Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Who is moderating India Mailing list ?
Hi Viswa, Adding to HPN's mail 3. Why should mails go selectively passed and selectively discarded? It is set to selectively pass only for *new members*. This is because of high SPAs, mostly trollish in nature. Unfortunately, this setting also applies when people send from their other email addresses (like chapter email id / unsubscribed other email ids) 4. How come very stale mail messages come after almost a month, just when they could significantly be more relevant (or more damaging a particular positive cause) with a changed /new scenario? Some (or many) messages that were cleared today actually were rightfully put on hold (either they are advertisements, troll mails, off topic mails). But since it was not discarded and there were tonnes of such mails, I did not look into each and just cleared all of them assuming good faith, just by seeing name and email id of sender. Please be assured, no one has any interest in moderating mails to support / damage any cause. Can we then get a report or log of activities? I dont think mailman offers any such provisions. A background on moderation policy on this list, thread from 2011[1], after which myself and Prashanth NS were added as moderators (to have someone not from the chapter). FWIW, I was a chapter member only briefly and never renewed my membership, so I don't have any interest in Chapter (or CIS A2K for that matter). FWIW, an attempt was made to have agreed mailing list guidelines, but there was no clousure and this is not enforced. The page Mailinglist Guidelines on chapter wiki. The problem with rules / guidelines and enforcement is people would again complain of being strict, which is why this list is largely unmoderated. What is criteria for selection of moderators? How long should one be as moderator? Anyone who can answer mails, understands mailing list etiquettes, has time can be one. Few of the community members trusted us(existing mods), hence we are mods. If the community doesn't trust we cease to be, just let us know. [1] http://markmail.org/thread/byq2kbzwax7xqave [2] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/MailingList_Guidelines On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:54 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com wrote: With sufficient evidences, as apparent as they seem to be, I must introduce this issue to you all. The India mailing list is controlled by a few people, of whom no one ever was thinking evil. However, it is time to review and see who really controls this mail list! I request all recipients to wake up and ask the same questions: 1. Who all control the mail list and moderate it? 2. What has been the criteria of their selection? How long they should remain as administrators to the list? 3. Why should mails go selectively passed and selectively discarded? 4. How come very stale mail messages come after almost a month, just when they could significantly be more relevant (or more damaging a particular positive cause) with a changed /new scenario? I propose few more 'acceptable' members are added to the admin list. And even to get rid of people whom the general community does not probably trust any more. We don't want any more vicious infestations to damage the 'India' context of Wikimedia cause. -Viswam ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Upcoming Language Engineering Meetup / Wikimedia Tech talk @ Bangalore
Reminder for language engineering meetup tomorrow. Please attend and get to know more on language engineering tools. There is also a tech talk by Erik Moeller on Monday @ CIS. http://cis-india.org/openness/events/wikipedia-state-of-tech-talk-by-erik-moeller -- Forwarded message -- From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com Date: Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:41 AM Subject: Wikimedia Language Engineering Meetups in Pune and Bangalore To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Mailing list for Wikimedians / Wikipedians in Bangalore, India wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org, Mailing list for Wikimedians / Wikipedians in Pune, India wikimedia-in-p...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello all, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team[1] invites Indic wikipedians and people who are interested in language support for their wikiprojects for a meetup with us. Language teams are Wikimedia community members with a common interest (compare with SIG) to help improve, provide feedback and help educate our language communities of readers and editors about Wikimedia software enhancements and tools built by the langauge engineering team. This meetup is to get a face-to-face introduction to language technologies available on the Wikimedia websites and learn more about how to best use these. We will be in Pune[2] on the 4th November and Bangalore[3] on 11th November. (For a change a Bangalore Wikimeetup can be held in a different part of city :)). Please sign up on the page, looking forward to meeting you and working together on improving language support :) [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pune_Language_Engineering_Meetup_November_2012 [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_Language_Engineering_Meetup_November_2012 -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-blr] Wikimedia Language Engineering Meetups in Pune and Bangalore
Hi HPN, On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.comwrote: This is excellent. I have registered for it. Look forward to meeting you all. What are the venues being considered? Thanks for your interest! The Bangalore meetup is at IIMB on Nov 11, where the DevCamp will also be in parallel and at Pune it will be at SICSR on Nov 4. More details mentioned in the pages Please do sign up on the meetup pages. [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pune_Language_Engineering_Meetup_November_2012 [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_Language_Engineering_Meetup_November_2012 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Save-the-date: Bangalore DevCamp 9-11 November
Registration is up https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_DevCamp_November_2012. Please sign up and feel free to pass the word around. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_DevCamp_November_2012 I'll send an update as soon as we have the registration stuff set up. But I wanted to ask you to save the date. Join the Wikipedia development community in Bangalore. Wikimedia is holding a technical meetup in Bangalore, India at the Indian Institute of Management campus. This DevCamp is a chance to participate in development of Javascript based internationalization and localization tools as well as mobile applications using Phonegap and LAMP technologies, and to work alongside experts. Software engineers, UX/UI designers, and translators are welcome! Developers of all backgrounds especially with a focus on browser and mobile technologies are welcome at Wikimedia DevCamps. Prior experience with the MediaWiki software is not required. Translators with a linguistic background who can help improve language support for Wikimedia technology projects are also needed. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil wikipedia marathon - Sep 30 2012
+ 9 :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Shrinivasan T Subject: Tamil wikipedia marathon - Sep 30 2012 Tamil wikipedia completes its 9 years today. To celebrate this, Tamil wikipedia team calls for a wiki edit marathon today. you all are invited to add new content to Tamil wikipedia together. adding a small page about any near place to you is also a great start to contribute. check the following to know more details in Tamil Wiki Marathon - http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/27uy Tamil Wikipedia completes 9 years.Why don't you make your first edit now? - http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/ae ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards Srikanth.L http://j.mp/SrikanthL ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] #GOIBlocks list contains Wikipedia too
Hello, As feared a few months back[0], censorship has begun[1]. This list[2] released in article mentions 3 instances of Wikipedia, 2 mentions about Persecution_of_Muslims_in_Burma[3] which is blocked (but some of us know of many other URL formats to access the page) and other being article on cartoon controversy[4] but like the numerous of errors in the list, this too is erroneous and hence available. This is clearly not a positive development. [0] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-April/007920.html [1] http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/government-blocks-twitter-handles-of-journalists-right-wing-groups--here-is-the-proof/articleshow/15617834.cms [2] http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=15618032 [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims_in_Burma [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Srikanth Lakshmanan to the i18n engineering team
Thank you Sir! On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Arun, right on! Srikanth, welcome to your new hunting ground! Ashwin On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Thank you all for you wishes. I look forward to working with you and making your language wikipedia experience better. Please feel free to poke me on any bugs you file for your wiki projects. To avoid people complaining of bombing inbox, please send your wishes sent to me excluding the list. :) Nonsense! complaints are an integral part of these lists. Welcome to the localisation team :D On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Srikanth! -- Forwarded message -- From: Alolita Sharma asha...@wikimedia.org Check out some of his work on Tamil scripts and consonants at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Script#Consonants_of_Modern_Tamil Correction, my blogposts were based on it :) On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Logic. I hope, now the Tamil wikipedia will not have any glitches. Cheers All languages have quite some distance to reach that milestone, am sure together we can reach there soon :) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS.in - call for proposals open till 8 July
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Is anyone planning a submission? A stall? Will we have a presence at FOSS.IN? Yuvipanda has made a submission(and waiting for CfP confirmation) on Mediawiki API and we might use the hackerspace as well if his talk gets accepted. Shall keep the list posted. I am not sure if anyone is planning on a generic Wikipedia stall @ FOSS.IN -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Experimenting with Virtual Outreach
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Folks, I was thinking of experimenting conducting online outreach. I want to try out if we can do an effective outreach event using a google+ (video) hangout. Virtual outreach has a number of advantages: * No investment of time/effort/cost in travel * Personal attention to each participant (because of individual video/screenshare facilities.) * No complications of no laptops available at the venue or a limit on creating user names from a single IP address during the event * Lower dependency on institutions/college fests to organize an event for us. * Not limited by physical presence. Sitting in Kanyakumari, one can conduct outreach for interested folks in Kashmir! This is just a trial to test if online outreach is effective, doable and manageable. This could be one of the ways forward! (Potentially, we could have more community members doing more events with a more diverse audience.) Hello all, Adding to the list of advantages, the entire session gets automatically recorded and is available on Youtube. (So 1 good session will reach much more people than participants) I recently participated on one such hangout and happened to talk about Tamil Wiki projects, Translatewiki etc(though as stop gap arrangement) and can be watched here[1]. It would be great if this mode of outreach can be tried again. IIRC the first one did not go all well due to connectivity issues, but we can always try again! [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=1uwmGhQFgH4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwmGhQFgH4 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on India Education Pilot
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Just to update this list, simple wiki community has opposed this. The current votes stand at 6 opposes and 3 support with 1 editor waiting to confirm his vote. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_talk#Agreement I didn't have enough time to go through it, but I certainly felt odd looking / hearing at some of those comments from few. The blood boiling and here to prove a point ones. More than the proposal itself, these makes me very uncomfortable. If you are contributing to Wikipedia to prove a point to someone else, I can only feel sorry for you. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Club @ British Council
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Nitika Tandon ntan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Indeed participants will be editing articles relating to Indian context like Indian culture, history, arts etc I just hope you meant to say participants will be editing articles *they are interested in* and which may / may not happen to be articles relating to Indian context like Indian culture, history, arts etc. People shouldn't be told to edit on subjects (None of the wikipedians were not told to edit on some topic, they just found it themselves). People must chose what they are interested in themselves and edit. This was also partly a reason why IEP failed, because not everyone was interested in data structures! -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT: Open Content and Open Educational Resources in India
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Assuming a lower threshold as well, that it's just available for free and no necessarily the other elements, are there resources that come to mind? University of Chicago's digital dictionaries of South Asia[1] has many dictionaries which are CC licensed (licenses vary per dictionary source). Tamil Wiktionary uses the University of Madras' Tamil lexicon[2] which is under CC as a key reference. We are exploring options to import Tamil lexicon into tawikt, so that they can be worked upon and more importantly end users get these results easily while doing a search from search engine. [1] http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/ [2] http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/tamil-lex/ -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Download as ODT in Indic Wikipedia's
Hello all, Most of know the Download as PDF feature is not usable on Indic wikis with Collection Extension due to issues in PDF generation with complex scripts. While we hope this gets fixed, in the meantime, we can provide something that's more usable to users. Aamaachu, a Tamil Wikipedia reader and free software contributor suggested[1] instead of showing Download as PDF (which downloads an unusable PDF), the link could be Download as ODT and people who want to take content offline could atleast read them properly. (MS Office 2007 supports opening ODT files as well). I had filed a bug[2] for the same and all Tamil Wiki projects now show Download as ODT on the portlet. Please consider filing similar bugs for your Indic Wiki project making the experience more usable. Of Course once complex script rendering in PDF is supported, we can always change / add one more option to list PDF. Thank you. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikita-l/2012-May/000107.html [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37154 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Download as ODT in Indic Wikipedia's
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Most of know the Download as PDF feature is not usable on Indic wikis with Collection Extension due to issues in PDF generation with complex scripts. Can you point out the issues as well please ? The bug[1] which requires pypdflib[2] (or similar pdf generation library which Collection extension could use) to be stable / working for Indic languages which has complex scripts. A question that would be relevant is whether any device accessing the Indic Wikipedia (desktop [own/shared], laptop, mobile) will have the adequate means to handle, display and render ODT formats. You got a valid point there. Having a PDF option by which one can open but not use it provides same value as having an ODT which one cannot open. Generated PDF has glyphs rendered in parts and/or wrong order, one cannot use them. On the other hand, even if someone does not have capability to view ODT(let's say people with MS-Office 2000), some people will try to atleast google ODT, know about ODT,LibreOffice or programs which can open ODT and the interested ones will download and use it. On a tangential note, it will be interesting to know the click stats of links on Collection extension to see how many people use Download as links. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28206 [2] https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pypdflib -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam - is your language supported well?
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hello, A few months ago the Localization team of the Wikimedia Foundation enabled the Narayam extension in some projects in Indic languages and also in the Incubator. We know that in projects in some languages it is actively used. Some projects, for example Telugu, Kannada, Marathi and Bengali, also asked for fixes. In some languages Narayam is enabled only in Wikipedia. Other Wikiprojects continue to use old javascript solution / don't have any typing tool at all. Can you please make sure Narayam is available on *all* existing wikiprojects of your language, so that it could give consistent experience to contributors. It just a bug away[1] [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimediacomponent=Extension%20setup -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Blog post]: Numerals in Indic languages
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Noopur Raval nra...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey folks, Shiju has published an interesting post on numerals in an Indic context. It's a really fascinating overview - including how numerals are depicted across Indic languages, their use across languages, the policies adopted by the various Indic communities, the need for some community decisions to take things forward, a bit of Shiju's personal grumble on the fact that Hindi film posters are no longer in Hindi :-) and a picture of a Northern Railways bed sheet! Intrigued? Read more on either on metahttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Indic_Languages/Numerals_in_Indic_Languages__Indic_language_Wikipedias and or the Chapter bloghttp://blog.wikimedia.in/2012/06/01/numerals-in-indic-languages-indic-wikipedias-2/ . [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Indic_Languages/Numerals_in_Indic_Languages_%26_Indic_language_Wikipedias [2] http://blog.wikimedia.in/2012/06/01/numerals-in-indic-languages-indic-wikipedias-2/ Good read. Thanks for the post Shiju. Coincidentally I came across Kaplan's blog[1] about digits and numbers just yesterday. It was a good read, also throws in implementation (technical + usage) related issues. I would also like to ask Shiju if Wikipedia community has the right to adopt the say its own numeral standard without considering the fact that whole world does not use it. Can Wikipedia be used as medium to introduce language changes or should the task be just documenting things? I ask this because we are also having similar debates about language style[2] (not to be confused with grantha, which is planned to be discussed later as grantha will have similar factors + additional factors for consideration.) and if a Wikipedia can introduce a new language style(not sentence constructs, but new forms of words[again not technical words, but new words for nouns which are in popular use] on its own without an external guideline and there are different thoughts. Thanks! [1] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/01/24/359347.aspx [2] http://tawp.in/r/3n4 -- Regards Srikanth.L PS: May I also please ask you to add a Copyright notice on blog(similar to copied text/images wmf blog) since the same is pasted from meta. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program: Community Building Pilot Update: Fantastic Story from Assam
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: There is a palpable jump in the number of redirects created (which adds to editing activity) by 273% in February 2012 and 609% in March 2012. The number of redirects have increased from 393 in January 2012 to ~10,000 in March 2012. Each wiki has its own policy on redirects(I am not sure if as has one). Redirects as a percentage of article will be generally more for Indic wikipedia's because of multiple factors.They include nature of topics they cover, a large number of cities / towns in India has multiple names for a single place. Different people spell the same thing(proper nouns) differently requiring more redirects. Malayalam, Odia communities have decided to create English redirects for articles to have usable URLs, so obviously their redirect count will be more than their article count but that isn't a bad thing. Creating redirects is necessary, not a bad thing to do, but am not sure if as folks are overdoing it considering 10k redirects for 1k articles. But am not sure how many dialects as has, what other factors made them to create that many redirects. I would like to hear from them. But if someone is playing number game (I hope not), it needs to stopped. We have had many instances of people playing number game on Indic wikis in the past and how it has negatively impacted / not achieved anything. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/TablesDatabaseRedirects.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Social Media Pilot
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: If the route through Social media is working, why not try it? During Tamil Wiki media contest, we found Facebook very useful for reaching online photographers community. During TWMC, engagement was built (liking and commenting) and people started contributing themselves(some posted on FB, later some moved to commons) after it reached a mass. Though it could have attracted some due to the $$ tag it had, I don't think everyone contributed due to it. People wanted their work to be seen by many and hence contributed photos. But yeah facebook gives huge numbers in terms of getting eyeballs / pageviews and spreading the word. I would soon be having *some* statistics of pageviews coming from facebook / twitter into Tamil wikipedia pages through tawp.in(Shorturl service Yuvi runs for Tamil Wikipedia whose logs I have access to), quick look already gave some surprising data. So we can't write off facebook / social media that easily but using them for teaching how to edit is completely different thing. I would look at numbers here in slightly different way. 400 people are part of a group. Facebook allows anyone in group to add anyone else into the group even without the person's acceptance. So this is kind of sending 400 invitations out for an outreach. On most of the messages many people in the group were prodded for attention (@mentioned) and on average 8% have replied and participated (made initial edits). This is akin to conducting the actual outreach. Rentention is something that needs to be seen after a few months if these users continue to edit voluntarily (having attended an outreach event). In all these, I probably don't like the prodding part (in real world I would compare it to shouting Wikipedia Wikipedia (like tea,coffee) outside the Wikipedia stall), *after most people know* that there is a stall (group). But am not sure how else it would be possible to attract attention of people on facebook (which is meant for connecting with friends primarily). On the challanges part, I would like to know, how it can be scaled beyond a person's network. Since people don't join the group by self, amount of people who can be reached is low and adding random people from friend's list into group isn't going to help. Theo, To be fair to OP(Original Poster) , I see the mail only as an update and didn't seem like any boasting was done. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] on WCI, the report, and more
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: *How can we ensure that such reports represent the perspectives of many of those involved in such events, rather than a singular perspective? One way to do so is to involve all 'teams' in writing their parts of the report - eg Scholarships, Programs etc, getting internal consensus within each team, and then providing it to the core team. I agree with you on involving 'teams' in writing what went right / wrong in their respective tasks. There is no need for internal consensus and all that process, there is a talk page[1] and it has edit button on it, people can sign with 4 ~ after their comments. :) I have a huge list of comments on how programs could have been better or communications for that matter (there was no formal communication team IIRC, or people who worked on communicating to delegates, speakers, others). I am going to use the talk and but I am not sure how soon I can do that, would anyway be missing few things since its already 6 months. I urge anyone else involved in other tasks to do the same for the sake documenting at a granular level of what happened @ WCI in their perspective and how *they* could done it better. (Putting unpleasant things is not wrong, but remember to point self as well in a fair self retrospection). *How can we retain the sense of fun that is so much part of - and integral to - a volunteer movement? What happened in WCI was a severe burnout. I can't count more than few people who worked, but there were truckload of armchair advisers. It can't be fun if that's the case. Looking back, chapter's decision to have a bidding process would have made everyone aware where there are gaps in capabilities to an extent, but just because people had Jimmy's dates it had to be organized in Mumbai looks like a joke to me and I don't fully agree to It is important to acknowledge at this point that the entire Indian Wikipedia Community backed and rallied behind the Mumbai and Pune communities since the discussion happened on a closed list of few people out there. But am only hoping next WCI will be not held for the sake of hosting it, but after careful review of what happened in WCI 11 and making honest efforts in fixing a lot of things / procedures (including finances /regulations /all drama) and making sure the host city has *enough* volunteers who are committed to hold an event of the scale. [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:WM_IN/WikiConference_India_2011/Report -- Regards Srikanth.L PS : I completely liked the random order of acknowledgements in the report ;) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Introducing: Designs for the Universal Language Selector
Since there are many people here who know 3 or more languages and use multiple language wikis, see if you could help :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Introducing: Designs for the Universal Language Selector To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org, des...@lists.wikimedia.org Today we are announcing the designs and interactive prototypes for the Universal Language Selector. Wikipedia is available in 285 languages, and MediaWiki has been translated to almost 400 languages. Several language-related tools are available to support the consumption and contribution of content in different languages. These tools allow users to type text in a language for which their keyboard is not prepared, download appropriate web fonts to display non-Latin scripts properly and choose the language of their user interface. The Universal Language Selector is a tool that will allow users to select a language and configure its support in an easy way. When the number of languages in a list approaches 400, ease of use becomes both a need and a challenge. The design process for the selector started with the analysis of user needs and the definition of representative scenarios to support. Then, we explored different ideas in the form of sketches and wire-frames through different iterations. Finally, we have created interactive prototypes to test whether our ideas work with real users, and we want to share them with the community. More information about the designs has been recently published at the Wikimedia Foundation blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/05/21/introducing-designs-for-the-universal-language-selector/ We are announcing the availability of the Universal Language Selector designs to gather feedback on the proposed solutions, and ask for volunteers to test our prototypes. If you want more details on the designs or want to have ideas for improvement or criticism on the designs, feel free to do so on the talk page for the Universal Language Selector: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector#Proposed_design If you are a speaker of Arabic, Dutch, Hebrew or Hindi, you can also request participation for the usability tests at http://goo.gl/QpWmu In less than 30 minutes you can participate in the tests and experience whether our proposed solutions work in practice for your specific language community and context. Pau -- Pau Giner Interaction Designer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Telugu Wiktionary launches WOTD
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: We need more of interactions offline and online among the various Wiki language communities (technical/content) to strengthen our projects serving information needs of people. While it helped to have an offline conversation in this case, it might not be always possible for everyone to have these. In case any technical help is required, please feel free to post these places[1][2] [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Vodafone advertisement -- Internet is fun, Wikipedia
Hello, I just saw an ad mentioning Wikipedia on the Internet is fun series of advertisement aired during IPL. It would probably be available soon at their youtube channel[1]. Are we missing any announcement or its just that Vodafone is using Wikipedia in their advertisements. Nonetheless, good branding on television :) [1] http://www.youtube.com/user/vodafoneipl/videos -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mediawiki version upgrade
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, Are you really in senses? If so, why don't you take my case? Mark/All, Please close this bug and don't do anything to resolve the issue, as someone in this world thinks its my personal problem. Please that smartest lot and close the bug. Dhaval, As you would have got the update by now, a fix was made and bug is on its way to closure (with a resolution.) post deployment[1]. There is no need to take offense on Arun's comment. It probably came because he was bothered more about the lack of choice at certain places than the technicalities given that lot of us value freedom and choice. Nonetheless, IE7 should still be supported as it still gets 4% (861 M) of all page requests[2] to Wikimedia. There would be hundreds of people who might have the choice but prefer to use IE7 as their choice for reasons up to them and bugs are welcome on IE7 as long as its still in use and supported by Microsoft. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36275#c10 [2] http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: IRC office hours with Kul and Amit, about Wikipedia Zero and other mobile work
For those who are interested on mobile partnerships. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:31 AM Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: IRC office hours with Kul and Amit, about Wikipedia Zero and other mobile work To: mobile-l mobil...@lists.wikimedia.org FYI... -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM Subject: IRC office hours with Kul and Amit, about Wikipedia Zero and other mobile work To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi everyone, On May 17th at 16:00 UTC, Kul Wadhwa (Head of Mobile and Business Development) and Amit Kapoor (Senior Manager, Mobile Partnerships) will be in #wikimedia-office to talk about Wikipedia Zero,[1] as well as the other initiatives underway on the mobile team. As usual, details and time conversion links are on Meta.[2] We have scheduled this at a time that we hope works for Wikimedians from Africa and Asia, since it was Abbasjnr's idea to have a mobile office hours. (Thanks Abbas!) 1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Mobile-l mailing list mobil...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Introduction - Arun
Congrats Arun! (Not that he needs introduction on this list) -- Forwarded message -- From: Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:46 PM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Introduction - Arun To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi everyone, I wanted to introduce myself to the community and the WMF team, I'm Arun Ganesh (user:planemad)[1a] from Bangalore, India and have joined as contractor for the foundation's L10n team[1b] as an Interaction designer along with Pau to improve the user experience of language tools and features. I have been a longtime contributer to both commons[2] and the openstreetmap[3] project and got involved with foundation work during the Mumbai and Pune hackathons recently[4][5][6] where I proposed some of the first ideas for the Universal Language Selector widget with Brandon, with which we want to make language selection for anyone easy peasy. Apart from that, I love cartography and maps [7], which would explain my map contributions and the occasional headline for wikipedia [8], use only public transport[9] and traveling with my pocket camera[10]. Its feels great to have this opportunity to work more seriously on a project which has been an important part of my life. I'm new here, I wont claim to know much, but I hope to make a difference in whichever way possible. I also look forward to interacting more closely and learning from the rest of the designers - Brandon, Heather and Pau to do the wonderful things that designers like to do .So keep the usability bugs coming :) -Arun [1a] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad [1b] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localization_team [2] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wiki=commons.wikimedia.orgimg_user_text=Planemad [3] http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?zoom=4lat=21.96627lon=81.68268layers=B0Tu=PlaneMad [4] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector#Arun_Ganesh.27s_Original_design [5] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mobile_language_selector.pdf [6] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:L10n-ux-Universal_Language_Selector-Wireframes1.pdf [7] http://bit.ly/timesofindia-osm [8] http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jul/30/information-beautiful-india-cameron [9] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article182223.ece [10] http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1663025,00.html ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC announcement of students for 2012
Congrats to all folks who got through, specially to Ankur Anand, Akshay Chugh, Ashish Dubey, Suhas HS, Nischay Nahata who are the 5 Indians to get through under WMF. -- Forwarded message -- From: Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 00:58 Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC announcement of students for 2012 To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/23/wmf-selects-9-students-for-gsoc/ Ankur Anand, integrating Flickr upload and geolocation into UploadWizard. Mentor: WMF engineer Ryan Kaldari Harry Burt, TranslateSvg (Bringing the translation revolution to Wikimedia Commons). Mentor: WMF engineer Max Semenik Akshay Chugh, making a convention/conference extension for MediaWiki. Mentor: volunteer developer Jure Kajzer Ashish Dubey, realtime collaboration in the upcoming visual editor. Mentor: WMF engineer Trevor Parscal Suhas HS, improvements to the OpenStackManager extension. Mentor: WMF engineer Ryan Lane Nischay Nahata, optimizing the performance of the Semantic MediaWiki extension. Mentor: volunteer developer Markus Krötzsch Aaron Pramana, watchlist grouping and workflow improvements. Mentor: volunteer developer Alex Emsenhuber Robin Pepermans, working on Incubator improvements and language support, Mentor: WMF engineer Niklas Laxström Platonides, a desktop application for mass-uploading files to Wikimedia Commons. Mentor: me (as project manager and mentor of record; Platonides will consult with technical experts) Congratulations. You are the most promising students among the 63 who applied, so we chose you to participate in our Google Summer of Code program. Please consult your mentor to discuss what you ought to do during the community bonding period (now till May 21). Students whom we did not accept: please don't despair. As you can see, you had a lot of very strong competition, and we only had nine slots. We encourage you to keep learning about open source, use our IRC channels and mailing lists, and even work on your projects as volunteers! Most of us got into this hobby without GSoC, and you can too. :-) -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : IANS : 60% Wikipedia entries contain factual errors
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 14:32, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: IANS : 60% Wikipedia entries contain factual errors Wonderful report I have ever seen. 6th grade kid would do far better in what is called comprehending the original statement. The irony is it talks of factual errors. In fact, 60% of respondents who were familiar with their company or recent client’s Wikipedia article indicated that it article contained factual errors. -- The actual statement from page 20 of the research report[1]. Who were the people who responded? PR professionals, yes people who try to promote a brand / entity for money. End of the day its about Paid editing. [1] http://www.prsa.org/Intelligence/PRJournal/Documents/2012DiStaso.pdf -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Fwd:Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 17:52 Subject: [ilugb] Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship The Government notified on April 13, 2011 the Information Technology (Intermediaries guidelines) Rules, 2011 prescribing guidelines to be observed by the intermediaries. The rules were issued in exercise of the powers conferred by clause (zg) of subsection (2) of section 87 read with sub-section (2) of section 79 of the Information Technology Act, 2000 (Act 21 of 2000). The provisions of the new rules are unconstitutional as they affect the right to freedom of speech and expression as well as right to privacy of citizens, are arbitrary being violative of Art. 14 of the Constitution of India and are ultra vires of the parent act. SFLC.in [1] has come out with an ebook, Legal analysis of IT(Intermediaries guidelines)Rules 2011 [2] explaining the impact of the guidelines which the government has come up with. FSMK[3] with support of other organizations is planning a national level campaign against this law which will be discussed in parliament on the second half of the budget session which starts from April 24th. Hence we have chosen 21st April for the nation wide campaign against the law. Content regarding the campaign and the issue is being updated, [4]. Please let me know if the organizations that you are associated with can support us for this campaign. We are maintaining a list of all organization who are supporting us [5]. Also please support this campaign by sharing the link of the website[4] and also by signing the petition [6]. We are also looking for any creative posters/ideas related to this topic which will help us in spreading the word. Please feel free to share such content with us so that we can update it in the website. [1] - http://softwarefreedom.in/ [2] - [pdf] http://softwarefreedom.in/attachments/article/125/LegalAnalysis_ItIntermediaryRules.pdf [3] - http://fsmk.org [4] - http://friendsofinternet.wikispaces.com/ [5] - http://friendsofinternet.wikispaces.com/List+of+friends+of+internet [6] - http://www.change.org/petitions/mps-of-india-support-the-annulment-motion-to-protect-internet-freedom-stopitrules -- Regards, Vignesh Software Engineer http://2paisasbyviggy.wordpress.com/ http://fsmk.org -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Fwd:Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 16:16, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Not at all OT (unless the rules of this list say otherwise) The reason I put OT was, we(community) haven't taken any stand if these affect us, leave alone the decision should we protested against it. So IMO topic is still OT to the list. This thread can change that state though. Lets forget chapter, IP since they wont be very comfortable to talk in public given their record[1][2] and might not be good idea for them to extend support too. My intention of forwarding the mail was to get a pulse on 2 things. 1. Scrutiny of the act beyond Internet Censorship and more importantly where it conflicts with wikimedia movement's goals/mission.IMO while censorship itself is a good reason to run a protest campaign(geo-located banners if not Anti-SOPA style action). There are many legal experts from the community, I would love to hear their understanding/assessment of impact on this. May be someone could put up a page on meta about this? 2. Are there more people who are interested in this, to take this up on wiki (in form of an RfC?) and would it be a good idea? or staying silent like we have always been used to is a good thing? [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006508.html [2] I couldn't get a link on chapter's / IP stand on Maps issue during WCI, but IIRC both were clearly uncomfortable talking about it. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia to be free on mobiles in Africa, Middle East (SciDev.net)
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 04:22, Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.orgwrote: It would also be cool if we celebrate what people actual do and debate the efficacy based on the results (since all of our work is experimental in nature and unproven at this time) Since we are talking something related to outreach, let me remind the talk[1] is still open and am unaware about the analysis on outreach / metrics, since they haven't been figured out in the discussion. A quick comment on the style of getting community input. While I appreciate IP for trying hard to get sound feedback from community which is good and very important, but sometimes I feel tired by just looking at things they ask for. Just look at the questions here[1][2], community is NOT a group of survey takers who have loads of free time(This has been mentioned somewhere in meta for research as well IIRC). It is quite obvious that they were unanswered(may remain so) because it will turn off most people. Lastly, when we ask for something to be worked upon[3], there is a difference between seeking input and getting the work done. If only I had the time and skill to do what I suggested, I would have proposed an RfC myself, why would I even ask IP to work on it. [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Outreach_Programs#10_Questions [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-March/007734.html [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Community_Building -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-i18n] IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-04-18 16:30 UTC
Forwarding for the benefit of those who are not in mediawiki-i18n list. Topics that will be discussed. Language support; internationalisation of MediaWiki, language support teams, User Interaction and User Interface design for language tools See you there! -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Forwarded message -- From: Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazel...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 18:35 Subject: [Mediawiki-i18n] IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-04-18 16:30 UTC To: Wikimedia Foundation foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org, MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi everyone, I just wanted to give advance notice about IRC office hours with the Localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation. Date: 2012-04-18 (every third Wednesday of the month from now on) Time: 16.30 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available on Meta.[2] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to, I highly recommend the blog posts we are have written since out last office hours in February.[3] Thanks, and we'll talk to you later next week! -- Siebrand Mazeland Product Manager Localisation Wikimedia Foundation 1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours 3. http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-localization/ Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiki Media Contest -- Results
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:35, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:
A detailed report and blog post will be ready by next week
{{Done}}, here[1]
[1]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Tamil_Wikimedians/TamilWiki_Media_Contest/Report
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:22, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, it turned up the following articles for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharani_Kishori (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_of_Karnataka (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropalidia_marginata (B class) Not Good articles at all. From the original mail. It is a simple tool that shows you one B, A, GA or FA article every time you go there. Its Good as in good for reading, not necessarily GA -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Special Characters toolbar - is it useful in your language?
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:46, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Wikimedians in India, Recently i've been making improvements to the enhanced editing toolbar, and especially to its Special Characters functionality. Great! Tamil isn't there in the extension, but I have some feedback / questions. Does this aim to replace on-screen-keyboard? IMHO its highly unfriendly to type a name/anything for that matter using it. Its best suited for the purpose it intended for, i.e Special Characters and should not contain entire char set(at least when Narayam is available, that should predominantly be the input method). It would be suitable to have actual special characters which either don't have key mappings on Narayam / other standard input methods or those which people don't use frequently and hence might not remember. Example, I would like Tamil numerals[1] which lack a way in most input methods to be on this toolbar rather than the entire Tamil char set. I see Telugu, Bengali already have their char set, and Marathi filed a bug[2], but the list of languages / order isn't configurable per project, which means if Marathi gets added tomorrow, they have to scroll down the list and is unlikely to be very usable at least in Marathi projects since few people may scroll down and use it to input. Other than being a first class citizen and being up within the editor, what difference does this have against Mediawiki:Edittools ? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Script#Numerals_and_symbols [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35112 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiki Media Contest -- Results
Hi all, We are happy to announce the results of Tamil Wiki Media Contest[1]. The competition was brutal.(Hence the mild delay in announcing results) Thousands of high quality files were uploaded for the contest. In order to award prizes to maximum no of entries/contestants as possible, we have increased the number of prizes. The files that made it to the final round but didn't win ultimately were very very close to those that actually won (in marks basis). Of those the top 100 can be viewed here[2] A detailed report and blog post will be ready by next week. Thanks for your support. [1] http://tawp.in/r/33y1 [2] http://tawp.in/r/33zx -- Coordinators, TWMC ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Tamil_Wikimedians/TamilWiki_Media_Contest#Team_members_.28optional.29 ) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program: Pilot Designs
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:27, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: The Story Telling and Wikipatrika initiatives that you list here as pilots were efforts undertaken by the Chapter. IIRC Shiju has been doing the Basic Community Building (covering all aspects of work detail mentioned) for years now with very decent success without calling it one. Pilot is trying something new / untested. May be you should call it a program instead of a pilot. An example of Indic pilot which I can give is conflict resolution / increasing awareness of Wiki policies / culture to newer/older community members alike through policy pages and sorting uneasiness between new and old editors which exist in few Indic wikis. This will lead to fewer cases of misuse / abuse of wiki-resources against good interest of community / wikimedia at large.(in effect prevent more cases like the recent RfC on a Hindi Wikipedian) Yes, this is a tough task, there are issues in it, but taking up something like this at least at a smaller level, can be called a pilot, not something that's been proven successful for years now. [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Community_Building -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipatrika: Next Issue
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 14:44, Noopur Raval nra...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear all, I'm writing with regard to Wikipatrika. Great to hear about the revival, shall pitch in some bytes for tamil now and then. Got some requests for you. Here http://This%20should%20go%20on%20India%20and%20Indic%20mailing%20lists%20%28except%20for%20Marathi%20%20Urdu%29%20and%20the%20respective%20village%20pumps%20%28except%20for%20Marathi%20%20Urdu%29%2E%20%20In%20addition,%20the%20mail%20can%20then%20be%20forwarded%20by%20Noopur%20to%20as%20many%20editors%20as%20possible%20%28and%20by%20Shiju%20too%2E%29%20%20I%27m%20writing%20with%20regard%20to%20Wikipatrika%2E%20%20For%20the%20folks%20who%20don%27t%20know,%20this%20is%20the%20community%20newsletter%20which%20has%20come%20out%20twice%20%28in%20September%202010%20%20%20June%202011%29%20%20It%27s%20a%20really%20wonderful%20way%20documenting%20and%20celebrating%20the%20amazing%20work%20done%20by%20so%20many%20community%20members%20across%20so%20many%20communities%20in%20the%20various%20projects%2E%20%20It%20helps%20share%20ideas%20with%20and%20helps%20pick%20up%20ideas%20from%20other%20communities%2E%20%20%20%20I%20think%20Wikipatrika%20is%20something%20that%20could%20be%20more%20frequent%20-%20given%20the%20range%20of%20activities%20across%20communities%20-%20and%20I%27d%20like%20to%20support%20it%2E%20%20In%20this%20regard,%20I%20approached%20all%20the%20editors%20who%20were%20involved%20in%20the%20previous%202%20issues%20to%20ask%20their%20interest%20in%20bringing%20out%20the%20next%20one%20in%20end%20April%20or%20early%20May%20covering%20Jan%20-%20Mar%202012,%20and%20to%20see%20if%20we%20can%20make%20it%20more%20regular%20%28potentially%20every%20quarter%2E%29%20%205%20community%20members%20from%20different%20languages%20have%20already%20offered%20to%20help%2E%20%20Anther%20community%20member%20will%20setup%20a%20template%20that%20all%20languages%20can%20use%20%28on%20the%20chapter%20wiki%29%20%20I%20have%20also%20started%20reaching%20out%20to%20editors%20who%20might%20not%20have%20been%20involved%20before,%20and%20hence%20this%20mail%2E%20%20The%20template%20for%20Wikipatrika%20will%20be%20ready%20only%20by%20April%202nd%20week%2E%20%20In%20the%20meantime,%20can%20I%20ask%20whoever%20is%20interested%20to%20create%20a%20page%20on%20their%20respective%20languages%20wikipedias%20and%20start%20sharing%20stories%20and%20updates%20on%20this%20page%2E%20%20I%27d%20encourage%20everyone%20to%20write%20these%20in%20whatever%20language%20they%20are%20comfortable%20in%20to%20begin%20with%2E%20%20%20%28Once%20the%20template%20is%20set%20up%20on%20Chapter%20Wiki,%20these%20individual%20pages%20could%20then%20be%20posted%20there%2E%29%20%20To%20start%20off,%20you%20could%20start%20with%20the%20following%20sections%20%28which%20I%27m%20illustrating%20using%20the%20Bengali%20page%20from%20a%20previous%20Wikipatrika%29,%20and%20just%20start%20adding%20content%2E%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20General%20overview%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Bengali%20Wikipedia%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Bengali%20Wikisource%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Bengali%20Wiktionary%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Bengali%20Wikibooks%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20News%20reports%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Any%20other%20section%28s%29%20you%20want%20to%20add%20%20Please%20do%20add%20as%20much%20as%20you%20want%20on%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Updates%20on%20the%20various%20projects%20%20%20%20%20Landmarks,%20birthdays,%20celebrations,%20events,%20conferences,%20%20etc%20between%20Jan-Mar%202012%20%20%20%20%20Reports%20on%20outreach%20sessions%20conducted%20%20%20%20%20Links%20to%20meetups%20and%20where%20to%20find%20the%20next%20ones%20%20%20%20%20Please%20feel%20free%20to%20add%20sections%20that%20you%20think%20would%20be%20nice%2E%20%20I%20could%20suggest%20%22Featured%20Wikimedians%22%20and%20%22Featured%20Newbies%22%20as%20examples%2E%20%20After%20you%20set%20up%20the%20page,%20please%20do%20post%20this%20on%20your%20respective%20village%20pumps%20or%20mailing%20lists%20and%20any%20other%20forums%20so%20that%20all%20community%20members%20know%2E%20%20Please%20do%20share%20the%20page%20with%20me%20%28offlist%29%20so%20I%20can%20help%20out%20too%2E%20%20If%20you%20are%20facing%20any%20difficulties,%20please%20do%20not%20hesitate%20to%20contact%20me%20%28noo...@wikimedia.org%29/is how the Nepali community did it last time. After you set up the page, please do post this on your respective village pumps or mailing lists and any other forums so that all community members know. Please do share the page with me (offlist) so I can help out too. 1. Can you please and add the links at bottom referencing them inline? Not that there will be NSFW links on the list, but its better for people to know where they would be landing before clicking, also helps mobile folks. It will also help you avoid things like below one. 2. Here is linked erroneously to URL encoded message of the same mail, which you can see here[1]. You may want to post the
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipatrika: Next Issue
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 16:53, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: The line that is inadvertently visible was part of an email from me. There are some sensitivities regarding posting content in English on the Marathi Urdu mailing lists and village pumps. May be posting in respective wiki's Embassy pages[1] will help. Marathi,Urdu stories cant be missed due to this! [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Embassy -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 13:47, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: The Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report TL;DR: 13 completed hacks, including 2 core mediawiki patches, 3 tawiki userscript updates and 2 new deployed tools. It was super awesome and super productive! +1, it was indeed super awesome! 1. Wikiquotes via SMS By: @MadhuVishy and @YesKarthik Status: Deployed live! Send SMS '@wikiquote Gandhi' to 9243342000 to test it out! Has limited data right now, however. They continue to work on making it more simpler, rich by giving an api which can tweet etc. They also need help with manually entering quotes, if you are interested, please ping me off list. (TxtWeb is an awesome platform and lot of people do use it, a fine example being dyk-plugin I wrote at Mumbai hackathon and never said a word outside this mailing list is getting 30 hits a day, even today!) http://blog.yeskarthik.in/2012/03/wiki-quotes-as-text-messages/ 13. Add 'My Uploads' to top bar along with My Contributions, etc (Mediawiki Core Patch) By: SrikanthLogic This was an easy patch sitting in openhatch for sometime now. Status: It has been committed in gerrit (currently unable to find a link). Should be merged in soon. Yay! I should be commit to gerrit soon, still reading through workflow. Next Steps == Where do we go from here? Random thoughts: More of these? This was pretty much a 'zero cost' event - stickers were the only 'cost'. A lot of places around the country would love to have their space used for a hackathon of sorts. Should we do more of these kind of 'Unofficial' hackathons? +1, these also make more people aware that they can hack on Wikimedia stuff! Thanks due (in random order) 1. Thoughtworks/BalajiDamodaran: He graciously hosted us at Thoughtworks. The biggest challenge for any hackathon is to find a nice place which understands what hackathons are, and provides what is considered the lifeblood of a hackathon - working WiFi. Balaji (@openbala) was incredibly awesome, and this entire thing would've not been possible at all without him and ThoughtWorks. Big thanks to Balaji / Thoughtworks who have always been supportive to us(The first Wikimeetup in Chennai happened in Nov 2010 @ old thoughtworks office) Venue was just perfect. 3. Srikanth Lakshmanan: The hackathon was his idea, and he made sure it was executed in a nice way. It just happened with @tecoholic asking me WHY NO HACKATHON IN CHENNAI after not being able to attend Mumbai / Pune ones and Sumana asking me why don't do I help doing one. Yuvipanda missed to thank himself,for being patient to all my prodding over a month, adding a bunch of ideas and for being awesome helping everyone at hackathon and in the process chose not to work on his AssessmentBar hack.But this made sure a many others completed their hacks :) (Sorry AshLin, you will get AssessmentBar very soon!) Most of all, this event was a success because of the quality and dedication of the people who turned up, giving up their Saturdays. Hope everyone who turned up had a nice time :) +1 and I do hope lot of them continue to hack for Wikimedia :) Some pictures here. (Urge to sign in more languages like any other India hackathon made people use Greek, base64, Morse Code Yuvi managed to spell his name right this time! :)) http://www.flickr.com/yuvi (more will be uploaded shortly and moved to commons) https://picasaweb.google.com/102002010785949271518/WikipediaHackathon -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 15:58, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: Are Wikipedians scrutinised at all was my general question, above. There is something called Requests for Comments. There was a mail recently about an RfC on a Hindi Wikipedia admin recently. So it looks like community scrutinizes wikipedians too, at least to me, you can have your opinion if you differ. My only point here was that more community members must join in to make sure that a single or a group of Wikipedians do not push POV. IMHO it would be inaccurate to say single / group of Wikipedians are pushing POV because others are silent. (Push in pushing POV happens only when there is a resistance), if there is no one else responding to conversation, it would just to putting forth views. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:32, Tinu Cherian ( Wikimedia India) tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote: In 2011, WikiConference India was held for the first time and turned out to be a landmark event. It was the largest Wikipedia conference in the world, ever held to date! Can we keep niceties aside and look at how the event was run / challenges faced by organizers (Includes chapter-OC coordination and a semi-public spat) and do a thorough discussion on the conference list before talking of any next steps for WCI 2012. Also there has been no report that has been made available public for the community. It is for the community's own good health, issues are ironed out even before there is *any* discussion on next WCI. It might be good for the chapter / IP to keep having a conference every year and showcase India story, but volunteers(including the bootstrap team) who are interested in organizing must know what are the pain points in making a conference happen and the kind of support they would be getting from chapter / IP. Pranav / Pradeep, Can we have your conference OC report any sooner? -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:51, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: To add up my thoughts here, the passion and joy of contributing to the movement is subsiding...But personal agendas caballing are on high tide here... Sad, but the truth... :( I just hope ( and pray that) good faith , sense conscience prevails among us .. Talking of personal agendas caballing praying for good faith in the same mail doesn't help either. Charity starts at home? -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments - will your country participate?
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm...@lists.wmnederland.nl. Is there a reason the archives should to be private? -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 13:03, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.comwrote: And can one of you guys write a blog in the blog.wikimedia.org which is short and explains how people using A) Java based OS, B) Symbian, C) Android can browse Indic WPs (All in one blog which a non-tech savvy guy can understand :D ) There is only one way for all those people. Use Opera mini. Read this blogpost[1] which explains in terms. There is also a huge growth in mobile stats this month, 100% (estimated) almost for all Indic projects, which might be happening due to Mobile apps + mobile front page update which many wikipedia's did a few days back. It would be interested to see the source of traffic for these and I guess we would have more stats would be made available by the Mobile team soon. Having an input method on mobile will help a lot since many people can search and explore more pages on mobile as opposed to just following links. Android phones already have apps for Indic input. Even symbian has some, but having an on-site typing solution will help a lot just as did for the desktop site. [1] http://veerasundar.com/blog/2010/08/regional-font-support-in-opera-mini/ [2] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/TablesPageViewsMonthlyMobile.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Tool to aid creating list based articles into Indic Wikipedias
Hi all, There is a tool[1] which can help you create list based articles faster by replacing existing interwiki links. Just copy the list syntax from source wiki and get names converted in your language with existing links. Please ensure to translate the remaining part of article which did not get auto translated. This is not a machine translation, its just a search/replace of wiki links. Thanks to Mahir (Tamil Wikipedia) for this tool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_cricket_centuries_by_Sachin_Tendulkar exists only in Malayalam, Please do the needful :D Hope this helps. [1] http://toolserver.org/~mahir/ -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and other events
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: what amount of Back end work was done Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, its not sexy stuff :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find them useful. 2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective of Wikipedia. 1. Usage :- Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons, asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not unused. Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel happy about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which added only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added 628 files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for the event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for all, which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms of tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc) If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but still). Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87% usage, but jokes apart Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally] Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not possible to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a decent success. 2. Naming and meta data :- A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it) B. English Description (or Add it) C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it) 3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing is almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of next few months, any help welcome :) Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed section on learnings / best practices. On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4], which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( ) There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects across wikimedia universe can use it. Thanks for reading through. [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India [3] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition [4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२ -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:57, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: It doesn't have to be English if you're not comfortable. It shouldn't be English if either you / audience are uncomfortable and both have a better comfort level in another language. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Rahul Dravid
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 15:55, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Not only is this relevant to indic languages as well, the image discussion is related to Commons. That is still about content. IIRC we don't discuss about content(even if its related to Indic / commons) here unless its important from community perspective (WifiOne etc). Peace. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program: Community Monthly Report: Feb 2012
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:43, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: In keeping with this spirit :) and the difficulty of distinguishing between all these roles, I propose a simple purity test: Can you please stop trolling? This is not I-Dont-want-mention-list-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program: Community Monthly Report: Feb 2012
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:45, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Also, as long as I am not signing off with my official credentials at the end of the email, I am only expressing personal opinion. For instance, I wouldn't claim that Shiju's indisposition towards me is the official stance of his employer. Tip for the staff/chapter folks, (to those who wish to hear) Can you subscribe to the list with official IDs (with no mail option) and configure mail clients (Gmail has a nifty option) and send mails accordingly? For instance, Tinu / Anirudh need not repeat they are replying in personal note always if they chose to reply from wikimedia.in email IDs for their statements as chapter representatives. In other cases it will be by-default considered as personal/voluntary statements, after all this list is for volunteers/community!. HTH. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reducing the number of mails
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 19:10, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I find that the number of mails I receive from mailings about India and Wikimedia is a bit excessive. It would be be easy to reduce it significantly by not cross-posting every announcements, and by not sending congratulations to the list, but to the person concerned. Thanks Yann for bringing this up. I have updated list guidelines[1] with note on the individual mails. I am not sure about cross-posting, since that might continue to happen for the sake of informing all. You could consider subscribing into digest mode if required :) All, IIRC, The mailing list guidelines page was created when there was some ruckus on the list last time. Can we all make a conscious effort to put across whats acceptable on the list and whats not, there and come reach consensus, so there everyone can follow them which will save lot of time? Mailman also has a feature to post a reminder every month and we could use it, so newbies will also know the list guidelines. [1] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/MailingList_Guidelines -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Hackathon on efytimes
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program
FYI, Since there is a lot of Interest in Education Program here. -- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Schnautz rschna...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 01:30 Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Invitation to help beta-test the MediaWiki 1.19 extension for the Wikipedia Education Program To: mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org, wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org The MediaWiki developers have been working hard to integrate certain elements of the Wikipedia Education Program into MediaWiki. If anyone is interested in helping beta-test the new extension, click (or copy and paste) the link below to get started: http://education.wmflabs.org/index.php/MW_1.18:Community_portal/Welcome,_beta_testers ! Please note that this site does not will not represent official Wikipedia Education Program data. Feel free to alter the data on the wiki however you wish; the more testing you do, the better! Thanks, Rob Schnautz Online Communications Contractor Global Development Wikimedia Foundation 11450 Northridge Dr Evansville IN 47720 c. 812.746.8347 ___ MediaWiki-l mailing list mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Register: Learn Wikipedia editing while you sit at home
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:31, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Can anybody tell me the difference here : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogincampaign=ACP1type=signupreturnto=Main+Page and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin/signup What is campaign=ACP1 ?? We could track signup based on campaign. Read more here[1] Akshay, Would you be interested to throw more light about your work? [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Account_creation -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Sreejithk2000 is now an admin on Commons
A strange coincidence, Arjuna was saying We need more 'Indian hands' on #commons.[1], this happened. Now who wants to put more Indian hands on commons? [1] http://twitter.com/arjunaraoc/status/176330764781236226 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Medianama : Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic Editions
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:54, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote: Irrelevant Results? We weren’t too happy with results generated through Indic language transliteration input Correct me if am wrong, this is not due to the transliteration, it might occur for any Indic / language text which is entered through more than one keystrore(which might include Inscript as well) due to the nature of algorithm used for instant search?. Somewhat relevant post by Santhosh here[1] although its about fuzziness. [1] https://plus.google.com/105440198958793955794/posts/ekSPWgodBzU -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing Noopur Raval as Consultant, Wikimedia Foundation (India Program, Communications)
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 19:19, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: I am pleased to announce that Noopur Raval ([User:Noopur28http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Noopur28] has been selected as Consultant to the Wikimedia Foundationhttp://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home, and will support Communications for India Programhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program. Congrats! Lastly, there is untapped potential of using digital outreach - to augment existing physical outreach efforts. We need to (very, very carefully) explore if we can reach out to our large and growing reader base and inform, encourage and enable them to become editors using online channels and resources. Even if its 'Lastly', Glad that someone will be available to look into this, hoping to collaborate in a good way since am very much interested on this. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 21:21, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.comwrote: but the instructions given is so much techie to be digestible for me :-) So please fix it, update the page with whats missing that would help another person like you, after all its a wiki :) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiki Media Contest
Hello All, The contest is now closed. A total of 15217[1] (5 times our expectation[2]) files were uploaded by around 300 contributors. We are planning to announce the results by March 25th (Yes, selecting 9 prizes out of 15,000 entries is slightly tough task). A detailed report / statistics will be available soon. Thanks for your support. [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:TamilWiki_Media_Contest [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Tamil_Wikimedians/TamilWiki_Media_Contest#Measures_of_success Regards, Srikanth L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote: The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours. This is bad. You asked for / were given only 1 hour slot? that too with out a lab / proper internet? #fail. What is the point of signing MoU and all for this. Even if this 1 hour / rest of the stuff went well, I wonder if it makes sense for 2 persons to travel for 12+ hours / spend a weekend to talk for 1 hour. Anyone else who feels it makes sense, please enlighten me. Last year we spent 8+ hours on stall, 2.5 hours on the academy part. (Effectiveness is totally another thing) Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a student should not have anything to do with it. Bottom-line is that the NIT-T organizers should have treated us better. We do not need five-star type accommodation. But some simple courtesy is expected of them. Also,a week prior to the event, Saagar had promised me transport to and from the venue. The fact is that they did not seem to really care too much about the WikiAcademy and treated it like they were doing us a favour. Courtesy could have been better, but facilities may not always be (Esp in tier 2 cities). So please try and adjust (if you were asked to travel in public transport). Yes, they do/might treat you like they are doing you a favour(I don't see why they would really care), in fact they actually do *some* favour in giving space for us. The interest you (I barely know you btw) and I have towards Wikipedia might not be same any organizer at these events will have. They might have extra interest on swags etc. Most Tech fests are not run/attended by students with noble intentions of learning something technical etc.(At best they learn team work, organizational skills) I said part of the statement about attendees on this list here[1] In short, when going to a college, keep your expectations to bare minimum be it on the audience / organizers. If something was good, do appreciate, otherwise accept it as reality on Indian conditions. There is nothing to be ashamed / unpatriotic in accepting certain things as Indian reality. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-January/006554.html -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 18:40, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light here.The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a community need to improve (dumb things down, use better methods) our strategies of communication so that we don't waste a lot of our time and still get results. IMHO, it is way too early to expect 1-2 editors to be recruited out of all such events because *Wikipedia movement is too nascent in India to make immediate sense to people. *So, there will be at least 1-2 years of just conversation before everyone knows that Wikipedia can be edited. That is why I strongly believe that we need to keep doing these sessions. Noopur, Care to read my reply once more before misunderstanding? Where have I questioned the need for outreach on the mail? I specifically mentioned ***(Effectiveness is totally another thing)** *-- which means I am not even talking about effectiveness here, even though I have alternate views on outreach. My sadness was all these things was done for 1 hour slot? Chapter spending time to sign MoU might take atleast 1 hour for Naveen Co, atleast 10 people planning/mailing in the run up to the event where we have a 1 hour slot. Is that worthy? Enlighten me. I also mentioned the amount of time that was spent last year(again not uttering a word on the effectivity / need of it). Thanks for your understanding. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 19:44, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I am merely suggesting that we will have to start looking at worth differently than time consumed. Some where else, someone learnt[1] time is scarcest resource and I think it applies to our context as well. I am out of here. Have a good day. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Mid-Year_Review_February_2012.pdfpage=56 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Mobile sites of Indic Wikipedias
Hi all,
Needless to repeat the India-Indic-Mobile-Growth story. But I was
surprised even with that, many Indic wikipedias do not have a mobile
site(or some have gone dead since they failed to update for
MobileFrontend[1] changes), even the ones that had weren't very much
usable. Lets not cite, mobile phones do not have fonts, no one uses Indic
on mobile, we all know lot of people do use Opera-mini with complex script
rendering support.
* Please visit yourlanguage.m.wikpedia.org and see if there is a page. If
it has nothing but 'search, license, and action control' links, here[2] are
the steps that an admin need to do to get a mobile site running with
content. If you have problem in doing those, come and ask at
#wikimedia-tech (or #mediawiki {?}).
* When I visited Tamil wikipedia mobile site, I was restricted to content
that was put on mainpage, the links in it. Since my Symbian phone doesnt
have Indic input system, I cant search anything. The solution to this is to
have a list of articles in alphabetical order *and* display it in mobile
front page, like Assamese wikipedians have done[3]. Many Indic wikis have
this template, but few show it on main page. This might be incredibly
useful on mobile versions.
More thoughts on improving Mobile sites welcome :)
Mobile sites are important since,
1. Lot of people will be using this.
2. The Wikipedia app uses this(?) [Correct me if am wrong]
[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend
[2]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage
[3] http://as.m.wikipedia.org/
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Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Improving outreach efforts in India
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 16:13, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: I shall try to reply to the 10 when I find some time. Meanwhile an interesting post to read[1] Specifically for Indic languages, how do we make sure that we have relatively less rigid and comprehensive policies (which work for en-wp with tens of thousands of editors - but is totally impractical when we have 50 editors which is the case for all but 3 Indic communities.) This is no where close to anything about outreach. So am replying here,would like to say 3 things on it. 1. Policies should always be determined, drafted, discussed by the community. Please sit and watch at bay. Do not interfere with community's autonomy unless its an extreme situation. 2. Chapter / Programs / Foundation interference on these must be minimal, only when there is a extreme danger to the health of wiki / risking the entities. (Interfere if a wiki is not drafting copyvio policies and is soft on it) 3. There might be people who understand Wikipedia culture differently, people having no idea about Wiki culture who reboot the inactive communities, in such cases, India Programs should only be helping educate those users about core values, policies in other wikis and the decision on policies must always be taken by the communities themselves. [1] http://blog.tommorris.org/post/18271663638/wikipedia-and-teaching-game-rules -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Cleaning up Mediawiki namespace / reviewing translations on Indic Wiki Projects.
Hi all, Please read the blogpost[1] by GerardM on the need to cleanup mediawiki namespace on Indic wikis. Doing this will mean Wiki projects will get updated translations from LocalizationUpdates when they are translated in translatewiki and not be overshadowed by old (incorrect/outdated) local translations. When you see there are customized messages, a cleanup effort might be required to see if there is an absolute need to keep customized messages. This activity is being taken up by Tamil Wikpedians.[2] If you need help to do it on your wiki, come and give a shout at #mediawiki-i18n, people would be glad to help you :) [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.in/2012/02/cleaning-up-mediawiki-namespace.html [2] http://tawp.in/r/31cf -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT][Press] : Skip the numbers game
http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/nxg/article2919794.ece Curriculum is always a few years, if not decades, out of date. Only by getting out can you get knowledge and skills that are current and useful. For example, I did the Google Summer of Code (internship) with mediawiki last year, and am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, where I help run Wikipedia, an amazing job with a huge impact. Would've never happened if I stuck to my “curriculum”. - YUVARAJ PANDIAN Go Panda! -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Localisation and internationalisation bugs affecting Indic language communities
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:54, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 02/20/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote: Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:23:08 +0530 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com If you are asking only about technical issues, many communities do log bugs from time to time. But when they remain open beyond certain period and the person who logged becomes inactive, they go into black hole and there is no one to follow up(even if its fixed, they remain open). There is nothing to be distressed here. Srikanth, this is distressing to hear! If you could point to some specific Bugzilla reports that have gone into the black hole, including ones that no longer reflect reality, I could help ask the localisation team to follow up and at least put some updated information in the issues at bugzilla.wikimedia.org . They are called black hole for the reason anyone(apart from the filer / folks who conversed) might not be able to easily spot them. In most cases the bugs lack update from the filers / language communities. But again if the filer is from one generation and has retired, who does the follow up? Ideally language support teams must do it. But all of us know Indic communities have very few people to look into these and the common pattern I have found across few communities I have interacted is that spending time on bugzilla / improving technology/language support is not going to change things big way, so I might as well be contented (Ex:- Why Narayam when js works fine) with whats there and do my editing. But at some point, communities need to focus on these, as and when the communities grow, they will also get contributors who are interested in supporting the language technically. But the larger issues are common and pretty much known to i18n team. (like say PDF rendering). I tried cleaning up Tamil related bugs recently which were documented here[1] since 2006, also created a tracking bug[2]. But then as someone else said, People are just waiting for one more tracking bug to fix those. ! //So tracking bugs don't help beyond a point ! This is also distressing to hear! I'm not quite sure what was implied there -- did the speaker mean that the localisation team won't address certain problems until there are more tracking bugs to help track issues, or something else? The quote was from one of the bugs I remember seeing on bugzilla, said by someone on a totally different bug nothing related to localization. The point I implied quoting it was process for the sake of it doesn't help much beyond a point. Adding tracking bugs does not impact the age of the bug. The bugs remain open either because they are hard to solve / lack of bandwidth / lack of input / variety of other reasons, not because no one is tracking them. Adding a tracking bug wont magically fix the bug / help in the getting it to closure. But tracking bug serves useful especially for anyone new to see what are problem areas, how can I help fix / test / not report duplicate bugs etc. Most, if not all Indic issues would be tagged with i18n keyword on bugzilla. Yes, adding the i18n keyword to an issue in Bugzilla will help bring it to the attention of the localisation team. Another point, Not all Indic wikipedia related issues are i18n issues, though there might be heavy overlap. There are site requests like changing logo,namespace, installing extensions whatever. The point to note is, when someone does these things in any Indic community(which already have tiny community), please keep the community widely posted / document these somewhere.Not just issues, but solutions/workarounds, gadgets used, things like abuse filter rules(if any) and its rationale behind etc. This will help someone else in your community(who may come years later) to follow up even if you retire / had forgotten. Fortunately Tamil Wiki community did that from the beginning(at least the major ones,if not everything) in the form of a page[1] and I was able to go through,know the past issues,update it after almost 2 years! I felt a tracking bug might be easier to track on issues than a page, so I just created one. Thanks for mentioning this problem, Srikanth. This problem is not restricted to bugzilla. This may even happen in say in translation or anything, where only a subset (ideally 1-2 in a community of 10) involve in the activities and do not document / pass over the knowledge properly.Smaller Wikipedias must not rely on select individual on anything so much that they become extinct/dormant after their wiki-time (Insert story of Bishnupriya Manipuri) I hope Shiju is reading and might be able to relate to it / research on solutions :) [1] http://tawp.in/r/3hl -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : The Hindu : The struggles of keeping Kannada Wikipedia afloat
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:43, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: I guess what I am asking is whether all the issues that the various language communities in India face have been recorded on the bugzilla and, there is a page somewhere which allows anyone interested to track them. If you are asking only about technical issues, many communities do log bugs from time to time. But when they remain open beyond certain period and the person who logged becomes inactive, they go into black hole and there is no one to follow up(even if its fixed, they remain open). But the larger issues are common and pretty much known to i18n team. (like say PDF rendering). I tried cleaning up Tamil related bugs recently which were documented here[1] since 2006, also created a tracking bug[2]. But then as someone else said, People are just waiting for one more tracking bug to fix those. ! //So tracking bugs don't help beyond a point ! Most, if not all Indic issues would be tagged with i18n keyword on bugzilla. [1] http://tawp.in/r/3hl [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32578 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 02:28, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: It has probably got more to do with the fact that pages on the encyclopedia (even about general Indian topics) look complete and thorough Also the fact that availability of RS affects. Infact I would say that as one of reason for my non-involvment in the WP:INR workgroup. We created most of content from MoRTH and available RS which are worthy enough to be on encyclopedia. There is so much to add about Indian Roads, but where are the sources :( Naveen found WP:INEI , but then I was hijacked to Tamil Wiki :D -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Improving outreach efforts in India
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 17:12, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: The following is a post I've put up on the India Program page on meta regarding outreach (Please see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Outreach_Programs). Please do comment on the page itself; I'm posting it on this mailing list only to make sure it doesn't slip your attention. Bumping up to grab attention. I know there are many folks with years of outreach experience on the list. Can you please comment on the talk page? (Or even here, I could do the job of copypasting!) It is important to discuss, get perspectives / approaches towards outreach right since we would spending a lot of time,energy, donor money on this and its essential to design them well so we could make it effective and better. Slightly related :- shamelessplug http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Digital_Outreach_and_Physical_Outreach /shamelessplug -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Internet Democracy / FoE workshop
http://internetdemocracy.in/2012/02/12/make-blog-not-war-a-freedom-of-expression-training-for-bloggers/ (In the context of SOPA / Indian Internet censorship, photowalk issues (and what not!), I thought this may be of interest to few) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Will the chapter or India Programs provide assistance? IIRC both of them lie outside the content boundary and wouldn't be helping. I dont recollect reading anything like protecting interests of wikipedians on the chapter's mission / vision. Form a political party (since asking the current ones might not help!) and fight for it, else sit at home and edit non controversial stuff like Brinjal :P -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?
Hi, Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away, == in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked any idea? I get a page of advertising about web hosting http://commons.wikimedia.org works == My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked at seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on BSNL DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do necessary running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist? -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] FeaturedFeeds deployed
Hello all, This makes the featured content available and share-able in more machine readable format and also gives many possibilities. 1. Blogs / Websites can now carry content feeds from Wikipedia / WikiProjects 2. Feeds can be posted automatically to facebook pages to share featured content socially. 3. Mobile and apps (but untill fonts / rendering is fixed, it might not be as much useful) I just tried to pull up On This Day content from Tamil Wikipedia onto my blog with a widget, it was just matter of few minutes to make it happen. Please share this with content websites and if they are interested in giving us some space, please take this forward. Let me know if you need help in setting up these for your wiki's. This will however be fruitful only if featured content gets generated consistently. You might also want to read more about importance of Front Page content(in Tamil Wiki Community) here[1] Regards, Srikanth L [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Submissions/The_Evolution_and_Importance_of_the_Main_Page_in_Tamil_Wikipedia -- Forwarded message -- From: Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 18:36 Subject: [Wikitech-l] FeaturedFeeds deployed To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Yesterday we deployed FeaturedFeeds[1] to the cluster (thanks, Arthur!) Everything looks good so far, examples of feeds: [2], [3]. We haven't enabled feed links in the sidebar like on our staging wiki at [4] - I wonder if we should enable them on opt-in or opt-out basis. Overall, I'd apreciate your critics, comments, suggestions. Also, please assist your local communities in seting up their feeds, especially if you know less common languages. --- [1] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/26/featuredfeeds-brings-syndication-feeds-of-featured-wikimedia-content/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeedfeed=featuredfeedformat=atom [3] https://it.wikiquote.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeedfeed=qotdfeedformat=atom [4] http://mobile-feeds.wmflabs.org/w/index.php/Main_Page -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]]) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Design for Wikipdia India sites
Irrespective of this happening, Can some remove the Marquee from the current website (wikimedia.in) soonish? 0. Marquee is deprecated,non standard element [1] 1. Its well beyond Jan 15. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquee_element Regards, Srikanth L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Technical tutorials for Wikimedia meetups
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 20:52, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.orgwrote: want to let you know that we ran a few tutorials that now have reference notes/documentation available: * Customizing your experience with JavaScript (using user scripts Gadgets) * Using our web API * Building working on a Wikipedia app for Android using Phonegap Thanks much Sumana and everyone behind this! It has good amount of detail, exercises for a beginner to start, This will help much. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] REMINDER: Wikimania 2013 - invitation to bid
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:18, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: the organizing bit is outsourced to experienced event managers Not in totality. What can be outsourced are things like food / hotels / logistics etc. Its *WIKIPEDIANS* who have to do a whole lot of things from scholarships to programs to PR to finances to editing wiki pages(If you see wikimania's have a wiki for itself) to a whole lot of things which cannot be outsourced. WCI showed us how we were incredibly short of hands in each of these things. For the sake of calling it community conference, things *have* to be done by the *community*. If we dont feel like we have the community, we must be content with what we do and not aim at events which are way out of reach. -1 for any wikimania bid from India till 2014. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Proposal: Wikipedia participation at 'Kolkata Book Fair 2012'
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 16:54, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: * Try using services like http://pediapress.com/ or tie up with a local publisher to print books regarding Kolkatta, West Bengal, Bangaladesh and any relevant local content. PDF generation has issues with rendering complex scripts. This has been one of the major issues which multiple Indic communities have asked to fix for sometime now. Open bug[1]. During WCI Nasir khan(Bengali wikipedian) asked about the same and Santhosh had mentioned it might take some time as its not easy to fix. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28206 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A report on SSN College Academy
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 08:20, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Thank you very much for your work! I would be interested specifically in knowing what opportunities especially appealed to the students and what kinds of snags and problems they ran into when considering, or trying to start, contributing to MediaWiki and other Wikimedia technologies. It was a wrong crowd (only few from CS background) I would say, I realized only moments before talking. 4 hands went up for knowing something called PHP. I couldnt help much :( There were few interested though, gave them pointers to start, contact details.Introduced API(since some were familiar with java) and showed them some tools.One student was particularly interested on Semantic Mediawiki, gave some pointers/details (to best of my knowledge). I havent got any followup mails though. It was a good visit to alma mater though :) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outreach opportunities: Wikipedia workshops at tech fests
FWIW Some thoughts below. 1. Footfall measures dont mean much from our POV. If 1000 people attend a college tech fest, at best 200 will walk near where our stall is put up, 50-100 might come and hear us, 10 might engage in discussion(mostly to clarify doubts on their previous edit experiences), 1/0 might start editing after the day. If you say all 1000 will come and listen to us on the stall, Please attend one, you will know. If you still think college student mass attend tech fests for learning from these programs that run on tech fest, I cant help you, that's just a minority. (Any student on the list who can speak form heart on why student mass attend these events without trying to be politically correct?) 2. It is good to do a general outreach + academy for maximum 1-1.5 days, but its good to get the facts straight, especially if there is a hint of sponsoring / spending big time for these events since in all probability this has to be equally treated with any other city outreach events (In fact I would rate the latter better, since people attend those for Wikipedia as sole reason, hence may most likely have more interest) 3. This crowd (mostly Engineering students who attend these tech fests) are mostly aware about Wikipedia (Heck just go and look at college articles, people come and spam about when events happen to get publicity), So its not even like we are reaching unknown / outside online world folks who are target in bookfairs(for ex) which are similar in many levels. Regards, Srikanth L PS : Am mentioning the above facts with a notion that physical outreach in general gives better returns, which I might not agree wholeheartedly. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SOPA protest - Bengali Wikipedia placed a banner, what about other Indic language wikis?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:52, Tanvir Rahman wikitan...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe other Indic language Wikipedias can take similar initiatives Malayalam is also spreading the news through banners. http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Sitenotice -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Design for Wikipdia India sites
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:19, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw this. I like the design a lot. It's cleaner and attractive. The free images can be rotated periodically. Thank you, Planemad and Yuvi! +1 We could also probably have twitter feed of WikimediaIndia and link to like FB page to make it more social? -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Design for Wikipdia India sites
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 17:15, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: I also liked the current design of wikimedia.in. Rather simple but clean. If your last visit was a few days back, just have a look again. I think its important to keep the chapter landing page (wikimedia.in ) and wikipedia / wikiprojects landing page seperate. wikimedia.in can continue in form, probably add more details about the chapter on landing page (like the twitter feed / facebook / donate links etc) and wikipedia.in can be to explain about wikiprojects, can take the current design of globe / use the proposed design. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher ( The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the content further. The information is only shared only with an internal community who have been featured on this article. All copyrights are duly acknowledged.* (bold is mine) You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since when people in India thought of copyright seriously. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SOPA protest - Bengali Wikipedia placed a banner, what about other Indic language wikis?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:52, Tanvir Rahman wikitan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Just to let you know that Bengali Wikipedia [1] has placed a banner on their site notice protesting SOPA and PIPA. Maybe other Indic language Wikipedias can take similar initiatives or maybe they have taken one already? If so, share with us! Great! Tamil Wikipedia is discussing a similar proposal to but sitenotice banners. In the mean time, I have an translation request for you. Maybe you have read Sue's letter [2] to the community about the blackout. I invite you all to translate that letter in your language. Since we have little time (less than 17 hours), we need be prompt. See the translation request on Meta-Wiki [3] and start your translation. IMHO Practically, its too late for translations. Get yourself up and let your people know in your language! This is more important. Please write SOPA article in your language. Tamil has a Wikipedia article on SOPA[1] and Wikinews article on the English Wikipedia blackout against SOPA[2]. [1] http://tawp.in/r/2ygn [2] http://ta.wikinews.org/wiki/இணையத்_திருட்டு_நிறுத்தல்_சட்டமூலத்துக்கு_எதிராக_விக்கிப்பீடியா_குரல் -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SOPA protest - Bengali Wikipedia placed a banner, what about other Indic language wikis?
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:12, Alolita Sharma alolita.sha...@gmail.comwrote: HI Tanvir, Srikanth, Great to hear No-SOPA banners being considered to be on Bengali and Tamil wikipedias. Having translations on SOPA articles would be great. Here is the whitelist that we plan to have available on en.wp Thanks for the whitelist. May I request you / WMF to consider adding pages in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_censorship_by_country to whitelist as well? SOPA is a big thing in US, but similar insane things are happening elsewhere too (India too!) and even if Wikimedia Community in India prefers to be silent, protests needs to happen. We are have started one such at http://publictransit.in (http://busroutes.in will soon have this) and no better article than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_India to explain. Time will tell if protests need to intensify in India and I hope the online community in India will rise to the situation if required. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SOPA protest - Bengali Wikipedia placed a banner, what about other Indic language wikis?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 23:12, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Great! Tamil Wikipedia is discussing a similar proposal to but sitenotice banners. We are done :) Black Banners for everyone http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Anonnotice -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Attachments will be hence forth discarded on list
Hi all, Please DONOT add attachments to the list. If you want to share something, put it up in commons(if its valid, like wikipedia stats, designs etc) or in some file sharing site and put the link here for people to download. All mails greater than 256K will not go through instantly and will have to be cleared manually. I just bombed all your mail boxes(Sorry for those using limited space mail IDs), hope not to in the future. Thanks for your understanding. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2013 - Announcement of Jury and invitation to bid
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 13:39, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to Pranav's comment on lack of a local team. The main problem as I see in India will be the distance and hence someone in Delhi can't really be of much help to someone in Bombay. While local team is one thing. There were still lot of things that people could have done sitting elsewhere. Beria did some amazing work with keeping up the portal and posting messages, she was not even in India. There were many others from many cities and few countries who made this conference happen, in the sense it was not just Mumbai community but some location agnostic wikipedian community that pulled the event off together. The problem with WCI was both lack of local as well as online volunteers and it was not like people weren't there. They were very much happy in giving advice on the list(the archives can speak for itself). So when the emphasis on Strong local team was made by Pranav, it must be read as having a large enough community of Do-ers than talkers for the scale of event. I strongly don't foresee the next edition of WCI happening in 2012, leave alone Wikimania 2013. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools: Status Board
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 19:44, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: For what languages is this ? English.IMO Language communities doesn't have enough strength/courage yet to think of numbers in 1000's. /me refrains from commenting on English since he is away from all the hustle and bustle of WikiProject:India -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Come help us test the Android app before it goes to market
-- Forwarded message -- From: Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:27 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Come help us test the Android app before it goes to market To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org We've been getting great bug reports from our testers but can always use more. If you have an Android phone then follow the link below to learn how you can help http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-January/005284.html Were looking to start pushing to the major Android stores next week and need your help to get there. thanks! --tomasz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Srikanth.L http://srik.me ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines
Hi all, Off late the traffic to India list has gone up much more than what it was before (already a highly active list!). During the last couple of months, we moderators have got requests from members that the list is becoming pointless due to the volume of mails and quality of threads. I propose, together we all write down some list guidelines and follow them to make the list more productive. New members will be sent this guideline when they join the list. Please feel free to help out by making the list guidelines[1] (Which is a very rough draft now) [1] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/MailingList_Guidelines -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list Guidelines
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 15:14, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: hi, Do any other Wikipedia lists have such guidelines which we can 'get inspired' by? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Guidelines has some related points which can be used by us too. Lets be inspiration for others :P . Frankly list needing to have guidelines mean that we haven't used it to optimal level or there are large influx of newbies on list. (Others might not need since they already use optimally / may not have too many newbies like us) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Workshop Mumbai 2
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 17:11, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: I have three suggestions for inclusion here, based on recent experiences: copyrights/copyvio, notability; and some emphasis on verifiability. CoI is much much more important in this context. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:46, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: hi Vickram, Pradeep/Vickram/Srikanth R, Please spare the list on debates which are not even tangential to the aim of the list. We are not here to discuss about FOSS People (Discussing about FOSS which might be related to and might interest people here / not annoy them atleast) Request you to keep the conversations individually. STOP :) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil FOSS magazine
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 02:05, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.comwrote: http://kaniyam.com/release-1/ The more relevant information to this list would be, it contains 1. Article on Tamil Wikipedia 2. Article on Tamil Wiki Media Contest 3. Wikipedia Fundraiser appeals in Tamil and a link to donate. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on ShortURL for Indic WikiProjects
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 00:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Self? As in the community, right? Hmm yes. Also the code is now hosted at http://publictransit.in/ , So please patronize public transit in your life, that will help that domain/server/movement :P to be alive someway. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Introducing... Maruti Suzuki's new car!
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 23:16, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: ... and it's called Wacky-pedia. Hey Anirudh, Welcome to India :) The ad has been around for sometime now, infact off TV for while. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] StatisticsBot for closer look on Indic numbers
Hi all, ar:User:OsamaK had developed a pywikipedia based bot to collect daily stats[1] and has been running for over 2 years. I had just translated it and started running for Tamil wikipedia here[2]. I am now looking ApiSandbox[3][4] to build queries which will get more data(Bot activity, number of users with atleast 1 edit on the day,anon edits etc) which might be useful to log and keep track on daily basis.let me know if some other parameter might be useful to collect. Feel free to run this on your Indic wiki project and observe the numbers :) This can help notice sudden spikes on any parameter on day-day basis and help relate to some event (outreach / real world events) Thanks to Osama for the base code, the english version of which is available here[5]. Please feel free to fork and and add to it :) [1] http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/مستخدم:OsamaK/إحصاءات/ديسمبر_2011 [2] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Statistics/December_2011 [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ApiSandbox [4] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox [5] https://gist.github.com/b37a1d07888597f7c9ac -- Regards Srikanth.L PS : This entire thing was a by-product of Bala's Doha visit when he interacted with Osama in the Arabic wiki convention and got to know of this. Apparently Bala learnt this from Osama and he learnt about wmf grant process from Bala :) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Commons being blocked in most places.
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 00:22, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Which reminds me, sorry to butt in, but what is India's position on image filters? What do you mean India's position? Are you asking for the A) Position of people who are for/against censorship on Internet including Wikipedia? B) Position of people on this list? C) Position of Indian editors majority of whom prefer to stay outside this list? I don't think there is any single thing all will agree on, leave alone controversial topics like ImageFilter -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
