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year until these services mature. On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am considering trying Sony on the Roku. I already have Sling TV and > have tried several others. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 4:39 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

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I’m wondering why I didn’t think of that before :) Thanks! > On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:07 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > Makes a huge difference > > > On Oct 16, 2016 5:52 PM, "Paul Stewart" > wrote: > Hmm… now that’s interesting … let me try wired sometime

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I am considering trying Sony on the Roku. I already have Sling TV and have tried several others. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" I have my Roku attached to a switch that uses an NS2M to connect to our

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Makes a huge difference On Oct 16, 2016 5:52 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > Hmm… now that’s interesting … let me try wired sometime just for fun …. > > > On Oct 16, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I have my Roku attached to a switch that uses an NS2M to connect to our > house WAP. Works f

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Hmm… now that’s interesting … let me try wired sometime just for fun …. > On Oct 16, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I have my Roku attached to a switch that uses an NS2M to connect to our house > WAP. Works fine. > > So maybe they have a crappy WiFi interface? > > > bp > > > On

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Yeah I’m unique as I’m told often haha ;) For content like Netflix, it’s all on-net via cache clusters … Plex is local via wifi (and it’s not wifi - I tested it thoroughly to make sure) …. the other app (IPTV from competitor) they say they have very few issues but in their customer forums it se

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I have my Roku attached to a switch that uses an NS2M to connect to our house WAP. Works fine. So maybe they have a crappy WiFi interface? bp On 10/16/2016 2:37 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Roku on wireless is questionable, mine is wired, On Oct 16, 2016 4:07 PM, "Paul Stewart"

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4:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" How close are you, network wise, to the various CDNs that these would use? You are literally the first person I have talked to that had problems with a roku. On Oct 16, 2016 4:07 PM, "Paul Stewart" < p...@paulstewart.org > wr

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Roku on wireless is questionable, mine is wired, On Oct 16, 2016 4:07 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > See that’s kinda funny for me… I have several Roku boxes and my experience > with all of them has been garbage…. > > Netflix is probably the most dependable app but even with it I’ve had some > weir

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How close are you, network wise, to the various CDNs that these would use? You are literally the first person I have talked to that had problems with a roku. On Oct 16, 2016 4:07 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > See that’s kinda funny for me… I have several Roku boxes and my experience > with all of

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See that’s kinda funny for me… I have several Roku boxes and my experience with all of them has been garbage…. Netflix is probably the most dependable app but even with it I’ve had some weird things go on … Plex I have issues with every so often (audio out of sync for example). When I try the

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? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 7:16 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" LOL On Oct 15, 2016 6:51 PM, "Robert Andrews" <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: As the o

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. http://www.techhive.com/article/3047812/streaming-services/playstation-vue-faq-everything-to-know-about-sony-s-cable-tv-alternative.html From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buff

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Reynolds > *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:17 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > > Roku and FireTV are the best, by far. Roku has more channels, firetv has > more app capability (android). > > AppleTV streams like shit compared to

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There's an android discovery app. On Oct 16, 2016 3:32 PM, wrote: > So far Sony PS Vue or whatever it is called is the only OTC that has > Discovery and related channels. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:17 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com

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So far Sony PS Vue or whatever it is called is the only OTC that has Discovery and related channels. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Roku and FireTV are the best, by far. Roku has more channels, firet

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Roku and FireTV are the best, by far. Roku has more channels, firetv has more app capability (android). AppleTV streams like shit compared to those two. On Oct 16, 2016 11:20 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Roku is just an amazing nail on the head device. I still run the old xd it > still

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1:47:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Have they been using them since they started the streaming product? On Oct 16, 2016 11:44 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: DirecTV's CDN is Level 3. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing So

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Better antenna technology. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:26:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffe

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hem off for nonpayment in a couple months and trying to get our router back. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" What are you recommending on routers now Ken?

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- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:53:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" It depends what

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WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:28:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Running cable takes work and people are lazy. (I have a bunch of OM4 I need to run and 2 boxes of cat6 sitting there, so I can&

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om/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Joe Novak" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:59:14 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > In a lot of the early smart TVs - even some of the ne

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DirecTV's CDN is Level 3. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Joe Novak" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:59:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffe

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Roku is just an amazing nail on the head device. I still run the old xd it still updates, the apps still update, it's got the supported dev channels. That's probably one of the most elegantly perfect pieces of electronic in my home On Oct 16, 2016 10:49 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > The problem wit

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The problem with whatever app is on the TV (or if there is an app), is that if the TV is more than 1 year old, it will never be updated again. The Netflix app on our (now) 5 year old LG is a poor example of how Netflix should actually work (or any of the online streaming services for that matt

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o the big > screens. Why spend all that money and then cheap out by using WiFi, > especially since that 60 inch TV isn’t exactly portable unless it’s on wheels. > > > >   <> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On > Behal

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ust be legal because I bought a box. And for > tech support, call your ISP. > > > >   <> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:54 PM > > > To: af@afmug

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McCown" <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: > I read the word “Netflix” and my brain received “Netscape”. Talk about a > confusing moment... > > From: CBB - Jay Fuller <> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM > To: af@afmug.com <> > Subj

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Worked fine in Thunderbird... On 10/15/16 6:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: For me too. I use an email client. One of my kids think I am a dinosaur for doing so. *From:* Jason McKemie *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Sh

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For me too. I use an email client. One of my kids think I am a dinosaur for doing so. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Showed up as animated here. On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wro

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g Outlook now? > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 7:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > > > LOL > > > > On Oct 15, 2016 6:51

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alf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:48 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> I read the word “Netflix” and my brain received “Netscape”. Talk about a >> confusing moment... >> >> *From:*CB

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] "buffering" I read the word “Netflix” and my brain received “Netscape”. Talk about a confusing moment... *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller *Sent:*Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" I have a smart tv that works

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My networking lab in the basement is wired :P On Oct 15, 2016 4:49 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > My house is cat5 wired :) > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Josh Reynolds" > To: > Subject: [AF

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that. I will say the hAP AC is probably not very competitive at its price point. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Honestly I find the wireless p

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My house is cat5 wired :) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: Subject: [AFMUG] "buffering" Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2016 1:28 PM Running cable takes work and people are lazy. (I have a bunch of OM4 I need to run and 2 b

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The homegamers don't get that Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: Subject: [AFMUG] "buffering" Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2016 1:23 PM I’m still waiting to run into a customer with a media library to justify the $400 Wi

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for nonpayment in a couple months > and trying to get our router back. > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Joe Novak > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:31 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "bufferi

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nt in a couple months and trying to get our router back. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Novak *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:31 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" What are you recommending on routers now Ken? Our spiel usually incl

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months and trying to get our router back. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" What are you recommending on routers now Ken? Our spiel usually includes n

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using WiFi, > especially since that 60 inch TV isn’t exactly portable unless it’s on > wheels. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Novak > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:09 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG

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ailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Novak > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:09 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > > > It makes me sad that Kodi got associated with all of the nonsense. It's a > beautiful media center fro

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. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" It makes me sad that Kodi got associated with all of the nonsense. It's a beautiful media center front end. I actu

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my brain received “Netscape”. Talk about a >> confusing moment... >> >> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" >> >> >> I have a smart tv th

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lug it in and get free live TV. Must be legal because I bought > a box. And for tech support, call your ISP. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:54 PM > > *To:* af@afm

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box. And for tech support, call your ISP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Don't forget these rooted amazon firesticks are dominating rig

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I was visualizing a smart TV with a Netscape interface. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" After he updated Netscape he got Firefox which evolved to Chrome. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552

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confusing moment... > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > > I have a smart tv that works fine but won't update. It is an earlier > Netflix interface but I actua

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a > confusing moment... > > *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > > I have a smart tv that works fine but won't update. It is an earlier > Netflix interface

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I read the word “Netflix” and my brain received “Netscape”. Talk about a confusing moment... From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" I have a smart tv that works fine but won't update. It is an

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Do you have strings attached to the vertical hold knob so you can stop the picture from rolling without getting up from the couch? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buff

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I have a smart tv that works fine but won't update. It is an earlier Netflix interface but I actually like it better than the modern interface. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: Subject: [AFMUG] "buffering" D

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Of *Joe Novak *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:59 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" In a lot of the early smart TVs - even some of the new ones - the netflix 'smart' modulation did not work well if at all. The Roku's and streaming boxes usually

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...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" In a lot of the early smart TVs - even some of the new ones - the netflix 'smart' modulation did not work well if at all. The Roku's and stre

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low. I was tempted to tell her the airplane symbol actually meant her > Internet was really fast (it’s flying), otherwise it would show a car or a > turtle. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Saturday, October 15, 2

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. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" I presume the circle thing is spinning when people say buffering. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:34

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I presume the circle thing is spinning when people say buffering. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m wondering if when a customer talks about “buffering”, he re

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I think it's both, and if you need to know, I guess you need to ask. bp On 10/14/2016 6:49 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: When people say their video is �buffering�, I assume they mean re-buffering, where the video stops and starts. I�m starting to wonder if some people are referring to the

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I “only” have 35Meg down x 11 Meg up at my home (VDSL + 10 meg 320 wireless) …. less than 10 miles away the city nearby has 1G service available to every home (about 100k people) … I don’t know the actual “uptake” on the 1G service but have heard it’s significant … 1G unlimited service (1G down

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Yes On Oct 14, 2016 10:47 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Is that sarcasm or serious? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 10:18 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

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Is that sarcasm or serious? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" Because you porn and xnxx say buffering when they pause to buffer On Oct 14, 20

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I think they do that pretty seamlessly now. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 9:09 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] "buffering" > > > > Well, people certainly w

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expect rebuffering because it’s been years since Netflix needed to stop and rebuffer at a lower stream rate, I think they do that pretty seamlessly now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 9:09 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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Well, people certainly want connections that support multiple streams. Paying for it, I'm not so sure about... at least around these parts. On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Have you ever seen a 1080p youtube video load on a 1GbE active-E FTTH ISP > that has direct peering w

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Have you ever seen a 1080p youtube video load on a 1GbE active-E FTTH ISP that has direct peering with Google from a router 2.5ms upstream? It's a beautiful thing. People will absolutely pay for connections that support multiple streams, take a typical family of 4 or 5 people with kids that want

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When people say their video is "buffering", I assume they mean re-buffering, where the video stops and starts. I'm starting to wonder if some people are referring to the delay before the video starts playing. Is this a thing? And do people pay for faster Internet just to make the video start