´s real)
Saludos,
Mateo Cabrera - Soporte Técnico
Security Advisor
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Asunto: Re: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK
Hi!
The NG-AI version of FW-1 knows well the different protocols of MSN, Yahoo
and ICQ (video, file transfer and chat) so you can allow only the protocol
that you want. I use myself this and is OK, I want to allow only chat but
anything else not (like file transfer or video); this stuff could be
dangerous (file transfer) or resources consuming (video) Mihai
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Cc:
Subject: [FW-1] MESSENGER FILE TRANSFER BLOCK

HEY GUYs!!!
Me and other companion on this forum (jon Allingham) we have a
problem to
block the IM File Transfer using SmartDefense.
Somebody know how to configure the FW-1 or SmartDefense to use the
MSN but
do not to block the File

[FW-1] New Edge 4.5.44 firmware posted

2004-08-27 Thread Ray
On the Check Point software subscription site. No release notes on the
changes that I could find.
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] CheckPoint Visitor Mode

2004-08-31 Thread Ray
We're not getting any complaints about Visitor Mode disconnects, but we
discourage it unless needed. The double encryption-decryption puts a
definite strain on lower end computers, like those below 1 GHz. On a 500 MHz
P-III, Visitor Mode has a response that's only slightly better that dial-up.
Yes, we are using compression, but straight IPSec doesn't have the issue.
Ray
From: Jeanne MAILLARD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CheckPoint Visitor Mode
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:27:45 +0200
Hello !
Maybe can you help me too...
It's about disconnections when using Visitor Mode. Have you heard about
this problem ?
Thanks for your help,
Jeanne
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Hello,
I try to contact you thanks to the fw-1 mailing list.
I've seen the message you've posted few months ago concerning Visitor Mode
(see the copy of the text at the end of the mail).
If you have a free moment, would you help me please ?
I installed a SecureClient which can connect my VPN gateway
(SecurePlateform) without any problem : everything goes well. I use Visitor
Mode.
As you have already noticed, there are frequent deconnections. I asked my
ISP whether there is a transparent proxy and the ISP answered yes.
Did you have time to think about the problem ?
Are the deconnections induced by the transparent proxy ? I can't find
informations on the knowledge base (SecureKnowledge)...
I hope you will have time to answer my question.
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Jeanne.

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Re: [FW-1] Office Mode (regular VPN) vs. Visitor Mode (TCP Tunneling)
 From: Markus Hofbauer
 Subject: Re: [FW-1] Office Mode (regular VPN) vs. Visitor Mode (TCP
 Tunneling)
 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:09:22 -0800
 I noticed that the client gets frequently disconnected when using Visitor
 Mode... never took the time to debug the reason. But I'm pretty sure it's
 not because of a bad ISP connectivity from the client.
 /Markus
 At 13:42 16.03.2004, you wrote:
 Is there any reason that I shouldn't make Visitor Mode my default for my
 SecurClient
 users?
 
 If visitor mode encapsulates everything through TCP 443, therefore
making
 it easier
 for my users to connect from various places, why wouldn't I just make it
 the
 'standard'?
 
 What's the downside?
 
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[FW-1] Here an Edge, there an Edge, E I E I O!

2004-08-31 Thread Ray
From the bottom left corner of the August 30th issue of Infoworld magazine:
The latest addition to Watchguard's Firebox series of security appliances
is the Firebox X Edge series, designed for remote branch offices of SMBs.
Hope somebody from Nokia or Check Point trademarked their use of the term.
Or maybe it's a Nokia under the covers?
Ray
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Re: [FW-1] SecureClient and Internal Network Access

2004-08-31 Thread Ray
Your NAT is probably OK. Do you have a static route on the gateway so it
knows how to route the 10.9.xxx.xxx traffic to the next hop internal router?
Do your internal routers know to send all 10.9.xxx.xxx traffic back to the
gateway?
Which version of SecureClient? Are you using SCV? What do your desktop
security rules look like?
Normally you cannot ping the gateway unless you add a rule to allow it. Is
this a simplified or traditional policy? Do you have a specific rule in the
rule base to allow the SecureClient traffic access into and out of the
internal network?
Ray
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:03:03 -0700
Hi All,
 We are using checkpoint NG FP2. We configured checkpoint gateway
so that the SecureClient can have remote access to the internal networks.
The servers in the internal networks can reach (pings work) the secure
clients but the secure clients cannot reach the internal network or any
servers (pings or http access to any servers did not work). In the network
properties for internal network i checked Add Automatic Address
Translation rule and picked Hide as the translation method (Hide behind
the interface of the install on Gateway). First of all do i need to
configure NAT inorder for my network to work correctly. If so is my NAT
rules incorrect. Please advice.
Our network looks like this
ClientCheckpointGateway
 Server
10.10.20.60/20  ExternalInternal
10.10.58.200/20
10.10.16.40   10.10.58.190
The Ip pool that i assigned is network 10.9.62.0/24. The secureclient got
an ip address 10.9.62.1 when it connected to the gateway. The server can
ping the client but the client cannot ping the gateway. Also in the log i
do not see any packets being dropped.
Any help is greatly appreciated, my boss is sitting on top of me so i had
look for help quickly.
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Re: [FW-1] SecureClient and Internal Network Access

2004-09-02 Thread Ray
Hi Bob,
Is there some reason you can't go to a current version of the firewall and
SecureClient? You are putting a lot of risk into the picture if you plan on
using such an old version in the real world. To see if the FP2 version is an
issue, you can download an evaluation version of R55 which comes with a
fully functional license for 15 days. Since this is a test setup, that's
what I'd do.
I'm getting confused by how you have your subnets arranged. I'm assuming
you're using the same masks as you use in real life. Can you change the
external network tio a 192.168 range to keep it totally different from the
internal network?
Ray
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] SecureClient and Internal Network Access
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:33:37 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Ray,
 Let me thank you for . Actually let me draw the network again so
that it is clear. I saw that formatting messed it up a little. I have
attached a text file for better clarity. Right now the entire test
bed is in the lab. So we are using 10.x.x.x addresses for both internal and
external network on checkpoint gateway.
1. Client and checkpoint gateway's external sit on the same subnet
(10.10.16.0/255.255.240.0)
2. Server and checkpoint gateway's internal interface sit on the same
subnet
(10.10.48.0/255.255.240.0)
So there is no need for router here right because client can reach
checkpoint gateway's external interface directly and Server can reach
checkpoint gateway's internal interface directly. But i added the following
static route on the server to 10.9.62.x network.
10.9.62.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.58.190
So the server knows how to get to 10.9.62.0 network.
Now coming to version of secure client i am using checkpoint NG FP2 build
52032.
sqa is the group created for remote access
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External N/w on checkpoint:-  10.10.16.0
Internal N/w  on checkpoing:-10.10.48.0
I am using Traditional Mode policy.
-thanks
Bob

Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your NAT is probably OK. Do you have a static route on the gateway so it
knows how to route the 10.9.xxx.xxx traffic to the next hop internal
router?
Do your internal routers know to send all 10.9.xxx.xxx traffic back to the
gateway?
Which version of SecureClient? Are you using SCV? What do your desktop
security rules look like?
Normally you cannot ping the gateway unless you add a rule to allow it. Is
this a simplified or traditional policy? Do you have a specific rule in the
rule base to allow the SecureClient traffic access into and out of the
internal network?
Ray
From: Bob
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FW-1] SecureClient and Internal Network Access
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:03:03 -0700

Hi All,
 We are using checkpoint NG FP2. We configured checkpoint gateway
so that the SecureClient can have remote access to the internal networks.
The servers in the internal networks can reach (pings work) the secure
clients but the secure clients cannot reach the internal network or any
servers (pings or http access to any servers did not work). In the
network
properties for internal network i checked Add Automatic Address
Translation rule and picked Hide as the translation method (Hide
behind
the interface of the install on Gateway). First of all do i need to
configure NAT inorder for my network to work correctly. If so is my NAT
rules incorrect. Please advice.

Our network looks like this
Client CheckpointGateway
 Server
10.10.20.60/20 External Internal
10.10.58.200/20
 10.10.16.40 10.10.58.190
The Ip pool that i assigned is network 10.9.62.0/24. The secureclient got
an ip address 10.9.62.1 when it connected to the gateway. The server can
ping the client but the client cannot ping the gateway. Also in the log i
do not see any packets being dropped.

Any help is greatly appreciated, my boss is sitting on top of me so i had
look for help quickly.
-thanks,
sam



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[FW-1] Best reporting software for NG AI?

2004-09-02 Thread Ray
We need to purchase a reporting package that will automatically generate
reports and distribute them I've just started testing an eval of SmartView
Reporter but I was wondering what other programs people are using. It
particularly would be nice to be able to create a report of things trying
to connect by a specific service, such as PPTP or IPSec, that get dropped. A
built-in query system would be wonderful.
These would be more for audit usage than pretty pictures for non-technical
management. Something a firewall administrator could use to help in the job.
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[FW-1] VPN routing question

2004-09-03 Thread Ray
I just set up a test VPN from an R55 gateway to an Edge XU box and I now
have my computer on it's internal network.
When I have SecureClient running on my computer, I can't get to the real
internal network. I have to disable the policy, even though this new
internal network is allowed in the desktop security policy, and also stop
SecureClient. Then everything works OK.
I vaguely recall reading about this before and it seemed that it had
something to do with the topology being fed to SecureClient. All remote
access will be to the R55 gateway and then down the site-to-site VPN to the
Edge internal networks. We are using hub mode for SecureClient.
Any pointers would be appreciated!
Thanks,
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