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On 11/8/2013 8:00 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Perhaps you may not
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If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley
On 9 November 2013 17:12, meekerdb wrote:
> So why complain about the opium trade.
>
> As far as I am aware this is still prohibited, which causes the existence
of black markets.
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On 11/8/2013 8:00 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Perhaps you may not know that opiates were given to infants in the Victorian era to calm
them down -- and yes it did keep them quiet and happy (until they required another fix
of that special syrup... hehe).
But did they have a right to it?
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On 11/8/2013 2:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I read a paper arguing in that direction, showing that Jordanian have much
less tryanny thanks to the absence of oil.
That makes sense. It is easier to do that type of business with Tyrant, than
with elected
Demon-Haunted World
On 11/8/2013 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Ending the era of Prohibition will not mean kids will start smoking pot..
Hint they already are, and have been for a long time. Ending this dark era
of Prohibition will mean that the greatest illicit funding engine ever
devised
On 9 November 2013 14:48, wrote:
> If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act
> altruistic much more, if they get a reward, then in they get jack. A
> dictatorship of your own preference is suitable for many, but not for most.
> Plus, think about pure materiality. If
On 11/8/2013 5:48 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act altruistic much
more, if they get a reward, then in they get jack. A dictatorship of your own preference
is suitable for many, but not for most. Plus, think about pure material
On 11/8/2013 5:48 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
If you hold the Rational Optimist view aka Matt Ridley, people will act altruistic much
more, if they get a reward, then in they get jack. A dictatorship of your own preference
is suitable for many, but not for most. Plus, think about pure material
nment. Which would you choose?
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On 11/8/2013 2:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I read a paper arguing in that direction, showing that Jordanian have much less tryanny
thanks to the absence of oil.
That makes sense. It is easier to do that type of business with Tyrant, than with
elected people.
Sure, in political theory it's kno
On 11/8/2013 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Ending the era of Prohibition will not mean kids will start smoking pot Hint they
already are, and have been for a long time. Ending this dark era of Prohibition will
mean that the greatest illicit funding engine ever devised will shut down and
-- without your plucky Canadian tar sand
billionaires (some of whom are Texans by the way) deciding to invest
their profits in green technology -- as if they would.
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Hi Chris,
I can't agree more. If we look at the history of prohibition, it is always
either a political tools, or unfair economy, or a way for bandits
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On 08 Nov 2013, at 03:44, Chris de Morsella
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On 07 Nov 2013, at 03:32, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The prob
would.
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Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally
destroying vast
swaths of Alberta turning it into a poisoned chemical saturated
moonscape
On 07 Nov 2013, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
Human inventions are a human invention.
Bruno
As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of th
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Exactly. Already the techniques of social engineering are far more
advanced than they were even as recently as Goebbels time – and he
advanced the art of the Big Lie and
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On 11/7/2013 9:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>> So if F
On 11/7/2013 9:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>>So if Florida repeals it's law giving the right to "stand your ground", we will all be
living in a tyranny?
I am not sure I get the point you are trying to make? As far as it matter my opinion on
"stand your ground" laws and those who advocate
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On 11/7/2013 8:46 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
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On 11/7/2013 5:47 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
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On 11/6/2013 6:42
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On 07 Nov 2013, at 03:32, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The
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>>Not to be sarcastic, but pr
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On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans
likely invent more efficient engines, and also
fund the green technologies that you crave. Theres a reason why poor
nations do not do technology well.
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Those
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to
pay a lot better, is safer to go
On 11/7/2013 2:47 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:12 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of their
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:12 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>
> Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
>
>
> Human rights are a human invention.
>
> As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of their basic
> human rights society is o
On 11/6/2013 6:42 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Either all humans enjoy human rights or none do.
Human rights are a human invention.
As soon as a class of persons is created that are stripped of their basic human rights
society is on a slippery slope down into the dark hell of totalitarianis
deny
this, we deny our own humanity.
-Chris
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 1
Those plucky Canadians -- as you term them -- are criminally destroying vast
swaths of Alberta turning it into a poisoned chemical saturated moonscape as
well as sucking up vast amounts of water from other potential uses -- including
agriculture. Will the bitumen sweated out of that sand be wort
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM, wrote:
> Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to pay a
> lot better, is safer to go after, and is cleaner, carbon-wise. Unless you
> are buying into technological unemployment (robots, software) then we have
> to face the fact. BHO's Ke
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It sounds like you are reading straight form a shale play company press
release. You have been sucked up by the hype of America “the next Saudi
Arabia”. What about the massive amounts of water pollution
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Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to pay a
lot better, is safer to go after, and is cleaner, carbon-w
Not in China, not in Russia, the US and the UK, for sure.
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Whistleblowers are generally joe average types and they have had considerable
influence
In 1984, the Proles didn't care about Big Brother, and Big Brother, cared
nothing about the Proles, in the novel.
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In the near future who knows
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On 11/6/2013 4:23 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this
for th
ssage-
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On 7 November 2013 13:23, wrote:
BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this for
them. Piss them off and they can take it away. Thats leverage. To a pr
: LizR
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On 7 November 2013 13:19, wrote:
Liz i do not see joe average in any nation state in charge or influencing
anything. It seems to all sort of a plutocracy with some social benefits if
ones inc
On 07 Nov 2013, at 07:57, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 06 Nov
On 07 Nov 2013, at 07:28, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 7 November 2013 17
t: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of
empathy we call psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean
more empathy is better. Sometimes it's good to be hard hearted.
Should w
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich,
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On 11/6/2013 10:13 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
You mean there haven't been enough people wanting it yet? (There have been
a lot of protests and demos and so on, but I assume not enough as yet, in
your opinion?)
On 7 November 2013 20:25, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/6/2013 11:10 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> There have always been problems and every gene
On 7 November 2013 20:23, meekerdb wrote:
> But that just means you have to start over with new systems and try to
> make them last longer.
>
Well that was what I was saying about how in the past civilisations have
risen and fallen. That's how it used to happen - but having a (more or
less) glob
On 11/6/2013 11:10 PM, LizR wrote:
There have always been problems and every generation has had its
doomsayers. I
think the "monopolization of power" is hardly even a problem. Do you want
to run
the government? I certainly don't. I'm thankful there are people who want
the damn
On 11/6/2013 11:08 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 19:52, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
There is no "out of the system".
A Medieval Prince, and a Medieval peasant, would have agreed, yet we seem to have jumped
out of that system, at least in some parts of the world.
On 7 November 2013 20:06, meekerdb wrote:
> How about incidence of violence, c.f. Steven Pinker's "The Better Angels
> of Our Nature". Or the below-replacement birthrate throughout most of the
> OECD. How about the fall of communist totalitarianism in Russia and
> China. The peaceful revolutio
On 7 November 2013 19:52, meekerdb wrote:
>
> There is no "out of the system".
>
A Medieval Prince, and a Medieval peasant, would have agreed, yet we seem
to have jumped out of that system, at least in some parts of the world.
> I'm suggesting we look at the UP. How did systems get UP before
On 11/6/2013 10:13 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 11/6/2013 6
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Chris de Morsella wrote
On 11/6/2013 9:58 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 17:11, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The prob
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On 7 November 2013 17:11, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR
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On 11/6/2013 6:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From
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On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any
On 7 November 2013 17:11, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>>
>> The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will
>> become corrupted – through one path or an
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On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 14:39
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Modifying the DNA to fix psycopaths sounds promising, but going
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On 7 November 2013 15:57, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From: everything
On 11/6/2013 7:44 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will become
corrupted
– through one path or another corruption wil
On 11/6/2013 7:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 16:30, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of e
On 11/6/2013 6:57 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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Behalf Of *LizR
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On 7 November 2013
On 7 November 2013 16:39, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>
> The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will become
> corrupted – through one path or another corruption will become endemic and
> increasingly it will parasitize the system until
On 7 November 2013 16:30, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of empathy
>> we call psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean more empathy is
>> better. Some
On 11/6/2013 6:32 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
The problem of any system ever devised is that eventually it will become corrupted --
through one path or another corruption will become endemic and increasingly it will
parasitize the system until eventually the empty husk of the hollowed out soc
On 11/6/2013 6:18 PM, LizR wrote:
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of empathy we
call
psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean more empathy is better.
Sometimes
it's good
Whistleblowers are generally joe average types and they have had
considerable influence.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM, LizR wrote:
> On 7 November 2013 13:19, wrote:
>
>> Liz i do not see joe average in any nation state in charge or influencing
>> anything. It seems to all sort of a plutocr
Oh all right, I'll do it.
On 7 November 2013 16:18, Samiya Illias wrote:
> Modifying the DNA to fix psycopaths sounds promising, but going with the
> assumption that the world is controlled by psycopaths, what if they control
> the biotechnology and create Frankesteins instead? Do we need clearl
Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:18 PM
>>
>> *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>> There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme
On 7 November 2013 15:57, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>
>
> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LizR
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:18 PM
>
> *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re:
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On 7 November 2013 15:52, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 7 November 2013 15:52, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>
>
> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *meekerdb
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:39 PM
>
> *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject
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On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb wrote:
There's a continu
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On 11/6/2013 4:43 PM, LizR wrote:
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We
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On 7 November 2013 05:45, Chris de Morsella wrote:
There is not going to be any revolution here. not for a long while. The
owners of America have
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On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the m
On 7 November 2013 14:39, meekerdb wrote:
> There's a continuum of behavior which at the extreme absence of empathy we
> call psychopathy or sociopathy. But that doesn't mean more empathy is
> better. Sometimes it's good to be hard hearted. Should we have been nicer
> to the Neanderthals?
>
>
On 11/6/2013 4:43 PM, LizR wrote:
From: Chris de Morsella mailto:cdemorse...@yahoo.com>>
We -- all of us really and almost without break for all history -- suffer
under misrule by organized psychopaths who invariably control the vertices
of power and use it to ensure that they remain in
On 11/6/2013 4:23 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this for them.
Piss them off and they can take it away. Thats leverage. To a private company, you can
tell them to go screw themselves.
?? A private company isn't gonna give y
From: Chris de Morsella
We -- all of us really and almost without break for all history -- suffer
> under misrule by organized psychopaths who invariably control the vertices
> of power and use it to ensure that they remain in power, long term.
> But no matter -- MWI -- there has to be some reali
On 7 November 2013 13:23, wrote:
> BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this
> for them. Piss them off and they can take it away. Thats leverage. To a
> private company, you can tell them to go screw themselves.
>
Like Microsoft?
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On 7 November 2013 13:19, wrote:
> Liz i do not see joe average in any nation state in charge or influencing
> anything. It seems to all sort of a plutocracy with some social benefits
> if ones income is low.
>
> Well Jo Average has a certain influence. Various govt policies have been
changed be
Regardless, it is all mixed together worldwide, plutocracy for the
rich, the queue line for the workers. Move forward comrade.
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And also distinguish
internet can be better used for bringing people together to
problem solve?
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From: meekerdb
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 11/5/2013 5:21 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Just a few points:
The advantage of
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 6 November 2013 14:44, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
Marxists like BHO want people taken care of. They also want people
dependent on government servicesnso they, the pols, can have control
over the dumb serfs. And again, all the fashionable Marxist
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, Nov 5, 2013 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 6 November 2013 14:38, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
We could offer a 20 or 100 billion dollar prize
On 7 November 2013 05:45, Chris de Morsella wrote:
There is not going to be any revolution here… not for a long while. The
> owners of America have everything under control and the peasants believe
> they are a bunch of free birds.
>
That's the point. That's why it's more "Brave New World" than
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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 6 November 2013 17:10, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/5/2013 8:03 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
In the near future who knows… you may breath in some nano d
On 06 Nov 2013, at 17:25, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the money is stolen
money, and that's the case today.
There's nothing morally wrong with being rich, but it creates an
ethical problem. Being much wealthier t
On 7 November 2013 07:13, Richard Ruquist wrote:
> BS: In my view, the path to more democracy is less government, and more
> voting with money.
>
> That is definitely not the path to more democracy. It is, by definition,
the path to a plutocracy.
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BS: In my view, the path to more democracy is less government, and more
voting with money.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> I guess it's impossible to avoid these discussions. Maybe we should
> create everything-politics?
>
> I will reply with my apologies to Craig, with w
I guess it's impossible to avoid these discussions. Maybe we should
create everything-politics?
I will reply with my apologies to Craig, with whom I cut-off a
political discussion earlier.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> There i
control and the peasants believe
they are a bunch of free birds.
-Chris
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[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 6
On 11/6/2013 12:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is nothing wrong being rich, unless the money is stolen money, and that's the case
today.
There's nothing morally wrong with being rich, but it creates an ethical problem. Being
much wealthier than others bestows a lot of power. If there is
ekerdb
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 6:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
One needs to distinguish Fascism and Nazism. Fascism bound the
nation-state
into a super-organism. Nazism added a mystic racism about blood
(volk) and
soil, Christiani
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