Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes. DVR and NVRs On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:39 PM wrote: > I have used their cameras at times. Do they also make a DVR? > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 12:18 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert
Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete option, which comes with a $4K/cupholder CREDIT... On 11/22/19 4:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of them. bp On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: Umm, Bill - fake news.

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe German cars come with stein holders? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:54 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of them. bp On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of them. bp On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada… On Nov 22,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Tim Hardy
Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada… > On Nov 22, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Yeah. Only $4K each. > > > bp > > > On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >> woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?! >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
Speaking to a friend with a M3, he says he can postpone updates as long as he wants, but he generally doesn't. bp On 11/22/2019 3:49 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I'm pretty sure Tesla has an option you can turn on to get updates

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
The Toyota comes with at least 12 for free.. lol On 11/22/19 7:37 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Yeah. Only $4K each. bp On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?! On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
Yeah. Only $4K each. bp On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?! On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mathew Howard
woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?! On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders > finally, Sound system? More like 15... > > On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Toyota is super nice

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm pretty sure Tesla has an option you can turn on to get updates sooner, or let it wait until it feels like updating... I don't think mine got the last major update until at least a few weeks after it was released. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 5:27 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > & unfortunately, you

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ahhh, the old "own the hardware but only lease the software" catch, hence the "right to repair movement" and the farmers who can't fix their John Deere tractors themselves. https://www.wired.com/story/john-deere-farmers-right-to-repair/

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
& unfortunately, you cannot decide to wait till version 2 comes out, if they decide to release a 1.1test, you get it... At least that's what my buddy was telling (whining) me... On 11/22/2019 03:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: You have to be aware of the firmware version when talking about a Tesla.

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
You have to be aware of the firmware version when talking about a Tesla. The firmware is more important than the model year because they are updating it fairly often. bp On 11/22/2019 1:02 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: They have that ability and do it.  BUT the programming has had some serious

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Jason McKemie
A friend of mine has a Model S P85D and says it is great on snow/ice. I would suspect the truck will be better. On Friday, November 22, 2019, Mike Hammett wrote: > Supposedly, their computer can manage the slippage on a per-wheel basis to > get any traction that might be available instead of

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
Interesting. I now only use Google maps; I download the local area when I need it. Way better than any in-car system. BTW - Waze is a Google property. If you're using Waze, you only get traffic data from other Waze users. If you're using Google maps, you get traffic data from a wider

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
I have tried to use Google maps off line when in my Ranger.. I went out and bought a portable after the last time... On 11/22/2019 03:00 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Google Maps has the ability to offline cache map data for nearly any geography you select. While not the best routing, I can

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Google Maps has the ability to offline cache map data for nearly any geography you select. While not the best routing, I can still use Waze when offline (ie: my phone is using Sprint at the moment and I'm on the phone, resulting in no data). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
LOL you must always travel in cell phone service. I have been mis-directed by android and apple maps many times. I love having actual GPS dedicated mapping systems. On 11/22/2019 02:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I can't imagine that being used by many people. They just need to get rid of

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
I can't imagine that being used by many people. They just need to get rid of in-car navigation systems and use Android Auto and CarPlay. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes"

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
I do not have maps on the truck :) I guess that's a feature that was left out... but I don't use that either, so it wasn't a selling feature. On 11/22/19 5:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Have they improved the mapping system display?   I got in my neighbors Tundra and I thought the quality of

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
That would have been a good guess, but I actually just checked the purchase date and it was May 24th 2018. so I don't think it was that. I can't explain it, I can only tell you what happened. But yeah, if you hit the dealers at the right time you can get many thousands off. On 11/22/19

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
Have they improved the mapping system display? I got in my neighbors Tundra and I thought the quality of the mapping system ( not the hardware ) was mediocre.. The ui was not what I expected from Toyota... On 11/22/2019 02:04 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Oh yeah...I have bluetooth in the Tundra

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
Oh yeah...I have bluetooth in the Tundra It's one of the reasons we purchased the Tundra... at the time it was the best model for price available. On 11/22/19 4:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models.  I got a 4 cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
LOL On 11/22/19 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Yes Mike, it's a Toyota.  Not Pontiac. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett > wrote: Does a $30k truck come with

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
It does indeed. Collision system, backup camera, adaptive cruise control, full bed liner. Why is this so hard to understand? On 11/22/19 3:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread chuck
Gheeze, rounding error. It is close enough. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck As I said it's not 30, you're 10% higher than that. That's retail price for a base model Tundra. I'm sure it's a

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread chuck
I have used their cameras at times. Do they also make a DVR? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 12:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference HiKVision is Jaimie's goto. I have used them several times on his

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders finally, Sound system? More like 15... On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc. Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in options for that

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
They have that ability and do it. BUT the programming has had some serious errors for different conditions. When the X first came out there were a bunch of people stuck at Tahoe with them. Now, a bunch of them came up with tires very much not suited for the conditions and no amount of

[AFMUG] huawei

2019-11-22 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/fcc-bans-usf-recipients-from-buying-huawei-zte/ "The FCC is acting on its vow to keep Chinese technology out of American wireless networks . Commissioners have unanimously

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert Andrews
no, a 2018 when the 2019s are out... A matter of months. I got 20K off a Ram because of that. On 11/22/2019 09:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year? Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell remarkably bad. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes probably is missing a variety of features one is used to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
As I said it's not 30, you're 10% higher than that. That's retail price for a base model Tundra. I'm sure it's a great truck but it's apples and oranges. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
The DVRs and cameras are Hikvision...this is a CCTV one. With 21 cameras...we have three NVRs with about 30 cameras at offices. On buses we have converted almost all CCTV to IP and use Cradlepoint routers for remote monitoring by supervisors. Vans have mobile DVR equipped Verizon sim cards with

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "Mathew Howard" , "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50. On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: That's $32,780... On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes > wrote: That’s the current model. Here’s the bill of sale: image1.jpeg On Nov 22,

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
IOGear...best buy store On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 11:35 AM wrote: > Nice, who makes the video system shown there? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 11:30 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference > > Have a 5Ghz

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
The bottom row No Video, No Video, No Video, No Link, I was half expecting the last one to be No Quid Pro Quo or No Collusion. Or maybe No Coke, Pepsi! No Fries, Chips! From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Building owner did Lorex. REALLY nice and super cheap. Straight to their servers, no public IPs or NAT to deal with, you simply open the app and point to the barcode on the unit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
10%? I don't think it's that bad on the bombed NSX. Let alone a truck. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:07 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Dealers often have incentives to move X number of vehicles to close out

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
HiKVision is Jaimie's goto. I have used them several times on his recommendation. It has worked really well. I use a couple of the 16 channel units for my storage place. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:35 PM wrote: > Nice, who makes the video system shown there? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
Dealers often have incentives to move X number of vehicles to close out a month/quarter/whatever. When this happens, they will sometimes sell a vehicle (or two, or more) at a loss in order to gain the incentives. bp On 11/22/2019 10:56 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Supposedly, their computer can manage the slippage on a per-wheel basis to get any traction that might be available instead of blind power. Supposedly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Iperf Help

2019-11-22 Thread Matt
This seems to do what I wanted for most part. server> iperf3 -s -V client> iperf3 -c x.x.x.x -i 1 -t 60 -V -u -b .2M Another neat tool: https://github.com/orf/gping On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:26 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > > fping is a lot better to parse with > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space? Steve, Could reach out to provider and see if you could rent those addresses?  Cogent has offered me reasonable rental rates on IPv4 several times. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Right I've bought vehicles as well, but I don't see how you could have gotten it for 10%-20% less than list for new. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:09 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
With the torque of electric motors, probably no snow tires in the world would be enough, maybe convert to tracks. From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck It's up on their website now. A winch, my life for

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I seem to remember back around 2005 having an arrangement to continue using IP blocks from an upstream (Norlight aka KDL aka Windstream) of a WISP we bought, we got the least expensive connection available from them which was a T1 line. Allegedly as a backup, but in fact we didn’t use it, it

Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I really don’t view it as an optional feature. The way the Traco BCM works is that it controls the voltage of the power supply so rather than the nominal voltage like 24 or 48 volts, it is set to the proper voltage to charge the battery, like 28 or 56 volts. It comes with a little 2 wire

Re: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference

2019-11-22 Thread chuck
Nice, who makes the video system shown there? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 11:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Quick solution against interference Have a 5Ghz fixed frequency HDMI video system set up to extend surveillance monitoring to

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Jaime Solorza
I just saw it and a screen we use to monitor weather and headlines. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 8:26 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was everyone > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your pre-orders? > > > > I think I saw one comment that it

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
I walked in. Said I want that truck, here’s a check. Sales guy got the paperwork. I left with the truck. Very simple. > On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for $30k, Especially with > options. There's no way they're

Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert

2019-11-22 Thread Adam Moffett
I think temperature compensation.  BCM signals TSP to adjust voltage. I assume the AC alarm comes through that link cable too. On 11/22/2019 12:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: What am I missing not using the TSP power supply and remote link? *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Matt *Sent:* Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert

2019-11-22 Thread Sterling Jacobson
What am I missing not using the TSP power supply and remote link? From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 9:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert So what is the remote link for? On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 7:56 AM Josh Baird

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year? Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell remarkably bad. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert wrote: > Last year lot sitter,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert
Last year lot sitter, sure On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for $30k,  Especially with options.  There's no way they're doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k when I see the

Re: [AFMUG] Iperf Help

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
fping is a lot better to parse with Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:44 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > ping -i .2 -s 1400 -f -c 300 x.x.x.x > > > On 11/21/2019 7:31 PM, Matt wrote: > > I need to test for latency

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for $30k, Especially with options. There's no way they're doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k when I see the bill of sale. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert
LOL, no house in or around central california, where these are going to be built is under 10X the price for your house. On 11/22/19 8:12 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah,,, my first house was $12,000 My first car was a $35 rambler that had been through a flood and had to be fixed.

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Adam Moffett
The community that already has IPv6 done and is preaching to it's own choir. On 11/22/2019 11:59 AM, Steve Jones wrote: what community is that? On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:52 AM Mike Hammett > wrote: The consensus of the community is that the cost of trying to

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/22/19 8:59 AM, Steve Jones wrote: what community is that? ARIN-PPML is the mailing list where policy gets discussed. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Steve Jones
what community is that? On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:52 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > The consensus of the community is that the cost of trying to reclaim and > gather unused space is more than to stop fucking off and get IPv6 done. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert
It's up on their website now.   A winch, my life for a winch. But that with 500 mile range for 60K and I could replace the power wagon with it...   Specially with and additional 6 inches of clearance and nothing to block snow under the body, so it would slide on top easier.   It might just

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mathew Howard
I assume they're going to need a while lot more than 100 or 110kwh might be enough to get 250 miles of range out of that thing, but the top end one is supposed to get 500+ miles. I'm guessing that's going to be more like a 200kwh battery pack. It's gotta be a whole lot heavier than a Model 3 or a

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
The consensus of the community is that the cost of trying to reclaim and gather unused space is more than to stop fucking off and get IPv6 done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Steve Jones
Ive moved from Wesleyan to Matts Tavern. A better class of student. We have our /22 request in, I wish they would let us just take those 4 idle /24. Im tempted to use them in the interim. Its about 20-22k to buy a /22, or 2k/year til the decade is up for IP6 mainstream adoption. That would buy

Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

2019-11-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/15/19 2:26 AM, Timothy Steele wrote: it allows categories and subcategories I have it set up like a forum I get that at a certain scale that makes sense, but for me AFMUG is at its peak usefulness as general discussion and I've learned more here than anywhere else where knowledge is

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/22/19 7:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd.  Was everyone suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place your pre-orders? It looks like Cyberpunk 2077 product placement. If you're not into gaming, Cyberpunk 2077 is a game coming out next

Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert

2019-11-22 Thread Matt
So what is the remote link for? On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 7:56 AM Josh Baird wrote: > So you're not taking advantage of one of the most compelling reasons to > use the TSP+BCM combo. > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:51 AM Sterling Jacobson > wrote: > >> I don’t use the remote link, or the TSP PS

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
Back in the day I had a /24 from Sprint that was still assigned to me. The long and short is that it is possible, and at the least convenient time they will rip it back. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:09 AM wrote: > Steve, you still an adjunct professor of Women and Gender Studies at > Wesleyan? >

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
My 2017 GMC Denali HD2500 was $72K I think. It doesn't have everything, but it is close. I think one with everything this year is closer to $85k On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:19 AM Bill Prince wrote: > My parents bought their house in Minnesota for ~~ $17K back in 1967. > When we sold it in the

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
My parents bought their house in Minnesota for ~~ $17K back in 1967. When we sold it in the early 2000s it was over $3/4 million. bp On 11/22/2019 8:12 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah,,, my first house was $12,000 My first car was a $35 rambler that had been through a flood and had to be

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread chuck
Yeah,,, my first house was $12,000 My first car was a $35 rambler that had been through a flood and had to be fixed. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Bill Prince Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
The $30K truck market is clearly not where this truck is aimed. My F-150 had an MSRP of a bit over $50K. Out the door was a lot less than that, but once sales tax was added, it ended up close to $50K again. It's not a "fancy" truck by any means (it's an XLT which

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread chuck
Steve, you still an adjunct professor of Women and Gender Studies at Wesleyan? From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space? We have our own /22 and requested another, we are purchasing if the

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
I’m well aware of what a truck costs. We purchased a new Tundra two years ago. Plenty of power. 4x4. $30k out the door. > On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Go to a lot and see what trucks cost. They're not cheap. I know three people > that have fairly nothing special

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Go to a lot and see what trucks cost. They're not cheap. I know three people that have fairly nothing special trucks that were $50k - $55k. 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 4-door. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is way too much. We purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago for $30k... outfitted well. On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long as the performance, specifications,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
I purchased a $30k Tundra. $40 is getting high, $50 is ridiculous for a truck - especially a work truck that will get beat up. My house only cost $59,000. No way I'm paying that amount for a truck that will be gone in 5-10 years. On 11/22/19 10:32 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I can't say that

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Right. I assumed motors and drive time were not related, but the specifics aren't published. Some meaningful comparison of range to charge time to towing range to... A lot of that can be approximated once more specs are out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
I was underwhelemed... On 11/22/19 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd.  Was everyone suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place your pre-orders? I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an El Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti $379 router

2019-11-22 Thread Matt Hoppes
Are we talking about the Nightmare Machine? On 11/22/19 10:31 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Seriously?  So over $1000 once you buy 3 of them for a mesh network? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Darin Steffl
I'm not a big fan of the design but the specs are amazing, especially the prices for how fast and powerful these are. Now Tesla will not be producing these for at least 2 more years, end of 2021 and the fastest one end of 2022. They reason they don't announce anything about the batteries is

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti $379 router

2019-11-22 Thread Darin Steffl
Calix Gigaspire is a much better deal and can actually be managed by the ISP. We're sticking with the GigaCenter while everyone works out the WiFi 6 bugs. It's not ready for primetime On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:31 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Seriously? So over $1000 once you buy 3 of them for a

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
The range(s) were listed as 200-500 depending on battery pack. The extra motors add power, but don't make a significant impact on mileage (or as much as you might think). You can see this in the various models S, X, and Y; more motors doesn't really impact range

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long as the performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as promised, I care much less about how it appears. That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the $50k to have AWD. I've seen people say stuff like,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
I can't say that I like the looks of the thing, but the specs look impressive if they hold up to reality. I have an F-150, with at least a few more years left in it. So sometime I might be looking to replace it. A $50K truck is not abnormal at all these days, and

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti $379 router

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Seriously? So over $1000 once you buy 3 of them for a mesh network? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Craig Schmaderer
With a few changes to the design it could be a lot better, I do not think that will make it to production, the model 3 changed quite a bit before it was out. Most likely that is why they only made the preorder $100 From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 9:26 AM To:

[AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was everyone suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your pre-orders? I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an El Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not what I expected when I heard Tesla was

Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server

2019-11-22 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Most of all my groups have now switched over to discord…. From: AF On Behalf Of Timothy Steele Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 4:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Started a WISP discord server it allows categories and subcategories I have it set up like a forum

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Steve Jones
We have our own /22 and requested another, we are purchasing if the list doesnt move much in 6months. I just thought it was odd theyre still there. Theyre just sitting there like an ugly girl waiting to be used On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:12 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > I do want to note that if

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Mike Hammett
I do want to note that if you're an ISP (chances are high that you are if you're on this list). You do want your IP space to be reallocated, not reassigned. I meant "you" generically, not specific to Steve. Technically, as long as the RIR thinks you're in charge of the IP space, it's

Re: [AFMUG] can we use reassigned IP space?

2019-11-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The /24 would probably work as long as you can get your upstream to agree not to filter it - or you might just stomp on somebody else if the carrier reassigned it to someone else. Probably not a good long term plan for customer use in any case since the original carrier may reclaim them at

Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert

2019-11-22 Thread Josh Baird
So you're not taking advantage of one of the most compelling reasons to use the TSP+BCM combo. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:51 AM Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I don’t use the remote link, or the TSP PS units. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:17

Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert

2019-11-22 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I don’t use the remote link, or the TSP PS units. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48 Volt Battery Revert I wouldn’t think the Mean Well power supply would be compatible with the remote link