Re: [lace] Question
At 03:00 AM 26/04/2009, Jean Nathan wrote: I have been watching video footage of bobbin lace being made and noticed the very short amount of thread between last worked pin and the top of the bobbin and wondered what most of you all do. For me, it all depends on a number of things: such as - the number of bobbins, the size of the pillow etc. Now that I have virtually a lace desk (rather than pillow) I can afford to really spread my bobbins out when there are many of them. Hence whilst working on pieces like Miss Channer's mat I sometimes have the length of thread up to 12 (30cm) long. It doesn't not seem to make any difference to the work itself, and I can't say I've had any more breakages because of the extra length. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Rosemary Shepherd
Dear Friends, Would anybody have a current email address for Rosemary Shepherd please? thanks David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Rosemary Shepherd - thanks
Dear Friends, many thanks - you're all treasures David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: Miss Channers Mat...
Dear Clay - who's waiting for the postman I've just seen the latest update from Julian, and your mat is growing by leaps and bounds!!! My dear man - how DO you do it??? Specifically, how can you work so many hours at a time and not have your back just scream and seize with pain?? I count myself lucky that in all my years of nursing I never once felt a twinge in my back. HOWEVER, only 2 weeks ago I did pull something in the sacral region but it's slowly improving. I can at least take my shoes off now. When it comes to lace making I would no doubt be rapped over the knuckles by most teachers. For I tend to sit very low down (on my couch) and lean forward over the lace desk. Somehow or other there;s no trouble with spinal aches. I did find that when I sit at a normal height my back got tired. Of course I have a very bright halogen lamp to help - not to mention the magnifiers :) David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer goes Chantilly
At 04:13 PM 16/04/2009, Lynn Scott wrote: David that is an astounding piece of lace. The other astounding thing is how do you manage your time so well - you have so much on the go. Lynn, lace is my relaxation therapy and I wouldn't start any day without it - at least 3 or 4 hours of it :) Then the rest is done while I watch night time TV David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Happy Birthday to Lace@Arachne.com
At 01:25 PM 12/04/2009, jeria...@aol.com wrote: My calendar says that we started our friendships on April 12, 1995. Thank you Liz, for your generosity. Dear Friends, And some of us are even still here!!! I often wonder what has become of some of those who used to write here so often. People such as:- - Thara BAKER-ALLEY - USA - Montserrat ARCOS- Spain - Tammy BARAN - Maryland, USA - Virginia BERRINGER - Akron, OH, USA - Penny BOSTON - CO, USA - Karen BOVARD - NE, USA - Janet CHARLTON - Auckland, NZ - Maeve BROWN-DE HETRE - FL, USA - Pam DOTSON, Everett, WA, USA - Christine HANCOCK, Salisbury, Sth Australia - Carole LASSAK - Dublin, OH, USA - Susan MacLEOD - VT, USA - Rev. Doug MARLOW - NY, USA - Maus - NJ, USA - Sabine MEIER - Weingarten, Germany - Elaine MERRITT - CA, USA - Deborah METTERS - Manchester, UK - LaRae MIKULECKY - NE, USA - Karisse MOORE - TX, USA - Jana NICOL - MI, USA - Katja NYBOE - Copenhagen, Denmark - Outi RISSOMAN - Finland - Debi PENNINGTON - WA, USA - Baerbel POEHLE - Berlin, Germany - Dale POMEROY - UT, USA - Joan POSENER - Vancouver, BC, Canada - JoAnne PRUITT - IA, USA - Adrienne QUINLAN - Norwich, UK - Morris SCOTT - OH, USA - Sue SOUTHARD - AR, USA - Jim STAVAST - UT, USA - Lloyd TENNIES - PA, USA - Stormy Lee VANDENHOUTEN - WA, USA - Diane WILLIAMS - IL, USA - Tim WINSTANLEY - Pretoria, Sth Africa - who could ever forget that tirade out of Tennessee which we had to endure for 6 months or so some year back :) And no doubt many others. Perhaps you have kept in touch with some of these good folk. I know I'm still great friends with Stormy Lee and we speak on the phone a couple of times a year. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Postcard on ebay
Dear Friends, Saw this great postcard on ebay - a woman making lace in Beer, Devon about 1910 Item number: 200328535281 David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Dear Alex, right now I'm very snowed under preparing to conduct Thurlow Weed's world premiere next Saturday and frankly my mind is on that rather than lace making techniques. What I can say off the top of my head is that Chantilly is far more than just black and half-stitch. I have incorporated the carrying of bobbins along with the gimps; larger Toender-like holes; far fewer twists than in Bucks Point; I also have no qualms about using Elwyn Kenn's looper technique when possible. In short my Miss Channer is quite a mixture. However, the finished result will be far more readily classified as Chantilly than Bucks Point. Back to arranging brass parts David I am very curious as to why working Miss Channer's mat in black with half stitch for the 'clothwork' areas should be called 'going Chantilly'. Surely you are just making Bucks Point using black thread. Bucks Point was frequrntly made using black thread and then the 'clothwprk' areas were invariably worked in half stitch. Please will you explain which techniques you are using make it Chantilly instead of Bucks Point. Intrigued Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace
Bev Angel, Whilst I myself have not done it, you might want to compare with portraits of Sir Francis DRAKE who was a 2nd cousin to Sir Walter RALEIGH. David in Ballarat Just for fun I googled images of Sir Walter Raleigh for whom there seem to be heaps of portraits. Yes, there is a comparison in the style of beard, and general face, can see how the one would remind you of the other. Almost all the images of Sir Walter Raleigh have him wearing a smallish neck ruff. An early one, c. 1585 has a very wide collar (what is the flip description, head on a platter I think), with probably needlelace trim. At first I thought he had lace in his hair, but have decided that is a hat, possibly patterned velvet to match the garment. Here is a link showing Sir Walter's lace collar: http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/image69256.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re: hanky sizes
At 02:34 AM 13/03/2009, Sue wrote: Blow their nose on hand made lace!! God forbid, I always attach a little note saying for show not to blow Back in the late 70s my dear old Granny McGARVIE once gave a hanky back to me because the lace was too rough on her nose!! David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace
Thanks Lindy. So has he got one blue eye and one brown eye, or is that artistic licence with lighting :) David http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html the lace is clearer. Lindy in Ireland - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
Dear Clay, Not everyone works with spangled bobbins. I have to say, those spangles come in handy for keeping the bobbins in order, but I rarely use this kind of bobbin. Continental bobbins present their own set of challenges. My favorite system (which I have not come even *close* to mastering...) is when those huge 12 pins are used to scoop up 6 - 8 bobbins at a time and stack them vertically in front of another set... Just an amazing sight to see... I have to say I've often wondering just how Continental bobbins are kept in any sort of order without any spangles to thread on things. Since you're using 12 pins, you might even consider those 1mm (or less) metal lace knitting needles. They are what I use to support my stacks of bobbins. However, I wouldn't want too many 1mm holes in a styrene based pillow David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives.../ideas for stacking bobbins
I watched a lacemaker working with hundreds of Midlands pairs, a big Beds. piece on a large cookie pillow, and she was able to pick up groups of bobbins, twist the bundle once so that the leader threads were all together, and left them back of the pillow. Now THAT'S an intriguing idea which I haven't tried yet. Must give it a go. But it certainly sounds feasible. My giant safety pins made by cutting a plastic coated coat hanger in half, hold around 32 bobbins each depending on the flamboyancy of the spangle. David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] stacking bobbins for Miss Channer
Janis, When I had 350 or so bobbins on the pillow doing battle with Miss Channer's demanding mat, and ran out of stitch holders, I used shoe-laces to tie up bundles of bobbins. The end of a shoe-lace threads easily through a spangle and tied with a bow, the bundle can be stacked anywhere and released quickly. I had tried that, but found they didn't want to come off the shoe laces very easily. So then I got an even longer length of that plastic coated electric wire. It was better but not very manageable. I think I probably should have used shorter lengths. Thanks David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
Dear Margot, I've tried that and it didn't work for me. What I've made are like giant safety pins - 2 from each plastic coated coat hanger cut in half. Each of these will hold about 32 bobbins, but we are talking close to 400 bobbins here. I did try that method where I threaded a hundred or so onto one long piece of electric wire, but they didn't come off easily enough. It'll get easier once I start to throw some out permanently. Thanks though David Here's a hint to help manage the bobbins. Instead of using knitting stitch holders, I use extra long hat pins. It's very easy to slide one through the spangles, then raise the hat pin to a vertical position, and stick in the pillow. You can 'store' many more bobbins in less space and it's easy to move the hat pins around. I'm using some antique hat pins - one of my many excuses for haunting flea markets - and many that I've made myself using very fine, sharply pointed knitting needles with beads glued on one end. They're pretty too! Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
Dear Friends, Firstly I would personally like to thank Julian for the wonderful job he is doing maintaining that website whereon he posts my photos. I am currently at about the half way mark with Miss Channer and finding the going quite tough. Not the stitches themselves - the tediousness comes in managing the sheer number of bobbins, which are all indeed necessary. I now have the maximum amount on board (will count them at the end) and sometimes can only work a couple of passes before I have to unload a whole lot in order to progress. Despite all that, I am really pleased with the effect that is appearing from behind the pins. In the meantime, I have a Proposal re Miss Channer, (Or should that be for)? Wouldn't it be great if all those here who have made this piece could send a photo of it to Julian - or indeed friends of those here. Just so we could see a whole page of the various results of Miss Channer's Mat. I'm quite sure that each would have it's own unique characteristics and it would be fascinating to compare them all. Let's face it there probably are all that many around Just a thought David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re Miss Channer goes Chantilly
Rhiannon, I believe David was working on his resizing back in 2003 according to the archive- is this so? That was probably when I actually resized the pricking. I have to confess that I did it first in order that it would fit on to one A4 page :) And I'm fairly sure that I had to take it to the local printers to get that done as there was no way then that I could scan anything larger than A4 (still can't). However, today I would probably try photographing the pricking with my digital camera - then fiddling. Nine inches does not seem very big; that must need some extra special patience. Nah - patience has just never been an issue with me. The whole exercise of lace making is always like meditation therapy. That is of course until something drastic goes wrong. The language that issues forth then could hardly be called meditative!! (As witnessed the entire Melbourne Lace Group one days some years ago when a certain woman knock my pillow on to the floor). Top work tho' David- your three day updates are making me keep on working my edging to get my black thread out for some katstich patterns! Only too pleased to be of serv ice :) David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Toender Lace Link Found
Thanks Debbie - I've found it now. You wouldn't believe the upset one little pesky Danish slashed O could cause. Here's the link which now works for me. http://www.margorsson.com/David_Collyer_T%C3%B8nder_Gallery.html Thanks again Julian. David Same here. My computer does not recognize that symbol.So, I went into the archives, and lo and behold, after waiting many hours for the archives to update, the URL there shows up with the symbol. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Toender tallies
Lorelei, A beautiful piece. the design is interesting. I wouldn't expect leaf tallies and cucumber tallies in English Bucks point. But they have slipped into the Danish version. Very interesting. Has anyone else seen this combination of elements in other Toender pieces? I must confess I hadn't seen them elsewhere in Toender either. This pricking dates from around 1850 I believe. I also realised towards the end of the piece that I was not working the raised tallies in the way I learned in Beds lace. Actually I'd forgotten how to do them so made it up and it worked. Here's what I did:- I was working away in half stitch making sure I had plenty of bobbins in there. Then when the point to start the tally was reached, I simply put 2 support pins into the pricking, worked the tally, then put 2 more support pins for the end of the tally, pushing them in a little further. Now back to the half stitch where a couple of passes each way went on top of the tally using my finger nail to guide the worker behind the 2 final pins. Of course this meant that I had to wait a mere 2 years to actually see my raised tallies as they were now on the under side of the work, but it was worth the wait, and did in fact work beautifully. David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] My Toender Lace
Dear Friends, Today as I watched the latest on our dreadful Victorian bush fires, I was able to finally complete my piece of Toender lace which I had commenced on 14 Jan 2007!! I have sent the final photos to Julian who will no doubt have them up on the website in a day or two. I do hope you get as much pleasure from them as I did in working this beautiful piece. Now if anyone has any ideas on how I could successfully get it to Princes Mary of Denmark Tasmania, I'd be most grateful to hear them. This evening I have wound a hundred or so pairs of bobbins in the finest black silk from Eva in Spain and at last have commenced the legendary Miss Channer's Mat. This silk came on a large spool and seems to me to be about equal to Pipers 2/20. I have reduced the pricking to about 2/3 the original size and as far as possible am converting the mat from Floral Bucks Point to Chantilly. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Toender Lace
Julian, And if by magic here are the pictures of his exquisite Tønder Lace edging for you to admire: http://www.margorsson.com/David_Collyer_Tønder_Gallery.html How come the link doesn't work for me??? I've tried going from your homepage, and even replacing the Danish o with an English one, but still get an error message David - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Toender Lace
At 03:11 PM 13/02/2009, Adele Shaak wrote: Have you somehow blocked the site on your computer? Just so David doesn't feel all alone - it doesn't work for me either. I get a message telling me to try going to margorsson.com and search from there, but when I do I can't find it. Whew Adele, that makes me feel a lot better. Exactly the same for me David Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Fires
At 07:57 AM 9/02/2009, Ruth Budge wrote: Last night when I went to bed the death toll was 85when I woke up this morning it was 103, and expected to rise further. It seems as if with every news broadcast the toll rises. At 0130 hrs on Tuesday morning the toll has just been updated to 156 and rising. There are still hundreds of burned out homes which have not been entered yet. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Metallic thread for needlelace
Dear Liz, I need to use gold thread in Needlelace - for the cordonette around the edge, and maybe(Probably) for some couronnes (the little fancy rings that are stab stitched on afterwards.) I have Madeira #40 gold 4, Sulky Metallic, and Butterfly brand (a 3 ply so I would use only one of the plys, I think) When it came to tatting in fine metallics some years ago I tried them all and found that Kreinik Japan silver and gold were the best by far, David Question - Has anyone had any experience with using any of these for Needlework - needlelace or Embroidery? I am wondering how easily the gold splits and wears through to the cotton core (I am presuming they all are made similarly) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Beds Lace on Ebay
Dear Friends, this nice cloth looks like Bedfordshire Lace to me 300288500627 David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Tamara's Toss
Dear Friends, Some of you may recall that large piece of Toender lace I've been working on. Well this week I finally got back to it after about 18 months doing other things! I've added a couple more inches this week and am half way through turning the last of the 4 corners. Whilst making one of the numerous tallies, I was half way through one when the phone rang. I instantly recalled what I've always thought of an Tamara's Toss - because it was the Duchess who taught it to me. That is, when in the situation in which I found myself, you simply toss the working bobbin straight over the back away from you and that tally will not move. Thanks T - I've done it often. What has amazed me this week, is that after almost 18 months away from a piece, I can recall exactly how many passes in the average tally (32) and how many pairs I needed in the various floral motifs. So now I have about half of the last side to do and will post some more photos as soon as the progress is worthwhile. For those who want to see this piece, go to:- http://www.margorsson.com/Men_n_Lace.html and click on David Collyer Enjoy David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Bucks versus Toender et al
Dear Sue, I am an avid Bucks Point fan but try as I might I cannot detect what the essential difference is between Bucks and Tonder perhaps you could enlighten me. In my experience the main differences are these:- - Toender is worked in the opposite direction from Bucks (but I don't) - Toender is characterized by - large holes surrounded by honeycomb stitch I find these days that regardless of which point ground lace I am making, I use Chantilly techniques, and probably a few I've developed myself. The end result looks lovely and only a lace-maker could tell the difference. I very rarely fill in a petal for a floral motif with whole stitch - too easy to see when you either have too many or too few bobbins. Half stitch is much more forgiving. Also, I never put any extra twists on the inside of a gimp in a motif. That way the filling always comes right up to the gimp. Sometimes I will add an extra one or two on the outside to compensate. I use Elwyn KENN's looper technique whenever possible in order to avoid the need for adding in short extra gimps. Can't thank of anything else relevant right now David in Ballarat Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] needle lace revisited
Dear Friends, I second that comment about being able to do cross stitch on a plane. Of course, tapestry needles aren't exactly sharp! I even had my pendant cutter admired by security staff at Cardiff Airport. Needless to say I didn't admit it had a blade in it :-) I've done cross stitch on a plane just a couple of years ago. I had actually taped my rather blunt needle to one of my keys and no-one noticed. The crew didn't even think of confiscating my work. Another time (or may be even that time) my circular pendant cutter dropped and came in two on the floor. There was a beautiful round razor blade lying on the floor. I very smartly put it back together again :) David in Ballarat - slowly getting over shingles. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: pin sizes etc
Dear Tamara and other readers, Some years back, when I was still dabbling with Point Ground, I *did* use a different -- colour-headed -- pin, to hang a gimp from. For the same reason that Clay mentioned -- to remind myself to remove it, before it got locked beyond the ability to tension the gimp properly. But that happened only once-twice per repeat, so I never needed more than a couple of those. Having to use a thicker pin for every picot... Yuck. The pins I use to hang in gimp are actually sewing needles with a bead glued over the eye. I remove them after only one or two pins. It's never been an issue. However, with the use of bigger pins for picots, I should have been more clear. Because I am talking point ground laces here, the picots are only right around the edge, and as such you simply end up with the larger pins along both footside and headside as well as forming a line where you begin. It's no problem at all. I then end up pushing those pins right in and removing the small Withof pins as I go and bringing them up to the front. So when the work is finished, there are simply the larger pins to remove which go separately into their own box. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Handy Hint
Dear Friends, After working on a petit point portrait for the past 10 months, I finally got back to doing some BL yesterday. As I leave for 3 weeks up in the Northern Territory of Australia on Nov 9th, I needed to get something started to take with me. So I've begun the most gorgeous square edging in Point de Lille from that fabulous book called Ecke (p.72 for those who have it). I'm working it in some beautiful fine black silk (about equal to Pipers 2/20) but this came from Spain. Only had to wind about 160 bobbins, but that merely took the time to watch a double episode of The Bill and one other show :) Now, as I've been working ALL day on it today (I'd almost forgotten just how addictive BL can be) I started to think about things I might be doing that others may not be. Probably numerous small techniques, but one which I may have made up myself (along with numerous other folk no doubt) is this. Because the pricking, and hence thread, are so fine, I use those brass Withof pins which are only about half an inch (1.25 cm) long. They work perfectly well. However, I notice I get a much lovelier effect if, when it comes to the picots on the edge I use an ordinary sized lace pin. These have a larger diameter and really show off the picot. I also use these ordinary sized pins (which happen to be silver coloured) at the starting edge. Admittedly some of these are in the point ground, but others can be on the edge of a half stitch filling of a flower, or even in a honeycomb section. I find that when the piece is finished and it comes to doing sewings to join end to beginning, it's much easier having these slightly larger holes. Just thought this might be of use to someone out there, as I can't say I've read it in any books. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re: Raffle
At 11:57 PM 1/11/2008, Clay Blackwell wrote: Knowing with a fair degree of certainty that I would not be one of the lucky winners, I bought myself my *own* socks this week, when I spotted them on sale, half-price! They're black with silver and purple spiderwebs! The threads for the webs has some metallic stuff in them, and are also fuzzy, so they're quite outrageous! But they sure were fun to wear, and kept my feet nice and warm too! And here's me busy knitting my own! LOL Will have to design a spider motif - I can feel it in my water. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re: Raffle
At 11:57 PM 1/11/2008, Clay Blackwell wrote: Knowing with a fair degree of certainty that I would not be one of the lucky winners, I bought myself my *own* socks this week, when I spotted them on sale, half-price! They're black with silver and purple spiderwebs! The threads for the webs has some metallic stuff in them, and are also fuzzy, so they're quite outrageous! But they sure were fun to wear, and kept my feet nice and warm too! And here's me busy knitting my own! LOL Will have to design a spider motif - I can feel it in my water. David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Really small thin bobbins. Why?
Brian, I have about 6 which sound similar to yours. I have always tended to regard them as my oldest bone bobbins, simply because of the amount of ware. A couple are almost worn half away on the shaft. Each also seemed to have very simple spangles, of say, just one bead and a button. But of course, that could have been done at any time, David in Ballarat Today I poured them out on to the table to just see what I had and I separated out about 6 very short, very thin, bone bobbins. They had been spangled. I have always thought that they were very old (whatever that means) but then as I looked at them, they had clearly been used a lot (warn smooth, spangle holes very large etc) I began to wonder if they might have had a special role in lace making. Why would historic lace makers want such small bobbins, (just because they had them?) or did they have a special role in lace making? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] dilema
Dear Friends, How about using simple flour paste -- flour and water (mix and cook one minute in the microwave). It dissolves in water if you want to loosen it. This paste is used to mount fans leaves to fan sticks so should work on your backing fabric. My Granny always added a little Methylated Spirits to that glue - she said it stopped it going off and smelling. She used an awful lot of it in her Papier Mache and I still have a couple of examples which are just fine, even though they are now over 70 years old. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] dilema
At 07:28 AM 17/10/2008, Sue Babbs wrote: Definitely not fray check - it goes yellow after a short while. I've heard that. but it is my experience that the Australian version of Fray Stop does NOT go yellow. Wonder what the difference is??? David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Guidelines for non lacemaking judges of lace
G'day Sue, So we felt we needed to set up some guidelines to help the judges. They need to be simple and not to lengthy so thought a posting to Arachne would bring some good ideas into us. When I'm judging I look for some of the following:- - immaculate cleanliness - invisible finishing - evenness of tension - competency in technique - originality of design (if appropriate) - consistency of elements - picots, plaits/bars, spiders, fans, grounds etc. - adequate number of bobbins thrown in and out for whole stitch or half stitch areas Then after I've covered those aspects I would get into more subjective aspects:- - tastefulness of colour - presentation - mounting, framing etc. Hope that is of some use David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] pumpkin recipes?
Dear Friends, You could consider Pumpkin Soup. You would have to roast the pumpkin first, then make the soup. Search Pumpkin Soup Recipe to get several versions. I found one but my computer won't let me copy the address and print it in this email. Here is the best Pumpkin Soup recipe sent to us by Julie in 1997:- One of my family's favorite fall dishes is Pumpkin Soup in a Pumpkin. The hard part can be finding appropriate pumpkins after Halloween. Cut a lid from and hollow out a pumpkin (8 to 10 pounds is a good size.) Inside the pumpkin, layer toasted bread (any kind of bread seems to work as long as it's good bread) with grated gruyere or other swiss cheese and sauteed chopped onion. I usually fill the pumpkin about 3/4 full. Sprinkle on a little nutmeg. Pour in scalded milk or cream, or half chicken broth and half milk or cream, to within an inch or so of the lid. Top with a bay leaf, and bake in the oven until the pumpkin is tender. It's safest to put it in a deep pan, just in case it springs a leak. Serve by scooping the pumpkin flesh with the filling and broth. I have also found that the tiny pumpkins often sold as decorations are outstandingly delicious! I steam them, cut lids, scoop out the seeds, and bake them with a ricotta custard or apple/raisin/sausage filling. Their flesh is creamier and more flavorful than pie pumpkin. Love, Julie via David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
At 02:30 AM 29/08/2008, BarbE wrote: David, that is like asking which child do I like best.. smiles, BarbE BarbE dear - you are allowed to change from day to day :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] honeycomb delight (or favorite stitches)
At 03:48 AM 29/08/2008, Clay Blackwell wrote: Apple Blossom fillings? They sound beautiful - but I've never run across those before. More info? Clay, I took that to mean the half stitch chantilly type filling of a flower in point ground. David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
Dear Patty, Yes I love honeycomb. (David, are you working on the Toender again?) Not yet - just had to whack out a Bucks Point bookmark for a woman at my sister's workplace, and was revelling in the honeycomb. Still have a few months left on the petit point portrait I'm doing before getting back to that Toender. And I am definitely in the halfstitch camp. I love half stitch in Chantilly, where it positively scintillates, since the tilt of each bit of half stitch changes. It's kind of the same effect as Thai silk where the warp and the weft are different colors (sometimes called shot silk?). In Chantilly, you add and remove pairs madly to keep the half stitch consistent, instead of letting it inflate and deflate to cover the available territory. Gorgeous writing - and I couldn't agree more. But what could keep happy enough to skip meals is Binche snowflakes! sigh.. HOWEVER, I have to confess that when I made my Binche doily (the one that looks like it's full of embryos from Syllabus One) the snowflakes drove me crazy. No two were the same and I never did learn or remember anything of that pattern. David - once again trying to get to bed, but you all keep answering :) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] tapioca pudding and other desserts
Dear Bev, many thanks for those great looking recipes. It was also some time before I knew that the British say 'pudding' for what we call 'dessert' (where we say what's for dessert...) I think the Brits are the same as us. However, for us a pudding must be hot and baked. We can still say What's for dessert? But that could include such gorgeous things as cold Pavolva, or hot or cold lemon meringue pie - anything sweet following the main course. David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] New website
Dear Alex Jean, your website is simply splendid. Thanks so much for sharing David in Ballarat My friend Jean has produced a web site for both of us at http://web.mac.com/jeanmaryeke. There is something about us, Lindfield Lacemakers and Designers and a free pattern that will be changed periodically. Jean has only had her computer, her first, for 2 months and I think she has done well. Can you open it? What do you think? Any suggestions? and can you download the pattern? Alex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honeycomb delight
Dear Friends, Don't you just love doing Honeycomb stitch??? I do. I did a big mob of it today. I just find it so gorgeous with it's tessellating hexagons - not to mention the way it fills whole areas so quickly. Perhaps you have a favourite stitch you'd like to tell us about David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honeycomb delight
At 01:59 AM 29/08/2008, Ilske Thomsen wrote: Bev, pleas, what's tapioca pudding Better move that to chat Bev and give us all your recipe. I wonder how it differs from my Mum's David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] hitches on the bobbin
Dear Diana and others interested. I make mostly Bucks Point lace with fairly fine thread and I use two hitches sometime three. This maybe depends on the bobbin as some seem to slip. I trouble understanding this. Surely you must be making your hitch incorrectly. I know we've discussed this here before on numerous occasions, and as Sr Claire said, she had been making her hitch wrongly for years. I too do mainly point ground laces usually in very fine 2/20 silk, but sometimes in silk which is finer than human hair. I have never found the need for more than one hitch. Mind you, I also never use the heads on the bobbins, but put the single hitch on the thread itself. Stays beautifully all the time Bye now David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] What are you doing instead of IOLI Convention
Dear Friends, the list sure is quiet. S, I thought I'd ask what you are doing this week lace-wise. Not much actually - lace-wise. I have about 2 months more work to do on this petit point portrait I'm doing in 16 shades of BW at 50 sts per inch. I'm managing to put in about 3 hours per day. After that I shall get back on to my large piece of Toender and finish the last side. Am also madly rehearsing and MD-ing Nunsense 2 or 3 nights a week as well. Can't wait to get into my habit. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] David's work in Lace Mag.
Dear Devon, I have a question about David's work in Lace. What is the story behind the eagle pattern. Where did you get the pattern, or did you make it yourself? I know of a piece similar this (a border) and it is supposed to have historical US connections, but perhaps that story is untrue. I designed that doily from the border you've seen. Don't ask me to do it again please :) David in Ballarat Devon **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1585 - Release Date: 1/08/2008 6:39 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace Bobbins
Dear Daphne, I'm still waiting for the question David in Ballarat Hello Fellow Lacemakers My husband asked me to ask all of you this question. Bone bobbins versus wood bobbins While a lot of bobbins are turned in hard woods are not so easy to come by. It takes a lot of time to grow the trees, where`as the bones are easier to get, because most are cattle bones. I look forward to your replies. Daphne Sunny but chilly Norfolk England [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of elephant_en.gif] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 21/07/2008 6:42 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Help - I'm surrounded by men!!!
Sue Lorri I can empathise with you I am in the same or similar 'boat'. I also have the addition of my husband's disability which forces more tasks onto me. I am in the opposite camp. Today I was surrounded by women in my role as Musical Director for the show Nunsense. I almost tore out the rest of my hair!!! Once again - thank God for a bit of sanity on Arachne :) David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Agnes lace discolouration
Dear Agnes, If you have added lemon juice, you may need to rinse it gently a couple of times in plain water to ensure that no residue has stayed behind. Once you get to the point where you think it is as clean as it will ever be, take it out of the water and lay flat on a white towel or similar on a drying rack. Gently ensure it is laid in shape, without tuggng the fabric. I agree with you whole heartedly. However, I was always taught that the bleaching effect of lemon juice is activated by sunlight. That's why whenever I've used your method I always put the flat lace/fabric etc. out in the sunshine. Works a treat David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: origin of a word
At 02:21 AM 13/06/2008, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Jun 12, 2008, at 11:47, David in Ballarat wrote: The ive ending is usually reserved for adjectives. Know any other similar examples of nouns? Prerogative. Palliative. Motive. All function as both nouns and adjectives, as does detective. I think all of them are, probably, of French origin and ended, originally, in -if. One of these days, who knows, we may be having an aperitive in the afternoon :) Interesting, and probably correct. However, of the 3 samples you offered, only motive operates as a noun in Australian English, the other 2 remain as adjectives - nope - I have heard prerogative used as a noun - sorry. But Palliative is mostly followed by Care - perhaps always so, although I'm always reluctant to use an absolute. :) David in Ballarat -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1499 - Release Date: 12/06/2008 7:13 AM To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Magnifiers
Dear Shirlee, Does anyone have any experience with the magnifier that you pin or clip to your pillow? I just LOVE my magnifier which is very portable - can't live without it in fact these days. Do a search for MAGVU and you'll find it. I think it might be an Australian product but I'm sure they'll send one anywhere. Worth every cent. I recently bought one for my sister as a present and she too loves it. Usual disclaimers - just pushing something that works. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Away for a week
Dear Friends, I am leaving for a week in New Zealand at 5:30 tomorrow morning and so shall be unsubscribing. The NZ Govt is finally having a welcome home march for Vietnam Veterans and as I missed the ones here in Australia, I shall be joining about 6 of my mates from the Intelligence Section of BHQ 2 RAR/NZ ANZAC Battalion to march through the streets of Wellington. Bye now David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton Thread label
At 03:15 AM 24/05/2008, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Patsy asked about the writing on the label of a skein of old lace thread she bought in the Honiton Lace Shop some years ago. A scan of the label is at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/honiton_label.jpg Hm - I copied it into PaintshopPro - made it black and white and increased the shadows markedly. Now it certainly looks like the first bit says An - which would mean that the next word should start with a vowel. However, the only possibility with which I can come up would be ogre, and I'm sure that's not it. Now IF the first word is NOT An, it's final letter would seem to be the same as the initial letter in the 2nd word, viz. n. This 2nd word certainly does seem to end with re, but it' s the 2nd letter which has got me stumped. Can't think of any appropriate letter which descends below the line - g, y, j, p, q, I give up and am going to bed as I turned into a pumpkin hours ago David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton Thread label
At 03:28 AM 24/05/2008, Ruth Hollands wrote: Patsy and Brenda Looks like 'Antique Thread 230' but then I may be wrong! Of course it is - now I'll slepp soundly thanks David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace ID Help
At 07:15 PM 17/05/2008, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Hello Linda Looks like Irish crochet to me. It's a form of crochet with lots of padding and raised work done to imitate Venetian Gros Point needle lace. Brenda To me it is straight out Irish Crochet. David in Ballarat URLs: www.costumegallery.com/temp/image1.jpg www.costumegallery.com/temp/image2.jpg - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Newsletters
Dear Jeanette The only one I could think of was ..Shine a torch on your lace - torchon!!! No - that's a bit too obvious. It should be more like: - light up your lace or - make lace without a candle during power outage. Here's one for you to guess:- - cotton on with reading herein (6 letters) scroll down = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = answer: - thread David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Dictionary
Dear Friends, Jean, your suggestion that Alex start with OCR is excellent... But she doesn't need to use an old program... My HP scanner/printer/copier has a setting in the scanner operation which allows me to scan in OCR format. Once done, the document can easily be modified. So, for a large project like this, Alex would find that investing in a scanner is just the thing, and will save days and days of hand-entry. I don't know how I would make lace without my handy scanner nearby!! I have found that my scanner made so many errors when using OCR that it just wasn't worth it. The time it took to proof read and correct these errors was about equal to typing the whole page in the first place. It particularly had difficulties with such things as ll or words like I'll David in Ballarat Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex, have you thought about Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software than can scan pages and turn them into documents that can be read by a computer? I got a free program on a computer magazine disk 10 year ago called 'Textbridge Pro 98', which still works fine on Windows XP. It can scan text, columns and magazine pages that can then be edited. Takes a bit to set up for a project, but once done is a lot quicker than typing in page after page from scratch. It's a bit crude by today's standards, but there must be good cheap (or even public domain) software that's more sophisticated now which would make your life much easier. On the subject of publishing on CD, although we like to think most lacemakers are honest, it's so easy to copy a CD, so this isn't the way I'd choose to go to publish. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1428 - Release Date: 12/05/2008 7:44 AM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Before lace
Dear Friends, It would be good if one or two of our male spiders would chip in on this one, I'd love to know what they did before lace. You've finally managed to push me into this thread :) - By the age of 8' I was able to do what we called finger crochet - just open chain using only your fingers, as well as French knitting - on the cotton reel hooking over the stitches. - by 10yrs I was knitting in garter stitch and still have the dolls cardigan I knitted about that time when I made my first attempt at Fair Isle. It was still all in garter stitch and looks a mess :) - in the early years of high school I learned to crochet - mainly in the back row of the school choir. - also during those Primary School years I had learned crewel embroidery, cross stitch, and Roman cut work. - by the time I was 18yrs old I could churn out jumpers in Arran and Fair Isle as well as Granny's socks, and knitted lacey layettes. - in my early 20s in London I started designing in both knitting and crochet - usually whilst on acid or speed - some amazing designs :) I remember vividly one night in 73 being at a Disco in Camden Town off my face and got this amazing inspiration for a layette for a new niece. I just had to get out of there to make it. So I WALKED home to Nottinghill Gate refining the design as I went. Of course the others beat me home in a cab. Nevertheless, 3 days later I emerged from my room holding that layette. My sister still has it, but never did hear the story of its inspiration. - for many years I'd longed to learn to tat and tried numerous times from a book, but the flick of the hitch never clicked until one day by accident when I was about 27yrs old. - It was about this time - mid 70s that I became aware of bobbin lace but never thought I would ever learn how to make it myself. - In 1980, during drug rehab I learned Carrickmacross and made a few nice pieces. After that I got into the very fine knitted lace cloths and Shetland shawls. - In the 80s and early 90s I refined and developed my tatting skills with much pleasure. - then late in 1995 I finally learned bobbin lace with the wonderful help of my friends on Arachne - perhaps the first to do so. Right now my large piece of Toender is 3/4 done and having a little rest for 6 months whilst I complete a petit point portrait on 40 count silk gauze. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Binche on eBay
At 11:18 AM 16/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have followed, with great interest, an auction on eBay for a beautiful piece of Binche lace which appeared to be a relatively recent piece. The auction ended today, with the handkerchief selling for nearly $500. As someone who has made several Binche handkerchief edgings (although none as stunning as this one...) I must say that while the price paid was high, the wages earned by the lacemaker were still appallingly low. Still, I am encouraged by the fact that the lace we make is becoming more valued! While I suspect that a lacemaker has bought this piece (I was tempted !), it is clear that our own valuation of our work helps drive up the market!! eBay ID number... 370041543780 Most interesting Clay. Now why don't we flood the market with that design ? :) Got a spare 3 months? David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fwd: CONVICT BONNETS
Dear Friends, Here's news of the Convict Bonnet project David in Ballarat The expected event in Hobart on the 8th March 2008 has been postponed 'ROSES FROM THE HEART' http://www.christinahenri.com.au/ Whilst it's disappointing that the event has been cancelled it gives everyone time to make some more bonnets. The expected event in Hobart on the 8th March 2008 has been postponed due to insufficient bonnets having been made. Keep checking Christina's website for further information on a new date. A display of the bonnets received to date will be held at Mawson Pavilion, Mawson Place Hobart. The opening will be on the 9th May and the bonnets will be open to the public from 10th-13th May. Displays will continue to be held until the full 25,566 bonnets are received and then the full installation will be exhibited. 'A memorial of the Bonnets' NEW EVENT AT THE OLD GEELONG GAOL in VIC Friday March 14th 2008 Commencing at 1.30pm a costumed re-enactment of the 1820 Sentencing of Females to be transported to Australia will take place. The Geelong production will be videoed and entry to the event is FREE. The event will be attended by Christina Henri who looks forward to meeting participants and supporters of her 25,566 bonnet project. Kaye http://www.femalefactory.com.au/ Mid Gippsland FHS http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mgfhs/convictbonnets.htm --- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 1/03/2008 5:41 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] What do you do ....
Dear Jenny, What do you do with your prickings? I have been making lace since 1 April 2005 and have held on to all the prickings since then, including the ones I have prepared but not used. The pile is getting rather unwieldy now. I have a drawer full of them - all signed and dated and threads named. Then when I'm going away for a month or so, I go through and pick out various smaller favourites to take with me. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace makers census
Dear Friends, I think you can safely say 'thousands' of lacemakers throughout the world - not 'tens' of thousands, but 'thousands' should cover it. There are about 500 in Canada, by my guesstimate, but let's say a thousand counting anyone who could possibly have tried bobbin lace. I WOULD say tens of thousands. You have 500 in Canada - there would be many more than that in the whole of Australia. Then think of those many small villages in Spain, France etc. whose lace-makers are not online. No doubt there are hundreds - if not thousands - in places such as India and Thailand as well. Not to mention, of course, our other well known places such as the USA, Sth Africa, Great Britain, Sandinavia, Sth Amercia etc. etc. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] swinging young lacemakers
Dear Anneke, I love that boy's attitude - that's exactly how I make my lace - especially the whack on the thigh!! :) David in Ballarat Last week, our two youngest grandchildren (both 9 years old) were over for a couple of days and wanted to have a try at lacemaking. They finished a snail and have now started on a mouse! They loved the lacemaking and did not even have time to get dressed. And all the time they were listening to swinging music! I simply had to get my camera and video them! If you want to see it: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMfRepZAB0 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: lacemaking helpers
Tamara, Yours, still trying to figure out (8 weeks later) some lacy use for scissors with a semi-circle taken out of one blade... The doctor did some snipping with them and then said here, want them? They'll only throw them away. So I took them, but still don't know what the advantage is (or might be) Any use for finger nails??? Or are they perhaps just for the heavier duty aortas :) David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lacemaking helpers
G'day Friends, I have a couple VERY useful little helpers. One is the electrical tool hackle plier which was recommended on this list some years ago (just prior to the swivel plier which comes from the same place). The other is a bush walker's head lamp. When I first looked at these about 3 years ago they were quite expensive at around AUS$40. However, these days I see much cheaper versions at the weekly markets for only about AUS$5. This little lamp has been invaluable when I've been out bush with no power and as it's on your forehead, it points to exactly where you are working. It will work just as well when at home, but as the batteries don't last all that long it's easier to use my halogen lamp. I also use the plastic pockets religiously, but mainly with cross-stitch and petit point when the pattern could be as much as 25 pages large. I keep them all together in one pocket with the thread colour chart on top. That way I can see at a glance which colour I am using. The actual page I am working on is on my desk with the highlighter pen beside it of course. Another very handy hint I can offer to embroiderers is that when you are doing a fine petit point (say 40 sts per inch or more) and it's difficult to locate the spot to start a new thread, find the spot and then immediately stick into it a pearl headed pin. This pin will be quite a bit thicker than your embroidery needle and when removed leaves a visible hole - also very handy for a bookmark if you have to dash off to answer the phone, make a coffee or go to the dunny :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Blue film
Jean I always wrap mine round the edges to the underside. Some just stick a piece over the pricked area of the card and leave an uncovered border round the edges. Others stick the film so it covers most of the card and then trim the edges of the card and film, so the film reaches right the edges. What do others do? I always do it your last way - i.e. trim the blue film right round. However, even if the pricking is rectangular or square, I always make the trimming end up as an oval shape. That way there are no corners for the bobbins and/or thread to catch on. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Blue film
Dear Betty Ann, One can buy contact paper without the shine and that works well. Yes indeed. But the shiny one is dirt cheap at every supermarket - less than $1 a roll for us - and it goes a loong way!! Personally I prefer blue for white thread, and green for black. All you need do it to scrub it with a new Scotchbrite scourer for a couple of seconds and woosh - you've got your matt film David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lacemaking helpers - for those who make petit point to use with lace
Dear Jeri, Many thanks for such an informative email. Sure sounds like you do things properly :) I know that my method would be heresy to many. However, I found years ago that neither frames nor hoops suit my style. I do indeed use the Swiss silk gauze, but I simply do the maths first and cut it large enough. Then I go round the edge using Fray Stop. I then commence the petit point from the top right corner. Mine are usually portraits and so every stitch on the gauze is filled in. I have found that if I choose the darkest colour first - usually black, or maybe a navy blue - then these stitches act like a book mark. I DO use highlighter pens, but as accidents can indeed happen I am religious about where I put them. I have found that for me, I will colour those black stitches say in blue on the chart, then I only use one other colour for all the rest. My eyes can cope with that. As I'm working top right to bottom left, there is very little grubbiness caused in the working. I even roll the fabric into a cylinder shape in my left hand as I go. Then when the work is finished, I wash it gently and block it to dry. Works perfectly for me. David in Ballarat If the chart is not colored, and has just symbols - I use a colored pencil (erasable) to color in the most dominant color in the area being worked. That way, all the zigs, zags and openings made by that color can be seen. It makes it easier to see to fill in the stitches in other colors, or if a counting error has occurred. I do not prestitch this dominant area, as it would result in puckers in embroidery and difficulty fitting in the other colors. I stitch the rows in order, starting in center row and all below it, then turn stretcher and chart and work all the rows in top half. I don't use highlighter pens near needlework. Accidents happen! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] mandoline
Rickie, Does anyone have a mandoline, and know how to use it? I bought a beautiful, nice stainless steel one years ago, in a fit of wanna-be-martha-stewart, but have never gotten the hang of setting it up, putting the blades in, and using it. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions that might help me actually make use of my investment? To me a mandolin is rather like a banjo and certainly does NOT have any blades. So I've no idea what you're talking about :) David in Ballarat All thumbs, suffering from buyer's remorse, To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace fuzz
At 09:28 AM 13/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm afraid I have the same problem with my two cats... They're both long-haired, and the undercoats are very fine and fluffy... Sometimes when I'm working, I'll actually see a tiny bit of fur gently settle out of the air onto the lace... g... so out come the tweezers. I have the same problem with my 2 cats. However, I don't see it as a problem but more as a signature of those of us who live in this home. Their fur stays in the lace!! My 2 would never dream of interfering with my bobbins and love to help making lace at every opportunity. So I reckon a little bit of them has a right to be incorporated :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Princess Lace Machine
Carol et al, I have looked at the pictures, and the pillow seems to be in good order but ... The bidders must have been crazy or didn't realize what they were bidding on. These things are only any good for yardage and having used mine twice I shall never use it again. Actually I have 2 of them which I picked up in rural Tasmania in the 1980s. I recall giving $70AUS each then - which was a fortune, considering I didn't even know how to make BL at that time. I shall certainly be putting mine on Ebay when I get around to it and will be prepared to ship anywhere as long as buyer is prepared to pay postage. David in Ballarat Can a lace pillow really be worth all that amount of money?I know we are a bit spoiled in the UK with suppliers of all sorts of things, but I can't believe that anyone here would spend as much as that.It looks quite a lovely piece of work, even though the pictures didn't seem very bright and clear, but some of my roller pillows would, I am sure, be just as efficient. So - please tell me what I have obviously missed - maybe I am just a tad dimmer than the average... Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: Laurie Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: [lace] Princess Lace Machine Take a look at the Princess Lace Machine that just sold on Ebay 330170130257 It's in the most perfect condition I've ever seen. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1082 - Release Date: 20/10/2007 2:59 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] hitches - video for beginners
At 06:10 PM 18/10/2007, Achim Siebert wrote: Not easy to get all this straightened out (scnr) - and since it can be so confusing I tried to avoid to put anything about that into the video. And imagine David who's even doing it upside down! Yes, but fortunately I now know that I am definitely ambidextrous :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Supposedly a lacemaking kit on ebay
Dear Jean, Any ideas on this item on ebay? http://tinyurl.com/36kql5 or search for item number 220161077819 I have one which is very similar but with finer pegs that are definitely ivory and it's a silk stocking repair and washing kit. David in Ballarat Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: winding bobbins
At 02:09 AM 18/10/2007, Kate Henry wrote: A good teacher can work with bobbins wound in any direction. Kate Henry Indiana USA It doesn't matter which way the bobbins are wound, providing that the hitch is done accordingly in order that it will hold the thread. That said, it's then just a matter of which way you unwind the thread, which only takes a minute to get used to when teaching. However, it is much easier and saves a lot of time if all students have their bobbins wound the same way. Thus, when they collect their instructions for the course, I always have very clear diagrams of the way I prefer my bobbins wound. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hitches - video for beginners
Dear Achim, It's been a while but today I took the time to test the video capabilites of my (photo) camera. Here's a video of me making hitches, without voice-over for now, but I intend to add some words later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4w4rdRlZWE Beautifully put together. Your first clockwise method is mine exactly. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Princess Lace Making Machine on eBay
At 09:08 PM 8/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you read through the posting, the seller has generously estimated that the Princess and bobbins are worth a total of $1,000, and has set his/her reserve at half that. Seems like a lot to me. And it's odd that they've got so many of those bobbins. You could never get them all on a pillow like that! Even working half those bobbins on that pillow would be a challenge! Gosh - and I've got 2 of them sitting in my spare room just waiting for me to get myself organized to SELL on Ebay instead of all this buying :) I did use my Princess pillow once - and only once - a pain in the a..se. David in Ballarat Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re Buddy map
Dear Heather, I'm located at N 49° 03.278 W 122° 21.214. I was surprised to see how recent the photo was. I can tell by the vehicles parked around my house that the picture was taken within the last two months! However, at another place that I lived, the picture is at least 2 1/2 years old - and the houses are only blocks from each other. Nice shot. So how far south of you is the USA border. Doesn't look very far. David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Buddy map
At 03:31 AM 8/10/2007, Avital wrote: LOL! Miriam Gidron says that you can see the roof tiles of her place with Google Earth. You could see the washing on my line if I had one :) David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Buddy map
I wonder if that mis-direction is on purpose; something ordered by the Homeland Security... Hmmm - don't know. Here are the co-ordinates for my house if anyone wants to look:- 37°33'20.80S 143°52'7.55E David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Blessing of the Convict Bonnets
Dear Friends, Here's another forward the those Convict Bonnets David in Ballarat From: Marg Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: M F H S Blessing of the Bonnets Hi All. We had our Blessing of the Bonnets today at our beautiful Mollymook Beach. What a fantastic day!! I recommend every society involved in the Roses of the Heart project to organise sewing bees and publish it in your local newspaper. Organise a blessing. The media response was fantastic. We invited our Member of Parliament and our Mayor. The local Baptist Pastor conducted the blessing. It was filmed by Department of Environment and WIN TV. This blessing was great for Christina Henri and her Roses of the Heart Project. The deadline in rapidly approaching. Let's show the world how easy it is to produce 25,266 bonnets in honour of our convict ancestors. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] AUS Convict Bonnets
Dear Friends, I'm forwarding this from a genealogy list as I know quite a number of you have made bonnets for this Convict Memorial. David in Ballarat From: Marg Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Blessing of the bonnets Hi All, If any listers are visiting the Milton Ulladulla/South Coast NSW area on Saturday 29th September come on down to Mollymook Beach at 10am and join the Blessing of the Bonnets. Members of Milton Ulladulla Family History Society and the local community have made in excess of 330 female convict bonnets to help Christina Henri in her project Roses of the Heart to complete 25,266 bonnets to pay tribute to every female convict that came to Australia. Christine Henri will be there. Please visit Christina's site http://www.christinahenri.com.au/ or Female Factory http://www.femalefactory.com.au/exhibit.htm#Roses and help Christina reach her target. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Strange item on ebay
Dear Friends, Only 17 hours to go but what on earth is it? David in Ballarat 290160314509 [] - Ebay # - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Beginner's questions about Bucks point lace
Dear Achim, - How many twists when entering a motif containing cloth stitch? I do one twist, but I think I read there could be none at all (P. Nottingham?), so that there's no gap between gimp and cloth stitch filling. So, coming with the worker through the headside passive pairs, I twist twice, go through the gimp (lift left), do one more twist and start cloth stitch. Right or wrong or simply depending on taste? I used to do what you are doing, but found from making Chantilly lace, that the motif looked better to my eye, if I did NO twists inside the gimp. That way the filling - whether it be whole or half stitch - comes right up to the gimp. And maybe I'm just too perfecionistic about my lace - I really want to do it right! (Who said anal? - I heard that!). You can't be :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Knitting terms.
Dear Ewa Brenda. Wrap Stitch isn't a standard knitting term (as far as I know). It sounds as though it's a special technique used for a particular pattern which should be described in the list of stitches/techniques used for that pattern. I'll guess that it means to wrap the yarn around the needle twice to make a big loop. perhaps to allow several increases in the same stitch in the next row. I'm fairly sure that many years ago when I was knitting lace from Italian patterns they used a wrap stitch when you take the yarn and wrap it horizontally many times around, say, the next 7 or so stitches, before knitting into them. This was used to make the stamens in a flower and was very frustrating to do. I ended up having to use a very fine crochet hook to get the yarn through them all. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thoughts on Hitches
Dear Friends, I've been thinking about the half hitch on my bobbins as I used them today and trying to figure out why it held so well and when in fact it does slip. I have come to the conclusion that as I make lace, I simply pick the bobbins up and put them down. However, when I make a tally, it is then that the bobbin is likely to actually roll a bit in my hand and that is when the hitch is likely to let extra thread out - particularly the left hand bobbin of the 4. So perhaps you could think about this tomorrow as you make lace and see whether your bobbins are simply going up and down, or whether you are rotating them a little each time you pick them up, and if you think yours are rotating is that when your hitches are not holding so well. I'd bee most interested in your thoughts. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] hitches
Dear Friends, I have had a very busy week accompanying choirs at our local Eisteddfod, but it's over now. So tomorrow I shall endeavour to analyze the hitch I use on my bobbins. It's definitely only a half hitch and it goes on the thread - not the neck. I nearly always use Pipers 2/20 silk and my single half hitch holds beautifully. For those in the know, it's the first half of a clove hitch, which I learned in the late 50s in the Cubs. David in Ballarat Using Pipers 20/2 for my first steps in Chantilly with the tutorial DVD by Lia Baumeister, I also had problems at first with the slippery thread. But since starting putting triple hitches on the bobbins, it doesn't slip any more, but can still be unwinded nicely. For very thin cotton I also use a double hitch. I always make the hitch at the free top of the bobbin, not on the already winded thread. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hitches
Dear Alison, I still haven't got round to analyzing my hitch yet. However, I do know from various students I've had, that if you'[ve wound your bobbins the wrong way, the hitch will not hold at all. Now, I'm only assuming that I wind my bobbins the same way as everyone else, but to check, if I point the head of the bobbin towards me then the thread goes round clockwise. I'll try and get onto my hitch tomorrow David in Ballarat All the talk about hitches on bobbins reminded me of when I was teaching my daughter and some of her friends to make lace some years ago. I discovered that one of the girls always wound her bobbins in the opposite way to me and the others (winding towards herself, rather than away). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] You there Barbara?
Dear Barbara, Haven't heard from you in months. It's ample time for some more photos of my Toender lace to go on the website as I've now reached the 3/4 way mark. Seem to have lost your email address in a mailbox crash. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] MORE Childhood Rhymes Chants
Joy Malvary, This is getting really intriguing. For while I have never heard of either of your rhymes, the Australian version is obviously somehow a derivation. Ours went:- Ask your mother for sixpence To see the big giraffe With pimples on his whiskers, And pimples on his sK you mother for sixpence etc. That was the dirtiest joke I knew at Primary School :) - learned a few more later one David in Ballarat Oh, ASK your mother for fifty cents to see the elephant climb the fence the higher he climbs the more you can see of his stonishing powers! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Not lace (but it could be) - help needed
At 01:13 AM 17/08/2007, Jean Nathan wrote: Sorry this isn't about lace, but it could be if I make lace on my sewingmachine. :-D Does anyone own a Husqvarna Lily 550, who would be willing to photocopy the manual for me? Naturally I'd pay any costs involved. I've searched the web, but can't find one specific to this model. I've acquired a machine, but although it has the instruction video for it (which I've transferred to DVD), the manual that came with it is a general 400/500, and the 550 has a lot more buttons on the front than are described in the book. I can work out how to program it or watch the video/DVD each time I need to do something I haven't done before, but I'd rather have the proper instructions in printed form. Gosh Jean - and I'm still using a Singer treadle !! :) David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
Dear Clay, But considering how many people are collecting old bobbins, and how many old lacemakers existed 150 years ago... it doesn't take a giant leap to question whether all of these antiques are really so I fully agree with all you've written, expect perhaps for the above quote. I would have, that is until last week when I finished reading a wonderful book called Thomas Lester, his Lace and the East Midlands Industry 1820 - 1905 by Anne Buck, 1981 1982 ISBN 0 903585 09 X. Perhaps you have it too. In that book the author has gone to the trouble to check the numbers of people who offered lacemaker as their occupation in the various censuses petitions of the UK in the 19th century. Here are the statistics as she quoted them:- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire Northamptonshire- 1881 - 12,480 - 1871 - 20,587 - 1861 - 23,450 - 1851 - 26,670 (5,725 under 15 yrs of age) - 1830 - petition of lace-manufacturers - 150,000 - 1815 - over 150,000 Now, you will recall that it was about 1820 that the machine lace industry became firmly entrenched and began to have a significant effect on the numbers of lace-makers, as evidenced by the above figures. However, IF there were around 150,000 lace-makers in 1815 working point ground, it would not seem unreasonable to me that each would own at least 100 bobbins, giving us 15,000,000 antique bobbins for which to keep out an eye on Ebay :) Even if only half have survived, that's still ample for the numbers collecting them today, without forgers ever having to go to all that trouble. Just thoughts David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
Laurie, I don't know if others are having the same trouble as me, but all emails to you are bouncing. That's why6 I have to write to you care of Arachne. Please tell us if we need to alter your email address in order to reply David in Ballarat I have bought dozens of bobbins from this seller and she is a wonderful dealer who always says that she relies on Springett's book in the description of each bobbin. I have no complaints about her whatsoever. David in Ballarat There is a nice bone bobbin on ebay 220138516687 which is attributed to maker David Haskins. The seller has several other bobbins up for sale attributed to specific old makers. I just wrote to her asking how she could be so sure of the maker, and she said that she's relying on the Springett book Success to the Lace Pillow. An excellent work, and I'm sure the Springetts have done their work very well. I haven't looked in detail at their description, but I'm sure the seller has. But I have a larger question. Bobbins aren't signed and she seems to be guessing that this is a Haskins bobbin based on the Springett book. Shouldn't this item, and similar ones, be marked as 'in the style of Haskins', with the Springett book given as a reference? Or something like that? It may be a perfect attribution for all I know, but then again it might be someone copying Haskins or a modern reproduction - fakers can be extremely clever. Without a more specific provinance, I don't see how this attribution can be listed. I'd like opinions before writing to her again, or maybe even to Ebay officials. This isn't the first seller that I have seen do this. Thanks, Laurie - - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
Dear Susie All, Thanks for that information. Yes it would seem there should be plenty of old bobbins and I wonder how many of those are used on lace pillows today? Nothing could be prettier than a tool that has survived the ages...what stories they could tell. Exactly, And thanks to Ebay I now have enough antique bobbins, which I'm sure are genuine, to set up a pillow in point ground using them alone. Apart from the fact that it looks stunning, the stories just eke out of it as fast as the lace. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
Dear Clay, Yes, your figures are compelling... but consider also that some of those lacemakers were making shoelaces! Now that's something I seriously doubt, for at that time, most shoes and boots were fastened with hooks and buttons (some of which ended up on spangles!! :) Remember that lots and lots of wonderful old things are chucked into the trash each year when people die and their heirs are overwhelmed with disposing of the detritus of a someone else's life. And we have to take into account that the bone bobbins were the prized items... mostly, people worked with wooden bobbins, which are also plentiful. So I'm still skeptical when I see so many antique bone bobbins on the market. And certainly lots of them are genuine... but some may not be. Fair enough, but I'm not. David - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Bobbin maker attribution on Ebay
Laurie, I have bought dozens of bobbins from this seller and she is a wonderful dealer who always says that she relies on Springett's book in the description of each bobbin. I have no complaints about her whatsoever. David in Ballarat There is a nice bone bobbin on ebay 220138516687 which is attributed to maker David Haskins. The seller has several other bobbins up for sale attributed to specific old makers. I just wrote to her asking how she could be so sure of the maker, and she said that she's relying on the Springett book Success to the Lace Pillow. An excellent work, and I'm sure the Springetts have done their work very well. I haven't looked in detail at their description, but I'm sure the seller has. But I have a larger question. Bobbins aren't signed and she seems to be guessing that this is a Haskins bobbin based on the Springett book. Shouldn't this item, and similar ones, be marked as 'in the style of Haskins', with the Springett book given as a reference? Or something like that? It may be a perfect attribution for all I know, but then again it might be someone copying Haskins or a modern reproduction - fakers can be extremely clever. Without a more specific provinance, I don't see how this attribution can be listed. I'd like opinions before writing to her again, or maybe even to Ebay officials. This isn't the first seller that I have seen do this. Thanks, Laurie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date: 11/08/2007 2:29 PM - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] MORE Childhood Rhymes Chants
Heather, No one has mentioned one I remember from my childhood (late 60's). This was a 'clapping' song - two girls faced one another and clapped their hands together, crossing arms etc in a pattern. The verse was: Miss Mary Mack, Mack Mack, Had silver buttons all down her back, back, back I do recall such games (and their were many) but not that rhyme at all Sorry David To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Can anyone identify this lace?
Dear Devon, On my Campaign for Modern Lace Site at the Arachne Webshots, _http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK_ (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/244348757BRJzVK) Without a very close look it was hard to tell. My first thought was needle lace appliqued on to net. But then it occurred to me that it could even be a modernized form of the Irish Carrickmacross where organdie is appliqued onto tulle. Although these pieces don't have the characteristic edging or he embroidered poppets. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes Chants
Tamara, Taffy was a welsh man, I took the piece of beef, And threw it at his head. That would most probably be a chant for a ball game I reckon. Why do you reckon so? Mainly because we did have numerous rhymes for ball games where the ball was thrown AT someone on the last word of the ditty. I shall gift the emroidered handkerchief to *you*! It was a select the next it game, with everyone standing around in a circle singing the chant, while the thrower walked inside the circle, stopping for the next it, when the song was over. And then the routine started over again. The trick was to time your walking speed so as to end in front of someone you liked -- and were willing to kiss, after dropping the hankie at his/her feet :) I found this fascinating, for the game you describe is virtually the same as what we knew as Drop the hanky and I'm sure we had a chant for that too, but it wasn't yours and I can't for the life of me remember it now. I don't know whether Candida's rhyme was ever supposed to *mean* anything -- most of those things seemed to care mostly about rhyme and rhythm and only superficially about making sense -- but I'd bet it was written by an Englishman, not a Welshman... There's nothing more uplifting than a bit of neighbourly love :) I'd say you're pretty spot-on there. David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes Chants
Dear Jane, I wrote a letter to my love And on the way I dropped it Somebody must have picked it up And put it in their pocket Thief, thief, drop it, Thief, thief, drop it... Thanks for that - exactly the same in Australia in the 50s. Anyone remember a skipping rope chant which went:- Andy Pandy sugary candy French almond raisin rock. I can even remember how to do that one Another favourite was:- Wash the dishes, dry the dishes, turn the dishes over - bit like oranges and lemons game David in Ballarat To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
