Re: [EVDL] Import EV [Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.]

There was a kind of a Canadian loophole for this as Canada had the same thing but it was 15 years instead of 25.    So if you could get it into Canada at 15 years old, thenif people didn't look too closely, you could re-import it into the US as a Canadian vehicle.    B.C used to put on their

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

It works that way because when you plug in a USB device it sends some data that tells the host what type of device you have.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Device_classes Most likely your phone identified as a hard drive (mass storage device) or a media device (MTP)  and it started playing

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

Ditto On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 01:57:07 PM PDT, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Sorry about that David.  I'll try and remember to trim my replies in the future. (Starting with this one)  Appreciate your vigilance and work on the list! -Phil -- next part --

Re: [EVDL] Why Root? (was Adding a FM radio to a Tesla)

That's an excellent point.    I know next to nothing about Tesla hardware, but it looks like ARM hardware which has protection, so as far as I can see running a stupidbackgammon game as root, and everything else for that matter is not exactly confidence inspiring.    What's more, that

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

How would I do it?   Well, first of all with Linux you do have the source code.    That is probably a good reason  why it'sgood because people can fix bugs. Then there is what software you choose to run.    It you allow anything written by anybody, sure you will have problems, but even then

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

That's such a defeatist attitude.   Memory leaks aren't inevitable and there are lots of tools to find them.    It's the result of shoddy, lazy programming, not some fact of nature.      Howevercomplicated you think the Tesla software is, the Linux OS is much bigger project and more complicated

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

We have 240 volt systems of course (stove/dryer and less common nema 6-15 etc..). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think at least some of the non-us households ONLY have 240 volts (i.e they don't bring 480 into the panel and have split transformers like we have but rather they groundone leg

Re: [EVDL] Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array

My AHJ nor my brothers did not enforce it so we've had a different experience.   On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 10:45:01 PM PDT, (-Phil-) wrote: The NEC definitely accounts for this since 2011, and I know from experience AHJs enforce it.   (705.12 D 2) There are 2 ways:1. Derate:

Re: [EVDL] Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array

I'm going to chime in with a point.   Probably plenty all ready know it, but maybe some don't. Virtually all home solar is actually kind of technically violating some electrical rules.   The reason is thatbreakers were not intended to be used to back feed power, but that is the easiest way, so

Re: [EVDL] Rental giant Hertz dumps EVs, including Teslas, for gas cars | Reuters

Good point.    The "Gizmo"  EV steering was 2 levers on the floor,  I guess like some trikes. I remember the quote from the Tanenbaum  book"The great thing about standards is there are just so many to choose from.".. On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 05:59:43 PM PST, Lee Hart via EV

Re: [EVDL] Rental giant Hertz dumps EVs, including Teslas, for gas cars | Reuters

Stopgiving...them...ideas On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 9:39:14 AM PST, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: Making vehicles with intuitive control layout is a safety feature. Maybe Tesla will switch the brake and accelerator pedals just to be "unique"?

Re: [EVDL] Rental giant Hertz dumps EVs, including Teslas, for gas cars | Reuters

Meh...It's too small of a sample and far too early to say whether "The Market" has decided.   The good news is EV's in general are doing prettywell and obviously we have a pretty diverse range of strong opinions on user interfaces.    I think it's perfectly fair to disagree on what is

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Cybertruck buyer's remorse not allowed?

> Would or will YOU agree to it? Kind of reminds me of this.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUPOvcolNZg -- If we don't halt population growth with justice and compassion, it will be done for us by nature, brutally and without pity - and will leave a ravaged world. Nobel Laureate Dr.

Re: [EVDL] California solicits applications for $40 million in NEVI EV charging grants

Honestly I think slow charging during daylight hours at places of work or shopping could be more appreciated. Since solar is becoming more and more popular, it makes sense to charge the car during the daylight hours at work. If you are going to promote something... On Saturday,

Re: [EVDL] Smaller is not really cheaper (was: Tesla slashes its car prices as much as 20% to prop up sagging sales, where?s the $30K EV? A Chevy Bolt?)

Sure, I mostly agree, but EV's do change that more than ICE, because with a car and a given range and given wind resistance, the larger car will take significantly more batteries to achieve the same range, and since batteries are a major expense and more a commoditiy, it does cost significantly

Re: [EVDL] Do EVs make green sense?

Where do you think these idiots get their information about how much energy it takes to build a car...or the "carbon footprint"?   If you are actually trying to measure "energy" you need to be able to isolate what you are actually measuring. Where do you draw the line about how much energy

Re: [EVDL] Think City noisy heater blower

Didn't the Think used to have a problem with the heater?   I vaguely recall something about the heater circuit bricking Thinks.Thought it had something to do with the high voltage circuit and the inductance of the heater coil, and quickly turning the keyon and off but I can't recall the

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

was 2008. Eberhard and Tarpenning left the company before the Roadster before they shipped the first Roadster (February 2008) to Musk. Musk took over CEO in October of 2008. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 10:45:11 AM CST, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: Why did Musk buy Tesla r

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

took over CEO in October of 2008. On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 10:45:11 AM CST, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: Why did Musk buy Tesla rather than create a car company on his own from scratch?     On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 08:26:25 AM PST, Michael Ross via EV wrote: 

Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS

Why did Musk buy Tesla rather than create a car company on his own from scratch? On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 08:26:25 AM PST, Michael Ross via EV wrote: "Musk isn't a real engineer, and without engineers, Tesla dies." As a manufacturing, and electromrchanical product design

Re: [EVDL] Battery breakthrough?

I'm not chemist, but I would suspect that batteries go "bad" for lots of different reasons.    I know a few tidbits here and there, but it seems in general chemicalreactions are not perfectly reversable because of unwanted byproducts and side effects.   I don't believe this can ever be

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

1, 2022 at 7:07 PM Robert Johnston via EV > wrote: > > > Don't salvaged and repaired cars need a safety inspection before they can > > be put back on the road and registered/insured? > > > > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 at 20:48, Lawrence Winiarski via EV < >

Re: [EVDL] Goodbye old friend.

Hmwould gas stations refuse to give gas to salvaged cars because the gas station might "burn down"? On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 04:15:20 PM PST, paul dove via EV wrote: That is not bricking a car! It will charge just not on. Supercharger. This is to protect superchargers

Re: [EVDL] Loud boom.! Ford F150 bricked at Electrify AMERICA

Don't know anymore details, I'm in Oregon and I saw this happened in "Newport Oregon" which is directly on the Oregon Coast.   I think thesechargers are within spitting distance of the ocean. Lot's of rain/salt/wind here especially .  Tough environment for outside electrical connections

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

I know this will sound like sacrilege on EVDL, but does it really make sense to have battery powered Semitrailer trucks?    Isn't it kind of carryingthings a little too far?  On a practical note, a lot of electricity is met on the grid with natural gas generators for demand as they can be

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

IMHO... EV's are not long distance vehiclesthey are commuter vehicles. PV provides lots of peak power during the day, zero at night It would be a good idea to promote EV charging with PV during the day. Where are commuter vehicles during the day?   Probably at work. Seems that it would be

Re: [EVDL] solar panels over parking lots, duh

Underground?   Parking garages?  Trees???  Nearby Skyscrapers? I like solar, but...I'm nervous of bureaucrats making arbitrary decisions.   On Wednesday, November 16, 2022, 7:27:27 PM PST, paul dove via EV wrote: I’ve said that’s what we should do for years now! It makes

Re: [EVDL] BMS question

For just a few batteries, I'd look at what the Radio Control guys use.    I think they have built in BMS and some are programmable.Being as you are only going to have 4 (for 12 volt trolling), I think you could get a complete solution cheap.    I think they use differentterminology like "4S"

Re: [EVDL] Will this gizmo let my EV conversion talk to a J-1772

Yes.but RV's can have a weird problem.    When operating in stand alone mode (i.e. self supported and not connected to the grid)  they often act like a house in that the inverter/generator makes its own 120|240 and therefore the ground and neutral are often bonded together (at one

Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

Bill Dube ->  Do you mean the solvent is flammable?  UggThat could be a big problem.   Do you know what is used?   Lee Hart ->  I'm sure that would add to the difficulty, but still I would think anything that makes the battery "less" of a batteryand more of a chunk of plastic and foil

Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

I had an idea once.   Dump the electrolyte in a fire.   That stops the battery reaction and stops the fire.   I'd bet you could make a heat sensitive relief valve (at the bottom) and as the battery heats up, it would dump the electrolyte (which is getting hot anyway and would eitherpour via

Re: [EVDL] LRR Tires: Research tips?

Hmmm...I'm not a car guy, but isn't the point of the large diameter wheels for low profile tires for high speed cornering?  In a racing car, as you go around the corner, the sidewalls flex because of the centrifugal force that they must transport to the car By using low profile tires and

Re: [EVDL] Solectria Force - Lithium Batteries

I've got 48 100ah batteries,  I believe 16 in front, 32 in back. On Thursday, May 14, 2020, 12:39:49 AM PDT, Billy Caruso via EV wrote: Hey folks - Does anyone drive a 1990's Solectria Force? If so - what is your battery setup. I'm looking at bringing one back to life - it currently

Re: [EVDL] Communicating over "mains" (Was: Minibms?)

Well, perhaps I'm wrong.   I suppose no one can see the future.   But riddle me this :-).   Suppose you run a single wire out to 150 different batteries andyou have a good system.   Suppose ONE of those 300 different connections goes bad... Wouldn't it be nice to be able to .even if

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 90, Issue 36

Isn't  "Wide Band Noise" what RF guys overcome every day?   The reason you tune a radio is to ignore the 50 million otherchannels and the sun/jupiter/everyelectronicdevice known to man and concentrate on your own.. I can use my cell phone in my EV just fine.   If noise was really

Re: [EVDL] Communicating over "mains" (Was: Minibms?)

So by SAFETY system, what do you want to do?   I guess I only see two things A.   Stop the Car.B.   Stop the Charger. Suppose you queried 1 time per second.  Suppose you got 3600 good readings then ONE bad one (or failed to get one), then started getting good ones again, would you really want to

Re: [EVDL] Communicating over "mains" (Was: Minibms?)

Let me play devils advocate.    If it was so hard, then why does my cell phone/radio/satellite work?   They pickup microvolts out of the air and work pretty well.   I'm communicating my email to a tower 10 miles away.  I'm doing itwith 2 watts!   That's pretty amazing. the bypass resistor can

Re: [EVDL] Communicating over "mains" (Was: Minibms?)

something like CRC to guarantee validity. On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 4:54:11 PM PDT, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: Awesome. I like the idea of the transmitter in the charger, but it would also be cool to make it an add-on with an existing charger.   I would think you

Re: [EVDL] Communicating over "mains" (Was: Minibms?)

S communication, this helps quite a bit. During these times they can "scream" to the inverter to stop for a moment so they can give details about the problem. Just a thought     Bill D. On 4/29/2020 9:35 AM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: >> Because there are no "m

Re: [EVDL] Minibms?

> Because there are no "mains" in a vehicle.??? Is it really "That" Noisy?   I suspect it is very doable, it's just that no one has done it yet.The trick is probably using signal processing to get rid of the noise and doing extremelylow bit rates, which is fine for a BMS.    Ham radio guys can

Re: [EVDL] Minibms?

Anyone know anything about data over powerlines?   Why can't the BMS communicate over the mains?   On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, 1:55:18 PM PDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > My fantasy BMS would be to have the cell modules communicate with the > downstream

Re: [EVDL] Minibms?

I think I understand the history.    I need to have a few for myself,  (I'd like around 20) but beyond that It seems ultimately we should make a PCB gerber file and opensource it for v2?  Seems a reasonable start.    Mr Sharkey:   Are you in Oregon?   I live in Monroe Oregon. On

Re: [EVDL] Minibms?

Hi Willie.   I think we are serious about those boards.   How do we pay you?   Are they still in working order?   On Monday, April 27, 2020, 12:52:49 PM PDT, Willie via EV wrote: On 4/27/20 2:25 PM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > I'd be glad to relate any info that helps you get

Re: [EVDL] Minibms?

I'd love to get some.   I have a use for 20 cell boards and perhaps a head board.lawrence_winiarski    at  yankee alpha hotel oscar oscar dot charlie oscar mike On Monday, April 27, 2020, 1:16:51 PM PDT, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: I sense a beautiful online relationship in the making

Re: [EVDL] Minibms?

Funny.    That's exactly what went wrong.    I have a few optorelays in my ebay cart as we speak. Yes, I'll repair,  extend the same offer to you if you get decide to get rid of yours. :-) I've got the old schematic for v.2 which seems to be about right.   Don't know anything about v3 or what

[EVDL] Minibms?

Hi.   I had a few minibms boards quit working and I was wondering if anyone had made a dropin alternative or had some that they might want to sell. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] custom battery

Isn't 60c or 100C common in Radio Control stuff now? Lots of solutions there. On Monday, April 13, 2020, 9:51:43 PM PDT, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Nominally 240. But it really can be anything and I can convert it to what I need. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Alan

Re: [EVDL] Tesla...Can you imagine what could have happened?

Well if the Idea of Homicidal, Petroleum producers, having control of the EV industry doesn't bother you How do you feel about the Tobacco Institute taking over Cancer Research? From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV To: "ev@lists.evdl.org" Cc: Lawrence Rhodes Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018

Re: [EVDL] Tesla...Can you imagine what could have happened?

Yeah it was 5%.and they were allegedly saying that they could buy a whole bunch more... enough to make Tesla private. From only a few weeks agohere's some Saudi Info. https://www.tesla.com/BLOG/update-taking-tesla-private All I was saying is I think it was a damn good thing for  Tesla

[EVDL] Tesla...Can you imagine what could have happened?

Musk was just last month trying to sell it to the Saudi's..in a deal that allegedly fell through .Now with them killing a Washington Post Journalist and Saudi Arabian princes looking more like the mafia than anelectric car savior I think Tesla and Elon Musk might have nearly

Re: [EVDL] EVtax: $150yr

to a large number of people. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Lawrence Winiarski via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Lawrence Winiarski" ; "EVDL Administrator" Sent: 15-Oct-18 5:27:01 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVtax: $150yr >

Re: [EVDL] EVtax: $150yr

I think it's politics. Mississippi's gas tax hasn't been raised since 1989!!!.    Only Alaska's tax (1970's era) is older.   At $18.79 centsit's also the 4th lowest in the country.   (average is about 31 cents) Now they are having some real problems.  Across the state, residents now have to

Re: [EVDL] EVtax: $150yr

$75??.What a crock for someone with a slightly different engine?  C'mon get a backbone you Mississipussy-stockholm-syndrome-loving-le-priusssissiessidentifying with your abusers??well I feel I'm getting a good deal from my kidnappers in terms of all the gruel I'm gettingat least

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Why Electric Cars Are Ditching AM Radio

I'm just kind of learning this, so take the following with lot's of salt.comments and criticism welcome   Seems to me the problem is that they are leaking high frequency noise in the AM spectrum and NOT in theFM. Not an expert, but academically, seems to me a good Faraday cage and more

Re: [EVDL] Elon Musk: I don't like you, so SPACEX won't be providing the return trip...

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Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

More herehttp://smdp.com/police-pepper-spray-santa-monica-man-park-dispute/147521 http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2015/April-2015/04_29_2015_Attorney_Claims_Super-Aggressive_Santa_Monica_Officers_Roughed_Up_Client.html In the article, the police claim the charging

Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

More here.. http://santamonicapd.org/Content.aspx?id=52058 From: Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Peri Hartman pe...@kotatko.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed,

Re: [EVDL] Charging-EVr PD-assaulted pushed, handcuffed, punched, pepper-sprayed +

  Then, even if making a mistake, why all the aggressive action?  Thanks, Bruce, for bringing this to attention (though I suspect this will be all over the headlines). Peri It apparently happened last Tuesday.I wouldn't hold your breath.    Unfortunately this sort of stuff happens every

Re: [EVDL] Toyota FCV (fuel cell vehicle)

my 2 cents:  Seems to me that using methane to make H2 to run in a car isn't very compelling. Why bother since it is so easy to just use a CNG car?  Even if it was a few percentage pointsmore efficient..and that's far from certain,  It doesn't seem worth it.   If you really cared

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

I think Harbor Freight just announced that their new self driving kit's will be available next summer for $299.95  (not counting the 20% off coupons).   It comes with 2 chicago-electric servo's and a hi-tech camera. On top of all that, it comes with a genuine lifetime warranty.

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

Yeah, Maybe these same people would accept some sort of artificial intelligence program which would analyse their facebook postingsand social media and automatically vote for them in elections. If they will trust their lives going 70 mph to some computer algorithm by some nameless

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Yeah, Maybe these same people would accept some sort of artificial intelligence program which would analyse their facebook postingsand social media and automatically vote for them in elections

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

4:30 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] self driving cars You mean Diebold? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lawrence Winiarski via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Yeah, Maybe these same people would accept some sort of artificial intelligence program which would analyse

Re: [EVDL] self driving cars

  Here's the elephant in the room that I haven't seen addressed: When a self-driving car is involved in a fatal accident, who pays? Who goes to jail? Depends on whether the car had alcohol in it's fuel beyond the legal limit whether it goes to jail or not.    Of course for EV's the car can be

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

I wonder why motorcycle tires are so much worse. Bicycle tires are obviously very good. What is different about motorcycle tires. Is there some fundamental reason for the higher rolling resistance, or is it just that the manufacturers don't bother (and customers don't care)? Not 100%

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CA testing 55+mpge mi-based/VMT road-tax-fees aimed@ plugins

Coming soon. More stuff we need to discourage, because in some way it reduces tax revenues * high recycle households. * healthy people. * gardeners * wells and septic tanks * solar panels * bicyclers

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CA testing 55+mpge mi-based/VMT road-tax-fees aimed@ plugins

And don't forget plug-in Hybrids. They can go on out of state or in state, use gasoline (and pay gas tax), use electricity (and potentially be taxed via odometer also, resulting in doubly taxed, no taxed or any combination therein. Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay

Re: [EVDL] Heating system

Sure seems to me the answer is to use the waste heat off the electric motor. (there's plenty of it in normal driving). On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:52 PM, Larry Gales via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Some time ago I did some calculations showing that if you used gasoline for

Re: [EVDL] Heating system

Sure seems to me the answer is to use the waste heat off the electric motor. (there's plenty of it in normal driving). I'm not so sure. Sebring/Vanguard tried that in the Comuta-Cars (and maybe some Citicars). The ran forced air into the motor for cooling. Typical AC motor

Re: [EVDL] Gas tax is not working to cover the entire road maintenence budget

It's always a tough call to figure out how government spends it's money.   Every department would LOVE to have an infinite budget. I guess I've just grown unbelievably cynical about the government constantly crying they don't enough money then seeing first hand they waste it instead of trying

Re: [EVDL] Gas tax is not working to cover the entire road maintenence budget

To continue on the point I was making about rail infrastructure being hopelessly lost in the 19th century, here is an interesting read.    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/chicago-train-congestion-slows-whole-country.html?pagewanted=all_r=0 ___