Re: Reality

2008-12-22 Thread M.A.
, marty a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-l...@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Reality M.A

Re: Boltzmann Brains, consciousness and the arrow of time

2009-01-07 Thread M.A.
not copyable, are preparable (in the quantum prepare sense) What is the quantum prepare sense? Could someone please clarify the foregoing quote? m.a. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: The Amoeba's Secret - English Version started

2009-03-05 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I've often wondered why neither Dr. Deutsch nor Alan Forrester has commented on your theory of UDA and AUDA. I certainly would be interested in their views. A theory that has execised some of the best minds on this list for months on end certainly deserves serious

RE: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-07 Thread m.a.
Perhaps apropos. Common let's do de zombie rock All around de zombie block http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90682 -Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-l...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent:

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-28 Thread m.a.
Bruno, If there was never a physical world to which living creatures adapted after millions of years and which after further eons prompted the evolution of consciousness, do we conclude that comp and numbers alone created such a universe and then created people to experience

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-28 Thread m.a.
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Consciousness is information? Marty, On 28 May 2009, at 15:41, m.a. wrote: If there was never a physical world to which living creatures adapted after millions of years

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-29 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I feel very much in tune with your definition of science, so I'll trudge along with Kim as far as the UD allows me to follow the reasoning. m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 6:59 AM

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries

2009-06-02 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I appreciate the simplicity of the examples. My answers follow the questions.marty a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be = begin === 1) SET Informal

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-03 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I stopped half-way through because I'm not at all sure of my answers and would like to have them confirmed or corrected, if necessary, rather than go on giving wrong answers. marty a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To:

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-04 Thread m.a.
, On 04 Jun 2009, at 01:11, m.a. wrote: Bruno, I stopped half-way through because I'm not at all sure of my answers and would like to have them confirmed or corrected, if necessary, rather than go on giving wrong answers. marty a. No problem. Exercise 1

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-05 Thread m.a.
10:03 AM Subject: Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2 Hi Marty, On 05 Jun 2009, at 00:30, m.a. wrote: Bruno, I don't have dyslexia Good news. but my keyboard doesn't contain either the UNION symbol or the INTERSECTION symbol

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-06 Thread m.a.
Bruno, Before I leave on holiday, I am following your advice to make my own table of symbols. Let me ask first whether the smaller rectangles have a different reference from the larger ones as seen in your example below? - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To:

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-06 Thread m.a.
by a rectangle in the next two examples and preceded by a rectangle in the last three. In checking a table of logic notaion, I find that the relation such that is designated by a reversed capital E. Is this the symbol you are using? m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-06 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I've encountered some difficulty with the examples below. You say that in extension describes exhaustion or quasi-exhaustion. And you give the example: B = {3, 6, 9, 12, ... 99}. Then you define in intension with exactly the same type of set: Example: Let A be

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-06 Thread m.a.
On this date, you made the following correction: You cannot write D = 4*x ..., But you wrote D= 4*x in the exercise just above it. I don't get the distinction between your use of the equation and mine. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal Exercise 2: I will

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-06 Thread m.a.
Bruno, When I tried to copy the symbols from the URL cited below, I found that my email server was not able to reproproduce the intersection or the union symbol. See below: From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com ∅ ∪ A = I see two

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-06 Thread m.a.
Okay, so is it true to say that things written in EXTENSION are never in formula style but are translated into formulas when we put them into INTENSION form? You can see that my difficulty with math arises from an inability to master even the simplest definitions.marty a. -

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-07 Thread m.a.
: Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2 m.a. wrote: *Okay, so is it true to say that things written in EXTENSION are never in formula style but are translated into formulas when we put them into INTENSION form? You can see that my difficulty with math arises from an inability

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-07 Thread m.a.
Bruno, Yes, this seems very clear and will be helpful to refer back to if necessary. m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:33 AM Subject: Re: The seven step-Mathematical

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries 2

2009-06-07 Thread m.a.
*Bruno et. al., Good news! I have discovered that the math symbols copy faithfully here in my Thunderbird email.* *Henceforth, I will open all list letters here. Please refresh my memory for the following symbols:* * 1. The ***?** *is

Re: The seven step series

2009-06-30 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I'm still with you but I seriously wonder how far I can follow. I have the sort of mind that groups of logical statement and propositions cause to simply shut down. I am more than willing to accept that your proof is consistent and I assume that others on the list will point

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-01 Thread m.a.
, m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-01 Thread m.a.
Hi Bruno, I'm responding to the quiz (see below). What does high non booleanity mean in the context of para.2? - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:45 AM Subject: Re: The seven

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-02 Thread m.a.
Could you tell me if you understand and/or remember those definitions (where a and b denoting arbitrary sets): (a INTERSECTION b) = {x SUCH-THAT (x BELONGS-TO a) and (x BELONGS-TO b)} (a UNION b) = {x SUCH THAT (x BELONGS-TO a) or (x BELONGS-TO b)} Can you compute {1, 2, 7,

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-02 Thread m.a.
02, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: Re: The seven step series You are quick! On 02 Jul 2009, at 18:42, m.a. wrote: Could you tell me if you understand and/or remember those definitions (where a and b denoting arbitrary sets): (a INTERSECTION b) = {x SUCH-THAT (x BELONGS

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-03 Thread m.a.
New comments in italics. For example {1,2} INTERSECTION {2, 7} is equal to some set, actually the set {2}. OK?..No! Why not the sets {1,2,7} if INTERSECTION means BOTH?

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-04 Thread m.a.
Bruno, Can you provide definitions of belongs-to and included-in that distinguish them from union and intersection? Here we met a set of sets. The set of subsets of a set, can only be, of course, a set of sets. The set {2, 21, 14} is a set of numbers. The set { { }, {4,

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-06 Thread m.a.
My answers.m.a. Bruno, Can you provide definitions of belongs-to and included-in that distinguish them from union and intersection? Here we met a set of sets. The set of subsets of a set, can only be, of course, a set of sets. The set {2, 21, 14

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-06 Thread m.a.
Questions and comments interspersed below (in bold). - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:14 PM Subject: Re: The seven step series On 06 Jul 2009, at 16:12, m.a. wrote (in bold): My answers

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-07 Thread m.a.
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:30 AM Subject: Re: The seven step series On 07 Jul 2009, at 04:03, m.a. wrote: Questions and comments interspersed below (in bold) {3, 5} belongs-to {3, 5} True Not OK. The elements of {3, 5} are 3 and 5. {3, 5} is not an *element

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-07 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: The seven step series On 07 Jul 2009, at 16:18, m.a. wrote: Bruno, I'm not entirely sure of these answers, but I think I learn more

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-08 Thread m.a.
Second try: (power {1, 2, 3}) = ? {{ }, {1}, {2}, {3}, {1,2}, {2,3}, {1,2,3}} . And I give you a little subject research: if a set x has n elements, how many elements are in (power x)? How's this for a wild guess? I have a feeling that it's missing the accolades, but I have

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-08 Thread m.a.
Here's my third try. I'll continue working on the (power x) problem. m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: Re: The seven step series On 08 Jul 2009, at 15:43, m.a. wrote

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-14 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:40 AM Subject: Re: The seven step series Hi Kim, Marty, Johnathan, John, Mirek, and all... Bruno: May I advise you about an instance of English usage? The

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-16 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I have no idea how to even begin to answer these questions. Have you given us the definitions we need to do so?

Re: Dreams and Machines

2009-07-16 Thread m.a.
David, I appreciated this post because I'm more interested in the philosophical implications (which I'm hoping to find at the end of Bruno's UDA bridge to Valhalla) of these goings-on ...than in the mathematical ones. Best,

Re: Dreams and Machines

2009-07-17 Thread m.a.
of humor. Rereading some post, I realize some nuance in the tone does not go through mailings. Please indulge professional deformation of an old math teacher ... On 17 Jul 2009, at 03:12, m.a. wrote: David, I appreciated this post because I'm more interested

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-21 Thread m.a.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: The seven step series On 20 Jul 2009, at 15:34, m.a. wrote: And then we have seen that such cardinal was given by 2^n. You can see this directly by seeing that adding an element in a set, double the number of subset, due

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-21 Thread m.a.
of length n, make two copies, to one copy append a 0 and to the other copy append a 1. Brent m.a. wrote: Hi Bruno, I'm not clear on the sentence in bold below, especially the word correspondingly. The example of Mister X only confuses me more. Could you please give some

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-22 Thread m.a.
, m. (mathematically hopeless) a. Brent m.a. wrote: *Thanks Brent,* * Could you supply some illustrative examples

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-22 Thread m.a.
Going a step further... (see below) - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:57 PM Subject: Re: The seven step series m.a. wrote: Hi Brent, I really appreciate the help

Re: Seven Step Series

2009-07-22 Thread m.a.
Bruno, See desperate questions below. marty a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Dreams and

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-23 Thread m.a.
Hi Bruno, I asked Brent Meeker a question which he referred back to you. Will you be covering it? (see para in bold below) - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:49 PM

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-23 Thread m.a.
. So I beg you to always advance in baby steps with lots of space between statements. I want to assure you that I'm printing out all of your 7-step lessons and using them for study and reference. Thanks for your patience, m.a. -- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal

Re: Seven Step Series

2009-07-23 Thread m.a.
with different subjects. Thanks,marty a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Seven Step Series On 23 Jul 2009, at 05:44, m.a. wrote: if a is a number, usually, a^n

Re: Seven Step Series

2009-07-24 Thread m.a.
Bruno, You overlooked the question at the bottom of the page that I tried unsuccessfully to work out. Brent supplied the answer but what I was looking for were the steps that lead up to the answer. marty - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To:

Re: Seven Step Series

2009-07-25 Thread m.a.
Series On 23 Jul 2009, at 05:44, m.a. wrote: if a is a number, usually, a^n is the result of effectuating (a times a times a time a ... times a), with n occurences of a. For example: 2^3 = 2x2x2 = 8.I thought 2^3 meant (2*2)* (4*2)* (8*2)= 16

Re: Seven Step Series

2009-07-26 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I am indeed ready to pursue further and since we'll be covering both topics anyhow, I would prefer that you choose which would be the most natural next step for us. Also, I assume you have seen the following and I wondered if it tends to confirm UDA.

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-28 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I have searched my notes for an exposition of BIJECTION and found only one mention in an early email which promises to define it in a later lesson. Do you have a reference to that lesson or perhaps an instant explanation of it? Thanks,

Re: The seven step series

2009-08-21 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I'm terribly sorry to disappoint you and ashamed to admit that I'm throwing in the towel. This is an idiom used in professional boxing; when a coach decides that his fighter can't take anymore punishment, he ends the fight by throwing a towel into the ring. I simply don't have

Re: The seven step series

2009-08-22 Thread m.a.
Mirek, I think it must be a very effective method of teaching binary numbers. Perhaps I'll try it on my grandchildren. My four-year-old grandson calls VCR tapes rectangular DVD's. So he's probably ready for abstract thinking. Thanks for the lesson.

Re: Learning binary numbers

2009-08-24 Thread m.a.
a. - Original Message - From: Mirek Dobsicek m.dobsi...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: The seven step series m.a. wrote

Re: Learning binary numbers

2009-08-26 Thread m.a.
Hello Mirek, Let us recall that Socrates was famous for setting up straw men who usually agreed to every step of his proof and were finally forced by logic, against their previous judgments, to accept his conclusions. I would dearly love to see an unedited video of the

Re: The seven step series

2009-09-08 Thread m.a.
Bruno, Just to let you know that while I can't do the exercises, I am following as best I can. I think I understand that powersets of sets lead to ladders of larger and larger infinities and hope your exposition of how this results in the existence of universal machines will be

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-13 Thread m.a.
, m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-13 Thread m.a.
Thanks, This does indeed clarify the subject and puts it in a perspective that I feel that I can understand as much as possible without working through the intricacies of the proof. m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-15 Thread m.a.
A modest question. What's left of materialism (to even argue about) when orthodox theoretical physics itself sees the world in terms of virtual particles and one-dimensional strings? m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-15 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Flammarion peterdjo...@yahoo.com To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology On 15 Sep, 15:19, m.a. marty...@bellsouth.net wrote: A modest question

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-16 Thread m.a.
On 15 Sep, 15:19, m.a. marty...@bellsouth.net wrote: A modest question. What's left of materialism (to even argue about) when orthodox theoretical physics itself reduces the world to virtual particles and one-dimensional strings? m.a. What makes you think they are not material

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-16 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Flammarion peterdjo...@yahoo.com To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology On 16 Sep, 15:51, m.a. marty...@bellsouth.net wrote: the ocean

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-17 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Flammarion peterdjo...@yahoo.com To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology On 17 Sep, 14:12, m.a. marty...@bellsouth.net wrote: - Original Message

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-18 Thread m.a.
Bruno, I don't really remember what saying yes to the doctor entails. If it signifies a willingness to be cloned by computation, shouldn't we be saying yes to the Star Trek technician who controls the transporter? m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-20 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology m.a. wrote: - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-21 Thread m.a.
And when pressed as to exactly how the Heisenberg compensators worked, the spokesman replied, Very well, thank you. - Original Message - From: ronaldheld ronaldh...@gmail.com To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re:

Re: list archive

2009-09-21 Thread m.a.
Mirek, What's an MBOX and how do you send it? marty a. - Original Message - From: Miroslav Dobsicek m.dobsi...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 21,

Re: list archive

2009-09-22 Thread m.a.
/export emails in a given folder. While exporting, mbox file format is the preferred outcome, but in principle I can deal with other formats too. 3. step Send an email and attach the file FOR-MIREK. Cheers, mirek m.a. wrote: Mirek, What's an MBOX and how do you send

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-22 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Sep 2009, at 23:48, m.a. wrote: *And when pressed as to exactly

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-23 Thread m.a.
How you can remember all those technical details is astonishing, but thanks for the confirmation and the trip down memory lane. marty a. - Original Message - From: ronaldheld ronaldh...@gmail.com To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-23 Thread m.a.
Would anyone care to provide a gloss to all the capital letter codes being used in this thread? (e.g. CTM, PM, UD etc.) - Original Message - From: David Nyman david.ny...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: Yablo,

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-23 Thread m.a.
Again thanks, Hopefully, these notes plus David Nyman's will allow me to orient myself--at least roughly--in the sturm und drang of debate.m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: Yablo, Quine and Carnap on ontology

2009-09-23 Thread m.a.
/9/23 m.a. marty...@bellsouth.net: CTM = Computational Theory of Mind CT = Church Thesis PM = Primitive Matter (A)UDA = (Arithmetical) Universal Dovetailer Argument AR = Arithmetical Realism MR = Multiple Realisability WR = White Rabbit MGA = Movie Graph Argument Olympia = Tim Maudlin's anti-CTM

Re: Dreaming On

2009-09-24 Thread m.a.
And HP stands for??? - Original Message - From: David Nyman david.ny...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Dreaming On 2009/9/24 Flammarion peterdjo...@yahoo.com: Another point that has got rather lost here is

Re: The seven step series

2009-10-10 Thread m.a.
Or the barber is a special exception to the group designated as men and exists on a higher level of being. Therefore he can shave himself without transgressing the rule as stated in the premise. Isn't this one of Russell's paradoxes? marty a. - Original Message - From:

Re: The seven step series

2009-10-11 Thread m.a.
And didn't Russell decide that this type of paradox should be outlawed from allowable statements within the practice of logic? m.a. - Original Message - From: m.a. To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: The seven step

Re: How many universe in the Multiverse?

2009-10-12 Thread m.a.
What's the URL? - Original Message - From: ronaldheld ronaldh...@gmail.com To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: How many universe in the Multiverse? Arxiv:0910.1589v1 Any comments?

Re: request for glossary + announcement that the seventh step series thread will soon be resumed

2009-11-07 Thread m.a.
thread will soon be resumed On 07 Nov 2009, at 01:04, m.a. wrote: Bruno, Good to see you back! I have a question with reference to the experiment described in the first person indeterminacy paper. If, before the teleportation, the omniscient authority tells

Re: request for glossary + announcement that the seventh step series thread will soon be resumed

2009-11-08 Thread m.a.
I think that's the question Bruno's proof is designed to answer in the negative, a conclusion of which I have difficulty convincing myself.m.a. - Original Message - From: John Mikes To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:16 AM

Re: Blood Meridian

2009-12-05 Thread m.a.
Kelly, I read Blood Meridian recently and was utterly blown away. The endless abundance of vivid natural imagery couched in the most erudite language is only equaled by by the casual articulation of the most extreme violence imaginable. McCarthy's novel rises as far above western

Re: The seven step series (december 2009)

2009-12-08 Thread m.a.
Bruno, This is a stupid question but I'm hoping it contains the kernel of an idea. Since logic is based on a few common definitions, do you really need all these complicated steps and permutations to prove a theory? Why can't you show us what you mean in a handful of clear, simple,

Re: The seven step series (december 2009)

2009-12-10 Thread m.a.
unable to do. I assume that more easily demonstrable proofs will appear when predictions based on your ideas attain experimental reality e.g. teleportation, digital brain recording and so on. Till then I remain, without religious implications, a believer. m.a. - Original Message

Re: paper on view of reality

2009-12-19 Thread m.a.
As a tyro, I'm wondering whether this is just a summary of what physicists already know or a genuine conceptual breakthrough.marty a. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:18 AM, ronaldheld ronaldh...@gmail.com wrote: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0912/0912.3433.pdf any comments on

Re: UDA query

2010-01-12 Thread m.a.
Interesting how the repeated copying and recopying of emails ends up resembling the typography of modern poetry. m.a. I know. I'm trying to see what exactly is being assumed about

Re: on consciousness levels and ai

2010-01-19 Thread m.a.
People seem to be predisposed to accept AI programs as human(oid) if one can judge by reactions to Hal, Colossus, Robby, Marvin etc. m.a. - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:09 PM

Re: A parable.

2010-02-03 Thread m.a.
Autistic God What worlds but bipolar? ...No more questions! Look kid I am what I am. Get used to it. marty abramson - Original Message -

Re: On the computability of consciousness

2010-02-25 Thread m.a.
Bruno: Does the following relate at all to your theory of Comp? Each life is an equation. Each person is given parts of the equation with many variables on both sides of the equals sign. Most equations have only one solution which, however, can be solved in different ways: simple

Re: On the computability of consciousness

2010-02-26 Thread m.a.
Subject: Re: On the computability of consciousness Hi Marty, On 25 Feb 2010, at 15:03, m.a. wrote: Bruno: Does the following relate at all to your theory of Comp? I am not so sure, or I don't see how. I don't address the question of individual life. What I show is true for all

Re: Free will

2010-03-11 Thread m.a.
Bruno, ummm...I don't follow this answer. Does your reply affirm free will, deny it or take some other tact? m.a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Free will Marty

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-11 Thread m.a.
respect. marty a. - Original Message - From: m.a. To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Free will Bruno, ummm...I don't follow this answer. Does your reply affirm free will, deny it or take some other tact

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-11 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Brent Meeker To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 3/11/2010 1:26 PM, m.a. wrote: Bruno and John, The confusion is my fault. I

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-11 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Brent Meeker To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 3/11/2010 1:56 PM, m.a. wrote: - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker To: everything

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-12 Thread m.a.
what kind of a 'universe' is it? bootstrap, self reflecting autodidacta? Creator-made? John M On 3/11/10, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: On 3/11/2010 1:26 PM, m.a. wrote: Bruno and John, The confusion is my fault. I

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-12 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. Marty, I think the question, Do you believe in free will? could as easily be, Do you believe in Santa Claus or

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-12 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 12 Mar 2010, at 18:34, m.a. wrote: What sort of short cut are you talking about? I don't see any short cuts

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-13 Thread m.a.
: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 12 Mar 2010, at 21:53, m.a. wrote: I agree with you that quantum indeterminacy doesn't affect (free) will: Quantum mechanics is local

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-13 Thread m.a.
Please see questions below (in bold). - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 13 Mar 2010, at 16:00, m.a. wrote: Bruno, Thanks

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-15 Thread m.a.
, by making us live consequences of act we don't do. How can there be indeterminacy in comp when there are no material particles subject to Heisenberg's theory, only numbers? Is there an element of chance in the universal dovetailing of pure numbers? m.a. -- You received

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-16 Thread m.a.
- Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 16 Mar 2010, at 02:55, m.a. wrote: Bruno How can there be indeterminacy in comp when

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-17 Thread m.a.
identify and favor our normal histories? How do the lobian numbers affect the UD. (I think you've answered these questions before but not in ways that are clear to me. Please give it one last try.) m.a. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-18 Thread m.a.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry. On 17 Mar 2010, at 14:06, m.a. wrote: But is there a deliberate feedback (of any kind) between first person and UD? No. The UD can be seen as a set of elementary arithmetical truth, realizing

Re: Free will: Wrong entry.

2010-03-19 Thread m.a.
Bruno, Thanks for this great refresher course. marty a. - Original Message - From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:59 AM

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